Bros & Shows - Team Chelly or Team Huda? (Love Island ep 21-24 Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

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Multiple. Multiple, which had just ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, you're so wrong and all sorts of other things. but I am not discouraged, and I'll get into it. Don't you worry, people? I cannot fault you for it because I've been thinking about it. No one is talking about Tail Andrea except for you, and it's such a niche little thing. It's much like this podcast, and that's why we got so good.

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I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Villagoutes. What's up, dude? We're getting down to it. I think we only have about two weeks left to this. Villa Goots is not here to stay, unfortunately. Villa Goots has had a lot of appearances, though. Villa Goots might be our most recurring guest. it really could be oh god there's just so many episodes uh yeah i mean in like the grand scheme of

things when you look at the amount of episodes that there's been how many are left you could say we're really coming down to it but when you watch the show on tv we're not coming down to shit we're just simply not doing anything i don't know what's going on anymore it's gotten pretty wacky and obviously we left you guys on the big cliffhanger of operation g wagon and now we're seeing the fall out of that, followed by a dramatic recoupling. And then my favorite challenge, which is the heart rate challenge, not because before you perverts are like, oh, yeah, don't you like that? Because of how much it exposes, I think that's the most telling.

And I don't know, I also think it's flawed, but I'm excited to talk about that. So it could be flawed, but do you know how they've done it in the past? This is the first year that they keep changing things. I don't know why they keep changing it. I think the producers are just scrambling at this point. In the past, I haven't seen it in the past, but I feel like they didn't need to change anything. They didn't need, well, they did this year because they decided to have so many people. Like there are so many people in the villa right now.

It's insane. I would say too many. Usually, I think there's six, maybe seven couples total. Right now, we've got like nine. So they did have to do the coupling to make it a little bit faster, honestly. In the past, you would come out one by one. So the girls would go first. And each girl would come out individual.

person or by themselves right and then that's that makes it a lot easier to do shady things like if you did want to be with somebody else but you were in a couple with this person you could go over to the person that you wanted to couple up with so for instance in this season you would have and drina would come out and probably go right for pepe and she would be like the big finale she'd pull him aside and then it would be like oh what's going on here will pepe return the favor and then you actually get to see each person that like actually makes you light up and then that way there's still the chance of the person that you're in a couple with is the person that made your heart rate go up enough and then it's like oh that's kind of

sweet but now because they decided to couple everybody up you don't have that so you don't get to say oh taylor and clark they made each other's heart rates go up that's not how it works because they don't really have the opportunity to do that so it is kind of dumb i didn't really like they were doing that but i understand why they did it at the least yeah and you know as a first timer here like it's hard for me not to read all the people talking about you know the comparison and where this show is falling flat this season. I'm just going to say, as a first-time viewer, it's great. Like, I do see where there could be areas for improvement.

I see some spots, but that's also because we watch these things so analytically. But it's entertaining. I enjoy it. I like the cast. I think that some of the things that they've done are clearly spontaneously trying to write the direction of the show. And some of them work to think other ones have not. but overall like it's a great show like it's very enjoyable i get it i understand why everyone's so crazy about it yeah it's a great show to really lock in on and i mean you're watching it five

times a week so it's it's impossible to not just be captivated by it but obviously you know for a lot of reasons you can't really compare the casts you can't say oh she's trying to have the moment like lea had last year or look at this he's just trying to be like cordel it's like that's a little impossible to do i think that's a little unfair i do think that the reason for the shortcomings of this year while it's still good are really the cast i think it's 80% cast 20% production the production is really just a byproduct of the cast being so safe trying to play it so safe and really being aware of what's going on and how the viewers are going to look at them and how they're going to be you know still in the running for the 100k at the end and then obviously

you know there's a lot of things going on with our ace and shelly scamming have they been dating like there's too many things going on with the cast specifically that i almost feel bad blaming production because they don't really know what to do. Like, they're just trying to throw things out there. And that's really what this Nicolandria thing is all about. They're like, here, God, damn, like, shut up. Like, have it. See what happens.

And then nothing comes of it. So it is kind of tough. It puts them in a really tough spot to continue to make a really good show. So you can tell that they're just trying to make it up as we go along, but also trying to stick to the original format that works so well. It's, I don't know if it's going to work. But, I mean, if last night's episode is any indication, I think they're getting to a point.

where it's no longer friend island so at least we're stepping on some toes which i think is a little too little too late but at least it's it's giving us a little bit something more to talk about yeah and that seems to be the general consensus of like long time fans of the show is that it's too copacetic in now so there's not enough drama people are afraid to to do anything extra we see why in this most recent episode which i'm stoked to talk about that as well but we need more drama we need more people that are going for someone else no one's that's my big thing i'm very particular about the rules of this game and i think that the rules are indicative of how you should act if you're not closed off your fair game in my opinion i don't care how close you are with your other

person if you're not close enough to say hey no one talked to us anymore then to me you're fair game so people getting up in arms about certain things i think is ridiculous obviously you're going to feel some type of way if your girl's doing stuff with your man. That's, that's obvious. But at the same time, you can't get that pissed off when you're still open because the game is, if you're open, you're exploring connections. You can't get mad at people for exploring connections if you're not closed up. Yeah, I agree. The general format should have been most of the OGs have just been paired off since day two. And that's the problem. Yes. You have people like Austin who like, we don't really care about Austin. He's a good comedic relief here and there. Like,

when he did the Spider-Man kiss during the challenge on Thursday night. That was really funny. He's always good for a moment like that. But you're not rooting for Austin to win. You might root for Austin to win because you hate everybody else. And you're like, fuck it. I don't care. We're going to go score Sheriff and just get Austin to win.

That's fine by me. But everybody else, the people that were really talking about the most with Ace and Shelley, Taylor and Alondria, Nick and Sierra, like they've been coupled up since day two. And yet they're still bitching about other people not exploring. You guys aren't exploring. So that doesn't make any sense. And the time for the messiness. time for, you know, the musical chairs, the ring around the rosy, whatever you want to call

it, is supposed to happen in that first week, second week. And they didn't do any of that. They've just been closed off since then, but they're not actually closing off. And have more respect for them if they closed off. And honestly, in the case of Nick, when he comes back from Casa Amor, close off, like, you don't want to deal with this. I don't get it. I'm tired of dealing with it.

So that stuff does really, like, wear thin on me. But now we're like, okay, I guess, you know, there's some drama coming in because everybody's pretty much closed off but they're still playing the game and they don't want to look like they're closed off they don't want to do it too soon they don't want to be the first one whatever you want to say now they're getting their feelings hurt because other people are playing the game so it's kind of funny to watch that I just don't know if we have enough time to work through all of this and then come out to the other side because I'm okay if they're all kind of like coupled up at this point because then when something pops up it's like oh okay you're

I haven't seen that in a couple of weeks but we haven't seen shit so that's the problem and that's really what we're kind of working with right now so hopefully you know This week is probably going to be the biggest week for this show when it comes down to it because they're going to have, I would imagine the tweet challenge or if they're going to do a TikTok challenge, which I saw today, which is really funny. If they show, if they show TikToks instead of the tweets, that would be great because they're all Gen Ziers anyway. But just show them the edits that people are making when it comes to like Ace being a snake

and Nick being an asshole and him having like henchmen and all of those things. That'll shake them. That'll shake them to their core. Show the, the Nicolandria stuff. Fine. That's great. We're going to get into that anyway. Show all of those things.

things because we really need a wild ride by the way not not them together the aftermath is is fucking insane sorry yeah i don't i still don't really know what to think about that but yeah i do think that this week is very critical for that especially you know a lot of us here in america we're going on holiday this week we've got the holiday at the end of the week we're going to be watching but we're not going to be as engaged so if you keep us engaged through this that's going to be very telling i think they're okay and i know it's my first run through and i hear what you're saying but I think I have the benefit of being a first-timer, so I'm blissfully ignorant.

But I think that the key to making this, like, quote-unquote, successful, however you want to say it, they don't need to have any filler episodes from here on out because we've had that. There's 25 episodes already, so obviously you have to throw some fluff in there. They do have enough time if they just buckle down and start making people make difficult decisions every single episode.

And then I feel like we're there. I feel like you're starting because of how. People, they have to. You're going to have to weed out at least two more couples. So two guys, two girls are going to have to go. I would say by the end of the week, like we're going to have to make that decision right now so that we can actually focus on what really matters.

So they do have this week to do that. If we're still moving around with 18 people in the villa, this time next week, then what are we doing? I just don't understand how we're going to keep doing it. Yeah. And I think what you've seen by all of these wacky moves, made in the last week. I think you've seen proof that it's working somewhat with Endrina coming in and saying,

oh, I'm actually interested in Pepe. I think she feels more emboldened now to maybe take that step forward. I think the newbies that they brought in, I was very critical of them at first. I think the dudes are holding up. I think that they're actually causing some, like a stir. And I think the ladies that came in, Coco, we're spoiling because we're not at this part yet. And sorry, everyone. And Coco, I wish, stayed.

I think that she should have been either an OG or she should have been one of the first bombshells. I agree. She was great. She had a really good personality. She seemed like she knew what she was doing. And she was beautiful. And how many times did we look at different bombshells and be like, what are we doing? Yeah.

Where did you find this guy? Those happened a lot. So I do think that she got the shit end of the stick. And I hope, and they've done this before where they do actually bring people back, like I think Robb last year, the year before he was a bombshell. And he just came in like way too late and didn't really vibe with anybody. They brought him back and he ended up being an OJ. So they can do that again with somebody like Coco. She seemed promising.

Hopefully she gets that nod for next year because I do think that her time of the villa was a little short-lived. But, you know, bear with us because we're going to work through. We've got Thursday nights episode, Friday night's episode and Sunday night's episode. Obviously, as you know, we do spend more time on the most recent episode and we probably should. But we're going to work through the recoupling. We're going to work through the end of Casa more and the heart rate challenge, of course. And we're not going to leave a stone unturned. That's the one thing with us, right?

Well, we might. There's a lot of content. There's a lot of stones. What do we expect to do? Well, I want to start with, I mean, I want to start for 15 minutes in, but I want to go to the first challenge of, I mean, obviously, should we just tackle Nicolandria first, get that out of the way? Let's just get it out of the way, yeah. Let's do it as quickly as they did it. Yeah. So obviously they drive off in the car. We get the next episode opening up with them. They have like a private nice dinner set up for just the two of them. And they sit there and talk and they both say exactly what you think they're going to say. It's like, well, we really haven't explored this. So like should we give it a whirl? Sure, guys. Sure. And this is what I said because I'm obviously Tay Landria for life. And now that I've made such a declaration, I have to die on this hill. There is no going back because I'm too stubborn.

yeah i almost feel bad i can't even i can't even really go after you for this anymore i did originally but anymore i'm like oh yeah it's just gonna you're not gonna help you you're gonna have to watch me die a slow painful death and it is what it is because i'm like i said far too stubborn to quit but when i saw these two together i actually thought there was a little chemistry at the dinner and i was actually open to the idea i didn't think that it would pan out i never did and that's like earlier before when everyone was clamoring for Nicolandria, Nicolandria, it's all over socials. It never struck me as like viable because they just didn't seem to have that.

I know that in the challenges, they always pick each other, but it seems like a flirty friendship. And that's what it always seemed like to me. And that is proof positive of what you get because they get that moment in soul ties where Nick is like, hey, should we try this out out of a challenge and just see how we feel. The minute they got done kissing, I was like, yeah, there's nothing here. like yeah there there's just nothing romantic there and the sit down dinner that they had on Thursday nights episode there's no other way to look at it it looked scripted to me it was scripted they were reading off of their phones they were getting direction from producers

before they even got there whatever it may have been obviously they're going to choose to couple up so they can get back to the villa how funny happy no you know what no I don't think I can handle it anymore one of them says no and the other one's like really trying to get back that would be funny that would be funny but I think they fumbled this from a production standpoint, why are we doing, like, they should have come back during the recoupling. And they obviously, they're in a couple, so it's fine, they're safe, but have them walk in at the end so that everybody can be shocked.

That's what you said. You said we need like three episodes with, or two episodes without them. And then it would have. That's all we needed. Or better yet, have them come in the heart rate challenge. That would get everybody's heart rate going. So especially if you're going to do it as a couple, that would be great. So the fact that they ended up just going right back to the bill.

after that fake conversation i'm like okay they sneak into the bedroom and go to bed and nobody wakes up yeah that seemed a little suspect as well and then obviously you know they're all shocked in the morning and they're like well what's going on it's been like eight hours since they've been gone like there was not enough time for them to sit on it and obviously the guys are the only ones that are like oh shit but obviously you have the clark effect where clark is now looking she just got out of bed with taylor she's why is a landry here like what are we doing here that was that that that part was very funny, but I still do think again, they should have just kept them at least

until the recoupling, if not the heart rate challenge. That would have made so much more sense. If they're already assured to stay anyway, like you can get rid of the Casa more people that just didn't pan out. Like send JD packing Vata, whoever, whoever, get them all out of there. Nobody really wanted to couple with them anyway. J.D. is a dwee.

We'll talk about that in a second. But yeah, when it comes to the two of them, hold on to them. Where's the element of surprise there? There was no reason. There was no reason to roll them out that fast. It was so quick. It was really just the producers really wanted people to be talking about it because it was quite legitimately a here, damn, response to everybody on Twitter. Like here.

You guys have been talking about this the whole time. We worked to make sure that the two of them were voted off. Here you go. What do you guys think about this? We're going to see how it goes. It lasted half an episode. It lasted the beginning of an episode. And that's the other part is like if you want to nurture this.

Nicolandria thing because you've seen everyone talking about it, send them to a resort together for three days and film them there alone or like a private villa where it's just those two all day for two or three days. And then maybe you get something sparked there. I don't think so, but maybe. And it's also, we get to watch them so they're not absent from the screen, but you get to have that payoff of them coming back in a big moment. And that might have changed everything. Simons celebrates freedom of expression with a daily ritual of getting dressed. Fashion's power lies in its endless possibilities.

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You know, if Halandria walks in at the recoupling and Taylor sees her for the first time after thinking she got whacked, maybe that changes that yeah let him get like comfortable let him get safe feel safe in his new relationship with Clark even though you know if you're looking at any of the polls they're all the way at the bottom they're going to get voted off

very quickly if we ever do get a chance to vote so let them feel like they're safe and comfy and then in walks Landria then that gives Taylor a lifeline if he's starting to think and he's talking to Ace and talking to whoever and they're like yeah I don't know you guys seem okay but like what do you think's going to happen is she Landria

then he starts thinking about it bam there she goes so yeah the timing of it just didn't really work for me but whatever i mean they did what they did and the thing about this show every time that things happen i definitely get mad in the moment i'm like fuck why are we doing this this is so stupid short term memory show within 15 to 20 minutes i'm over it and i'm like you know what fine whatever this is how we're going to be and i've never been like that with any show so that's very odd i think it's the amount of episodes it forces you to get over things quickly there's probably hypnosis going on in the commercial breaks when it comes back.

Like, that sounds is probably like, hey, forget everything you just saw. Beanie, you got it. Thanks, Love Island. But, but yeah, so obviously, you know, we can just kind of run through this very quickly because it does last the entire episode, but they smooch. Nick wants to see if there's anything there. He's talking to Ace. He's talking to Taylor.

He's talking about, you know, saying all the right things. Like, I'm going to explore. While, obviously. Wild that he talked to Taylor about it, by the way. Yeah. But even in that moment, and I, look, I'm not, this isn't about you. Taylor didn't care. He's like, oh, okay.

He was more upset that she was there. He was like, I thought, he didn't know she was gone, but, you know, at the same time, he's like, shit, she got voted off. Shit, she's back. So in the back of his mind, he's probably thinking, why the hell they bring her back? If she got voted off at Casa, more, I could have just been living at this point. Yeah, he wouldn't have lasted that long. And I want to make sure people don't think I'm just dumb and blind. Like, I'm aware and I see things, like the fact that the next morning when they all thought that they were gone, Taylor goes and hugs Nick and just.

stiff arms a lander. Like, I see these things, guys, but I am too far up this hill now. So just let me live. Not only that, but the other comment that he made to her when she was sitting at the bar just kind of chatting and she was talking about like, yeah, maybe I'm just not, or, you know, I guess they're just cooler than I am. He goes over, he goes, maybe they just never thought that you were cool. It's like, why are you saying things?

Why are you talking to her like that? Like, it didn't make any sense. And you could see even in that moment talking to Nick, it's almost relief. Like, oh, shit. all right cool you guys aren't just coming in here like buddy buddy and obviously they do have to explore because that's you know part of the contracts that they signed in blood the night before you guys have to explore this couple if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out but you guys got to try at least for 24 hours so he comes in and you can see taylor like all right cool you're

going to explore a landria i'm going to go hang out with car fine whatever i'll do that and it takes them like a full day and a half to even pull her for a chat yeah and you know it was short-lived they both agree this ain't it we're good friends high five whatever and that's fine like i again they could have rolled this out differently but we can't just keep saying what we think that was a nice moment i think i i believed that part i didn't believe any of the beginnings of this but when they sat down and started talking about how they're just better friends i'm like i believe that yeah i truly believe there's nothing there i agree with you but let's get to the uh the smooching challenge of what was the Casa versus Villa, and everyone has to, like, kiss their new partner and see what their

chemistry is like, I didn't feel a lot of chemistry throughout. And that's kind of, you know, proof of what happens to the recoupling. Yeah. But, yeah, nothing really clicked for me in that moment. And who won, Casa won? No, Villa one. Villa one, it's so inconsequential. There's nothing on the line.

matter but like the only thing that i want to talk about from it genuinely is the hudda conversation afterwards with jd and hey tip of the cap high five the hudda for handling it the way that she handled it jd comes in and he's like yeah you're just way you try to be too dominant like i'm dominant and like that's why we lost i'm like you goofy motherfucker like one no he like He talked through his teeth. It was driving me insane. He talks like this. Like, I just, you're too dominant, but I'm more dominant. Dude, that's actually what his voice sounds like.

So maybe that's all you have to do to sound like Jay. This is Jay. Just talk like you're an idiot with your teeth out. That's pretty good. Thanks. Appreciate it. But it was dumb. It was just a dumb conversation.

He's blaming her for the loss. If you go back and watch their interaction during that thing, he wasn't doing anything. She took the reins and tried to put on a show. I had no issue with Hoda trying to do her thing. And then after the fact, she's trying to, obviously, she's desperate for a connection. So she's trying to nurture that connection with J.D. However she can. And she just went in for a normal conversation.

And that dude's like, yeah, you fucked everything up because you're bad at this. It's like, what? Yeah. And they never really had much compatibility. J.D. was there with Huda. Huda was there with J.D. Simply just out of necessity. They needed to pair up with somebody.

Like there was never any romantic chemistry at all. between the two of them that conversation started off just dry as a bone oh yeah you could see hoda at first i it seemed like she was pretty serious i even tried to think that like jd's first comment it seemed like he was trying to joke but he was doing it in such a mean way that it was like what the fuck like why would you think that she would take that and like find any humor in it i thought and then he's just double tripled i that's what i thought too i thought it was like it was like a mean joke flirt and then she responded the way that she did and he was like fuck all right

well I'm just going to go all in with this and just blame her and say that she's just trying to be dominant that's why we lost it's like first off who cares like I'm sorry did you guys lose your rations of food for the week because you lost this kissing comment wait a minute we might have something there that's a great idea you guys don't get to drink your two ounces of wine this week

because you lost like that's something but there's never been any chemistry in there and I'm actually yeah I'm with you the way that hooda handled that conversation and I think This is more of a, more of a product of her really not being into him. Because if Jeremiah had this conversation with Huda, she would have crashed the fuck out. But instead, it's J.D. And she doesn't really feel anything about him.

So she's able to like compartmentalize, just say that he's an asshole and walk away. And then that's the end of J.D. And there will never be a sequel. That is it. And we're going to walk away. And everyone's like, what the fuck are you doing, J.D? Like what are you? What are you trying to do?

You just ruined your chance on the show. Yeah. I mean, for nothing else. But what it does allow is for Huda to explore some other connections. And we're obviously going to mix and match some episodes here. We're not going to be chronological the whole time. I like her and Chris. I'm not going to lie.

That was a, to me, that was a conversation that Shelley and Huda had. And then Chris got brought in towards the end. I don't believe that that was organic. I don't think that, I mean, I could see Huda obviously going to a different option. Like, oh, shit. Like, J.D. is not going to work out. Let me see what's got. going on goes to shelly first shelly's you know still playing up the whole like wow i'm really in

between these two guys that's when hoda brings up that she's talking to chris and i think a light bulb goes off in shelly's head oh there's going to be a recoupling after all of this obviously we're going to have to they know like skim the fat get rid of everybody who's not really coupled up try to couple up with whoever we can and just keep people in the villa this is a good opportunity to keep chris here if nothing else just for the show because i i'm still not convinced the Shelley and Ace are doing everything for the show. So I do think this was a slip in there. That's a conversation of if it comes down to it, I'm going to pick Ace.

You can pick Chris. And then Chris gets brought into the conversation like, hey, she is leaning towards Ace. So if it comes down to it, you and I should probably be coupling up just to do that. And that's kind of how it works out for the recoupling the next night, where you can see that Chris is obviously, you only get one shot at this. Why would he write Hooded down when he's been spending so much time with Shelley? and we saw one little conversation with Huda where he's like, yeah, I kind of like you.

I'd like to explore that. Like, that's not enough for me to be like, oh, he's clearly going to write down Huda's name. Clearly, why else would he? Like, no, all of that kind of played out. That's cast production. That's not even real production. That's the cast is like, oh, yeah, we can keep Chris on.

He's somewhat of a good match for Huda. We'll see how that goes. That's not going to fucking work out. But we'll see how it goes. And then at the very least, Chris gets to say in the villa, we can kind of continue to explore this love triangle and throw me an ace into the middle of it and see how this goes.

So it is more of a, yeah, let's save him and then we can get rid of everybody else who's just not really working. I'm okay with saving him, though. I like him. I like Chris a lot. Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind that they're doing what they have to do

to keep the best people around because a lot of the CASA people on both sides are just duds, bro. Like big, big duds. But let's go to Taylor and Clark and Alandria and this whole thing. And again, I'm going to break this down from a reasonable standpoint. I'm not just going to be a dumb ass about the whole thing.

Good for you. Well, I don't want people to think I'm stupid on two sides of this thing. Like, I am logical. I just, whatever, you get it. So the minute that Alandria gets back, I'm like, okay, not looking great. You can tell that he's got more of a connection with Clark, which is very obvious. My favorite moment of all three episodes that were recapping, though, is who said it somebody was talking about Clark and one of the newbies saying that she's so happy

with Taylor and she's like yeah she just seems so giddy the last word I would use to describe Clark is giddy because she's very low key very mellow doesn't say a lot and she goes she's just really giddy and it goes over to Taylor and Clark and he's like yeah it's like so are you happy she's like, I'm really happy. I'm super excited. And it doesn't smile. Like, she's getting your shit right now. It is funny, too, because I think what they're getting at is those moments, those

scenes where the girls are all kind of like getting ready and they're doing their makeup. And the girls actually have girl talk. Clark shows a little bit more personality. But when it comes to Taylor, and this, again, this could just be because of the love triangle situation because now Alandri is in the house, it's weird. Even when they're in the makeup room and they're talking, Elandria walks in, everybody just stops talking. It's just, it's got to be a tough situation.

And I think the producers did this by throwing an OG back into the villa with a bunch of girls who were just trying to figure out how they're going to make it on the show. It's like, oh, fuck, great. Now we've got you. But O'Lander handles it really well. She handles everything very well, except for, you know, still pining over Taylor. It's fucking dumb. The effort that she cranked this shit up to a hundred, dude.

She was, but that's what pissed me off even more on the Taylor side of it. It's like, you have this woman. proclaiming her love to you you've had a connection for three weeks plus now at least be more into the conversations when you're talking to her like that was my biggest he's already moved on no if the photo book pictures that she put in your drawer didn't get you going and get you to a point we're like fuck all right like you should be nick in episode like four or five when he's trying to decide between beldash and sierra and he's like fuck 80 20 37 you should be bouncing back and forth everybody should be doing these percentages at this point and he's not he's just simply not he's

he's so fine he's good with he's good with taylor with clark rather and you can tell that like it's just playing it up a little bit more to say like all right cool we're going to do this and i don't even really fault elandria at this point because she'd been in casa for a little while she hadn't seen taylor now she's back she has to explore with nick that's done almost immediately then obviously she's going to go back to taylor she doesn't have her girls there to say why are we still doing this which they still have any other connections by the way yeah she doesn't yeah she doesn't and why would she i mean the other guys in the house are also the people from the villa so like she doesn't have a connection with them she's going to need a bombshell in the next like episode or two or she's

going to have to end up going home because taylor's not going to pick her that's just kind of the point that we're at right now but i i don't falter while we're doing all of this for her still trying because she's like all right this is new but like when we left me and taylor we're good now we're not let me try to win them back real quick fine but once the girl come back from Casa and they all start talking to her. They need to sit her down and say, what are we doing? You got to move on, girl. It isn't going to work.

You're only going to get stuck. And then you're going to end up going home for real this time. So like move on. So hopefully they do have that conversation. They didn't last night, but hopefully they have that conversation moving forward and try to get her off of this because it's just not going to work. Well, I mean, that remains to be seen. There's a lot of, a lot of game left, you know.

I'll get to, I'll do the other part of my theory at some point. I like to say it towards the end. Well, I need to for my own sanity. Oh, man. Yeah, but what about the sanity of the people that listen to us? If they've been listening to us for this long, then they're kind of nuts too. That's how I like to think about it. They get it.

Our audience gets it. Every time they leave comments and questions, it makes me more and more confident that they get it. We built a lovely little community here of slightly crazy people. And I love that for us. but the whole thing with the recoupling comes around that was the other part and this is my point to like filler episodes that episode took so damn long dude it was an hour and 34 minutes long yeah all we were doing was like watching potential connections but we didn't really explore anything new it was more elandria talking to people and trying to figure out how she's going to navigate watching taylor

move around with clark and and try to avoid alandria and that's pretty much it you didn't get a whole lot else it was really it was that and then it was just juxtaposing the two scenes of nick and elandria talking and kissing in the one night in soul ties and then bop it over to sierra and elan who were sitting there talking about their connection and how sierra was just completely shutting them down so yeah those are the things that we saw otherwise you're right the recoupling took like 45 minutes yeah because we had to do the big reveal here are the people coming out it's like okay ariana tries to play it up as much as possible like one of the boys is going to go home you can see it on all their faces

who's who went home who went home oh fuck it was nick oh no sierra starts to cry elan thinks that maybe he has a chance here she's gonna make me probably they never had a chance now but it all just boils down to nothing because eventually everybody comes out and that took about 25 minutes so that that is the dramatic pauses do need to uh we need to speed those bad boys up maybe i agree maybe maybe we start doing it manually i don't know but i'm gonna have to start doing something well and i'm like oh fuck did i miss anything You did? No, I did.

I get worried that I'm going to miss a comment or, you know, not see something that's like pivotal to what's going on in the villa. That's, you know. It's really for like a scene like this, it's all about who the original connection was. So like for certain people, it just simply doesn't matter. Like when JT and Vanna walked out, they just pan over to Iris and Iris is like, okay, like whatever. Yeah, whatever. And we had something before. I've got nothing with this guy next to me, Zach, uh, I'd like to go.

back to TJ, maybe, we'll see. TJ's talking about it. There's just nothing there. Like, that's not really going to interest me. But yeah, you're right. Skipping through it, you can, but it is a dangerous game. Yeah, it's a sketchy game to play. But at the recoupling, I still firmly believe that TJ and Iris are together out of necessity.

I don't, I don't get a lot of chemistry there, even when they're, like, rolling around and so. I like Iris a lot. TJ's a fucking dud. T.J. He stinks. That dude's brutal. Like, I don't know. I should not be here.

No. And I like Iris. Iris is great. Questionable motives in the most recent episode. That was bizarre. But I get what. Nah, we'll talk about it. But those two, I feel like, you know, they, there's something there.

Maybe they're just like relatively attracted to each other. So it's like, all, we're going to push this and see where it goes. But the way that they did the recoupling was a bit of a bit of like an embarrassment kink. like hey we're going to have both you stand up here and then we're going to show who actually goes and then you have to go sit over on the bleachers over there they should have put a chair up on the stage and be like and you sit in the cuff chair absolutely got to incorporate the cup chair as much as possible but the big thing for me during the recoupling and obviously you know the big thing at the very end is just taylor and who's he going to pick in the beginning amaya has two men standing up there for what a time to be in amaya papaya stand she finally comes full circle she's been standing alone for so long long now she's got two guys coming after why the fuck jd's dumb asses up there i don't know i don't know what you're thinking buddy you're not going to win absolutely not and you shouldn't win and there's something and i never thought i would say this because zach with a sea drove me nuts the first episode or two is in these two are on this same bizarre wavelength i don't

know how because they're not alike but they are so very alike you know what i'm I mean, Zach with the K, you mean, not. Zach with the K. Yeah, sorry, Zach with the C's gone, right? No, Zach with the K, he seems genuine. Like a lot of people are making edits. I didn't think he did seem genuine, but now I do. That's my, yeah, when he started telling that story about, like, the cat that went missing.

And he's like, I just hope, like, that's such an Amaya story. I was like, whoa, that's something that's going to resonate with her the most. So the two of them, they just seem like they're weirdly on the same wavelength. But it is also really nice to see because Amaya has been the most genuine person in the bill of the entire time. She has always shown exactly how she feels. She's always said exactly how she feels. And most people don't like that. Most people that's turnoff for. But Zach seems to take it in stride and even support her in those moments, which is just nice to see because you get to see the two of them in a confessional, you know, after the heart rate challenge. They're all smiles. They're all having a

great time. We've seen her in confessionals, like a couple confessional, whether it was with Ace or Austin. The other, the guy in that situation is like, ugh, really? Like, why are you so excited? And Zach is matching her excitement. So it's just nice. to see and right now number one without a doubt in my mind so they should win right now if they if we had to decide if they'd win well especially because of the journey we've seen her go on to get to that point and i feel like she needed two guys up there to get her mojo back after ace crushed it like we needed that kind of confidence so that she can be her best self and not explain to people every time like this is what i like to do hopefully doesn't rub me the wrong way you don't owe them

that explanation so i'm glad that we're past that stage she can get back to being just lovely entertaining a Maya Papaya. But, yeah, I weirdly like Zach with a K now. I did not earlier, but he's grown on me for sure. I just, I never disliked him. I just couldn't understand what he was saying. He was talking too fast, and that Manchester accent is just, it's impossible. I 100% believe that Peacock fixed their captions because of it.

For that. Thank God. I was so excited when I texted you. I know. I was too. Huge update. And you're like, what? I'm not watching yet.

I'm going to turn it on a little bit, what? And I'm like, it's just the subtitles. You're like, oh, okay, good. All right. Yeah, sweet, by the way, awesome. Yeah, that's great. But with this recoupling, you also, like I said, you get the big moment of obviously Taylor and Elandria and he picks Clark, which is not, no one's really surprised by that.

You know, it's quite obvious. They get more of a connection with her. Just watching, like, lay on her when they're talking. And it's just more romantic, it seems. But Amaya, once again, voice the people. She's like, Taylor, like, what the fuck? But that's the thing. like all of us watching at home were like yeah i get it and like if you don't like amaya i

understand how you could be in that moment like shut up like seriously you can't do that like taylor has moved on we all see it they didn't know they were in casa the whole time they have no idea that he has a connection with this girl so they're like what is going on why are we doing this it's us at home we're like good we need to shake up i'm sorry i don't support taylor and clark because i think they're boring and i don't really like them that much but at the same time we do need a shakeup. And maybe it's either Alandria just straight up going home or it's at least her looking at Taylor and being like, okay, you're not my guy.

I'm going to move on and find somebody else. That's what we need the most. I'm so tired of just being the same couples over and over. Will they, won't they? Will they won't they? You still will, but none of you are closed off yet. So like I don't understand why we're still doing the song of dance. I don't either.

And that's why I said in the beginning of the episode, if you're not closed off, you're fair game. You can't get all up in arms about this whole thing. thing for people playing the game. And that leads to what I've been waiting to talk about. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.

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And Ilan is just like, this would be tough. This is just be tough to move back. Alon, I hate. I fucking hate him. He's got a, he, like, I don't understand how you're still going to do what you did in the Heart Rate Challenger, the second episode, looking back and going after Sierra still, making her another pancake. Like, oh, you know, I just did this every day and cost some more. I got to do it again. Like, dude, you got to move on.

Yeah, you look like a bitch. Nick's not going to do himself any favors because he's bitching about it and he's just annoying. But if you're a lot, I'm like, you got saved and you're in the villa because they save him and Elandria. And the four that go home, let's try to run through these. It's JD and Vana. I remember.

J.D., Vana's Zach with a C. And I can't remember who the fourth one was. I've been bracking my brain. Coco. Oh, Coco. Right. Yeah. That's the problem.

So, yeah, Ace doesn't select Coco. He select Shelly. Everybody saw that one coming. But they have a chance to save two, one of each, one girl, one boy. The fight over who they save for the girl was very funny because obviously Nick's going to stand his ground. He's going to try to save Landria. Ace is kind of in between.

Taylor's like, please send her home. I can't do this anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if we get Ace or if we just get Taylor closing it off with Clark just so he can't have to worry about Alandria anymore. That would actually be kind of a funny little move. The heart rate challenge is what gives me hope. Oh, God, that's such bullshit. But we're going to have to, like, check you into a psych ward or something at the end of this, I think.

That's why I'm coming at it from a pragmatic stance of, yeah, I'm not dumb. I see what's happening, guys. But at the same time, much like Jurassic Park, life finds a way. Love finds away, guys. Jesus Christ. But, yeah, so they all go home. We get to save Elan, who. you're in the fucking villa man

like sarah wants nothing to do with you she wants nick we saw her want nick she got nick back you just need to move on like you got to find something go exploit iris she's with a dud tj like i don't understand iris like how are we not sitting here looking around if you're a dude who just got

saved and you're single like yeah i mean you want to try to like bark up the wrong tree you want to go after elandria fine she's single too he is a little bit and i'm not liking that no it's not going to work anyway but But look at all the other connections and look at who's not going to work. Who's the weakest connection and go after that one?

Either that or who's likely to split up with their connection. Why aren't you looking at, I always mess this girl's name up. I keep calling her Greckon, but I think it's Grayson or Graceland. Oh, you think it's Greckel. It's Grayson. Yeah, it's Grayson, but I kept calling her Greckon. No, it's not Greckon, but it's spelled the Greckon. Release the grackin.

But like, you should be looking at who's doing what in the heart rate challenge. You see that Andreina and. pepe are really getting on maybe you see i saw the the first look just before we started uh recording today looks like the two of them are talking so they're going to start exploring go after grason go after fucking anyone just like not sierra it's not going to work and it's just going to annoy us but yeah so the the recoupling kind of shakes out exactly how you think it would most of the ogs go back to each other except for taylor and uh and we just kind of have to see where it goes because we've got the heart rate challenge which again was a very

long episode just to give us, you know, some good kisses. There's, there's a lot going on when it comes down to the heart rate challenge. And I'm not just talking about the heart rates, talking about maybe a little issue with hootah. Mm-hmm. So that's the big sticking point, right? And then I'll talk about some of the other notable performances, if you will. But the big sticking point here is Huda and Ace, because during their challenge, you could

tell they were getting into it, I firmly believe they didn't air nearly everything that happened. Yeah, they definitely didn't. Yeah, there were some edits in there at the end when Hooda and Chris pull Shelley and Ace, Chris and Shelley

are done. They are walking away. They're all finished. Hood is still firmly on top of Ace, then turns around that basically puts his face in her ass, and then they just completely cut, and then they're standing up. And you can see everybody's face just kind of reacting to what just happened. And they're like, wow, or like saying things like that wasn't a challenge.

That's not a challenge. I don't know if it was more like, we can't show this or like, I don't know what the parameters are for the. I don't, I'm not sure for the ratings. Or soft core born. Like was it too much to even show us? Like they could have just did the, you know, the noises of everybody kind of screaming and them watching everybody's face while it happens. I don't think they need to watch their face. I'm like, yeah.

Oh, God. What's going on there? Oh. So I'm interested to see where you stand on this because Shelley's upset. She's, she's kind of mad at Ace, but she's really mad at Huda for doing all of that. So what do you think about her stance on this? Do you think it's a little too much or do you think that she's right on the point? I think is way too much.

Like I said early on, I do understand getting upset. And I do understand if you want to have a conversation with Hoda to be like, hey, I thought we were girls. That was a little far. and do I think it was a weird move for a hoda to pull ace yeah now back to what i've been standing on for the entirety of this show if you are not closed off and i've got multiple points to to support my theory if you're not closed off that tells me you're still fair game and i don't think it's right to be able to pick and choose who's allowed to do extra and who's not based on your feelings, unfortunately, because that's how this game is formed. The biggest part of my defense,

you went to Chris twice, and you know how Ace feels about that whole situation. You're well aware of the tension there and how Ace feels about it. Not only did you do that, but you draped your leg, you did a splits on him and made out with them for a long time, came back around and did it again. okay so that to me is just as bad if not more so because you know at the end of the day ace and the hood are not going to be a thing that's not going to be a thing it's a challenge it was too far yeah can you have a conversation with ace about it later sure but you went to somebody that you're interested in have a connection with twice so when everything shakes out at the end then you want to act all up in arms about this whole thing for playing the game this is the game

this is what you're supposed to do a lot of people because i like initially i saw it and i was like oh that was a lot but then more people go and i'm looking around at some of this shit going on i'm like i mean a lot of people really got into it so i am going to take into account that i don't think we saw the whole thing but at the same time i don't think that that's fair to crucify hooda and it's it's more so it feels at this point like okay easy target fuck hooda yeah here's my problem with the the Shelley Huda ace situation. They immediately start talking about how Huda would have been livid if anybody did anything like that to Jeremiah. That's true.

The thing is, and Shelley even said this, Huda set boundaries. Hood has said, don't go after my man like that. She even did the weird, you know, the ring girl thing at the one challenge where she bent over backwards to yell at Iris. So she made sure, as annoying as those were, she did set boundaries. Don't go after my man. She would have been closed off in a heartbeat. I don't think that Ace and Shelley are going to be closed off yet because they're still playing the game and they're scammers. But Huda set those boundaries.

Shelly is not setting boundaries on Ace. So you can't get mad at her saying, oh, well, you know, it's a double-edged sword. If you set boundaries here, but you're not setting boundaries there, like, where's the sisterhood and that? I'm so tired of the sisterhood. Yeah. It's easy to be like, oh, yeah, we still have to go talk to each other. We're still friends at the end of the day. Like, enough.

Like, if this season's a dud when it comes down to the sisterhood, thing. They should have been doing this a while ago, and now they're just doing it now, and it's starting to piss people off. Close off if you have a problem with it. Exactly. Make it well known that you don't want people going after Ace. Instead, like you said, you're talking to Chris. You're doing this. You're entertaining different options, but you're getting mad at Huda during a challenge for doing that. Do I think Huda took it too far? Probably. We didn't really see it. I imagine she did. I imagine she did just based off of the other things

that she was doing. But at the same time, you can't really be that pissed off at Huda. when you can't tell everybody hey that's my man don't go after him don't do weird things don't do things that i'm going to get upset about because you're the way you're moving is completely contradictory of all of that so that's my problem with it and i don't really think i can be on shelly's side and it's not just because i think her and ace are scamming it's because i just don't think that it really lines up with what you're saying that hoda was doing the entire time and the other problem is you voted to save huda like three times you could have sent her home you could have sent her ass pack in a long time ago but you chose

to keep her because you thought you could see good in her. Now you're starting to see that you should have probably sent her home because she's going to create problems. And like you said, she's not going to couple up with Ace. Ace is going to start thinking, whoa, maybe I should be with Huda. That's just not going to happen. So I don't think you should even be worried about that aspect. All you're worried about right now is that felt disrespectful.

You're on Love Island. Get over. Grow up and move on. Exactly. The disrespect part of it, I was like, dude, it's the game. You may not like it. But everybody here's had to watch somebody they're into go way too far in a challenge. And again, I understand this might have been a different level based on everyone's reactions to everything, but it's the challenge.

And I thought it was an overreaction. I don't like how so many of the girls go to Shelly's defense. And once again, Huda's out on an island. I thought that was fucked up. Like Andrina going back and being like, she sits there and has like a heart to heart with Huda. then takes that information and mocks her as she's retelling at the Shelly. I was like, that's going to be up. I kind of like the mess.

There needs to be more mess. Time out. Okay. For the show, yeah, absolutely. This is what we wanted was to throw chaos. But you're talking about the sisterhood. The sisterhood thing. And I think another part of why sisterhood's running out of steam for us specifically is we

watched it in Beverly Hills. We're watching in Atlanta right now. And now we're hearing it on Love Island. And it's never an actual sisterhood. It's just a way to placate. until you inevitably fight again. But, yeah, dude, I thought that the whole thing kind of sucked for Hoda. I feel like she is, and also arguably, by her own fault, the target because of how she acted

with Jeremiah. But like you said, because initially, before you explained your side of it, in my head, I'm like, oh, the Jeremiah argument is actually pretty good. But I didn't take into account, like you said, the boundaries were annoying. set every single episode so and then we can move on from it but i think the biggest sticking point for me still and will always be the chris aspect of it all i think how she acted with chris in that challenge negates anything that ace was doing with hudda yeah definitely absolutely what what else i had something oh you probably have a theory about taylandria go

ahead no no i'm going to end the episode with that uh great ace how ace was Talking about this scenario with Shelley and Chris was so ace, like, I almost laughed at it. When he's talking to Taylor in the sauna, and he's like, I hate losing, man. Like, I don't lose. I'm like, you've got to go to war. It's, it's, she's somebody that you're supposed to love and care for. It's not a game, bro. I know it is a game technically, but, yeah.

But what the fuck kind of talk is that? It just shows, again, like, there's something about. him. I said this, even early on when everyone loved Ace, I said it. I said, I don't trust this guy. And I think more and more is coming to light where it's like, yeah, he's not a very trustworthy person. Yeah. And I just, I don't know,

man, that whole thing's getting so sketchy and messy. And then the Chris aspect of it because of the notion that they knew each other beforehand and Shelley and Ace, now I'm like, all right, well, she just entertaining Ace, or sorry, Chris, to throw us off the sense some more.

I don't know. Like, the whole thing kind of stinks yeah and the other part about that is we have not seen either of them kiss anybody outside of a challenge not one i think i'm pretty sure and we've seen a lot of very ugly ugly kisses i'm pretty sure that everybody has kissed outside of a challenge except for the two of them at this point a landry yeah landry nick uh i can't think of anyone else that has not i can't think of even the cost of people like they want to be the they want to be the ones that are saying that no one else is doing it right and they want to send people home for not playing the game sierra wants to get on her high horse when they sent hannah home and say she wasn't really

exploring it's like she was the only one exploring actually but whatever guys he was the only one exploring yep so i think the the big thing moving forward will be what happens with pepe and and and and andrena because i do like both of them i really like pepe i like that guy hana on afterson and Hannah on, I think she was on the Vial Files, talking about Pepe, he genuinely seems like a really nice guy. I think he's a solid dude, yeah. Yeah, definitely cheering for him. You know, Amaya and Zach for now, there was a clip for tonight's episode where Zach is

exploring a little bit with O'Landria, which is very interesting. But right now they're my number one. And then, you know, whoever Pepe decides to team up with, go ahead and fill that number two slot. Everybody else can kick rocks. I just do not care about anybody else right now. I'm tired of them. Yeah, I'm not really invested.

I will say in the challenge, Alon, it was the final nail in the coffin. Like, I get what him and Alandri were doing. Alandria put on a show. And that, to me, that's the only thing that gave me a hope that Taylor Andrea may still work out is that because that's definitely going to sit in his head for a very long time. I don't know if well. But when Alon is walking away with Sierra, like, I get it. I understand the game you guys set up. I actually don't think it's a bad play.

I think it's kind of funny. It's kind of fucked up. It's all of those things in one. I'm here for that. Don't turn around and say to Nick, now is your turn to watch. Shut up. Who are you? You're not laying, you just simply can't lay claim to Sierra at all.

No. So it's not like you're in a forced love triangle of your own making while the other two are like, yeah, no, we're done with this guy. You're not really a factor, bud. I just, I think it would have hit so much harder. he was just, I'm the wild card now. I'm a single guy in the house. I wasn't here before. I don't know or care about any of your connections.

I basically just got turned down over here. I'm going to move on to the next. If he pulled an iris, if he pulled, fuck, if he pulled Shelley, if he pulled anybody else and said, on the wild card, you got to just wait and see what happens. I'm going to try to explore everything. That's how you play the game. That's how you bombshell.

That's how you cost, whatever you're going to do. You're supposed to be doing that and exploring the other connections. If you get stuck on Sierra, you're going to go home very fast. You're going to be out before the end of the week. So I don't understand why he's playing that. Maybe he'll move a little differently tonight. It seems like Nick's being a macho man and like taking it to Elon and telling him that you can't be doing this. You can't be doing that.

I'm setting my boundaries like Nick and Sierra should just close off. They had a conversation where I'm like, are they closing off? Are they? Sierra almost went home. Sierra really wants to. Sierra would in a heartbeat. And unfortunately for shows like this, typically it is the girl that wants to close. off and the guy that's like well you know let's wait and see i think we should still be open it's like

nick you almost went home like you didn't have to if you would close off you got a second chance you tried with a landry it didn't work you're back with sierra you told all of us that you just wanted her back and you were so happy to see her it looked like you were happy if he had closed off then and then elan did all of that fine you know what you put your boundaries out there you guys are closed off that was a weird move by elan now i'm like nick doing too much you're not closed off maybe you can get back into the good graces. Maybe you'll be in the top three when they announced the top three for voting. Right now you're not because people are looking at you and it's not Sierra's fault,

but people are looking at you like, what are you doing? Why are we doing this? Well, when you have a conversation, you say I'm tired of the tests. It's like, okay. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Like the end of that conversation should have been, let's close off. And instead he just like kind of stuttered and then moved on.

It was weird. What do you say we round this bad boy off with some questions? Before we get there. Okay. Uh, the most important thing of this episode is why Talandria will still work out. So what we saw during the heart rate challenge and some conversations that were had prior, we did see Alandria and Taylor talking a couple of times. He was open to Clark saying, I might still explore this. He acknowledged in a confessional, this is really important that there is a

connection there. So it's not dead, right? And then Alandria, what this has done is lit a fire under her ass. She is in the game now. Do I want to see her explore connections with other people? I really do. And she deserves to find somebody that's going to make her happy and we'll appreciate her worth. Let me get that out there and make sure people hear it. Now back to my theory. After the shenanigans during the heart rate challenge, if you don't think there's some kind of hope there, if you think that he's not going to think about that while he's smooching Clark, you're wrong. You're wrong. And this is just a speed bump in the rom-com, guys. This is how you get to the happy ending. Of course, there needs to be a dramatic happening. There needs to be a climax in Act 3 that throws everything

off. That's where we're at right now. We just saw it. So this is going to send him off into the world. The big question mark is going to be, will Alandria take him back when he inevitably tries to return? That's the big question. Does he deserve a second chance? Probably not. But finds a way. Love always finds a way. And true love, hey, you can't get in the way of it. So it's just a matter of time. But we needed this to happen. We needed this to happen so Taylor can realize what he missed out on. He's going to realize that Clark was just a physical connection. It's going to happen. Where's the meat and potatoes of the relationship? That's with Alandria. And he's going to remember that.

I'm going to clip that and put that on TikTok with zero content. for all the people that don't listen to us so that they can immediately check you for whatever the hell is going on. Let's do the logical standpoint. The way that Taylor moves with Clark, you can very clearly tell that he was never interested in Elandria romantically based on the way that he's moving with Clark. So that's very obvious. And unfortunately for Elandri, and I still love her, I definitely don't love her as much as I did last week because at this point, her going after Taylor is embarrassing. It is tough to watch. And it is very, cringy and i am from a logical standpoint like yeah she should totally move on

yeah seriously like dude it is tough to watch every time that she tries something to like god elandria please stop it's so tough like you gotta move on we can't do this you can't be simping over that guy do you see what it looks like simping she's simping at this point and it's tough it is brutal and i know she has given us enough context of her life and her love life that we can draw a logical conclusion to why she's acting the way that she is. She's a slow burn. She hasn't really gone through something like this before. She's stuck.

She is stuck and I need the girls of the CASA or not in CASA anymore. I need the girls of the villa to step it up and pull her from the trenches because it is embarrassing and it needs to end. I can't do it anymore. So maybe they'll invite me to their wedding. Hopefully that works out. Maybe they'll invite me to the wedding for being the only one that believed in them. Yeah, sure.

In the world. Let's get to some questions. Hopefully are. I'm sure there's going to be some in there. A little bit more. That I'm an idiot. Yeah, actually, first one up here from Shauna Draper 27.

Not a question, but can't wait to hear if Steele still believes in Telandria. You guys shouldn't know me better than that by now. Yeah. At least shooter knows me. From Sarah D. Are we all in agreement that Shelley and Ace are scammers? I am firmly in the court of they are the biggest scammers.

And they need to go home. I'm dumb with them. 100%. From Hannah Budge, thoughts on that Sierra thinks it was better for Nick to have explored with Elandria. Oh, wait, we got to talk about that. We have to talk about that before we continue these questions. That's what I want to talk about. We can just use the question as a piggyback, but yeah.

So in that scene, because we saw Landria sit down because she's a real one and sits down with Sierra and goes through the whole situation to make sure she knows. and says, like, you know, immediately after the fact, I felt bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sarah's like, I don't feel any type of way about it. Like, if somebody was going to explore, at least it's you and I trust you and blah, blah, blah, blah, all those things. I didn't, I thought it could be a weird combo to have where it's like, you know, that don't love it, but hey, it's part of the game. Like, you're my girl, whatever, like Nick and I are back together. You guys are friends. No big deal.

That's fine. When she sits down with Iris and Iris is like, what the fuck? Like, that's fucked and, like, gets in her head. And then Sierra, I don't care if you have a change of heart, but to 180 that fast and be like, you know what? You're right. Fuck Al-Andri. I was like, that's kind of weird. It also shouldn't be fuck O'Landria.

It should be fuck Nick. But. Correct. Yeah, it was a bizarre turn because I thought that it kind of made some sense, at least if you're just looking at it black and white. Yeah, I guess it's better that. Nick explored with Elandria than some random girl that she's never met before and to hear it come from Alandria that there is no

chemistry there so they're going to move on Nick that makes sense if you're Sierra you're like look you know I always thought that we were going to have to test I was in Casa he didn't know what I was doing I basically turned down Elon because I was like I got to move back with Nick like I really want to be with him fine but

yeah Iris is once Iris started talking like yeah that is a really good point it's kind of fucked yeah you should probably be a little bit more worried about this and we're going to see that that's going to be like now you know we were thinking about movie night a little while ago with jeremiah jeremiah is not there he's not coming back but this is going to be the thing this is going to be what's going on because we had to see if sierra walked away from the conversation with elandrian that's where she was it's not going to hit that hard

but seeing her talk to iris and second guess it and then get into her head about it watching the two of them kiss and the things that they said beforehand that's going to fuck with her even more and it's going to fuck with their couple. So that's what we need for movie night. We need things to hit harder and not just be like, oh, yeah, we already talked about that. Everything's fine here. What do you think?

Do you think that it's like this big sticking point? Like, I'm glad it's going to, you know, stir up the show, but I just didn't think it was that big of a deal. It goes back to what I said before. Close off then. If you're not closed off, you can't get mad at people because they're your friend.

Yeah, no, I agree with that. I really don't think, but obviously, you know, we're pretty to all of the stuff that they're not. Yeah. We all watch the Nicolandria stuff, and we're like, no, this isn't going to work. They're not into it. This was a producer thing.

Fine. Let's just move past it. Like here, here you guys go. It didn't work out. Let's move on. There's people online, you know, you're Taylandria. There's people online that are the same thing about Nickelandria, where they're just doing the same thing. And it's like, it's enough.

You guys have to move on. Same thing. Yeah. I mean, I'm not moving on, but that's okay. Oh, we got another one from Jay Antonio Garito. So, is Steele still writing the Taylanger? Trainers? Does he come to his senses?

Come on. What do you guys think? Come on. Let's see. What do you guys think? From Zoe Cudla-Palae. Is Shelley upset because this wasn't in her and ACE's script? Maybe.

Look, if you've been dating for six months and you go on this show and you're trying to scam and then in the middle of all of it with a bunch of people that don't know that you're actually dating and boyfriend and girlfriend in real life, she's throwing ass. in your face, you're going to be a little upset. So, yeah, that's probably what's going on. I love this. I'm not going to, I'm just going to say the phrase, but Megan Dome, Midnight Ballerina.

That's a really good phrase. That is a really good phrase. Yeah, there's some rumors. We're all thinking the same thing. Yeah, we're not going to. We're not going to dig into that one. No, no, let's just say it's going to be tough to beat the allegations. Yeah, it was already pretty tough. And the last site just kind of solidified it.

Oh, wait, we didn't talk about this one from Mad Wob. I got the egg so bad when Zach said Mrs. Puff was his hear me out. What the fuck was that? I thought it was actually kind of funny. I thought it was hilarious. That's a dude thing. I mean, Mrs. Puff is no one's hear me out. No, but that's funny.

It was a funny moment. And that is pretty much the only thing that Zach did the entire time. That was Zach? I thought that was Alon. Zach with a C, no. Oh, wow. No, Zach with a C was the biggest dud ever. After he said, of course, Australia thing,

I wanted him to leave instantaneously. Let's do like two more if you find some good ones. Let's see. From Megan Purdom, why isn't Shelley mad at Ace for the ass grabbing on Huda? That's our question, too. That's a good question, yeah. All the smoke. Ace was the one with a palm full of her ass.

If she's going to get mad, get mad at him too. Love Island is just getting mighty close to being poured this season. I don't think it's a, it seems like they're cutting a lot out, so it's probably a lot worse than what we're seeing. Yeah, this one's funny, too. 15 AMG. Are these Bravo producers, Shelly and Sarah blaming the other women for their toxic men?

Yep. We all know it so, like, too well, thanks to Bravo. I'll do this one last because, unfortunately, I have a negative response to it. But from Holy Beck's Batman, is this the beginning of the end for Ace and Shelley? I hope and pray. it would be good they're not going to recouple they're not going to choose somebody else unless they start to just completely spiral and they're just trying to figure out how to win they're just not going to break up and go anywhere and the other problem is there are other duds for couples so if it comes down to an america vote and we have to leave them up there at the end of the day the way that that works the islanders still get to choose who they save so what they'll do is and this will be after you know moving be night this will be after everything what they'll end up to actually it could be this week they're changing everything but what they'll end up doing is they'll do the top three couples and

they won't tell you who the number one couple is they'll have us vote and then the fourth couple will be saved as well and then you'll have three couples standing up there I guess my math is probably right with that the islanders get to choose the couple that's most compatible and then the other two couples will go home so that makes sense yeah so that's what's going to end up soon two more from Hay Heel Should we be more concerned About Zach's lost cat

It sounds like Zach's lost cat Found a lovely home To go live in A lovely pampered lifestyle Yeah Groomed and pampered So I think that the cat's good

And then to finish it off I got to from Jamie Gibbs Steel if I can admit I was wrong about Talandria You can too The difference between you and I have a backbone I stand on business I go ten toes down

when I believe in something. That was mean. Jamie, Jamie, we love you. I'm not being serious. I'm serious about Talandria. If you got off of this train, I trust me, understand why. Due to me proclaiming it from the mountaintop for the past four weeks, I don't have the luxury of getting off this train until it goes plummeting into a canyon. But you'll be along for the ride.

they hear it happen that's great as a dev asked me she's like so what are you going to tell people i was like oh i'm not done he's not done he it still will go through the season finale he'll go through the reunion and he will still be sitting there he'll be like did you see the way they were looking at each other wait till next season i'll still be talking about it we'll see about that i don't know if you're gonna you're you'll remember it but you won't remember why i'll be like what was that taylandria shit all about who's tail andria again Yeah, my stupid brain, but yeah. I'm curious, tonight is kind of a big night, I think, for what the direction of this show is going to be and how strong they're going to end it.

I feel like this is a big indicator of, do we have a good season on our hands or did they do too much? Yeah, definitely. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope, all good here. That's our show, Taylandria for life. I mean, bro's got to go. Hey, Michael.

Hey, Tom. You want to tell him? Or you want me to tell him? No, no, no. I got this. People out there. People, lean in. Get close.

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