Bros & Shows - Teresa and Joe's Last Dance- (RHONJ Reunion pt. 3 Full Recap, RHOC Full Recap)

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

What's up Bro's? It is our first dive into RHOC. The girls are getting ready for Gina's Flamingo Party. The main topic of conversation is Tamra and Shannon. Once close friends, the two have since had a falling out. From our vantage point, both sides have some owning up to do but we see them have multiple non constructive conversations. Emily and some of the other ladies believe its time for the two of them to simply move on. Meanwhile, we get a look into Jenn's life as she opens up about fostering and adoption. Then, We tie a bow on Jersey this week with a reunion that consisted of a whole lotta nothing. Teresa and Louie seem to have finally split forever from Joe and Melissa. But the star of this episode was John Fuda. When its his turn to talk he calls out Louie for his shady behaviors with a whole lot of proof to back it up. Louie continues to backtrack on stories and present some half truths. Is this finally the end of Joe and Teresa? Time Stamps: RHOC (15:39) RHONJ (41:47) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Steele Russell, joined, as always, by the one and only scoot, boot, boogie. What's up, dude?

Not a lot. We're officially in what I like to call the dog days of no sports. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Both finals ended hockey and basketball, so we just have baseball, and you know what that means? Steele and I are going to dive deep into Bravo, and honestly, this might be the most focus that we ever are. Yeah, which is, it's good because we have new shows coming out.

We have two shows that we've never watched before. being Atlanta, which we reviewed this week already. I do feel like we're getting a better handle on it. And then O.C., which this is my first dive into O.C. We know some of the characters. I definitely didn't know all of the characters. I love calling them characters. Yeah, well, they are characters.

But I've had a fun week. Poppy's here. We're going up to the mountains this weekend. I think you're going down to the shore. Sure am. So those are the two Philly options, by the way. You're either a lake mountain person or you're a shore person. I have always been a lake mountain person.

I like that as a bit of a change. up, but, I mean, there are some people that just stay in the city and they like being in the city. It's just too damn hot. Yeah. I don't know what it is. Like the sun reflecting off of the big buildings with the windows. It just gets so damn hot down there and sweaty. I just don't want to be anywhere near it.

That's my reasoning for not wanting to be in the city in the summer. I was talking about the lake and the shore. Yeah, I know. I wanted to get something off my chest. Anyway, yeah. Just taking a dig at city people. Well, no. So I actually, I just found out, and I think this is probably going to piss off a lot of people, but you know this about me.

It's country fest down the shore this weekend. And Wildwood. Yeah, so it's like Blake Shelton and Darius Rocker, which I actually like those too. But Kid Rock is performing on Sunday night, and I can't imagine a place that I'd rather not be than on the beach for a kid rock concert. Maybe it would be kind of funny to see Kid Rock and kind of reminisce on his songs that if he plays up in his old catalog. I would like, what was the song? I want to be a cow boy, like that shit. He does have some box.

I'm not going to lie, but I feel like he's probably just going to do the Pledge of Allegiance the entire time. More than likely. Yeah. Just play that one. But I typically don't, and this is sort of, there's a lot of things that I don't like because of the fans. I don't like country because of the fans for the most of. Wow. Okay.

You don't like me then. Not, you're different. Why? Like there are, obviously there's people in separate groups that are tolerable and they don't force it down your throat. And it's not like their whole personality. It's such a funny stance that you're taking with country music and people shove a down your throat in all of my experiences country music fans are you're from texas pushy about no the funny thing is when i tell people or if i'm listening to country music

the reactions that i get from people like if i'm at the gym by myself i will play country music and people walk in and they elicit such an angry response it's crazy to me that people are like oh my god what is this shit but if i walk into a room then someone's playing a genre of music i don't like that you don't say a goddamn word i also don't like those people. But there's so many of those people. Yeah, my bone to pick with that is there are a lot of country people that they make it their whole personality.

I also have an issue with people that love the office and make it their whole personality. There's just people out there that will take one thing, one pop culture thing, and make it all about themselves, and I hate those people. And that's kind of why I don't like country. If other people play it, like if you play it and we're golfing, I'll enjoy it

because it's nice to be outside listening to some easy music. Do I think it's the simplest of music? Yes, absolutely. You just talk about your truck and your dog and your ex-wife and you're good. It's the stupidest fucking argument. I could write a country song right now. Not the shit that I listen to. Okay.

No. The stuff that I was doing is good music. No, you haven't because I don't play it around you because you're an asshole about it. You're like, oh, here we go. Fucking country. You're sitting here acting like, oh, if we're on the golf course, he doesn't say, don't let him spin this narrative for you folks at home. When we're on the golf course and country music's playing, he makes jokes, he makes jokes,

and he talks shit about it. And then I put on email music. And then he puts on fallout boy, which, look, I'm not shit. on fallout boy or emo music for the right time and place absolutely if i'm sitting chilling it's a nice day and i want to listen to fucking i'm not going to say zach brian because everybody listens to him now but if i want some whiskey mires playing whiskey mires is great fucking music and if you don't like that no i like it if i'm sitting with you and it's on that's fine no because not you're fucking you've been watching too much housewives you've been

watching too much housewives because now you're spinning narrative i would have done this two years ago no no no no no you know me i would have done this two years ago you know i would have done this Two years ago. And you just talk shit about it. Yeah. You talk shit about country meals. Don't sit here and act like you don't. The people.

I am a people and I hate you. Well, anyway, so yeah, there's two weekends that I hate down the shore. It's that, and it's Jeep weekend. Jeep people are way worse. That one all gets. Okay. If you're a Jeep person, yes. I can get on board with this.

You can own a Jeep and be fine. It's the damn Jeep wave. I had one bit. I had a bit last summer where I started waving to people that had jeeps and they were mad about it. Oh, because you're not part of the club. You're not part of the club. You don't have a Jeep. You can't wave to me.

You know which one? You know which one I hate? What? If, oh, the bumper sticker that's upside down, have you seen these on jeeps? I don't think so. On the jeeps that they deck out with, like, the big tires and the roll bars and, like, the exhaust thing that allows you to drive in water. They can go in the water. Yeah, exactly.

There's a lot of times they have an upside down bumper sticker and says, if you can read this, help. Because they flip this. Oh, that's pretty funny. It's not. Don't give them credit. No, I like that one. That's leaning into it because it's like, hey, but at the end of the day,

it's really not that good of a car. So, whatever. I hope that we have a huge Jeep following. I probably just offended so many people. I offended so many people in that last segment. By the way, I had a Grand Cherokee. Great car. Great car.

Guess what I didn't have. Bumper stickers. Guess what I didn't do. The wave. It's three fingers, right? I have no idea. I think it's a three-figure way. Yeah, I don't think I can even do that.

Is it those three? I think it's these three. It's almost like a Scouts Honor kind of deal. Or is that two? I don't know. I think we've spent too much time talking about Jeeps. Yeah, I think it's this.

I think you just do that. Is it this right here? We used to do that in high school, though. So we were Jeepel in high school. We didn't know it. We didn't have Jeeps in high school. But yeah. That's the end of my rant.

Yeah, no. Well, you went after country music and Jeeps. Jeeps, I can get on board. We lost 6,000 listeners in the span of five minutes of a stupid rant. But anyway, let's get to the reason that you're all here. It's not to listen to me and him bicker. Or maybe it is.

Some people do enjoy that. But let's get to the reason. on to the news. Kim Zolsiak is coming back to Atlanta, which is wild given all of the things going on with her. We don't know the Atlanta cast that well, but if you follow any

Bravo account, you'll see that her and her husband have gotten divorced during the process of doing so. She has an alleged gambling problem. She's apparently losing all of her money. Apparently she went to Bravo and was like begging for a job pretty much to stay afloat. Now, I wonder

if they're bringing her back because Andy wants her back, or did Andy actually have a sympathetic moment where he's like, all right, you know what, I'll throw you a bone, I'll help you out. Well, it's interesting because when, like, we get a lot of comments about going back and watching things, and people have been a little more respectful. They're just saying, go back to, say, like, the Africa trip and start from there, which is only a few seasons. That is helpful.

I like that. But a lot of those comments said, you got to see Kim on the show. Like, that's what you need to see. So I am interested to see it because we like Atlanta. We really enjoy it. And obviously, this is our first forier into this. So next year, if she comes back, if it's next year or the year after, I'm excited to see it because people have kind of talked it up.

Yeah, I'm excited to see it too, to give credit to our listeners that listen to Wednesday. The comments are much more constructive on our lack of a history with Atlanta. And the constructive ones help. If you give us specifics, we will check into specifics. If you say loosely, you guys need to go back and watch season two through 10. It's like, well, we can't. So give us specifics. We will read them.

We'll read your opinions. If you want to chat with us about it, who was it? Jared Barnes, who's been a long-time follower of ours, has his own podcast now, too, if you want to go check that out. But Jared sent us some messages today, and it was explaining, it was like a paragraph, but it was explaining a situation with Marlowe and, like, why Marlowe feels the way she does, because she is not accepted by the group as, like, a full-time housewife.

This is something he was referring to. Extraordinarily helpful to have stances and opinions so we can understand the dynamic of the group. That's what we need. We don't need a hateful comment. Like, you guys are lazy and don't want to put the work in. Like, we were so hard. Yeah.

They're like, if you really want to do this full time, you would care enough to go back and watch. Was it, Jared? There was another guy who was tweeting at us saying, yeah, I listen to the Brab Bros. Really liked their show. And I think there was another show that he really liked as well. And he said that he decided to start a podcast because we made it sound so easy. And then I think it took him a couple episodes to realize it is not easy. No, and he gave us props.

He gave us props. That is Jared. That is Jared. Okay. Yeah, surprisingly, it is not that easy. We don't just sit down and go talking right away. We put a lot of work into this. A lot.

It's a whole lot. And we also have full-time jobs outside of this. No. We're working on that part. And maybe we can watch seasons two through eight. If we do this full-time, we'll go back and watch everything because that's the dream. If I can wake up what I want to, watch Bravo and talk shit about it with you and then just edit and then cook food on the side. That is the dream.

That's my life. I want that to be my life. We'll golf in between there? Hell yeah. Golf? Fuck, yeah. So that's our... Shut out U.S. Open.

That's our goal. Here's our life plan, our vision board, if you will. We just shared it with you. But let's get into our Rosen Thorn because we got the final Jersey reunion up to discuss, and it's a doozy. So I'm going to start us off because these two comments together are possibly up there with my...

This is a top three Rosen Thorn for me. So as you know, we had a little wildfire fallout last week the wildfires in Canada sent smoke down this way and we made some jokes obviously we understand it's a wildfire it's a serious thing and we're not making light or supporting wildfires like yeah i think we took the stance against wildfires we are anti wildfire here at the brab bros and no one can tell you different because i'm saying it right now clearly we were making a couple jokes about the smoke being a pain in the ass and it was kind of intended to be ironic because in the grand scheme of wildfire if you have to deal with smoke and not the fire

there's irony there. That was the goal. Yeah. It was in jest. But one person got it. And I'm going to start with the rose because this is funny. It's from a Canadian fan. And it literally says titled Canadian fan from Sad Jojo. Sorry about

the fires and the emoji, like the shrug emoji. Like three of those guys. Like, oh, sorry, guys. So I thought that was funny because it was juxtaposed to this one, which is even better. From Hunter and Olive on YouTube. Quote, these assholes up there have to push their wind down here end quote is without question the dumbest fucking quote of ever heard you morons are the largest contributor to climate change if you don't like

wildfire smoke stop being the most irresponsible nation on earth jackasses stopped watching there by and i commented back you spelled asshole wrong because she used a zero which is hysterical because in this comment she tried to like soften asshole for sure with a zero but goes on to Soften asshole. Everyone likes a softened asshole, but goes on to say fucking and spells fucking F-U-C-K-I-N-G. So why would you soften an asshole and then drop a hard F-bomb in there? And also, why do you think that we actually think Canada's to blame for sending smoke our way? Come, you didn't get the joke.

I mean, we could have sung the South Park Blame Canada. We really wanted to. I should have put that in the intro. That would have been really good. Well, you know what? We got what was coming to us anyway because our interstate collapsed on itself. So, there we go. Yeah, 95 blew up.

So you can make fun of us now, even though neither of us used 95 anymore. I actually, this was a good week for me. I have two roses and one thorn. I'm going to start off with the thorn. Actually, no, I'm going to sandwich. No, no, no. Save the one rose for the last one, because I know what it is. And you know what?

That might be in all time. We might have to get it framed. And when we set up our studio, that one might have to be. You definitely know which one it is. Yep. So I'm going to start off with my thorn. This one came from YouTube. Watching two men sitting like schlumps, sitting sadly with baseball caps on backwards,

is really effing sad. Schlumps. Look, I'm not going to make any excuses for myself, but Jesus Christ, steel is an actual personal trainer. So him being called a schlump is really funny, objectively. And also, screw you, buddy. Yeah. We're having a good time over here.

Yeah, we're having a great time. You know what the funniest part is? We get paid to sit like slumps on this couch while you're sitting there commenting for free, helping our algorithm go higher and make more money. You know what? If I want to sit like a slump and ruin my back, that's on me, buddy. I don't need to be chastised for that. Don't posture.

Don't posture shame. And then my first rose comes from Jess's crabby. Oh my God, do I have a crush on a guy nicknamed Rudy McTudy? Yes, yes, I do. Hell yeah, Jess. You sure do. And that's great because this leads me right into my next one. This is a review we got.

I'm going to hear this for the rest of my life. And it's titled, Shooter has BDE. For those of you who don't know, that's big dick energy. Hell yeah. It needs to be said. That comes from Rog analog. I don't, you know, whatever. Yeah.

Whatever. You're not to read the name that gave you BDE. I can't read the name, so I just move on. Rather than what you do where you stammer and try to like read the name. Oh, you're a coward. Yeah, probably. You're a fucking coward. You're a weasel.

You got to suffer through it. That's the game. Rogan-a-log? Rogin-a-log? Oh, not that fucking easy, is it? You selfish, son of a-O-N-A-L-G. It doesn't make any sense. But neither way.

No, hold on. I get so much shit for this, and you just, you move on. Lost over. Yeah, you should do that. No, because I stand by my laurels. I will stick it out, and I will get through the fucking name out of respect. There's standing by your laurels, and there's resting on your laurels. You stand on them.

I stand by my laurels. Okay. Did I say it wrong? Here's the thing. The more you guys comment things like that, the more it's going to go to my head. And I really don't know what's going to happen because my head is very large, physically and theoretically. Metaphorically. Metaphorically.

And, yeah, I don't, you know. He doesn't need it anymore, guys. Keep on going, baby. Do the influencer shit, the pseudo-celebrity shit. The BDE is the nail in the coffin. Yeah. You shouldn't have said that one. I'm giving him.

because that's a good compliment. You guys don't know what you just did. You have no idea what you do when you feed this man's ego. You make my life a lot more difficult because I try to humble him and it's getting next to impossible. Yeah, yeah, you're shit out of luck there, buddy.

Yeah, so thanks a lot, you assholes. That takes us to Rosie, OC. We are in Orange County for the first time ever. I've never watched this show. know some of the cast only because of Ultimate Girls' trip, and we just hear a lot about this cast. It's the OG franchise. It was the first Real Housewives out there. So out of respect, we need to dive into it. And a lot of our listeners, you guys are enjoying this season. So I know we're only two Eps in, but we are diving into it. Kne-jerk reaction. What do you think? I know how I felt going into it. I wasn't super optimistic.

But after watching a couple episodes, where do you stand? I don't really like it that much. Not a fan? I'm being honest, yeah. No, I don't know. It's not for the normal reasons. It's not, I don't feel like it's overly fabricated. Maybe it's because I don't understand the relationships yet and kind of their history, which, again, I mean, usually we can kind of hit the ground running in a lot of these franchises and understand pretty much right away and kind of stand behind one person.

I don't dislike any of them either. I just can't really put my, oh, yeah, I, all right, that's fair. I'll take that one back. I just can't really put my thumb on why I don't like it. It just didn't seem that entertaining. I was pretty bored throughout the episode. Maybe it'll pick up. I hope it picks up because we kind of need it.

But first reaction, first two episodes, I really wasn't that into it. I like this week towards the end of the show. I thought it got interesting enough, enough to make me want to continue watching. And I think that this is an important franchise. This is one that they need to figure out how to revoke. that they've been trying to, and if they can figure it out and try to, like, I feel like across the board, they're testing ways to make these shows better and bring them into this next generation. Now, are they doing it the right way? If New York does well with the whole new cast,

do you think they'll do that nice? Because I think that's part of the problem is there's a reason why this show went downhill, and it doesn't look like they're doing enough. They're just bringing back. They're bringing back people from, and flying Taylor in, even though I guess she lives in O.C. now. But yeah, I think that's part of it. It just seems a little stale. Yeah. There's not enough to sink my teeth into. I think in regards to the Roney comment, I do

think that if that is successful, even remotely so, like if it does well enough to garner a second season, I think that's going to shake up the landscape of every show. I think that opens the door to a lot of possibilities. I think that their sweet spot is going to be figuring out

how to tie in OGs with newbies without it being a six to two ratio of old heads to newbies. Like, I think once they figure out how to tie in some of the legacy cast members correctly and without shoving them down our throat. I think you just have to pick in shoes. I mean, we see it on Jersey. They put into newbies, and they just get immediately overshadowed by the bullshit that we were dealing with.

They did all right. The newbies in a vacuum did great. Yeah. But the rest of the show overshadows it because, I mean, we don't care about what's going on in Jersey anymore. We're tired of it. So it's hard for them to shine. I think in OC, you could probably do that because, yeah, Tamara's back and she's making a big stink out of things and trying to kind of rev it up. And I actually, I didn't really like her too much in Ultimate Girl's Trip.

I thought she was pretty good here. She was great in this second episode. And I understand why they brought her back because they definitely need her. The rest of the cast seems a little stale, but they got it. They seem rude. They do seem rude. And maybe that's just a California thing, honestly. I don't know.

You get it in Beverly Hills. I mean, they're mean to each other sometimes, but they don't seem rude. they don't seem stuck up. They seem pretty down to earth, especially with the new people that have come in over the last couple of years. A lot of this crew seems like they don't have time for other people. Yeah, which is weird.

That's kind of what I was getting, because they kind of like check out of things that they just walk off in the middle of conversations. They interrupt each other. And I'm like, that's just like mean instead of just like sitting through it. But let's just dive into it. Up first, we get Emily, Jen, and Gina is coming to meet them at lunch.

And got to give props to Gina. We got another sober person in the house. She's Cali Sober, but she's sober all the same. Love you, Cali Sober. Props to you, Gina, well done. But we learn a little bit about the past of Jen, who is a newbie. And she met her new man while she was still married, but says that the marriage had fizzled out, that they were sleeping in separate room. She met this guy.

They had something, but they were never intimate with one another. And then it blossomed into something more once she was divorced. She claimed she never even held hands with the guy. It is an emotional affair, which Emily commented. and so on and says, I would rather my man, like, step out with cinnamon from the strip club night and it just be a one-off thing. Yeah, emotional affairs are definitely a little deeper. It doesn't make me jaded towards Jen because I don't know Jen at all, but I appreciate

the fact that she can be open about it, I guess, that we were kind of learning about all of her shit, like, right out of the gate. And that might be a defense mechanism, too, because she knows it could be used against her later. So maybe just a possibility. I mean, that would be a lot of, that would be a veteran move for a newbie. But, I mean, we can give her credit for that. And here's why, because Gina's like, well, I heard you had an affair.

And she stands by. She's like, I did have an affair. But you didn't do anything with him. She's like, no, I mean, I was talking to the man every day. Right, right. So for her to take credit. The self-awareness is always key for these shows. We love self-awareness here.

We love the self-awareness. And, I mean, my biggest thing from this conversation and just generally speaking, what the hell is it? What do you have to live in an O state to get a soda with your drink? Oh, if it's a Midwestern thing, she claims. Ohio is not really, I don't know, whatever. Ohio's definitely Midwest.

That stuck out to me and they're like, oh, yeah, you're from Ohio. I'm from Oklahoma. We do the same thing. We get Diet Coke's when we get our drinks. I don't get that. In Ohio, they call it pop. I got kind of stuck on that. Of course you did.

End up, getting stuck on the little things. It was interesting for a starting scene for this episode to kind of get into that. And obviously we need to know more about Jen. And I thought it was a pretty good start to the, episode and obviously we're not going to go deep into the first episode we might reference it the first episode just didn't hit at all for me no same but what it did for me was give me preamble i guess i guess yeah and that's kind of what this scene did for me was kind of build up a little bit so that we know the background for a lot of these yeah exactly but the main talk is they're having this

pink flamingo party or a flamingal party which you know i love a good a good pun so i thought that was funny flamingo it comes out later that a flamingal is actually an awkward party where you feel the need to stand on one leg because you're so uncomfortable. So I thought that was funny as well. But moving on from there, we get a quick check in at Heather's house as getting her daughter packed for college with everything that you could ever need for all four years of college. When I went to college,

I packed up a bunch of random shit. My mom did hook it up. I think she went to IKEA when we were in Ohio, which is funny. I went to Ohio State, so we're referencing Ohio. Ha ha ha. Go buck guys.

But that was the most. ridiculous amount of stuff I've ever seen to move your child into college, especially if that's a freshman year. With a micro fridge, which by the way, doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It sounds dangerous to me, but it also sounds like radiation poisoning to me. It does a little bit, but my thing is every dorm that I ever stayed in came with a microwave and a fridge. In the actual dorm room? Yeah. Oh, no, that's not typical. Oh, just that's Ohio State. That's just Ohio State. The Ohio State, yeah. So, yeah, that was one of the things that, like, when we went to college, you always figure out, all right, who's my

roommate one person brings the TV one person brings a fridge that's kind of like the general rule of thumb there oh no we just bought it with our quote unquote meal money oh there you go um so i think that because i watch this on peacock i may have watched the you know how they do like the never before scene whatever i did i watch that one too okay so i was really confused that they were dropping in the future like in the next scene you're going to find out that Heather doesn't really like comfort oh yeah that right i don't give a shit it reminded me a blind date yeah that's a really good point yeah pop up and be like, Tony doesn't like goldfish and they're eating goldfish. That brings back a lot of memories.

But yeah, no, it was, that was a stay home from school sick and blind date was playing like on repeat. Yeah. And that was, that gave me a little bit of insight into the show at least because they do have a good amount of family values. So while, you know, we pointed out that the women when they're together will kind of just cut each other off and start talking about other things and be completely rude. to each other. We do get the family values, which we get a much better scene a little bit later

with Jen. And I thought it was a good start. And again, we don't know a whole lot about these women going into it. I don't want to harp on it. This will probably be the last time that we mention it. But I do like that she's openly discussing things with her family and having a good time. It gives a good mood for the rest of the episode. Yeah. Yeah. The little things matter a lot for us but she has a face time with Tamara and Shannon which leads to the next scene of Tamara and Shannon finally sitting down together they used to be very close they had since had a falling out when Simon was having chemo tamara claims that Shannon was originally therefore checked in with her and just kind of fizzled out and then was just ghosting her pretty much now right

when they have this conversation Shannon says I did I texted you I checked it and Tamara says okay maybe a couple of times I know right well that's that's different than go That's not the same thing at all. So that made me immediately question what actually was going on. But then Tamara immediately like flips it and goes, yeah, but you're just fake. Like you weren't there for me. And Shannon's like, you were talking shit. And they play a clip from the podcast.

And yeah, she was. She called her neurotic. She called her crazy. She called her a drunks. She said she had like a substance abuse problem. Like those are big claims to make. And then I thought it was funny. And it was like a throw into the face of Tamara because after that moment, Shannon orders

a drink. So they may get a double belvedere with some limes in it. She started off by not getting a drink. She just wanted a water because it was too damn hot. And my issue leading into this scene was, like you said, Heather had FaceTime both of them. Tamara on the FaceTime said, you know, I'm a little nervous. I don't really know what to expect. Heather said it looks like you guys want two different things because I just talked to Shannon and I don't really know.

Would you say that to somebody if they were nervous about going to meet like a mutual friend? No. Like, hey, I know you're nervous. But she also wants something completely different. And so good luck with that, buddy. No. It seems like Heather doesn't really want them to actually be friends. Maybe she just wants to poke them a little bit.

Maybe she wants to poke them a little bit. I took it two different ways, either that or maybe she knows better. It could just be one of those situations where she is close enough to Shannon. She's close enough to Tamara. She understands that they're never really going to be aligned and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for them to be friends. So she might just be kind of like pushing that a little bit to try to keep them a separate. But at the end of the day, I mean, we will always applaud two women, three women, and however many that want to sit down

and actually talk about their issues because it's good for us as the audience to see it and it also kind of gets a lot of things out there without other people interjecting. So I'll always applaud two people just sitting down having lunch and discussing their issues. Firmly agree.

This did not go that way. It was a lot of finger-pointing and blaming the other person and it ends with an awkward like, well, let's just try to figure this out. And it's funny, I put it in quotes, because we hear this specific verbatim quote in every single

franchise. Let's move forward and see. Like, if we, let's just move forward and see if we can figure this out. Like, everybody that has a feud at some point will sit down with whoever they're feuding with. They won't accomplish anything during the conversation and they'll end the conversation with, you know what, we're adults, we can move forward. We'll figure this out. Let's just, let's just, you know, give each other some space and, like, we'll start slow. I think that's so hard to accomplish on these shows when they do that because you have to film together. You're going to be around. Like, yes, you might be able to take six months off from a friendship and let, you know, let things go because time will heal it.

But when you're filming a show that you have to be around each other, you're never going to be able to get that space. You're never going to be able to move away from it. And obviously, you're going to want a storyline. So if you have nothing going on, you're probably going to poke that there. So we see it time and time again. And we also see, and we talked about this before, before Tamer came back to OC, obviously she has that podcast.

We've heard her talk countless shit, just randomly just trying to get like a news headline or whatever drumming up interest in the podcast and she was talking shit on everybody she just started talking shit on teresa even though she was cool with teresa a couple of months ago so that doesn't surprise me at all and i'm actually happy that shannon has clips and she knows verbatim what you've said about me on this podcast it's not right you shouldn't be talking shit especially a housemate doing that but if you listen to t's teddy makes up shit yep tamra makes up shit like they've been known to people have reached out to us about it like it seems to be a common theme so i wanted to start talking shit on us let's start oh yeah a little feud between two

t's i'll take that smoke all day absolutely bring it but i will say while i didn't like this scene i enjoyed tamer for what she was bringing to the episode don't don't like her specifically as a person didn't care for shannon really no i'm in the same boat but moving on we got a quick check with Jen and her family and it is a really cool story of what she's done for fostering kids and she ended up adopting Dominic and hearing that story also what that did for me was like oh hey Fuda this is how you talk about adoption this is how you talk about like family stuff like this is a very heartwarming story it's not like dragging the people that that were Dominic's parents prior it's just talking about her experiences with the kid and like informing us the viewer

So props to you, Jen, I will say I have a different tune about the food is overall after watching the third part of the reunion. So I'm not going to go in as hard with that. But I like the scene. And the next thing I want to talk about, we're at Cut Fitness, which is Tamara's gym. Yes. It's been open for 10 years. They can't maintain it. She blames just the climate of the world right now.

It's just impossible for small businesses. She does have a point. It's a really tough time to be a small business owner. But the gym was an important part of her life. she's closing it down. She's talking to her husband about it. And Emily sends her a text, which she really appreciated because I don't know if they're that close.

Yeah, it doesn't see. It seems like they had a bit of a falling out. Apparently Tamara called her Shrek multiple times. Again, Tamara's fault. See, there's a pattern here, guys. But yeah, I thought that was really nice. I thought that was Emily being the bigger person. And even though, yeah, you might disagree.

You might have a feud going on. You might not really be that close. but again, if somebody that you're working with and you have to see all the time is going through something emotional which this is emotional and you know that Tamara's going through it emotionally reach out just say hey

you know you did a great job 10 years is nothing to balk at I think she said and I wish you the best and move on to the next chapter of your life and Tamara actually received it well which was good to see and that's kind of the good thing that we want to see however she immediately spins it

as I think it would be nice if Shannon could do something like that How'd Shannon do that? One, why would Shannon do that? Two, that takes away from Emily texting you. If you immediately think, like, hey, this person who I don't really see eye to eye with is reaching out in a nice way to kind of comfort me, that's really nice. Leave it there.

That's it. You don't have to spin it into, it would be nice if this other person did it because then it discredits what Emily did. You can't just immediately compare it to something that someone else did not do because that's not fair to Emily. So if I'm Emily and I'm watching that, I'm like, oh, what the fuck? Well, then why did I take the time to do that? I could have just not texted her.

And she probably wouldn't have said a word. She's still so focused on the Shannon thing. And she can't get over it, which is really my only sticking point with Tamara. Yes, she puts her foot in her mouth and she talks shit on people that really don't deserve it most of the time. I don't really like Shannon, but she is so fixated on this Shannon thing. I hope we can move past it in the next couple of episodes because it could be tiring. I think we will move on. It seems like one of those is going to be like a quick touch and go.

I don't think they're going to try to drag it out for the season because it's not entertaining enough already. So I hope that they don't, like, latch up. on to that one. But moving on, we get Emily and Shane driving. And the only thing I need to say here is that Emily wanted to stop on the way back for a Taco Bell burrito. Fuck, yeah, we love that. Love a little tea bell. I'll do a free plug for Taco Bell real quick. What's your go-to-a-tale real quick? What's your number one food item from there? I haven't been to Taco Bell in years. That's disgraceful. I know. Why? I don't know. Have you ever had a cheesy gordita crunch? Yeah, absolutely. We used to get them in high school after drinking all night. We would go to

main line and go pick up because Taco Bell was up until three. And we would have our sober. By the way, we'd have our sober friend. Mike Rhodes was our sober friend who would drive us over. Always drive us over to Taco Bell, a bunch of drunk assholes in the back of his car, and we would eat like six cheesy gordy to crunches. We would take Georgia Suburban. Yeah, we'd take Georgia's suburban.

We'd eat a ton of them on the way. We'd eat three on the way home and have three when we got back to wherever the hell we were sleeping, and then eat the leftovers and maybe have one for breakfast. I would, oh, I would definitely have this soggy, like it's kind of stuck to the wrapper the next morning. I would shovel that in my face. And then if it was Saturday, we we would probably pop it off and drink.

I assume that's still an option, so that's my go-to-it-crumch, for sure, is the number one fast food item on the planet, and you can't tell me different. But that takes us to the boat. And overall, decent boat trip for us, the viewers. It was a good scene. And like, this is why I'm hopeful for the season.

I enjoyed the second half, the beginning. And I think here's what I think, why we're both not like, oh, this is good. You're right. When it's, it's a lot easier with some of these other franchises to kind of pinpoint what's happening and, like, jump in without a whole lot of background because you can pick up on Atlanta's been tough and OC's been tough, which is interesting that we're doing them both simultaneously.

But it's harder for me with this one to pick up on the nuances so far. I don't know if there's nuances. I just get the vibe that these women aren't really friends at all. Oh, that's another interesting. So there's not enough to really share. I mean, yes, they're friendly. You get to see when Emily goes over to Gina's house because she has to kind of, kind of take over the party for her they seem friendly it seems like they have a good rapport

they might actually be friends but the rest of them there's no real other dynamic there's nothing else being shared so really again the only thing that we can focus on is tamar losing her cool and then shannon hearing it and then so on and so forth so again i i hope that it's just us being new to the show i hope it's just that and maybe we can pick up a couple more things as we go along but i think it's just a little dull right now because they're not really friends that's an interesting point but this is when the caddy shit starts and that this is what i don't like because it's not fun it's not fun drama tamara's thanking emily for her text which i thought was good of her to like make a point to do that yeah while they're having like a heart to heart about cut which is

obviously going to be a sensitive subject for tamara emily is being very sympathetic she's giving her prop she's building her up right now in a moment where she needs it Heather just like interrupts and gets up because is there a penthouse guys i know you're having like a hard target Tamery about to cry, but is there a penthouse? I'm going to go upstairs. I'm going to go upstairs. Is that even called the penthouse? No, it's not called a penthouse.

It's not. What's it called? I don't know, but it's... The bridge. Yeah, it's a bridge. It's probably where the captain is. Yeah, that's the bridge. It's not a penthouse.

It's up above you. There's only one room in this boat seemingly. So no, it's not a fucking penthouse. But to take the time to cut the conversation off, it was weird. But then I figured out later, that seems to be a pattern with this crew. Because immediately, you know, Shannon arrived. Taylor arrives, and I love that Taylor is presented as Tamara's friend. Yes.

He looked at the little caption on the screen. But she asks, Tamara asks, Jen, hey, can you share with us this story about adopting Dominic? Because it's a pretty amazing thing that you've done, fostering children, adopting children. We want to hear about it. It's heartwarming. She starts talking about a very emotional subject, something that I personally want to hear, something that a lot of these women want to hear. And Shannon's like, is that John's son? Is that John's son out there?

Hey, hey, Heather. Is that Johnson out there? Jim? Is that Jim? Jim? Like, what are you doing? Passing by boat, there's no chance. I mean, even if it was.

Who cares? Who cares? What are you going to do? Yeah, just give a wave and move on. What are you going to, like, segue into a conversation about the boat that you went on? Like, no. And she just, she keeps saying things to Heather. Like, do you see that boat over there that's almost tipping over?

Do you feel us? Like, we're, oh, we're kind of up right now. It's like, stop talking. And thank God, I like Jen. I will say I like Jen. And Jen's like, you know what? I'm just not going to, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to sit here and try to do this.

She doesn't care. Like, no one wants to hear this. And everyone's like, no, no, no, like, we want to hear. We want to hear. She goes, all right, I'll give the quick version so I don't, like, hold you up for too long. Yeah. And even with all of those tips, all those hints, all those cues, Shannon has no clue. This is why I was like, all right, well, Shannon sucks.

I don't like her because I hate that. I hate ignoring people is, I think, one of the most disrespectful things you can do. It's much worse to me than calling someone an asshole or a bitch or saying, fuck you indifference is so rude because it's so easy to acknowledge people and I've never understood that move

I get when people get in your face and yell okay but indifference is just brutal and I fucking hated that scene but the big thing we need to discuss is the Tamara versus Shannon thing that was the whole episode really and it comes to a head

on the boat and it's hard not to take Tamara's side here regardless of what we've heard on podcasts and stuff only because the first chance that Shannon had to prove both Tamara and Jen wrong, because Tamara gave Jen kind of a quick run-through of what she thinks, this is how Shannon acts. You're going to see it.

And Shannon immediately does it. And Jen's like, I see exactly what you're talking about. I get what you're talking about. So that's a point for Tamara because the first chance Shannon has to discredit it, she gives her more fuel for the fire. So Emily sits down with Tamara to talk about it. And she's like, can you just let it go? like can you agree that you both need to come halfway and just you did some stuff that was wrong she did some stuff that was wrong let bygones be bygones and move forward now do you think that they actually can or do you think they even want to i don't think they want to it it seems like tamara seems to be on a war path to the point where even talking about it she can't talk about it calmly she has to raise her voice to the point that chan and actually hears that she's talking about it and then kind of comes running in and starts talking about it a little bit more

I don't see Shannon letting go of it necessarily because she wants to prove herself right. I don't see Tamara letting go of it because she's kind of made it a point to talk about it more often. I don't think there's going to be a resolution. If that makes any sense, obviously we've seen a ton of things that just never get resolved. So it's kind of part for the course for these shows. But I don't think that this should be a major sticking point. I think I'm with Emily on the fact that just let it go. Just move on bygons speak bygones.

You're back on the show. I know you can't say that, but you're back on the show. Try to find something else. Honestly, just try to find something else. Have some fun, see where it goes, and then we'll move past it. I don't know if things are going to get squashed because I know for a fact after watching Tamara on Ultimate Girl's Trip and then seeing her on this episode, I see what she's doing because she's doing the same thing she did in Ultimate Girl's trip.

She's trying to make a case for herself to be full-time forever. She wants to be on the show. So she's coming in hot. She's like, here's my storyline. I'm going to gun for it. I'm not going to let this go. I'm going to cause a scene. I'm going to get loud.

I'm going to be an OG housewife because I want to stick around this time. I don't want to get asked to leave again. I'm bringing in 150%. Shannon, why I don't think it's going to work with her or why she's not going to be able to move on is because she can't take accountability for what just happened. Because Emily, and I guess Emily, maybe this is a goal to try to keep the piece or something, takes it upon herself to be like, hey, you need to apologize to Jen for cutting her off. earlier because I was really rude.

Right. Why Shannon's not going to work out. I was because Shannon didn't even realize, quote, unquote, that that even happened. And there's no fucking way that sitting there at that table while that was happening. You didn't understand what you were doing. That was a choice that you were making. You were making a choice to be indifferent towards her because you didn't care or you wanted to prove a point that this isn't worth your time.

So you got caught being an asshole. You then, like, pull it back and go, well, I'm adopting a kid. Like, of course I care because I'm trying to do the same thing and be a foster parent. And it's like, that's not an excuse for not listening to her giving her the time of day just because you yourself are attempting to be a foster parent as well. It doesn't mean you're on the same level as her. She's been it. She's lived it.

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we'll touch on a couple of things. Then we'll get into what this whole entire episode and whole entire season was about, and hopefully it's the last we're going to hear of it because of how it ended. But we start out with the husbands coming out, and the first question that we're getting to is Louis and the PJs. And this whole episode stinks of lying and going back on what you said and saying one thing but meaning another, which has no weight. It carries no merit whatsoever.

You can't just throw that out there and act like, oh, I didn't mean it that way, and it goes away. But we're asked about the pajamas and he was like, I didn't do that. Like, that came out wrong. What actually happened was I found an old pair of sweatpants that he had and I put those on. So I shouldn't have said that. We didn't want this. I apologize. I was just trying to connect. He still said that he did it for like a

comfortability reason for the... Which still doesn't make any fucking sense. And they didn't really dive into it. You can tell that Joe was just laughing like, this is ridiculous. I don't even know what to say about this. And Andy actually wanted real answers and he kept prodding along and then they just stopped talking. And he's like, okay, all right, I guess we're just going to move past

But I do love, and like we said last week, we need the husbands to get involved because this is way more husband-centric than any other show on TV on Bravo. I love that Polly is the one who starts off the Poolehouse comments immediately like, oh yeah, you were probably in the pool house. Probably in a pool house. That's pretty good. But yeah, you're right. I mean, the whole episode, and I never thought that I would say this, but I wanted more action. And I thought we were going to get it. I thought that Joe was going to be a big tough guy and stand up.

I thought that Louis was going to lose his shit and everybody stayed calm, cool and collected for the most part and laughed a couple of things on Melissa. Teresa is incapable of staying calm during this for whatever reason. She's erratic. It makes no sense. Nothing she said made any sense. And I don't understand all those people.

When we said last week, Teresa's got to go. We might want to be able to see Melissa for a season just to see what could happen. There's still so many people out there that are like, you're wrong. Because they're blindly following Teresa. You can't be watching this as a Teresa fan and thinking she's winning anything.

Yeah, that's what I don't get. Like, watch this show and take the emotion and the connection you have to this housewife out of it. Take away the connection to Teresa. By the way, she doesn't know who you are, okay? Teresa doesn't know you. And if you can watch her behavior on this episode and also take Melissa out of it and Joe, just watch her behavior this episode, watch what she was saying, listen to what she was saying, try to put any proof to anything she was saying. And then people question her and they give her evidence against.

it she goes oh well well then prove it then like do you have evidence it's like well you're now you're fucking your story up because now you're saying there could be evidence when before it was so steadfast that they were wrong now you're going back on what you were saying which her credibility to me which was already non-existent somehow got lower after this episode for her and louis and that's hard to do because they had no credibility to begin with that's a really good point and i also don't think the melissa did anything good for herself unfortunately and i say unfortunately because i thought that she had a pretty strong start yeah she did what we always preach and what we always say is a great tactic

let the crazy people just run themselves into the ground. Teresa was doing a great job of doing that. You did not need to do what you did in this episode and I understand that it's seven to ten hours of filming and maybe you get a little tired but as soon as Joe came out it's like Melissa flipped the switch and she

started feeding into the Teresa stuff and she was talking just as much as Teresa was and yes maybe she was a little more pointed maybe she made a little more sense than Teresa which is not hard to do but it was just drumming on and drumming on like no you're feeding into this bullshit at this point, Melissa, you're looking bad. I thought that Joe surprisingly had a pretty good showing. I did too. There was one or two points where I thought

that he involved himself when he didn't need to, but everybody was kind of involved in this whole Louis investigating you thing. Yeah, and I agree. I think Joe did a good job. He took our advice and sat back and let the crazies do the crazy. Yeah. Melissa should have as well. She didn't do herself any favors by jumping in with Teresa and just going back and forth like that. But a quick touch on the pool house, as we've already talked about it, Bill says that he only goes in there for 30 minutes to an hour, which is a very different story than the four hours that we got out of Jen, which I believe it's actually four hours, not 30 minutes. I think so, too. And I think that what Jen's necessary, or pretty much what Jen's doing is kind of keeping her personal life to herself when it comes to something like this. And she knows that she's vulnerable about it because they will sink their teeth. They will stick their teeth into it. And you can see the support, which is fine.

I get it. Like, look, if you want to keep some of that stuff, if your marriage is your own business, and obviously people have issues with your marriage from the outside, you want to keep some things private and actually support your husband, and you can kind of see him even supporting her a little bit, too. So it's going a long way. And maybe that's ultimately what they both needed and wanted.

I hope that what they were saying is true, because, look, I'm not going to root for a divorce. Do I think the bill is a good husband? No. probably not does he supports her financially whatever he was a little more open and he talked obviously he doesn't talk a lot but he did at least talk and share some truths and talk about his career and how it's like i chose a career that isn't really family oriented and i understand that and i need to do this and that and whatever i thought that he was at least truthful but i'm not

really going to spend too much time thinking about it yeah me either i think that their marriage has been in the spotlight for long enough and if jen wants to kind of keep her head down at this point I don't need to dig into it anymore. I hope that they can figure it out. And I hope that they're both happy. I hope Jen specifically, I'm not a big Jen fan, but no one deserves to be miserable. So I hope that they figured it out at least to be happy in some regard. But I'm over it.

I don't need to dive into their marriage anymore. Right. As a listener or a viewer. But the next thing, Polly's still married. He's working on his divorce after 14 years of separation. Yeah. But him and Dolo aren't in a rush to get married. And I appreciate the fact.

I think that if she was, he's ready to go. I agree too, but I think because she's not, he's also cool. It's like, hey, whatever time frame works for me, like we're happy. They both seem like so easy going and it's so interesting to see, even when things start to get crazy in the front of the room, she looks right back to Pauly and Polly said, just chill. You don't have to feed into it. Just relax. It's good. And she stops.

And she does. And maybe that is, honestly, Pauly could be the key to why we're not seeing Dolores take a stance in these things. And obviously we talked about her one comment that kind of went a little arrival. last week that we wanted a little bit more on but for the most part she's stayed in the middle and people have an issue with that I don't I don't know as I see her as a happier person right I've seen her in the past dealing with Frank

and dealing with whatever else might be happening she seems like she's way more even keeled and it looks like it's because of the relationship that she has with Polly they're both just genuinely happy and we need that on these shows we can't have miserable people the entire time we're gonna get miserable yeah and I think that for me this goes beyond the show

I think that Dolores has been put through the ringer long enough that if she wants to sit back and play neutral and play Switzerland and just be that person, if she's genuinely happy outside of this show, fucking let her have it. Don't sit there and say that she needs to get more involved or she didn't do enough. Like, no, she's done enough. She's earned the right to just sit back and be happy with Polly, and we're happy to see it. But this is when Frankie Jr. comes out. and I 100% believe that something went down between him and Louis, and I don't think it was amicable. Yeah.

I do respect Dolores for stepping in because rule number one at the bravros, leave the kids out of it, even if they're of age, unless they are willing to get involved, like Gia, don't bring him into it, especially when it has to do with his work, his job, his professional life. She's 100% correct. They're fine. Don't worry about it. We're not talking about this right now.

Now, I need to know about it as the viewer. Like, we need to talk about it. I don't know if you saw this, but Frankie Jr. actually responded to a DM. I'm not exactly sure who reached out to him to see what was going on. And the most professional answer ever, he's so well kept and like just a great dude. His response was, you know, when I got a lot of experience, it was a really cool job. I'm very thankful for it. I have no issues with Louie.

I actually landed another really great job right after that. So if I didn't get that job, I wouldn't have gotten the second job if it wasn't for the first one. I'm pretty sure that something went down. And I think that the reason Frank Sr. doesn't get involved because he's sitting back there and you see him say, like, unless it's brought up, I'm not saying anything. And Frank is looking out for his kid. Dolores is looking out for her kid. They're looking out for the children. Leave the kids out of it.

Frank's got a good job. Leave it the fuck alone. It's not worth involving Louie if something shady did go down. Because as we've seen and we got evidence now, Fuda has evidence. he knows that, like, Louie actually did dig into people. So that's just not a guy you want to fuck with. Not saying that he has power, but anybody that crazy. If Frank Jr.'s got a good job, just leave it go.

Yeah, I agree with that, and I really like the dynamic. And we finally got there that Frank and Pauly are on the same page. It seems like they both essentially got what they needed. Frank was pretty open about what he was going through with losing Dolores and so on and so forth. He seems happier with Brittany. They're moving forward. He's moving out of David's house, which is great. we love that and I just love that it looks like Frank and Dolores were both on the same page like no you know what unless it's brought up we're not going to talk about it Dolores took the stance of not talking about it at all because she's not going to throw her son under the bus and you referenced Fuda last week we talked about it and I had the stance of it looks like Rachel's just trying to get a little bit of a storyline and be included in the Louie thing the way that John Fuda came out I think emotions speak louder than words and shows like this and he seemed he wasn't on his

hinged. He was angry. He was pissed off. And he, everything that he said was direct. We see a lot of these people when they have issues with other castmates or whatever. They tend to run in circles and start talking about weird things and it doesn't really matter. Everything that John Fuda said was

on point. He was referencing direct things that happened. And now I do believe that Louis did actually look into Jaden's birth mother for whatever fucking crazy reason because Louis is absolutely nuts. The whole Bo Dietel thing, and we saw Bo Dietel come out, and he was on some

podcast, I don't remember what it was. He starts talking about it and pretty much throwing Joe Gorga under the bus, talking about how he's doing things for Louis, but it has nothing to do with the show, which I don't believe. It's not like a PI has credibility. No. You've got to be like the sneakiest people in the world. Unless you're like Ace Ventura, and then I

will believe you if you're Ace Ventura. I would as well, because he can talk to animals. Yeah, he can speak to animals, so that makes sense to me. but the Dietler, there's no way that Dietl's is on the up and up. I 100% believe everything food has said. Like you said, emotions speak louder than words. My man is angry and he has exact receipts. Which he never opened, but you know what?

Sometimes you just need that threat of a middle folder. Well, the threat of a folder is a big deal, but I'm also just talking about like you said. Did you see when he picked up the folder? Marge also picked up her piece of paper. Well, no, she had a folder too. She pulled the piece of paper out of the floor. We already talked about your shit, Marge. Yeah, just leave it alone.

You sit over there. But, no, I think that by him having actual reference points, like, you know, you had to look up what her number was in prison. Like, that's a difficult thing to do. You did that. I know you did that. And there's a record of that. There's a record because it's a federal facility. So when you call there, they have, which any place does, not even a federal facility, but at a federal place.

One, it's going to be recorded. Two, there's definitely going to be record of it. And three, he gives you that. He gives you the actual evidence. I know this. I have connections with private investigators. He also said it was associates of Bo Dietel, not Bo Deal. deal directly. So that is kind of what Louis is dancing around is, no, I didn't have

Bo Dietl do this. Yeah, maybe you didn't, but you said something to him, which then got down to his subordinates or whoever he's paying to do things. So yes, eventually it does tie back to that. And Louis didn't really say anything. He obviously denied it, but he didn't go further into it. He didn't show emotion, which when Louis's not showing emotion and he's sitting back and talking, I think that's when he's lying. I do too, because he sits there and he says, it's weird and Joe Gorgher calls it out because he'll be calm, cool, and collected and agreeable, but they'll end it with a, watch out. Watch out.

I got your number. And that was the other thing. When we saw the promo for this and you see Louis say, let's play, it seems like he might be directing that at Melissa and Joe. It seems like it might be important for the context. It was a random let's play. It made no sense in the context. I like erupted in laughter because I was waiting for him to say it because we've seen it on

every promo for every freaking episode since the start of this reunion and even before then, I was waiting for it to be some important moment and nobody was even talking really and Louis just goes, let's play. Yeah, let's play. What? No, suddenly he goes, be careful, be careful. I know everything. I know everything with the big eyes and the red face and that's when Pizza Gate comes up.

And we still don't get a lot of clarity on what exactly happened with Pizza Gate. He says he met with Joe's nephew, gave my $110,000 called Joe and said, do you want 5%, do you want 10%. Joe claims he got ghosted. Louis's like, well, I've got a life. I got a life. What I ghosted? You could have an answer call for a week. And Joe's like, no, like three weeks to a month, which if I'm going into a business venture with somebody, that's a significant amount of time. Then it turns into a dick measuring contest because Louis, like, you think I need that money? And Joe's like, I'll buy it from you. I'll buy them for me right now. And like, they're just talking about like who can buy who out, who's got more money than

who. Nothing really got accomplished and nothing gets resolved. It's just a lot of yelling on both sides. Those two get into it, which in turn causes Theresa to Melissa to get into it. Melissa is saying, God knows what. Teresa is just saying that's not true. You're disgusting. None of this is true. And then when something sounds true,

she says, can you prove it? And some guys can prove it. When they prove it, she says that they're lying. It's just a terrible, terrible showing. This was one of the weird moments where I actually felt bad for Andy. And I actually had a reference point thinking,

God, this poor guy had to go through the whole Vanderpumper union and then this on top of it. I felt really bad for Andy. Obviously, most of the time, we don't feel bad for Andy. because he's doing a great job. He is one of the best jobs in the world, honestly. And he's sitting there trying to endure this. Nobody's letting him talk.

Nobody's letting him mediate. They're just talking over each other. It's never going to work. But one thing that came from that whole Pizza Gate situation, which was the best point of all, and I thought it was completely unbiased, too, which was weird. John Foote is saying, you know what? If Louis was involved, or if Louis and Joe were involved here,

Joe doesn't really have a lot to stand on because he never got any documentation. There was never anything there. And Joe can stand on the whole, well, you know, it's family, and I wanted a brother-in-law, and I just wanted to do this and do that. But at the end of the day, no, dude, like, if you do business with anybody, you have to have shit written down. You can't do, you can't invest money, and he never invested any money. He just had a spoken agreement with Louis, who he's saying just ran with his idea and stole it.

You can't prove it. There's nothing, there's no paper trail. It's just your word against his. And, yeah, we might believe you ahead of Louis. but at the end of the day he's got he's the one with the pizza oven sitting in storage somewhere for whatever goddamn reason it's just typical we never get anywhere no we got no evidence to back up either side but but at this point we get a little bit of clarity on whether or not joe and melissa are the ones that ratted it out teresa the FBI I guess Frank was Joe's lawyer yes and he's like do I have I thought this was funny like do I have your blessing to break client paternity confidentiality is like Yeah, go ahead. I guess Frank was his attorney, and in the room with the FBI, he was questioned and didn't give up anything.

He didn't say a word about it. He was solid. So as far as we know, through Frank, and look, Frank doesn't speak up a lot. Frank spoke up this reunion. That should tell people a lot, I think. But Frank speaking up and getting emotional because of Louis, that's a big deal because we've seen Frank on reunions. He really doesn't talk.

He'll say a funny one-liner here and there. Like he said, the biggest thing I've ever said on any of these is called. calling Polly Buzz Light Year, which, look, Polly does look like Buzz Light Year. And also, that's not an insult. Is that an insult? No, I think Buzz Light Year is a good looking dude. Yeah, he's Star Ranger, Star Command.

Like, it's a big fucking deal. So I would take that as like, if someone called me Buzz Lightier, I'd like, thanks, man. Well, I thought the funniest thing was during that exchange, Teresa sort of walked it back a little bit. And then she said, well, you're way more guilty of the graver offense. I wasn't invited to dinners. She goes back to the damn dinners thing.

Dinner's come up again. But this doesn't make any sense. This had to go with the food on the table thing, yeah. Yeah. This happened years ago, right? Years ago. Why are we just hearing about this now? Why are you so butt hurt about not being invited to dinners, not being invited to dinners?

You said it was only couples only. That made me feel awful because I was single. Like, shut up. You were at these dinners, too. I just don't understand it. It doesn't make any sense. And again, Teresa just seems fully unprepared for all of this. And she was so consistent with her dumb comments that had nothing to do with

anything and her dumb accusations that didn't hit ever. None of none of them landed and she has no evidence to back them up. The only evidence that she tried to have is that she was on invite to dinners. We saw pictures of her at the dinners. Joe and Melissa, the whole thing comes up because of the food on the table thing. And it comes back to that. But somebody references, you know, the fact that they did actually kind of help and step in and help them make money while Tree was in jail because Joe Judice needed somebody to

film with. He had somebody in Melissa and Joe to come in. Now, the big thing Teresa's holding on to is, well, they made money, too. It's like, yeah, no shit, that's how it works when you have a job. Like, they were part of the cast or part of the show. No one's denying the fact that Joe and Melissa used Teresa to get on the show. I think that's pretty fucking clear. Yep.

Maybe it was an opportunistic thing. It probably was opportunistic. Oh, shit, she's in jail. Joe needs somebody to film with. Maybe this is our chance. In turn, it is mutually beneficial. Both things can be true. They might have used you to be on the show, but they did, in fact, help out the family by giving money to Joe.

all of a sudden, the Gorga family was the big thing from Jersey. Without them, you might not be where you are today. I just not. I think acknowledging that's a big deal, whether you agree with everything since, and even speaking from a non-emotional standpoint as a viewer or a fan of the show, Team Gorga, Team Judice doesn't fucking matter. If you look at it from, they came in at a time where the show needed them because Teresa was in jail, it helped the show.

It helped everybody out as a whole. Everyone gets so stuck on the fact that, oh, they used Teresa to be done. Maybe so. actually definitely so wrong with that and they also didn't even deny that by the way every single cast member on every single show that is not an original cast member needs a foot in the door in some way shape or form everybody that comes on now is either a friend of a friend they are a fan of the show or they know somebody in passing and help them get on the show like that's how you get on the show so the fact that people hang on to that all the fucking time is such a dumb thing for me because i'm like dude yeah they did use her to get on the show Yeah, we all know it. Yeah, it also helped the fucking show. So can both not be mutually exclusive? Does it have to be one or the other?

That's what drives me nuts when it comes to Joe versus Teresa. Nobody's able to look at this just pragmatically. Where were they wrong? Where were the Gorgas wrong? Where were the Judice is wrong? Because they all have a litany of offenses that they've committed against each other. Or just, it would just be funny if they had a little perspective because at the end of the day, you're family.

So you're basically the same person. So obviously you're not agreeing on this. Yeah, you are the same person. If you were to take a step back and realize, or if one of your spouses were able to take a step back and realize, hey, you guys are the same person. You're never going to agree on this. Just move forward.

Who cares? It's over with. We're done. And Teresa's threats of never wanting to see you again after filming, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don't really know where we're going to go from here because we have to move past it. The show's on a pause. It's going to be on pause. I've seen things that have said both Melissa and Marge are gone,

which doesn't really make any sense. That makes no sense. I've seen things that say they're just going to run it back with the same cast, which... That makes the most sense to me. I actually think

is probably going to happen. That makes the most sense to me. Yeah, and I think they're going to see how it goes once again. We're never going to get a resolution from this. You can see Andy's just tired of it, and we don't really care anymore. No.

Teresa is still standing by that. Oh, well, it wasn't Joe. It was Joe's partner. Joe's partner called the FBI and let them know. Now you're just throwing shit at the wall. And we get actual physical proof of that. And this is where I get frustrated once again with tree stumps

is because she's talking about Jacqueline Lareda and even Andy is laughing. He's laughing at her going, you can't possibly sit here and flip the script on how you feel about Jacquely you've been talking shit on her for years. This moment might seem small

but if you really want an insight on Teresa, look at this because she goes, I never talk shit on her. Run a fucking quote montage. Yeah, Andy said I can run a 20-minute montage right now. And he does. He runs like it's a 30-second montage of her doing nothing but saying mean things about Jacqueline Rita. So this is who she is. If something doesn't help her in that current moment, she lies about it. And if you can't fucking see that, again, completely

separate from the Gorgas. People are going to hear this and go, oh, Joe, oh, Melissa Stanton. No, no. Teresa herself does this time and time again. It is a pattern. We see it frequently. If you can't see what she's doing, you're too far up her ass. And I'm sorry if that's rough, but that's just, it's so frustrating to read these comments to talk to people about. I'm like, how the fuck can you watch that performance and be like, oh, she's killing it? Tree standing for life. Like, it just doesn't compute. And the videos come up because Joe's like, had you married a normal guy, like just a regular run of the mill dude? But she goes, why would you bring up the videos? It's like, how could you not bring up the videos? Did you see the videos? Teresa? Because they're

fucking crazy. The dude's on a beach with a bunch of other dudes having this weird emotional breakdown in the ocean while he's proposing to another woman. Yeah, and he's completely unapologetic about it. I think that somebody drops a comment. Yeah. I think it was Fuda, the drop. Marge goes, you have warrior tattooed in your chest. He's like, you're damn right I do.

That doesn't make you... But it doesn't make you tough because you have warrior tattoo on your chest. And this is just... We talk about Louis all the time. He's just lost in this little world where he thinks he's the top-tier man of emotionally available while also being

tough and also making sure that nobody's giving him any shit and protecting his family and all this. It's like no dude, you're going overboard with everything. All of everything no matter what you're talking about is completely overboard and we get to see him talk about

freaking Bo Dietel and he's walking everything back. I shouldn't have said that. I misspoke. It's like misspoke about what dude? By the way back to back because he's like I misspoke that night and he's like you said it the next day, sober. So, like, what he's talking about? And maybe he wasn't sober either time.

Who the hell knows what Louis gets into? But he's sitting there, you're right. Calm and collected with, I think he was with Dolores and Jen and Teresa talking about Bo Dietel once again. Like, no, dude, you absolutely did this. You can't walk it back now and say you misspoke when you referenced a specific individual that is a PI and said that you have dirt on all of the housewives. And that's the other thing.

I bet you it didn't stop at just Teresa's enemies. He probably got a whole. folder on Dolores on Teresa on Teresa probably too like honestly on Gia like where does it end probably nowhere and that's just who he is and I actually had the thought while he was going through this and I've been struggling with this but I this is where I'm landing he is so crazy and so unhinged I do need one more season with Louis I do I do need it no no I disagree there I think he's going to pop off once again and I do get a lot of enjoyment when he pops off we get into the cheating

rumors with Melissa once again. And this is where you can see a crack in the armor here because Louis's like, oh, well, you know, I just, I just wanted to tell Joe, like, you know, there's a rumor. We don't believe this rumor. And he's like, why don't you call Melissa? He's like, oh, I didn't even think about it. I just called Joe. You're telling me that in a moment where you're accusing somebody's spouse of having an affair, calling the person that committed that affair didn't ever cross your mind. It wasn't a conscious decision to be like, oh, well, we're not can involve her even though we're talking about her that's one two he said that there was multiple women when joe brings that up he's like i never said that i never said that we find out he did

fucking say that because they bring up another name joe says this name and teresa goes because teresa doesn't know any better and she can't keep her mouth shut she goes yeah well that was a different a different rumor he's like yeah but you said it that day that's bringing up multiple men you i've realized that part of my problem too with this is it doesn't does also fall on Joe. Joe did willingly go over there by himself. He did not include his right. I didn't think about that before, but in the moment, I realized, you know what, if that happened and there was a cheating rumor about, say, me and my future wife, I'm going to bring my wife into the fold. I agree. I'm going to let her know, like, hey, by the way, Louie just

called me and mentioned this. And they say that they already knew about the rumor, too, which is interesting. Wouldn't you just include Melissa and be like, hey, why don't we go over and we can just talk to them together? If that's what you want to do and you preach about this family all the time? Maybe they didn't preface it when I invited them over. They said, hey, can you come over? We don't know what the phone calls over. That's a possibility. Okay. All right. We'll run with that, too, because I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt because Louis and Teresa are way crazier than Joe. They're just unhinged. They're simply unhinged. They make no sense. But right before Teresa storms off, this is where I'm like, she doesn't know what's going on because she's in a hoff gets up and walks off.

She's like, I've been nothing but good to you. I've always been good to you talking to Melissa. I'm like, you have not been good to her. Not that she's a saint either. This is where we need to have a fucking like what is it what was it what we talk about before not a flow chart what is it a disclaimer okay yeah beginning like just because we're dragging one person doesn't mean we're a fan of somebody else just understand that but in this case like i'm definitely leading team joe and team melissa because it makes the most sense to me she's unhinged by saying that you didn't i was nothing but good to it was nothing but nice to you two are disgusting melissa you've ruined this family because you're in joe's ear is so short-sighted and it's such a

tired act like you need better ammo. And that's like what you've been saying the whole reunion. Come prepare dude. Bring your shit. You've been doing this a long time for you to check in now. Sorry, check out now. It's baffling to me. Like you're actually this is the pivotal moment. We've been waiting

for an actual like turning point and the Gorga Judey's feud for so long. Here it is. Here it is. It's this reunion seemingly and you fucked it. You dropped the ball. Not only that, but the thing that you try to rest on is well let me let me just call Gia right now because Joe gets into the whole issue where

your daughter called me as soon as I left and said that you could do better. Teresa obviously denies it. She never said that. And I don't think that she actually did because Joe says that she doesn't even say it. But we know we've been watching for years. We know that Gia has grown up and she's learned what happens and she's kind of taken on that

Teresa attitude. So yes, I think it's very believable that Gia could have called Joe and said you can do better. I don't think that that's something random that you would make up. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. And of course, we're not going to get Gia on the phone saying, yeah, I said that, Uncle Joey. But it doesn't matter because we get confirmation of it, because when Teresa storms off, it pisses me off to no end that Andy got up and followed her and, like, tried to, like, smooth it over.

I hate that he is like. He should have gone over and just said, hey, we got to get back. Like, we got to finish this off, which he did at the end, but he did try to console her. And he panders to him. The pandering to Teresa, I'll never understand. I get she's been around. She's the face of the franchise. he's arguably the face of real housewives in general.

I just don't get that move. I thought it sets a dangerous precedent with the other ladies that, you know, they're not only going up against Teresa, but they're also going up against Andy when they go against her. Like, I think that's the vibe it gives off for me. But in that moment, Louie's like, are you sure she didn't say that? I'm like, what? Now you're going to spin it?

Like, what the fuck? So you get the spin zone. He's like, well, maybe she actually was saying, like, oh, you could do better in that moment. Like, you can be a better uncle than you're being right now. Like, you could do better. So she did fucking say it. Probably. You just confirmed that she said it.

You called Joe a liar. That's Louis in real time just trying to get ahead of it because he realizes if it does get out somehow and people start to believe that, hey, how can we spin this? Exactly. So we get the Louis spin zone right out of the gate. It's also him trying to show that he's the PC, the peacekeeper. I'm going to make sure everything's okay. Like maybe she did say it. Let's just move on from this.

Teresa, I love you so much. I love bubble is undying. It's forever. I love you forever. Get ready. Get ready. Be careful. Get ready.

Be careful. What? No, just be careful. I love you. Be careful. But that to me is such a big moment that I hope doesn't get glossed over because by him confirming that she actually said it means that Gia, in fact, was a liar, that she did go to bat for Teresa. I'm not saying that I wouldn't do the same for my own mother on TV or in life, period. But you need to put the entire Judey's household on notice because these people are playing the game.

The whole family's playing the game. And if you can't see it, I can't help you. But it kind of ties up the episode. we get the last little where do we stand and you know Melissa goes with the PC answer that's just you know I I want to move forward I wish them all the best whatever like kind of keeps it on the up and up whereas Teresa's like I gave them everything I got nothing left I'm done I'm fucking over it blah blah blah blah but the one moment I want to talk about and then that's pretty much it when the husbands walk out and they leave for like the final farewells Louis does his thing and he goes over and tries to play the fucking peacekeeper

and he goes I just want to let you know like what you're doing with your kids it's amazing it's amazing mother and John Fuda goes if you want to be my friend

admit what you did yes flat and this is why I love Fuda John Fuda is great because like you said there's a motion there but it's under control it's pointed

it's real that's when you know someone's actually fucking mad he's like just say you're sorry say you did it say you're sorry he's like I don't know what I'm not investigating

He was, okay, he's like, you know what? And, like, Fuda walks away. He goes, he's this guy's a fucking snake. Like, he's a fucking dirtbag. He won't just say it. Like, you wonder why I'm so fucking mad? Like, it's because of you. And moving forward, I don't know how you bring Louis back.

Like, I know you would want to see him for one more season simply to crash and burn. I don't see how this show runs with Teresa and Louis. Regardless of how you feel about the characters, you might be big fans of theirs. How do you bring these two back in? to a cast of people that genuinely don't like them. Because look, Danielle's going to be out on Teresa and Jen next season because we heard behind closed doors

she said, they set me up. She knows the deal now, so she's not as trusting with them. What are we going to have Jen, Bill and fucking Louis and Teresa? Is that going to be the full we're going to watch? Because I'm not watching that. Probably not. I don't think that Danielle's going to be as angry about that. I think that she knows. But if we have a connection with Fuda,

but what happens then? Because now you're crossing because her and Fuda are apparently going to try to team back up and I guarantee production is probably like you two need to be better with each other because we need you. Possibly, yeah. I mean, when you throw the production value into that,

but also production isn't going to want what you just said. They're not going to want just two women and their husbands against the rest of the cast. That's what I'm saying. So they will probably urge Daniel to stay there. We get another newbie maybe? That's a possibility. I don't really know where anybody else goes, honestly.

I think they are probably just going to run it back with the same cast. I don't think they're going to bring anybody else in. I don't think they're going to kick anybody off. necessarily it'll be interesting to see like you said they're on pause so they have a couple of months to kind of figure it out and see where teresa and joe stand and what comes of that because obviously we're going to get more details about their personal lives coming out i don't know i really don't know where you go with the show i don't either it seems like and we were pretty tired about it last season was awful this season was boring this season was

better than last season but it was still not a great season exactly it was just they're wasn't enough there for us to talk about without talking about the same thing over and over again and it's going to get really tiring and I know that they kind of think and based off of the fan reaction we have a lot of people that are still just stuck firm in the ground as tree stumps and we have a lot of people that are supporting Melissa and Joe and they're not really budging they're still watching the show they're blind to everything else agree so I think that production is has a misunderstanding of where the fan base is because you don't really get a read on the show and how it's going unless you tap into kind of what we're saying. And I feel like the general

public is right in the middle. They're tired of things and they're going to stop watching it. But there's still so many people talking about it because they're fans of one person or another that I think they're missing the point entirely. So if we were running Bravo, I would probably just read New Jersey altogether. I think that there's enough interesting characters in the state of New Jersey. Like you can find a lot of good housewives. I would pretty much drop everybody except for Danielle Fuda. Danielle Fuda, maybe Marge even. Marge could be my anchor and I hate Marge, but she brings a lot to the show.

And then I would honestly, I would dump Melissa and Teresa and bring back Caroline Manzo. Oh, interesting. Let her lead the charge. You know what? She knows them all. And then you bring in a bunch of new, bring in two people that are younger that know Manzo. Yes. And bring in, I don't need more Marge supporters.

No, no, no. Give Dan, you know what? I saw Danielle has. Give Danielle a newbie. She has a step sister or something. Give Danielle a friend and give food to a friend. I think that's fair. And I think that's not a bad.

Maybe you bring Brittany into the fold. Keep Frank and Tanya there and bring Brittany in. Brittany could be fun. She could do more. She could do more. We just, there's no other way to shake it up, and we've talked about it for weeks. It needs to be moves. We can't, as weird as it is, it's not fair to either Teresa or Melissa to just drop one of them.

So get rid of both of them. I'm fine with it. Let the Gorga era run away. I don't care if they have spin-off shows. I don't really care, but bring Jersey back, make Jersey great again. Make Jersey great again. I think that you're, I disagree there. I do want Melissa and Joe back for another season.

I think they've earned the right to try it without Teresa because of what they've done for the show. Whether you hate them or not, you can't argue that they've been majority good for the show. Maybe not the last few seasons, but nobody really has. It's kind of been floundering regardless, but I think they've earned the right to try. But that takes us to the question portion and up first. from Ali Mulholland how do you feel about Dolores cowering to Teresa and Louie at the reunion

that's not what I saw I didn't see yeah Dolores is not cowering she's not getting involved because she's happy that's all she realizes what most of us realize this is stupid there's no reason to spend any more energy on it why would I ruin my happy life by digging

into other people's crap period from I am Maggie G why does Andy let all these damn women talk over each other Clearly, he gets frustrated, yet stays quiet. Now, he doesn't stay quiet. He screams, it doesn't do anything. I think the screams are fake.

I don't. The one was real. But regardless, I don't think you can. There's no stopping Teresa and there's no stopping Melissa. Like, once they started going after each other, I don't know how you can't shut that down. No, it's impossible to shut down. From Vailjandra Deeks. Oh, the Alejandraeaks.

That's that. Yeah, okay. Andy's rating on Summerhouse, Jersey, and VPR reunion. So let's just rank them which when he did the best, that, which when he did the worst at. Summerhouse Jersey and VPR. VPR, he did a good job. I thought he did a good job of staying neutral and letting people talk and urging other people to shut the hell up and sit down. I guess he did better on Jersey than Summerhouse.

Summerhouse was just... He was horrible. Yeah, Summerhouse, you could tell. all very clearly. Look, I mean... He doesn't like Lindsay. And that's the thing is he doesn't like Jen, but Jen isn't the focal point. Lindsay was the focal point. He doesn't like her. He was very biased the entire time. It was very obvious. And it was really hard to watch. So, yeah, I think that's the correct order. I agree.

From Max June is John Foote of the number one house husband of Jersey. As of right now, yeah, because that's the best stand up for your family I've ever seen from the husband because it was the most genuine. I think, yeah, I think maybe he's... nudges out Frank and Pauli. But that's just because they're delightful human beings. Exactly. They're all up there. As far as watching people on TV and enjoying it, I like Pauli and I like Frank

more than Fuda. But as far as performance goes, Fuda took a step forward. Fuda took a giant leap forward. He was great. I need more from Nate too. Nate needs to get... He didn't do anything. No, he needs to get more involved. He's a Jersey husband. It's a different vibe. You got to be more. You got to do more. Maybe he'll come in better next season.

Let's do one more. Oh, I love this one from Ascast 317. Louie is an HR issue, and this is coming from an HR director. That's awesome. He is an HR issue. Perfect way to end it. We can let Jersey lie for another year. We don't have to talk about it anymore.

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killers of a flower moon, Zodiac, Eight Men Out, and many more. I'm Chris Wimmer. Join me as we crisscrossed the country from the Miami drug wars and Dixie Mafia in the South, to mobsters in Chicago and New York, to arsonists, kidnappers, and killers in California, to unsolved mysteries in the heartland and in remote corners of Alaska. Every episode features narrative writing and cinematic music, and there are hundreds of episodes available to binge. Find Infamous America, wherever you get your podcasts.