Bros & Shows - The Adventures of Eaglewoman and Blue Raven! (RHOBH Premier Full Recap, Winter House Recap)

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

What's up Bros?? RHOBH is back and we couldn't be more excited to get into it. But first, we discuss a little Winter House. While its not always our favorite show, there is an interesting cast of characters this season. On the dudes side of things, Alex is trying way too hard to hit on the ladies of the house and Bryan seems to be following his lead. Cory is claiming that he and Sam are not labeled and its more of a "situationship" leaving his options potentially open for the next. couple weeks? But isn't Sam coming to visit at some point? Seems a little messy... Jordan from Summer House: MV joins the mix as well as a few of the Below Deck crew. The show has a chance to be more captivating than we've seen in the past simply because of Tom Schwartz arrival. This season was filmed less than two weeks removed from the news breaking about Scandoval. Will this offer some more insight into what happened? Could Schwartz spill more tea on the matter? Well find out... But then its back to our flagship show, RHOBH and we are ready for a 20 episode season. We start out with the healers aptly named Eaglewoman and Blue Raven and Dorit is attempting to heal this group of ladies from the shit show that was last season. It does seem as though Erika Jayne has maybe turned a new leaf as she asks her therapist to explain empathy and how to show it... While slightly alarming, at least she's trying...? Sutton's store is continuing to do well and we get some more insight into her divorce/ finances. Garcelle takes her boys on a picnic and we get a glimpse into their relationship and it seems that there may be some tension between her and her sons. Kyle and Mauricio have been at the center of the rumor mill for the past year so we finally get to see them in action and what may have lead to the separation. Their is a clear disconnection between the two and it will be interesting to see how it unfolds over the season... All that and more on today's episode!!! Time Stamps: Rose and Thorn (5:41) Winter House (12:22) RHOBH (29:42) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter Magouter. Shoot, what's up, dude? Real weird week. Seems like nothing's going well.

Yeah. Just a bunch of shit. And really, it's just one thing. It's only one thing. It's a big thing. There's a lot of good things happening this week. We had a great collab with Brooke Ashley on Monday. I don't even know what day of the week it is.

Just been in like a severe depression. Yeah, I agree. It's like you knew it was coming. Eventually, like, it happens every year with every sports team that we get excited for. Sometimes it happens four times a year. Sometimes it happens four times a year. And I think that's why this one stings so much is, like, I was so sure. And I think that's what shot us all in the foot.

We were so sure that this was the Philly's year. Like, I had no doubts going into the postseason. I was like, ah, it's like, we're there. We're going to do it. And that's what we do in Philly. We get our hopes up. These teams break us down. They break our hearts.

And then we show up again next year. and do it all over, and that is life. And that's what I tried to relay to my daughter. Hey, you know what? You're a Philly sports fan now, and this is what happens. It is a miserable existence. Your life is going to be miserable when it comes to the Philadelphia sports teams, all of them. Honestly, I just got in trance.

You've got a nice little fish on your shirt that just cheered me up a little bit. Hey, you're welcome, buddy. Yeah, thank you for that. You know where I got this from? Let's do a little quick shout out for Guppies. Oh, Guppies and Wildwood. They invited us to the shop to pick out some things. So guffies, quick shout-out.

Great shop, great apparel. So if you're down in Wildwood, go check out guppies. Shout out, guppies. That wasn't planned, by the way. No, that wasn't planned at all. This is just like where my mind has been. I Steele started talking about something that depressed me even more. And I just stared off at his shirt.

So that's what happens. But I think the nail on the coffin was Pander King, Bryce Harper, wearing a fucking Sixers jersey to the game seven, you dumbass. I know. Nobody told him. That's what I thought, like, when I was looking at, at that post of him walking in, I was like, do you think he knows?

Or was that just like, like, he looked in the mirror in the morning, it was like, this is it, this is the look. Handering got the best of them. You don't think that the correlation didn't register. Like, oh, they blew it in game seven. Maybe I should not wear the Sixers jersey. It's the same fucking thing. I just.

Same thing. It just doesn't, I don't get it. Whatever. I don't care. A lot of good things happened this week. I've probably played like 40 hours of Spider-Man 2. this week just trying to take my mind off of it not watching any sports somebody told me that sixers start tonight could not care less their season doesn't start and i don't even know

if their season starts at all this year no i don't care it's just whatever eagles over everything at this point uh so yeah that's the own that's a great week for us welcome to the sad bros it's just like fuck you no no i'm glad that we're gonna be happy oh you mean the people that are happy that we lost yeah the people who people will be listening to this episode and they are ecstatic to hear the pain in our voices. Yeah, I know. But, I mean, the only thing I can say to that is on the flip side, if we were in their shoes, we would relish the opportunity to listen to, like, Mets fans that just lost, so.

That's a good point. You know. But you know what? To all of you that are happy right now that we're sad, shut up. Well, you know what? Spin it, I don't have to go out four times a week for the next couple of weeks. You want to know what my, yeah, like. Cut it short, you know, maybe my liver can start to regenerate.

I can start to sleep normally. I can get back more focused on work, real work. Yeah, silver lining. The silver lining for me, honestly, was like, you were coming over. I'm like, you know what? We can get into some semblance of normalcy again. We're back in the studio. Everything can kind of settle down.

My nights aren't consumed by Phillies games. And my emotions aren't, you know, up and down so drastically all the time. I think that's the hardest parts to come down from Red October is just like, it's like the biggest adrenaline rush crash it really is and but here we are yeah here we are and look we wouldn't want to spend our night any other way than getting back on track in the studio with our favorite people all of yous talking about our flagship show the show that started us off here rob ha and we're going to get into roba i'm so glad i can bring that back our intro is relevant again kind of but not really because rinn is in it well rinn is in it and

And then it also starts off with Cassianos. Oh, no. A fucking shit show. I thought about that earlier. That's so good. I was looking through some comments and somebody said that they recognized the Cassiano's thing because they were fans. And I'm like, that's great. And then it kind of dawned on me like, oh, shit.

Well, now that sucks. But at least, you know, Robha's back. Robba's back. I'll even say Robha. Oh, my man. Yeah. Because we need to just move the fuck on. Make it till we make it.

That's where we're at in life right now. But you know what, in honor of getting back to normalcy, let's do a little rose and thorn. I'll go first this week. Let's change it up a little bit. Change the dynamic in here. Should have done that before game six and seven. Yeah, it's my fault for Rosen Thorne. You know what?

Don't start that shit. All right. So up first, my thorn is this. And it's a four-star review. So I'm glad that our thorns these days are coming out as four stars and not one-stars. That's a silver lining and a rose in itself. but here's my thought. And it's from, I'll read the name,

Chrissy H.J. Maybe change your username. That's... Chrissy H.J. is not great. Lauren Bobbered Energy. So, from Chrissy Hand Jobs. The title is,

in an effort to be PC, YouTube brush away horrible behavior. Monica should be called out for her fit in a friend's home while yanking her four daughters from the Easter fun. Get a grip, guys. Look, we said our piece about

the Salt Lake shit last week with Monica and her mom gaslighting her and taking the side of another person at the party. We're on team Monica, like full force here. I think her mom is a narcissist. I think she's pining for good reviews and for people to think that she's a good mother. But it takes a lot more than two episodes and you acting like a mom than a lifetime of neglectful motherhood to get good in our eyes. Yeah.

And I do think that at the end of the day, Monica did exactly what Angie wanted. Angie wanted her to kind of spiral and Monica wouldn't have done it if her mom wasn't there. If her mom wasn't there, Monica would have kept her cool, but her mom got under her skin and there's years and years of development of that as we could see and what we've seen in the confessionals. Look, a four-star review, I'm not going to go super hard on you, but to be able to say that we're trying to cover up Monica's behavior and not talk about the other end of that. It's kind of fucked up. What was her name, Lindsay Handjobs? Chrissy H. Chrissy H.

Yeah. You ever think about Edward Scissorhans giving a hand job? No. It's just, you know, what the fuck? We are off the rails. Here's by Rose. We had a lot of great comments on YouTube from people that were psyched about the Brooke Ashley collab.

If you have not listened to the episode, it's one of our better ones. It really was a great collab. We all vibed right off the bat. Brooke Ashley is incredible. Her commentary is amazing. And it also, we had different. opinions for a lot of the show, and those are kind of my favorite shows, is when you can just have a dialogue about things you don't agree with and have a good dialogue about it.

But this comes from YouTube, and it's a very descriptive review. But this is from Catherine Rivera 2892. Oh my God, I can't lie, I haven't seen this video yet, and I'm already moist like a freshly baked apple pie. Clean up on aisle 2. This is a dream collaboration. I love you guys and Brooke. I don't have social media for mental health reasons,

but I will say both of your channels are so hella entertaining. Since I have discovered you guys, I listen on the regular, and I'm grateful to hear two dudes take on the Bravo universe. You guys leave me in tears sometimes. Brooke Ashley is so sassy. She is legit my spirit animal. I can't wait to press play. Great review.

Apparently we're not supposed to say spirit animal anymore, but great review overall of the Apple Pie reference, well, graphic in nature. Thank you for being so descriptive. Getting horny in the comments. We're in the comms, babe. I haven't seen that in a little while. But, yeah, though, honestly, you sent that to me.

I looked at it. I laughed for a while after the first day after we lost. And then I actually stopped reading it because I was laughing so hard that I put my phone down. Then I went back and I'm like, well, the rest of this is great. Yeah, it's a solid review. Just a really good, too good of a hook, I would say. You know, you want to have a good hook and then, like, an essay? It's a great hook.

Great hook, but I stopped after the hook because it was too good. Too good of a hook. You don't hear that very off. It's so good. we stopped reading. That's what happens. Anyway. Yeah, so I'm going to move on to my thorn is actually really funny, so I'm going to save that for a second.

This also comes to the Brooke Ashley interview that we did, collab that we did on Tuesday, Wednesday, I guess if you were watching. This is, I don't know how to say this. No, I'm stuck. I hate this. Hey. I think it's Prince Princessa but there's an X in the middle of it, so it could

just be like X, or whatever. I don't know. It's not a treasure map. No idea. Sometimes a username can be a treasure map, you know? I don't, but... It's good enough. Anyway, this person pointed out that I roasted Angie and put the time frame in there and said,

Shooter Angie roasted, the Greek thing is annoying, like, girl, we get it. Thankfully, people are noticing that she will not shut up about being Greek. Yep. And look, there's no shade being thrown to Greek heritage. Zero whatsoever. But, I mean, it would be like if I sat on here in every single episode, I had to bring up the fact that I have an Irish, oh my God, an Irish,

an Irish ancestry. Wow. Just because your Irish doesn't mean that we. I cannot speak today. I don't know what's going on with me today, but I'm going to get right into my thorn because I know I'm not going to fuck this up. My thorn, my thorn comes from the Bravo police. Oh, I love this one.

So again, from Brooks collab that we did on Tuesday, they looked at my camera, and I guess my camera's a little foggy. Maybe I need, it's a wake-up. call. I need a new camera, I guess. Camera's a little foggy. They said, can you guess which one of the brawbrose smokes weed? Yep. And then put the, because I got high. They made a

ampro man in the back. Reeled you. Yeah, no. It was a full on reel and zoomed in on my face. I did probably look a little high. I was really tired. And I was getting ready for game seven, which, you know, we all know how that turned out. But yeah, that was, did not expect to see that whatsoever. Real wake-up

call. Need to get a new camera, I guess. I'm going to get 4K so you guys can see the mustache a little bit better. It said we got tagged in the video, and I was the first one to see it. I was like, this is actually really funny. And every time it says, because I got high, it zooms in on your face. It was really well done. It was funny. It was really well done.

Yeah, very good thorn. Not mad about it at all. No, that's what we call a happy thorn. Happy little thorn. Happy little thorn. But, um, what? Bob Ross. Oh, yeah.

Thornebush. He'd be like, here's a happy little thorn. And we made a mistake, but there are no mistakes. It's just a happy mistake. Yeah, there are mistakes. Bob. There's a lot of mistake. Coming after Bob Ross?

Is he still alive? No. Leave him alone. What the fuck did he do to you? There's mistakes all over the place. Have you watched the Bob Ross documentary? No, no, no. Oh, I watched the Owen Wilson thing.

Did you know? I watched a documentary. Interesting life. Interesting cat. But anyway, enough with the Bob Ross podcast. We had a couple of premieres happen. And obviously, Robha is our bread and butter. That's where we got started.

So I'm so excited to. start talking about that again. But up first, I want to discuss Winter House ever so briefly, just to touch on it. As our listeners, no, it's not our favorite franchise. I like it more so than Shooter does. He despises Winterhouse. I kind of see it as a filler. It's just there.

It's in the background. I can watch it without getting upset and just kind of keep myself entertained, if you will. Okay. But let's talk about this season of Winter House. I know you, did you watch the first two or just one? Just one. Okay. What are your thoughts on this season thus far?

It's the same thing. It's, I kind of put my finger on it finally. It is Bravo's response to putting on something like Love Island. Oh, okay. Where they get a bunch of single people in the house. They specifically reach out to somebody like Danielle and say, hey, do you have any single friends? Yeah, Casey's around. I'll bring her.

Like, they bring in these single people. And yes, they're going to throw in Bravo. personalities you bring in below deck people you bring in uh you know family karma like whatever you can do to just try to get people who are young enough and in their 20s or 30s and they're single and they want to drink and have a good time and then potentially hook up that's really all they're doing but i don't want to watch that i i don't really get any love out of watching love island i've watched a couple episodes of that and i'm like i don't really see the appeal to this this isn't fun for me I don't want to watch people, and it's not as severe, obviously, on Winter House.

It's a little more kind of cringy, if you will. This episode is cringy in a lot of ways. It's just like I don't want to watch single guys try to mac on girls and then get rejected, or even if they were successful, I don't really want to watch it. The only person that I've seen that kind of like leaned into exactly who they are as a person was Corey when he tried to hook up with Sam and Summerhouse, and that worked out fine. Yeah. These other two with Brian and Alex watching them try to hook up.

with Jordan was unpleasant. It was unpleasant. That's what I want to do with this first episode. And depending on how this season goes, because there is a route where this becomes a captivating season, and we're going to talk about that in a sec. But I want to do this first episode just as far as, like, who you liked and didn't like and why. And I want to start it out.

So we obviously covered Summer House Martha's Vineyard. We actually really enjoyed that show. If you haven't watched it, go give it a shot because you will be pleasantly surprised. did a really nice job with that show, thoroughly enjoyed it. And we get Jordan from that show on Winterhouse. And if you watch Summer House Martha's Vineyard, a big issue that Jordan has is that she is constantly over-sexualized and dudes always try to hit on her and always look at her like a piece of meat rather than a human being.

She had a very emotional response to it at one point. We had that weird, awkward moment where one dude in the house just like walks up to her while she's setting up dinner and he's like damn jordan you're looking thick and like shit like that where it's not a conversation that was Alex right it was Alex from summer house martha's vineyard yes thank you but that's the first thing i thought when she was on this one i was like damn i know that she has an issue with that and the first scene we really get with jordan is with alex in the hot tub and Alex i don't know if he thinks he's smooth i don't know if he thinks he's got game he is the cringiest dude on the planet his game is creepy as shit it's like a horny teenager

in middle school trying to flirt with every girl he sees i hated those scenes with him yeah and i think jordan kind of dressed him down perfectly she said that she likes guys who have swag and i feel like alex is just kind of a cornball that's it and that is it is kind of what i get from alex i mean i don't know i mean it's it's too early to make a decision on somebody like that, but one, if you're Jordan, maybe don't go to the hot tub with Alex alone. She should be allowed to go to the hot tub without worried about this dude trying to point. You can go to the hot tub all you want, but you go to the hot tub with a guy who has been hitting on you all night and you go solo. It's kind of a bad move. It's just like not a smart move.

Try to rally some other people to go to the hot tub, and if they don't, then say, you know what, maybe I'm going to go later. I'm not going to say anything further than that. It's just like, not a great look. And then Alex is, of course, like, yeah, I'll go to the hot tub. you sure let's get the hot tub together he pushed it to the point of yeah like that moment that he tries to hook up with her didn't make any sense it made zero sense complimented her said she's smoking hot you get you get me going and then you try to like lean over it's just fucking awkward i don't saunter across the hot tub and he was even making eye contact he was like looking away and looking maybe he was hammered in her face fucking weird he literally just hovered in her face while she said

you're going, and he just sits there. First of all, your intro line to try to hook up was you're just smoking. It's just ridiculous. Like, that doesn't work. That's not a pickup line. That's not going to work 99.9% of the time, that will get you nowhere. And then when she turns him down, he goes back and plays like a hurt puppy dog and, like, puts his head back and he's like, woe is me.

And she's like, ready to go to bed. He's like, yep, and bounces immediately. So I hope that he gets no more chances with her. that she does not give him the time. Like, if you have a brain in your head, you just move on entirely. That's a shutdown scenario and you're done. But then he do not have a chance.

Agreed, but I don't think that he has a brain cell. And then the next day, he's hitting on Danielle. Danielle knows the scoop already, knows that he tried to get in there. Danielle was fine with it. Danielle weirdly was promoting it a little bit.

I think Danielle just likes the attention. Look, Danielle just broke up Robert. She just saw Robert two weeks ago in Aspen, apparently. So she's in a weird spot. And I think she just, just likes the attention. At least that's what I kind of got from her confessional. I don't think that she has any, I guess, interest in Alex at all. But then she says something like, I got to talk to my girl Jordan, make sure that it's cool because like if she's feeling him, then I don't

want to overstep. It's like, nah, you're cool. All systems go because she's not into him. And then we get Brian. I like Brian. I like Brian. I like Brian a lot. Family karma. I think that Brian is kind of a dork but like in an endearing kind of way but i think that brian genuinely thinks that alex is like a guy to look up to when it comes to women and i think that he's trying to play the same role like because he's being very forward about like what is intention he's there to fuck him and alx are there to fuck and there's nothing else they're there for and the way they're going about it is almost as though it's only going to take one evening of work where you go and just feel out the all of the women there you're going to go from each other you're going to go

from each one, gauge their interest, and then at the end of the night, you're going to hook up. And if you don't, it's a failure. Instead of being like, hey, maybe I vibe with you. What's up? Should we see where this goes for the next couple of days and then go? You're there for two weeks? You got time.

You got a lot of time. They're acting like they have... By the way, is a long fucking time. It's a really long time. To be in one house with a bunch of people like that. I agree. That's an insane amount of time. That I'm already getting started on why I think the Winterhouse sucks.

It's too long. It is too long. A couple episodes, and we're good. 10 days. Four episodes, five episodes max. See you later. Done. So the next thing I want to talk about, just real quick, is Corey gets questioned because obviously.

And so here's the thing. I just want to break this down one final time as far as dudes in the house and what flirting should look like. Corey is very good at playing the game. We said that when we were watching Summerhouse. We said that every time Corey's been in the house, he knows how to play the game. Whether you want to think he's a scumbag or not. he plays it well all right juxtapose that with Alex and what the fuck he's doing and everything that he says to girls legit is like what a high schooler would say to a girl like

oh you're just god you're so hot i can't even like how are you this hot like i'm intimidated by you but guess what i like being intimidated like gross pretty much where he was going with that yeah it was gross but brian didn't i don't know bryans was weird brian i didn't really see talking to jordan a whole lot during the night and then he's like oh i want to give you a little something like what is that what are you talking about then he gets shut down and then he just like walks away sadly complete opposite direction of his room doesn't walk away

he stands there awkwardly he's like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go this she's like you your bed's that way he's like no I know and then he was just so shut down that he's like I'm just gonna go walk over here and just kind of collect myself but then it seems like he had no recollection of the night before when he woke up the next day it could be a problem moving forward hopefully not the way bravo's going who the hell knows but

I just, yeah, I don't know. With Corey, it's interesting because the timeline is... I wanted to ask you about, because the way that he responds to are you in a relationship, that's what I wanted to ask. That's what I was going to answer. I know. I was answering the, yeah, you threw the vibes in it. Yeah, you threw the vibes.

But our listeners might not have, so I'm just... Listeners get it. They do. They're smarter than we are. Anyway, carry on. Yeah, Corey, it's a little weird because we actually do have a timeline on this. It's March. Summer House ends in civilization.

September. We know that him and Sam talked throughout the entire winter to just not say, also isn't Sam coming to the house? She's going to visit at some point. Okay. So Sam's coming to the house. Yeah. You know she's coming. You're here with Danielle, who knows that you're with Sam and probably still talks to Sam. It sounds like she really likes Sam and talks to her all the time. You're also on a fucking TV show. So I know that people play dumb here and there. And you know, the girls from below deck were like, I don't know what the hell's going on with Sandoval. Like, you probably did. but it's just a weird move to not answer it right away to be like yeah you know I'm in a

situation ship like you're leaving the door open yeah it's fucked up to Sam it's fucked up to your relationship I get it if this is like October and it's a month after you meet Sam and like yeah you had a really good summer with her you're not really sure where it's going to go you carried on throughout the entire winter at BravoCon at you know in L.A you had her come out to L.A you were in the York a bunch like you guys are in a fucking relationship whether you like it or not don't crack the door open especially if she's going to be there in a couple of a couple of days and meet all these people. What are you going to do?

Are you going to go make out with somebody? And then two or three days later, Sam shows up and you're making out with Sam and everyone's like, what the fuck's going on here? I just don't know what he expects from that. And I think that's Corey, it's probably how he's always been. And he's having a hard time now that he's in, you know, you're in a relationship, but you're 3,000 miles away from each other. I don't want to say what I'm thinking, but I think we all know what I'm thinking.

Yeah. And I don't want to paint him that way because I like Corey. but I thought that he had his first response wasn't awful and then he explains it further and I'm like that's not great because of what you just said

you guys are clearly a thing so at least say that because he says I'm seeing somebody I'm like all right cool and then when he explains him he's like but it's not a label and she's like oh a situation ship he's like totally

I like that I'm in a situation ship so maybe we can also boink because it's not labeled pretty much it's not a label I like Corey too I just you know I wouldn't let him date my daughter fuck no Is that, that's like the, yeah, no.

But you know what? We'll find out what, I think him and Sam are still together. So clearly it doesn't go poorly. But the last thing that we needed to discuss about this show. And this is where I say this could end up turning into a captivating season only because I didn't realize the timeline. We're like a week removed from Scandival. Like of it, the news is 10 days. Yeah.

We are fresh off of that. So I think that, you know, obviously it's going to take a lot for us to die back into that shit. but it is super captivating. So I imagine... It's a warm up for VPR. Right. It's a good way to put it. And I think that this is going to be an interesting time

to kind of dive into Schwartz a little bit, how he's feeling, maybe get some more info. Because I said it to Dev, when Schwartz walks on the screen, I can't help it. I have a soft spot for that guy. Like he walks into the winter house and I might get some ship for this. The fucking floor, you were just like, oh, Schwartz, are you so funny. No, no, no. Look, I still think that he did a lot of fucking... up things and I'm not like team Schwartz but there's just something about him like he

gets on the screen I'm like fuck like he's he's hard to hate he's that's he plays the game well he plays the dumb friend well and I said I called this out all season last year I'm not dumb I'm not like falling for his shit there's just something where like if Sandoval walked in I'd be like fuck this get off the TV but Schwartz I'm like I'll give him the time of day to see what he has to say this season of Winterhouse but I also think that as viewers that don't enjoy show, this is an opportunity for us to actually get something out of this season, especially if this is going to lead us into Vanderbom. Do you think that there's anything that happened in this show, whether it be something

Schwartz did or says about the Sandoval situation that we don't already know? I don't know. I feel like everything's out. I feel like everything's out there. I feel like they're going to paint it at some point. We're going to get a teaser cliff hanger. It's like, the biggest bombshell of Scandavall is about to happen in two episodes. And then it's going to be like, Schwartz knew for a little bit longer than he led on.

It's like, yeah, we already knew that. We saw the reunion. This is, is this after the reunion or just, is it in between? 10 days after everybody found out. So they picked the cameras back up. And then there was a couple weeks before the reunion era. Well, they said last week. And that was the clip of Ariana and Tom at their house yelling at one another.

That was the week prior to this. I don't think the reunion's filmed yet. I don't think so either. So that just kind of goes to show you. I feel like we're just going to get information that came out during the reunion. Probably, probably. But you know what? Again, I think that it at least gives us something, because that's the problem with most Winterhouse setups, is that there's nothing to latch on to.

I think here's a weird opportunity. It's not going to be our favorite, but it's something to get us through this and be like, all right, at least we got something out of that. Yeah, and I don't mind it. I will always hold on to the fact that I don't mind it for a couple episodes. Yeah, yeah. I just know how these shows go. They're just like three episodes too long. And I don't know how long this is going to be.

I haven't even looked it up because I'm afraid to. But again, just, you know, I guess it doesn't make any sense for Bravo to send all these people out to Colorado and pay for this house and pay for all their booze and pay for all their trips and all this shit going on. Which, by the way, sidetrack, Schwartz shows up. Do you see how much crap he has? He's got like a cardboard box with stuff in it. How the fuck is he getting that on the plane? Oh, I don't know. How did he get that on the plane and bring it out?

See, I don't know if he did. A lot of times they have things shipped to the house as they go to. Maybe he picked it up. The cardboard box was open. he opened it up he just needs i don't i don't know i just luggage he's the kind of guy that would travel with like a trash bag and cardboard box taped up with a shit in it yeah it sounds about right you'd love it you would enjoy it no i didn't say well bring him back to tom sports apologist still russell over here even start because people are going to latch onto that

that's not what i said when we were talking about bpr they're not going to do it now that's true it's just that's that's all i'm saying is there just something about him where he walks back on the screen and i'm like i kind of want to watch i don't know what Why. It just, it is, and I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. And I feel like you're gaslighting me a little bit. You're emotionally attracted to Tom Schwartz. But you know, you've got an emotional affair going on Schwartz.

This is good because this is, like I was talking about earlier, we're trying to get back to some normalcy here. The gaslighter's back. All right, things are vibing a little bit? My gaslighting or am I shedding some truth? Your gaslighting is what you're doing. You're being a gaslighter. And now you're further gaslighting by trying to act like I'm overreacting. So we are back, baby.

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or whatever you'd like to call it We got tagged in a tweet That Crystal had responded to somebody in the comments And they were asking about how many episodes There were this season 20 plus So we are in it for the long haul I don't know

I don't think that's set in stone though I don't think it's set in stone But I think we can bank on a plus 18 season You know what I don't like about that answer, though? What? Because Crystal is in it, obviously, the entire season. If she thinks it's 20 plus, I'm worried that she thinks the season's already too long, meaning that things drug on for way too long.

Well, she did say it's 20 plus, and I have something to say about every episode. So that paints it a little bit more captivating, I think. Well, that's good. I want Crystal to talk more. I do, too. My point is more so that our issue, our biggest issue, last year was the fact that we had to do it for 23 episodes, I believe,

but no, it's all said, almost six months. That's what I'm saying. It's a half a year of a show. You know what Beverly Hills is? And look, sports analogy, let's bring it back.

Beverly Hills is the baseball season. It is so fucking long, sometimes way too long. And then we get other things that are like really captivating and enjoyable, like maybe Atlanta or Potomac, which doesn't seem as long.

That's NFL. Okay. Yeah, you get like 18 weeks, like in there. including the playoffs and everything like that's what you want all right i like that that's a good way to put it sports it's good i look i will say i was for the first time and i knew this was going to happen i was re-excited again about beverly hills knowing that it came on i watched it last night i didn't watch it today wow you watched it when a premiere i didn't watch it when a premier oh no

i had a tv arc peacock i had a tv art oh you t-vote it t-vote yeah nice i had a tv art i watched it last night The only problem with DVRing things now, they know, especially if you're streaming, like I stream through Hulu, they know you're streaming, they know you're DVRing. They still give you the commercials. You still can't skip through the goddamn commercials.

It's a pain in the ass. I hate it. It stinks. But I was really excited to watch Beverly Hills last night. When it started up, I got a little jittery. I was pumped to see the girls back on screen. I know there's going to be a new dynamic this year.

And all of that went out the window immediately. Oh, yeah. No, you're unexcited? I was unexcited about one. one thing right away. Oh, okay. I think I can guess what it is,

but we're going to wait until we get there. Yeah. Because... Actually, I mean, it's right out of it. You want to just jump right into it? Eagle woman,

what's your big issue? Eagle fucking woman shows up in Blue Raven. And the only thing that you need to know about any of this is P.K. goes and tells Derreet

her associate Blue Raven is here. Derreet thought the PK was joking. And she was not. Doret's the one who fucking hired them to come out here and do this.

and she immediately thought that P.K. was making an inappropriate joke about the woman's name, and it actually was Blu-rayton. That's all you need to know about all this bullshit. This is actually just runs to the top. If they're going to drink peyote tea or something, I'm all in. This was a great opportunity to do that. I know it's still illegal, so don't cancel us. But this was a great opportunity to do something like that, something a little different. No, we're going to do the same old bullshit, but this time it's going to be way worse. This is worse than soundbath. So here's my thing. when she said vision quest I was like oh shit because we talked about that and it was like if we're doing

ayahuasca in the desert and then we get to see their reactions that's like a whole different I am so in I don't know how you film something like that you got some effects in there but I would I would pay a lot of money to watch somebody

Kathy Hilton specifically I would pay so much money to watch Kathy Hilton like on Iowasca wandering through the desert that would be fun they need a lot of chaperos although she would get canceled immediately I don't know

horrible whatever the fuck's up in her brain that comes out with those drugs, see ya. Yeah. See, and I'm jaded now to these scenes because I, like I said, I believe in like sound bass and all that stuff. Well, you're Native American too, so this is one of those things. And especially with like Eagle Woman and Blue Raven, I was like, okay, let's see where this is going.

But here's my thing. I don't know anymore if I get excited because of the premise of the show or if I get excited because I'm like, this is going to piss off shooter so much, especially this one. This is like if you wrapped up all of the healing. journeys we've had to go through in the past seven. It had everything. It had tied into one. The fact that

this chick's name is Eagle Woman, I was like, you've got to be kidding. They're just fucking a shooter at this point. They have to be. They have to be. Eagle Woman and Blue Raven are going to come in here. The only cool takeaway, I guess Doreet had rented that area. It looks like a pretty cool area to go. I would love to have a party out there. That would be sick.

I would get actual seats, not just cushions on the grounds, but you know. That's part of the whole thing. Would you shut the fuck up? Part of what whole thing? Part of the what whole thing. Tell me what they did. You know what you did? There was a little drum playing in the background, and then we're all going to file out here. I like that Garcell immediately's fucking only Dorit would do something like this. Pretty much everybody on Bravo is going to do some dumb shit like this. So they go out there, they sit down. Erica doesn't know

where to sit. There's a table that's higher up than the chair that you're supposed to sit on the ground, the cushion. And what did they do? They drank sage tea, and they said, hey, Kyle, why don't you talk about what's bothering you? Kyle talked about what's bothering her? They went back and forth a little bit, they shared a fucking hug at the end. And they had the same bullshit at the end with a confessional with Doreet, only in Beverly Hills. Can you get a bunch of women that are at odds,

come together and talk about their stuff, and then share a hug at the end. No, Dorete, not only in fucking Beverly Hills. How about Atlanta? How about Potomac? How about New York? Anywhere you want to go that has a housewife-centric city, you can go and do this dumb shit, hug it out, and I guarantee you you're going to be bitching at each other in like 20 minutes.

Look, man. Stupid. Just forget what You know. I'm dumb with it. I go back to the Roaring 20s party. Go back to the Roaring 20s party. No, I don't want these healing journeys anymore. They're so dumb.

They make me so happy now because of you. Because you know I get pissed off about it. Especially this one. It's like, it was just outrageous. And even in my, like, she looks at a rock and says it has grandfather. Grandfather energy. That's my grandfather rock. What does that mean?

You're Native American. Can you explain that to me? Does that have anything to do with that? Or is it just bullshit? I've never heard that. But hey, there could be something there. I don't know. I just, I took a lot of pleasure in this scene.

And again, I'm pretty sure it's just because I knew what your reaction was going to be. But I do, here's what I did like about it, objectively speaking. Last year, we were run ragged from all the shit, all the drama, all of the forced drama. Everyone was so fucking mad at each other all the time. It got so old. Like, we were genuinely stressed out, right? I'm glad that we can at least start this season off. Put the healing shit aside.

Put Eagle Woman and Blue Raven aside. It sounds like a bad superhero movie. Eagle Woman and Blue Raven. But... It does sound really bad. Right? Probably better than this, though. Anyway, my point is, objectively speaking,

I'm glad that we're starting this season off by just smoothing shit over. Whether it's for the camera or not, I really don't care. I did not want to jump back into last year's drama amongst everybody. I wanted to jump back into a fresh show. I want to see new opportunities, new storylines.

Rina's out. We can get rid of that bullshit. Diana Jenkins is out. We can get rid of that bullshit. One, completely forgot about Diana Jenkins. Awesome that I forgot about her entirely. Very forgettable. Really happy about that.

Two, that email, that had to be the fakesest fucking thing ever, right? No email from her. Rina emailed NBC Universal and said, hey, I'm not going to renew my contract. Thanks for a great eight years. Yeah, best, Lisa, fuck off. No shot. You were told not to come back because you stink. Yep.

And you did that. Look, I don't know. It looked legit. I think she just sent the email. I can do that right now. I know. And I think that she just sent the email, then took a screenshot of it and sent it to Erica or sent it to wherever. I don't know.

We're bravo. Like, where do you get off saying something like that? Just tell us that you fucking told her to not come back and I'd have way more respect for you as an organization. If you just said, hey, Rina sucks. We wanted her out. We kicked her out. We told her not to come back. this is where we stand.

Don't try to act like she sent an email and did all this to smooth things over with Rinnett just in case you need like a break in case of emergency six years. That's exactly. That's what they're doing. And I have no respect for that move. I agree with that. But I'm hired up. I like it.

But I'm just glad. I'm genuinely glad we could start out, especially with like an Erica Jane apology. Like I didn't see that coming. She says I was vicious last year. I was trying to defend myself. I felt the loan. Blah, blah, blah. It must be the hormones.

But at least she, look, here's the thing. thing when she said that and people are like, oh, it could be OZempic. It could be OZempic. Everyone in their dog is taking OZEPIC, so it could be that. But people forget, like, HGH has been around for a very long time. And guess what will help you get in shape and lose weight? Human growth hormones. Like, that's a valid thing.

So if she's saying she's taking hormones and that's HGH related, that's valid, actually. You know what I mean? So when she said that, and people are like, oh, it could be OZEMPIC. I'm like, no, it could be. But, like, HGH, like, human growth hormones are, it's a legit route. It's not good for you. But it's a legit route you can take. So I didn't think that that was as damning as, like, Dorete did.

But I'm glad that she apologized. I loved the fact that when her issue with her was the shit that happened at ProvoCon, where she says, and was 100% correct, by the way, that P.K. and Dorete's marriage was the next to fail. She says it was she wasn't. It's Kyle and Maricio. It's Kyle Marisa, but Dorete and P.K. I know. I know.

But the first one was Kyle and Rizzo. But it's all vague. No one really knows what's happening. I think Kyle and Maricio could have like a Will and Jay to thing going on. We're seven years ago. Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked. We're going to get to them. But all in all, I like the intro scene.

Healing shit aside, that was just a cherry on top for me because I could just feel you fuming. Do you believe it? Do you believe that we got a smoothing over scene and they're not going to talk about last season for the rest of this season? No, no, no, not at all. But I do think that it at least starts us off on the right footing where it's like, all right, let's try to aim differently this season. It's a fresh look at these ladies without. Rinna, maybe that was almost like a warning to the ladies. Like, hey, why are you looking at me like that?

Like, the optimism. Boy, I'm always optimistic. You don't, I don't think you believe what you're saying right now. I literally just said, no, I don't think that we're going to go this whole season without rehashing half of the shit that happened last year. What's the point in this scene right here? Because maybe, just maybe, they can point them in a different direction to start the show out. That other shit will come up eventually.

It's inevitable, right? maybe we can at least get some other shit happening so I'm not reminded of Diana Jenkins. I don't think we're going to get Diana Jenkins at all. I don't think they're even going to talk about her. I think that she spurned Bravo so hard that it's just they're not even going to let them talk about her. And if they do, they're going to edit it out. The one thing that I loved like genuinely from Sutton when it goes to her and I'm so happy that she's back on TV again. Like I just, I love Sutton.

But wow. I know. What a turn, right? Remember the beginning of last year? It's crazy. But she claims that she heard a rumor that when PK got his DUI, there was another woman in the car. And I'd never heard that one before.

I don't know. I didn't hear it either, yeah. But I've never heard that one. And I'm glad that right out of the gate, she's spilling tea, boom, immediately. So that's where I get excited. It's like, yeah, we're going to rehash some shit. Wow, rehash some shit. But I'm glad that, like, some of the why we love these women is immediately put back out there.

Like, I love something because she just says things. Like she just immediately was like, I heard he's banging somebody else and was in the card or in the DUI. Great. Now we have something to look forward to. Yeah. And I think that what we're going to get this year without, maybe we do get a little bit of a kinder, Erica, and we'll see how that pans out. But without Rinnivar, I think somebody like Sutton, somebody like Crystal, they're going to be able to step up a little bit and talk more and not have somebody just running down their throat as soon as they open their mouth. I think we're going to get more out of it for better or worse.

Look, I know that when it comes to Sutton, she does just say things. Sometimes it's damning to herself. Sometimes it's damning to other people. But that makes for good television. Totally. And I need more of that without somebody shutting her up immediately. I agree. And so I think it opens the door.

And that's what I'm saying with this opening scene. It's like, all right. It's pointing us in different directions than we had to sit through 20 episodes of last year. No, I'm not naive enough to think that we're not going to get back to that stuff, sitting over there smirking like an asshole at me. I wasn't smirking. I was genuinely befuddled. Befuddled?

Befuddled. I behooved you? You behooved me. Wow. Well, let's keep going. You can behoove me all you want, buddy. I'll de-hoove you, pal. Oh, I don't know.

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I know we've seen her in the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's like a full-blown friend of this year, and like we just didn't hear about it. I'd be okay with that because I love her in Sutton's dynamic. They've been friends for so long. she obviously she's the bride of chucky that's sick love that but i didn't mind her on screen it didn't seem like she was pushing too hard she wasn't trying hard at all it just looked like her and sutton were sitting down having a friendly conversation and there were cameras there yeah that's

what you want and i don't know look i like the obvi too obvious great oh yeah obvi's great obvi's awesome but i don't know if she's going to push that hard to be a friend of it might be more like i i don't really even know who else to compare it to but i i enjoy her on the screen i do too I think there's a place for her here, and it's nice to see Sutton have support out of the gate because that's kind of been one of her downfalls in the past. She's always had Garcel, but at the same time, Garcel is the voice of reason in the group, and she will kind of go any direction that she feels is correct, which that's why we love her. But with Sutton, like, we need somebody to stand by her when she just says dumb things

and doesn't question it just as like, yeah, I'm on Team Sutton regardless. I'm happy to have that person. I think Dr. for Tilly will play that. Yeah, because Garcell will do that. She'll support Sutton, but she'll also check her and tell her. Right, which is important as well. Like, Garcel, as we've talked about a thousand times, is like the moral compass of the show

and, like, the voice of reason and is invaluable, in our opinion. But I like the thought that Sutton has just, like, an ally separate from that. So hopefully that's what she does this season. But Sutton talks about now she has, like, financial autonomy and her store's been doing pretty well. It's been open for four years. shout out to Sutton, by the way, she sent us a Sutton T-shirt

that we are going to rock. We got a fight over it because we only got one, so we're going to have a cage match after this, and we're going to stream it for our new Patreon. I'm just kidding. K.Y. Jelly. Well, that's a different show. But she says she wants to flaunt her success

to her ex-husband, and I like this move. I like the fact that she wants to stick it to this guy and be like, yeah, you gave me an allowance. Well, check me out now. Big boy, look what I'm doing now with my life. I love that. Yeah, awesome move. So good for her. But the next scene, we get to Erica Chain, and she's in therapy with Dr. Man still. And we've seen Dr. Man on FaceTimes in the past.

Now, something stuck out to me here. And look, I like that she's doing therapy. I like that she's trying to better herself. She's asking a lot of the right questions. But when you have to ask somebody to explain empathy to you and how to show and give empathy, that's alarming, no? I had a different take on it. Oh.

I was surprised to Chief and ask what it was. I just pause real quick. I mean pause real quick. This is why Beverly Hills is my favorite, honestly. Yeah. Because most shows we are pretty much on the same page these days. Beverly Hills, we tend to differ on multiple things. Yeah.

Differ. Yeah. And I think that's why I love it so much is because we're usually not on the same page with Beverly Hills. No, no. And it's little things like this, too, because I was surprised that she even asked. Obviously, I was surprised that she didn't know what it was, but the fact that she asked her therapist what empathy is, maybe she's going to try to be empathetic. I know you can't, it's hard to try to be empathetic. I feel like you either have it or you don't, but she doesn't know what it is, which tells me she doesn't have it.

And we obviously get to see her actions for the last seven years, and she hasn't shown any empathy at all. So we know that. We went through that last year with the victims of the fraud and everything that was associated with all of that. So she, her asking was surprising to me. Maybe it's a step in the right direction. I don't know if I'm holding out hope that we're going to get a different Erica this year. And I think that's where my foundation is the optimist now. Yeah.

But if Erica Jane's a good housewife, this show is good. 1,000% of reading it. I think I'm rooting for it rather than being optimistic. I think that I hold some optimism as well there. And I'm definitely rooting for it because you said it best. This show benefits with a good Erica Jane. Yeah. Lover or hate her.

you cannot deny when she's on, she's fucking great TV. And I think that that's honestly all of the women of Beverly Hills, why this show holds a special place in our heart, when they're all firing on all cylinders, it's unmatched. It's one of the best shows on Bravo. When they're not, when they get lost, like last season, it's tough to watch. But when they're doing it well, like even to read this episode,

this is the best I've seen to read compared to all of last season because even though I think we're going to get back into, her getting robbed again, which is frustrating that she's going to take that route. I firmly believe that, and that's going to be annoying. What did P.K say? I understand a lot of it, but some of it's obnoxious. Yeah, which is like, even your husband's like, dude. But like, we're watching TV last year. And I think we had that exact same take because this show was so long last year, episode like 18 or 19, Doreet still talking about. We're like, get over it. Well, it happened so long ago. It's like, it could have happened like three weeks ago. We don't really know. But now P.K. is sitting there

who has to be as close to Doreet as possible is looking at her and telling her straight up. I understand some of it, but a lot of it's obnoxious. And now you're having Eagle Woman come into my house. This is obnoxious. Well, then when she gets to the Eagle Woman retreat, Eagle Woman's layer, if you will.

Oh, yeah. That's good. The Bird's Nest. The bird's nest. When she gets to the bird's nest, we see a security guard, and she goes, don't go far. Who's going to get you there?

You're on a mountaintop in the eagle. Eagles nest with Eagle Woman and Blue Raven. That's actually really funny. I didn't put that together. I thought she said, don't go too far in case this erupted and we had to look quickly. Okay. That was security guard. Don't go too far in case Eagle Woman and Blue Raven are unable to uphold honor and justice in the Eagles nest.

I think they're superheroes. I think that if somebody came in and tried to rob you, Eagle Woman's got you. Eagle Woman's got you. Blue Ravens, she's up to some shit over there. I don't know what she's is. This is my, yeah. Yeah, I think that she's like waiting for the downfall. ball of Eagle Woman to see if Eagle Woman falters and then Blue Raven's going to try to

step into that role and we're going to see a an anti-villain kind of scene yeah there's something going on with an anti-hero sorry anti-hero anti-hero I think that's the route that blue raven's going to go and I think that there's something here we might have to continue with the blue raven eagle woman saga I'm going to do some digging I'm sure they've got a strong social media presence yeah even though that seems to go against everything that they preach but you know they probably have a really strong social media. I'm very happy that you're going to dive further in. I think this is how we start the next episode next week is.

Tell me what you heard about Eagle Woman. Tell me what you heard about Eagle Woman. But moving on from there, we get Doreet and Kyle. And the more that I see P.K. around Doreton, maybe this is because things aren't great with them. But I just, I don't understand it. I really don't. Like, the man's double fisting lays potato chips. And, like, love that move.

But I just. They don't seem connected to me. And maybe that's why we're hearing things come out now that they're getting separated. And I just saw that they spoke out and said that they're staying together. The separation rumors are not true. But I don't know. I don't know, man.

Do you? Yeah. When he's double-fisting lace potato chips, she comes in and she goes, what are you doing? This is why I can't keep these things in the house. And she takes the chips away. And he didn't, like, get mad about it. He's laughing.

I don't know, man. I feel like it could be a different dynamic. Maybe they've just become friends. And they, that's it. But like. I'm watching Doreet on TV for the last couple of years, I would get tired of Dorete, too. I would get it. But P.K. is also the same thing.

They're just not a really good match, but there are moments. Maybe they are. I don't know. I really don't know. But I didn't get the vibe that they aren't, you know, kind of feeling each other anymore. I got the vibe that they're friends living in a house now. Yeah, maybe that's it. And that's what a lot of the things coming out now are alluding to is that they're like, they're

under the same roof, but they're not together anymore. And maybe it is one of those situations where they just became good friends. and the intimacy or something is out the window. I don't know. I could definitely see that happening. I get that vibe a little bit. Well, maybe him and Maricio were having an affair together. Who knows anymore?

They are really close. They're super close. And you know what? Like, who the fuck knows these days? Like, I feel like everything's for a storyline. I could see that happening just so they could, like, grab attention of the media. I don't fucking know. But we get Doreet and Kyle talking about marriages, which is funny because that's what we're talking about right now.

But they're sitting there discussing, and she was talking about a time that her and P.K. had where he was in Munden a lot. And she really needed him. He didn't do anything wrong explicitly. There wasn't cheating. There wasn't something that she could pinpoint. But he wasn't there for her when she needed him. And it's alluding pretty much to Kyle. And she's feeling that way with Mauricio. And obviously, that's all we've heard about for the past six months is the Morgan Wade thing. Now we got Mo with his dancing with the star's partner. And they're going on a date. allegedly, and I want to talk about that real quick, because initially Kyle had posted something in support of Mo on Dancing with the Stars. Good luck, and we know that they're separated, but she still said, good luck to Mo, like, I hope that, whatever. She deleted that because of a video of Mo out to dinner with his Dancing with the Stars partner and they were holding hands and apparently getting a little too close in this video. Now, this is the most hypocritical potcawing the kettle black,

glass house bullshit I've ever seen in my entire life. You cannot go and make a music video with a 26 year old country star who you stalked through her DMs to connect with. And then you make a music video in lingerie where you two are all over each other amidst rumors about you two dating and hooking up behind Mo's back, stepping out on your marriage with this chick. And then you're going to get mad at Mo for going out to dinner with a woman who he should be with because they're on dancing with the stars. I'm not saying be with emotionally or romantically. but it makes sense that those two are out to dinner because they're doing the Dancing with the Stars thing

and anybody that's watched Dancing with the Stars knows that the dancer and their celebrity get very close during these things. So that makes sense to me. What does not make sense to me is Kyle going and trouncing around the country with a 26-year-old country singer getting her name tattooed in our fucking body

and then having an issue with Mo getting sushi with Dancing with the Stars Lady. It's so hypocritical. It hurts my brain. I don't understand how she can go and watch what happens live and then have an issue with this when she's been doing the same fucking thing with Morgan for months. It's been months and we have to sit here and listen to her have an issue with Mo.

There's either something that we don't know that Mo did or she is just ass backwards in this whole thing. And it's funny because the way that this episode started off, they did sort of like a, almost like a mid-season trailer where they just started it off like, hey, this is what you can expect. Okay. So I don't really know what happened in this episode. I might be just pulling things from that trailer at this point. But it looks like Mo sits down and there's one line that Kyle says where Mo's talking to her about Morgan Wade.

And I guess this is later in the season. And he says, yeah, like, I don't really know what's going on here. Like they're saying that you're having an affair. And Kyle looks at Moe and says, well, at least it's me this time. I know. So maybe there is more there. And I don't really know. There's been a lot of rumors about Moe in the past.

Yeah, there's been rumors and we don't really know what the hell's going on. and we never know what the hell's going on. But I do agree. Everything that she's doing is super hypocritical, and I don't really understand it. I just think you've got to have a little more taste than, you know, dating or dancing with the stars person. You are out in the limelight.

Do you really want your fucking picture taken? Do you really want to be walking? Like, go find anyone. Was that a fuck for me, Kyle? Was that him being like, you're doing this shit, so I'm going to do it? Possibly? Like, I don't know what the angle is,

but, like, for me, it's just Kyle would have gotten so many points if she just didn't say anything about it. Yeah. If she hadn't commented on it, she comes out the winner there, because everyone's going to point at Moe and be like, gross. You know what I mean? I don't think anybody's going to say gross. It's just a weird dynamic. It's so strange. I just can't imagine that we're ever

going to have enough information. No, I don't really have an opinion on it. But for what we have here, the whole situation just seems fucked up. Yeah, it's weird. But the next scene is Garcel and her kids on a picnic. And holy shit. Jax's the most mature 15-year-old, I think I've ever met. I think that he thinks he knows more

and he actually does. Oh, for sure. He's 15. Yeah, he's 15 years old and he's acting like he doesn't need parenting anymore. You'll find out very quickly, like early 20s. Have fun in college. Yeah, exactly. And then afterwards when life starts happening and you're like, oh, fuck.

But I like this scene because I like seeing Garcel with her kids. I like seeing her as a mom. And I like the vulnerability here in the ability for her to say, because I'm a working mom, because I fly back and forth from Atlanta, I have not been there as much as I would have liked. and she has the wherewithal to be able to ask her children about it and sit there and listen to Jacks

go into this and explain you know what I needed this two years ago I needed a parent now I really don't and that has to sting like a motherfucker that really had to hurt but for her to open up the door like that for us to see this with her kids and also you know it's just it still

seems like an amicable relationship it didn't seem like Jacks was being malicious oh no not at all I thought like he was doing pretty much what you said in the beginning where he's acting like he knows everything thing. I don't think he was being malicious at all. I think that he was just saying in a rebellious way almost. Like, I don't need you. I'm okay. But he was still being nice about it. It was really interesting to watch that because their other son sitting over there carving his girlfriend's name into a stick. That's a 15 year old. And he's like, yeah,

I just miss Ashley. Ashland really bad. It's like, all right. It's kind of cute, but like enough dude. You're going to find out quickly. Your brother's over here telling me that I'm a terrible mother. So, like, let's, in like, so many words. So I agree. I think that it's great to see this because it's so much different than what we get with all the women together. You get to get a glimpse into their lives, and it's a very real moment. And I thought that Garcel handled herself pretty well with that. Yeah, she wanted to know more. She wanted to understand where his perspective was coming from.

And he allowed her in. He was being mature in a way while still kind of bashing his mom, which was weird. But it was still a nice moment to see, even though, you know, the content wasn't that great. The content was tough, but, yeah, I think that it's just, like you said, it's important for us to see these moments because it's a break from the group mentality everyone like trying to find a storyline or whatever now we just get a peek behind the curtain and we like that we like to see the family dynamics so the last scene we get with kyle and mo and mo is planning a million things on his schedule and kyle's trying to get him to talk to her this is where you see there's clearly

a breakdown in this relationship and i'm curious as far as timelines go where this is as far as when we started to hear about stuff happening with Mo and Kyle. And I don't know as far as like the Instagram post, the Morgan Wade of it all, like all of that stuff. Like when did that start in relation to this? And we suck at timelines as well. I know Morgan is in the trailer in the beginning of the show.

She comes into this eventually. But I think that's probably footage from when they picked cameras back up is that what you think? It has to be because we didn't hear anything until right towards the end of them filming. now obviously you're in a marriage for that long things start breaking down well before all of that so I think what we're seeing now is a completely different situation last year we saw mo but mo was going to aspen with them specifically so he could go ski and he was just kind of bopping around

doing his own thing the entire time we didn't really draw any conclusions from that we didn't say oh well kyle and maricio's relationship is kind of going to shit he's barely even around anymore we didn't think anything until we heard the morgan wade stuff then we have to start digging into it now we're watching this a little bit more analytically. And yes, maybe if you put this scene last year, we'd be like, all right, Kyle, like, let the guy work. Yes, he's planning golfing, but he's probably doing it with a client. He's doing this and that and whatever.

Let him work. It's not that big of a deal. We would probably gloss over it entirely. We would have. Now we're going to be looking at all of these things, looking for clues. And like you just said, we're seeing the breakdown in the relationship. I don't know if we would have said that last year with any inkling that they would be breaking up. I don't think we would have.

I don't think at all. I think that now we're so hypersensitive to it. So we're looking at, you know, I was looking at facial expressions, body language. The way they're sitting in there, dude, they're not comfortable in the same room together right now. And they're not on the same page. She doesn't even know that she got, like, three more tattoos. Granted, they're teeny tiny tattoos. But, like, she alludes to, she's like, maybe she'll look at my body more often.

I'm like, ooh, true. There's a knock on their intimacy. And just seeing them. Do you think Kyle even told him that she got the tattoos? I don't think so. Maybe you should tell your husband that you've got tattoos. Like, there's probably two sides to it. There's always two sides to it, right?

There's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth, so there's three sides. Do you think, this just popped in my head, sorry, do you think that Kyle is going to spend the majority of this season in her confessionals and in scenes specifically trying to make Marisa look bad as a husband? I don't know if it's intentionally trying to look bad. I think that she has the wherewithal to do that. From what she says, she's just sick and tired of being the victim. She's sick and tired of people, like, telling her what's what, and I think that what... Maybe look at your own family. Look at Kathy.

Totally. I think it's a Kathy thing. I think it's a deep-rooted issue that she's having. And this is where I, you know, she says the line, like, I've never been clearer. To me, this is not a clearer thinking person. This more to me looks like, and I don't want to credit it with Mox. I don't think it's just like a flat-out rebellious phase. I think she's just had it.

and I think that she is now acting in a way that that she thinks makes her happy. And if it does make her happy, who the fuck are we to say? But I don't know. It just seems like it seems like there's something else. There's an anger to it. And there's like a rebellion to it to where I don't give a shit if she gets tattoos. And it's not Mo's place to say, like, I won't allow that. Like you don't get to allow anything.

It's her body. She wants to get a tattoo fucking deal with her pal. Plus, they are miniature tattoos. Like you didn't even notice that she had her body. I didn't care for any of that. No, that's bullshit, and that's dumb for him to say. But when he does say, like, do it because this is you, don't do it because you're rebelling. That's where I start to think about it.

And again, not because it's the man saying it, more so because I'm looking at this scene. I'm looking at a very different Kyle than we've seen in the past. And I'm obviously going to delve into that and try to figure out, all right, has she had enough, did Kathy push her to the point where she broke last season? And she's sick and tired of feeling weak and sick and tired of people telling her how to feel and act and now she's just like fuck it is this actually who she's going to be and maybe that's when morgan wade ties in because you get this 26 year old country star who seems to like live her life the way that she wants to live it clearly resonates with kyle now she attaches her wagon

to her maybe it's something that she hasn't experienced in this life and she's like this is me this is what i want to do okay are you going about it the right way no i don't think you are but if that is who you are again that's not for us to say and i i wish her all the best that is true. I just feel like there's anger behind it. It's not so much I'm trying to find myself. It's more so I'm sticking it to everybody else. Fuck everybody.

Yeah. And we something again just popped to my head because we talked about this with Emily and Lauren on Housewives Nightcap, which if you didn't listen to their episode, listen to their episode because we have a nice little feature in there with Erica Jane, I believe, actually. We're not with her. She also does a feature. Can I throw that out there and then people will go listen? Oh, oh, yeah.

Come on. Marketing. Come on, marketing. But no, we talked about Lauren Manzo And we talked about how she and her husband got divorced And we tried to figure out, you know, what was going on And one of the things I think Emily or Lauren said Was, you know, she took Ozempic and then she kind of got her body right

She lost like 50 to 80 pounds within like a couple of months She started feeling a little bit better Kyle's kind of doing the same thing Kyle is sober for seven months She's working out a lot more She's, you know, focusing on different things in her life Now, I don't know if she just has this brain about her where now she's finally, like she said, seeing things clearer.

And that means, okay, this relationship isn't for me anymore. And I think that's kind of what we're going to navigate this whole season, at least I kind of hope so. Like, I hope that they didn't do that. And then we're just going to throw it away for like 10 to 15 episodes and then kind of like jam that in at the end. That's kind of where I think they're going to go. But I'm going to hold out a little bit of hope that they don't do that. I just think now we're kind of seeing and I want to see how this plays out. I think we're going to see a Kyle that is a little more vocal in the group and a lot more vocal at home.

And I hope that it's not just a campaign to just run Moe into the ground and act like he's a terrible husband and you're leaving him and everything that you're doing is justified. Because again, we don't know where the timeline started with Morgan Wade. She could already be talking to Morgan at this point. And if that's the case, then she might be trying to justify her actions by trashing her husband on TV, which that's not going to be a really good look. And I want to see how that plays out over the next, I guess, five to six episodes will have a better idea. I think that's a really good way to put it. I think I am all for, you know, a journey in which you find yourself, a journey of self-discovery in which you want to live your life a certain way, haven't been able to, and now you are. And I agree.

If that's the route she takes, great, good for you. I don't think that the correct route is to drag your husband and make it out that he's the bad guy unless he is. And if something comes to light, we'll change our tune very quickly. we always do but for the time being with the information we've been presented with it would do her a lot of benefit to take the route of this is me now get on board or this relationship won't work versus i am this way because of you yeah you were the problem and i think that that is going to be an interesting thing to watch i hope that that is a focal point for the majority of the season i want to see this relationship because we haven't dove into it before we've heard rumors we've seen some things we've heard some things on instagram whatever, we haven't had the chance to really peel back the curtain. So if we get that this year, fucking great. I'm down.

I'm excited for what we were presented with this episode. I'm excited to see where it goes. I'm glad we're back in Robha. Strap in and strap on. Strap in and strap on, as one of our commenters said. But that takes us to the question portion of the show. So let's jump right in up first. from Julie Bush 4300.

Do you think that Dorete married P.K. for money and is disgruntled with the actual situation. Yeah. Yeah. I had to think about that. I had to think long and hard about that one. Yeah. I'm going to say absolutely.

Okay. I don't know. Like I said, after I said they didn't have a connection, I did think back. And I'm like, you know what? They do seem to like each other. Do I think that financials were a part of it? Absolutely.

Yes, I do. Do I think that's the end-all, be-all? I really don't. And I'm going to give DeReed a lot of credit there. I don't think that that was the driving back. I think DeReed tries. I do, too. We see her try with P.K., more than really any other housewife on this show tries with

their significant other. So I feel like that's something that we can kind of hang our hats on. But I think that she expected her. life to go a little bit differently. And I, I think this is kind of where we are in life, in like generations, if you will. In the past, people would marry other people for the money. And then you just kind of stick it out. Yeah. You just suffer silently. Maybe you talk some shit to your friends that are closest to you, but you don't do anything else. Now in this life, I mean, the fucking divorce rate is, what, 50%. More than that, no. Yeah. You know the biggest,

the leading cause of divorces? Is it Facebook? Marriage. 100% of people that are married It is Facebook No, it is, it is Facebook You answered correctly, so I pivoted But no, so I think that with social media And everything being said out there It's tougher to just kind of like suffer in silence

Or I guess that's probably not the right praising But otherwise, yeah I think that that's kind of where we're getting I think that she saw her life going a different way It's not working out And she's kind of a little disgruntled Okay, all right Oh, I like this from Kelsey Lou Who

Are you fans of it's always sunny in philadelphia and how do you think it portrays the city and culture yeah i'm a massive fan and very well and yes yeah it portrays the city extremely well honestly that's uh it's it's blown up a little bit it's a little bit exaggerated but it's pretty on the nose and that's why that show is so good and that's why we have accepted those people into our city as fellow philadelphians rob macklingy actually is from philly and that's why it is so on the nose yeah like on their podcast he talked about he was drinking up in um or the passyunk oh yeah yeah like in the park and that's we all did the same shit we would find like the woods and we'd go drink 40s and he talked about the same thing

they were in the city last week because they were at a Phillies game and charlie charlie was at a bar that week just pouring shots for people yeah they just let him behind the bar so everybody in philadelphia loves always sunny and yes it portrays the city very well yep agreed from alley core who are you rooting for this season oh i like this The birds. Answer the fucking. Eagle Woman and Blue Raven, the birds. I'm kidding.

I am rooting for, I'm rooting for Crystal this season. Yeah. Just because I feel like there's so much more that we can get from her in the group dynamic and we've not, we haven't gotten it thus far. And yeah, I guess that tweet kind of sparked that thought. You know who I'm rooting for? Who? Erica Jane.

I want an Erica Jane comeback season. I know. Zach. No, whoa, whoa, whoa. Here's the difference. I am not Team Erica. I am rooting. I'm a big comeback story guy,

but I'm not Team Erica, but you want to ask me who I'm rooting for to have a better year? Erica Jane. She might have some self-awareness this year. Who the fuck knows? She said something in that trailer about, you know, just because I feel good

and I feel like what I'm doing is good doesn't mean that people, it's going to convey to people wanting to work with me. That's crazy for Erica to say. Yeah. Yeah. In the past, it would be, I'm Eric a fucking Jane.

You're going to want. to work with you. Yeah, you're lucky to work with me. I don't know. We shall see. The last question is from Sophie Shaza. Do you think Erica had some negative knowledge about P.K. and Doreat when answering that question at BravoCon? No. I don't think so. I think that she's just been around them. And I also think she was just trying to be shady. I don't know. I think she was just trying to be shady. I think that we did actually see her say that she didn't want to answer that question. and I truly don't think that she wanted to answer that question. And then when she got up there,

she's a showman. Her inner Erica just started showing. He's a showman. Yep. But that's all I got. You got anything else? No, I'm happy this week's over. Yeah, yeah.

That's a tough week. We got through it. This was a nice little end to it. I've enjoyed being back in the studio. Nice and relaxed. Back in the stew. Back in the studie bros, talking about Robha. Things are getting normal again.

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