Bros & Shows - THE OFFICAL ROAST OF RHOC (RHOC Full Recap)

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

What's up Bros? We've had it. This show has gone on for far too long. This episode highlighted everything wrong with this season/ franchise. People digging up old story lines, false accusations, rehashing old fights, uninteresting people getting the spotlight. It was a masterclass of bad housewifery. They continue their trip in Amsterdam and what should've been a 42 minute episode, felt like 42 hours. But we digress, since you all force us to keep watching this show while you have quit watching yourselves... Do us a solid and listen to us rip it aprt! (Love youse so much) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I've had it. I'm done. I can't. I don't know if I'm going to make it. I don't think I'm going to be able to get to the reunion at this point. This is unequivocally the worst episode of Housewives I've ever watched. It's terrible. It's just terrible.

I don't know what more to say. There's no entertainment. Like, what am I supposed to be entertained by? Like, it's a real question. It's a very simple question. Where is the entertainment value in this show? Because I can't find it. Boos and shows, I got to have me my bros and shows.

Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only. I won't even disparage his name by calling him Rosi Magoutz. It's Shooter Magouter. What's up, dude?

That brings me to a very important point. I was doing some very deep thinking the other day. When we look at Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, it's Frostlick. When we look at Atlanta, it's Real Housewives of Atlanta, Roa. When it's OC, why is it RHOC? Shouldn't it be RHOOC, Rook? Of Orange County. Oh, that's a good point.

Wow. How did I miss that? For everything. Yeah. And for whatever reason, everybody uses just one O for Orange County. It's wrong. It's just wrong. It should be rook.

Well, maybe that's where all the issues therein lie. Yeah. We're getting out of the gate wrong. Yeah. We set the wrong foot forward right away. Although I will say I have been watching. I know you've been doing this too because there's a, what is there a channel or something on your TV that just like plays old bravo.

Oh, yeah. Like Samsung, when you buy a Samsung TV, you get like Samsung plus TV and it's just like it's actually as far as I have that too. Yeah. If you go through the guide. Like, you can find some of your favorite older shows and it just runs them 24-7 on repeat. But it changes randomly. And somehow it landed on the Bravo vault and it just reruns Old Housewives episodes all day, every single day.

What else have we gotten stuck on? We got stuck on Baywatch for a while, which was really funny. Like Peaked David Hasselhoff. I came into my house one day. Just wake up rigged up. Because of the Hoff. Yeah, dude. I walked in.

I'm not even talking about Pam Anderson. No, straight up hoff. Sweety Hoff was a great hoff. But I walked in from the gym one day and I didn't know that it got stuck on the Baywatch channel. And it was just slow-mo hoff running down the beach. I was like, hell yeah, brother. Yeah.

Now I need two showers. One hot, one cold. No, but my girlfriend's been rewatching a lot of OC. And she's in like, I want to say season eight or nine. They're in Bali right now. The show is good, and it's got Tamara, Vicky, Shannon, Heather, and, you know, a couple of nobodies, but whatever. Alexis was on at the season prior. So was Gretcher's.

But it's just, it's a good show. And it's so funny to watch, too, because it's all the same people, it's all the same voices, but the content is so much better. So this show was good at one point. So I don't want to say they started off on the wrong foot because they used the wrong acronym. Wherever the hell we are now is just utter garbage. There's nothing. I mean, I at one point during this episode said, I would prefer it and I know that like there wouldn't be any of the usual housewife drama, just get them all high, make them all eat

mushrooms, make them all smoke weed, and they'll be at least somewhat more enjoyable. It wouldn't go on for very long. But if you give me like a five episode stretch every season to like kind of like knock me unconscious while Shannon's just high as balls walking through Amsterdam, fine. I'd rather do that than have to deal with whatever kind of manufactured nonsense they're coming up with. And that's all this episode was. They're just talking about manufactured nonsense. Well, let's see. Jen, if you were going to go to Alexis's wedding, what would you wear? And would that piss Shannon off? Who the fuck cares? Who the fuck cares? This is so stupid at this point.

And I'm just watching Tamara in the background, basically like poking her with a stick, do something. And you're my last ditch effort here, Tamara. Do something. I need you to try to spark something because whatever the hell's going on right now, it's, it's just trash. It's fucking crazy to watch. It's, I don't know why we have to sit through this week to week. I don't know why it's gotten to this point. I don't know what this show is anymore. As I'm watching it, it has legitimately become everybody questioning why people are friends with people,

why they're not friends with people, why they should be friends with people, and why they shouldn't be friends with people through the lens of the two most boring housewives on any franchise jina and emily we keep checking in with them to get the temperature of the group and nobody wants to hear what they have to say because they are also the two that are behind all of this manufactured bullshit that we truly don't care about you're picking and choosing potential drama based on how you feel about it or that you heard something one time like oh i heard that jen and shannon are becoming friends now let's try to throw a to that maybe because I don't have a storyline. I'm not interesting. All I can do is default

about Travis's balls. And on Emily's side, all I can do is bring up my kids when I tell everyone else not to talk about kids. And then I can bring up how my husband doesn't like me. Cool. No. Okay, I'm going to go throw some shade over here and see if it works with Gretchen and Tamara. And then I'm going to psychoanalyze Gretchen because she's acting too much like Tamara. And we have a problem with her acting too much like Tamara, but we don't have a problem with Tamara acting like Tamara, only when someone else tries to act like Tamara. So I'm going to go put her through the ringer, but meanwhile, Tamara's going to get off Scott Free because now it's Gretchen's fault entirely because I hate everybody and I just want to be up Tamara's ass. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.

The only good thing that happens by good, I mean it very loosely, it's kind of funny, was Shannon drinking while driving a boat. Can't be the best look for somebody who just got a DUI last year. When you crash it into a fucking boat, I was like, are we, like, I try to defend you through. It was funny. That part was funny to me. Oh, no, it was. It was dark funny where it's like, okay, that shouldn't be happening, but it's still funny as shit that just happened.

The rest of it, I just don't care. And I'm so over everybody on this show at this point. I mean, I don't know what to do. We've had the discussion pretty much every season of where do we go from here. I just don't care anymore. Like, how I don't understand. It's worse than love the last season of Jersey. Jersey was. Like, that's where we've gotten to. The last season of Jersey, which everybody

raised an eyebrow to, then it got put on pause. How is it not happening over here? This is utter garbage. It's just terrible content. This is worse than two years ago, Rossi. And that was the hardest watch we've ever been through. Yeah. This tops that because at least then this might be worse than Beverly Hills that year with Diana Jenkins. It might be. I think it is. I think it is honest. At least we had Asher serenating us at one point. We had reprieves. This is. literally just okay what can we try to talk about now what can we try to talk about now what can we try to talk about now none of it's interesting no none of you are interesting i great it was a great show once upon a time it is no longer that and because of our beautiful amazing audience who we love so much who doesn't

make us sit through this it's ruining my mental health it really is the best though because nobody like every time we put out questions for this, half of them are, yeah, we're not watching anymore. Me and my husband decided to stop watching me and my friends are, or haven't watched in a while, whatever it might be. We're just using you guys as an outfit. Just so we have an idea of what happened, we'll just listen to you guys. And we love you guys. It's like, okay, thanks. Do you really, though? Do you? Like, I don't know. It's almost like our listeners are God and their God is giving us the toughest battles because they think that we're the toughest soldiers, but we're really not.

Oh, okay. We're broken. Yeah, we're broken at this point. Dun been broke. Yeah, you know, done been broke. Done been broke. I can't do it anymore. I will.

You want to recap this crap or? Yeah, I guess we should like start at this point. Sure. I mean, I can summarize the whole episode in like three sentences, but I guess, you know, we'll try. We'll fucking, we'll give the old college try. I never graduated college, but I'll give you about as, much effort as I put into that.

Okay, let's get started. What was that? Not really. I went to, you know, I went to school. I went to school. No, I know your history. There was no intent of education. Anyway, let's do this.

And as always, and I promise you this every week, we will give our full attention to this. We do it the right way, regardless of how we feel about the show. So don't worry. That's the thing that you never have to question. Because if you just listen to the first seven minutes of this podcast, you know how aggravated we are. That means that we watched it. That means that we didn't just skip through it. We actually sat there and paid attention the whole time.

And that's the worst part. So thanks. Notes. I have notes on this trash. Yeah, that's actually, that's worse than what I do. Do you know how many times I wrote in here? Let me see. One, two, three.

So here you go. This fucking stinks. What the fuck is this? this. This is awful. Unwatchable, fuck off. I just ended it with this is awful. I love that your notebook is like your actual outlet, whether it's you're writing things in that you're actually feeling in the moment,

or if you get pissed off enough, you throw the notebook. Like without that notebook, I think we'd be in a lot of trouble. Well, yeah, there'd be holes in walls. The general. I'd be hulking out on my street. All right. Let me lock in. Okay. Shannon's stoned. That's how we started off. And look, it happens. You know, you get the residual edible effect the next day. You're still a little groggy. I guess she's funny. That, again, the wacky shan. It's funny last week. I'm not funny. Are you over it? Yeah. Yeah, me too. I've been over it. I'm on my page now.

But let's get to the lobby with the ladies. And we're headed out to the tulip field. Shannon again is just. there's no real other way to put it she's a toddler she's in the lobby barefoot she's like asking for band-aids and all this other stuff the only hope i had for this episode and i was like oh this could get fun as heather breaks out shrooms i'm like great just like you said if we're at this point now let's just get everyone stoned just get stoned i just i love heather's disposition she's just in a different country we're in amsterdam i'm going to get It's stoned one day. I've got shrooms the next day.

People are partaking. Gina was, just like Emily said, incredibly annoying. She wouldn't shut up. And it actually was a detriment to the whole show because this is where a lot of that started when she just starts rambling about Alexis and Shannon and what's going on there and how Jen's involved. Like, shut up. It has nothing to do with you.

And you are not the bringer of news. It's not your role on this show. I don't know what your role is on this show, but it's certainly not that. No, we've yet to know what it is. it's definitely not the bringer of things. That we do know. It's just to bring like the median salary back down. Ooh, sick burn.

I wish I had a burn thing on our. A bird work. Oh. Like a sizzle. We should get a burn book for housewives. Just write like nasty things about them. And then if it ever gets out, people won't like us. That's the fall of the bros.

The burn book got out. The brown. I'd bedazzled the shit out of that thing. Oh, that thing would be so shiny. You couldn't look directly at it. So we hop on the Sprinter van and I want your take on this.

I understand what she was trying to say, but then also knowing that her man is Ryan, we're talking Spanx because you know, Shannon's a big Spanx advocate. And Jen's like, well, what if you're at the bar? And, you know, everything's like so, like, tucked in and, like, you meet a guy and he tries to grab your ass. That's not hot.

And I was like, okay, I know what you're saying. like, you know, you're flirting with a guy or getting a little touchy-feely. And then, but in my head, I'm like, did Ryan just walk up to you and like smack you on the ass? And you're like, ooh, yeah, I mean, yes, which time when they first met also when they first met, yes. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, probably yes. I do love the trying to mentally prepare yourself for what Shannon's doing. Like when Shannon's out, she's not standing at a bar.

Like, you're kind of putting Shannon in the shoes of a 25-year-old who's at the bar like with all of her friends trying to like fresh in the bar yeah fresh in the bar it's not what chadden's doing i mean she's at the bar but she's probably sitting somewhere she's not meeting guys that are going to grab her ass and if she was she would probably be highly alarmed so i do know what you're trying to do but putting shadden in that situation is very puzzling it was just funny like the the image of my head was literally like the first time she met ryan and he just walked up and smacked her ass and it was like my head hardy jacket weird i mean i don't know i don't know i don't know one next week and I'll smack in the ass and see what it feels like.

Do you hear me a spank spank, spank? Yeah, we got to do the smack bank. Hey, oh, no, I actually don't co-sign that one. Let's keep going. On one spinner van, we're talking about Gretchen at the bar. And this is Tamara, Gina, and Emily. And Tamara leads off, and she's like, you know, why did she even come to me? She was such a downer last night.

Here's my issue. Obviously, Tamara's going to pick at her because, they're going out of each other. I get that. Emily and Gina want to portray themselves as the advocate for everyone. They're the arbiter of truth. They're going to sit between these two and figure things out.

I hear you, Gretchen. You know, you are falling a little bit down this path, but I do like you. I hear you. I know Tamara. I know you're going through hard things. We're now we're going to get through it. The difference is when you're talking to Gretchen, you don't fully shit on Tamara, but you're not team Tamara. When you talk to Tamara,

now you're just shitting on Gretchen. Now Gretchen is the only issue in this back and forth that we've been seeing all season. And the way that they're talking about her here, it's like, you know, she's like creeps around you, Tamara. Like she's just so obsessed with it. It's like, what? How did we take this sharp of a turn? Why are you two such losers that any time you have a chance to, to get in Tamara's good graces

or get a leg up somewhere with the cool kids, you do this shit. It's so contradictory. It's very contradictory. And again, they shouldn't be the people that are media. any of this, and they continue to mediate it, even through this whole episode. Gretchen has hit a new low. The walking over to Tamara with Slade at the bar was, I think, the last straw. That was.

Since then, she has realized her self-worth. She's realized what she's going to bring to the show, probably the fact that she won't be asked back on the show, and that's why she's at a new low. That's really all it is. She's not upset because her and Tamara aren't going to have a good relationship moving forward. You've been mad at this woman for 12 years. Who gives a fuck? You don't really care about that.

you're just realizing that reality is setting in you're not going to have a job and your whole comeback is a flop that's all it is you don't know what to do you're on an island of your own making by yourself no one's coming to give you any aid everybody's staying far away like you've got the plague and now she feels alone and now she's in amsterdam and she knows what's coming for and that's all it is we knew what was going to happen the tide was going to turn people were end up going back to tamra of course they were going to do that it lasted what an episode and a half that we actually thought maybe there would be some sort of a level playing field. No, it's not going to work. Emily and Gina are always going to go back to Tamara because they're afraid of Tamara. I mean, they said it so many times themselves. Gretchen just, like, what do you want us to do, feel bad for you? Like, even the women in the group, they're not going to feel bad for you. They don't give a fuck.

No, and we don't care either. I think the other realization that she's coming to, just based on what's starting to come out on the show. And we've obviously seen this stuff a lot in the interim. between them filming and then this now i would imagine that she's starting to realize like oh fuck some of those horrendous horrible hateful posts that i like i think they're they think they found him because i bet you somebody somebody somebody maybe they liked their comment or did something to let her know like hey we see you dumbass we see you on socials so i think that's part of it i think she is recognizing like you said i think that's a massive part of it as well wow i

totally failed. And on top of that, looking around and it's like, you really didn't make any friends again. Like you're kind of out on your own. And especially with Gina and Emily leading the charge now, like you're never going to get back in here. You're never going to get a foot back in the door because now they're just going to throw stones because they don't have their own storyline and they're going to use you to try to be interesting. Or they're going to use Jen. And why Jen is catching a stray here makes no sense to me either because then they're going to advocate for later. But they're like, Like, you know, Jen is just whoever anyone needs her to be or tells her to be. It's like, or she's nice.

Yeah, she's a little agreeable, a little too agreeable sometimes. But she's also just nice and somewhat normal. She's nice and she wants friends. That's the whole thing where we've seen a lot of different housewife shows. We usually do question if they're friends in real life. Some of them are actually friends in real life and those actually tend to be the best shows. On a show like this, it's not really how it is. they don't really hang out a whole lot they may be used to at some point but jen just wants friends

she wants people to like her she had a hard let's say season and a half there where tamar was really going after her and now she's just kind of like falling back and she feels like wow i'm in a good place now let me make some friends it's not going to work on this show that's all we're seeing right now like you said she's just very nice i do remember when honestly going further back when the announcement that gretchen was going to be on the show and we're like wow this is going to be great. She's going to go after Tamara. At least now Jen's going to have a buddy out there. Obviously, it didn't turn out exactly how we thought it was, but it was very wishful thinking. But I also remember when all these things came out because almost every Bravo

blogger, every Bravo personality was talking about it. It was screenshot everywhere. So you're right. I'm guaranteeing that she saw that on Instagram, whether it was some sort of Bravo blogger that maybe I don't know, maybe someone was talking to, maybe somebody named Katie. And then she figured it out, oh, shit, this is going to drop. And if I'm seeing, this, Tamara's going to see it. And this is really bad timing for me because I'm stuck in Europe with them. Yeah, it is. And you should have done it in the first place. And here you are. If you're in a bed of your own making, what are you going to do? Exactly. Now streaming on Paramount Plus, it's the epic return of mayor of Kingstown.

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this. Shannon and Jen have talked about this. Shannon and Jen have talked about the Alexis Bellino friendship and how it pertains to Shannon. This is no one else's fucking business. This has been addressed. And on top of that, Alexis is off the show. We don't fucking care. We could not care less. And if you're going to look at it from a where are they now standpoint or where are they on the show timeline standpoint, Shannon just threw a party for Jen. They're fine. And they have addressed the Alexis of it all. We don't need Gina and we don't need Emily trying to stick their nose in this and stir up some nonsense. Because even if it lands- It's a hammer move. That's the The weird thing is this is such a Tamara move, and if Tamara did it, yeah, it would make a lot more sense.

But the fact that Gina and Emily are the ones that are perpetuating this makes zero sense to me. They're just trying to do something with the little amount of time that they have left this season. I guess that's what they're doing. I don't really know for sure. I never really know what they're doing. But it just doesn't fucking matter. And it's weird, too. It's almost like a little bit of a revisionist history because I tend to recall the two of them being Shannon and Jen sitting down.

explaining that Jen does still talk to Alexis, but they're not that close. And that's the truth. And that's what we get to. Shannon, of course, remembers it differently. And then when we see a little clip from last week,

it's different. It doesn't mention the fact that they talk. It's, oh, yeah, we're not really that close. And no, I'm not going to go to the wedding. Which, again,

who the fuck cares? Like, it's semantics at this point. But Shannon cares at this point. And that's what really pisses me off here is that Shannon last week said, I'm not going to dictate who's friends with who. But yeah, I'm going to feel some type of way if you're going to be friends

and somebody that did all of those things to me. We agreed. That makes sense to us. Fine. Let's move forward. This week, it's way more of a, I didn't know that you were friends with her. I didn't know that you guys were sitting down and talking

and you guys are close. What does that mean? Well, I'm not going to be friends with you anymore. Like, Shannon, just fucking be consistent. We don't need this. This is going to ruin everything. And there's nothing left to ruin. But it's going to make it even worse.

Well, I think that that comes from, if you look at Shannon and who she is and how she operates, It's if there's outside pressure or if people are talking about something, she's going to address it in an attempt to not look dumb. So they're all talking about this shit again, acting like it's a problem. You know, so she hears Gina and Emily going on about it. She hears Tamara speaking up about it. She hears Heather talking about. So now she's like, well, if they're all pissed or if they're saying it's a thing, like maybe it is a thing.

You know what? I didn't know you guys are that close. It's almost like it riles her back up and then she forgets that you guys did this. Yeah, it's either that or now she's worried about her credibility when she's holding firm with those boundaries with Tamara. Like, oh, I guess they could get to a point where they say you're letting Jen get back in, even though she's friends with Alexis, but you won't give Tamara a shot, which, by the way, that is exactly what they would do. And I'm very happy that they're probably not going to do that. But yeah, it's almost like that to me where it makes sense that she's going to do this and take a stand now because is your friendship with Jen really worth it in the long run? probably not who the fuck cares but is it worth it to double down and make sure that tamar

can't get closer and use this as some sort of ammunition yeah probably yeah i think that that's probably more it that's a good point let's get on to the tulip fields shannon being wacky again sits on some blush can't take her anywhere crazy kid brother and gina yep yeah yeah hether and gina are tripping balls uh which probably would be a good time out there in those two of them I'm sure that would be awesome in the total field, yeah. I'm sure they really enjoyed themselves there. What actually happened through this?

Oh, here we go. Yeah, there you go. I know. Because, again, this is just more to my point earlier. A few of the ladies are riding the horse. You get Shannon up on the horse, and then you get Gretchen and she, or sorry, Gretcher's. And she's like riding Tamara, essentially. She's the, what do you call that?

I know the, whatever. She's the equestrian. and then you get Jen just kind of they're having fun they're just goofing they're just whatever and of course not on my watch let's go over to the social commentators over here we get Gina and Emily it's like oh look at that it's like riding into the I hate Tamara clubhouse right guys mm-hmm don't trust Jen with the finance shut up why are you doing this why are you suddenly negating every single thing Tamara's done it's so frustrating. It's like they literally are getting on these women and trying to put them down behind

their backs. They don't have the balls to do it in front of them, but trying to put them down because they don't like Tamara. Why don't they like Tamara? She's done a list of horrible things to them. That makes sense why they don't like Tamara. We've acknowledged that that's going on because we're comparing Gretchen to Tamara. But let's not get on Tamara to change her behavior. Let's just not act like, or not let Gretchen act like Tamer. What the fuck? Honestly. That is such bad TV. That's bad everything. That's a miserable approach to try to drum up some drama.

And it's even more frustrating on a show where we desperately need fun. The one episode you enjoyed, I still didn't like it. But the one that you enjoyed was last week. And it's because they had a good time at least. Are we really going to shit on anybody laughing now? Like, oh, look at this group, smiling. Fuck that. What are we doing?

That's pretty much what it was. And this was the downfall immediately because I, was really hoping that we were going to get another episode like last week, which was nothing. And it was just a filler episode. I was really hoping it was just filler episodes for the rest of the season at this point. As soon as they had that conversation, I'm like, really, we're not going to let anybody have fun because you guys are upset with your own lives.

So you have to bring somebody else down. Why? Like, don't do that to the audience. We're watching this. We already have to sit there and watch it. Do you really need to make something out of nothing? Yes, of course they do. Yeah, they certainly

That's the worst part They think it's their job And it's not No, you're not those people You're not that guy, pal It just is what it is And then if that wasn't enough We should probably deliberate

About Alexis's wedding more What do you guys think? Yeah, you're right Let's talk about that whole thing Which takes us to an entirely Different place Because Gina's like Well, you know

And for the record, everybody Somebody pointed out That my Long Island accent Sounds a little Fargo that's intentional with gina because somehow she talks like she's from north dakota or something so that's where that comes right is intentional but you had one line it was like a confessional or something later in this episode yeah it was so unbelievably like she maxed out her fargo north it was like it was like it was wild it was like i almost i honestly i thought i was just going to

like spit up on myself at that point it was yeah no i i almost wrote that one down and i just I just didn't want to rewind the TV. I didn't have it in me. But Gina is upset because she had a really tough year last year. And she defended Shannon. Oh, God forbid you defend your friend without expecting something in return. That would be wild. She's pissed off because Shannon threw a bridal shower, essentially, for Jen via a luncheon.

that makes sense that is a specific date although they don't know the actual date but it's a specific event that we are celebrating she's pissed because her and Travis went through it and they got back together and the families are back together and Shannon didn't have a party for that the fuck what do you mean that's not the same thing no sense it truly makes no sense and honestly when Gina said she had a tough year last year I didn't remember what the fuck she was talking about because I zero invested in Gina. But yeah, I guess, sure, you had a tough year last year, whatever. And you also tried to help Shannon.

But I do remember there were some circumstances in which you were not really helping Shannon and you were probably trying to play the bad cop because it felt like somebody needed to step in there or whatever. That's kind of what happens and it's part for the course. The fact that you're now jealous that she's doing this for Jen, again, I have to ask, do you want to be close to Shannon? Like, I don't get it. Like, why does it fucking matter? if Jen and Shannon are becoming friends.

Like, it's just, it feels threatened, it's territorial for some weird reason, and it just doesn't make any sense to me. It makes no sense. And the lack of a party for this makes no sense. Yeah. Not for, no, not to be this guy. Be that guy. Okay, I will be that guy.

You and Travis, this has been an ongoing debacle. And I'm thrilled that you guys figured it out and moved back in and the family's doing good. but this timeline that we've been on has been very wishy-washy you know you you broke up or didn't break up then he moved out but you guys are going to still try and date then you were you were concerned that you weren't going to be together now you're back together maybe we're going to see how things go maybe we're just going to wait and and see if you guys settle in i don't know what does you want a party for i don't know what's the celebration like you and travis do that you and Travis go to a nice dinner and have like a staycation in a nice hotel, go to a resort for the

weekend. I don't know. Go celebrate yourselves. That's a very different thing than a member of your group getting married. That's easy to celebrate. That's something people do celebrate. And I'm not saying that people shouldn't be happy for you. And if they do decide to throw a little shindig, that's up to them.

But you cannot get butt hurt because Shannon threw an event for Jen. They don't correlate. it's uh oh the frustration let's get to lunch gina again super stoned uh tripping a little bit on them shrooms emily's complaining as usual and the alexus wedding comes up at the table we're now reaching a point with gina specifically emily does it a little bit but not nearly as uh as forthcoming as gina is now we're just making shit up we're adding words to things we're we're changing the narrative entirely. She brings up the fact that Shannon told you not to go to the wedding and that's not right. Jen goes, no, she didn't. Shannon goes, no, I didn't. We at home go, no, she didn't. She said

exactly what we have all been talking about. She said that. Don't love that your friends are there, but I'm not going to tell you what to do, which should have been the end of it. Now we're rehashing it. And again, I do feel like Shannon feels the pressure from people bringing it up. Yeah, I think you're right. I'm supposed to be. And it's, I do think that she's just Uber, aware of what Tamara might use against her or Tamara's minions might use against her. So it's probably better. You know what? If you guys are going to make such a big deal about this and I make a special exemption

for Jen, you're going to hold it against me because I'm not allowing Tamara back into my life. So it's not really worth it. So it's a little bit of that too. I just, I don't really get it because it just sucks. And you know what it is? I keep trying to wrap my head around things because that's what we do here.

And we try to understand where people are coming from and what their motives are. I am so far past that point It just sucks These people all suck I don't care what their motives are anymore I've done trying to figure it out It's just stupid television That's all it is

And alas we must continue to try to decipher it And as they go through this discourse Of their friendship All of it makes a lot of sense to me Shannon speaks up and goes Well she did a lot of terrible things to me So yeah It makes me question some things

when you're getting close to. I didn't realize you guys were that close. So now that I learned that, makes me question some things. Makes me question my friendship with you a little bit. But that doesn't come out until someone has to change the questioning, Emily, and go, are you cool with her going to the wedding?

She's like, no, not really. Well, let's change it. Are you cool with her being friends with her? It's like, are we just going to dumb this down until we get a rise to somebody? Like,

what the, and Jen's over there literally verbatim saying to Gina, what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? Because she goes so far to say, well, and like she didn't even want that shower, Shannon. She said it was ridiculous. No, she didn't. She said that's not my thing, but it was really nice of her to do, which is fine.

I'm sure plenty of people that get parties thrown for them are like, eh, I don't love parties. I don't love being the center of attention. But hey, super sweet sentiment. The fact that she's trying to change the narrative and make it seem like Jen's shit talking Shannon to her, which she's not. She's really not. She's saying, I don't love celebrations. And I'm also worried I'm going to jinx my shit with Ryan, which is really the root of all of it. Yeah.

And now Gina's going off on a totally different tangent simply because she's jealous that she didn't get a celebration to the point that she says you're trying to foster this fake friendship. Why has this become the detective show about friendships? what are we so invested you know a show is bad okay i will sum it up you know a show is bad and i know we're shitting all over this i'm sorry guys just bear with me it was bound to happen at some point this yeah this is this was the one that boiled over when you have literally nothing to talk about because we have no storylines the only storyline we have is gretchen and tamra and then the fallout from that so they're trying to plug and play things like alexis like this wedding like this that the other when you've reached a point that all you can do is

on other people's relationships with the people you're sitting at the table with, it shows you visibly that there is no content, there's no subject matter, there's zero depth. And we are left with people flipping a coin as to who they're going to point their finger at next and try to make them uncomfortable or try to make them speak on a relationship that we already know about because there's nothing else. Yep. That's pretty much what's going on here. I don't know how else to put it. it's so dumb dude like emily saying like you know it just seems inauthentic this it's like they're trying to build this for why is it why who do you get to somebody turn to emily and

say your marriage seems inauthentic doesn't seem like you love your husband seems inauthentic to me why doesn't somebody turn and say why are you guys so interested in other people's relationships why don't you work on your own because that would be normal i want to go scorched earth at this point like just say something controversial at this point it'd be better than this It would be. Yep, but that's not enough fabricated bullshit. So on the fans, we're going to talk about Jen's Instagram because now she's monetizing it, which is great, good for her, she makes some extra cash.

She might not be great with finances, okay? Sure. And she might, admittedly, not be the most aware person on the planet. She is a grown-up. She is an adult that's actually gotten through some pretty hard shit, seems to be able to handle herself. What we don't need to do is sit on a van and, Comment on the fact that her Instagram features Ryan a lot.

And I don't want her to mess this thing up because of right. Taking pictures of your significant other does not forego your ownership of the account, Emily. What are we talking about here? This makes no fucking sense. He can't claim your Instagram. This entire segment was jealousy. And the only person that was talking on it that I don't think is jealous is Heather. Heather's making fun of Gretchen trying to show off the hat and sell it and use, you know, code Gretchen 20.

That's funny. That's okay for Heather to say the rest of them, I don't give a fuck what you guys think about this. You're just jealous. She's got a side hustle. She's making more money. It was funny when Gretchen said that she's a serial, serial entrepreneur. That doesn't sound right. And that doesn't sound very good.

But I understand the sentiment. And again, I don't really give a shit what Gretchen's doing. But she's making sure that she's at least got some sort of portfolio out there, where she's got different revenue streams. What are you guys doing? Emily, you're a lawyer, aren't you? Oh, you're non-practicing? What else are you doing?

Just complaining to your husband and then waiting for OC to start filming again? That's all I gather. So shut up. Nobody wants to buy any of the shit that you're wearing anyway because you dress horrendously. You look like a fucking idiot.

So what are we doing here? The whole thing pisses me off. Every time that she talks, I'm so dumb with her. I think I'm so pissed off that I have to do a fucking housewife swap episode with Emily. I, again, I might come into the studio in that episode and just say, I didn't watch a fucking look at this.

Go ahead. That's fine. I'll walk you through the whole thing. I'll hold your hand, pal. I would be remiss not to talk about the serial entrepreneur, though, that speaks how important it is that financial independence that also married. She learned it's been 20 years of Slade, so she probably has to figure out how to make her own money. Oh, no, no, no. Before that, she was married to like a 95-year-old man.

okay yeah and we know why so you don't get to then because the Lord said on a soapbox more than likely God told her to do that yeah that sounds it sounds about right but you don't get to be on a soapbox now

about serial entrepreneurship when your initial investment was into an old man that's different just saying I hate this show I hate this so much Shannon and Gina are talking because if we didn't

beat this dead horse enough yet let's kick it one more time she didn't want that that party she didn't want that fucking party of course not stop what even if she didn't why are you just trying to kick shannon now like that has to suck to hear like i put a lot of effort into this and she hated the whole thing just stop talking i don't know if it's the shrooms or just the inability to talk about anything interesting i don't know probably a combination of the two so let's get to the jealousy that Shannon and Jen are friends, and Shannon did something nice for her, like, out of the goodness of her own heart through her a party, she could never see her doing that for herself. So something's got to do.

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seen on here is the hot tub's in a canal, because you know that that water's going to get, the canal Water's coming in, okay? And sure, it's beautiful to boat on the canals and probably looks nice when you're having dinner near the canals. There's shit in there. There's poop. And that poop is in the hot water

now because Shannon's driving the boat into everything. Water's splashing everywhere. That's yucky. I don't want to watch them stew in poop water in Amsterdam. But let's make sure that we put Tamara and Gretchen in the same boat with Emily as the media. Sure.

that's going to work yeah that's what we have to do we really have to press this make sure that we get everything out of this it's gotten to the point with the two of them tamra's just kind of reflexive at this point like whatever you say i'm going to say something back which is how tamer is but she's not really putting any effort into it gretchen is done gretchen is over with it she's literally done she has nothing left she has nothing to say and at this point she feels like she apologized and all tamer's saying back to her and this goes on for the rest of the the fucking episode, is, well, we did bury the hatchet, and then you started it again. So once he started again, I'm going to respond.

That's all that happens. That summarizes, by the way, the last, like, half an hour of this episode. It's insane. Yeah, it truly does. And the other sticking point of this episode is Jen and Shannon. Yep. And this is what happens when you get two people that actually like each other, sit down and have a conversation about something they don't agree on.

It's very calm. Shannon, I thought that this friendship was not as serious as I didn't think you liked her as much as he did, which if you go back and watch the footage, it's because Jen did that intentionally. The thing she said makes it seem like they're not that tight and that the wedding was kind of a whatever. I'm not going. Yeah. Jen's response is, look, if you told me that being friends with her is hard for you, like, I'll listen to that. I get that. It's like, you guys have fucking done this already. And you're forced to do it again because of these idiots. And here. we go guys watch what they're saying watch this conversation everybody they're good despite you trying to throw a wrench into this friendship because you guys are losers they're fine so we did all of that in the beginning of this episode for nothing because i knew this was going to be how

they were going to handle it to the point that later on they're trying to do it again when they go to the mall food thing well but they're at the mall food thing and again they just squash this while they're sitting in the hot tubs they're dancing together and they're having a good time and it's actually nice to watch too because it's been a while since Shannon's had a good friend and Jen is being very nice to her and she's very receptive to it. Every one of those hating ass bitches was looking back and like what's going on there. Are they good? Are they good along? Are they really getting along? Are they just ignoring the problems that they have? You guys are the ones with the problems looking back because none of you have real friendships. Heather doesn't give a fuck. All of her

friends are back in Beverly Hills in L.A. You guys don't have any good friendships. You're just hating you're just literally up there watching them and they work through it like adults and you can't understand that because it's a foreign concept to you because you guys are fucking brain rotted at this point and it just isn't sitting with you right so you have to hate on it and they're going to do it again and that's the worst part yeah they're talking amongst themselves i guarantee you we're going to have to sit through a good 15 minute stretch in the reunion where we have to rehash it again and it's going to be brutal yep awesome let's keep going i guess we're going back to the boats because we have to talk about tamara and gretchen for a

second just to acknowledge it but there's not much to say because it's like you said gretchen's broken her spirit has been shattered and she's simply trying to get back to neutral the more and more we talk about it the more and more i do believe this is social media related and she's trying desperately to get to neutral with tamara or anybody else on the show because she's concerned she's worried about what's about to come out and that makes even more sense that she's incapable of going to dinner. She's, like, literally broken. That's why she was crying the whole time.

She was literally, she got back to the hotel. She's crying there. She's crying when Jen comes in. Everybody's wondering where they are. Jen comes out. She's like, yeah, Gretchen just needs a minute. She's crying. Again, Jen being nice.

She could have put her on blast. Anybody else on this show would have been like, yeah, Gretchen's having a real hard time right now. Looks like you got to her, Tamara. Looks like you guys are going to have to have a conversation. Instead, it's, you know what? She just needs a minute. She's really upset. Then we have to start shit talking to her.

But obviously she deserves it, so I don't really fucking care. But yeah, she's crying and it's funny, too, because I didn't put two and two together. And what I was coming up with was, uh, Gretchen is actually just a witch and she gets her powers from Slade. And when she's away from Slade for too long, she starts the will. That's what I would have brought that going. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would have been a perfectly fight explanation. I can't use it anymore because we explained what's going on.

Yeah, she knows that she's about to get rocked by the comment section and more. And I'm sure Andy's not thrilled either. I'm very curious if this comes up at the reunion what he has to say about it. She might not go to the re... Did she go? They just go to the last week. I don't know, but I could see her foregoing it over this

specifically, especially if you want to go toe to toe with Andy about it. I can't imagine he's going to go lightly on her. Yeah. But the craziest part of watching this, and we've talked about it ad nauseum already, but Emily's trying... It's so fucking annoying. She's trying to get...

Gretchen to understand that you have to take accountability and that you've perpetuated things and you dug things up and you're making things bad. You're sitting next to Tamara and you have no smoke for her. You're literally talking to Gretchen about doing things that Tamara does and you're not okay with that, but because Tamara's Tamara, whatever, but Gretchen, we're going to hold you to a different standard. I'm going to continue to play mediator because I don't offer anything else. I'm not good at this either. But I'm going to hold you to the fire. She's a lawyer. She can do this. It's so crazy. She literally says, Gretchen's taking accountability. I hope she can continue to do so. It's

like, oh, yeah? What about Tamara? What are we doing? You guys lose all credibility. I mean, you didn't have any to begin with, but now it's so far gone that it's, it's making this show simply unwatchable. Like it's, it's really hard to go scene to scene and watching them in real time, try to manipulate this show, try to manipulate the audience into believing these stupid fucking plot lines that they're forcing at us when we've already watched other things happen. We've already watched Resolve and we've watched Tamara do these things that you're upset with Gretchen about for years so it's not landing you're making us you're making us think that you think we're fucking stupid and believe it or not we're not okay the bravo audience is not dumb and i don't

appreciate the implication that we are assholes let them know that made me feel better that wasn't even a rant that was just like a i'm exhausted at this point so let's get to tamara and Jen. You know, why not? Why not? And in a moment that somehow is seen as Tamara being concerned for Jen, I'm worried about you because she does another thing that Tamara's always done. Did you see this? And tries to go up with an excuse that Iheart sends her headlines, right? Yeah, sure. That's, that's bullshit. You dug this off. It's at best, it's somebody that works for you that you guys hired, that you pay minimum wage that has to do research and send to you and Teddy. That that's more than likely, though, the source of this. But it's the same shit that you've always done. Here's something about you on the internet. This one's kind of funny just because it seems like she's coming from a good place.

To the point that Jen's question, is this nice? No. No, no, it's not. No, it's not. But I do like Taver's ability to come at Jen, showing her the article like, oh, you know, what's going on here? Why don't you just explain it to me? It's like the only time that you ever let somebody explain is when you're trying to get more information to use against them in the future, which, you know, we've seen a million times. I do love her ability to do that.

I think it's incredibly funny. And everybody falls for it every time. Like the most that we ever get is like that with Jen and the confessional questioning if it's real or not. Is this genuine? Does she actually care about me? No. She absolutely doesn't. but I guess that's close enough.

You're at least questioning it. Maybe at some point, you know, in 50 years when Tamara's still haunting the television screens, somebody will probably call her out for it, but not in our lifetime. And for some reason, this is why I'm concerned about her Instagram, Emily. Yeah, good connection there, Emily. What? We know about this. We've known about this.

And again, she has to explain in a confessional during COVID. we got control rent for a little while and now we owe the back pay for that modified rent two seasons ago at this point bro about this whole time and you're going to Tamara brought this up in a malicious way two years ago now she's bringing it back up in a nice way so yeah no it's attempting to rehash jet that and then it all clicked like this is why we've been talking about jens finances for a couple of episodes again because i was wondering why they started to pop back up now i know tamara found this before the trip talked to emily about it. Emily's like, well, we need to bring that back up. That's how we got here. You're trying

to manufacture shit from years ago that we know about. And we don't care, by the way. She's doing something to fix it. She still has her business. They haven't foreclosed. They haven't gone bankrupt. So something's going fine. And they're aware that they owe $600,000. They're working on it somehow. Also, and this is the part that cracks me up, dude, because she's like, Tamara in a confessional so we got emily worried about her instagram because somehow by posting a picture of your significant other it gives them control of your instagram okay and then you got tamara to confession it's like this is why she should have gone to school and like gotten a job and not wasted her time with brine i'm sorry that all of you are jealous of jen and the fact that she's actually

happy with this dude and the fact that this dude willingly pays for all of her shit he has no problem with it. We've watched him talk to her about finances. She wants to try to stand on her own two feet. She's doing her best. But in the meantime, Ryan's got her covered. Ryan's got the kids covered. He's also doing it without complaining at all. So for you to say, I wish she'd gone to school or gotten a job is fucking so rude and so jealous that it's hard to listen to as we're watching Jen actually kind of figure her shit out. I obviously stumbled a little bit this season. And I don't know what's going on on social media with her. But the conversation that we see between Jen and Ryan when they flash back, when they're talking about what's going on,

Ryan's got a fucking handle on it. Jen, obviously doesn't really understand what's going on. But Ryan has a handle on it. And he's entirely correct as to what's going on. There's a new landlord. They're putting that into effect. They're making sure that they go back through the old contracts. You didn't get kicked out. She still has the same goddamn studio. If she was late on her rent, they probably have a payment plan set up. They probably have a new contract where she's got a fucking payment plan worked into the current agreement. She's not complaining about it.

We haven't seen Jen once this entire season, by the way, complain about money. She's been stressed out about the marriage. She's been stressed out about what the kids are going to think and how it's going to be different for life. About Dawson going into the Marines. Exactly. She's stressed out about normal things. And finances is usually one of those things.

And we haven't heard a peep about finances. So why this is now a major storyline is completely beyond me. And again, every single time that we bring up Ryan, we flashed to a scene with Ryan, and he's a supportive, good dude who looks like he has Jen's best interest. I don't know what we're doing anymore. I really don't. And I get like, yeah, you want to go back to last season of the season before where you're questioning Ryan's integrity?

Fine. I don't care. All that really matters is how he treats Jen, how he treats her kids. Seems like everything's going swimmingly. There's nothing there. Move on. Speaking of moving on, let's move on ourselves to this mall food court or whatever this place was. That's what's so sad because I hate this show so much.

I'm sure that the place they went to is probably awesome and has a lot of culinary options. Probably like a Redding Terminal Market in Amsterdam. I just assume it's dumb. Like, oh, this place probably sucks because why wouldn't it? I didn't get to go there. I'm pretty bummed. Oh, did you know what it is, though? Were you like, oh, yeah, that place?

Yeah, I think it's a place down by the museum district. where I didn't get to, like down by the Angkor museum. I think we need to have a bros trip to Europe. Yeah? Brod down overseas. I wonder if we could fill some small shows in Europe. Like, if we did, like, something in London or Paris or something, I think we could fill like a 50-person room.

Yeah. Why not? Could be fun. Hmm. All right, let's put that out in the ether. Maybe we'll get something good back. Maybe instead of doing the, maybe instead, of doing the finale next week,

we'll just do an entire episode where we talk about going places. I like that. Let's do that instead. That sounds a lot more fun. Mall dinner. Yeah, we're at mall dinner. Tamara's bugged because of Gretchen

and her overall demeanor. She's taking the fact that she's upset. So Tamara just assumes, okay, so she's automatically upset about me, probably. So she's pissed off. Gretchen and Slade FaceTime. I don't know who the fuck this dude is on the phone. It's not Slade.

He's like, just let the past go. Then you stop bringing it up, Dickhead. You stop vying to be on this show. That's one, obviously now in retrospect, that tells me that he knows what's going on. And they're just not talking about it. And also, again, they swung and missed. And now the two of them are trying to just figure out what to do. Here's what we're going to do.

We're going to lean on our faith. And we are just going to grovel. and act very sad and maybe people will be okay with us. It's not going to work. No, especially when you say my guardian angels are telling her, telling me, don't trust her. This fucking brand of Christianity that is running rampant, where you're allowed to be a piece of shit, you're allowed to like horrible, hateful posts online, and then Bible thump and pray, and you think that we don't see who you are, it's so fucking annoying that now I've

watch it every week on TV via Gretchen your guardian angels are telling you not to trust her what did they tell you when you like those posts because I can't imagine God is like oh yeah I fuck with that he probably wouldn't say fuck either um I don't know he she I don't know what God is they yeah I don't know I have no idea but I do know damn well based on the little I do know about the Bible which seems to be more than most Christians know about the Bible, is that Jesus liked the downtrodden and the oppressed, and he stood for them. He stood for minorities.

He did not go on Instagram and like horrible transphobic posts or homophobic posts. And you know what? For all of our listeners that don't have social media or aren't sure what she liked online, I'm going to go ahead and read, but the caption was of one of the posts that she liked, because it is pretty fucking awful. So, Gretchen liked this. I believe it was in August or prior 2025.

When you open the door to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia. You'll never win in normalizing perversion. Doesn't sound very godlike to me. No. No, it sounds pretty awful and atrocious. And for you to be on a program, on Bravo, which is an ally network saying shit like this,

I hope you get kicked off the fucking show because then you also go on to like about five or six other posts that all say similar things along the lines of comparing just being gay to being a pedophile. Multiple times she said that. Her boss is Andy Cohen, who is gay. A lot of her coworkers are gay across the bravoverse. So this is insane, and it makes so much more sense as you read the actual things that she's liking and posting and reposting and all of this. Why she's in this gutter that she's in right now, she's realizing the chickens are about to come home to roost and they are going to be led by Tamara because Tamara's been going around the group and showing people, look what she liked.

She shows Gina, look what she liked. Emily had seen it on her own, as we've seen the last scene from this because this all kind of wraps everything up. so you did something stupid and hateful because you're a stupid hateful person and now that it's coming back to haunt you and this is what happens every time with these people it's coming back to haunt you and now you're going to claim oh my god one praise the lord and two i'm not a bad person you're not upset that you did it you're upset that you got caught this is one of the rare instances in which one of the housewives looks at something and says are you sure that wasn't doctored. How often do we see posts online? Usually it's just hating another housewife

or liking a comment on something. They never say, is it doctored? That's how bad it is. That's how bad they realize that they're even questioning. Like, are you sure that's not talking? That has to be fake. That's pretty fucking awful if she's out there liking these posts. And no, it's not. And comments on them. Yeah. So it was, I remember it being such a whirlwind, obviously, the beginning of the season, we're like, yeah, maybe Gretchen will do something. By the end, we know. We know. We know they're in Amsterdam. We know that Katie didn't go to Amsterdam. We're like, what the fuck happened in the middle of the season? Then we find out that the Gretchen's doing this and they're still filming and we're like, oh, God, you got to be fucking kidding me. So we knew

going into this season that it was going to be trash. And it's worse than I thought. It is a hot steaming ball of dumpster fire. That's what we've got. Yep. With a, we got some pretty good I'm sure a couple of the questions are probably going to be, you know, what did Gretchen like, which we already addressed. Yeah, there you go. Now you can see her for who she truly is behind that Jesus veil she wears. This is a wild statement. Jesus Curtin.

This is a wild question from Carmelionaire. It's not even a question. I think Tamara and Slade should get together for the ultimate villain couple. I there's a place in hell for you car millionaire and I don't want to visit I will be there with you because I love that idea Tamara and Slade fuck it for this show I don't want that I don't want I can't do it can't do it oh man no no whoa I don't want to see it like for a season I'm saying do that in life and everything just fall apart yeah yeah that I'm cool with this is a introspective question from

Theran 25. Would we like Shannon's antics if the show was better? I think that them getting high in Amsterdam if the show was really good would be electric. It would be electric because like last week Steele and I obviously had opposing views but now I've come around because it's so bad.

It was a good filler episode for a good season. The season's trash so it wasn't a good filler episode. Them going out there like if you take the Salt Lake City women throw them in Amsterdam they get a little high, it would be electric it would be so much fun because the shit that they would come up with would be hilarious and they're also friends so there would actually be some good times instead it's

this show of course so uh i do think yes if we had a better show shannon's antics would probably be a lot better yep um Ryan stoman 83 who was more annoying Shannon or Gretchen Gretchen's word is not annoying um so I I don't know neither of them annoying she's just gross yeah gross and i you know what she is i'll tell you what she is she's pathetic yeah this was a pathetic display of woe is me something i did is going to come back and haunt me oh boohoo dumbass um this is funny bridget jay who would be your nightmare joint rotation from the group

this show this show is i wrote that in my notebook last week i wrote worst rotation ever yeah yeah heather would probably be fun to Heather would be hilarious. I would sit with Heather and Terry. Heather and Terry would be a blast. Yeah. Actually, honestly, if you did Heather, Terry, Jen, and Ryan, it would probably be a pretty funny blunt rotation.

Yeah, that's a good point. I'm going to read these in succession. Ali Moss, thanks for watching this trash, so I don't have to. Jamie Gibbs, how should we collectively celebrate the end of the season? It's sin. No questions. Bravo put us out of our misery. with this crap season uh pep with maria good god how long is this damn season two years um

yeah that's about it so there was a good four questions in there that you guys i'll tell you how to celebrate the end of this you can venmo us for yes directly oh that's great uh i'll do one more here from b man graham 0727 how do we get emily Gina off of our screens. What do I need to do? Be man, Graham, you need to write a very long, very illustrious letter. Email and just try to find people's emails on NBC. Andy at NBC Universal.

We've tried that one. Pretty much just type in any variation of a name that you may have seen. I don't care who you reach out to. DM people try to get this shit going in the right direction. I don't know what to do. That's the worst part is getting rid of Gina and Emily. It doesn't even really fix the problems. It just makes us feel a little bit.

better so I don't have to deal with them anymore it's not going to fix the show who are you going to put in they're just going to put in older people from the show that might be kind of fun for an episode or two until you realize oh yeah they don't have it and there's a reason that they're not on the show anymore so I don't I don't know we'll save all of our we're not even going to have a conversation probably about how do you fix this we're just going to be no yeah you got a can this one it's done it's cooked uh and yeah oh tough i don't even feel better usually i feel better after we do this and i've just no because we still know we've got four more weeks like god it's good this is going to take us right until like thanksgiving and we're like how do we get

here this show started in july oh it's depressing yeah tell me well let's go talk about dancing with the stars and cheer up Yeah. Well, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Bro's got to go.

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