Bros & Shows - The Cast Hates Lexi so Jesse Gets a Pass (Summer House Reunion pt 1)

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

What's up Bros? What a strange start to the reunion. For the first half we cover Ciara and West. While it was actually nice to get some closure and clarity on the topic, that happened last season... It does appear that West learned how to speak and we thought he did a nice job. Maybe he and Ciara can be friends in the future, who knows? We get to hear from Imrul who agrees that he got pigeon holed, but also that he shouldve made more of an effort. Then we watch as almost the entire cast laughs at Lexi's expense, takes Jesse's side, defends Jesse and shrugs off how Lexi feels entirely. It was bizarre. We know this group gets cliquey but where was the energy they had for others in the past? Ciara goes in on Lexi and yet she has none of that smoke for Jesse who got her in this situation. It was disappointing. On all fronts. We're not even big Lexi fans and we are screaming Team Lexi from the rooftops right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The twisted tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. This was a strange reunion. This was a very strange reunion. Yeah, it felt rushed. Did you get that sense? Yes and no. Yes, it did. But for reasons that were all controllable that you didn't have to do. And then it just took a very strange turn. It's just a strange reunion. It's very weird. There's a lot to unpack, but then there's not a lot to unpack?

Yeah, see, it's weird. Shows and Shows, I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brows and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by.

the fabulous Gooder. What's it, dude? Not a lot. I am surprised that no one laid down in that bed because it looked comfy as hell in that reunion set. I'm 95 to 99.9% of sure. That was just a big blanket on top of a hard stage. I'd lay on it. I don't think that was a bed. What an outrageous concept if they had a gigantic mattress that no one would use just for the set? Yeah. What do they what do they use during the party? they did like air mattresses right like blow up oh the one big one was a trampoline oh yeah yeah yeah that's a good idea yeah now it was definitely one of the more innovative uh sets for a reunion that i've seen sure i mean i miss the oc with just the big green screen behind it that was kind of cool but uh god that's you

know movie magic in la am i right la am i right look i i i had the thought because i'm i'm confused because things happened in the reunion. We talked about a lot. I'm not really sure that we got anywhere. Well, no, because we decided to spend 30 minutes on last year. Yeah. So I'm just confused. At first, I was like, we're going to be just like Imral.

We're going to be in and out on this bitch. No. No. Yes, I know. It's just. I think we're going to spend so much time. We're either going to come away from talking about this more confused or we're going to figure it out. I mean, the topic is being disused.

disgust weren't necessarily confusing. It was just more so like the time, energy and focus that we committed to West and Sierra was so strange. Like, they didn't have a storyline this season. I get we need to wrap it up a little bit, but like, that has no weight on what we just watched for three months. I think I, I think I got it, actually. I think I got it.

What? Really the only thing that happened this season was Lexi. and Jesse and the fallout and all the other things so they're they're filling with stuff and i agree with you yeah we need resolution we need this to go full circle and i think that at the end of all of this like sierra and west will be fine next year like i wouldn't be surprised at this summer they're friends again but i agree i think yeah i think because if you look at it and we talked about it you know you can spend a little bit of time on lindsay and carl not really sure how far you're going to get with that if carl's willing to even talk more about it i don't think

you will be i think it's going to look like they're going to talk about it a little bit next episode. Yeah, and then you can talk about Amanda and Kyle a little bit here and there, but I mean, for all intents of purposes, they had a really good summer and it seems like they're in a good place. I think they might talk about some shit just to like talk about it. But yeah, I think the only real thing that we really need to talk about, obviously Paige and Craig, which we start off with, but it's really just Lexi and Jesse. So I think they're going to, they didn't want to do, which I, maybe I appreciate that actually, because they didn't want to just spend the entire reunion talking about, like, Lexi and Jesse because we're kind of done with it. Yeah, but again, like, I don't need 30 minutes of this. I could use five, maybe 10, where it's like, hey, we didn't get a chance to settle this last season because West didn't know to talk. So now we have the opportunity to clear it up finally. Obviously, some other things have happened.

So maybe it sheds light on this situation. So you guys might be in a different place. And can we move forward? great I wanted the answers to all of those things why it took so long to do that was beyond me because again for the sole purpose of this happened last year we haven't talked about it during the season really other than the beginning and then the inside jokes of west being like oh she told me to pull forward like we're moving forward like that's great other than that this had no bearing on this season so to spend this much time on it I thought was a weird thing yeah no and it wasn't even bad like it wasn't a bad one through of everything yeah you know i'm just confused yeah i think it's it's sort of like hey things were too raw and emotional for us to really have this kind of conversation last year so we'll do it this year and like again i i agree with you there was like there is resolution in here i think that's a lot better they were both able to

like share and hear each other and they didn't connect out each other's throats and they connects people stayed out of it for the most part so like great it was good it wasn't that it just i don't understand yeah i think it's just filler i think it's filler i think it's filler and i think that like timing kind of makes sense because they're able to talk about it but other than that i'm with you it doesn't have a bearing on this season but not a lot of things have a bearing on this season i mean we could actually spend this whole and we did get into the emerald stuff we could spend the entire episode talking about the emerald stuff and just like i know talking about what happened there because that was weird but yeah i don't yeah i'm with you yeah and let's just jump in

congrats to amanda on finally getting first chair that's great west has some notes that just say to talk which is good for him and then a check in with lexie how did it feel watching everything back not great and i imagine it didn't and imroll will be joining us later so that's the rundown that's the setup i actually very much appreciated from Andy. We're going to get Craig and Paige out of the way. Let's do this first. Well, we're not. We're going to talk about it again next episode.

When he said that, I was like, why? Yeah. Why are we doing that? We don't need to do that. This is not the big follow up at the end of the reunion where it's like, we need to know. This happened. Yeah, unfortunately timing wise, Southern Charm was the one. Southern Charm's reunion was the one timing wise that made more sense.

Like, all right, let's talk about Paige and Craig and try to figure it out. And obviously, you kind of have to give Paige. as much time, if not more than what Craig got to talk about it at her reunion. But timing wise, yeah, I mean, this was filmed, what, five, six weeks ago? Even at that point, nobody cared anymore. We're done with it. It's half a year after

the fact. And we don't really need to spend that much time. No. And yes, page 100% deserves the same platform that Craig got, if not more. But page is much more clean and concise. She doesn't need that much time to get to the bottom of it. She'll tell us how she feels. And we can move on. So I'm glad they did it in the beginning, the mention that we're going to talk about it again.

I was like, man, why? And it's the same shit we've been talking about. We don't have to spend too much time on it. Obviously, I'm glad that Andy pointed out that Craig kept fenting that he was surprised by the breakup. But the signs that we all watched during Summer House were all clearly there. And we get some more information that page is like, look, this was not a new convo. We talked about this all the time. We actually broke up briefly back in February.

We ended up getting back together. So no, this was not a blind side moment. He knew it was coming. The writing was on the wall. None of us. That just confirmed everything that we already knew. We've been talking about it. As soon as, and I said this last week or the week before, I think, as soon as we had that

first conversation of will, they won't they, it's like, breakups already starting. So that's pretty much what Paige is saying. Like, we've had conversations. You've seen a lot of those conversations, just not the, you know, the breakup in February because nothing's filming in February. There's no more winter house. and Southern term doesn't start to like April and obviously Summerhouse doesn't start until July.

So that's off-season stuff. We weren't privy to it. But at the end of the day, we all knew once they broke up, we're like, uh, yeah, this has been going on for a while. This isn't surprising. So no.

I fully, again, I believe when Page says that, and I don't understand. Anytime that somebody gets blindsided by something, we said it about Lindsay and Carl last year, it's like anytime somebody gets blindsided, we're like, how? What do you mean blindsides? I know you're in deep and everything, but like, come on.

Yeah, exactly. And when she's talking about it, like you said, I believe her, you know, I believe that she tried her best to not make it team page or team Craig. And I think that the way she handled it was amicable. And I think that when it got to a certain point that she was defending herself and asking Craig to help out and the certain ins and outs of everything, that's when it turned a little bit because she's like, well, fuck, I'm going to explain my side then if he's going to be out here gaslighting. And I think that's fair. But I think she does a really good job of, again, she's always. clean, concise, straight to the point, logical, makes a lot of sense to me. I'm like, it's so simple, like how you and I at least approach certain things. It's like, if you have a valid argument, you present the evidence and you do it in a calm, convincing manner, we'll believe you until we see it. And Paige, Paige wasn't pulling out any of those, like, I don't know, a lot of people commented on last week, how something got cut where Craig was talking to two girls while they were together and all this shit.

She didn't pull out of any of that. She wasn't accusatory. she wasn't pulling out like any show stoppers or anything like that Craig was talking about buying a ring yeah yeah he's talking about buying a ring and being blindside and all this it's like uh we don't really know how to handle this but we're probably signing with page because we felt like this for a while so shouldn't you it makes the most sense and then when page page starts talking after like two sentences you're like yep that's true got to be true tracks all of this tracks and as far as the ring goes she maintains that no ring was purchased I don't know if we'll ever get the answer to that one And I'm likely to believe that. I know you think that he did buy a ring. I don't know. This is maybe that's why everybody buys from Kyle Chan because he's a credible source that Bravo can tap in.

That's actually a really good point. So we can just check with Kyle Chan. Hey, did this happen? Yeah. All purchases for jewelry, especially engagement rings, need to be purchased from Kyle Chan for verification purposes. Correct. there you go there's a free ad for Kyle Chan if we talk about him so much no he's so he always pops up you know I don't have any issues of which is funny I like Kyle Chad pops up there I do too we move on to West

again I was like all right cool they're going to wrap this up that's nice I wanted some clarification now that they're both in a place they can probably communicate let's get into this didn't expect it to go as long as it did but they're talking about the Sierra relationship and we get the montage of those two together last season then you get the montage of those two butting heads this season and west's whole take was like i thought it would be cordial but he did well by the way he did i think he did well too i know i think it's just damned if you do damned if he don't he didn't talk last year people gave him shit for not talking he didn't he talked way too much this year apparently he didn't talk any more than sierra talked he didn't talk anymore than i mean they

might have ended some out i was like damn dude like if he does talk you guys shit on if he doesn't talk you guys shit on i'm like what's he's supposed to do he's still going and i thought he had gotten to a point like yes you know he was apologizing he walked through all of the media stuff uh you know whether you believe it or not really doesn't matter anymore because it's so fucking long ago that who gives a shit at this point but he walks through all of the media stuff and his point of view is you know i just wanted to talk about how our relationship just kind of ran its course and you know i missed our friendship and i didn't really think that i was thrown you under the bus but i do understand how that would hurt you and

how you would feel that way. So he said all the right things. And he also said, you know, I said a lot of things to deflect. There was a lot of stupid fucking shit. So he hit all the notes that he needed to where it's like, yeah, you did say some dumb stuff. And I thought he did a nice job explaining it. I thought he did too.

And then at the end of all of this, he kind of gets going again, but it's just really more remorse and more apologies. Yeah, which is good. Which, look, I think that's good. I don't think that he was being redundant. I don't think that he was going on for too long with run on sentences or anything like that. he finished with a sincere apology again just so you know looking back and watching things back

and feeling this and feeling that and talking to other people this is how I feel and I felt really bad I shouldn't have hurt you and it was never my intention to do that and I hope that we can move forward like that's how he ended it in the middle everybody's like up talking too much come I know I was like he wasn't that was sincere that was nice I thought so too and I thought that it clearly resonated with Sierra enough for it to leave some kind of impact. She gets a little bit emotional. And she also opens up a little bit more as to why she's so selective, why she's so protective, why she is looking for a specific type of person.

It's because of her upbringing. She doesn't have a relationship with her dad. Her mom's been married a few times. She's at this weird place in her life during the, and this is kind of big, I thought. Yeah. Because we didn't know this information that was huge. Yeah, because in the midst of everything, right, I think it was December, they said. Yeah.

Those two were obviously going through it. They weren't sure. And I'm not trying to paint it like, oh, see, West tried because West wasn't doing his side of things. He wasn't taking care of his shit. So I'm not vindicating him by any means. But this was interesting that in the midst of their budding heads, if you will, they're not completely done yet, but they're trying to figure things out. she went to was it Costa Rica for two weeks I think it was Costa Rica yeah for retreat she said too for a retreat because it was close to the holidays and her mom

was getting remarried so it was a reminder that her mom has this new family she has no relationship with her dad she's feeling lonely she's feeling a lot of things so she went for two weeks and turned her phone off so west couldn't even get in contact with her which again doesn't change a whole lot because of how he handled things with the press but it is are really, really interesting note to be like, oh shit, well, that, I mean, that adds to it for sure. Weirdly enough, and this is just my perspective. I don't really care if anybody else agrees, but I don't think that they should be dating. I don't think they should have been dating. I think this was just like a little fling. They got a little too far. And then they got to a point

where it wasn't working. He was running its course. They were figuring it out. But it wouldn't have worked anyway. And if he hadn't gone to the press, I think this season would have been a lot weirder. I think weirdly, him going to the press was a hard stop, a hard, like, edge of everything that put Sierra in a position where she's like, nah, fuck this. Like, and rightfully so, fuck this. Like, I want nothing to do with you. You have to work through this summer, but I think they're going to be better now moving forward than they would have if he hadn't done that. I'm not saying good for West for going out and doing that. By no means, but it gave her closure in summer. Yeah, the view from like 50,000 feet looking back down, it's like, okay, if you

didn't do this, it would have been weird. You guys would have started off this summer. Who knows what would have happened in the spring before the summer. If you guys were still dating, something could have happened that would have been worse. And then it would have been a lot worse going into the summer. So I think looking at it now in hindsight, it makes things a lot easier, at least for us, the audience. We didn't get held up on it. Yeah. I think we're done. This was good closure for everybody. Sierra West, us, Andy, whoever you want. This was just I think we can actually move forward, which we don't usually get this opportunity in Bravo. No, and that's why I was saying I'm not mad at the scene necessarily.

It just felt like maybe it's simply what you said. They don't have a lot to discuss. So let's tie a bow on this. And at least it was a good scene, like a good conversation where I got a lot out of it. It was just confusing to me. But I thought it was fucking so annoying that at the very end of it, you know, they're talking back and forth a little bit, that he misses his friendship with Sierra, hoping that they can get to some kind of relationship in the future

and, like, he hadn't had that depth with anybody before. And you can tell that she's feeling this whole thing, too. But for Jesse to jump in, well, don't do any articles. You don't get to talk about anything in regards to this situation. You don't get to say shit like that.

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Alcohol and select markets. Product availability may vary by Regency app for details. I know what's going on. I think that is actually my take. I can tell you exactly what's going on and we'll kind of work our way through it as we go through the Jesse and Lexi stuff. But when it comes to that, that's just Jesse, or Jesse, help himself like he's going to make a comment like that every single time yeah yeah it's and we'll wait to get there because i want to cover him roll first yeah yeah to get to get into some emerald

action here because this was bizarre it was i thought i was going to go differently so people were thinking and there were theories floating around there that there's you know we're still going to get some crazy announcement or something in the second one i guess but they were thinking oh imrule did something and he left no emerald got treated like dan and yell. I'm trying to treat it like a friend of what what no no I'm saying he did something horrible and got kicked off no no no not not horrible um no they're saying that like he dropped a bomb or something and then just like walked off and like finished oh yeah early and like he left early a lot of people were talking about how he left early he left early because he got friend of treatment

he comes in late he leaves early like after this episode he's probably there for about two or three minutes then he's done so that's why he left early that's why he wasn't at dinner with with Andy and everybody because he left fully left they were still going for another like hour or two probably so yeah there was nothing to talk about when it comes to any of that all the theories that were floating around about emerald and not you know going out with the boys afterwards he he left early like there's actually nothing to reason to do that I actually appreciated the line of questioning that they got into it I didn't think they were going to do this because out of the gate and he's like do you feel like you got pigeonholed as orgy beast and I was like thank you yeah fuck yeah right going to address it. And I will say, hearing his responses, I'm like, all right, well, he played a part in this and he's taking accountability for it. He's like, look, yes, I did, but I also led with a sex party. And I also didn't clarify that this is not commonplace for me. I'm like an orgy novice, if anything, but I didn't do a great job of clearing that whole thing up. I was like, okay. Like, that actually makes sense, you know, that you because later when they're talking about do you think that how you came into the house

and focusing on hookups and all of these things limited your ability to connect with the rest of the house he says yes but then he also points out and this is really important he only hooked up four times he did but four girls three times total three times four girls third and four yeah so yeah he gets orgy beast i'm happy that andy praised it that way you know pigeonhole is is a word that came directly from this podcast. I won't take credit for that question. But I mean, that is what we were saying. That's what we were saying the entire year. I thought that Emerald's point and Emerald's whole entire conversation about all of this in his image. And obviously he gets into the thing that happened a little bit later with his family after the show aired and all of that, which was

incredibly sad. The self-awareness on this guy is through the roof. To be able to just sit there and say, you could easily sit there and say, yeah, I hated the editing. I hated the editing. I hated production. Yeah, I got. Every time that I, every time that I was doing things, like I was connecting with the house. I was being friends with everybody. Like, no, he took full accountability and said, yeah, you know what? I was nervous. I was alone. I didn't really know anybody. I went into what I know, which is going out and hooking up. That's just his personality. That's what he wants to do. And that's what's going to work. And I love the joke of, you know, I was just being a good friend, a good neighbor to everybody in the Hamptons. That's great. But he was aware. He understood.

He's like, look, I did this to myself. And it sucks. Because looking back on it, I didn't get a chance to do all of these things that the summer house provides. But I also did this to myself. And I really only have myself to blame. You could have easily looked at Jesse. He could have looked at West and said, like, yeah, I fucking hate the orgy beast thing. You guys started calling me orgy beast. I hated it.

It pigeonholed me for sure. This is where I am. No, he took full accountability. I thought that this was a real stand-up guy maneuver. But the end of it was sad. It makes sense because I don't think he's coming back. No, I don't think he is either. I don't think he deserves another chance.

I don't either especially after what he said like he gets into the whole thing with his family and he's like yeah my brother had a birthday party for my nephew and they were not sure of whether or not to invite me to the party and they ended up not inviting him because they're religious and they saw the orgyb stuff on TV and they weren't comfortable with im rule going to his nephew's birthday party that's sad that's really sad the way that the question the line of questioning started off too where he talks about his parents you know they're still at bangladesh i was like thank god all right cool yeah great and he goes so much worse but my brother i was like i was like i was like i was like oh you did say your parents are pretty strict you had a strict upbringing and i hope you didn't get shit for that didn't get shit from his parents all right great but here's a sadder story i'm like oh fuck me dude yeah you want to hear about my relationship with my nephew getting affected oh no yeah what a shame but the end of this which is what i want to talk about sure the person who says

and speaks up and i understand you know the sentiment you didn't really have a chance to connect everybody because you were doing this and you did focus on hooking up so like we get it you know there is more to you and we want to see more to you who the fuck said that oh it was lexie oh lexie said that. Oh, sick. Yeah. You have zero self-awareness. You're really going to look at another person in this house and say you focused on one thing the whole summer and it affected your relationship and everybody else. But you're going to go ahead and blame everybody else in the cast. Hold on. Yeah, I know. I know. She also said we could have asked more to get to know you. I know your little devil's advocate in there. But seriously, Lexi, are you fucking kidding me? This is when you're going to

speak up. I know you're not going to speak up during West and Sierra. That is not your place. you weren't here last year. We are doing a 30-minute segment on something that happened last season, weird enough, whatever. This is the worst time to interject yourself, talking about somebody else's interrelationships in the house because of one thing that they did. You did that all summer. Did you argue that she is the utmost expert on the topic because she did the same thing? If she took accountability, if she said that, yeah, she would be the utmost expert.

If she said, hey, Imberl, I get it. I did the same thing. I didn't get relationships with any of these people. because of what I did. And I only focused on one thing. I feel you. We're going to come back strong next year. That would have been nice.

And I think everybody else would have been like, whatever, you know, the cast doesn't like her. So that's a different thing. We'll get into that. I mean, quite clearly as we watched the rest of this. Quite clearly. But if she had said something like that,

yeah, I could get behind that. Instead, it's like, hey, you know, we know what you were doing, but you didn't get a chance to be friends with everybody else because of what you were doing.

Lexi, shut up. Are you serious? She literally finishes it with, we could have asked more to get to know, you you're focused on one part of it i know and i good she should know she should not have spoken here i think you're nistic so it was so hypocritical no i agree that part was for sure but i thought that the fact that she at least called it out not even because of who it was calling it out but that

somebody called it out like hey we could have done more to help this guy out like i'm glad that was yeah no one else did anybody that's coming for the rest of the cast by the way yes even in this moment and where we are and all the discourse that happened up until now when you guys were filming this reunion, Jesse and West or Kyle or Carl, any of them who have been there for years, could have looked over and said, look, partly our fault. We did do that. And there was an opportunity there where Andy was talking about the nickname of Orgy Beast. Somebody could have stepped up and said, and now I know West kind of already hit his word limit,

so he's done. But anybody else could have stepped up and just said, dude, you know what? We could have done more. we could have connected with you a little bit more. And Imral probably would have countered that with, you know, I could have connected with you guys. It could have been a nice moment. But none of them spoke up, you know,

obviously the beginning of Lexi I've spoken enough about, but somebody said it, which is nice. This would have been a good position for Gabby, I think, to step in. But Gabby wasn't there all summer, so it was almost. But let's get into it because it's been a long time coming. We've been watching it all season. And then we get to Lexi and Jesse and we get a montage of all of the shenanigans. and like the L word getting brought up so quickly.

And Andy asked Jesse, like, how did this all happen? How did this occur? And you started off fine. I was like, you know, I fell hard. I got excited. I never felt like that really before other than when I was in high school. And we already heard about that one. He was dating some chick.

And then she cheated on in him with his best friend. So I might explain why he has the relationship with women that he does, not an excuse, just interesting to understand. And then somebody, and this is so funny, and this is kind of Jesse in a nutshell, somebody from the audience or Twitter or whatever asked a question, said, did you want to date Lexi because you wanted to date somebody really hot? No, I liked Lexi for Lexi. Her eyes, her smile.

It's like, those are physical attributes, man. Those are physical attributes that you just named. But like, fucking weird choice, bro. Like, what? How do you answer that question by professing your potential love for this girl? Like, what are? I don't know. You know where you are.

You know what's coming. And, you know. You're not going to soften the blow with niceties now. This is the problem. I think he knew going into this and based on his actions and the way that he was talking during all of this. I think he knew he was never really in any danger. Like, there was just, there was nothing out there that was going to come after him because he knew the rest of the cast was just going to be like,

whatever, Lexi, we don't give a shit. Jesse, continue to joke around. Continue to flirt. They just simply, and there has to be something else going on. I know nobody's going to come out and say it explicitly, but like, they hate Lexi. They do not. Like, it's not they have like a whatever feeling towards her.

Like they do enroll. They don't like her at all. And I don't know if it's the press tour. I don't know if it's, you know, The end of the summer, I don't know if it was all summer, or if it's a vibe that they caught in the beginning. I have no idea when it happened, but they simply just don't like her. And they will protect Jesse. And he knew he wasn't in any danger.

This is why he was saying all of this shit, because he can still come out. He's hoping he can come out of this looking like a good guy. Hey, I fell for the girl. It just didn't work out. He's trying to take the West approach. He's trying to take the Rannett's course and it just didn't work. It's like, no. Yeah.

There's shit what you have to answer for. And we have a preexisting thing that correlates to this. So I was expecting something within that realm. I didn't think it was as deep as that. So I didn't expect as much backlash, but I expected something. But when we start to get into it, I'm like, oh, that's not what's going to happen at all. Because we're talking about the toe and all of the questions that we all have, right? Why did you go in there for starters?

That's kind of fucking weird. And he's like, well, I was drunk and I wanted to see what's up. It's like not in a million years when I walk into a room like that, drunk, sober, or otherwise. But the story goes, when he walked in, first of all, everybody's naked. That's another part of it that I assumed. But hearing confirmation is weird that you stuck around in there with three nude people that just point for 37 minutes. And the I'm hard thing is a joke. This drove me fucking nuts.

And this is when I realized, I was like, this is what this is going to be the whole time. Because he's like, I was joking. And Lindsay goes, everything he says is a joke. Everybody laughs. I'm like, guys, this is horse shit. This is not fair to Lexi, who's sitting on the other couch, not amused by this, but we're reliving a bunch of shit that fucked her up this summer. And all of you guys are laughing.

All of you guys are like, oh, yeah, remember when he did that? Ha, ha, ha, ha. That's ridiculous. I have a different disappointment with the cast. So, yeah, everybody's got their shortcomings. You can say, like, hold people accountable when they do shit like this. hold people accountable when they do dumb shit on a reality TV show and you're sitting at the reunion. This is so easy.

I know you guys love Jesse. I know you I know you guys are going to be friends with him. I know everything's going to be fine going into this summer. You have an opportunity to make very good reunion TV to just tee off on Jesse and ask him a bunch of questions, make him uncomfortable because he did a bunch of shit this summer. He got involved in a lot of stuff. He was in hot water. He made Sierra feel the type of way. He made Lexi feel the type of way the entire.

summer you have an opportunity to make good television to make a good reunion to go after somebody who was the focal point of the summer of the season who did a lot of dumb things to make him ask or to ask him about all of those things and make him answer for his crimes that's how good tv works that's how reunions work instead they took the approach of we love jesse come on we don't give a shit about lexie we love jesse like i i felt so bad for lexie at the end of this and i'm not alexie fan i don't like her but i felt bad because she was being gaslit by everybody in the room and jesse was just able to stop like when he talked in the beginning of this i'm like up he's gonna have to answer for a little bit more he's gonna have to answer some questions here it's not

gonna be that bad i don't think anybody's gonna jump down his throat maybe lexie will maybe gabby will but that's about the extent of it he he easily could have just stopped talking i i don't think he said more than like two or three sentences yeah like he knew he was never in danger so it was never going to be a problem no it was brutal but we get to the sierra and flirting with her thing and we get more from that i didn't know he said this in the little cut scene it's like don't let lexie stop me from you is that what you're saying i'm like jesus christ like yep there's just so many different instances of this montage of jesse being a dick i know and all he had to say for that was yeah you know watching back i i went a little over the line it's like what like that was his response

you take this is you take a responsibility for this you're taking accountability you went a little but and he didn't double down on it either nope that bummed me out too i was like dude you're going to let this guy walk like scott free that doesn't make a lot of sense to me like you said the only thing he says it's watching it back i can see and i understand it seems so disingenuous that he's clearly going through the motions trying to say the right thing and lexie makes a great point an outstanding point when she watched it back the biggest problem here you were never ever like this with her in front of me, which is completely inappropriate. And that's a huge red flag.

And I was so confused by Sierra because she's like, I get you could see it that way, but like, to be honest, we've done a lot worse. I was like, what are you doing? What does that mean? Because you're talking about the peck that you guys had last season. Why would you phrase it like that? Why are you getting defensive against Lexi? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

And she blames the press tour. I'm like, well, if you go back and. watch the clips, she's always alluding to the leading questions. They're leading questions and even the way she responds is pulling the finger at Jesse that Jesse affected these relationships, but she's taking it personally and she keeps going back to this press tour that she went on. I was like, what the fuck's going on here? Like, I was so taken aback by this entire thing and it gets worse because she makes the comment

then she's right where she's like, if I wanted to fuck Jesse, I would have before the season started to spite west i'm like ha ha that's true and if you wanted to you definitely could she's like i really don't want to and then jesse's like sierra like come on i'm like what the fuck's your problem lexie's on the other side of the room this has been a huge sticking point but that's not okay there's no feelings i no it's not it's not okay in really any format and it's definitely not okay in a reunion because it just doesn't make any sense it doesn't make for good tv and every clip that I see of Lexi on her press tour, yeah, they're leading questions.

I don't like the format of, and I'm not saying, you know, we're great, but like I don't like the format of most Bravo podcast interviews. The questions are insane that people ask. They lead them to say scandalous shit. They grab your hands and pull you to a point and then make you answer there

instead of just like letting you go. Like if Lexi was able to let go, yeah, she would probably say some questionable shit. Yeah, she's probably got a weird Sierra complex in there because of Jesse's moves and because of Sierra's moves, honestly. So, yeah, that would make a lot of sense to me. But she wasn't going after Sierra.

She was answering questions about Sierra because we were watching a show where her boyfriend was flirting with Sierra. So what did you want her to do? Yes, she kept it on topic for Jesse for most of those interviews, but a lot of those interviews are obviously going to ask, how do you feel about Sierra? And she doesn't trust Sierra. We saw it at the end. This isn't like a fucking, and the gaslighting at the end of this was insane. where it was Tierra going at Lexi talking about like you didn't have to like come after me.

You didn't have to bring me up. I had nothing to do with this. He had a lot to do with this. You leaned into it. You knew what you were doing. Amanda knew what she was doing when she was talking to Craig. Everybody knew what they were doing. But nobody's copping to it because nobody cares.

It's not a situation in which they're like denying. I would have more respect actually if they were just full deny. Like you're going like too much. Like I wasn't involved in this at all. I tried to, you know, behind the scenes do this and that and whatever. I told him to back off. He wouldn't back off. Nothing.

We got none of that. Playing indifferent. Yep. We just got complete and utter, I don't give a shit about Lexi. Whatever. Go ahead. Which is brutal. And it doesn't make a lot of sense to me for all the things that we've seen on this show.

And I've got a, I think a really good point to make shortly, but I want to get through the, the start of everything. The start of why Sierra thought that she had to go in on Lexi. because Andy even sets it up he's like looking back was Sierra in the wrong she doesn't even go for it she goes what sucked to see was Amanda and Paige say they should date and page rightfully so I was like well well I didn't say that yeah and I'm glad that Lexi was like no you're right you didn't but Amanda did and we go back to that scene of Amanda saying that and she said well I was just saying that because it's so unrealistic like blah blah blah but looking back yeah I guess

I could see that I was like no you say that's a really bad look look, I'm sorry, like, we were drinking. I was just like playing into it. That's not fair to you. I'm so sorry, right? Anything along those lines. Just take accountability for, yeah, you guys, we watched all of you laughing, egging them both on, talking about them hooking up just because Lexi was MIA.

Do you know what the problem is? And I've been coming to this idea, not even really an idea. It's been right in front of our faces the whole time. And people give us shit for it because we always talk about. girls girls we always talk about girls that are helping other girls we saw a moment where page did say you it's only been a month and a half like you need to walk away you should walk away that was semi girls girl but mostly i think it was hey this is kind of fucking up the house just enough we've had enough you got to walk away you have a chance right now to go these girls these women

in this house they're not actual girls girls they're friends with each other and they protect each other they are the whole house is not like they're so clicky die for their click popular kids and you know what the funniest part is do you know who the person and not in this reunion the only person in this whole room that took a chance to be like lex i got you was kyle kyle's the only one who ever took a chance on lexie to say hey i see your side of it this is pretty fucking crazy the rest of the house is gaslighting you ignoring you and flocking to jesse they did that all summer she's not actually crazy they're making her seem crazy because she broke up with somebody and they all ran to him even though he treated

her like shit all summer. So it is pretty wild to watch this. And I hate that because everybody gives us shit in the comments and people comment on other things about them. Page Amanda, Sierra, they are, they're not girls, girls. They're friends with each other. They protect Lindsay now because Lindsay's involved. That's it.

Let's not forget, Sierra and Lindsay had beef for a long time. And who went on a fucking press tour about Lindsay? Sierra did. So shut up. where she's like, oh, you know, I had a rough stretch of relationships. You went on a press store about Lindsay and what? There was no problem there. We're all good with that.

Yeah, because Paige didn't like Lindsay either. Now Paige likes Lindsay, so you guys aren't going to talk about it. So it's all bullshit. They're so clicky and they're so like if you're not in with us and you don't try as hard with us and we don't really care. They'll let guys come into the group all the time. Hey, Jesse, hey, West, you guys are kind of funny. You guys can hang around.

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like well i didn't know he was doing that and then when you went on your press tour you made it seem like you were coming for people namely me and then they show the clip of when she was allegedly coming after sierra they led her with a question she didn't respond at the end she sat there because they're like oh sierra better watch out at the reunion lexie did not acknowledge it she sat there the entire time but also the best part of what you just said is that sierra acknowledged that jesse was pitting the girls against each other we had this whole conversation at the end of the summer yeah maybe you didn't see it but then you watched the show back and you realized it but at the time you just said i didn't realize he was doing that i didn't know he was doing that

but you do now and where's that not change your opinion because it should my whole thing with this where she you know earlier said like that's just our relationship we're flirty it means nothing she says right here you're painting jessie and i like there's more there it's like no we're not no she's not we as an audience are watching this season how you guys were the flirting that was going on back and forth we watched after the apology you guys started flirting immediately again and then we see in the off season we hear this rumor that lexie had a birthday party and that instead of going to that you and Jesse went out to brunch and Jesse decided to post something on this Instagram story tagging you the day of the party now I don't believe that

Sierra had that intention of being like oh yeah let's get her I do believe that Jesse did that intentionally and for Sierra to say I didn't know when your birthday was it's like yeah you did because you were in the group chat in the text message so that's not a very good excuse and then nobody that's what I felt that's when I felt so bad for Lexi because she's like yeah now she's losing her voice too because she's like yeah I I I texted you guys what do you mean you didn't know and like she just gets talked over right away like she's telling you it's like irrelevant to them they don't care none of them give a shit they're laughing at her it's so tough to watch like they're fucking mean girls honestly it's embarrassing to watch

it's not just mean girls it's everybody in that room is complicit at the moment and that's my whole point is she wants to talk about this relationship with jesse this is how we are it's flirty there's nothing more there you're trying to spin it like there's something else can we go back to the season where she was into Austin and then Austin made out with Lindsay because that was World War III. That was a fucking disaster. And she went and talked all kinds of shit

about Lindsay on podcasts. And they weren't even dating. That was just a hookup. That was her being into Austin and Lindsay stepping in and trying to steal them away. None of that was okay with you at all. You had a complete shit fit over that whole thing. So now in a similar instance that you have experienced,

with on the other side of things, Lexi, who's still not pointing the finger at you, even when the brunch thing comes up. And it's like you guys, you know, Sierra says you're trying to make it look like we plan that. And she's like,

Lexi says to Sierra, I don't think you were doing that. I think he was doing that. And that's my whole thing about the whole reunion. All of this energy that's being used to disregard gaslight and shit on Lexi, pointed at Jesse. He's the fucking problem. And you guys are giving him a pass.

That's what I don't understand, too, because Sierra just had this entire soliloquy about bad dudes, guys that she starts dating, guys that are in her life that treat her like shit and put her in bad situations and then she feels even worse. What do you mean is Jesse brought you in, flirted with you, had a girl in the house that he was dating who now hates you and doesn't trust you. That's not because Lexi did anything. It's because Jesse did something. So where's that energy that you were just talking?

about that you have for a guy like Austin that you have for a guy like Luke that you have for any other guy on Bravo like West that you've dated or anybody that you've talked to that you're now saying I've got all this bad energy from them and I'm keeping them out of my lives and yet you're openly now flirting with Jesse across the room what is that energy it's like how it's unbelievable like the tone deafness is crazy but just to support Lexi a little bit more Sierra's big bombshell was like why would I go to your party you said that you didn't trust me. Lexi clarifies, no, no. I said that he, the problematic individual across the room said so many mean things about you that he made me not trust you. He made me not

trust you. Not I don't trust you because of you. I don't trust you because the dude that you're defending painted a picture that you were a piece of shit. So I don't trust you. Like by the way, how do you take that and not be like, oh, fuck you, Jesse. I'm sorry, but like in any situation, And if you're dating somebody and you have this other person, this third person that you've seen a bunch of times that you're not friends with, but you know when you're away, they're flirting openly, why would you trust that person? Like, why should Lexi trust Sierra? But even in that moment, she didn't say that.

No, and look, that's where I'm like, yeah, no, Lexi's right to not trust you. You're doing it again. You're flirting with him across the room right here with no regard. Andy said it a couple of times. He was like, yeah, you know, you guys are all having a great time. let's move to the next topic because Lexi's over there she's not having a great time.

The only support she had in the room was silent support from Gabby who I appreciated being next to her and like giving her a shoulder to lean on. I was like this is fucking nuts to me. And again, Sierra's like you're trying to paint this picture. I'm like,

no, you guys are doing a damn good job of that yourself. We're just watching how you guys interact your complete disregard for the fact that you were in a similar spot last year with West. And now we're watching you shit on Lexi who didn't do this jesse did but you're defending him

to the ends of the earth because you think that like it painted you in some kind of light which again you could throw that back on jesse for putting you in that spot but instead we're going to drag lexie it made no sense to me i felt so bad for her i'm on your side she's not my favorite but like i don't really i don't really like her but she i felt so bad for her she was one on everybody we talked about jesse's mentality with all of this the whole season pretty much we we theorized that he had gotten away with this his entire life he had gotten away with talking a girl leading them on love bombing and then moving on and then acting like nothing was his fault because there were no cameras there were cameras this time he's still

getting away with it like he at this point now we're only going to be talking about lexie versus sierra jesse's out of it they're going to be talking about him as if he's not in the room he doesn't have to address any of it he'll step in you know who he's going to step in to defend to Sierra. He's not going to step in to defend Lexi. If he had any sort of respect for Lexi at this point, and he wasn't probably spinning it in his head to be like, I'm always been the good guy and she was crazy. If he had respect for his ex, he would step in and be like, no, no, no, enough. Like, we're not going back to doing all of this. I'm friends with Sierra. I have respect for my ex. You guys can stop. Like, it's just too much. I don't want to deal with it. He's not going to

do that. So it's just not going to happen. But it's just insane to me that that is pretty much what we saw i mean we knew it he's getting away with it we saw yeah it's just nuts because it doesn't seem that hard to grasp for me watching at home i'm like this is so obvious and yet you're all laughing it off oh that's just jesse ha ha ha if this happened to amanda page or sierra if this even happened to daniel or if it happened to lindsay everyone would be a fucking disaster meltdown and they would be attacking whoever was at fault. But instead, the guy that's at fault is getting a pass. And the girl that went through a horrible summer, she's getting dragged. Make that make sense to me. It makes no sense. I was so confused. Such a good opportunity because we gave them,

we gave the cast so many opportunities all summer to step up, do what's right. You guys watch that whole weekend, him flirting with Sierra, him getting his toe sucked. You guys had every opportunity to step in and be like, well, this isn't right. There's something wrong with this. Let's try to figure the opposite you kind of did it here and there page had a conversation you know page gets a point here or there the rest of you really don't get anything you could have come into this reunion and done something completely different i didn't expect it to be this bad i thought it would have been a difference i thought it would have been like all right yeah we're kind of over this we had to deal with it all summer we really have to deal with it again not everybody's just let

lexy and jesse and jesse just dish it out and we'll see where everybody lies afterwards but you know obviously we're still going to be team jesse because they do like him more i didn't think that they were going to get actively involved in just openly mocking her like that and then it's just it's tough it is and then the weird part is I'm looking on on social media just to see like you know the reactions from people so many people are defending Sierra like for speaking her truth and this that I'm like she's allowed to speak her truth but point it in the right direction Lexi wasn't the one talking shit Jesse was too Lexi yep what's going on I'm so Sierra was complicit like I'm the fucking

coddling us here. We watched the scenes, dude. We watched the scenes where she flirted back. We started the season two. It was worse. Like this is, I'm sorry, but like this is worse. She again, let another Bravo guy manipulate her into a situation. And she's defending him. She's not a girl's girl. She's not helping people out. And the people online still defending is crazy. Like I would get it if you're sitting online saying, you know, this was kind of weird. It was kind of boring. I don't really like it. There was only one thing that happened all summer. If you said it was a bad season, then that's fine, but to actively go on there and say, you know, Sierra's not even friends with her. Like, why would she have to worry about potentially cheating?

It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, that's what a crazy rationalization. Willingly flirt with somebody out in the open in a shared house in the Hamptons all summer. When you know that they're dating is just, it's almost as bad as Jesse doing it. It's fucking mean. Why do we bend the rules for people because we like someone? I'm like that's the problem too. It's like we flip flop all the time and people call flip floppers.

We can flip flop whatever the fuck we want. But we call it out. If we see something stupid, we're going to say, well, that was fucking insane. That sucks. You're a bad person. You better figure this out and try to come clean. Nope. Okay.

We're not going to like stick behind somebody just because we like them. Like, I don't care if you like Paige Sierra, Amanda. You love the bed bugs. You love this and that whatever. Their treatment of Lexi is inexcusable. It was weird. It's just weird. I thought I was watching a different show.

It's not fun television. It's not fun television. I felt icky watching it. Yeah, everybody gang up on Lexi was not great. And when she makes a valid point, let's laugh at her and dismiss it. Yeah.

Fun. Jesse made a joke again, guys. Oh, that's who he is. He just jokes around a lot. Lexi doesn't understand it. No, he was a dick to her the entire summer,

and now we're defending it. That's cool. Yep. That's cool. Let's get to some questions. See how our audiences. If I know our audience, I think that they're going to be on our

side of things. Yep, there you go. First one from Joseth. Joseph. Oh, that's a tough one. Josie Thibbert. Sure. I'm going to say, it's Jocelyn Thibbert. Okay, cool. Why does Bravo glorify these shitty men? Can't just say you're joking and make it all better. It's like, yeah. Not only Bravo. Not only the fans, but the people on the show do it. I don't know, dude what the this kind of stuff i what is this from zoe could the play does lexie expect us to believe her birthday was the same day as and time as the sierra and jesse brunch it was that's that's verified yeah i think it was it was the same thing is while all of this is going on and while we're watching the fallout of jesse and lexie on our screens who's posting the most together i'm not

seeing Carl and Kyle hanging out all the time. Now I'm seeing Kyle and West hanging out, which is fucking awesome. It looks so much fun. But I'm watching Jesse and Sierra hang out all the time. They're going all these concerts together. And yeah, you know, we didn't plan on it. We just have the exact same sponsors and the exact same

schedule and we flew in together. But like, boy, was I surprised to see her there? Like, shut up. No one believes. Nobody should believe that I guess idiots do. That's nuts, dude. From Kay Stokes, the reunion left the bad taste to my mouth. I don't even like Lexi, but how they treated her.

Ouch. Yes. That's exactly how we feel. And there's multiple about Toagate from I'm Chloe Bell. Do you think the cast was taking Toagate too lightly as Lexi sat. They're scowling, absolutely. Because they're thinking that it was a joke. And Lexi didn't think it was a joke.

And you guys should fucking support her a little bit. This one here from Figgy. Why did the girls minus Gabby laugh so much when Jesse was explaining Toagate? Because they don't like Lexi. It's as simple as that. I know a lot of people are asking why. are we still talking about Sierra and West? I think we talked about that enough.

We tried to come to some sort of answer. I think we actually did find an answer somewhere in there. I think we got enough out of it, yeah. This is interesting. This is, it's kind of just goes towards, like, my fucking, uh, my revolution here. But from Kay Sparklic, did Sierra gaslight us about West not being there for her? Maybe. Maybe she did.

I don't fucking know anymore. She's not that great of a person, guys. Like, stop glorifying these people. but like maybe i don't know who knows maybe west here let's spin this one this will be fun for me i'm not taking part in this one this is you're dying on this hill alone sierra is actually the one who stopped talking to west west was trying to figure it out she went to costa rica for two weeks he got his heart broke and he felt like he was ghosted and he went and did media maybe that's what happened i i'm not co-sounding that you can you can take that one yourself um oh god yeah he has to

all these people that are just like blindly following sierra i'll let you do it from brie polo lexie's sitting there while everyone laughed at jesse's lame jokes was hard to watch i think yeah i knew our audience would be cool you guys are the best that's it's all you watch it the same way we did it was weird it was unsc oh yeah here you go on one more from k lookerwoods honestly is sierra giving dismissive hubs season six vibes towards lexie yes a thousand percent that's exactly what she's doing And she went on a full media rant about Lindsay. So what the fuck do you want Lexi to do? She's doing the same thing you did.

But not. She's not going out there and she's really not. She's pointing everything back to Jess. There were certain things. She did like, I would say about six to six too many interviews. She did a lot of interviews. I've said this before. But you know what?

If you did like one or two and there were a couple of comments in there about Sierra and you were led to it, I would actually be fully on Lexi side. I'd be like, come on. like get off like i don't like that i don't really care for her but like enough it's just weird dude it was a weird thing to watch transpire and not one person other than gabby who doesn't really have a voice there anyway yeah and she's the only one that's supporting yeah it's like this doesn't even seem like a hard one to be on the right side of history and yet the entire cast minus kyle and gabby are wrong exactly never thought i'd say that be neither but yeah i don't even

know what to expect an episode too really i guess carl and lindsay and then the end of this and then maybe this escalates into like an argument between sierra and lexie but could escalate in the beginning of the next episode then we probably pivot to yeah carl and lindsay amanda and kyle a little bit and then we get back to page and craig probably it was strange it was strange that's why i opened with what i did i was like this is fucking weird it is very weird oh boy but yeah I don't know. We'll see what we got next week, but that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show, bros. I've got to go.

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