Bros & Shows - Team Lexi or team Jesse? (Summer House Finale Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

What's up Bros? We had our members join us for our Summer House Finale recap. What a summer it was. In this episode, we get the aftermath of the Lexi Jesse conversation at the dinner table. Despite Jesse's behavior for the majority of the summer, it appears he is getting more support than Lexi which is strange to us. Lexi might not be your fav, but its pretty evident she was not the problem in this relationship. West finally speaks up and Gabby tries to shut him down. At the final party, Jesse wastes no time flirting with randos and pressing Lexi's buttons. Lindsay recaps her summer and it is one of her more fond ones. Paige is clear that she is not in a good place and that is largely due to Craig. The episode ends with Lindsay giving birth (hooray!) and Paige spilling the tea of the break up. They also tease an "ending" to summer house, but is it actually or are we bracing for a new show being announced...? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's kind of sad that they actually broke the fourth wall in a weird way by putting things into perspective of, I'm not going to see you for a while because we're not living together during the summer anymore. I don't know. It felt like I'm going to, I'm going to talk a lot about that scene because it felt like they were teeing some things up. Oh, that, that's a different scene. No, I'm talking about all of it. I know which one you're talking about. And I'm saying, I think if you put it all together, uh, we're looking towards the future. I'm your co-hosts and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows.

Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only summer goods. What's up, dude? Not a whole lot. Summer is finally over. And boy, my, sad yeah it was a solid season though it was a very very good season i was entertained from start to finish yeah entertained for sure it seemed like we we closed a bit of a loop with the jesse and lexie which was the main storyline of the season and it seems like for the most part everybody else is in a pretty good spot you know i think i think most people except for you know the two of them

would say they had a good summer they made some growth and that's what we want to see and especially with this the way that the timing works out we finish up summer on our TVs just to enjoy summer outdoors and that's what it should always be yeah that's a good way to look at it because when they started out it's always cold as shit here and then we have to watch them like hanging out in the hamptons that's a bummer but when you do put it that way it's leading us to the summer the summer house takes us to our summer homes if we have them i don't yeah maybe something but let's get into this episode right away and we are joined tonight by our beautiful members so if you would like to join our next live stream then make sure you sign up for pro bros members click

the link in our instagram bio or go to the bros dot memberful dot com it's five dollars for the month fifty dollars for the year so sign up today's you don't miss out next time now let's get down to business i thought you're going to say something cool to back me up that's all right nope got nothing for you thanks bro appreciate you Thank you. But let's jump right in because we have to pick up where we left off last week. And that's finishing up the conversation at dinner. And Lexi is going in on Jesse. And once I go through this, I have some questions for you. But she's blaming Jesse for the lack of connection that she has with every girl in the house. And I'm glad that Sierra spoke up here because we've been team Lexi for a majority of these things. That's not only Jesse's fault that she does. didn't make a connection with anybody. She needs accountability there, too. She made her entire personality of the summer.

I'm Jesse's girlfriend. That's the only thing she did and tried to do. And you can point to different things like the Bailey situation where she just disappeared. And yeah, I know she said, uh, Lexi has said in recent interviews that she wishes the Bailey would have hung on for the summer because it would have given her someone else to hang out with. I don't believe it. I can't believe it.

It's a good excuse. Don't get me wrong. It is a very good excuse. It's a good. little cop out. But what about everybody else that's in the house? And we know that they can be a little intimidating here and there. But you can't now say, I couldn't get close to these girls in the house because you didn't let me, because you kept me isolated. We pointed to that for a lot of this summer. But at the end of the day, it is on you. You are an adult. You are allowed to go do things of your own

free will. So that's, I'm not going to say, I'm not even going to use the words that's not fair to put on Jesse because he does deserve getting blasted at this point. Yeah. But at the same time, you do have some responsibility there yeah that's my point that's my only point is like you've got to take some accountability in this whole thing but west decides that tonight's the night that he's going to start to speak up and boy did i enjoy it i agree because he asked it was so funny and the fact that he got support from sierra i was like oh wow there we go everybody like page look circle speak up come on except one person but west asks you know what changed from two weeks ago and i think we've gotten the answer to that where it's like it was a multitude of things it was her texting him

it was just not but it is it's a really funny apparent question we watched you guys break up two weeks ago why are we doing this again is pretty much what he's saying put it into lay terms for us try to talk to us like we're five years old what happens that's all we want to know well when she's getting into it she's like i'm breaking up because when i'm talking to people i'm embarrassed to tell them that i'm dating jessey and the lies and the deceit and And she starts to go in. And now my question for you and for our audience as well, was this all 100% just built up and I'm just going to let it out at the table?

Was she aware of some of the cameras around perhaps? Was this her trying to have a moment or was this solely she's going to let Jesse have it. Finally, she's fed up and I'm just going to get it all out there. I think, and I'm trying to be on. biased but I do think that something clicked and I don't know if it happened before they got there and I know we talked we had a conversation about the ick last week whether it was on the way up or the last couple of days I think the major point the major turning point if you will was after the breakup after she had that conversation with all the women in the house and Kyle about breaking

up with Jesse did it she didn't come into roaring applause all of these women and Kyle all said yeah got to do it. Are you going to do it right now? Yeah, get it over with right now. Have fun the rest of the week. And you have to do this. She did it. She got all that support, walked into the kitchen and no one was there. And then she's just sitting there by herself like, well, what the fuck? Where's everybody at? Oh, they're upstairs actually consoling Jesse because you broke up with him. So it was a complete 180 and we know why. And obviously we're going to get into the nitty gritty of them kind of flocking towards Jesse once again. But if you're Lexi, yeah, that probably was a big turning point. Like, holy shit. I had

have no relationship with these people. And then she probably started thinking about it. I think it was genuine. I think that her feelings are genuine. I think her feelings make a lot of sense. But yeah, you also didn't do this. So you're not taking any responsibility for not getting close to the girls in the house. Yeah, I agree.

But the way that she's saying things, she's like, you know, you're only happy when it's me and you and you were suffocating me. But at the same time, she said that he treated her like shit the entire summer. And Wes calls that one out as well. He's like, well, which one is it? Was he suffocating you? Or did he treat you like shit the entire summer? which I mean I think I know what she was saying I do too but it's it's a tough phrase

it's a tough phrase and that's where I it seemed like she was trying to land these haymakers like this was her moment to be like fuck you Jesse and maybe she's just not practiced with it because this isn't her normal she doesn't lash out like this yeah but she said some things I was like eh you're kind of whiff in a little bit I'm still team Lexi as far as like the grand scheme of things go but West is like well trying to defend the venting. Jesse's venting to the house. And I still don't agree with how he did it.

Because the way that he phrased things to his friends versus how he was talking to Lexi, that's where my problem lies. It's like you're saying two different things to different people. A thousand percent. And I don't even think that's what they were arguing about. And I don't think that that's what they were saying. Because Lexi doesn't really know what he's saying to the other people in the house. She just knows he's talking about a relationship and he's talking about me.

And she's heard bits and pieces here and there. We watch this the whole summer. he was turning this to his favor he was turning it to lexie's a little psychotic like am i ready for this she wants me to meet her parents like you again just as we're looking at lexie saying you had responsibility to go be friends with other people in the house and not just jesse jessie you had the responsibility of saying fuck no i'm not going to go meet your parents of saying fuck no i'm not going to hang out with you six days out of the week then go up to the mountain or go up to the hamptons why am i thinking about the mountains right now i don't know no it's a nice place to be

but still same thing we're looking at jesse like yeah you definitely did turn it but he was talking to everybody in the house and that is normal behavior so everybody who's defending him in west right now west saying like yeah this what's going to happen of course he's going to talk about everybody in the house when you get into a relationship and things are weird you're going to lean on your friends you're going to lean on the people that are around you to say yeah what do you think about all this yeah what do you think and she wasn't doing that but he was and i god damn know for sure that she was back to her weird sister or mom saying what do you guys think about this what do you think about this so it's the same thing well they were like oh he bought us tequila he's great yeah yeah that was

the extent of that conversation but they were probably talking about like sex they're so bizarre yeah i know it's strange they definitely talk about sex and stuff yeah right like totally like the sisters right like i hooked up with this dude last night they're like oh tell me all about it yeah yeah picks let me see yeah show me his insta but i didn't mind west standing up for Jesse here. I didn't mind because I knew what he was getting at. He's trying to paint the picture of like, all right, well, can you see it from this perspective? Gabby out of nowhere, shut up, West. I love that page was like, no, no, no. Like, good. Keep going, West. Speak up. Even Sierra's like, good. Hell yeah. West finally took you long enough. And I love

that he called out Gabby. He's like, it's always the ad libs with you. And then in his confessional, he's like, you know, she's always talking shit on everyone else and how they handle their relationships, but we haven't seen her do shit in three years. Like, what are you doing? I was like, it's kind of fair. It's, it's definitely fair. It's definitely reasonable. I will say that Gabby tends to be on the right side of history with a lot of this stuff. So when she does speak up, it usually makes a lot of sense. And I, I've always liked that about her. But outside of that, she hasn't done anything. So West isn't wrong by saying, what have you shown us? It's sort of what we're going through in the valley on a much lower, more realistic level of what are you

showing on this show we're showing relationships we're showing breakups we're showing all of the things that we're doing we've got people who were married breaking up off or breaking off engagements all of those things gabby's not showing any of that she came in this season and said yeah i'm going to go hook up with people but i'm not doing it on the show what you haven't done anything on the show what are you afraid of so i don't really get that so yes i understand where west is coming from like pipe down you don't have say here because you don't really get involved in this stuff and you haven't shown anything so it's unfair for you to do that but again gabby does tend to tell the truth i agree but i also and i've thought this for two seasons now it's like i don't know

why she takes other people's relationships so personally like i don't understand why she gets so invested in this girl's girl like you can see that it's it's just an over-the-top girls girl it's yeah and like in this moment because most of the people at the table like hell yeah west about god damn time you found your voice i i think that's more what it is and i also don't really understand it The way they're phrasing it is that he's finally stepping up to defend Jesse. That was weird. What do you mean? That was weird.

What do you mean defense Jesse? Jesse has done bad shit all summer and he hasn't gotten any shit for it. The only thing that anybody gave him shit for was the toe-sucking thing. You all knew about the Sierra flirting situation. You all knew how he was getting let's-y. You're all party to the Sierra Flirts. You're all party to all of this. What do you mean West is finally defending Jesse?

Like he's some little defenseless Bambi out there that's just been getting being beat down by some girl named Lexi. It's not what, like, I don't get it. I didn't understand that at all. I didn't either. I think it was more like Rao, Ra, West finally spoke up. And I think in this instance, he could,

he could offer a unique perspective because of his experience last year. So I didn't think it was, I didn't think he was wrong to speak up. I didn't think he was wrong at all. And it was also very funny. It was when he speaks up and goes, you can see his eyes light up. Like, well, you guys, you liked that? It worked? Hell yeah.

yay we want more west okay yeah and i think that you know watching again the reactions afterwards where i think lexie's like trying to poke fun a little bit and she's like hey west like shut the fuck up like jab and she got triggered immediately i know and she's like shut the fuck up and page is like no say what you want to say and gabby's like no don't i'm like dude like i don't know it's just it's i don't get why it's so personal and i i understand being a girl girl's girl not like i understand it but i understand that that's who you are and i appreciate that and lexie does need support in this moment but it's like go for jesse not for west you know what the problem is with gabby she shouldn't have gone after west you go after that's my point yeah everybody else is

now coddling jesse after all of this after what you've seen and you've heard gabby's heard just as much as everybody else she needs lexie needs help going after jesse because jesse's looking at the rest of the table like did i do that guys and they're all supporting him and they're all supporting him west is stepping in and speaking logical somewhere down the middle you can go after you can say something to west but she should be going after jesse not west that's the problem i think then she ends it with i'm not giving credit for mediocrity i'm like take that energy towards jesse man like i don't know why west is catching strays here because he finally spoke up but yeah the dinner wraps up and it's after the dinner and page again like the reactions to jesse after all this went down it's very

strange it's very strange because they simply just like jessie more that's all it is right he's their boy and that's that's that's all it is they're just excusing his behavior they know all of it they understand all of it but at the end of the day who do they who they really want in that house who's more fun who's a who's a better time jesse and that's really what it comes down to for them yeah paves like you it's like you cheated or anything it's like no one's saying he did but he did give this girl the running around and like yeah i don't know man it was a very strange thing even sierra comes over and she's like cool with them and then they start flirting again like what even amanda coming over and saying her like the body's still warm i'm like guys stop and they're making jokes

about it in the house man like that's fucked up and you guys all claim to be girls girls like she's sad this is not a funny thing yeah that was that was brutal too like i fully understand if you just want to lean into she could have done more she could have tried to reach us and be friends with us fine but to do that right afterwards like come on guys like you know you're going to get called out you know that everybody especially now everybody's off of jesse everybody's ripping him to shreds watching all of this behavior you guys are really going to do that there like you know what you're doing too it's just it's a tough look for all of them it was a bad look i was confused and look the only person who comes out looking good by the way is

Kyle. I know because he goes, hey, I'm really sorry that I got involved with all of this. I didn't really mean anything by it. I just wanted to check on you. Good move, Kyle. Kyle is he has never had a better, more well-behaved season. This was his best season ever. I think so too. And he gotten in terms of behavior. Yeah, exactly. I know. With MX Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy your travel bug, but your taste buds too. That's the powerful of Amex. Conditions apply. The twisted tale of Amanda Knox is an eight-episode Hulu original limited series that blends gripping pacing with emotional complexity,

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But yeah, dude, it was a very strange thing to watch. Like, and I know exactly what it was is what you said. It's like, yeah, they like Jesse better. We like Jesse more. We don't care about you. I know. It's just strange. And I've seen in the comments and stuff, too, people, they don't love Lexi.

They're like, oh, she's annoying. She's this. She's that. That's fine. But let's not let that muddy the waters of like what happened this summer. Yep. And I feel like that's starting to happen a little bit. You know the like the two like basketball player comparisons where you take the name out,

you take the picture out and you just. look at the stats yeah that's how people need to look at this you need to remove lexie remove jesse remove remove everybody just do it with like a complete casual situation figure out whose side you're on every single person is going to look at lexie and be like yeah there's some shortcomings here but she was manipulated all summer so i'm going to be on her side then you throw page and amanda and everybody else in there and it's like whoa hold on where are they going i have to flock to this side like shut up it was weird it was weird but everyone's going out uh lexie doesn't want to sleep in her room because jesse stayed in there all summer so she's camped now with gabby uh lindsay

calls turner turner turner turn those rich tea names and says dinner's pretty chill i'm like yeah she said oh watch what happens live because and they asked her like what turner thought about the whole instagram post and she's like oh i tell him everything he was okay with it he doesn't really care he does not care about carl at all i can't imagine so i i fully understand or I fully believe rather that Lindsay is very transparent with Turner and she's just like yeah this is what I'm going to do and he's like sounds good I'll check you later babe yep call me tonight yep have fun and I'm sure she he probably doesn't want to hear about the drama so she's like it was chill he's like perfect yeah I'm sure but we get to Sierra and page and we're obviously finally

tying a bow on the Craig and page stuff I the funniest part about the last scene of this is everything that was discussed we've already heard we already know about there was no new news drop the only thing that was kind of getting people's attention was the alleged texting of other girls that wasn't even on the episode they said that was in the trailer and they just got rid of it i wonder why i i just anytime that that happens i wonder who has the power to say like maybe page reached out or page's team reached out and said hey that's not included anymore let's get rid of it I don't want to deal with the backlash after all this. I don't know.

Maybe. Who knows? I have no idea. But she's talking about the giggly tour is coming up in 10 days. And she's concerned about her lack of excitement because she's just anxious about this whole thing. Because all she can think about is how it's going to affect Craig and what Craig's reaction to this whole thing is going to be. So this is the real start of the end. This is where she's figuring out like, okay, he's fucking with my life now.

But the boys all come home. And West, veteran move. You take the tray of sandwiches into the room. I do wonder, and this is a tough move. But obviously, on those trays, we've got oil, we've got mayo, we've got all those things. Bringing that to bed is tough. Well, it depends. Like, when we get the Primos.

The oil can spill. I know, but the oil can still in bed. I know, but it comes in the little container on the side. Sometimes if you get the Hogi tray. Now, obviously, I don't think they would have gotten it from Primo. maybe I'm wrong but it looks like it was one of those that has like the middle condiments you know what I mean oh you pour like in the bowl in the middle yeah I got like a little concerns that there's oil in the bed that's yeah or mayo may oh yeah that's true yeah that's true you know

but we get to the next morning and jesse wakes up sad and of course everyone's coming to check on jesse make sure that jesse's okay it's wild he's like i just you know i gotta wake up and spend the whole day on a girl that just dumped me it's like she dumped you for a reason, brother. It's not like this came out of left field. You know, maybe. Dumped me again, by the way. That's my point.

You got dumped last weekend. You got dumped again this weekend. Is it much different? No. So my point, then this might be valid. Do you think had the first breakup stuck, they'd be team Lexi,

but now that we're running it back, they're over the whole thing. And like, we like Jesse better. Who cares? It depends. So same exact situation, but last weekend. Yeah. And it was just the one breakup.

No, I still think it would have played out the same way. The exact same way? Do you think they would have been a little bit more gentle? Yeah, I think it would have been the exact same. I think what it was is I think the fact that Lexi made it about Sierra in that moment instead of just staying on Jesse and saying that he was a bad boyfriend, I think they could have potentially, because in the beginning of the conversation, they did get behind her a little bit.

They let her talk, let her speak, and weren't. really chiming in as much, but once she turned to Sierra, once you involve somebody else in the house who everybody knows and they're friends with, it's not going to work. So I think if she did the same thing last weekend, it still would have resulted in the same thing. Oh, so that, oh, that's a good point. So the minute it shifted was when she turned to her left and said, I don't trust you, Sierra. As soon as you bring in like a third party, yeah, you bring in a third party, then everybody can have a free for all. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. I'm on board for that. But we get a scene with Gabby, Lexi, and Lindsay. And Gabby and Lindsay are really the only two that

have decided to check on Lexi and make sure that she's okay and she's already crying the next day and she's just overwhelmed with everything. She's realizing her lack of friends in the house because the only person she was close to was Jesse. So now it's even more uncomfortable because she lost her boyfriend and she lost her friend friend. So she's sad. I was about that. You know what it was. I think she lost her whole summer. This was her shot in summer house. She wanted to give it a go. She got wrapped up in a relationship immediately and realized it was for nothing at all. there is a real possibility because she has no friends in the house, that she won't be back next year.

This was a whole thing. It's all planned out. I don't think anybody joins Summerhouse for the season and goes, yeah, just hang around for a season. Maybe Emerald did. Poor Emerald, just getting edited it out. Emerald got a fucking hoax. He's just not homed.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets edited out of the whole reunion. But when it comes to Lexi, I feel like she got into that house. If we know anything and we're watching her with her family, it looks like based on the press tour, You do care about cameras. You want to have cameras around you. You want to do this whole life.

She could have just completely screwed herself over with this whole thing. And I think the weight of all of that was crashing down on her the next morning. I don't think she was crying about Jesse. I don't think she'll move on. She'll be fine. She said it herself. She loves and she leaves. Whatever.

She can move on with her life. I think it was really just the weight of fuck. Did I just screw myself out of an easy Bravo contract? Interesting. That's heavy. That's what she's getting. Maybe it's a, maybe it's all the press tour is for. I think that's what the press tour is for.

I think she's trying to get it, yes. Save some face. Just make sure that you stay relevant. Everybody's going to be talking about you. Even if it's a bad thing that they're talking about, Rava could still be interested in bringing you back. No press is bad press, as they say. But they're getting ready for the party.

We're having a Halloween theme scary party. Now, the question is, would Mom Talk be allowed to join? No. Or is this a gray area? the church frowns upon this church frown it's a frowned upon gray area so they could potentially don't worry everybody we only respect the dead is what they would say yeah we got to address this i yeah i has he been giving hate rachel asked why does shooter hate lexie so much i don't you've been defending her no i

defended her a little bit i don't like her don't get me wrong i think she's a huge picnic but i i don't really care. Okay. No, there you go. That answers that. Indifference. Indifference.

Oh, Ryan says, Shooter's a hater. Shocker. Shocker. But West has an activity for the group. We're going to paint some tombstones, which was a layup, and I knew something was going to get written on one of these tombstones.

And here lies, Jesse's lies. I'm okay with it. It works. I'm fine with it. And again, like, and when he sees it later, he's like off like that really pisses me off blah blah blah it's like okay here's my big thing

here's my big thing with everything right like you just said the lack of self-awareness this dude has is baffling to me you got yourself into this spot so can you not for the last weekend just understand like hey maybe i did fuck up stop getting so upset that she's attacking your character and dragging you because you did shitty things he's so concerned about people thinking he's not a good dude that he's not actually taking the time to look inward and say am I a good dude that's a fucking problem so you deserve

the tombstone you deserve this shit it's just it's so disingenuous like if you came out right away and said you know what I'm gonna lead into being single we had a whole conversation about this multiple times throughout the summer then it finally happens and you're like really bothers me really makes me feel mad like shut up

shut up like nobody cares with it the real you comes out during this party when you're doing all of those things that's what you want to be doing you've got a quick reminder of hey i can just start doing this that wasn't like a cry for help that wasn't a wow i'm so sad i better just start drowning my sorrows over here and these three blondes no you're not doing that because four blondes sorry they're all sisters which by the way gross that wouldn't work wait what still they yeah you didn't hear that no yeah he asked me so what do you guys like cousins or friends or they're like sisters yeah four sisters flirting with the same dude. Yeah. Yeah. Don't love it. Nope. Don't love that one. Jesse does. I'm going to answer this one real

quick for our boy Emerald from Amy Donnelly. Why justice for him really didn't do anything other than do the same thing like he did poured his summer into hookups rather than connections. He didn't do that. They edited him out of every single thing. He had tried to talk about the fact that he was starting an English school in Bangladesh. He had talked about a lot of other things. They just wanted to go the route of Orgy Beast and they shoehorned them into one role and then they edited them out of the rest of the season. So this is a production problem, not an immoral problem. No shade, just giving you the run down there.

But anyway, let's get back to it because we get the pre-party, I thought Sierra's outfit was hysterical because let's be real. There's nothing scary than a fire dance pro is going to fuck everybody out of a ton of money. All right. What was the name? Brantley. Brantley. Brantley.

Yeah. She even had a, this is attention to detail that we love for Halloween costumes. And look, Sierra's the best when it comes to any sort of costume for any sort of theme party. She's a great. Yeah. She shows up with that. I'm like, it's a little underwhelming until she got, we got close. You could see a little bit of powder on her nose.

I'm like, fuck yeah, that's funny. Powder on her nose, blue eyes, the whole thing. It was great. And then the way she got out, I was like, I've met guys that say things like that. That was, it was spot on. Bravo. Well done. But let's get.

get to the party and we got Kyle, Lindsey, and Danielle teeing up what I'm assuming is the future of this cast because they're sitting there and Kyle's like, look, I could do this forever. I love this. I don't care. It's great. Danielle's like, I'm pretty sure this is an ending. Nobody gives a shit what you think, Daniel. Like, did she come here just for this moment?

It's like, yeah, okay. And by the way, also, if we're going to tee up a subtle nod to a potential future of a different type of show with the same cast which all signs are pointing towards summer house in the city named something else something yeah how is this the best we could do where it's like this feels like an ending just like hammering it into us like this this is an ending this is an ending kind of is kind of isn't i mean we know what they were trying to do i think daniel screwed it over but you know whatever so i'm piecing that together with what happened they'll watch what happened live and all of the other rumors that we've heard supposedly Kyle's doing a residency this summer

at a somewhere in Southampton he's doing something at one of those bars so they could be doing this could be one last summer of doing that but I think the plan is exactly what you said which is more so towards the end of this episode with three girls that are sitting down talking with Amanda Paige and Lindsay something in the city with them with Kyle and then you leave people like Jesse, West, you know, if you want to keep Gabby, at the summer house, and then they get younger. So that's a possibility. Now, Carl wasn't in this episode, so I can't really speak to that. Now, yeah, but I'm down for that show. I like that show. Very down. Yeah, that would be good. I love when they're in the city anyway, but Lindsay's having a little bit of an identity crisis

because she's making this huge leap in her life, obviously, having a kid. She's looking at her future and what that future looks like, and she's not sure. And she's very, I like that she's candid about. And she's like, I have no idea. Like, where am I going to make my money? I don't know. I guess we'll find out as this thing goes on. There will always be a spot for Lindsay Hubbard in reality TV. Yes, because she's earned that right, because she brings gold to the screen, whether you love her or

or her hair. She's great at her job. She was hinting at it with Andy, too. She's like, what are we going to do, Andy? What are we going to do? And it's clear that they've already spoken about something. So there is definitely something on the horizon. It does seem like Lindsay might not be coming back.

I don't know if it's going to be this summer. or next because they're going to pick up cameras in like, what, four or five weeks at this point? Yeah, July 4th, isn't that? July 4th is when they start. So, yeah, so there's something on the horizon for Lindsay and that's, it's a definite for sure. Yeah, I think that we can all, I would bet a lot of money on that one.

But during this conversation, we flash over to Jesse, who was flirting with four blonde sisters, which makes us, I don't like this. But Lexi- Somebody pointed out that they could have been sorority sisters. I did see that. oh okay that i'm gonna we're gonna go with that to make me feel a lot better yeah let's go with that there's sorority sisters and lexie is just watching from afar which of course she is and then two of the girls say to jesse you like do you have two extra seats to get back to the city

tomorrow and he's like pro do anything for you i'm like you don't get anything you don't understand anything like all of your behavior this summer and this is how you're going to end it like this is why she dumped you which because this is by the way if we solve this and he didn't just go through all of that with Lexi the entire summer and Lexi wasn't there, we would still be making the same faces of that. We'd still be rolling our eyes and saying, dude, fuck off. I would do anything for you. As soon as he starts, it's like, come on, you have to do something else.

We can't do this. It's brutal. I need him to have another stick. Yeah. I need him to have another stick because we look at the easiest comparison to make is West, right? Mm-hmm. And there's still people trying to hate on West, whatever, do what you got. do sierra's forgiven him so you guys can forgive him now too but if you look at west right who came

into this season with a chip on his shoulder with a target on his back because he was a complete moron last year we can all agree with that one he showed a different side of himself i was still the same guy but he showed more depth if you want to call it that he just he brought a different thing to the screen that shows that he's a well-rounded character jesse we've seen one note from even when he was in a relationship with Lexi. It was kind of one note. So it's like, here's your chance to not be that guy. And you just got dumped and you're immediately reverting back to that guy. And I guess not even reverting back. You've just always been this guy. So it's just a tough look. Oh, God. I just realized what this summer is going to be him pushing his music. Yep. Oh, yeah. He's pushing it hard

already. Yeah, we're going to hear a lot of Jesse Solomon songs. Oh, God. But let's get to the kitchen because Jesse and Lexi are in there and it's awkward as shit and you can tell that he's at the point and this is kind of the vibe I get from him where it's like when someone's mad at him he just wants to move on from it regardless of whether they're ready

to move on or not from it and he gets the point where he's like mad at them now because they won't get over it and he's like look summer started strong so we can end strong she's like I'm not planning on having a friendship with you there's just way too much deception he's like well we broke up so amicably and she's like well then he

the whole house involved. Yeah, last week. And he's like, I didn't get the whole house involved. It's like, you did because up in the room, you were, and again, this is that gray area, I will admit, and this goes to West Point, West Point, when they're up in the room, what Jesse was saying was not super inflammatory. I think that he was talking to his friends. The problem there is the whole house should not have gone to check on Jesse.

Correct. That's the issue. So that's the house's issue. Because I didn't think anything he said was like that crazy. It wasn't that crazy. It wasn't that crazy. I was broken up with. You can't blame Kyle either because he tried to do whisper down the lane.

That doesn't work either. It really comes down to if we look at this in a nutshell, Jesse had just been broken up with whether you believe his feelings or not. People came to check on him. You came to check on somebody who was just broken up with in a humiliating way. It really is. It's humiliating. There's everybody there. Everybody knew about it.

he has to walk in he has to go deal with it i don't care how you guys feel about jesse if everybody's going to come to a dude or a girl who just got broken up with they're going to say some shit and i don't think that jesse said that much about anything i mean yeah he can't throw him into the bus on that one he hinted towards the sierra thing but he was talking about the u.s open he was talking about like this and that and flirting the sierra which was relevant to the conversation but that was pretty much it he didn't go that in depth about everything so they took it around with it kyle took it around with it. And then Lexi, obviously, you know, opened up what she's been feeling about the whole situation. Yep. She did. And that's when what he did do wrong in that instance was make it

seem like Sierra was a problem when what she actually said, it would have been nice if you invited me to the U.S. Open. And I was like, that's a really good point. I didn't even think of that. You guys just made up. And then she has to see you out. People online are calling her a liar for this, too. I don't really get. I'm telling you, there's this weird. Like, I guess, Again, if she's not your favorite, that's one thing. But like, to look at this scenario and not think that Jesse was wrong is that's weird. When she said that, I'm like, that makes so much sense. I didn't even think that it was an option for you to go to the U.S. Open with him.

And instead, he took Sierra. So, of course, you felt weird about this after all of the things that happened last week. So, yeah, that makes sense to me. I look online and it's like she's such a liar. She said that it wasn't even about the U.S. Open. But here she is complaining that she didn't get invited in Sierra. It's not about the U.S. Open. It's about the invite, dumb asses.

What are you talking about? She's upset because he picked Sierra over her to go to the U.S. Open. And that's just people like running with it. Again, do I like Lexi? No, I think she's annoying. But I'm not going to just call her a liar because I don't like her. If she's telling the truth and she speaks the truth and says something like this and it clicks at the exact same point, then yeah, of course I'm going to be like, well, yeah, that makes sense.

Jesse's an idiot. How are you going to break up with this girl, get back together with her, tell her. her that everything's going to be all right and then say you know what i got to go work on my uh friendship with sierra i got to go repair this thing at the u.s open i'm going to invite her you could have invited your girlfriend i guess he didn't invite sierra she was there and they hung out according to zoe in the members chat i think the the bottom line is he was there with friends he was there having a good time if he had thought about lexie and where they had been up until that point it would have been nice if he had thought about her to be like hey come along for the ride i think

that we can agree on that one yeah it makes sense but she does get a strike against her because she does again try to blame him entirely for the lack of connections this summer and i actually didn't think his response was that bad again it's the context in which he talked to his friends about lexie that's the problem because he said a lot of untruths or half truths to make her look crazy but when he says we're on a reality show i'm talking about my relationship with my friends hair for this. Oh, you didn't. I don't like it.

Do not tell me that I'm watching a reality show. Do not tell me that I'm watching a reality show. I hate that. That just makes me think that everything you're doing is for the show. Yes, you're talking to your friends. That's not that crazy. That doesn't just happen on reality shows. That happens in the real world.

You don't have to point to the fact that we're on a show. Now it just makes it look like you're doing all the shit for the show. And by the way, when she watches the show back, you're leaning on this. I didn't do anything when you watch this back. You're going to understand. she's going to be proven so right when she watches this back and she already watched it back she's going to instantly feel like oh my god yeah i was right why didn't i break up with him weeks before that i should have i should have broke up with him as soon as she sees 37 minutes in emerald's room i should have dumped his ass but i didn't know it was that long i didn't know that's what was going on she probably felt so exonerated and again she's not doing herself any favors out there but whatever no but in this moment when jessie's like yeah you got to go watch the show and you're going to understand she's going to understand that she's going to understand that she should should have dumped you earlier is what she's going to understand when he said that i was like what scene would you like to watch that makes you look good i know zero zero self-awareness

but i truly believe that he doesn't think he did anything wrong that's what baffles me i don't think he puts it together like oh i actually am kind of an asshole like i don't think he gets it it's pretty nuts it's like a like a social experiment yeah in a house with jesse it's yeah dressed as patrick Bateman. Yep, dressed as Patrick. That was, so during, and I know we just went over this with the, the girls asking for a ride home, he did say, yeah, we can all, like, ride back to the other. Maybe you guys can come out to my apartment. When he said that, I, like, jaw dropped immediately. He was doing a Patrick Batten.

He was doing a Patrick Bateman. Which is so much worse than him actually flirting that way. If you're doing that, and of course he was dressed as Patrick Bateman. So, yeah, that was that too. We could move on. He probably does look at himself in the mirror when he's boinking. just like Patrick Baiton. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

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360s around or spin moves to get to the kitchen. I'm glad that Sierra and Amanda did something. It still wasn't that strong, but they came in and they're like, you know, if this was me, I would be mad if I saw this inside. And he's

like, well, I just don't care anymore. And they're like, no, care. You should care. And you should care. And again, the way that he's acting is as though Lexi did fuck up things to him. Yep. That's confusing.

It's very confusing. And this was a very redeemable moment for all of them. And I think it's completely different, too. Because, again, we know that they like Jesse a lot. We know that they like Jesse more than they like Lexi. But this is when the girls' girls come out. You see something like that. It's just plain and simple.

It's just wrong. I don't care how much you like the guy. And again, you do like him because this would have been so much different if it was a guy in the house that they didn't like. They would have gone in there and broke the whole thing up and been very loud about it. Instead, they were just like, yeah, let's just like quietly, you know, get the fuck out of our house. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

Jesse, knock it off, man. It's like, if this was West last year, you guys would have walked in there and dragged them out with a nuclear atomic wedgey and like hung him by the pool by his underwear. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a weird double standard for him. I don't get it, but whatever. The party ends. And it's cute to see. Sierra page and Amanda planned their

face time their weekly face time because they're going to miss each other and they had a nice summer together it was nice to see them all vibe and it was nice to watch them support page as she's trying to navigate this shit with Craig I thought that the trio had a good good summer together but I think the break or breaking

point I think the complete the main difference rather is that Amanda had a great summer Amanda had a winnable season it was so nice she was just had like a better air about her just like anytime that they had a conversation between her and Kyle. Kyle had a great season. They would normally come out of that, mad at each other for weeks, and then we'd all have to be dealing with it. Instead, it was just,

hey, yeah, we'll figure it out. Don't worry about it, guys. Cool. I'm going to go back to having fun. Awesome. That's what we want to say. It was great. And it's what we would have seen, like, in years past, you don't hear from Kyle and Amanda until like two months later, and Amanda's on watch what happens live. Kyle's in the audience. You're like, oh, you guys are still together. And it pans to Kyle. And he goes, like a shrug in the audience. That's usually what we get. But you can tell that, again, Paige has reached her breaking point in this moment because she's like, and as much as we have random guy problems, I couldn't give a fuck less about them. And both Amanda and Sarah, like, that's about Craig.

Yep. Yeah, this whole thing's coming to a head. Yeah, I'm just going to lay down in my coffin and shut the lid real quick. But we wrap up the party. and wrap up this summer. Lindsay had a lovely summer. She did. You know,

she took her shots here and there, which was fun because it didn't get too heavy, but it was a nice little jab here and there. She kept it interesting, and she did. She had a great summer. And we get the three months later. And it's Lindsay strolling into the hospital,

getting ready to have that baby. Next day we get to see her with the baby. And this was a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. I'm so happy for it. It truly is. You know, she's wanted this for so long,

and she finally got her baby girl, and she looks so happy. sure she's a great mom it's just nice to see you know it's just nice just it was nice but monday december 30th 2024 and we get the full rundown with the news clippings and the clips the audio clips of the breakup and then here's the real story page that's the record straight blah blah blah we've been i was laughing on it with the uh the voiceover like that's just like some blogger on ticot it's sound of like such serious news. It's like, do we sound like that when we do shit?

No, I don't think we do. Well, spoiler alert or lack of spoiler. We were supposed to be on this season of summer. I know. This is what it like hit. And I'm like, fuck, are we not going to be on here? Yeah, they took one of our clips from the West interview. We signed a waiver and everything.

They never aired it. Yeah, I think because West and Sierra didn't really pop off at any point in time. And he just kind of took his licks and just laid down the entire time. I guess they didn't have to use it. But it's funny that you say that right now because when we're walking into Lindsay's apartment, I'm like, ah, that's what I realized in this one. That's what I realized. I was like, maybe it's the reunion. Maybe it's the reunion.

But they don't know, because they asked us way before they filmed it. Yeah. Yes. I don't know. Yep. Bummer. Maybe next time Monday, December 30 at 2024. Lindsay Page and Amanda, they meet up at Lindsay's house.

They all get to see the baby. It's really, really sweet watching the most. I'm so happy. Yeah, this scene was great because them being friends is just, it's the best. I can watch a show with them. How many summers to get here? Nine. Nine.

And maybe that's what this show was all about, getting these three together so that they can have a kick-ass show in New York City. Well, you know what? This, by the way, would have been a great way to announce that they're doing a show in New York City. This scene at the very end of it, like, we should do this more often. Cheers. There you go. show yeah i agree i agree someone pointed out that they didn't meet on december 30th i know i just keeping in tune with the voice i know the four that december 30th is when the news broke

semantics police rachel but lindsay's talking about turner you know pumping him up he's you know such a good dad and but she starts talking about the uh the inner workings of the relationship and the fact that he is so so private and she is so very public that it's kind of tough for them sometimes. They've had some hurdles to try to get over. They butt heads over this. And she goes as far to say, if we didn't have this baby, I don't know if we'd still be together.

But where she's at in her life, and it's cool to see. And this is why she told people, I'm not moving in with her. This is why she told people I'm keeping my apartment. She don't need no man. And she planned accordingly. She didn't have this baby assuming that she would have help all the time.

she actually had the baby ready to take care of her on her own if she had to which i i respect the hell out of i think it's crazy that we ended last season in lindsay's apartment and we ended this season in lindsay's apartment a very different situation full circle yeah wildly different and only wildly five days apart that's that's that's kind of crazy that's pretty fucking nuts when you put it that way not really because you know as it was pointed out it wasn't really December 30th, but when did they, they broke up in September. So they broke up September of last year. So it's like, you know, they broke up in November. No, no, no, no, not, not a Thanksgiving. Oh, Lindsay and Carl. Lindsay and Carl. Yeah.

All right, relax. And Rachel, we're just joking with you. We are, we're not being serious. But let's get to page. Let's finally finish the page and Craig's shit. So we don't have to talk about it ever again. Because I honestly, like, this was the big like cherry on top of the season. I didn't care. I did not care at all. But I do like to hear, you know, she's like, I feel bad because I actually feel good. And two days after we broke up, my dad called me and he was like, you know, I feel like you got your personality back. And it's something that she didn't even realize that she had changed. And Amanda's like, yeah, I noticed some changes as well with you.

So it's nice to see you kind of get back to your old self. Well, I like to think that we obviously, we knew what happened while we were watching Summer House. So we were focusing on certain aspects of who Page was and had certain conversations that she was having with other people. So we could see it. But I like to think that even if we didn't know that they broke up, we'd still be sitting here like, oh, yeah, I don't know. That's not. Yeah. And you can tell.

You can see the difference. Yeah, I think it was that apparent, even that the audience would be able to pick up on it. I do too, because I just remember watching Southern Charm. And like, we started to really pick up on stuff. And I know production was editing a certain way, but you. really started to see, like, a lot of cracks. So even if they tried to muscle through this one, it just would have been really uncomfortable.

Like, even if they had stayed together for another six to eight months and they didn't break up when we're watching that and we were so tired of talking about, will they, won't they, will they? We still would have been so uncomfortable. Like, oh, God, why do we have to watch this? It's just clearly not going to work. So I think we would have picked up on it. I agree.

But, like, the difference in the hand. of it from Craig to page everything she said I believe 100% yeah 100% I believe this is how it went down I do believe she tried to be as amicable about it as humanly possible I do believe that she reached a breaking point when he started being shady with it and even then she's yet to really like put him on blast she's answered some some questions to give the actual truth of what happened but at no point was she on the offensive trying to drag him she's just like this is fucking insane i do still hold on to the fact though when she texted him like hey you could clear this whole thing up about the cheating rumors i disagree with you oh you think he should have i i've

changed to agree with me i did but so what we had to work with was what craig had said and what the rest of the summer house crew had said on what dropped in the live i turned me so we were hearing that all this shit was going down on Reddit and people were talking about how Page was cheating on Craig and the whole issue was Craig wasn't going out there and defending her on Reddit. Craig wasn't going out there and putting shit out there. I think it would have been fine if he just put and we saw his whole story. We saw that whole breakdown where he's sitting on his stoop having some sort of heart to heart with Instagram talking about the whole breakup.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You could have said just mind, mind everybody's business. there was no cheating going on it wouldn't have broken anybody up like you guys already broke up you're getting back together you got me you'll have you shouldn't really have and you know who am i to say during a breakup if you should have animosity but like it doesn't it doesn't seem like there should be a lot of animosity at all and if something's going on right there you could put it to bed so quickly to text her back and say no i don't feel comfortable doing that right now is what he said i agree with you you flip me yeah because especially you brought up the instagram thing

If you can get on Instagram and give a monologue, you could at least throw in there. Like, by the way, nothing that there is going on. Yep. No cheating. So he's going to go. Yeah, because she protected him from texting other girls. Absolutely. You're right.

You are right. I am wrong. Nicely done. But the big question remains. The final question. Did he ever buy a ring? Probably. I think he did.

Dude, I think he bought a ring two years ago. and he's just fucking sitting on it. I don't know. I bet he did. But like, obviously the way that we've been talking about it. Yeah, Kyle Chan out in L.A. He's the only jeweler in the world.

He's the only jeweler that you can go to in the entire world. Yeah, Kyle Chan. I have no issues with Kyle Chan. It's just funny that he's always the jeweler. Yeah, no problems with him. Where'd you get this from Kyle Chan? Wait, is that a Chan? The way.

chan exclusive wait wait is that a chan god uh but like we've been talking about the uh the rings since the southern charm reunion that's when he brought it up and it is very funny that they picked cameras back up in southern charm and we got like a two and a half minute scene where it was just craig just saying that they broke up and shep and austin like yeah all right like that was that was one of the worst and then it was like hey i didn't tell you because you would have told everybody austin i can't trust you it's like well why is he catching astray Yeah, you're the other one who got broken up with. Leave me alone.

But with the ring specifically, it came up during Southern Charm. He said that he had bought it. The whole BravoCon thing, it just doesn't add up. Page would never, in a million years, want to get married at BravoCon or proposed to a BravoCon. Yeah, I didn't believe that one. Get that shit out of here. I really do. I bet you he's the type of guy that bought a ring like two years ago.

Like within the year of them dating said, this is my end all be all. We're going to be together forever. And he thought that it was going to be, I could see him doing this. Like, cute story. I knew you were the one. I bought a ring two years ago. And I've left it here, just waiting for the right moment. I think that now he's trying to say, like, I got a ring a couple of months ago.

I thought we were going to do it. I think he spun it a little bit. I agree with you wholeheartedly that he is that type. I don't think he ever did, though. I think that he got close. I think that he talked to jewelers. I don't think he pulled the trigger. And I think in that moment, that was a Hail Mary.

I wish you'd seen the ring first, just to see if he could, like, hook her and get her back. Such a bad move. Yeah, I mean, never going to work. But it didn't work. But, yeah, I don't know. We'll never get an actual answer to. They were breaking up, by the way, if we add all the time together, watching back, they've been breaking up for almost as long as they've been together. Adding in the editing factor and, like, how long it's taken for these shows to get out.

We've been dealing with the longest breakup in Bravo history. It's got to be at least two and a half years of watching TV and hearing rumors of them like, oh, they're not going to be together anymore. Ooh, no one's going to move to New York or Charleston. We had to do that song and dance for like two and a half years. They were together for what? That's what feels like three and a half, four years.

Oh, the whole song and dance. My God. Dude, yeah, the whole song and dance. We stopped talking about it for six months, remember? But like, that's when you can say the breakup was going to start because we knew immediately, this isn't going to fucking work. No, it doesn't make sense. We're going to root for them because we like them together and they seemed happy.

But as soon as we start talking about, will they, won't they? The breakup is already begun. Mm-hmm. Big facts. But that wraps up summer, which nicely done to the summer house cast. I'm looking forward to see what's in store for the cast. Oh, wait, I've got a question for you real quick. Oh, have you tried your wife's breast milk?

No. No, I've never tried breast milk. I'm just curious. Neither of I. Yeah, no, I wouldn't, like, shy away from it. It seems kind of intimate, you know? I think it depends on the setting. I don't think, you know.

Well, I mean, like, I'm not going to go to a friend's house and be like, hey, my baby's got some breast milk. Do you want to try it? Yeah, did I try? Well, no, that's actually been instances that I could have tried it, believe it or not, is like, I've gone to people's houses who just had a baby. They're like, you want to try some. I'm like, I don't need to drink your wife's breast milk. But I would, I mean, I'm not like, I would try it. I don't give it a shot.

Do you know there's like an entire black market for? it for bodybuilders i swear to god they swear by it because it was like i thought you were doing a chapelle skit which by the way is now you know much darker yeah no no oh yeah with the making the band yes to me no no no i was not but uh yeah there's like a whole black market for bodybuilders because they think it's like so much more packed with nutrients which it is but yeah they buy it off like you know the dark web god bodybuilders are always right that's what they say that's what they all say yeah these muscles can't lie yep that's that's what they say uh it's like abraham lincoln these muscles don't lie uh let's get to some questions from our audience

uh so you guys think of some questions fire away we got a 10 second delay here so we'll just sit here and look pretty in the meantime are you on top would you try it at your next live show breast milk uh uh no you put me on the spot maybe that i'll come to the live show we'll figure it out oh god here we go from ryan stoneman shooter are you ready for daniel to be back for summer in the city fuck no i like no just now well that puts an end of that right uh from tk what do you think the big reveal is in the reunion now that we watch the finale i think it's the summer in the city I think they're going to say that there's a new show coming with the cast.

Yeah, it has to be. I also, like, I know that it gets some buzz and people start talking about it. If you've got a big reveal, don't tell us that there's a big reveal. I hate it. It's like the seven-minute preview the week before. I was like, just fucking let us, let us be surprised. God damn it, in this day and age, we're not allowed to be surprised anymore. Everyone's got a spoil.

From Zoe Cud de Palais, if Gabby doesn't give credit for mediocrity, does she not get credit for the last three seasons damn hell yeah i have nothing to add to that yeah enough said well done zoe bravo nice work we'll do two more two more uh from renay oh wrong one rene edie who is your season rankings for top three and bottom three Ooh, top three Top three is going to be tougher Honestly top three Kyle Amanda Lindsay

Which is great I could throw Paige In number three Page's had her moment I'm just done I'm giving it back to the OGs Amanda definitely I think it's number one For me just because she had such a delightful

It was nice to see her Like be happy for a whole summer That was cool Kyle I'm gonna get Lindsay number one Pregnant the whole summer And still delivering Yeah, Lindsay did great.

I mean, it was a great summer, really. I mean, the bottom three, you got to go, Jesse, Lexi, Gabby. Yeah, that would be the bottom three for me. But yeah, the top three, mood of thunk, Kyle and Amanda. Right. Back in the saddle. From Casey Wright, after watching the season, do you think Lexi will go after Sierra at the reunion or will the girls gang up against Jesse?

They're definitely not going to gang up against Jesse. they're definitely not going to gang up against Jesse unless they watch the season back and like that's the only saving grace if they watch it back and go oh yeah that looks a lot worse than we thought it was but I don't see a gang up happening I think unfortunately the gang up's going to happen on Lexi I think Lexi's going to be on the lodge no because I think what's going to happen is she's going to get into it with Sierra and then the rest of the crew is just going to rally behind Sierra yeah yeah and then Jesse won't have to lift a finger exactly

then he's going to have to sit there and just like that's my that's my Jesse that was good that was really good thank you appreciate it

let's do one more Susan Flower says there's nothing to go after Sierra four I would imagine it's something along the lines of because we saw a clip where Sierra says

you dragged me into this and that might be responded with well I watched the season you were flirting with him too yeah and then it snowballs to the girls saying well that's because you weren't friends with us and then everything blows up yeah we'll do one more if anyone's got a great one anybody should do the thumbs up again what are you doing what do you mean what is that line up with oh you're trying to touch it over what's something

are you on your screen? Oh, my camera's flipped. Ah, there you go. Sorry, it's that way, yeah. Yeah, no, see, yeah. Nope. I was like, what are you? Because you're pointing the other way.

Yeah, that's why I was confused as to what was happening. Yeah, you're pointing, you're off. Yeah. Way off. That makes more sense. Here we go. Last one from a really, Billy Big Deals. Oh, Triple B.

I do that every time. It's not Triple B. It's BBD. Billy Big Deals. Are you recapping a Mormon? Lives. Episode one drops tomorrow. We've recorded it this morning. Yes, absolutely. We're doing Mom Talk. We love Mom Talk. I can't wait to finish this season out. I already watched the first three, and I'm usually takes me a while to catch up. So yeah, we will be dropping all of our Mormon wives episodes throughout the next couple of weeks because Hulu refuses to release things week to

week. So we have to cram it all in because then it becomes irrelevant. So thanks Hulu for that. So if you guys want to start spamming Hulu and saying, hey, it is make this a weekly release. That would be great for us. Yep. That would be great. And yes, we're going to finish Vila as well. That's going to be more sporadic. But yeah, because we love Villa too.

And we think Villa deserves more respect. Yeah, I already finished Villa. And yes, we're going to cover Love Island too. We have to, we're still working out how that's going to work. But we're going to do. Yeah. But we're going to do it. You know what?

We have two weeks here to figure this one out. So, you know. Because we love you hang in there. Yeah, just hang in there while we try to wrap our brains around how we're going to schedule all this. But we'll figure it out. We always do. Don't worry. But anyway, thank you all for coming out.

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