Bros & Shows - The Beautiful Continent of Mexico & Back on Track? (The Valley Full Recap)
Episode Date: May 1, 2026What's up bros?? Things look to be getting on the right path with our crew out in the valley and we're hoping to see more of the same. While we still hold our disdain for Janet as a person, alienating... and excluding her from the reality TV show has never made sense so we're hoping her return to the group signals a return to form. While Brittany contemplates what a continent is, Luke is still coming to grips with what it means to be a dad...not a fisherman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Better episode this week, and I can point to one very obvious reason as to why.
It's a person, and her name rhymes with Fanet.
Now, before we get into that, I mean, are you saying that you like Janet?
Let me just get this right.
Not even one iota.
I think she's miserable, but I just think, oh, well, we're just, we're just, we're just, we're
just jumping at it.
Yeah, I mean, I just think there's going to be a lot of confusion.
A lot of fans are going to be like, hey, guys, do you like Janet?
No, no.
We don't.
Let's do this.
Yeah, you're right.
Let's just get it out of the way in the intro.
Yeah.
Regardless of what you think as we talk about this throughout this episode,
I hate Janet, okay?
Like visceral reaction to her and her shenanigans.
But we'll get into the other part in a second.
But is that clear?
Do you think we laid it out enough?
Yeah, I think so.
I hope so anyway.
As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellano.
Oh man, it's 8 o'clock.
And so that'll make it a...
I don't need the spotlight.
I shine just fine.
Hi, I'm Karma.
And yes, I am a bitch.
Brov Bros.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros.
Your favorite podcast from the Bros.
For everybody, for whoever wants to listen,
I am your co-host, Steele Russell,
joined as always by known Hater of Janet.
Shooter McGuder.
What's up, dude?
Dude, it's just...
It's getting very complicated.
There was points in this episode where the whole situation,
I felt like I was on Janet's team because I want her to be on the show so much
versus a lot of other people that it actually made me want to cheer for Janet.
I actually wanted her to get in there and have conversations with people as if I was
one of her fans.
It's a very confusing time.
And look, for all the haters out there that think that we enjoy hate watching things or
we just enjoy bragging on things, we don't.
We're just very realistic.
We're very honest.
We're very honest about what we do because we don't care if we piss off a network or a streaming device, whatever the hell it might be.
A device.
Yeah, yeah, you know, those streaming devices out there like Roku City.
We just piss off all of Roku City.
Yeah, Roku City hates us, dude.
Yeah, they think we're like war criminals against the Roku world.
Anyway, I don't like Janet.
I do not like her one bit, but I enjoy disliking her.
I enjoy watching all of the chaos that she brings.
And this is the way the show has been going this season.
We want it to be good.
And we know the way for it to be good is with Janet in the mix,
getting reactions from people,
forcing people to be around her that don't want to be around her.
It's good television.
I know it's not normal.
I know you live normal lives and you just want to cut out things.
But there's too many people on this goddamn cast that are quote unquote protecting their peace.
Get over it.
Go to a different show or just don't be on reality TV.
You cannot, for the love of God, you cannot protect your peace on reality TV.
That should be the whole headline.
Not if you want to be on a good show that people want to watch, you know, and that's the thing with Janet.
Like, I found myself having a similar reaction watching her scenes.
And that's where it gets, like, fun because she's like trying to weasel her way back into the group.
She's completely negating the fact that she said awful things last year.
She's acting like, I don't know what to do to get back in the good grace is like, what the hell happened?
which is funny to me that she's just not even acknowledging her part in it.
But the second that I'm like, oh, yeah, let her talk.
Then she says some shit.
I'm like, oh, no, wait, that's why you shouldn't talk.
That's fun.
That moves the show.
We were talking about it earlier.
Like, while I was watching it, I was texting shooter.
That's what I usually do.
I just like probably said like six texts in a row and then he finally responds to like one of them.
But I was watching it.
And I said to you like, okay, like this is going in the.
right direction because we have a focal point. We have a center of this show. We were talking last
week. We talked with Roxanne and Chantel about it. We talked a week prior about it. The biggest issue
with this show is this identity crisis that it's currently having. And yeah, Spotify, for whatever
reason, the comments, people are like, this show is great. Shut up. The YouTube people get it.
They agreed with us. When you have Janet in the mix, it gives you a center point for everything to
kind of circle around. Now we have common ground throughout the
factions in this group. You go to one scene, there's continuity into the next scene because we have
something that is going the distance on this show. We know what we're talking about. We know what
people are getting into. That's an important part of reality TV. A lot of times you don't notice
because all of the storylines surround something, but it's not so blatantly obvious because
you're just kind of going along with storylines. When you don't have that, it becomes obvious.
And that's what happened to the valley. Janet comes back. Boom. We have direction again.
We have direction from everybody.
And sometimes that direction is not good.
Sometimes we're still going to nitpick.
We're still going to look at things and be like,
all right,
don't do that.
Like Danny and Nia,
we've talked about this.
And it's now changed like my reasoning for it.
But we've talked about it since season one.
Like you guys are too normal.
You just want to protect your peace.
Get off the show.
Like go away and just go live your normal lives.
And the beginning of the seasons,
we were talking about it.
Like, you guys are too good for this.
Please go away.
Before somebody ruins your marriage.
Somebody tried to ruin your marriage.
And Danny's involved in that.
But your marriage almost got ruined in the midst of all of that.
You could have just stayed off of this show.
And now season four, I'm like, you guys are boring.
I'm sorry, but you're fucking boring.
And it's, I get it.
And Danny, you're kind of a creep.
And Dana's a creep, but like, I don't know.
Without Janet in the middle, without people discussing their issues with somebody on the show that are actual real issues, we have nothing.
We truly have nothing to latch on to it.
It's like we said in the first couple episodes where we're just kind of just kicking it in different directions.
Like, maybe this will work.
maybe this will work. Nothing's really working.
Janet comes back for one episode.
She's in most of the episode.
We have a lot of talks about her.
It gets something out of everybody.
We're now Brittany's talking about it in a very funny way that we can absolutely ridicule it for.
And we've got,
yeah,
like,
but like we've got Brandon fucking talking about her.
We've got like,
Dodie and Luke are talking about her.
Like now all of a sudden it's like,
whoa,
yes,
maybe common enemy.
That's okay.
But common enemies can turn into maybe she turns a few people slightly in her way.
Maybe she can do that because there is history there.
And I'm tired of hearing like, you know, we just threw out that friendship and I'm
done with her.
It's like, yeah, that's a great comment first off.
But you guys are going to San Diego and you have to be around each other, force them to be
around each other.
And if somebody looks and says, I'm not going to do that because she's there, then you're
off the show.
I'm sorry.
But participation is a huge part of this.
Yeah.
And I think the big takeaway at that pool party at the end, it was fine.
Janet was there.
It was awkward at times.
But it was fine.
People were able to move forward.
Doty smokes a bowl with her.
Like, it's not that deep.
It's not that serious.
Not how cool is that?
That was great.
Yeah, I love that.
Seeing a bowl packed with weed on a TV show, never seen it before.
Never seen it before.
Fantastic.
Yep, I love that.
Love that.
But let's jump into this episode because we actually do have a lot to talk about, finally.
And we start out with Michelle and Nia and they're at tumbling or gymnastics,
whatever you want to call it.
And Michelle, who knew?
she's a gymnast she's doing roundoffs and backflips and and flipper flappers and and who's he what's it so was impressive
doesn't your daughter do gymnastics shouldn't you know what these things are she has tumbling she is
i don't know what the difference i think tumbling's the like the floor routine but she also does the balance
beam so i think tumbling is just another word for gymnastics i'm probably going to get eviscerated for saying
that yeah i am probably too because my niece also does gymnastics and i know my brother's going to text me
after this episode, but my take on it.
Yeah.
Ridge round off.
Round off.
Yep.
Like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I took it as tumbling is for toddlers and gymnastics is for older kids.
I don't know.
You might get fucked for that one too.
I can get fucked for that.
I mean,
you for that one.
Yeah.
As soon as it came out,
I was like,
that's a weird way to say that.
I work at J.P. Morgan?
Come on.
Hey, yo.
Anyway, uh,
It turns out she stopped.
This is actually really fucking sad.
And only Michelle can deliver a sentence like this, like so middle of the road.
Like I know that was her showing emotion, but when she shows emotion, it doesn't really come across his emotion.
She's like, yeah, I stopped the 15 because my dad of mental health issues.
They just left because he was trying to protect us.
I was like, okay, what?
I guess he had some kind of mental episode and he thought that people were following him.
it was clearly had gone on for long enough that both mom and Michelle when he asked,
hey, can I leave?
They're like, yeah, it's fine.
Go do your thing.
And he kind of disappeared off the face of the earth for a while.
Yeah.
I mean, just a pretty crazy sentence to get from Michelle who's been on this show since the
inception.
And this is the first time we're talking about this.
That's anytime that that happens, I'm like, we've known you for a few years now.
I think she's alluded to her dad having like having left in the past.
Yeah.
But not to this extent.
And also, I guess, you know, maybe she hasn't had the, uh, the opportunity to show us her
gymnastics skills.
So I guess I can't really hound her for that one.
But again, I think this is, this is fine.
I mean, this is the most likable.
I think Michelle has been like this season.
I feel like she's been incredibly likable.
She's been very consistent.
She's staying out of people's business.
I understand her reservations of being around Jesse and how she says, like, if we
weren't filming this show, I wouldn't be around him nearly as much.
It wouldn't be as awkward.
Like, who knows what kind of co-parenting relationship we would have.
and lo and behold, she's dating Dr. Dre,
who Steele still doesn't believe is actually dating.
I want it to be real.
Like,
I'm not rooting against it.
I just need to see like,
confirm,
I guess we're talking about Dr.
fucking,
what kind of confirmation?
What kind of confirmation do you want?
Just them on a date.
If you give me a picture of them,
they went on a date.
They were going to no deal.
She'll be pictures of them holding hands walking.
I,
give me them at the table.
I'm rooting for this.
I want this to be a thing.
I'm not,
I'm not against it.
It's Dr.
Dre,
dude.
he is one of the biggest names in all of music in the history of music.
Like, it's a little astounding.
Jesse sort of confirmed it because two T's Teddy called or texted Jesse as soon as she saw the news.
And Jesse said, I was wondering why Isabella has a new pair of beats.
But you get into a dicey situation when you want confirmation that someone's dating because that could be taken in a lot of different ways.
Like you want pictures.
I don't want people take pictures in, you know, doing the West Amanda thing where it's like through the window.
All I'm saying is like at no.
Give me a picture of them at the table.
That's all.
Hold on.
I want to confirm it.
I want to confirm it.
I'm just skeptical because it's like again.
You don't you don't think Bruce D.
And Mike Brayble had sex either.
They were old names.
They had sex.
That's a whole different story.
But I don't know.
Like you understand where I'm coming from.
Like we're talking about it's not like she stumbled.
Quentin Tarantino is more believable than Dr.
Dr. Dre.
It's Dr.
Yeah.
He's on the Mount Rushmore.
of entertainment.
Yeah, he kind of strikes me as like an NDA guy,
so maybe we just don't know about that.
Whereas Tarantino's like, I won everybody.
Yeah, I want to tell everyone.
Yeah, that's why everyone knows I love feet.
Yeah, he definitely wants everybody to know that.
Yeah, that just takes me back to Dust Till Dawn,
where you know that he wrote that in the script
where he gets to lick Selma's foot.
Oh, yeah.
He wrote the part for himself so that I know.
You did that and then he died.
That's how quick it was.
I'm just going to lick your foot real quick and then, uh, dead.
Okay, cool.
Spoiler warning.
Yeah, that's gross.
Anyway, Brittany, Doty and Zach are getting spray tans and bikini waxes and whatever.
Don't worry about it.
But there's an upcoming pool party.
And obviously given the drama of the previous pool party, Britney's a little on edge.
Oh, my gall.
I freaks me out.
This group freaks me out.
Oh, the bikini wax for, oh, my gall.
Keenie what, I'm not going to do a bunch of impressions.
Don't worry.
It's just she aggravates the-
I can't stand her.
I honestly,
anytime that she pops up on screen,
I'm like, ugh, God,
don't start talking because her voice,
her voice just like,
it strikes me in the worst way possible every time.
And like,
she's just not a good person.
And the only real benefit to having her on this show is when she does
something or says something very stupid,
we get to comment on it,
Nick Fovner.
Yeah.
And like the conversation later of her,
how she views the situation is just so a glimpse into her psyche that you're like,
wow, that's why you're such a bad friend.
Like you don't even read the situation correctly,
but whatever.
We're talking about date night between Doty and Luke.
And Zach is trying his absolute damnedest to be just positive through this whole thing
and be the soundboard for both of them.
He's coming at it like,
you guys are just missing each other.
You misunderstand each other,
which to a certain extent he's right.
I'll give him that.
But as Doty's talking about the whole thing, he's like, you know, he's not listening.
He's not respecting what I want.
He wants to have sex and our relationship to feel normal.
But I don't feel close to you when you're sleeping on the couch when I tell you not to.
It's 4 a.m.
and the baby is awake.
And I know what she's talking about.
He's doing this half ass like, well, do you do you want me to take her?
Just take her, dude.
Take the baby.
Don't ask.
That's the whole thing.
Like there's, there's plenty of times that you just need to stay.
step up, scoop the baby up and say, stay in bed, I got it.
I got this one, all right?
Just because I'm hung over or still drunk because I went out and did what you told me not to.
Like, I got the baby.
That would go so far.
But he wants, he wants to be reciprocated with sex when he's not showing up to do the stuff
that Doty needs.
Like, it's not, it's not rocket science why you're not getting elayed, Luke.
Like, it's pretty fucking obvious.
Yeah, it's pretty fucking obvious.
but also he goes and talks a little bit more about how he feels.
And it's more like he wants fucking everything, man.
I know.
He really wants her.
He wants this woman that just gave birth to treat him like her first board.
Like, hey, you know, I didn't forget about you.
You can go fishing.
I'll take care of the baby.
You can go.
Like the vibe that I get is he'll go fishing, but he's just staring at his phone the whole time.
And if Kristen texts him and says, hey, what like, what time do you think you're going to come home?
Because I've got this and this like a little bit later.
but I want to plan and she can do it as nicely as possible,
which is very funny to always the fact that now we're talking about Kristen Doty
in like a very nice scope.
I know.
Yeah, no, she's being very supportive.
She's letting him go fishing and taking the brunt of the baby duties so that he can feel
a little bit like himself.
But he's staring at his phone and he gets that text message,
which was probably crafted very nicely, trying not to upset him at all.
And he's still like, oh, God, like I can't even get a moment of peace.
She's hounding me.
Like, I don't even know why I went fishing.
I knew that she didn't want me to go.
It's like, dude, she just said, what time are you coming home so that I can plan the rest of the night?
Because you have a baby, you idiot.
And when he starts talking about like, and I know Kristen talks about it and this like,
she gets aggravated and says like, well, then just fucking leave.
Like if you're going to do that, she doesn't mean it.
It's just, she's being honest.
She's just fed up with his fucking attitude.
And like, I know where he's coming from.
I understand what he's saying.
And obviously we're firmly on team Doty for all of this because when we're like, we're dudes,
when we see guys act like this after having a baby, we're like, what are you doing?
It doesn't make any sense.
It does.
Yeah, and it's frustrating to watch.
And it's like the LA thing, for example, it's such a good point because Doty's like, we had the conversation.
So you're weaponizing it now.
If you're going to keep going back every time to like, I don't even want to be in L.A.
It's like if you came to this agreement and you agreed to it as an adult, as a grown up man, and you said, okay, once you start school, we're going to look closer to my family.
It will be somewhere in the middle.
Maybe they go all the way back.
I don't really know.
But that is the end of the conversation.
You can't then use it to your advantage when you're in a tough spot with her.
Be like, well, I don't want to be here.
It's like, yeah, no shit, dude.
It's kind of obvious.
But that's like the last thing that a new mom needs to be worried about is that you're not happy with where you live.
Because she's already questioning if you want to stick around.
Now you're going to add like, I don't even want to be here.
It's like, well, that's loaded potentially.
Like, just settle down.
Meet her where she's at.
When we talk about it later, I have a lot more to say.
Yeah.
He goes, fuck, man.
I texted you.
I was like, I thought he couldn't dig the whole deeper.
And every, every, he grabs his shovel and digs a little deeper.
He absolutely does.
Now, the thing about Zach, my guy's got to have some sort of sponsorship with like a couple's therapist, right?
He is pushing couples therapy.
Or he just has such a great experience with a couple's therapy that he doesn't realize that people could have a bad experience with a couple's therapy.
He's like, hey, go.
probably I'm sure that I think he actually did and I don't want to put words in his mouth but I do vaguely remember him saying something about that like in the off season at some point they had sat down with somebody to try to figure things out which it does seem like him and Benji had a lot of things to figure out not necessarily you know their rapport or anything but like logistically.
Yeah, logistically. And I'm sure that probably rubbed a couple people the wrong way in that relationship. But he just keeps bringing up couples therapy. And I'm like, all right. Yeah, I guess you know that makes sense. But I mean,
These two haven't been together super long.
They just had a baby, like maybe just kind of waited.
I'm not going to tell anybody what to do, but going to a couple's therapist this early
on seems not like a great sign to me.
There's a middle ground.
I guess because of babies involved.
Maybe, yeah, it's different.
You know, different strokes for different folks.
I think I don't, I think it's easy to look at like couples therapy and be like, oh,
break glass in case of emergency situation.
I don't think it always necessarily has to be that.
Like maybe if.
It's just like you guys continue to butt heads.
Let's just get a third party in here.
You guys aren't communicating well.
Like maybe it stops or turns into a bigger problem.
So I don't,
I don't know.
I don't really.
What if Brandon and Brittany said they were going to a couple third?
That's too soon.
Like there needs to be like levels to it.
Like Dodey and Luke have a baby together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Intentious living situation.
Like Brittany needs to go to therapy.
Solo,
which maybe she is.
I don't know.
But like,
probably.
That's a different.
Janet's in therapy, though.
I know.
She keeps telling me.
Anyway,
let's get to Lala, Michelle, and Janet,
and we're back at Drenched, dude.
I know.
I know.
I noticed that.
My ears perk up.
Yeah.
This drenched looked a lot different.
This is Pilates.
Yeah, so it's Pilates.
So this is a multifaceted organization.
There was no hot gym teacher,
which, you know,
I was a little upset about.
One of the little eye candy to look at,
but, you know,
can't always get lucky.
now he's over in Atlanta so maybe he'll make the trip out to LA at some point but didn't need
the yummiest part of class don't eat that this is the yummiest part of class I didn't care for that
but anyway we start it makes me understand like why people like la talk the way they do and it's
probably from classes like that that's how they talk yeah perhaps yeah she does a little bit later
she absolutely goes and like does that for a dude she's like this is the yumiest move I'm like yeah no
Oh, no, honey?
You want to talk about honey again?
Yeah.
Sticky.
Oh, God.
Anyway, they asked Janet, like, how do you feel when you see pictures of us out and this and that?
She's like, you know, it's not great.
I get bummed for a sec.
But at the same time, I don't really want to be invited for something with Daddy and Neer because things aren't so good right now.
And they're talking about the best way to move forward with the group.
Now, I do agree that Zach is probably the first dominant.
I know that needs to fall if you're going to ingratiate yourself back in any way,
shape, or form.
But the funny takeaway for me in this scene is, again, the way that she talks, her tone,
her demeanor, the context of what she's saying is as though, like, yeah, you know,
they just, they're just really overreacting.
And they, they just, I'm trying to talk to everybody.
I'm trying to get back to an even playing field here and be neutral.
But like, they just, they won't budge because they're, they're doing too much.
And I, what am I supposed to do?
I'm Janet.
I'm Janet.
Yeah.
She has a small leg to stand on because she did at least try.
Like the Jasmine conversation was very one-sided.
I mean, it was very much.
Janet came to her hoping that there was some sort of resolution.
Jasmine didn't seem like she wanted to budge.
Obviously, Nia didn't say a fucking word.
But Janet did go and try to have conversations with them.
And again, I don't give a fucking.
I don't even think that's trying.
But like, it's TV trying, which is about as good as you're going to get from somebody
like Janet.
Like, no, I don't think, like, if we got news that in the off season, Janet went over to try to talk to them and try to squash some things, we'd be like, okay, that's kind of interesting.
We'd like to see it on TV, but at least she's doing it organically in a non-TV setting.
But if she's on TV and she goes and does that, like at least she's showing the audience, like us, the people who were like, hey, we need Janet in the show because otherwise you really don't have much.
She's going and trying.
So you would think the way reality TV works, you have that first step and then there has to be a second step.
Maybe the second step's coming soon.
It's not happening quickly enough for me, but maybe the second step is happening soon.
And now this is sort of that intermediate step where she's talking to everybody else.
Like, hey, I'm trying.
And you can get somebody like Brittany.
You can get somebody like if Zach kind of turns a little bit, you can get somebody to go and talk to other people like, hey, for the sake of the group, for the sake of the show, can you please just have a conversation with her?
Or at least just be copacetic.
Like we saw with Danny and Jason.
Like Danny's just like, I don't have any interest in being friends with you.
I don't even want to be around you.
It's you have to.
You guys signed a contract to be on the same damn show.
You have to be with each other.
So there is that that goes into all of this.
It's just, I don't know.
This is where I get conflicted because I'm like,
I'm not on Janet's team,
but I understand what she's saying.
Like she's for the show.
She's the only one who's even trying to have some sort of relationship.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
It's a show try.
But again,
like with the Jasmine situation,
Jasmine shut it down.
That's okay to a certain extent.
Like I think she left the door open enough that Janet can go try
another conversation maybe not i don't know but the the nia convo like that's where i'm like no that
doesn't count because you went up and you wanted her to start and apologize to you and you literally
said is there you told dote sorry you told who set the conversation dody no la la la la i'd be interested
in talking to nia all right you go to talk to nia but you're expecting nia to talk to nia but you're
expecting Nia to talk to you.
Oh, no.
No.
Well, Lala did say, Lala did say to Janet on her way over to the conversation, just hear
her out and let her just talk about things.
So Janet went over there and she's like, okay, I'll hear her out.
And then Nia didn't talk.
So that's what that's fault.
To a certain extent, fine.
Yeah, I mean, Janet doesn't start talking at that point.
Yeah, I think Janet needs to, she's going to have to swallow some pride here because
she still thinks that she's like not in the wrong in any way.
day before, like, you need to broach the topic.
Once it's broached, wherever it goes after that is anybody's guess.
And not, not Janet's job to control that narrative, but you do have to start the
convo.
Like I do think that is, is pivotal to be able to move forward, whether she moves forward
with everybody or not.
If you can't broach it, it's not going to happen.
And that's also a problem with the rest of the cast.
Like they need to get over it and fucking talk about it, even if you're going to yell at her,
but at least like go back to it so we can move on from.
comment in any any regard.
That's something in my eye.
It's pissing me off.
The other part of that is that because of what,
were you just trying to wipe something out of my eye from?
That's so nice of you.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
But yeah, the other part of that is what Janet did last year
is something that we always talk about in the normal world.
It's irreparable damage.
Like there's no way that you come back from using that sort of word,
using that lingo,
regardless of how we feel about Danny.
and he is a creep, but you just can't say that on national TV.
Unless you have tangible evidence.
Even if you do, get the authorities involved.
Don't get the Bravo sphere involved.
But because of what she did, because before that,
we actually kind of enjoyed the delusion of Janet,
where it was little petty problems,
and then she would just fail to ever take responsibility,
and it would drive everybody nuts.
But they weren't mad enough at her where they're like,
I don't want her even remotely close to me.
Then she does that, and now that's where they are.
So she does have to, the onus is on her to at least get back to where she was in season one,
towards the end of season one, where yes, all right, I've made amends to everybody involved.
I'm now back to some sort of level footing.
And now I can go back to being delusional because right now when she's doing that and she's doing the same thing that she's always done,
her apologies are just fucking not even half-ass.
They're like quarter-assed.
They make no sense.
She's not taking any responsibility.
And this is where we are.
And it's like, no, no, no, you have to actually apologize for that.
and then you can move on to being delusional.
Like this isn't enjoyable delusional, Janet.
This is like, all right, you have to fucking get something here.
Yeah, because her playing, though, like, oh, I don't know.
Like, I just don't understand.
That's going to get annoying in a hurry.
But like I said, like I will say that there is some emphasis to be placed on the rest of the cast
because you have to be open to the conversation.
Like I said, you can yell.
You can go into it with nothing but bad intentions.
but you still have to go do it.
You know, like this whole thing of like,
yeah, I don't want to.
Stop.
Like, you're on a show.
We need you to.
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podcasts. Right back to the rest of the action in the valley. Now, Lacey and Jesse, this is just a
quick one-off. I think we're just trying to build like the rapport between these two. I don't really
know. Like, they're the most enjoyable people on the show for me. Yeah, I don't mind this scene.
It's just like she is very interesting. She's very, yeah, she's just, she's strange. We're talking about,
I don't appreciate that we're talking divorce in front of the daughter. I think we can wait to
have that conversation until she's not at the table, but everyone, parents.
in their own way.
But we just talk about a doomsday bunker and hoarding, which, look, I'm all for,
be prepared all that.
She was a doomsday bunker light or something?
Doomsday light.
Yeah.
It was doomsday light.
But she's very interesting.
I mean, I actually kind of agreed.
She said a couple of things.
And I'm like, that actually makes a ton of sense where Jesse was trying to get Isabella to
do a trick for her.
And she's like, all right, you don't have to get your daughter to do a trick.
Like, she's not a show pony.
I'm like, oh, it actually kind of makes a lot of sense to tell Jesse that right away.
And then later, he was doing something with Isabella or they must have done something earlier.
And she's like, I don't like that you teach your kid's secrets.
Like Isabella's only four years old.
You shouldn't tell her what a secret is.
She should just be open and honest.
I'm like, actually makes a lot of sense, Lacey.
You're making way too much sense right now.
I also say like you're settled out.
It's not that deep.
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, you're making a lot of fucking sense right now, Lacey and Jesse seems to be responding very well.
And then she goes into a doomsday bunker.
And she's like, I don't want to talk about that.
It's something I want to put out there.
It's off grid.
It's not at my compound.
You'll never find it.
That's fucking very Dwight Shrewt.
I really enjoyed that.
Yeah.
No, I mean, it's, look, she's quirky.
And they seem to have a good relationship, whatever it is.
It's a very interesting dynamic.
I can't put my finger on it.
I need her with the rest of the group, though.
I hope she's going to San Diego.
We didn't really hear if she was going or not.
But I hope she's going because I need to see conversation.
Like a conversation between Lacey and Schwartz.
holy shit.
I don't even know if I'll be able to recover from that one.
But I need her with like some normal people just to see how that goes.
I think it's going to be weird.
I think her and Schwartz are on the same wavelength.
They probably get along really well.
But I think it'd be weird.
But anyway, Janet has an idea to invite everyone to game night.
They talked about this with her,
Brittany and Lala earlier.
And she extended the invite to Danny and Nia and Kristen and Luke.
great great like that little shit goes a long way because now like it's all about leverage right
in this situation you have the leverage now you tried they said they didn't show up they didn't
respond boom falls in your court now that's great it's good news so we need little moves like that
even if you're doing it on the shell's call too because Michelle while they were at your end
said like hey this might sound crazy but at least float them an invite and then they have to say no
like make them say no so at least then they know that they're included and you're not just moving on
with your life. Again, everything is
incredibly show-coded and I'm okay
with it, but they're all talking about the same thing.
They're all saying like, the people who have
some sense of what's going on around them
are all saying the same thing like, hey,
this can't continue. This is
really bad entertainment. We can't just continue
to move forward while leaving one couple out or two couples
out or if you want to host an event, only a few
of us can come. I agree. I don't
want Janet to host an event. We're only
Schwartz, Lala, Brittany
and fucking Michelle can
go. I don't even see the Vanderpump
rejects go hang out.
No, it just doesn't work. And then
vice versa, like an entire cast
event, which we've had now three straight
times before today's episode,
three straight times with no Janet, no Jason,
like enough. Why are they on the show?
You should have just moved forward without them on the show.
If this is going to be the dynamic,
but by doing that invite,
now they're going to be forced to invite you to
stuff because they don't want to look bad. So boom,
we got movement. Finally, we
finally have some kind of movement. Thank God.
But we're at game night.
And I love that we get the montage of the people that said,
no, they were busy.
And everybody's at home doing absolutely nothing,
which was very funny.
I do wish they went.
But we're making progress.
So I'm not that upset.
Like it was an invite extended that's good enough for me for now.
But we're doing a little game night question night.
This looks like fun, actually.
They even have like somebody that reads you the questions and then go back and forth.
It was Jared.
But yeah.
Oh, it was?
I was writing.
I didn't see.
Never mind.
I hate it now.
I hate him fucking Jared and pink boots.
Those douchebags.
But continent and a country.
What is it?
Where is it?
Mexico.
What are the easiest fucking questions I've ever seen?
Like, they flash that math problem in like 0.5 seconds.
I'm like, uh, yeah, 16.
The fact that they, I didn't see one, well, I guess Schwartz got the math question.
Correct.
They just showed us all the wrong answers.
Well, I was close, I guess, with the moon one, but it doesn't work.
That's not going to play.
July 20th, 1969, I believe, by the way, is the official moon landing.
But hold on.
Mexico, come on.
Like, what?
We have to, that's not, that's inexcusable.
And that's, that's what people around the world think that Americans are stupid because of
shit like that.
It's Mexico.
Not wrong, though.
That is the majority of Americans.
I would argue the majority of Americans would probably say Mexico.
I agree. That's really fucking embarrassing, dude. That sucks. That sucks. Everybody. We have to be self-aware. It has to be self-aware. America's stupid. We are very stupid people. Oh, I didn't hear you.
Everybody knows the answer is Canada. Actually, it's Australia. I've ever told you about the time I played baseball down there. Perth.
Yeah, you want to tell it? Quakas.
Wow, yep.
You've probably heard it 200 times.
I can probably do it verbatim.
I love, we should try it one time, actually.
But we're planning San Diego.
As we know, we're doing a cast trip to San Diego.
As of right now, given the vibes and the way that this episode went,
I do believe that everybody's going to go.
I think they're all going to be forced into a house.
We might have a situation where we have an auxiliary house
or a midnight departure to a hotel.
I'm cool with that.
As long as we get everyone in this house in San Diego,
that's a big win and we're taking steps in the right direction.
But again, we're talking to Janet.
And just the way that she frames things,
this is where the delusion comes in.
She's like, you know, a lot of people,
I try talking to a lot of people having conversations,
they just haven't gone well.
I'm like, yeah, well,
because you're trying to hold them accountable,
one, and two,
You're not saying anything.
Literally with Nia, does anything want to get up for chest?
No?
Well, have a nice party.
And you walk away.
So the way that you're telling other people, things are going.
Right.
And like for you to say, if you can't tell me specifically what I've done wrong,
how am I going to apologize?
It's 10 against one.
Yes.
Why?
Yeah.
Janet, why is it 10 against one?
I'd love you.
Like, how far her delusion goes to.
and like it extends to Zach,
where she's like,
I don't even know why Zach's mad at me.
He's probably just mad at me
because of what I said about Danny.
It's like,
maybe,
I don't know.
I mean,
you guys already had your issues
with the whole baby moon thing
in the first season.
Now you've got this going on.
Maybe he's just seeing you for who you are.
But even going back to like,
and I do think like you said,
the door's open with somebody like Jasmine.
Because Jasmine,
the conversation was like,
yeah,
I had a funeral for our friendship.
But in that conversation,
Janet was like,
well,
you know,
I would really like to become friends again.
Okay.
Would you like to apologize?
Are you going to apologize for calling me a Karen?
Right.
No.
Like no, then no, I'm not going to apologize to you.
Like she wants everything to be mutual.
So somebody's going to have to force her to be like, hey, no, but at the end of
you're sorry.
Just say sorry and then hope that they can move on.
And that's what we've, that's what we've said pretty much the whole time.
That's what we say pretty much for any of these situations.
You have to actually apologize.
They don't have to accept your apology.
But now we, the viewer, get to see you actually apologize.
And we could say, hey, she tried.
that seems like a heartfelt apology.
They didn't accept it.
That's on them now.
If they continue to not film with that person, why are they still in the show?
Like, we'll start to, we'll start to swap like back and forth no matter what.
So that's all she has to do and she just can't do it.
And it's kind of funny.
But maybe she'll do it in San Diego, especially after this fucking performance by Brittany.
I mean, you would hope.
But like, as they're talking, again, she starts to get animated.
Now she's getting pissed off again.
And like, this is, this is everything in this one.
scene because, you know, now she starts saying like, you know,
Danny liked to post about Jason likes to watch me have sex with her people.
I was like, Danny liked a cuck chair post or something probably.
And you're making it sound a lot dirtier than,
than that because Jason probably does do that,
allegedly.
So that's not surprising.
He probably takes his wedding ring off and pulls a tiger woods and sits in the corner
while,
well,
things are happening.
I don't know.
That's,
that's probably what the post said.
I'm not saying it.
The post probably said that.
And Danny liked it.
Whatever.
her, the point is as she starts to get like escalated a little bit, she's like, oh, that's okay.
Danny can like that post, but I'm not allowed to talk about what he's done and starts clapping.
I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, real it in.
Yeah.
You're not rehashing.
There's some very unresolved feelings about this whole thing.
And look, we've said it before.
The way she went about it was incredibly wrong.
However, there was some weird evidence going on with Danny.
So like she might not actually be wrong.
But bring the evidence.
You have to bring the evidence.
And then tear them the fuck down.
Yeah, you can't just talk about hearsay.
You can't just talk about whatever.
It has to actually be substantial evidence.
And look, that's Danny's prerogative.
If Danny and Nea want to continue to be on the show,
if for whatever reason Janet's able to figure something out and bring it to everybody's
attention and it's hard hitting evidence, you're fucked.
Like, you should leave the show.
That's, I like, I truly believe that Danny and I just don't belong on this show anymore.
I mean, they moved out of the valley.
You know, that's their decision.
They're gone.
They're not even in the valley anymore.
But yeah, Janet, just this is who she is.
And I love when she gives you a glimpse.
Like, she's trying and she was coached.
And I also love in the beginning of the episode when she's like, I got to talk to Jason to
figure this whole thing out.
It's like you're not talking to Jason.
You're not getting his input.
You're doing this for whatever you want to say.
Come on now.
But I love when she does this because you actually get to see who she is.
Like she does purely believe what she said about Danny.
And again, she must.
might not be fully wrong, but the way she went about it was very wrong.
And she burnt a lot of bridges by going down that path and being who she is.
She still wants to do that.
But she realizes she has to swallow her pride.
She can't quite swallow that pride.
So it's still coming up in like, in little bursts whenever somebody says something that triggers it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And just to reiterate, like if there is substantial evidence that Danny's a fucking creep, by all means expose them.
Please.
Like, we don't even like the guy anyway.
And I can see him being creepy.
So if you have it, the problem is you didn't come with the evidence and he called him a predator.
Like that's that damning without evidence.
That's all.
But Brittany's sitting there going, you know, everyone puts me in the middle of things and, you know,
they want me to make everything right.
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You put yourself in the middle and you're too much of a coward to take a stance and you make
things incredibly worse.
And people don't come to you for advice.
They vent.
You take what they said and you take it to the other person and fuck the situation up more.
you are not good at this and you shouldn't do this and they're not asking you to you you do it on
your own volition and then you make everything much much worse yeah and when push comes to shove
you dismiss yourself from everything you don't want to deal with it and you don't understand why
people are mad like ah just we'll just invite them over everything's going to be fine christian janet
where they're in i'm not going to step in until i'm not going to tell them i'm not going to tell them
you shouldn't go after janet in my house like just separate and be okay about her being here
and if you want to leave because you're uncomfortable, you should leave.
Like, why would I do that?
I'm just the host.
Like, that's what Britney does.
But her coming out and being like, I don't understand why everybody wants me to be in the
middle of all this.
Every time that we get together, everybody's just always talking about Janet and everyone's
talking about Danny and Nea with Janet.
Can everybody just understand that I just want to enjoy my life?
I just want to have fun.
Am I allowed to have fun?
Jesus Christ, Brittany, for the love of God, you have been doing whatever the hell you've
wanted forever.
We've been talking.
All we've been talking is what you've been doing.
It's incredible to me.
Like everybody, we've gotten to the point and I'm pretty sure your friends have gotten to the point where they try to not even involve you anymore if you're not involved.
Zach went to you to talk about Brandon.
Aside from that, I actually haven't seen anybody really talk to Brittany specifically about inviting Janet to things.
They're just talking in a group.
And Britney's like, oh, can you guys stop bringing this to me?
I'm talking to six other people, Brit.
No, no, no, you're talking to me.
I have nothing to do with this.
Like, no, no, no, you don't get away with this now.
And she's just such a bad friend.
So that's why it's so funny when she does this.
I know.
Yeah.
Trust me.
People don't want you in the middle at all.
But there you are.
There you are with all the wrong answers.
Let's get to the party.
Luke,
take the fucking socks off.
I don't know what the hell those are.
If they're,
hopefully they're medical,
then that would make sense.
But like,
you shouldn't be wearing those.
They're ridiculous.
Thank you,
Zach,
for calling that out.
You got like Zarco's veins from standing up
and fishing so much.
Yeah,
probably from too much.
much fishing.
But, you know, beer pong in your 40s.
She is.
In that regard.
Like, hey, you can't fish anymore.
Look at the socks you have to wear.
But I will say that Zach is trying.
And I appreciate that.
He's trying to mend this, this damage between Doty and Luke.
And he's playing pretty neutral.
And he could easily lean heavy Doty and just kind of tear Luke down.
We are leaning heavy Doty and trying to tear Luke down.
Zach's not.
He's trying to stay neutral.
and he's like, look, I got some text this morning.
I want to check it on you.
Make sure everything's okay.
And he's like, you know, I'm still neutral, which means don't he thinks I'm miserable.
I'm like, okay, see, that's stuff.
That's the stuff.
That makes it worse.
The only thing can make it a lot worse is if somebody that doesn't know anybody here just decides
that he's going to chime in that like he's been around for the entire season for the entire tenure of this show.
Fucking Brandon, just let her be, dude.
She's going through these emotions.
She just had a baby.
This fucking, this got me, dude.
This really got me.
because here's the thing.
We can acknowledge that women postpartum, their hormones are out of whack, they're crazy,
they're elevated, they're trying to get normalized again.
That's fine.
You cannot use the hormone thing or the emotions thing as a cop out to everything because
what you're doing is blanket statement, all of her reactions, all of her thoughts and feelings,
and you're saying they're all irrational because she just had a baby.
No, no.
She might have elevated feelings.
some things might be a lot of proportion,
but you don't get to minimize all of her feelings
because she just had a baby.
Luke is being a dickhead.
And you're sitting there going,
just keep doing what you're doing.
You don't know the situation.
You're using a blanket statement for all pregnant women,
all women that have had babies and saying,
yeah, their emotions are crazy.
They can't regulate them after babies.
They just blow everything out of proportion.
Absolutely not,
because now you're doing the bad stuff
that makes dudes look stupid and dumb and bad.
Shut the fuck up, Brandon.
No one invited you here anyway.
I don't know why you're on this.
show we don't want you here shut the fuck up you know why he's on the show brittney invited him but
yeah i mean he gets involved with doughty too talking about janet janet's coming over and like i agree
in the sense of like you don't want to repeat of what happened that whatever i imagine was cruz's birthday
i don't know we never really got confirmation on what that party was you don't want to repeat of that
once again britt this is your house you're having a pool party brittney just tell christin hey if you
have an issue with Janet. I invited her to come. She has to be around us. If you have an issue,
either talk to her directly because now you're on TV or just steer clear, but don't go up to
her and start ridiculing her or get in her face and make her want to leave again because she's going to.
And on the flip side of that, which Brittany is not mentioning because she probably doesn't realize,
that'll give Janet Ammo to do what she's done for the first two seasons, which is face that,
say everybody's being unfair, play victim and leave. And then hope that somebody calls. And if nobody
call she'll just call pink boots or Jared on the way home be like they're so mean to me I know so
much about them I can tear them down right now like she'll flip at a second she'll be like oh my god
I'm so sad I can't believe that they ridiculed me I will bury them I will absolutely ruin their
lives Jason's a lawyer he'll figure it out Jason's like fucking like tax lawyer but anyway I'll leave
all of that at the door but Brandon getting involved was very funny because it's like I
understand and then he goes into this whole fucking spiel like just be the fun loving christian
that we all love no who
are you man you just got here what do you know about dody like how many times have you met her and you're
just kind of call her fun loving person that we all love and we want to be around that you don't understand
the gravity of the situation she clearly hates janet you're not just fun loving and normal around
somebody that you hate you hate them if you say hey yeah you know just for like copesthetic reasons
just you know steer clear or whatever if you have or if you have the impulse to yell at janet
why don't you come over and yell at me like crack a joke like do something like that or stay the
out of it. Or stay the fuck out of it. Yeah, I know that he's not going to stay the fuck out of it.
So I'm looking for alternatives of what he could say. I'm trying to help Brandon. But at the
end of the day, like, it's not his business. Like, you should not be involved. And honestly, he's only getting
involved because Brittany's not getting involved. Brittany should be the one saying that to Doty.
If that's how you feel, then that's how Brandon's interpreting it and bringing it to Doty. So just
stay the fuck out of it. I don't, I just don't know where you want to go with this Brandon thing.
I have no idea what's going on with this guy. And I, I, I,
wish she would just shut up.
But it's ironic because the next discussion is Lala, who has also not been around,
who doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
She's like, it just seems like a hive mentality in the group in regards to Janet.
Everyone's got their individual issues with her.
And they all stem from different incidents, believe it or not.
Kind of impressive, honestly.
Like, it is.
It is.
The damage that she did last year was massive.
Everybody individually.
Yeah.
Yes.
So no, Lala, you don't get to sit there and go, maybe you guys should think for yourself.
Shut, shut up, Lauren from Utah.
You just got here.
Okay, you've been fine this season.
You're starting to show yourself a little bit more.
I saw it more of this episode, didn't love it.
I saw it in clips from next week.
It's going to get worse.
Lauren from Utah's making her return.
No, dude.
And like this, like, I'm the only one that doesn't have beef with Janet.
Why?
You weren't on the show last year.
That's why.
If I did, I wouldn't be passive aggressive.
I'd be aggressive.
Okay, Lauren, welcome back.
Tough guy.
Tough guys.
There you are.
There you are.
But Luke and Zach have a heart to heart.
And like I said, he grabbed this shovel and he thought he was just going to dig some more into this hole, I guess, because Zach starts it off.
I got that text from Kristen this morning.
And she said that you were in a bad mood and that you said you wanted to go fish.
And she was like, well, then go fishing.
And you're like, oh, it's too far.
And he's like, that's not what I said.
That's exactly what you fucking said.
That sounds like you to a tee from what we've seen.
But this is where Zach is trying to take the road of a look.
And I think there is some validity to this.
I do think they speak different languages when it comes to this stuff.
He's like, you guys are missing each other.
You're saying one thing.
She's saying another.
You're not understanding where each other's coming from.
I think somebody needs to be there.
I will do it.
But I think that's a bad idea.
I also think that's a bad idea.
But for us at home, that's a really good idea.
You should probably, Zach should mediate this whole thing for our entertainment.
In real life, yes, professional.
In this, we need you to do it, Zach, please.
I think Zach could do it.
I mean, the way that he lays out the plan, like, I'm going to, you're going to have a professional that's going to be able to talk to you how you understand and how Kristen understands.
Zach, it sounds like you're the person for that job, actually.
Why don't you just do it?
Come on.
What's there to like, and have the baby there.
Like, why not?
Yes.
Bring the baby into it.
Let her sit in on this one.
Maybe not.
No, I only say that because Kristen earlier in the, in the episode, it's like, yeah.
You know, when we have these types of discussions, we don't do it in front of the baby.
I know she's really young, but we don't do it.
Appreciate that, though.
Like, yeah, it's probably the right call.
Meanwhile, Jesse's over here talking about divorce and secrets with Isabella, but he still loves his fellow.
And I don't want to.
I was just a, that was just a joke, guys.
Come on.
But, yeah, I think that Zach should be theater.
I like that he's sitting there and he's trying, he's not showing any bias.
Even when Luke is showing his ass and just continuing, like, like you said, how could it get any worse?
And then he makes it worse.
Like, dude, this is not the time.
And your wife or your fiance just had a baby and you want to play the woes me thing because
you're homesick?
Yes.
For what, dude?
Like, I'm not judging people who live in that part of the country, but what are you homesick
for, a fucking cabin with no electricity?
Like, what are we doing here?
I don't know.
I don't go hiking, dude.
I don't fucking know.
But like, it's shit like this.
I've never had a kid or gone through birth or, you know, dealt with postpartum, period.
Just stop talking.
Don't say anything else after that sentence.
Yep. This version of Kristen, hopefully it won't last.
What do you, do you fucking think before you speak?
Like, what the fuck, dude? She's already going through it.
She already feels crazy because of all of her crazy emotions going on right now,
trying to regulate that and feel normal again.
She doesn't feel comfortable in her own skin.
And you're going to say, you're confirming all of her worst insecurities.
Oh, wow.
I am as shitty as I feel.
Thanks, hubs.
Appreciate it, dude.
Glad we have this kid together.
You just confirmed all of this shit she's dealing with has made her worse.
Instead of saying, this is a hard time.
But I love you.
We'll get through it.
Period.
What the fuck?
No one cares about your plight, Luke.
None of us are concerned about you not being able to fish.
We don't give two fucks about your family.
Your family, as you said last week, your family is right there.
It's Kristen and your baby.
So show up, shut up, and stop talking.
Yeah, I just, I think it's going to get worse.
I truly do.
There's a big bomb coming.
I think there's going to be a big bomb coming and it's going to be between the two of them.
Like so far, the worst, yeah, I mean, he did get a little weird last week,
but the worst situations, the worst things that Luke has said, it's been to other people,
it's been to Danny, it's been to now Zach.
He's going to say something along those lines, but worse to Chris,
she's not really going to react
and he's going to be the one that breaks down
because she's not letting him be himself
or whatever the fuck issue is.
It's just,
it's sad to watch
because we loved them
and I thought that it made a lot of sense
but to see someone do this
and only think about themselves
after your fiance,
I just had a baby.
It's just tough.
It's the worst look possible for a dude.
It's pretty bad.
Pretty fucking bad.
I don't know how he's going to come out of it.
But anyway,
the episode ends with Zach pulling Janet.
for a chat. Now, what I took away from this? Because Zach is trying to explain to her where he's coming
from with this whole thing. You know, he's naming instances in which she, she made a mistake. She is
listening. She's a little combative. And it's, it's really funny to me when she's saying stuff.
Like, well, I'm not going to talk about other people. I was like, you talk about other people all the time.
Like, don't stop now. Just get through this. For the love of God, get through this. I think she always has like a
weird sense of like you can tell that she was either rehearsing or coached into doing whatever
ends up going on television but when she's talking to Zach the sense that I got was oh let me
only focus on mine and Zach's relationship yeah we talk about me and Zach and when Zach starts
talking about which is very valid about everybody else and how she's made them feel and how it's
now made him feel that she's doing that to other people she's like whoa whoa I thought this was between
me and you I thought we were only talking about our problem that is your problems that's what
Zach's trying to tell you.
So I think she was a little less combative, but again,
she always kind of like peaks her head up a little bit and shows you who she really is.
I know.
And, you know, a really good example.
And this paints everything in a different light.
Zach's like, you know, the thing about the pool day.
Really, Kristen kicked me out of the house.
He made it seem like this whole big thing.
I'm out of the impression.
It was a big thing.
I guess it wasn't nearly as bad as it was labeled.
So again, and she even says like, yeah, you know, you're right.
Here's what I got from this.
Janet's willing to make concessions.
And that's really all we need.
We need somebody to be able to make concessions.
Yep.
Janet is willing.
That's good enough.
So is Zach.
Yes.
Like I think Zach, that's a huge takeaway from me because the way that conversation started off, like Lala said, like he's very fucking detail oriented.
Like he's going through this.
Like, no, he's actually very prepared.
And there's a lot of things that he wants to say to Janet, which is very good because that shows me that he's willing to at least have that conversation.
Like, hey, I'm ready to do this.
But there are things that you need to answer for specifically, such as X, Y,
and Z. So he was prepared to go into it, but the end of it turned into a, look, I just wanted you
to hear me out and understand where I'm coming from. I want to hear how you feel about that.
And now that we're there, we can work on something moving forward. And we've seen them squash
beef before. And it usually goes the same way. This one I think was make or break, though, because
Zach is very important. Because if she gets to a point, and as long as she doesn't just turn back into
evil Janet right away, she'll be able to get to a point where Zach is cool with her. And then I could
see Jasmine kind of coming around a little bit as long as she makes some concessions.
And then it's okay.
Then I'm fine.
I don't really give up a fucking dating.
You got a lot of the cast at that point.
If you get those two, I don't care if, like Doty, her and Doty smoke a bowl right
after this.
And Doty's like, this doesn't mean anything.
It's not an olive branch.
It's not an olive bowl or whatever.
And Janet's like, hey, you know, this is what it is.
But it's nice.
This is reminiscent of who we used to be.
I'm like, all right, well, maybe you could still do that.
Again, it's fools gold.
I don't really care about that.
I don't need her to be friends.
I just need a good amount of the people willing to be around her.
And then we're okay.
Then we have a full cast again.
Hell yeah.
Well,
that's what this episode told me.
We're on the right track.
There's light at the end of the tunnel.
We just need to bring everybody back together.
Whatever that looks like doesn't really matter as long as we're all in the same house
together.
So we have ways to do that now.
Now, for questions,
Shooter's going to take it away because Dev's leaving
and I'm being Scott, you're hanging out tonight.
So I'm going to go get the baby.
You do questions.
I'll do questions.
Oh, God, I'm going to talk so much.
Thank you so much.
Steels out of here.
This is our first sign off individually.
One of the braf bros has got to go.
Okay, bye.
Love you.
Oh, God.
All right.
So first thing up from A.V. Labadea.
Some things, i.e. Britney's waxing scenes shouldn't be on TV.
I agree.
I do think that, like, you can reference it.
But, yeah, going that deep into that is kind of crazy.
Hold on.
My dog is freaking out.
All right.
All right.
Next one up from Jennifer M2M.
Dare I say I'm leaning on Janet's side.
Zach and Kristen are prolonging the bullshit.
it. Zach was so mean and aggressive.
Look, I think that all we really need is Zach and Janet to somewhat get on the same page
or at least be somewhat okay.
And then we can move forward.
All we want at the end of this is just moving forward.
And this is a good point from Ryan Stomeman 83.
Why would anyone want to move forward with Janet when she doesn't mean her apologies?
I agree.
In the real world, yes.
But I don't need them to be friends.
And we shouldn't want them to be friends.
That's all that matters.
Okay.
Okay. Next one from, oh, Hannah Parson, love Lacey. She will save the show if they're smart enough to have her more on the show. I agree. I think that she is a very interesting personality and we need desperately. We desperately need a weird quirky personality like that, who I feel like she can kind of steal the show at some point if we only give her a chance. And we'll do one more here from MLO-1969. How is it possible for the show to be so dark and boring at the
the same time. I don't know. That's the question that we've been asking ourselves for a couple of years
now. It's less dark now. Still the same amount of boring, but maybe, and we're being optimistic,
maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel. Steal anything to say? Nope. I'm talking to an empty
chair. Yeah, there's nothing there. Anyway, that's all I got. Bob Brozer out of here.
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