Bros & Shows - Teresa Out of RHONJ? Janet and Jason Out of The Valley, Jesse's GF in? (NEWS 9/9/25)
Episode Date: September 10, 2025What's up Bros? A lot is going on in the Bravosphere as well as Love Island. Teresa reportedly not filming with Jersey. Meanwhile on the Valley, Janet and Jason were absent from filming as well... But... Jesse's girlfriend Lacy is apparently involved this season. Love Island Games has announced their cast. Craig starts a production company. All that and more on todays news recap! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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welcome back to the news news news news the sound effect last week i did applause did it work yeah
oh yeah it did but i didn't feel like reaching under the table our soundboard is underneath the table
and a little rack under my table and it's not that easy to navigate because there's also
legos stacked under there uh so yeah i just went with news didn't want to do a reach around
nope no it's too early for a reach around yep sure is and yet we made a joke this early on so
anyway, news.
Broads and shows.
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows.
I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only first on the scene,
Scooter McGreen.
What's up, dude?
Not a whole lot, little news.
Just bringing everybody into the fold.
letting them know what we know not a lot not a lot we don't really know a whole lot we're not this isn't
like breaking news it's more like here's a breaking news i got breaking news i've been looking for my
sunglasses for like a week were they right there the yeah the whole time next to my chair i just
noticed you have them on when we recorded one day must have been cool no i never put them on
during recording maybe they're on my hat and i was like oh that looks stupid so i put them down here
yeah that could check out yeah and then i lost them for a while it's flying
here riveting stuff
riveting stuff happened here in the studio
but yeah
look these are going to look different every
week these types of newscasts
from us
we just fucking stare at me down
I don't like it I didn't like that at all
waiting for you to move it forward to
progress it yeah let's yeah let's move it forward
but before we get into what's been going on
in the Bravo world and reality TV world
we're going to give you a little update on what's to come
for us because
it's been a bit of a lull.
Yeah, we hit our lull.
We knew it was coming.
The good thing is this was a much shorter lull.
Last year was like the entire summer.
This was like three, four week kind of dip.
Yeah, dip.
A dip.
I don't know why you said it like that, but yeah.
I don't know.
Deep.
Because the way you say that encapsulates what a dip is.
Is your vocal cords just dip?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm Tom Sandel.
I'm dipping out.
Oh, geez.
I was going to make a puberty joke.
Now I'm not going to.
anyway so yeah so we want to give you guys an update because the future looks bright
really does and we can only say that from a place of we have like two shows a week to cover
right now yeah i know so we're like hey yeah uh guys hang out for a sec we got some stuff coming
so first i'm going to try to go in chronological order here okay do my best anyway we're obviously
still going to have OC because you guys hate us and want us to continue and now everybody
thinks that we hate women
because we hate the show so much
and we're ripping people on the show
naturally people now think
hey we like OC
why are you guys hating it oh it must be
because you hate women and don't and don't cut that
by the nobody online don't cut that
and say look they hate women
oh I see what you're doing sense the sarcasm in my
voice guys this is what happens
like 99.9%
of people on socials are just
shitting on OC along with us
and then the two people that like it
leave those are always the people that leave a review they're like you guys are the worst how
dare you we got one that someone got mad at us for our hatred of julia who's being overtly
racist and currently transphobic amongst a bunch of other things on social media yeah someone's
like and they're hate for julia blah blah fuck off yeah what are we talking about so if you're
listening to this right now and you love us give us a five-star review yeah help us out give us
us out, bump those one stars out of the way.
Bump those O.C.
Don't be funny and give us a one star and make a joke.
That would suck.
It's not funny.
We don't really give a shit about our ratings to be the most part, though.
We do laugh about it.
Because look, in this line of work, a lot, like Steele even said before we started
recording a lot of our colleagues, they're in the threes because people just disagree
with their opinion.
That's the thing.
You get a one star.
It's incredible that we're in the deep, like, high fours.
I know.
It's no sense.
Well, like, I think it's nuts that you would go and leave a one star.
for somebody having a differing opinion.
Now, look, if you truly think that we hate women
and you gave us a one star, I guess, to each their own.
I get it.
But if you disagree with our opinion, that's just a nice sense.
Yeah, what are we doing out here?
We're looking with our livelihood.
Yeah, what the hell, man?
Although still not really, because we don't care.
Not really at all.
Just truly don't care.
That makes his giggle.
But yeah, so obviously we're still going to be covering O.C.,
kill us now, and Miami.
Miami's going to be coming to an end at some point.
We hope not too soon, because it's a great season.
season. We enjoy covering it. We love covering it. And we want that to actually be three
reunions. Even though I don't know if it's going to really take three reunion episodes to resolve
things. I just want more of them. That's what's interesting. And like I think it's interesting
comparing it to OC, which is nine episodes in. Yeah. It feels like we've been covering it for
six months. Dude, when I was compiling the release dates for what we're about to start covering,
I came across an article. And it was just like all the Bravo shows in 2025, the second half
2025. OC premiered July 11th. Wow. We are nine episodes. It's just every once in a while I take a
step back and like, holy shit. Like we're complaining because it's still so early in the season.
We've been covering this for three months. I didn't know that. Yeah. But my comparison was like a Miami,
which is 14 or 15 episodes in, feels like it just started because it's so good. The other interesting
thing in regards to like, will they have enough for three episodes in the reunion? Miami is cruising
right now and they're doing very well
with very surface level shit.
It's not that dramatic
as to what they're arguing about.
And usually when you have a shallow season like that
it kind of gets a little dull.
It hasn't at all.
No, it really hasn't.
And honestly, I think that just goes to show you
if you're entertaining
and there is a good dynamic,
if it's surface level shit, it's funny.
Yeah, it's great.
Because we can all sit here
and just laugh about how ridiculous it is
and enjoy it.
When it gets a little deeper,
it's interesting.
When it gets too deep.
But then there's a line
where it just gets to be too far.
Yep.
So the fact that they're able to do all of this surface level
just kind of goes to show you the cast that they have for the most part
is really just humming on all accords.
The other thing, before we move on from that,
there's a lot more chatter about Miami on socials now.
A lot of cadoos going out for these ladies in Miami.
They've been doing this for three years now,
but they're finally getting their comeuppance in a good way.
So I'm glad people are finally realizing like,
oh, we've been missing out on the best show on Bravo.
they won't second best,
Ross Lick's still the best.
Second best housewife show on Bravo for years now.
We've been screaming it from the mountaintops.
No one listens to us.
I mean, it's good for them, though,
because if you're just finding it now,
you've got seasons to catch up on.
It gives you some content to watch.
I wonder what the contrast is of season,
what was it, season four when they took the break?
After season three.
After season three,
and then we caught up at season four.
We're on season seven.
Correct.
I would love to see the contrast of season three
to season four.
Yeah.
And then thereafter, because I never watched it back then.
So that would be interesting to see how much better it got after the pause.
And the other thing is, and this is what always confounds me about Bravo.
Why do we not take models that have worked and try to replicate that model?
You did a long pause, and it fucking worked.
Yeah.
I think just logically speaking, it's probably really hard to find a close-knit group of women that are also rich and do a lot of things that are willing to.
years.
Yeah, but they're also willing to show it on camera.
I mean, we've heard disruptions about, you know, we're going to film here, we're
going to film there, and then it just kind of all falls through because they're not
willing to share different parts of their lives.
Yeah, it's true.
I always use Philadelphia as the example because they wanted to do Real Housewives of the
main line, and a lot of those women are like, eh, no, we're not getting that close.
Real Housewives of the main line would be fucking must-see TV.
It would be, and, you know, it would probably bring a lot of things to late, but they don't
want bringing to light, but, uh, yeah, they rich, rich up.
Yeah, there's some shit going on over there.
But anyway, the lull is over.
Salt Lake comes back next week.
We are pumped.
We actually have the screener,
and I'm doing a really good job of not watching it.
I'm going to watch it like two days before.
Yeah.
And we're going to make sure that we have that recorded
and out the night that it premieres.
So as soon as you're done, if you're a night owl,
does you catch that bug?
I think so.
Okay.
I think it was a catch and drop.
Catch drop.
Yeah, but I think I got them.
But yeah, so the night that that comes out,
if you're a night owl and you want to listen to us right away,
it'll be there for you.
am right that's how it should be uh unfortunately we don't get screeners for every episode of every
show so it doesn't work that way all the time i didn't get it i don't think you got to me
no i think i went too hard still nothing damn it but pumped for salt lake to come back that is like
steel just said the best show on bravo the best housewife show september 16th it's september 16th so
that is shifting i guess to um a tuesday night which seems weird oh that's interesting i don't mind that
I don't remember it ever being on Tuesdays,
but I might be wrong.
I thought it was all the time.
Thursday? I always thought it was a Wednesday night show,
so maybe we're all wrong.
But yeah, so Tuesday nights,
that gives you a little something to watch.
No, it was Wednesday.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
That sounds right.
And it says here we're going to get a below deck down under.
Surprise crossover.
Not a surprise anymore.
Well, it was in the trailer, so it's not a surprise for sure.
Right, that too.
Forgot about that.
Totally forgot about that.
Is that Captain Jason?
I think it is.
Yeah.
Oh, God, yeah.
Fuck, yeah.
It's going to look great.
Who's going to hit on Captain Jason the most out of that cast?
Like openly and outward or going to then deny it later?
Let's do.
Like I wasn't flirting with him.
We'll do the openly and outward and then on the sly.
Openly and outward, probably Whitney, I would imagine.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I would say like Heather and Angie.
Her and her husband just give me fucking swinger vibes.
I wouldn't be shocked.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be shot allegedly allegedly they just give me those vibes so I wouldn't be
surprised by that uh do you know what the interesting part is Justin gives me more swinger vibes than
Whitney does that's odd isn't that weird yeah I just idea to paint their bodies and show it
that part I don't know I could see him one of those parties with like the mask on but you're like
that's clearly just and look at those teeth yeah eyes wise shut yeah that kind of deal oh that's a
fuck it hey now that that movie might be like a documentary I don't fucking know we don't know
it might be out of the mainline that that's what I'm
they didn't film there.
That's a possibility.
Tom Cruise.
It goes into Scientology.
We're all here.
We got it.
We're all here.
But yeah, so that's going to be a very entertaining episode or episode season that we're not worried
about it all.
We're just excited for it to come back.
That is probably the best sweet spot to be in before a Housewives season.
Agreed.
Is just enjoying and knowing it's going to be good.
I know.
I'm not like wary about it.
I'm expecting them to continue to do what they've done.
the cast is not changing at Lisa, Mary, Heather, Meredith, Whitney, and Angie.
They're all coming back.
Bronwyn's coming back.
We know that we're going to look forward to, it's kind of a weird way to say it, I guess,
but watching her get charged with fraud and stuff, like digging all that up.
We know we got that, and she misses, like, the first half of a trip because of that.
Maybe that's the down under trip.
I don't know.
That's probably the down under trip, but yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're going on another trip.
It seems like they're going on more and more trips every year.
We're getting like two or three per season.
Yeah, it's solid.
I'm always a big fan of those because shit pops off on those trips.
Because they forced them to stay together.
You can't split off.
This is a good spot to be in for Salt Lake because last year, we had Bromwin come in.
We weren't sure what it was going to be.
It was right after the Monica bullshit.
So we weren't sure if it was just going to be a constant reminder of Monica did this.
Monica did that.
They didn't really talk about Monica.
It got to a point where they didn't trust Bromwin because they said that they've been infiltrated
by a snake before and we don't know what's going to happen and everybody's just kind
of very close-lipped about the situation, but it was still great TV.
this is just, we've moved on completely from Monica,
this is just a group of women that's going to get into some shit,
and it's going to be great.
Do you know what comes back on September, September, September 16th as well?
What's that?
Love Island Games premieres the same night on Peacock.
Aha.
Well, the cast was revealed today.
We had a lot of misdirection last week,
and the week before we talked about it on news last week.
It's not even really that close, to be honest.
Oh, really?
And people were saying it was going to be.
I said we would have at least two people from this most recent season.
Well, the thing is, so Cassie, who was on AfterSun last year, confirmed that she was going to be on it.
But she's not on this list.
So I don't know if this is just the first half.
I'm assuming this is going to get released in parts because this seems like a smaller cast.
But I guess Cassie, if they have bombshells, I don't know how Love Island Games works.
If they're going to have bombshells, I would imagine they're going to have more people than this.
But the main cast members.
Wait a minute.
What?
I love that, though, because your bombshells are going to be people we already know.
I think that adds a different element to the game.
Lusely speaking, yeah.
I mean, I don't know who the fuck was on.
No, no, no.
But people will recognize, like, oh, this person is kind of, ooh.
Yeah, and then immediately on Twitter, it'll be like, this is what this person did.
So we'll have some content.
I like that, actually.
Love Island Games cast.
Let's see if we can find it on here and put our lists together and figure this out.
Okay, you go ahead and read it off, and I will let you know if I see anybody that
you missed on this list what do you are did you just chat jp tia damn right we just did this
with chat gptia they were two months old i know all right so we're just gonna so i'm gonna go off
i just said we're gonna go back and forth and what by by what love island usa just posted today
oh that's better yeah this is legit okay well just fucking read it maybe i'm right andrea yeah
Andrena
Charlie
Yep
Chris
Yep
Isaiah
Charlie don't know who the fuck
Oh Charlie's coming back
I like that
Okay Charlie and Chris I'm into
Josh
Well I guess Chris you know
He couldn't be playing balls
Overseas
He may be playing balls
He might be playing ball overseas
But Josh again don't know who that is
Josh Goldstein
KK
KK Gray
Love the name
Kendall
Who we do know from season 6
Yep
Lucinda from UK and Australia
Tyreek from UK
Garby from Netherlands and Belgium
Mert from Netherlands and Belgium
Did you not know how to pronounce the last name there
so you just skipped it?
They don't have last names on this
Oh, I do
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Nicola from Malta.
I'm just learning
that these Love Island
Shows.
Love Island Malta is interesting.
Solene from France,
and that's the end of the list.
But Cassie was confirmed
before, so.
Did you get Isaiah Campbell?
I got Isaiah, yeah.
You did?
Okay.
Then yeah.
This was correct.
Oh, look at that.
ChachyPT coming through.
How did you get Tyreek Hyde?
Not on the list.
He's on this list.
So I'm curious if that'll...
Who knows?
That could just also be some other shit going on there.
And there's some rumored editions of Toby, Harriet, and Casey.
And I'm sure that we'll get...
Because from what I've gathered about Love Island games is that it's the same setup as Love Island.
That's not going to be any different.
I think they're calling.
at games because they're getting everybody from different
places. Maybe they're going to put more emphasis on the game.
I guess they're doing, yeah, they'll probably put more
emphasis on the games, which, by the way, it was like the stupidest
part about Love Island. It made no sense.
It made no sense. There's softcore porn. Yeah, that's all
it was. So they're like, hey, here's more softcore.
How about medium porn? You guys into that?
We're going to keep pushing the battery.
But no, I think that they're probably
just shying away from calling it Love Island
All-Stars for whatever reason. That's what it sounds
like to me. And there's still, it's $100,000
up for grabs, same as the other season.
So I'm excited for it.
Because last season was my first season.
I've heard from many people it wasn't the best.
So I'm excited to see immediately after get into it again.
And also, it'll be interesting to see the other people from different franchises throughout the world.
Do they operate differently?
Is it going to change the dynamics of the game?
Are we still going to see the same stuff that we're used to?
And given the backlash of like all the micro influencers that we got and all of the overproduction,
now ACE is out here saying that,
he was pressured by producers to do certain things.
I don't know if that's true or not.
If he's just catching too much heat and trying to backtrack.
He's been catching a ton of heat recently.
And I do feel like if you're ace,
he'd probably try to get ahead of that.
And he did not get ahead of that.
No.
At all.
He got behind it.
Yeah.
We don't even know what's going on with Shelley.
We don't know what the hell is going on.
I, for one, don't care.
That's fine.
I'm kind of dumb with.
Like, there are certain people from season seven that I'll not check in on,
but if they pop up on my feet.
he'll be like, oh, that's cool to see.
Well, Chris is a big one for me, and he's going to be on this season.
Yeah, so he'll be on this season.
Charlie will be on this season.
That's another one that I kind of like.
Andrena's interesting.
Yeah, Andrena, we got nothing from.
I don't think there's much personality there.
I don't know.
I'm actually curious to see her now that she's, like, that's the other thing.
This is different than the other ones because you get people that have history in the villa.
So you know how to move now.
So will that change how they operate in the villa?
Are we going to see a similar thing because now it becomes more,
of a game.
That's where they're calling it games because they know how to play it.
Are we going to see more of what we saw this past season of people trying to skirt by
by coupling up early and staying with the same person?
Are they going to put, if they're smart, they're putting rules in or some kind of caveat
where they can mix things up if it gets too buddy, buddy out of the gate because that honestly
is probably what fucked last season.
Yeah.
So I'm really interested into how quickly they're going to shift things given the fact
that they just wrapped, what, two months ago?
now. Yes. So that's not a lot of time to turn it around and try new things. I'm curious what
the season is going to look like. I don't even know if it's as long as the other season. I have
no idea how this works in general. Let's find out. God. Just going to find everything out right
now. But we also do not know exactly to what extent we're going to be covering that. So that's going
to be a check in here and there when we figure that out as that comes out. See what kind of
vibe people are putting out online. If people are even watching it, let's see how that goes.
let's see
because I for one cannot imagine
all of my nights just being
inundated with Love Island
What's the premiere is an hour and 20 minutes
Sorry two hours
Starting off on the right foot huh
Following airings during premiere week
New episodes will buckle up dude
Yeah I will not be checking in
Every single night
Daily every day
Nope
Yep
Nope
After premiere week
Oh wait
After premiere week
The show moves to a Tuesday through Thursday
day schedule. Thursday through Tuesday.
Oh. That's the same thing. That's the same thing.
Yep. They'll probably do something similar where like Saturday night will be something else.
But yeah, in the midst of all of that and still having a feeling lethargic from the last Love Island season.
We'll check it. We'll see what we can do when it comes to that.
We are on such different pages with this show. Yeah. I'm ready to dive back in.
Well, the problem is that it's five more days a week.
And Love Island is important. So you watch it every day. Love Island games, we don't know.
know. It might be fun to watch.
If it's good. It might not be a big thing that everybody's covering.
Yeah, that's a good point. And everybody's watching and everybody's checking in.
We'll take the temperature. But the way that you're talking is that we're just not going to cover it.
And I didn't say, no, I didn't say we weren't going to cover it.
Okay.
I said it might not be, I don't, I don't see a world in which we're doing two episodes a week for Love Island games.
Maybe one.
Maybe one. And a check-in.
I don't know. We'll see. We'll have to see how it goes.
Time will tell.
Because as it works right now with, you know, football season.
of course, I'll be watching Love Island games at my desk at work, which does not compute.
I tried to watch some episodes at work.
It doesn't fucking work.
No, I told you.
I turned it off.
I had the episode on the plane when they did the lumberjack challenge, and they were, like, that was on an airplane,
holding it like this, and I was in the middle seat, so I clearly looked like an idiot.
But that's a tough one to watch in public.
I will agree.
but yeah we'll keep our ear to the ground if it's as good as other seasons of Love Island we will do
what we have to do to get it out there if it's kind of floundering a bit then we'll
a lot of the charm of Love Island is and obviously they kind of miss the mark on this season
but everybody watched it anyway is learning new people and like yeah new people to us obviously
from like France and UK and Belgium or whatever Malta sure Malta the big charm is like
oh wow from the United States we don't know who the hell
this person is. Let's find out who
they are. Now it's like, like you said, it's
an all-star game. People know how to move
around the villa. They're going to be different about it.
We're probably going to be questioning a lot of people's
motives early on. That's going to be the big part that
I'm... And then that's, that kind of brings up
the issue that we had with last season where it's like,
all right, are you just playing the game, or are you?
Is this love? I don't know. I want to see love.
I want love. And is this game even about
love or is it about games? What's love got
to do with it? Who knows? But yeah, we'll
keep an ear to the ground on that one
and keep you guys posted. We'll
move on.
Moving on.
Let's get back to the Bravo sphere.
Let's move on to the Valley.
Let's do it.
There's some shit going on.
They just started filming this weekend.
Okay.
So season three is in production as of this weekend.
The first event that we know of that happened is a little sip and sea, which is something
that we've seen before.
Isn't it a joint one with Doty and Nia?
Yep.
Doty and Nia and the entire cast.
Jody and Dia are, uh,
God.
Our having a little sip and see, a little joint sip and see, come meet our babies.
Whole cast is there.
Obviously, no Jacks.
No, he's gone.
But also missing in action.
Oh, Brittany wasn't there.
Janet.
Britney was there.
Janet and Jason, not there.
Notable missing attendees could still be in Europe, running away.
You're hiding in Europe?
Hiding in Europe, maybe coming back in the second half of the season.
Who knows?
Maybe not invited.
That's what I'm.
That's a possibility.
I'm thinking not invited.
I did. Just starting off the season strong.
Hey, we've got a sip and see going on here.
We're going to check in here with Janet and Jason.
Talking about nothing, just talking about how they were disinvited
and trying to get other people not to go probably.
Talking to Jared about it, perhaps.
I can see right now what it's going to be.
You're going to have a sip and see.
It's going to cut over to a very sad lunch of just Jason and Janet
shitting on the people at the sip and see.
Yeah, because everybody that we do know that's in the cast is there.
except for...
Did you get it?
Oh, no, I saw it fly away.
This gnat is just relentless.
It is terrorizing us.
Yeah, so what we do know is that Lacey,
Jesse Lacey's girlfriend,
Jesse Lally.
I always say Jesse Lacey, Jesse Lally.
Why do you say Jesse Lacey?
I've never heard you say Jesse Lacey.
I say it internally.
Jesse Lacey is...
I'm thinking of Eddie Lacey.
That's a good pull.
Now, Jesse Lacey is someone.
I can't remember exactly what he is, musician of some kind.
I can't remember.
But you were going to look it up right away.
J.P.T. Help me.
Steal's brain.
Half chavsap.
JPM.
Yeah, so Jesse's girlfriend is filming.
Michelle was also there.
No Aaron, because Michelle and Aaron broke up.
We did hear that, which is sad because they moved in together.
There's a child involved, so that kind of sucks.
But now Isabella is hanging out with Jesse, Michelle, and Lacey.
I saw pictures recently.
They are like the last, I think the last few days, honestly, of it was Michelle standing next to Jesse holding Isabella.
And everyone seemed cool.
Everyone was smiling.
It looked like a nice time.
Potential good co-parents.
Are they co-parenting or is it going to happen?
Is it going to happen?
Well, bigger news.
Is it a bigger news story that Janet was not at this thing or the fact that Lacey was at this thing?
I don't see a world in which Janet and Jason are not on this show without us knowing about it now.
So I don't think that's big news.
I think that just tells you that things weren't squashed over the summer.
So they're clearly still on the outs with them.
What we know about Doty is like she will get to a point where she's able to move on, but she needs concessions.
She's not just going to roll over and be like, we're cool now.
Well, I think it actually could be more that Nia is leading the charge here.
I can see Nia being the one to be like, fuck her.
Dude, we saw Nia kind of buck up last season and kind of shift how she handles things because of the Janet situation.
She got tough and she got to a point finally, which we haven't seen.
She's always been the person that's going to be like, you know what, not worth it.
It's all good.
Janet got so far down that hole that Nia's like, fuck this chick, I'm out.
I'm not dealing with this stuff anymore.
So if we get Nia leading the charge, the anti-Janet charge and Doty's her support, that's a great fucking season.
That is a great season.
So that is great to hear.
Very surprised that they're not a little bit more closed off on this whole thing,
that we're getting information like this.
If we're getting it, they want us to have it.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking anyway.
And obviously, maybe they allow the concession of, hey, go ahead and post it on Instagram.
Yeah.
That's kind of where we got all of these things anyway.
Just like it always, always without fail, when they start filming or a week before the season airs,
you get, you know, the next gen NYC drop where so-and-so was in that creepy crypto horror house
when the guy was getting arrested.
We just found out, like, a week before next-gen aired, and it's like, oh, interesting.
Every time we're getting close to either a premiere or filming, something pops up.
That's a really good point.
So I'm sure we'll be getting a lot more, and I don't know how long it takes them to film at least a couple of months.
Yeah, I would imagine.
Um, we'll, uh, we'll keep an eye out for some more news, pictures, things that we can read into and completely make up stories about.
Yeah, speculate.
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And speaking of speculation.
Jersey?
Jersey.
Jersey.
Speculation station.
We're hearing a lot of weird things.
I was really, really enjoying my vacation from New Jersey.
It's been a while that we've had.
I had to not talk about it.
I know.
Completely off the radar.
Finally got to a comfort place where I didn't even think about it anymore.
What happens?
Danielle Cabral does an interview on a red carpet for something I don't care about
and immediately lets on that we're basically filming New Jersey at this point?
They're doing so, yes, that's what I heard.
But upon digging a little bit further, it sounds like they are framing it, at least, as testing.
Uh-huh.
They're doing some testing of what the show looks like.
I think you're going to have a focus group.
Probably.
Can we be in the focus group?
Oh, my God, I would love to do it.
Put us in like a box and let us watch just 20 minutes of the first episode of what you think Jersey is going to be.
Yeah.
And we will tell you yes or no.
It would take 10 minutes.
Yeah.
Honestly.
A couple minutes, honestly.
Because you would just have to see some of the old tropes and be like, nope, they haven't changed.
Yeah.
But apparently, this is all a run through of what the show looks like without Teresa in the show, which.
That's.
And so there's also conflicting reports on that specifically because the Danielle interview was weird because she can't fucking keep her mouth shut about this.
Correct.
It seems like she's in there.
So for whatever reason, she's still on the show.
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Anybody really being on this show doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I'm fine with Danielle, I don't care.
But like she brings nothing.
She brought nothing.
And I just really didn't even like her.
She doesn't bring anything less than anybody else on that show.
No, but she was a newbie.
So if you're going to go in a different direction, why?
It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense that she's there.
They asked their shit the bed.
Like, we watched a lot of people start high and fall off.
Yeah, so she just kind of goes on and on about pretty much what you were talking about.
Yeah, you know, there's some things in the works.
We've got this going on and that going on.
Dolores is apparently up in Rhode Island.
So who the hell knows if she's going to be on the show?
That sounds like it's an appearance in Rhode Island.
It doesn't sound like she's a cast number on.
It's almost like a crossover.
Like the first episode is going to be her sitting down with whoever the main housewife is supposed to be in Rhode Island.
Which we haven't heard shit about Rhode Island in a while not to completely deviate from the Jersey topic.
But we haven't heard anything.
anything about Rhode Island. You know what that means? That's going to pop up
randomly. That's exactly it. That's what
they do is, like, I don't get it. I don't know
why we don't promote things more and
like build up some
drama behind it so we can get excited for the
premiere about a new show.
We have no idea. And they're going to drop
a trailer and be like
coming next week and it's like, what the fuck?
Yeah, it'll be less than a month's
notice by the time that they drop that trailer.
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No idea what the hell's going on there, but for Jersey, Danielle is seemingly on there
and then the questions were a little bit leading in different directions, but she did get
asked whether or not she was recommending friends, and she said, well, yeah, I feel like we
all recommend friends every year, and I've got some friends lined up, and somebody's got
some friends lined up. Now, going against all of that because the reporter didn't ask her,
who's back? Or maybe she did, and they cut it out because Daniel couldn't answer. We get the most
unlikely of sources. Kelly Dodd. She and a Shea Shea She said anything. We wouldn't even
be reporting on it. Nope. To be honest, she could have actually said something about this,
and we didn't see it because she's not even on the radar. I think I actually have on my
personal account on Twitter, I do have
Sheena Shea Shea muted. Oh, interesting.
Like, no, not just her. The words Sheena Shea
muted. Oh, you can't even read Shea. I can't even see anything
because I just didn't really feel like dealing with her bullshit.
If I want to see anything from Sheena, I go over to our
actual Twitter account. But for this, Kelly Dodd was doing
an Instagram live as she typically does.
Still incredibly insane. Very problematic, but
very insane. And she goes on
to just read questions from people who are commenting on
live. One of the questions are, are you
hearing anything about Teresa filming?
And she goes, well, I don't really know what's going on over there.
I can't talk about it. Five minutes later,
I don't think Teresa's filming it at all.
Teresa's not there. I don't think she's there at all.
That is, by the way, where
we're, that's where it all started.
Is there? Kelly Dodd's live Instagram.
Oh, interesting. And then people are like, I'm
hearing. It's like from Kelly Dodd, really?
That's where we're getting it. I thought it was from a different
source. There's a lot of sources out there now
picking it up. It's one of those things that like
one person says it. One person says
Now, I don't even know if Kelly was the first one to say it.
Could have been a blogger, could have been a Bravo person.
But Kelly's the one who confirmed it, and now everybody's got it.
So it's hard to really find the needle in the haystack there.
Well, not to, like, you know, say that page six is a reputable news source,
but it does say on page six, Real Housewives of New Jersey,
start test filming without Teresa.
There are potential new cast members who filmed with Marge, Dolores, and Melissa in mid-August.
They want to see how the new girls work on camera with.
some veteran cast members.
Okay, so what that tells me is she wasn't involved in the test shoots.
That is not, yeah, that's not saying that she's not saying that she's not going to be on,
not going to be on the show.
And I do also know, they were not filming at the celebrity, uh, All-Star event.
Okay.
The softball thing that they do in Trenton.
Yeah.
So there were a lot of people there.
It's in Brooklyn now?
Oh, I thought it was in Trenton.
Oh, I thought it was always in Trenton.
Oh, how about that?
Anyway, so, yeah, so they had that whole thing, which was a staple for the last like 10 years of
Jersey we would always go we always have to go to the celebrity all-star game nobody was there
there were no bravo pictures it's just a bunch of people and you know pretty much the cast that we
were used to was there but there was no bravo producers there because people were looking for
them interesting yeah so no idea what the hell's going to come about that if maybe it's just like
hey we'll test and we'll see what happens and then we're going to send it to the higher ups and
and the executive producers are all going to sit down and say wow this is good or yeah no this
is fucking garbage.
I don't think the way that I read that now is not by any means Teresa's out.
That's just we're not involving Teresa and testing.
We're going to test these newbies with these ladies.
And I would imagine, as it's always been, lover or hate her, I do not like her.
But regardless, she's the face of the franchise.
She's arguably the face of housewives.
So I don't see a world in which she doesn't come back unless she doesn't want to come back.
I think that if she wasn't coming back, she would have told us.
That's what I think.
I think we'd have a spin off.
Somebody would have, like, Gia would say something at this point.
Louis would probably put something on Instagram about.
We would definitely put something out.
Something that he finds cryptic, but it's really just him in plain words saying
Teresa's not coming back and it's bullshit.
But he thinks it's cryptic, or he goes behind a burner account, but still signs off the
same way with an XO at the end of it.
Yeah, something along those lines.
We got multiple of those when we went after him last season.
Yeah.
So, uh...
Different accounts of like a generic profile picture of a woman standing by a house with four
followers and we get creepy messages
and they all are signed at the bottom
X-O. Yeah. Hugs and
kisses. Hugs and kisses. From your Uncle
Lou. From Uncle Louie. So yeah,
we have no
idea what's exactly going on, but we
do at least know that there is something in
the works there. Whether or not we're ever going to
see that, who knows? We still haven't seen Ultimate
Girl's trip, so who the fuck knows what's going to happen?
I love the urban legend that
has formed around that Ultimate Girl's trip.
It's like the most talked
about, but never, it's like something deep in the
Disney vault.
Yeah.
It's in there somewhere.
I would actually say it's like in the archives at the...
Oh, where they hit the Ark of the Covenant?
Yeah.
It's down there with Jesus' Cross.
But yeah, anyway, that's just something that could come up, might come up.
We don't know.
We have no idea what's going to happen.
But as usual, we'll be the third or fourth people to tell you.
Yeah, we'll let you know after everyone else tells you.
Oh, God.
I'm going to bring it back in here to OC.
Okay.
Yeah, great.
Yay.
Because we didn't really, the way, the way our episodes have been going for OC,
as we've already, you know, talked about, we're just hating on it.
We're just constantly.
We're just pure hate watch now.
And it is like somewhat of a recap, but it's more us just making fun of it at this point.
So we're not doing a great job at bringing in current events for the most part.
There's none to talk about.
Except for Jen's crash out.
Yeah.
So if you're on Instagram or Twitter or any social media, you've,
probably seen Jen's crash out by now.
She's not handling this whole situation well.
Very poorly.
In a very public way.
Yep.
So not really sure what she's doing there, but she is going on multiple Instagram
lives.
She's videotaping herself in a selfie, very, you know, Bethany Frankel-like, in bed, in
bed, up here, talking to people, answering questions, putting things out there.
I don't think she's eating food, thankfully.
That's the Bethany, Franklowe's not eating crab legs in a hotel bed.
Yeah, there was one.
Bethany was in Philly, and she wanted.
into the Four Seasons, and she did, like, a whole...
She, like, unintentionally became TikTok famous.
I know. It's just funny.
Which is incredible.
She was walking around the four seasons, and I commented on one of the videos and said,
Are you going to eat crab legs in bed?
She didn't answer me, but it would have been funny.
Did she get crab legs at Jean-George?
Yeah, that's pretty much what she was kind of getting out.
They've got the best crab legs here.
Please eat them at the table, Bethany, for the love of God.
With your phone, two inches in front of your face.
Yeah, but I think it's just, it's a strong indicator of where things are currently,
and what's been happening in O.C.
We don't care about the actual season.
But what's going on currently is there is a strong divide.
And Tamara going over to Katie, having Katie on two T's, by the way, which if I'm Katie, I just don't go on it.
Just stop doing everything.
I know that, like, Tamara seems to be a good friend right now.
She's probably going to burn you.
And by probably, I mean, she will burn you at some point.
It might seem like a good idea to clear the air on two T's or really anything.
like just don't talk to bloggers don't go on two T's it's just going to dig you into a further
hole everybody likes you right now yeah simply because they hate everybody else correct it's not
because you're doing anything great it's just because you're getting ganged up on you're getting
ganged up on people are tired of watching that and they don't like the other women correct and
if you just lay there and don't do anything you're going to be fine and by the time the reunion comes
out people are still going to be on your side you can do so much damage to yourself now and i know
Jen's crashing out, but that's not really that big of a deal.
We need, like, Gina, Emily, Heather, somebody else to, like, come out and start crashing
out.
Emily unfollowed Gretchen on Instagram.
Well, how about that?
Gretcher's?
God, I hate when she said that.
Unfollowed her.
So, like, that's what's funny about this season of O.C.
I'm looking forward to the reunion because what's happening currently a million times more
interesting than what's happening on the show.
Yeah.
And I agree with you because what's going to happen, I can see it now.
either before they start recording or after, Katie's going to say something,
and it's not going to be damning, but it's going to be enough,
and Tamara's going to start digging.
And then Tamara's going to, the minute that we're at the reunion,
and it seems like Tamara's 100% team, Katie, don't be shocked if there's a curveball in there.
And she's just...
It would be really funny, actually, just objectively speaking,
if Katie double-crossed Tamara.
That would be cool.
And I have no faith that she can do this,
but if she did it in a good way, in a very efficient way, that would be awesome.
Nah, because, you know, she's not going to be able to.
She needs support, and Tamara's giving her support.
And Tamara, like, you know, again, you know how we feel about her,
but at the same time, we always give her credit for being a good housewife.
This is, like, a masterclass in why she's good at being a housewife is because of what we're watching this season.
She's the only bright spot of this season, which is tough for me to say,
but it is the 100% truth.
And watching her navigate this in the fallout.
reading the room, being able to switch teams,
get the info from Katie and go to the reunion fully loaded,
it's going to be a good reunion.
Yeah, it's going to gear up for a good reunion.
We just have to be able to get there.
So what I would...
Halfway there, dude.
I know.
What I would recommend to you watching at home,
if you're still watching OC,
you can trudge through or you can just listen to us
because unfortunately we have to trudge through.
You're going to want to tune in for the reunion, though.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a good one.
If you stopped watching and you're just listening to us,
just wait for the reunion and just jump on and start watching that
because that will probably be worth it.
If we hear anything else that contradicts that,
we'll tell you,
don't bother.
But right now it seems like we're gearing up for it.
And the reunion is probably filming in the next couple of weeks.
We haven't gotten a seating chart or anything like that.
So I imagine it's coming the next two to three weeks.
We'll release that as soon as we get it.
And we'll tell you guys what's going on and what we can expect.
But OC, dumpster fire of a season, potentially good reunion.
That's the headline there.
Yeah, and I think that, hopefully that rings true.
Like, it could get all this hype and we get there and it's a fucking dud.
Yeah, it definitely could be.
Or they're going to do the Bravo thing and say,
two duds and a banger at the end.
Maybe that.
I was just going to say there.
You're already anticipating a three-part reunion.
It's going to be three parts.
Let's just accept that now.
But Bravo is going to see all the chatter about people talking about OC, not read the content
and be like, wow, this is great.
Let's get three parts.
Yeah.
Let's actually extend the season.
And bring them all back.
Yeah.
Bring them all back.
Let's, uh, this was going to be 15 episodes.
Let's make it 18.
Yeah, dude.
We've got more coverage.
No.
We got a lot of stuff.
They were following around an episode.
Good news Friday for like four Fridays in a row.
Yeah.
God damn.
Whatever.
Ooh.
I want to shift gears anyway for our last topic and just get as far away from OC as possible
before we have to cover it by the end of the week.
Anyway, let's go to Southern Charm because that physically, literally as far away as you can get.
Literally the other end of the country.
Um, yeah.
So Southern Charm should be coming back.
at some point. We already know that. That's going to be coming back in December. They've wrapped filming for at least a month or two. So that usually comes out like November. December. We'll have an update on that. But Craig started a TV production company. He's now in with another company that was already kind of getting off the ground from that. And now he's invested in a TV production company that will centralize around reality TV.
Interesting. Yeah. Very interesting.
diversifying his portfolio, I'm sure, but...
Any involvement with Southern Charm production?
No, not at all.
That's good.
I don't need two producers on.
Yeah, I don't think we can do that, to be honest.
And I didn't see any sort of connection between,
because I know Whitney was the ringleader to start Southern Charm.
I didn't see any connection between Whitney and this production company,
so I don't think anything's there.
I hope not.
That big bitch.
Yeah, but it is just really funny that this is,
and I guess it kind of makes sense, like, invest in what you know.
You've been on reality TV for a while, invest in a company,
start to partner up with them.
You were drinking on reality TV for a long time, invest in a wine spritzer company.
But it's funny because it immediately goes against, and we just did this last year,
you're now going head to head with Kyle's company up in Summer House with all of that,
with the Spritz Company.
Now you're getting a production company that specializes in reality TV.
It's kind of interesting.
I would imagine that it's not in contrast to Bravo.
I would imagine the goal there is to somehow work with Bravo.
Yeah, get absorbed or, yeah.
Because as we know, they use different production companies for different shows.
So I wouldn't be shocked if he's working on something with them.
To try to go against Bravo would be probably not the best idea.
So I don't think he's dumb enough to try to take Bravo on.
No, no.
I don't think it's going to be anything like that.
I think it's pretty much just going to be in those one-off situations
and maybe he can just make a little bit more money.
I'm curious.
Diversify your bonds.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
That's what it's all about.
precisely that is what it's all about oh last thing did forget to say this when we were talking about
what we're going to cover because we just stopped talking about that so i'm going to go back to the
first topic we've also got potomac coming out first week of october that's on the fifth so we'll
be covering that of course so we will have a good slate of housewife shows but a new show we're
going to be covering because we decided to just dip our toes somewhere else before it comes to philadelphia
because that's going to be very interesting love is blind is coming back on the first of
of October we have not I've watched a few episodes we haven't really gotten into that I've seen
clips yeah but this isn't something that you need to you know remember some lore from season two
when they were in Minneapolis or whatever the fuck's going on I think this one is uh you want to
look it up real quick exactly where it is yeah it's season nine of love is blind um so this is more
of a show where you can just jump in you don't have to watch each season you can watch this season
with us. If it's your first Fourier, go for it. It's ours, too. We can all hang out and watch
it together. It's a show, I believe, that drops in half seasons. So what we're going to do,
because we got the screeners, we're going to have them all out nice and tidy for you right when
it drops so you can listen to us. As you're watching, as you're binging on a Saturday night
when it's cold out in October, you got a little candle, a little cozy blanket. Maybe you're
eating a little soup. Soup seasons right around the corner. You got some love is blind on. You can
listening us right afterwards.
So it is in Denver.
Aha.
And it releases on October 1st.
Release format is likely a batch.
Ooh, I like this.
And then a weekly rollout.
But that's, you know, again, chat GPT is not always right.
Yeah, that's all right.
I would love if they do a three-part drop and then they do weeklies just for our sake.
That's so much easier to cover them when they lump it together.
Yeah, that would be fantastic if they could do that for us.
But we're going to dip their toe in there.
Get away from Bravo a little bit, but still reality.
TV and I know a lot of you guys watch some of the Netflix shows, uh, Hulu shows.
And obviously, if you ever feel like you want us to cover something, let us know.
Ailer.
We'll be paying attention.
Yeah, I'm actually excited for Love is Blind and it gives us, like Shooter said,
it's a chance to dip a toe before it comes to Philly because we are absolutely covering that.
That's going to be filming, I think, this fall in Philly.
I'm still so curious if somebody we know is going to be on there.
It's going to be somebody that we know or like, you know, two degrees of pros and shows.
go on their Instagram, they definitely are followed by somebody we know.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see.
So keep an eye out for that.
We'll make sure that we've got that ready to roll for you guys.
And otherwise, the future looks bright.
Yeah, we're getting there.
We've got to sludge through a little bit, but we're getting there.
And if you are enjoying O.C., then you're having a good time right now.
It's a good time.
I think it's funny because we're done summer and we're both like, all right, let's get into work.
Yeah, we're ready.
Get after it.
They're like, well, wait a couple of weeks.
Yeah, that's the only thing last year.
at least like September, we got back into it now.
It's like, all right, we're ready.
Yeah.
We got to wait.
But it's around the corner, so bear with us, everybody.
And that's all I got.
You got anything else?
Nope.
News.
That's our show, brother.
I got to go.
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