Bros & Shows - The Battle for Beverly Hills- RHOBH S12E18

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

The Fox Force finally has some challengers... In this weeks episode we see Crystal take center stage as she goes toe to toe with the OG's of BH. Before we get there, we have drama between Nicki Minaj and Garcelle, Diana has Covid but still makes it to the aquarium and we check in with the lovely ladies of Paris. Then we get to see the Charming side of Patricia as she declares she too is just a B-List F&*k Boy. Its day 3 of the Aspen trip and there is a lot of tension amongst the FF5. More importantly, we see Crystal take a stand against the outrageous behavior that we've all been witnessing. Could this be the start of the rise of a new faction in Beverly Hills? Will the Fox Force 5 be dethroned? Welcome to the Battle for Beverly Hills... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brav Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever one. wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only

double scoots Magoots. What's up, dude? You said you were going to start with that, I didn't believe you, but here we are. Week 1, Eagles Victory Wednesday. Yes. Not satisfied as of yet. Jobs not done, but feeling good to be back in the football season. And I think we got a pretty good Beverly Hills episode tonight, too. So we got a lot to talk about. Yeah, yeah, we're not going to dive into the birds on here. but uh one and oh baby we're undefeated so let's keep that going but um yeah it was a eventful night finally um it captivated me the entire time like i actually felt like i was almost on the edge of my seat so i'm excited to talk about this one but before we get into that um i just need to touch on a

couple of things that are on my mind um first and foremost and you're going to bear with me here we're going on a little ride okay so kevin hearts from philadelphia you're aware yeah right so i went to Wawa today and um there's the Kevin Hart combo which is a Wawa Hogi and a C4 so my god that's what I said all right and this is a shorty at least I don't think so I think it's like a classic that's already off brand but my point is so those of you that don't know what C4 is it's an energy drink now back when I played pro ball we took C4 in powder form as a pre-workout like before the games totally legal by the way, but just to get like amped up to the point to go play a professional sport, who the fuck is out here chugging a C4 and eating a Wawa Hogi at the same time? Yeah, the two don't

really make a whole lot of sense. Now, I understand if you sub in the C4 for like pre-workout, I know people that do that and they go to the gym, I think they're maniacs personally, but I mean, whatever gets you going, whatever gets you motivated to get back in the gym and get healthy. Now, what the fuck that has to do with Kevin Hart? I have no idea. I think because, he's like on a fitness kick now he has been for a long time and not in like a negative way he's in tremendous shape but i think that he's promoting it as like a a workout thing but i just i had to ask your opinion because i don't know i just can't imagine washing down a wah-wa hoagie with a c4 energy drink i think it's a gross combo and i would argue that kevin hart would

never ever pair the two together no i don't think anybody should either and also the timing doesn't make a whole lot of sense because i get like you want to work out maybe not a hoagie afterwards, but I guess he needs some fuel afterwards. You know what I need to get my workout in? A C4 energy drink and a classic turkey toasted with pepper and cheonies. Sweet peppers on that bad boy. Gets me jacked up and I can bench 600 pounds. But yeah, if people are doing this before they work out, bad move.

But I just keep coming back to, all right, I guess maybe the C4 is an energy drink and Kevin Hart's a high energy guy and he's from Philly. So what goes together with Philly, like a Wawa Hogi? I don't know. The whole thing makes no sense. I don't know why you started off with this because now I'm just going to be fried the rest of the time. Because I have noticed it multiple times and it like struck my attention again today. And I was like, what the fuck?

I need to get to the bottom of this. And I want to ask Kevin Hart if he's ever had the two together because I don't think he has. That's all I'm saying. No. Anyway, the second thing that was on my mind, and you will share this with me. So we posted a TikTok. and we were talking about the Lionair donation. Now, we had, I think, over 300 comments.

I think 284 of them were, she didn't donate it, she pledged it. Look, sometimes it's a semantics issue, okay? It's not that big of a deal. Like, there's, we get it. She pledged it. We're sorry we messed up. However, rescinding apology. Immediately, because thanks to our good friend, Zach Peter, he did his deep digging, he did his due diligence, and he found out that she did donate.

Okay? She set up a fund that other people could donate to, and she herself did donate $100,000. Vindication. Round of applause for Diana, I guess. But, yeah, I mean, it was so much that I even told you, I was like, I need to make a PSA and just comment and we'll just pin it to the top so that anybody who gets frisky halfway through the video. And it's like a minute and a half long video. Yeah. It's one of our shorter ones. Yeah.

And people, as soon as they hear that, they're like, oh, I got to go comment on this. Now you see my comment. I got a bunch of likes on that one. So at least people responded well and it slowed down a little bit. But we could have gotten ahead of that, I guess. But somebody else started roasting Zach. I think it was on Instagram. It was like, I guess your good friend, Zach Peter, didn't do his due diligence,

didn't do all the digging that he needed to do. False. He did. He did. So back off. Look, guys. Look, we love you. okay and it's okay like this is going to happen we're going to have spats it's okay and the important

thing we've addressed it okay and now we can move on yeah we love all of you that listen there's a couple people that comment on our videos and it seems like they comment every time it's the same fucking person there's like I mean aside from the guy who called us cucks two weeks ago that guy I think that guy's hilarious it was pretty funny but there's another one that is commenting and it's got to be like erika's burner or somebody who's just blindly following her. Always, anytime we say anything bad about Erica, they question our backgrounds. I know. Like, what do you guys? Attorneys? What do you know about this? Like, all right, they clearly know nothing about the legal procedure. We've never claimed to.

We're just here talking. We're just commenting on what we see. That's all. And our opinions are the matter. At no point have we taken a firm legal stance either way, nor would we, because we are not attorneys, believe it or not, amongst the many hats we wear a little wig. That's what they wear in court rooms, correct? Those little powdered wigs. Yes, we don't wear those hats. Robs. And robes.

Shooter wears robes in hotel rooms, which is still weird to me. Barn door open. But I feel better. Okay, I feel better. And I just wanted to get that off my chest. Between Kevin Hart and the TikTok, you know, there was a storm brewing. We've moved on. Now this might have the opposite effect, because you feel a lot better.

Now I'm stuck thinking about C4 and Kevin Hart. So if I have any, like, brain farts later or I seem a little foggy, just know that I'm thinking about Kevin Hart and C4. This is a great time to announce our first ad for C4 and Wawa. Just kidding. No free ads. But anyway, we have a lot to discuss. A lot of stuff happened this week in the Bravo world. Diana zoomed into the reunion from Hawaii.

Now, she claimed that she had COVID and couldn't travel. Lo and behold, she posts a picture of her. at the aquarium with her daughter. Well, fish can't get COVID. We know that. That's very true. Fish cannot get COVID. That is a proven fact by the broth pros in our lab.

But I'm under the impression. And now this has happened in the past. Like housewives have been asked to not return because they didn't show up to reunions. Like that is in the contract. You must show up to the reunion. You got to face the music. It's part of the gig. Now, by her zooming in and claiming COVID and then showing up in an aquarium,

does that nullify her contract or her? are we just seeing glimpses of the fact that she is a one-and-done, she will not be back? That being said, real quick, could Diana have rented out the aquarium? Probably. Like, would that be a Diana move? Technically, yes. If that comes out that that happened, I'll actually believe it because she would do some shit like that. But until that's proven, like, she can't be coming back, right?

Like, she's got to be done. I don't know. I mean, I feel like if she wasn't coming back, her ego is big enough. And we talked about this last week, that she just wouldn't have shown up to the reunion at all. Now, I don't know, like, what kind of quality. I mean, we've all done Zoom calls before. Things are delayed, especially when you're, everybody else is in person and you're not. So the quality is going to be shit.

I don't care how good her internet is or whatever. It's just really not going to work. So it's essentially like she's not there. Like she won't be able to get into the emotional distress as everybody else is getting into, which there are reports coming out that there's a lot. So her boy, Andy's probably going to have to take another sabbatical after this one. But I could see her. doing a one and done situation or she hasn't worked out like I can do this Zoom and that's good enough

for me and I can come back for another season and maybe we were wrong last week maybe there's somebody else who's leaving maybe it's Rina maybe it's someone else that's not going to show up but I mean all the reports are that everybody showed up to the reunion so I really don't know what to read about this interesting I don't know I mean maybe it's wishful thinking I just want her to be gone so now I'm just trying to speak it into existence but from all the reports I've read, I think two housewives are leaving. That's kind of what I've gathered. Now, if that comes true or not, we'll see.

But I hope it's the ones that we want to leave. I hope they don't throw a curveball in there. They're like, oh, Garcell's gone because I would be fucking furious. But I don't think there's any way that happens. I'm just saying, like, until we know who it is, I'm going to be on edge a little bit. Most of our news this week has to do with Housewives. This one goes at Garcell, had drama with Nikki Minaj. which I never saw this coming,

but I guess Garcel interviewed a woman that claimed that Nikki Minaj's husband sexually assaulted her. So Nikki Minaj went on a podcast and went off. I think it was her own podcast. It was like Queen Radio or something. So I think it is her own podcast, yeah. But she was like screaming at Garcel. We listened to it right before the show started.

I wish we recorded her reactions because... I mean, she comes in hot at Grissel. Now, here's what my brain immediately goes. Will we see Nikki Minaj next season? No. Come on. No chance in hell. It's not going to happen, but I mean, it was alarming to hear what she was saying.

And Nikki Minaj has been in the news, in the tabloids, whatever, for her husband and his life before, I guess they got married. But she's been, you know, defending her husband, left and right with all these things popping up with him. and this was like a year ago that Garcel interviewed her husband. Oh, this wasn't recent? No, so she interviewed this, her, Nikki Minaj's husband, who's, I can't remember his name, like a year, or the woman that accused him of sexual assault, a year ago on the real. So it's not like Garcel just went out of her way and was like, hey, let me interview you for my podcast. Let me interview you for my own personal project.

My own personal, whatever. She did it on the real, which means like, yeah, she probably has some input with the things that they do, but, like, she doesn't reach out to people to interview. So she did that a year ago. Nikki came back now because of what Jacks went through. Oh, right. Because the bots were coming after Jacks and Garcel got upset about it. Nikki's like, if you, she said verbatim, if you can't stand the fucking heat in the kitchen,

then get the fuck out of the kitchen, bitch. Yeah. And I mean, Steele said this, like, the two of us listened to it just before this episode. And both of our jaws on the ground. like, wow. Yeah, it was shocking to hear. And look, I'm rooting for a Nicki Minaj appearance now on Housewives. And you can say that I'm crazy, but I think the world needs that.

I think that would be electric television if Nikki Minaj kicked the door down and just went off on Garcel. Like, that's good TV. That would be good TV. It's not going to happen. No, it would be good TV. But it would. No, we'll see.

Never say never. Justin Bieber. And we also have some exciting news to share. We were recently guests on Bravo and Blaze with Jenny Blaze. We were on her podcast last week and it dropped today. So do yourselves a favor. Head on over there and give us all the watch. Yeah, you can watch us on YouTube.

I think she also dropped the podcast. Yeah, it's on Spotify. It's on Stitcher. It's on Apple. It's on pretty much every streaming platform. It was an absolute blast. I thought it was a lot of fun. Yeah, we both definitely had a great time.

and, you know, we did it over Zoom, but we made the best of it. We showed our character. We showed, you know, our humor. We had a great time. Yeah, no, it really was. It was a blast. Jenny's great. Give her podcast to listen, give her a follow, and watch her episode.

I think it was, it's pretty entertaining. At least I thought so. I think so, too. You know what? I got pretty good taste. Yeah, we're good dudes. Yeah, we're good dudes. We're a good watch.

Yeah. And that takes us back. to pari and he errone small i wait what was that what errone this more no the first part party damn it i had it good the first time you put me on the spot pari it's not like you were saying potty no no hurry oh go to the second word now on this mom that one's actually not that bad i heard you do it a couple times before the show i was practicing i actually googled the pronunciation of it to try to like i was listening to it over and over again but the first what i clicked was I guess in like an American

pronunciation so it's like Arandisman. Yeah, that would be me. Yeah, you're Arandisman. I want to be Ahrani Small. Actually, if you watched, so Dev just restarted Roney like from season one and I've been like watching a couple of the episodes and Simon and Alex I don't know your experience with these two

but they're the most bizarre couple I've ever seen on Housewives like hands down and they name their son Francois and the Yohan, and they always, like, drop these French accents, mind you, she's from the United States of America, and he is from Australia, okay? Does she have, like, French? She might, she might, I don't know, like, her background. However, like, the way that they talk to their children is, like, me and you trying to

pronounce French words. It's, like, it sounds forced. It's, like, awkward. The kid doesn't speak French, at least at the time when they filmed this, he didn't speak French, and yet they continue to, like, force him to speak French and he's like not interested but it's very derreet of them to do that I can see you know what it's it's a very similar vibe honestly but just like way more bizarre like very strange go check it out you need to

honestly we might have to do that next for our bonus episode yeah because it's it's really really fucking good but um anyway back to potty uh we're back with our girlfriends in Paris and um look I fucking love this show I really do I like everything about it I like I love being in Paris and I love just the vibe and the energy that all of these girls have it's not like dark because they're new to reality TV it's light it's just it's fun and you know we're going to kind of jump around this episode we're not going to do like the full recap but like some of the the big things I want to hit on Casey needs a visa so she's only there for nine days at a time. They do the little bullet points. Like every time they show up on the screen,

it's like Casey, three years, Paris on and off. So was she doing it in like three month increments? I think so. That's what I gathered from is that she has to keep going back and coming back on a traveling visa instead of getting that full-time job visa. And I will say I really like this scene because of Anya. And like I'm starting to really like her. In the beginning, I'm not going to lie. I thought that she was going to be. too much for me. She wasn't going to be my favorite. She really does take on this like motherly role and she actually genuinely cares. And she, even when she's giving advice, it's not condescending. Yeah. Like she's very genuine just trying to help these girls like get their shit together in Paris.

Well, I'm surprised that Anya's first like advice wasn't just marry somebody over here. Yeah, no. She wants. Because I think that's what Anya did. Green card marriage. Oh, really? Well, they're not married yet. And she's been there for 10 years. Yeah. Damn. Good call. Yeah, get out of here, pal. Yeah, no, she does the tours. And I found myself asking what she does for a living, and she described it later. And I guess she was doing the, because she recommended the entrepreneurship visa. And that would be a lot harder for Casey to do.

But it sounds like that's what Anya is doing, so that's probably how she got in there. Casey's doing is entrepreneurship. It's just teaching the English language. It's not like what you would normally think of when you think entrepreneur. But technically speaking, that is her starting her. business of teaching english and anna recommended doing brochures i think she said that she if she's going to go in front of the committee to try to argue for an entrepreneurship visa she has to like be very official like bring pamphlets bring brochures like she's just trying to prep her but we find

out later like our image of ania is this well-off parisian doing her thing like has money she has style she has like does expensive dinners this and that she's broke her and matthew i don't know if they're broke but they her whole life and like all the expensive things that they have it's she's pretty frugal with her mind like she wants to might have been strong yeah she wants to project herself as well off and you know comfortable but she said you know we go to warehouse sales we go to different places to get different things for way less than what the retail price is that's just smart i mean everything out there and I thought about this a little bit later when Emily was talking about her internship, you have

to, in Paris, I mean, they portray this image in the show that you have to dress as if you know what the fashion is that exact day. Everything that you do has to be completely up to date. And I just, I was exhausted just thinking about it. I was going to ask you if you do the same thing when you leave your house. When you come over here to pod, do you like check yourself out and check your fit first? The only thing I do that because I want to make sure that I'm not wearing the same all the time, marron the same hat, whatever. Really, the only time that I do that is probably for golf. Look, good, feel, good, play good.

Rule number one, everyone knows that. We know that. Yeah, I feel you. But I loved, and this is another positive for Anya, I love that she owns it. Like, she's not, we see a lot of housewives across franchises where there is a question about money. There's a question, are they putting on a front? Are they trying to be somebody?

They're not. Are they trying to portray this image of wealth and luxury when they, in fact, have no money or the ability to afford that kind of lifestyle. Anya flat out says yeah we are outliving our means right now but we hope to get things in motion so that we can live the life that we want to live and Matthew there you go is that right met you no we're right the first time did I have it just say Matthew with like a little bit of a pizzazz to it all right well Matt is now he's currently trying to change careers and I guess like this was actually really interesting to me because I didn't know, I guess, in Paris, like, once you have a job or a career, like, that is your job or career.

It's very difficult to transition into a different role or a different field altogether. And, like, she says, you know, I meet a waiter in New York, and two weeks later, they get an acting gig. Here, you meet a waiter, and he's been a waiter for 40 years because that's what he is. He is a waiter. And you find out that he's currently doing what a lot of us do and, like, just trying to figure out what he wants. And I just appreciated the realness of the scene. I appreciated how open they were about it. and they weren't dicks about it.

Like, they're not trying to be something. They're not. And a lot of the housewives over here in the States could learn a thing or two. That's all I'm saying. Oh, that's for sure. But I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that scene. Oh, wait.

Did you fully enjoy the scene, though? I mean, other than the dog eating the hot dog at the table, is that what you're referencing? Yeah, that didn't care for that. But Jaja, the dog's name, Jaja does seem to be very well behaved. I'll give the dog that. Yeah, I mean, as best. much as you can expect a dog to be behaved that gets carried publicly everywhere. 24-7-36-5.

Inside restaurants, inside museums. But she's not causing a ruckus. She's not eating things off of the table that weren't given to her. Just hot dogs. Un-hut-dug. I love that they just call them hud-dugs instead of just a hot dog. I thought they'd have a fancy French word for hot dog, and it's just straight up in-hut-dug. That would be giving the Americans too much, I think.

I think they want to make sure that we know. I did. I love the scene when we're at Emily's internship at Sonia Raquel. And she is like, you know, working the room. She's getting to know some people. I did think it was interesting that as an intern, you can, one, take a picture with one of the people that are featured there on your phone, like take a selfie. I don't know if you can. I mean, I think that was a little questionable.

Yeah, that was definitely a pro pa, if you will. Strolling around with a glass of champagne. Yeah, well, that was normal, I thought. Is that normal? Yeah, I mean, it was a nighttime fashion show that she... But you're an intern. Yeah, but at that point... You're not even working there.

Yeah, you still get to like enjoy the fruits of your labor. She put together, what, 65 gift? I'm not saying that she shouldn't. I would love if that's the rule. Like, yeah, she worked hard. She doesn't have anything to do. Sure, have a glass. I think the wine or champagne or whatever, I think that's fine.

The selfie was too much. I did think this, right? Okay, I wasn't going crazy. But I loved in this. scene she's talking about how like American interns and like Americans at parties like they're walking around she's got a big smile on her face and like it shows her at the party and she in fact does have a big smile on her face and she said the friendship parties and she makes this like kind of stern lowbrow face and it goes like camera in the room and you see a French woman like

sitting there making the same exact face and I laughed out loud because of last week when he said I want to see some like some French stuff like you know they're snooty and like they are look it was a really funny scene because you were in the back of my head and then she played it out very well like the editing was on point so i i enjoyed that as well i do need more of that and the other thing that emily did during that internship i guess uh scene was when before she took the selfie with the other designer she walked over and said in french do you speak english and the designer said yes and she said maybe one sentence in english and then went right back to french yeah like what did you ask for?

What's the point? It's going to be easier on me to speak English than French, but I'm just going to go try to butcher some French over here. See, but she sounds fluent to me. She does, but she said on multiple occasions, I'm not really good at speaking French. I'd rather speak English. It could be the captions that they give her,

because the captions make it seem like she's getting her point across very well. Oh, yeah. Because they're just straight up, like this is what she's saying. Maybe if we have any French listeners or French speaking listeners, and you can comment on whether her French is up to par or not, let us know. Otherwise, we're going to have to take Rosetta Stone and figure it out for ourselves. Don't threaten me with a good time. I'm fine with that.

Language of love. And we do see a little bit of an insight to Victoria's day-to-day with Chloe Collette and, I mean, her strange relationship with Johan now. Oh, yeah. I was a Yohan fan. The first episode, I thought, like, when he stood up to her cheating. I was like, oh, this guy's cool. Come to find out, might not be so cool.

No, not cool at all. I mean, he was, what, 30 minutes late to that meeting? 30 minutes late, and then very, very laxidaisical. Didn't seem to give a shit. He had the front-facing camera on. He was just taking a look at himself, just to make sure everything looked good. He looked okay. Like, dude, be present in the meeting.

You're 30 minutes late, and then you're not going to pay attention. And then they're all upset with him, understandably so. And then we find out that he's been going, behind Victoria's back, reaching out to her friends about being their stylist. Well, now, what do you think about him doing that for Casey for free? But then when he goes to Margot, he says $1,000. I think it's horseshit. And she has to pay for her.

That's definitely like, because obviously Casey is fighting for a visa. She's working any job that she possibly can. And she's presumably struggling to afford the apartment that she lives in. And then you have Margot whose dad pays for pretty much everything. No, no, he does pay for everything. Yeah. So that's an easy target. for Yoan at that point.

I mean, it's definitely a bad look for him. And my takeaway from it is if this is really going to be like a main focus point moving forward, I'm a little upset about that because it's not internal drama between the girls. It's this other, you know, third party character that's kind of bouncing around. It's not one of the girlfriends. So that's kind of annoying if that ends up being a thing. Hopefully it's not.

Hopefully it's just a one and done. But it does look like Victoria kind of has it out with him next week. I guess that'll be good. Again, I just don't want it to drag on. I don't want it to drag on, but I do want to see it. And I also think that this could carry over into a multitude of issues because if that creates beef with Casey, what if she's upset that she's upset that Yohan's doing it?

And now she doesn't have her stylist because Victoria's pissed that Yohan's doing it in the first place. Now Casey's mad at Victoria. There's a lot of things here. Well, Yohan was taking dresses and stuff from Chloe Collette. I had a lot of questions about it. it actually. So I don't know if that's, but I mean, he was, I guess, given these clothes and he ends of just giving them over to Casey. If Casey then shows up at a party and Victoria's there and

she's wearing Chloe Collette, Victoria's going to be like, what the fuck is this? How did you get that? Where'd this come from? And then it's going to come to light anyway. So it's kind of ignorant of Yoan to be like, let me just do all this stuff behind Victoria's back and not check with her. It's going to come to late no matter what you do. So it's pretty stupid. Again, it's Yeah, I'm interested to see that blow up next week. Okay. But again, I just don't want it to drag on. I'd rather there be drama between the girls.

No, I agree. Or not at all. You know what? Maybe we just need a drama-free show, for God's sake. If this is just a light, breezy journey through Paris for the next like six weeks to eight weeks, like I'm fine. That's good. I need a breather before we dive into another housewives franchise. I just need like a deep breath.

Before they do four episodes in the Alps. Four episodes in Aspen. Oh, I see what you did there. Yeah. Yeah, nice, nicely done right over my head. That takes us to South Carolina. We're back with the Southern Charm crew. I just want to touch on a few things here.

Again, we don't have to do the whole gambit. Really not a lot there, to be honest. No, but the things that I do want to note, the girls' dinner was juxtaposed the whole time to the gentleman's dinner. Always love that. With Patricia. So here's my first thing. I have to give credit.

where credits do. Patricia was fucking hysterical. She really was. She was so fucking funny. When she said, I guess I'm just, you are the company you keep, I guess I'm just a B-list fuck boy then.

I laughed out loud. I did too. I was like, oh my God, that was one of the best lines I've ever heard on Bravo. This must be why we were getting so much heat

for hating on Patricia and Whitney. Maybe we didn't know any better. I mean, Whitney still sucks. I know, but like people lumped them together. Yeah, but you can't.

You really can't. Especially after this episode. God, and the way that he calls her mom all the time, whatever. But leave Whitney aside, I thought Patricia was delightful. Yeah, no, she was great. And, like, she got hammered and they all got hammered. It was a very funny evening from start to finish. She said, I think, if I have one more glass of champagne, I'm going to end up on the ground.

Yeah. Probably three or four times. But it was funny because they were all drinking like that. You had Craig over here, who he started off with champagne, then moved to old fashions, then went to red wine, then back to old fashion. Yeah, that's a tough hangover. That's a fucking journey. I mean, I was hung over even watching it. Yeah, I was too, and that's saying a lot. Yeah. But he spilled the red wine.

Do you believe that that couch was $45,000? Yeah. I do too. Yeah. I can't begin to imagine what I would feel if I spilled red wine on a fucking $45,000 anything. But, and the thing that actually got me was Shep was right. Shep was like, you can take that back to your shop and fix it up, right? Like, that's the same thing that I was thinking. I'm like, Craig can probably handle that. No, I thought that Shep was, first of all, I thought Shep was trying to take digs at him all night to like, this was his moment because Craig was like looking like shit.

So he was just like pointing out every single flaw and acting like, oh my God, that's just Craig being Craig again. Like, 45,000. That's just another day at sewing down south, right? Oh, ho. Like, he did his fucking whole thing. And then poor Craig couldn't catch a break because then he'd be. breaks an $18,000 chair or $25,000 chair. He breaks the leg off of that, but he's okay there because Whitney does it like 20 minutes later. Yeah. So the chairs are Patricia's fault for getting

18th century wood and having people sit on it. Like that's drunk crazy. Drunk men. Drunk men sitting on 18th century chairs. No one should sit on an 18th century chair. If you at home have an 18th century chair, don't fucking sit on it. No. Put it on a pedestal and like show it off for buying some weird shit. But you go right back to the girls dinner and they addressed, you know, Leva has shit with Vanita because of a text that was read or seen by Madison from Leva saying,

and like when I saw the text, it didn't even seem that bad. I guess Leva and Madison had like a little minuscule spat and they squashed it or whatever. And Leva just texted Vanita like, hey, sorry about that. Like, she's dumb. She is dumb. Not she is so dumb. I'm like, oh, my God, she's so stupid.

It was like, she is dumb. Like, I think I've said that about you and text to other people. Like, yeah, dude, he's dumb, whatever. Yeah, and that was fine. And we also got the, I guess you can call it a resolution between Catherine and Naomi. Via Whitney. Via hooking up with Whitney, which was kind of funny. And they, I mean, they were adults about it.

You could see the two of them. I mean, Naomi's had a bad couple of episodes with the whole Craig shit. And with hooking up with Whitney, which is also inexcusable. It's just baff. It's baff. It hurts my fucking brain. Well, Patricia put it best. She's a lovely girl. I just don't know what she's doing with Whitney. Yeah, I don't either. Very funny. But the two of them actually talking like adults, and obviously Catherine's still a little fucked up from the whole Caleb Schleb situation. And she didn't do what I thought she was going to do.

I thought that she was going to just go right at Naomi and still believe Caleb, even though they just broke up, about that whole interaction that they had in Olivia's backyard. And she didn't. She was like, you know what? He, I just didn't believe it. When he turned away and I could see him talking, I just should have known. I should have trusted my gut, whatever she said. It was a very adult moment between the two of them. And then Catherine comes back and says, you know, I like Naomi.

I think she's a good person. That's the Naomi that I met. Yeah. Yeah. That's the Naomi that I met. I just wish she wasn't such a bitch. Yeah. She can't help herself.

Yeah. She can't just have the nice moment. She's got to double down. Exactly. And then going back to what you were talking about, I guess they, Levin and Madison had gotten into a spat at the dog party about Madison still showing feelings towards Austin. And we saw it again. I mean, they, she was going at Austin, asking him a bunch of questions about how weird he is around her and this and that. And it does look like she still has feelings for Austin. It does look like she's at the very least just trying to get a rise out of him, like try to get him pissed off that she's now engaged to quote unquote fight for her. I mean, she's. she's nuts. It's like some screwyard crush bullshit where you're like trying to neg the other person. I don't know. Like I don't know what her fucking endgame.

I think she just likes to see him upset, honestly. I think she does too. And it comes off to the rest of the group. Like she still has feelings for Austin. So it's a bad look. And Vanita, which Austin claimed a couple weeks ago when they were going up to All Brass, that Vanita is just Madison's little minion. She's just reporting all the things that happened.

And we kind of see a little bit, it wasn't as bad as I. I thought it was going to be, but Vanita claims that she was, she just handed Madison her phone and said put on a song and she saw it. I don't fucking believe that. I know. It was such a bullshit. She absolutely saw it and then pointed it right. She said, yeah, she said, look at this.

Without a doubt in my mind, that's what happened. But it all culminates with like the least surprising news ever. And it starts getting like spread around the internet like wildfire that Shep's Raya account is still active and it's located in Bermuda. And he goes on to try to explain it away where he's like, yeah, like me and her were on a quick break and, like, I was trying to figure myself out. So I got on a flight to Bermuda because who doesn't just do that when they need to think? Like, I was going to pop down to Bermuda and get my shit together.

I'll be back in a couple of weeks, but whatever. So I went down to Bermuda to get my shit together, and then I opened my account and, like, it's just been on. Now, fine, okay, like, whatever. But when Craig's like, dude, deactivated, he's like, no, why, what the fuck, if you're not being sketchy, if you're not being shady, if you're not doing stupid shit like that, why can't you delete the account? even to the point where Austin, and I love this reaction out of Austin, and you're right, Austin grew on me. So, hats off to you, but he's like, fuck, fuck, fucking fuck, Shep. Like, what else am I supposed to say?

And I, what do you say? These guys constantly defend him, and he keeps doing Shep stuff. Well, it was crazy because the timing was perfect. They were sitting at dinner, and let me just touch on this really quick. I felt so bad for the friend Chef. He was the most stressed out guy in the kitchen. and there was so much lack of communication. He just wanted to give them the food because it's been ready.

And they were sitting up there like, well, he's going to let us know when the food's ready. No, he's waiting for you to sit down. I think that's customs. So just do it. So here, I'll do this just once, okay? Oh, yeah, private chef speaking in. Yeah, so I am a private chef, and this happened to me. So I had a private dinner, and there was a miscommunication, okay?

We had to wait stuff helping out, and one of them came in and said, hey, they want to know when dinner's ready. I said, oh, great, like, we're good to go. Like, go let them know. And, like, five minutes later, 10 minutes later, like, I am good to go. My food's hot. It's very difficult. Like, the hardest part of that whole process is not the cooking of the food. It's timing it up to get everything out while it's still hot.

So you present yourself in the best way possible. Now, 10 minutes later, I'm like, what's going on? Like, are they sitting down yet? She comes in and she says, are you ready for them yet? And I was like, dude, I just told you, I told you 10 minutes ago. like now they're like restless because now they're asking me where the food is the food is now a little bit colder than I would want it to be it's not like cold and it was still wonderful you know of course naturally so just to answer your question to give you a little bit of background like yes that that kind of stuff does happen there is some miscommunications as to who's supposed to tell who when to sit and where to like all of that stuff so i i got that scene and felt his pain so much i get that and he already started off by having patricia should request a well-done duck. Don't even...

Yeah, so we won't even dig into that. No, he won't even say... That's why I love this dude because he won't even say it. He's not even going to say the words out loud. He goes, here is your duck. I prepared it the way you like. I'm not going to say it out loud.

And I was like, I feel you because duck should never be well done. No meat should never be well done, but especially not duck. That would be like chewing on leather. But he was a good dude and we'll move away from him. I just wanted to give him a little bit of one shining. moment he deserves it for waiting for so long to serve the escargo i'm sure those snails were rubbery as hell i'm sure they were and i'm happy i didn't have to eat them oh no escargo is good i like escargo when it's when it's done but yeah like not well done oh nice but that timing for

shep's article couldn't have come in a better time patricia was asking him about taylor and they started off the conversation by saying you guys are all in relationships do you think you're going to end up with the person that you're with you think it's going to end in marriage and Craig immediately says yes he says if I don't end up marrying Paige I'm going to be pretty upset with that I don't really know what would have went wrong great answer great job Craig

Craig and page still at the top of the charts then we move over to Shep because obviously Austin and Olivia just started dating Whitney and Naomi who the fuck knows and Shep is going through the whole thing with Taylor it seems pretty genuine he calls her an angel like 15 different times and right when that happens

Craig gets the text. I assume he got it from Page because Page is kind of on top of those things. So he gets the text about Shep's Raya article or Raya article. How do you say it? I think it's Raya. It's rich people Tinder.

That's fair. So he gets that text about that. Immediately gestures towards Austin, goes into the other room. They have it out. And that's the appropriate response. You don't want to be sitting, especially Craig being drunk,

You don't want to be sitting on this landmine to go back to the Charlotte episode and sit on it by yourself. You need to at least bring somebody else into the fold, kind of talk about what you want to do. They decide that they want to talk about it right then and there. And yeah, I mean, Shep's response, I will give him this. He did say, you know, it was two years ago. I think him and Dale have been dating for two years. He said it was two years ago, so it was very early on. How did we know that, though?

You're giving me a lot of credit assuming that it was actually two years ago. We don't, but they seem to understand when he said Bermuda. And I think Craig or Austin, one of the two of them, actually figured it out. I mean, knowing Austin or Craig, they were probably both on the app, so they understand how it works. And it registers your last known location while using the app. So if they know that he was in Bermuda two years ago. When's the last time he was in Bermuda? That's what I think they would understand, because they're all close friends, despite appearances.

I think they would know, like, if you went to Bermuda two years ago, I'd be like, yeah, it was probably two years ago. well yeah that's fair i just he is claiming that when he has a tough day he goes down to bermuda so it's not like me and you because he can't pop down to a country i think he undersold it i don't think that he just bopped over to bermuda i think that he had a plan trip to bermuda and that was part of it you're giving ship a whole lot of credit and i don't care for it really no i'm just saying i think that the end of it of him not deleting the account is wild maybe he's waiting to discuss it with Taylor and then kind of go from there and just say, look, I'm going to delete it in front of you rather than deleting it then.

He's not going to do that. He doesn't have the sense of self to do that. You're right. I'm just thinking as a logical person here. Well, stop it. You're pissing me off. That takes us to the main event, the Robha, the Beverly Hills. Still haven't gotten a Robha out of anybody.

So I'm keeping my fingers crossed. that's in my near future. But tonight's episode was very entertaining. And I've been waiting for an episode to keep me captivated the whole time. And I will say, this one did it. And that might be because, once again, I was expecting what I think we're going to get next week because we're now on the fourth fucking day of Aspen,

which I think I thought three days was too much. Four days is ridiculous. It's got to end up for four, right? I don't know. At this point, they might drag it out for another four and then like take us into the reunion. In Aspen. But we start out with just like the aftermath of the night before.

And there's two very different viewpoints here. There's Kyle and that crew that are appalled at Erica's behavior, that she can't just fucking understand that they just want her to show compassion. This is not about whether you're guilty or not. This is not anybody saying you are guilty. All of these women, weirdly enough, like they all do. don't question that you did anything wrong. Like, and to her credit, like, she has been absolved of one of the cases.

We have later found out this episode that she was dismissed in Illinois. They're just refiling in California. But they just want her to say, you feel bad for the people that died and their families. That's all. And she's upset with how they talk to her. She doesn't even for a second understand like she came off as the asshole the night before. it's so weird to me to watch it and like the two different factions you got her what did she do like she packed up and left right she packed up and left right well i guess she left then came back later

and then packed everything up with durie so dorit helped her pack everything a little quicker got everything out of kyle's house and just left whoever dorit is with she is siding with by the way oh my god absolutely i mean she just went she went over to diana's and then diana's i guess is just a safe Haven. So people are going to go over there. So it makes Diana look better. Yeah, right. Diana the fucking savior. Yeah. I mean, well, we'll get to it later, but Diana had one redeeming moment during the whole episode. I was, I was, I was completely baffled by that. I assume it's a move. It has to be. But yeah, so she packs up and leaves in the middle of the night. Kyle wakes up the next day and she's like, okay, Eric is completely gone. That kind of breaks my heart a little bit

as if she wasn't heard enough from the night before. And yeah, I mean, this is now two mornings in a row that we have factions of people just sitting around talking about what happened the night before. And it is kind of nice to see that because you get different opinions and everybody kind of keeps splintering in different directions, which is nice too. And this is kind of more of what we want. We wanted a little bit more of a difference being made, people going to different groups and agreeing with different sides instead of just, all right, here's the usual suspects that are going to blindly follow one person or two people

and just explain their asses off. And then we have the other people that are the right side just trying to figure it out. Now we're getting a little bit of everything. And Dorek coming in to help Erica pack is a bad move. Bad move. Just let Erica, she's capable of packing herself. She can do it herself.

It's not a big deal. You're going to put yourself in a bad position with Kyle, which we later see. And everybody's just kind of shell-shocked. Like, what the fuck just happened? Why did she do that? And I think to your point, I mean, she refuses to show any compassion, and that's the only thing that anyone wants. That's what the viewer wants, too. Just one word.

Just be like, look, I'm sorry. I guess you can't say I'm sorry in a legal process, whatever. She just has to say it is sad that people died. It is sad that people were screwed out of money. I don't think that that's a problem. And I think that she's so tied up in the legal process that the way her brain is operating right now, she can't show any compassion. or remorse for anything because she feels like that makes her guilty. Yeah, and like before we get the comments on TikTok saying, like,

we don't understand the stance she's taking. I get what she's trying to do. I get her standpoint is that if she sympathizes with these victims, she is admitting guilt in some way, shape, or form. That's what she could be used against her in the court of law. Which is crazy because everything that she's doing right now can be used against her in the court of law. That's like a character defamation. Like, I don't think she gets that.

Instead, she's coming off as just like, a cold-hearted person that's not just say that it's sad that people died. That's all anybody wants. That's all you have to fucking say. It's so simple and you could get all of these women off your back. You could make the group totally fine. We get back to just like

the boring Sutton nonsense which I don't want to see, but... No, I think Sutton's not a good job of removing herself from everything. It's awesome. She's so funny with it too. She's like, I am retired. I am not doing this anymore. You can go do it to Crystal, which I will get to later on. But yeah, she is checking.

out of it entirely, which she should. Like, she has no reason to get involved in that again. I mean, the whole episode pretty much is just leading up to when we get to Kimosabi. And that's Kyle's favorite hat store. And look, it looks like a good time. It did. Am I going to lie to you and say, I haven't worn a cowboy hat? No.

I have. Yeah. You know, cowboy hats in the right vibe, they look good. And those hats they had at that store, they looked great. Yeah, I went to one. I was out in Vail and they have a chemist hobby out there. Now granted, it was during COVID, so we didn't have our choice of tequila. But if we did, I think I probably would have gone with Kathy'skegila, just to make her feel a little bit better.

The fact that that happened. Well, Rinnett is, I mean, that was fucked up. Well, it was 100% a move. Like, she was trying to be a dick and mission accomplished. Like, she's been pushing this shit for episode after episode. Like, you know that she wants you to drink her tequila. Whether it's a marketing ploy for her own company or not, just drink the fucking tequila.

Just make her happy in that moment. She made an effort to point out that they had it. Rina brings up the fact that, oh, yeah, she definitely planted that. Like, this is all a move. Is that true? Quite possibly yes. Probably. You know what?

Like, fine. But that being said, just have, like, a quervo or a patron. Don't get Kendall Jenner's tequila and announce to the room. This is my friend Kendall Jenner's tequila. And while you're drinking it, make all of the ooze and ins. Well, look, are they friends? Rina and Kendall Jenner? I have no idea. I don't think so. I would imagine. I'm going to go with no. There's no way that they're not somewhat tight. They're both big in the modeling world. Just because they know each other. It doesn't mean that they're, I don't know. As far as like, I mean, I think they would both claim

that they're friends in like, yeah, we're friends. Whatever. And that, but that actually proves the point more. So yeah, you know what? To keep this going. Yeah, like to sit there and announce to the room and then make all those sounds like, oh my God, this is so good. And it's, this tastes sweet to me. Like, you're making an effort to attack Kathy in that moment. And like, did Kathy handle it great? No.

Like, she should have just, like, kind of brushed it off and then like, whatever, fuck you. And, like, settle down instead of kind of take, I actually felt for Kyle this episode a little bit. Yeah. Like, instead of taking it on Kyle there, like, just swallow your pride and like Renna's being an asshole and just accept that. Like, she's making herself look bad in this moment. You don't have to storm out. and go off on your own.

But I thought that was such a dick move. I really did. I didn't like that at all. The whole thing, and you've got Kimasabi going on, and then you have Erica, Diana, and Doree just kind of doing their own thing.

And before they got the Kema Zabi, I think the majority of them went and got some coffee, got a croissant or two, had a nice breakfast, just kind of getting the day started. And the other three, fine. You want to start your own day off and not get thrown right in.

the mix right away after last night fine if that's what you want to do go for it but to then go shopping and i guess they locked the door because they had you know cameras and the three of them were in there they didn't want random people walking in now when you go to like like uber expensive stores when they have like high profile clients like they will lock the doors so that nobody can get in yeah that's the run of the mill yeah that's along the same lines i was it didn't look like they were trying anything on or anything they were just sitting down talking so i think that they they locked it, and which was kind of funny, Reni even said later, it's not that big of a town.

I can probably go find them. She did. They end up finding them without even looking. They were just walking by and you get Kathy looking a little homeless, just like banging on the door. And the guy's like, the door's locked. Should I open it? Every single one of them.

No, no. They turn around. They suddenly like, for this group of hard asses to not be like, yeah, let them in. Let's solve this. Like, they're all the tough ones. They all talk this big game. I could see, I mean, I could see Erica just be like, no, I don't want to talk to them. Diana said no for Erica's sake.

And Dereet was walking over. Doreet turned her back. And said no. She turned her back to it and walked away like, no, like scoffed almost. It's like, I didn't think you were at odds with these women. No. Like she's now creating a problem because she does what Doret does, whoever she's with, she takes their side. So she's automatically on Erica's side.

And the way that she explained it was if one of my friends is hurt and they're, you know, they're spiraling down, I'm always going to come to that friend. Yeah, I haven't seen that. But that doesn't mean that you turn your back on everybody else, like save some face, and walk over to the door and say, Eric is not really ready to talk to everybody. We'll meet you guys over there. Or, you know, maybe I'll just come over later. Any of the above would have been okay. But again, we're speaking logically. Yeah, you're right. My bad. Kyle's back at her house. Kathy is back at her house after leaving. And they are totally fine

because Kathy's just acting like nothing happened again kind of felt for Kyle like she's pretty upset well no I thought that was good because usually Kathy boils over to the next thing and Kyle was fully expecting that so when Kyle got home and saw the Kathy was in good spirits I thought she was like oh thank God I don't have to deal with this now in her confessional she's like I'd rather just not address it and keep the family together then bring it up but they're getting ready to go to dinner and Dorit gets to Kyle's house and Kyle is extremely upset I've never seen her yell at Doreet like that. I did love this episode.

You saw like breakdowns between the Fox Force, whatever. Like the girls that we never see fight are finally fighting. And I was like, fuck yeah, finally we get to see some action here. All it takes for it to be settled is Mo coming into the picture and being like, you guys disagree about a third party here, like just get over it. And they immediately get over it. Well, you know what he did say. He said for the sake of me and P.K.

Right. I feel like I need to. So we brought him and P.K.'s best friendship into this. Like, I'm not going to stop being friends of this guy just because you guys are fighting. Look, this is my boy. You guys need to figure this shit out. But it didn't get squashed until after this made me physically angry. Like, I was so pissed about hearing this.

She's like, Erica was broken. She was sobbing. She was like, you could see her breaking. And I needed to be there for. What the fuck? what about Sutton like how is that not the same fucking thing that we witnessed in Aspen two episodes ago where they just ripped her apart and like because Sutton is not part of that crew and we see it time and time again now I will ask you this this is something that you know I was thinking while watching

Kyle didn't have Dorit stay at her house she had her stay at a proxy house yes Derreet then felt a little unsafe she even brought it up and PK even brought it up why aren't you staying at Kyle's house do you think this is a little bit of a get back at Kyle to side with Erica, not really save any face with Kyle and to go then go stay with Diana and remove herself even further from the situation? Do you think this is a little tip-for-tat action by Doree? If I'm thinking logically, no, absolutely not.

That's only something a crazy person would do. Now, in the realm of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, yes, 100%. There was some kind of move being made there where she was, like, taking her little dig at Kyle because she's pissed off about not being immediately put in the house. Now, flip that. Was Kyle putting her in the other house a subtle dig at Doreet?

No, I don't think so, because if you break it down, what are there? I mean, Kathy's sleeping in bunk beds. Kathy's her sister. And Rina just came off of some issues with Sutton and whoever else. So it makes more sense to have Rida there. I think that Kyle was just like this is how much room I have in the house sorry, Doreet, like you're going to have to

go stay with them because normally when we see this, Doreet's pretty copesthetic with everybody no matter who she's with, she'll just kind of mold to that friendship. So I don't want to call her a chameleon, but I guess she is kind of a chameleon with that, not in a good way. No. She doesn't really have we see her own personality, but

whoever she's with is kind of what she portrays herself as. I didn't see her removing herself all the way to Dianna's because She felt unsafe or whatever. But no, I really don't think it was a dig. I could see Doreet taking it as a dig, though. And that's why she did this. Yeah, no, I totally agree with that.

And this is just all building up. Again, they make up with very little hesitation. Like, it's squashed immediately, which pissed me off. But whatever. They're all headed to dinner. I thought the cut scene with Sheree saying that she's constipated was, one, very funny and two, very relatable. Because I know when I travel, the same thing happens. TMI probably really but hey yeah that's a shame yeah I know it's a bummer but sorry to hear that

no we don't have to like keep harping on it but I was just like does that happen when you go to Bermuda for a couple days just to get away I have some issues I just need to pop down to Bermuda for a minute well and I did like and I continue to like that house I mean Sutton Garcel Shiree Crystal they're all they're having a good trip they are having a good trip Sutton took a little bit too much time to get ready and she comes up and Garcell's like what the fuck was that like dog years 10 minutes And then Sutton just like waves her bag in her face and like messes with her. And they're all laughing and have a good time.

That's what I like to see, a little lighthearted action with our friends. Well, we needed it right before this dinner. But this dinner was like I actually did like a fist pump because of this dinner. And I'm so excited to get into it because now they're at Silver City. It's like this cowboy bar and like we have the factions pretty clearly cut. Like throughout this episode, we have seen confessionals of women being much more outspoken than we haven't seen in the past like crystal is starting to find her voice again and at just the right time and in just the right way like we're seeing her start to bring some things up

like what the fuck is going on and then we see erika and kyle who are arguably the most at odds in erika's mind because she feels like kyle was the ringleader of the night before they're talking at the bar and it's not even that difficult of a conversation it's both of them kind of like easing off the gas pedal a little bit like Kyle does double down and say like you know we just want you to feel compassion we want to know that you feel bad and she can't even do that in that moment but instead of Kyle like attacking it again she just backs down and like they just make up and they're fine and they hug and Kyle's like I'm not normally a hugger but I want to hug you and like they're both teary eyed and I don't want to gloss over we did say that Diana had one moment tonight yeah Diana did have one moment

during that exchange at the store where the door was locked and she was just like everybody else trying to get Erica to just say that she was sorry or felt bad for the victims and she just portrayed this whole situation okay you never married Tom you're not even part of this you just read this in the paper

don't you feel bad for the people that died can't answer can't do it can't do it what the fuck like how twisted is your mind with this legal process that you can't even do that. It's crazy. And even Diana's like, if you don't feel it for the victims, like that, that would be really bad. Yeah, and it would be. And like you said, like we get back to the Silver City Bar.

And I think that the way that Eric is thinking and the reason that she was feeling like Kyle was the ringleader, even though Kyle really wasn't the ringleader, she just got loud at the end. It was mostly Garcel and Crystal. She has been at odds with Garcel before and she's probably just a little bit immune to it. Crystal, she really doesn't care about. We kind of saw that a little bit later. But to see, and it's more what we want to see where this main group just kind of goes at odds with each other and actually gets into arguments and starts to fight and break apart a little bit, maybe. I think that's what she thought. She's so reliant on Doree, Kyle, Rinnett, just always have her back no matter what she says that Kyle doing that caught her off guard, made her leave the house, made her do all this shit.

I think that she was so shocked that that happened. that that's why she felt like Kyle was the ringleader. And then as soon as it's over, they just start making fun on the whole situation. Which was such a bad look. It's just so tone deaf, and I can't emphasize enough how many times we've said tone deaf

or just completely oblivious to what's going on around them. And it's so bad to watch. And I was watching with Colleen tonight, and she said, I really do think that these women, they are so far removed from like a tragic event, like a plane crash, that it just that type of shit doesn't happen in their world

that they actually don't really feel that bad for the victims that's actually a valid point that might be a valid point it's just not in their head to do that they just can't put themselves in the mindset they don't even think about things like that maybe diana does again we're giving diana props but she does charitable organizations she does things der reits is homeless not toothless whatever but they just don't really seem phased by it and to be able to make a joke afterwards and like make fun of Erica the way that she was behaving the night before is

crazy yeah and it was so like and i hate to use this word but like cringy i love that we went to the confession with garcel and she's like if this was anybody else if this wasn't one of these like four women like if this was sudden like this wouldn't be squashed ever and then crystal has a confession and she says the same exact thing i was like fuck yeah like this group is becoming like self-aware this group is becoming like united like they are starting to understand and take a stance like look these girls are not going to back the fuck down like we maybe they were hoping that this would be a breaking point as we all were where there's going to be some divides here we don't see it and then crystal calls attention to it and we get a quick

cut to crystal's talking to dorit and we like see the first stance being taken by crystal like this is where she plants her first foot in the sand and she says to dorit like i don't agree with this at all like why can't she see any compassion and I never thought I would hear this out of Doread's mouth. She's like, well, we don't know everything that happened. Like she has been, I think, on the side of like, yeah, like, just feel like, she's talked to Kyle about this and like, yeah, she needs to like understand that there's victims here. And it's said, like, there are victims here.

She now like flips a 180 and starts to defend Erica against Crystal only because I don't think she feels a different way. I do think she still thinks there's victims. I think in that moment she's like, oh, you can't come after my girl. No, I'm going to take a stance here. You don't talk about Erica like that. and she goes back at crystal. Yeah, it's hypocritical to herself in the confessionals.

Every confessional that she's done thus far, she's saying, do I really think that she doesn't want to show compassion? Does it really hurt me that she's not saying that she feels sorry for the victims? Yes, but she's entitled to her opinion, blah, blah, blah. Doreet said that she feels bad for them. And now, once this happens, like you said,

it's almost as if this other group smells a little bit of blood in the water like let's start to get them at ends and they just coupled together they being Doreet and Rina who have said all day we know that she should feel sorry for these victims

we understand that we would like it if she said it as soon as one of the other people starts coming at her in front of them their next sense kicks in and they just start defending Erica blindly it's crazy crazy it was fucking nuts but it was perfect because that is the spark that Crystal needed.

Crystal, comeback story of the fucking century. Oh, yeah, big time. She was tough to watch early on. Then she kind of like sat back, was taking her time to the point where we're like, you know, Crystal needs to do something. She was just waiting, dude. She was waiting for the right time. She felt it.

She knew what she wanted to say. And she came out swinging and she fucking lands a haymaker. And it was awesome. Her and Sutton talk quickly. Sutton's like, something needs to be said. I'm not saying it. I'm retired. Yep. I got your back. And Crystal fucking puts her head down and walks

right in the other room, sits down, and immediately goes in on Erica. And it's a good move by Sutton not getting involved because once Sutton gets involved, it becomes a whole different thing. Yep. Sutton doesn't really have a voice in this group. She can't bring, she can't call attention to anything. Even if she chimed in after Crystal

had done that, they would have just attacked Sutton and that would have been the new topic. Yes. But Erica goes on the defense a little bit and says, when we were down in Mexico and I gave you a hug because of all the things that you were going through. You can't do that for me. Not the same situation. It's not at all.

And Crystal doesn't back down. She just keeps coming forward and coming forward. And Garcel's sitting there with a smile on her face because she's like, for once, it's not me doing this. And when you need me, I will tap in. And that's what happened. And Crystal, like, very calm and collected said, you've had issues with Garcel. You don't like take it out on her.

You guys seem fine. But with me, it's like an ever-ending issue. And she's like, I don't have anything with Garcel. Garcel, Garcel, like, has stood up for me or something along those lines. And Garcel's like, whoa, whoa, no, I didn't. Like, I didn't do that at all. And Crystal's like, yeah. And it's just like, you think I'm an asshole.

And she says, you are an asshole. And this is what I love about the difference in the dynamics of these two factions. The one, Crystal, Sutton, Garcel. They use logic. They're pointed in their arguments, and they use evidence to back up what they're saying. The other group, they go for gaslighting, they go for personal attacks, and they throw insults out there, which nothing questions your credibility more than when somebody presents a point and you counter with just an insult.

It's never a good move. It comes out like you're stupid and that you don't have a good rebuttal and that makes you seem wrong, which, by the way, you are fucking wrong. All of those women on that side of this table are wrong. And I loved seeing this fucking moment where our girls, our crew finally gets a voice and they stand firm. They're not getting backed down by this group of bullies. and like it was just it was so refreshing it's like if that's what we were building up to this season

wasn't enough for me to be like oh this was a good season absolutely not was it a great fucking reprieve from all the bullshit we've been watching 100% yes yeah and twice in three nights we get a you are though as a response to name calling yeah that's all they can do they have no other ammo and that just goes to show you that they're fucking in the wrong they're not right yeah and i mean with any hope in the world this season will end with at least one or two people just getting mixed out because i think we now see that we have a good group over here it's a good crew like yes we do need some of the drama they're probably going to keep erika out there but you know if that core four starts drop off a little bit you get rid out of there it's going to be

way more of an even match and right now it doesn't even look like an even match it looks like team logic is winning. Team logic's winning this battle. And to build on what you were saying, if this becomes our core group, Shari is not a huge fan of Sutton. Now, like, I don't want to see somebody new just come after Sutton for the same reasons that we've been seeing. But if there's some drama in this group because Shari and Sutton don't vibe that well, then it's like new drama and it's not her just like recycling all the shit that she's heard from these other women. Like, I'm okay with that. And that might cause a rift with the other women because Sheree and Garcell are super close. Like, there's a lot of new dynamics that can be presented there. Like, just because

a new group of women that are getting along now, like, they are united against the same front. If you remove that from the equation, we could see some fireworks. So I think that that's the route that they need to go. I'm excited and hope that is the route that they go. And that pretty much like wraps up the night. Like the only thing that we finally get, and I was wondering if it was even going to happen, we get scenes from next week. And it's very ominous.

It's like a Law and Order episode. It's like, doom, later that night. and like it shows a text and it's well before they even got to the text and they did I think two or three total later than nights several hours later later than that and you get I guess a couple of them are going home the rest of them are just going to quote unquote pop in for a drink maybe at the club Kathy says I don't know if I'm going to be welcome in there and apparently the last time that she was there she tried to put on Chris Jenner's coat and there was a whole thing with that where they thought that she was taking her coat and she she's worried that she's not going to be able to get in. And that kind of sets it up a little bit because Kathy's already feeling like she might not be able to get in and we'll see how that goes. But then we get the texts and they show the text after that. And I guess it's to Lisa and then there's one to Kyle.

And I don't know what to expect, honestly. I don't either. It's, you know, I'm not going to even speak on it because I don't know what we're going to see. We've heard inklings that, again, I'm not touching. I'm just going to wait and see what happens. but is this the Aspen that we were expecting? If so, then I don't know why they had to make it four episodes, but... I thought it was actually...

You're going to hate this. I hate you. I thought that the Aspen trip, these episodes have been better than the rest of the season. You know what? I actually do agree with that. Maybe it's because I've been expecting this one thing to happen. An Aspen that hasn't happened yet. So maybe that's why, because I'm constantly like, is it happening this episode?

No, and then they keep throwing curveballs with different things that also happened. I didn't even expect, I didn't expect these curveballs, but maybe that's why, because I agree. These have been the most cohesive and like coherent Housewives episodes of like reminiscent of things that we actually enjoy watching. So yes, I agree. These four episodes have been good. It's just this fucking season, dude. I know. It really is.

And I think really the only thing that makes the Aspen trip better is that it forces them all to be together the whole time. Right. Where we don't get, oh, Sutton and Rina just went out to lunch. and then we have to talk about it afterwards. Like it's more of the same. In this way, everything just happens in front of everybody. Two full groups get to talk about it, then come back together.

Another thing happens, so on and so forth. That's way more of an ideal setup, I guess, for a storyline than having, you know, a couple little lunch dates and things like that in there. So I'm enjoying it, honestly, these last couple episodes, I'm having a good time. Well, hopefully they tie a big bow on it

and they wrap this season up in a positive way. I'm excited to see the reunion. I heard it was like very emotional. I heard there was a lot of shit popping off. So I'm excited to see the reunion. I'm excited to be done with this season and move on to Potomac. Like I can't fucking wait. But we're still here in the trenches for you, bro, bros out there.

And we will continue to do our work. Yeah, and study for the bar so that we can answer your legal questions and comments. We can get after those TikTok legal issues. That takes us to our questions portion of the show. We have a lot of questions. We're not going to be able to get to them all, but we'll do our best. Up first from Joe underscore kill, one, two, three. Did Derek do Coke in the bathroom?

Which bathroom and when? I didn't notice. Yeah. That's a very funny question. I don't know. I'm not going to say yes or no because I'm not sure what you're referencing, but. Maybe. Funny question.

Yeah, I don't know. From Colton Nemichek. What's happening? Hold on. Colton Nemechek's question, were people doing Coke in your bathroom? Where is this coming from? Who's bathroom? I don't know.

Our bathroom? No, no one's doing Coke here. Yeah, what the hell? What, did we miss something tonight? I guess. No, nobody was. Yeah, no. From C.C. Augustino, do you think Andy's going to address all the social media crap with

Rabha at the reunion? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think he has to. Yeah, unfortunately, it was a major storyline. Yeah, it took, like, the headlines. season almost like all the shit they were doing on the side i guess it depends on to what extent like obviously the bots i don't know how that lines up with the timeline i think they came out right before they did the reunion so he'll probably talk about that and the unfollowing yeah i hope he

just touches on and i really don't feel like reliving that yeah i don't either but yeah he i would imagine he has to ooh i like this one from i don't think it's that hard Mick Lindberg It's got to be it Mick Lindberg Don't laugh I'm trying my fucking artist From Mick I'm going with it

From Mick Lindberg Do you think Kyle would be more likable If she was closer to Garcel and Sutton Yes I agree But that's only because the storylines Are so negative towards Garcel and Sutton

So I think that she'd do a good job Defending them Because we've seen her defend Erica So yeah I think so I do too I think that that would actually be A very interesting show to watch and I wish

God I wish that could happen but it will not so don't get your hopes up and the last one from Kayla Paris 85 or Kayla Paris 85 statement not a question but it will lead to a good discussion Kyle loves private discussions when it involves her but loves

to publicly shade Sutton that's a very good point it's a very good point the fact that she will go out of her way to have a conversation with Erica after her all of that shit, but when it comes to her and Sutton having issues, she puts her on blast in front of everybody. Yep.

Great fucking point. And she claims that she's close to Sutton. She claims they're good friends. She stayed, let's not forget, Sutton stayed at Kyle's house for like six months because her house was being redone. Yeah. I mean, she also decided, I mean, I guess that was kind of emotional, but she decided to just talk to Dorit at her house and not bring it up later.

not talk about how Durit kind of abandoned her and betrayed her. Why not? Very good point. Very good point. Kayla, Parry, 85. Now, if you speak any French, please let us know. Yeah, let us know if Emily's French is any good, or if it's just the captions helping her out. It's got to be the captions. I think it's the captions. If she's claiming that she's not good at speaking it, she sounds fluent to me, but what the hell do we know? We can't even say our hon'est mall. Yeah, I mean, us and our craft singles. Yeah, craft singles and a good cheddar baby. That's what we're all about here.

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