Bros & Shows - THE POWER OF MARY COMPELS YOU! (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

What's up Bros? RHOSLC rolls on and the ladies throw a surprise bash to cheer up Britanni. Everyone attends except Meredith and Lisa. The group is still fractured leaving those two out on an island. It appears given the response, that the plane really was pretty bad. Brittani also has a Hallmark movie scene with Jared Osmond. Mary is reopening her church after a 2 year renovation. Her and Robert Jr. share more about his journey through recovery. Mary blesses the group at the reopening, but is that enough to bring this group back together? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I have a theory. Do you want it to do your theory now, or are you just, like, prefacing a theory? I'm just prefacing that I have a merry theory. A merry theory? A miry. Yeah. Yeah, I think we all have a miry of our own. Yeah, I'll get to my miry in due time.

But just everyone be aware, I have a merry. Okay. Okay. Okay. Bros and shows, I gotta have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows.

Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host. Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only first Penteguder. First Pentecost. McGueter. I thought she was an evangelist. They said Pentecost.

Oh. Well, she's an evangelist because it does say her name and then underneath it says first evangelist. Does it? Okay. Maybe they don't know. It was interchangeable? That's where like the subdivisions of Christianity get a little weird for me. Yeah, which is my favorite argument. I just, I don't, like when you get up there, are they like, ah, sorry. It was the, it was the Episcopalians. It sure was. Ah, man, we don't believe in purgatory here. Straight to hell. See you later, buddy. Presbyter. Shoot, sorry, man. It was actually lose king i was catholic purgatory it is it sounds great there there's not even games like what are you supposed to do talk in purgatory yeah i hear you just have to do small talk which sounds like

hell oh god yeah yeah i don't want to do what's hell then i don't know nipple clamps jeez those are the levels who knows everybody's got their own personal hell heaven's catholic purgatory small talk hell is nipple clamps well there you go yeah that's our there's our religious outlook that's how that's how we operate here. Mm-hmm. But anyway, I only brought up that married theory because we do get to go back to the church. Finally, it's been two years since we've stepped foot.

They've been doing renovations for a while, so that comes at the end of the episode. So we will get there. It's been longer than two years since we've been there. Yes. Because I don't think we were there at all in season three. No, because she wasn't there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, she wasn't there, season three.

So it may have been early season two. I'm trying to remember, because I'm like, I kind of have Salt Lake City rolling in the background. So season one, Whitney and Meredith were there. Yes. We were there. We were there. Proxy via camera. Right.

It's great time. I had fun. It's always entertaining. It is always entertaining. It is always entertaining. It looks way more fun than like my church. Yeah. My old church, I don't, you know, church back in the day.

Wouldn't that be a fun twist? If I'm like, you're just frequently going to church. Always going to church. Secret Bible thumper. Surprise. You had no idea. Just putting on a show for you guys. Yeah.

But let's jump into this episode. So I can get to my niri. Before we got into that, we were told by Andy, we were told by a lot of people, that this was going to be one of the best episodes of Housewives ever. This one in particular? This episode in particular. Oh, really? I think they set the bar way too high. I was so dissident.

It was a good episode. Don't get me wrong. I'm solid. It was a solid episode, but I was so disappointed. I thought it was going to be chaos. I thought there was going to be so much shit going on. I kept waiting for it. When we get to the church later and everyone's there, I'm like, oh, no.

Do they just pop off at this church? That would be entertaining. no they don't there's just a lot of confessions so i was a little thrown off i'm hoping maybe andy got it wrong but then they show clips for next week and it still doesn't really look like a crazy pop-off episode so i don't know what's going on uh maybe in regards to like you're seeing a very seasoned group of housewives like they're handling of everything going on i thought was really good just as far as like the context and it's not like they're we're not getting like freakouts we're getting good convos about things that are actually happening right now.

You're also seeing the group really come together to support one another, even if they don't love people. So, like, I understand from a, like, production and not production via the producers, but production of this group moving forward. Right. Like, there's a lot of good things. Maybe Andy was just, like, really in touch with the fact that Mary was back to the church. Could be that, I don't know. And it could just be because of the documentary that's going to come out, which I'm putting my bed in now.

I think it's just going to be like, we already know. all this and then it's going to be like this could be this it's like okay enough it's on e so or tlc tlc so like i don't know whatever but i'm still going to tune the fuck in for that oh i got so excited we got an email about it too thought it was going to be a screener was going to watch it right then in there no we've got a couple tlc screeners here and there yeah random shit yeah maybe we'll get it i don't know but i'm excited little person huh what is that one of them which one big world little person yeah our big world little family i think thought. I used to watch that was a sequel.

I watched that one. I liked that one. That family was really, really delightful, honestly. My 500 pound life, is that TLC? You're on the right track. Horters. Horders was TLC? I think so. Oh, cool. Yeah, pretty sure. And what was it? Intervention, which I did not. I don't like that show.

I don't think that stuff needs to be public. But anyway, maybe not. Well, today's my insane addiction? Oh, yeah. That was TLC. That one's crazy. That one's crazy. So with the recession chef, they reached out because they have this show that's similar to that. Yeah.

Because I'm like the recession chef. They're like cooking up like cushions from a couch. Well, they were trying to. We've got a person for you. They were trying to figure out a way to like, it's people that take whatever they're doing to the nth degree. Okay. So they're like, what is you like? And they asked me because I like talked to the casting later.

Like, what's like your craziest thing? I'm like, I don't think this is like what you're looking for. And try to roast cashew. on top of my fire place. Right, like that kind of which worked, by the way. It did work. We're very excited. Yeah, we're stoked about that. But Cash is roasting on an open fire. My woodfire

stove is lit for this episode. It's our first fire episode of the year, so we're both really excited and I put a couple of cashews on top of it. Just like joking like, oh, I'm trying to roast it. It worked. I threw some chemicals in there, so we're going to get high balls. Oh, nice. Eddoy. But anyway, back to my quick tangent. Yeah,

I didn't do anything crazy enough for them to cast me. They're like, oh, so you don't I think you were doing. Like, reusing water, you know, like taking toilet water out of the back so that I don't waste water, stuff like that. Or, like, you know. Meanwhile, you're like, no, we're just going for a recession and I want to show people how to save money. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, but like, you know, what are you doing?

But what are you really? What are you up to? Like, do you save trash and shit? Like, stuff like that. But, yeah. By the way, would composting be that crazy? That's kind of the vibe of like, but they would be like, well, what's what are you composting I don't know they're trying to find a way they're trying to see if

you're pooping back like how crazy I'm like yes I'm taking a shit and using it to fertilize my own like stuff like that which I'm not doing so I didn't get the didn't get the shoe in on that one which is probably said it which we could clip now and just put that out there you go so you can act like I'll make it into a gif and then I'll just like post it every single time that you post something I appreciate you like yeah I'm okay with that but anyway but we start the episode out with the entire crew except for Lisa and Meredith so They decided to get together. This thing with Brittany clearly is a big deal.

And there's been obviously a lot of speculation out there as far as like, okay, why is there no video, why is there no this, why I don't know that? As far as like the, I see you smirking and I don't really care. It's because of the comment that people with somebody left. What do they leave? Like a shooter hates victims. Oh, yeah. Well, it makes you feel any better.

Three people came to your defense and said that's a bit of a stretch. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, somebody commented like, I guess you doesn't believe the victim in regards to to Britney on the airplane. which only makes me want to go harder by the way i know i know but i and we'll talk about it this was a pity party which is fine though like that's okay with me because i think that this was important for brittany and this is important for the group as a whole i think because i'm still on the side especially even more so this episode that this was worse than was portrayed honestly because

of mary during this party because other people are talking about lisa heather's talking about. And I know, and I think there's some validity to yours. I do think it's getting amped up. If we looked at the motives for this, I would say the ones who I would say are truly in line with, I kind of feel bad right now. It's Mary because she saw Meredith's behavior and she doesn't know, it doesn't matter who it was directed at. Mary's going to feel bad for that person because it was that bad. So that's why we trust Mary because she seems to be the most logical. Well, she doesn't like Brittany. And she doesn't like Brittany. So that adds up very perfectly. And then Bromwin feels bad because she feels like maybe she kicked it off by throwing the unicorn out there.

And you might have Meredith a little bit, which, you know, it's a tiny bit of a stretch. But she feels a little bit of guilt and she feels bad for Brittany. The rest of them, you can go through and be like, you might be pushing an agenda. I'm not saying they are, but I could see how you could be like, yeah, Heather is clearly just making this about Lisa. Whitney is also making this about Lisa, maybe even Meredith. She's just trying to do something. So there are some other weird ulterior motives in there. Meanwhile, you get Brittany, the star of the show.

this is what she wanted. She's been wanting this. Not what she needed. This is what she wanted since day one. And you can tell right away because she goes to her confessional and goes, it just proves to me how much I love these women. Right. That's delusional.

It's fine. They don't like you, most of them. So I think what this party does for us, and it's really important, because it's similar to they're not similar people, all right? And their roles in their shows are not the same. but it's similar to Stacey in, this is just how you should handle Brittany moving forward. There's no reason to take her that seriously.

I agree with that. That's a good takeaway. You know what I mean? Like just, for example, at the end, when Bronwyn's not wearing her ring because Todd is skeevy and DMing chicks on the airplane getting caught, and he confirms it later. A self-respecting woman is sending lingerie pictures.

To Todd? None, none. You want to get that man bricked up on a plane? No, they want to get that man's money. Yeah, they do. Yeah. But when she says, like, well, if you guys do get divorced, like, can I have one of your rings? It's funny.

Brahmin just laughing it off going, yeah, sure, Brittany. Like, that's how. That's the way to handle it. Exactly. So that's what this party did is just, like, moving forward, guys, we have now neutralized the situation. We got, you know, I thought the build a bear at home was fucking hysterical. Yeah. That was actually one of the cooler little, like, pop-up, like, hip things.

Like, I agree. Things, yeah. I admit, it's so funny. I was like, I know I have enough side hustles. I was like, this one is a fucking winner. That one's definitely a winner, and those things are so fucking expensive. You could upcharge the shit out of people with that. That thing is already upcharged.

I know. It's insane. But if you go, Bill the Bears are like over $100. If you charge 90 plus an on-site fee, shit. Cash grab. They're fucking loaded. But that's what this scene did. And there's not, like, we can go through all the stuff, but it's not really that important.

It's more so here's how we now need to handle Brittany. we're starting from zero because this wipes the slate clean for the majority of us. It does. Stop taking her so seriously. Just laugh some things off. And if she's talking, just listen. If she says something directly to you about you that's negative, respond. Fine.

Defend yourself. It's not that hard to defend yourself against Brittany. But maybe this will teach her like, hey, don't do any of that shit to us and we'll be nice to you. Right. And that's really all she wants at the end of the day. I do love when she goes to a confessional at the end of the party. and she's talking about Lisa and Meredith. You know, I really just, and she's just echoing what everybody else was saying.

Yeah. But she remembers and says, I just need them to, like, be accountable. Just take some ownership of the things that they did. And then maybe I can move forward with these women. At the back of my head, I'm like, come on, you don't even need that. You just need them to smile at you. Maybe crack a joke in your direction. And then you'll just jump right on ship.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's probably not going to happen either. Now, just to get into it ever so slightly, the only thing that caught my attention was the fact that Lisa is mentioned multiple times as being culpable in this whole thing so here's where I've landed okay

I don't think it's to the degree that Heather's saying I don't think it's to the lesser degree that Lisa's saying I think it's somewhere in the middle I do believe that she got amped up and joined in a little bit I think her goal was to try to just get Meredith to calm down but I think she got excited during that, took a couple of shots at Brittany, nothing to the level of Meredith, but I think she just, I know how those two get with each other. Yeah.

So I think it got... Twisted sisters. Yeah. So I think she got a little mean. I don't think it's what Heather's saying. I think Heather is trying to make it much worse so that she can go after Lisa and knock her down. Right.

But I don't think that Lisa is Scott Free either. So that's where I've landed with the whole thing. And that's because Mary listened and did not say, whoa, whoa, this is a Meredith problem. Right. Yeah, it's still very much so a merit of the problem in her eyes, but you're right. If she didn't mention directly or explicitly that Lisa wasn't involved, which, you know, would she sure, will she, maybe not? I think she would just because of the verbiage that was being used where Brittany's talking about both of them. Heather's talking about both of them. Whitney obviously is going to echo that. And Mary just kind of nods along. So, and her not also saying, well, Lisa's just as much of a problem. There tells me Lisa was kind of guilty, but not fully guilty. And yeah, maybe it was a shitty foundation as to how we got here, but I'm okay with it because it pushes the two together, which Lisa very desperately in the last couple episodes needed a friend. Meredith can latch on to her because they're in this together, whether they like it or not, and Meredith gets activated. I'm okay with the two of them standing against the whole group because that will be good and I guarantee you one of them is going to defect and go over to the other side or they're all going to come back together by the end of the season.

And I know that's going to happen because it's a good group, it's a good crew, it's a good cast. And scenes from this season show that. Like, Lisa's back with them at some point. So what this does, it now alleviates the issue of the Lisa Barlow Pylon, which we didn't need any more of that. It was two episodes on the boat. That's enough. So now we're getting away from that. She's got a partner in crime.

They can go to war with the other girls for a little while. And then we'll reconvene, move on from this and start some new shit. So I agree. I know it's chaotic, but I think we're in actually a really good place. It's funny, too, because now I look at a lot different. Finally, after BravoCon when Lisa was still asking the audience who they thought was spreading the misinformation, everybody thought it was her, I got scared thinking, oh, fuck, does she do this all season and still refuses to even budge an inch? I don't think they talk about it again. I don't know.

I'm starting to feel like they don't talk about it again. Now we've got a new issue, which is great. And that's a good trademark for a good show is, you know what? We're never going to get to the bottom of this. We're never going to get to a point where we get what we want. But we've got a new issue, and she's involved again. so we can hold her accountable for this and just kind of move on and move on and move on. So that's what I'm hoping anyway, but I was a little scared over the weekends.

Well, you can see the bridge forward is the church. Yeah. They all Kiki at the church. They're all emotional there. Mary brings the group back together. I think that's going to be used as a, you know, agree to disagree. Apologize to Brittany. Let's move on.

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that deserves to be heard. We invite you to listen to Crime Salad. Your healthy portion of true crime wherever you get your podcasts. Then speaking of Mary, we get to check in with her and Robert Jr. I sobbed during this scene. So just a heads up there. I'm going to try not to get emotional now. But anyway, they've been renovating the church for two years as we know. and obviously Robert Jr. is still going through his journey with trying to be sober and fighting addiction. This was an addiction day, by the way, because I have to talk about this again when we do Southern Charm in a minute. Yeah. I had to rip this band-aid off in a while. I don't love it, but whatever.

Robert Jr. is talking about his higher power, which is a big topic in rehab and recovery centers. Higher power does not mean religion, but necessarily. it can just mean something bigger than you that you believe in that will help you through this whole thing. He already has his, which is like a big relief as far as trying to navigate this whole thing because he's talking about being in there and seeing how many people are lost trying to find that, which I saw happening as well. You know, so that's a very real thing. And he's struggling a little bit.

And he's trying to figure out where he's headed right now. And this was the part that I was like, fuck me. So he's talking about all of his friends that he's. made in rehab or in treatment when he was in Malibu and they've all relapsed and it was just I think why I appreciate Marion Robert Jr. so much when it comes to this stuff is because they just talk about the real stuff. It's not, you know, overblown or anything like that. They're just saying things that people don't really realize. For example, in my unit, we had 18 people. Six months ago is the last time I heard from anyone and two of us are still

sober. Three have died. And it. It has been seven years. Yeah. So that's recovery. And I'll talk about it a lot more in the Southern Charm episode because now I'm pissed off about something. But yeah, it was, it's just hard. It's hard to watch.

And, you know, this scene was, because we got a lot of these scenes last year and obviously it was new information. So we were processing all of it. This scene was obviously a little bit of that. But you can kind of see what Mary's done to kind of move through all of this in her process. She talks about it a little bit. She gets a lot out of them. Robert Jr. is still sharing, which is awesome.

some sheriff with the camera, they decided to do that. But then she's able to move on to talk about her own life, which is good, which is huge. Because if you're looking at this from a standpoint of Mary last year didn't know how to handle it, we knew that she didn't know how to handle it, she told Angie as much. She's definitely gotten a lot better because she's able to have that kind of open conversation with them and then still segue to, now I got to go ahead and pray for all these women because they're doing all this shit. And she's talking about the housewives to her son, which is a very normal situation that

you would see in that family setting. Yes, and it makes him feel normal. It makes him feel normal. And that was nice to see, I thought, too. Because he knows all of them, and he's like, are you fucking kidding me with these women? All right, yeah, okay. That's funny.

We'll pray for all of them. Yeah, and, you know, it's a little credit to you. Been really cool to watch over the years, like your understanding of sobriety and what they go through. Like, you know your shit. And it's, it's, are you fucking serious? It just, it means a lot to me. Okay, dude.

get them out no not for you not for you it does it means a lot to me but uh just to build off of what you were saying and then we'll move on from this one but that semblance of normalcy amidst this battle like just that little change of topic what that tells me one she has a really good handle on this two she she she's making robert feel like he's not a fucking lunatic it's just like hey man this is your life it's tough but like that's life you're doing You're doing great. It's got to the point where every conversation isn't just that. Yes.

They're able to have normal conversations. And she's gotten to a point now, which is important for her and her journey, that at the end of the day, unfortunately, it's Robert's journey. Yep. He needs to do this. And she understands that. So it's like, I'm going to be here for you. I'm going to walk you through it.

I'm going to talk to you. But you're the one that has to figure it out. She mentions that later as well. So this day-to-day thing that she's adopted, living her life while trying to tend to Robert and be a mom, but still living her life, they're navigating. this as well as they can and that's it's impressive to watch but let's move on to the very different scene with uh lisa and jb husband boss having lunch jb husband boss is done that man is finished this is i don't know years this is years of not being heard and frustration boiling over

it's funny too because we've seen so many of these scenes and obviously we know and we've seen a lot of their exchanges. And usually we don't like it when they get the condescending laugh in the middle while somebody's explaining what they do when Lisa's just going as far to say, I listen, I listen really well. I'm one of the best listeners around. Like, she's got a little Trumpism in there. And it's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

And he just picks up his phone and he goes, yeah, what? Huh? What did you say? And he does the condescending laugh, which usually we hate. And I hate to see that too. And I know that, like, sometimes you'll do that and you get into an argument with somebody, fine. but I don't like to watch it, especially when it's a husband talking to his wife. This was a long time coming.

It was warranted. This was warranted. This is okay. And I felt like he did a great job. And we've seen him in situations like this before where he doesn't really stand up for himself. He just kind of backs down when she starts going. He had a lot of really good points. A lot of really good points.

Everything he said was a good point. Yeah. And you can tell that this is what he's been saying to himself for years. And it's just reached a point now. And I think the straw that broke the camel's back is now Lisa's taking the stance of, I feel invisible. Yeah. I feel unseen. And John's stance is, that's because I'm no longer bending to your will all the time.

She tries to like, and I feel bad for it. She's just trying to bring them together the whole time and like make this a, a couple issue, not a Lisa issue. And she's like, we used to be on the same page. I feel like we're not on the same page. Yeah, because if I'm not on your page. then we're not on the same page. You get an answer for every single one of her mutual disagreement. Literally.

It's like this could be an us problem. No, it's not. I'm telling you it's not an us problem. It's a you problem. And I don't know what to do. I don't know how to tell you this. I don't know how to tell you this. But I love the example they use.

We're in the car with Henry and you're trying to talk to him. And then I'm just trying to parent him. And you look over at me and you say, well, you could probably say that a little differently. I already know how that conversation could. So do I. Where she's just being condescending and just using that Lisa, tone to her son and J.B.'s like, say it a little differently. And Henry

echoes it. That's the best part. She's like, this fucking kid, he's talking to his mother like that. I can't believe it. And John's like, I mean, I said it. So what do you want me to do? That's big, like she goes, I'm telling him my thoughts. Yeah, or are you telling him how to think? Yeah. And I can

tell the difference. And you know that that's how it went down. What else did he say? Like, the fact that Henry co-signs it, I know. Is the most damning information. So good, though. And I think that the most obvious sign of the frustration is as they're going back and forth, because she's lobbing up just volleys and he's just slamming them back at her because she's like, you know, you're not validating my feelings.

It's like, well, what about his feelings? And then she's like, you're hurting my feelings because you don't listen. And he's like, you don't listen. She goes, no, you don't listen. And that's when he starts laughing. But here's where I, this is the, not scariest, but as far as their future together, this was the biggest pause for concern because he goes 95% of the time, I don't listen. He's now at a point where, like, she starts talking and he knows that he's not going to have any input and he just checks out of the conversation.

Yeah, that's not a good side. The one takeaway that you can get from this, maybe a silver lining, I don't know if we'll ever get there. We needed, obviously, we had the pile on for Lisa. That didn't change a whole lot. She just kind of ran away from it and denied. but this is a lot closer to home so maybe this is what we need for Lisa to start taking accountability

like fuck I gotta look at myself in the mirror even my husband saying this yeah maybe I think that might be the wake-up call that she needs because after the I'm a great listener and he jumps on his phone and goes what what what then at the end of the conversation

he tries to tell her okay here's where I really stand I feel like we have nothing to talk about right now unless it's business related She cuts him off, and he's like, let me finish. Like, you don't let me finish either. She's like, you don't hug me as much. He's like, yep.

And she's like, I feel like we're not seeing each other. Again, trying to bring them together. And the laugh at the end and the smirk, as he's like, yeah, okay, you're right. It's a communication breakdown, Lisa. That's the problem. They're not in a good place. They're not in a good place. But look, I have to applaud them.

I was able to actually convey different messages, whether or not she heard him. she is a great listener but maybe she didn't hear him maybe she did I don't know but he was able to at least say his piece and like again to reiterate what you said normally we don't like these scenes normally it's like don't talk to your wife like that but this has been 17 years in the making I think I think this has been a long time coming I think he's been wanting to say this stuff for a long time he may have said some of these things but now that's on camera maybe she'll listen we have like 10 different scenes that you can point to over the last three seasons where it's like yeah she's doing that right the last Two seasons. Yeah, just the last two seasons. Yeah, she's doing it right there. She's doing it right there. We know what you're doing. It was that one scene was the most egregious offense that we've seen.

Yeah, where she was sitting on the bed. And, like, asked him a question, and as he's responding, she's just texting somebody and literally does what he did at lunch and looks up and goes, what? Yeah. And you could see in his face. He's like, this is why I don't talk. I'm not repeating myself. Right.

So, I don't know. I would imagine they'll figure it out somewhere along the way, but it does. I saw Lake's got some fucked up marriages. Yeah. You know? Getting weird. Yeah. There's a lot going on out there.

So speaking of fucked up relationships, let's check in with Jared and Brittany. Oh, man. What a camera presence this guy has. Is that what you call it? He knows where the camera is. Sure does. Fucking hell yeah, he does. My God.

Posing on the picnic bench to start off with his wild. He makes me so physically uncomfortable. Like, I feel gross when he's, on the screen. The hug was gross. He's like, mm. Like the fucking Ralph growl from Love Hotel. Exactly. That's what I immediately popped

to my head. Still so much more off-putting. He, I wrote... And she, for her response, I really needed that. What are we doing? I don't know. And this is both of them, by the way. They're both fucked. 100%. I know that this is mostly like him fucking with her brain for sure. And you can see

that throughout this entire scene. But she is very culpable in all of them. agree incredibly like this is not just a damsel in distress that just got under this guy's spell it's too bat shit crazy shit yeah like she's involved i wrote down this dude is a caricature of a middle-aged fuck boy yeah like if you told chat gpt to create an image of a 50 year old fuck boy in salt lake city jared osmond would pop up and you know he thinks he's hot as shit he's walking he's he is flexing while walking whole time that's that's that's what i'm talking about camera presence. He's about to break his coffee

cup. He's squeezing it so hard. Thanks for the drink. And the way that he talks to her is so fucking manipulative the whole time. He's like, well, what do we do? She's pretty black and white. Yeah. This is what I want, Jair. I want to know that we're exclusive. I want to

feel safe. Well, if you want to feel safe, stop being so, what's the word? He said it five times. Unstable. You can't say that to people, let alone. You might want a committed relationship, but I just want somebody who's stable. That set her off, which was, that was at least like there's a semblance of some sort of brain activity in there for Brittany, where she walked off after that. It's like, okay, good,

walk off. I don't know, like, the walk through the woods was very confusing to me. Where are they? They're next to a creek, and then she, like, pops up to a trail? They were walking on a trail, and then, I kid you not, randomly, they just panned down and they're in the middle of the creek. Standing on a bunch of rocks. Where does this come from? She's on, like, those lifts or those platforms. Yeah, how did they get there? I don't know. And as they're standing there, like this was honestly like a scene from a really shitty hallmark movie yeah that's all i could actually yeah Jared osman is a great example of the husband that gets left in a hallmark or the ex with the tree farm in like the middle of his right yeah the guy that has a you know

dog breeding thing out of his backyard yeah in his old hometown yeah what else what other examples are you probably questionable but yeah no uh what what why are they questionable people no no not a puppy not a puppy mill okay like a like a good one yeah not where i bought rigs from yeah with civic he was there oh yeah we drove to uh what was it Tennessee no it i was in oh wow uh quaker city oh wow yeah went down a dirt road ended up at a double-wide trailer with about 40 dog pens and i got a black lab for a hundred and fifty dollars I buy dogs in weird ways. You know I got Louis.

Yep. Anyway, where were we? Oh, okay. As they're standing in the creek, or Crick, depending on where you're from. I was tempted to say Crick. Yeah, you could say it. But she leaves him standing there and walks away, and he's like, this, oh, this out ends. Britney, really?

This out ends? You're going to end up like this, and then he walks up. That was, like, purely, I don't want this scene to be over. I know. I didn't either. That's all I get from all. of this. And like, when he's walking after her, he's right in the middle of the camera, even puts himself right in the middle. Like, he starts to veer over so that he's right in the center,

walking all big. Like, this guy knows where the camera is at all times. He knows how this scene is going. He wants to try to portray himself as this good guy who really wants a stable relationship. But every time she says, all I need from you is to commit to me, he changes the subject. He doesn't change the subject. He just like sides. She goes, I just want to feel safe. So they're on the trail at this point. They've left the creek. I just want to feel safe. Jared, that's unfair. Yeah.

Okay. What do you want to do? Figure this out. Were you exclusive or not? You're very confusing. Fuck you, man. What do you... By the way, let's just talk about this right now.

The way that he's weaponizing the 30-day break, I don't know, because this could go both ways, if Brittany presented it as, I need to have a 30-day break from you, which he used multiple times. So she did say that verbatim. I need a 30-day break from you for my day. daughter's sake, and he's weaponizing it against him or against her, that's incredibly

fucked up, obviously. There is a small chance that she didn't tell him why she needed the 30-day break. Oh, maybe. I could really see that. Like, you know what? This is just a toxic situation. We need to figure out what we want. I need a 30-day break from you.

If you said, I need a 30-day break because I need to work on my relationship with my daughter, and he still did this, then fine. Yeah, fuck him until he's dead. Like, get him out of here. Not literally. figuratively. That's what she's doing right now. Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, figuratively. But if he doesn't know that, then yeah, I kind of understand where he's coming from where he's like, oh, yeah, we got a 30-day break because he said it like 15 times in a very condescending way.

Kind of, but even if that was the reason, she didn't tell him the real reason, you shouldn't weaponize it if you really want to be with her. I mean, I'm just saying par for the course for their relationship. Yeah, totally. I mean, this, again, should be a movie. Yeah. There's got a... Something to do with Osmond Lane. The last house on Osmond Lane. Yeah. Sounds like a horror movie.

It kind of is. Kind of is. It kind of is. Nightmare on Osmond Lane. There you go. That's only if there's like a weird patricide or something. Ooh. There's a documentary.

And it's like based in Mormonism. Yeah. I would watch the shit out of it. There's definitely what. There's got to be something like that out there already. Ooh. Anywho, let's get to another fucked up relationship. Bronwyn and Todd.

Oh, God. They're sitting down chatting. Has anybody ever been more disappointed that cameras showed up for a conversation they had to have with their wife? No. He didn't want that. No, but he was trying to be a good sport, you could tell, because he wasn't a total dick. Yeah. This is just, I don't know what the goal is anymore because she just wants an open relationship.

I still think she wants the open relationship, but she's using this as leverage. He's like, you know, 11 years, there's been a lot of ups and downs, but we've always been able to talk about it. And this time we couldn't. It's like, yeah, you know, you're blaming her for. kicking out of the house for cheating on her. What strange stance to take? It's just the fact that you left and went out of the house for a couple of days and then had a nice call with her, which is like very different tones.

Sure. The call in the car versus this conversation that we're having here. It tells me that you definitely fucked up. You know you fucked up and you owned it and left. Yeah. So at least he did that. Confirms in this scene as well. At least he did that.

She's like what you did. He's like, I know, and I'm sorry. Yeah. He's also the kind of guy that believes that if you talk about it and apologize, you're supposed to move off. A thousand percent. Because he says at the end of this, what did he say? We talked, we're good, and we're moving forward. It's like, based on what, Todd? But that tells me that's how it's always gone. Right. I agree. Like, this is the first time. This isn't even the second time. We heard about the first time where Gwen saw it, which is crazy. But now you're

telling me that this has happened a bunch of times. And every time it pretty much ends like that. Like, we talked about it. We're good. Took some ownership. Let's move on. I don't think this one's over, though. I think she wants it to be over. Yeah, I think she's going to drag this on. I think she should. And I don't, I think she should too. I don't, I still don't know what her end goal is. Does she want to get divorced? Does she want an open relationship? So the only thing I could glean from this is I think that she's pushing the idea of the open relationship. Right. On TV. Yeah. Because somebody in his position and he appears to be, you know, old-timey will not be open to that. Right. He doesn't want his partners or whatever to see that he has this weird sex life behind the

scenes he wants them to think like no happily married happy with my wife normal i think she's putting him in a corner where she knows he's not going to say yes let's do this arrangement and he's going like this doesn't work for me and then she's going to say well you cheating on me doesn't work for me todd we need a divorce that's where i am now it's definitely all relationship based because i tried to figure out what another motive could be the only other thing i could come up with was that she wanted the leverage to get more power in the relationship but then i looked around the room and i realized you decorated this whole fucking house because it looks like a loony bin.

And your mom is staying at the house too. So you do have power of the relationship. So I don't think it's that. No. I think it's genuinely either open relationship or divorce. Yeah. I'm still not sure between those two. But I'm not sure if that's a move

because she just wants to get divorced or she wants to bang some younger dudes. Yeah. I'm cool with both. Yeah, do whatever you want. Do what you got to do. Well, is there's an agreement. He's cheating on you.

Fuck Todd. Live your life. Whatever he is. He is. You think he's got a whole other family he looks like a whole other family he's definitely allegedly got a whole other family allegedly for sure in new york five days a week where you think he's staying yeah it's not like he's in columbus oh waldof fuck out of here he's staying in a penthouse with his other family and they're watching this every week

god they don't have tv i never thought oh that's right oh that's right yeah he probably tells him like tv causes brain damage so now they're not allowed to watch tv yeah i that's the most plausible i think that could be allegedly, potentially, true. Allegedly. Potentially, allegedly true. Allegedly. For sure. I think you did it. I think you got it. We got it. Okay, cool. Let's get to Mary. Before we get to Mary, again, this scene ends with

we talked, we're good, we're moving forward via Todd. Yeah. Okay, so that's where we landed. Not going anywhere. No. But. I also love that he thinks that she shouldn't be able to talk to her friends about this. Like, I do understand the concept of like, these aren't really your friends because you're on a TV show. They really are starting to become. And by the way, it's so nice to see Heather just be normal with Brownman instead of that shit that we dealt with last year.

It's so much nicer this way and just so much more easygoing. But I think he's having a hard time wrapping his brain around the fact that these are friends and not just people she's on a TV show. Oh, that's a good point. So he sees it like, why the fuck are you giving our business, let alone the fact that we're on camera right now talking about this? But why are you telling these women about this? They're just going to use it to hurt you.

But he doesn't understand that they are actually becoming friends because Brahman, for all Intensive Purposes, I don't think she has girlfriends. At least we haven't seen any. I don't think she had until this show. Until this show. That's why she, like, had a big for her. I agree. And my favorite line from this thing, I'm glad we went back because this was important.

He's, she brings up the, the conversation she had with Whitney, you know, about the arrangement. And you can tell that he doesn't want to do it because he never acknowledges what she said. Right. But he's like, that's nobody's business. My guy, you made your sex life public when you were looking at pictures on the airplane. Yeah. This is a you problem.

Don't blame her because she's trying to talk to somebody to navigate this situation that you put her in. This is your fault, Todd. Okay? And that's why we're now all talking about. You brought this to us, and now we will discuss it ad nauseum until we deem it dead. And it's not dead till Brownin either bangs a younger dude or divorces your old wrinkly. Gout balls. Yeah, your wrinkly gout balls, allegedly.

I didn't like that one. I don't care. Fuck Todd. Yeah. You know that in the back of his head, he's like, never should. a let her get on this fucking TV show. Could it look at those picks on the airplane and peace? Nobody would have known who I was.

They would never have found my second family. We still would have probably seen a picture. It would have been like, look at this old fucking perver. In a sweater. And everybody would have seen it. It'd been like, Jesus Christ, this guy's got a cat sweater on. He's got a cat sweater on. Oh, boy.

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Let's get to Mary's Reindeer. opening she uh is locked out which you know it seems in keeping with mary but she gets in and she's giving her first address in years so she's nervous i love the is that that's her cousin yeah that was her cousin what a hype man yeah what a great hype because he's like mellow but he's just like he's giving her the right kind of props just revered reverence is what he's giving her yeah it's i like that guy but r j robert jr was supposed to to be there when he got into the car. She could tell that he was high.

So again, the handling of this is important. And I think it's important for everybody out there to hear that relapse is unfortunately part of this journey. I'm very fortunate in which I have not relapsed, but I'm also very aware that it could happen at any point and you've got to keep doing the work every day. Her acknowledgement of this and at not being the end of the world shows how strong she is in this journey and also shows her understanding of it once again. Yep. Because today's not the day. And I thought that was the best line. Today's not the day,

but we're taking it one day at a time. Some good, some bad. Today wasn't a good one, but that's okay. This is, that's trusting the process. Trusting the process. And it's also really good material for a homily. Yes. Honestly. It really is. Emotionally speaking. Yeah. And it, you know, to not vilify him for making a mistake, it just shows that she is a very good support system for Robert Jr. and we love to see. but Heather and Whitney are on the way there and Heather is trying to or I guess Whitney's explaining to her

because Heather's never been no one's ever been there Whitney Whitney and Meredith that's it so she's trying to explain the very big difference between the Mormon church and this church I would say the biggest difference is the Mormon church didn't allow black people until like 1980

something that's true but other than that just the overall vibe Mormonism seems pretty pretty drab and misogynistic. And Mary's church, they're all moving around, clapping, you know, singing song, there's a fucking, there's a full band.

Yeah. Like, it's such a better time. Now, here's my Miri, okay? And this actually makes me a little more nervous about the documentary. Okay. I feel like Bravo has tried because they didn't paint it culty at all.

Right. So the first introduction to the church was very much like, is Mary in Nicole? Is she not Nicole? Look at this weird scene at the church. church. Whitney was the one who started it. Right.

Which she acknowledges. She's like, I'm stoked that I got invited. Which also shows you this group is coming together nicely. But I feel like Bravo is trying to paint it in a very positive light. You know, it's all about her speaking to her congregation, these inspirational words, this journey, this healing, this, that, the other. That might say that what we're about to watch on TLC is a little more damning than that. because in the past bravo went with the it's a church with a little sprinkle of could it be a cult though

now it's completely deviated from that yeah look at this happy beautiful lovely place see that now it also just could be that was early in the seasons they wanted to drum up a little bit of interest like who's not intrigued by something like this she married her step-grandfather there's a lot of things going on here who's not going to just tune in immediately and try to figure out what the hell's going on agreed and now because she's been on screen for a while

she's been delight for the last two years, going through the Robert Jr. stuff. Maybe they're just kind of backing off from the sprinkling of anything there. Maybe. But I don't know for sure. Again, I don't think that this documentary is going to hit. I don't think it will.

But do you see where... I understand where you're coming from. Yeah. Bravo's protecting their asset. Right. So... That kind of vibe. Yeah. And again, let me also say,

if there are things to be unveiled, like if this really is a bad situation for people... Yeah. And they're stealing money or anything weird. they should be outed if that's not happening though I really like Mary and want to continue to like Mary

this may maybe make me not like Mary and I don't want that to happen no I don't want that to happen either I don't think it's going to happen I hope not we're going to be good but Whitney and Heather are discussing whether or not the dynamic duo

will reappear in Lisa and Meredith and we get that that classic quote it's a classic nobody sweats like two whores burning in church. That old adage. Merging a couple of them together. Sure.

I don't know. What is the actual one? Nobody sweats like a whore in church? I'm sweating like a whore in church. Sweating like a whore in church? Yeah, the implication being. And then the other thing is as soon as like you step over the threshold, you're going to burst into flames.

Right. So I think Whitney was just like, put them all together. Sure. See what happens. Yeah. I will say it is definitely the, The more, that's like probably the Mormon version is, is that brash of nobody sweats like two whores burning. It's probably more than that.

Probably is. Yeah. And if they're not burning, they will burn them. Yeah, that's how it ends. Or nobody smiles like a congregation watching two whores burn in church. First, they actually have to go talk to Joseph Smith and then. Then they put a half an hour, they come back out and then they get burned. Then they burn them.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then then they sweat. And that's where they got the saying from. But everybody comes to church. and Lisa and Meredith arrive and they're going with the

it wasn't that bad approach we're all cool still right because they walk up and Lisa's like hey everybody and she's like Heather says to her I wasn't sure if you're coming she's like why because of everything that yeah yeah because of everything that happened

are we still doing this but what I did appreciate and this gives me more hope for the dynamic duo is her confession I don't give a fuck if you don't like me great that's what we need you what we want. We need you right there. We need you to stop rattled.

You're getting rattled. Pick yourself up. Cost yourself off. Go to war. Start fighting back. She does have to retool a little bit, though, because if she responds in a way of, I heard that you did this, they can turn it back on her and say, where did you hear that? Correct.

You're doing it again. So now she's going to have to find a different approach. I think she can. Find a new slant. It's very important in sports. You've got to evolve, right? You're not the same player you were three years ago. You don't have the same agility.

You got to change it up a little bit. You want to stick around in this league. So this is the first time she's been challenged like that. Yeah, that's a good point. And she rise to the occasion. I believe she can. I don't know. Time will tell.

We'll see. Let's get to church. I don't think it helps the cult allegations when you have a gold mic. Just going to throw that out there. Yeah, I like the gold mic. Oh, I think it's worse. The gold mic or the bedazzled Bible. I think they're both.

I don't know. Probably the, if you're going from like a religious standpoint. If she did it in a way of this is. actually 14-carat gold and, like, talked about it, and be like, oh, that's not a really good book. It might be, but, you know, it could just be paint of gold. I just don't, you know, between that and the bedazzled Bible, I think it sends the wrong message. You know, I think it sends the message of I make a lot of money from you guys. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's just not helping. I don't know, yeah. Just not helping, that's all. But she does give a very moving message to everybody. She shouts out all the ladies in the group, which I think is what we need. Very interesting, yeah. And I think that that's what her goal was with this whole thing, was to bring everybody back together.

And who else but marry the Messiah to bring this? I imagine being in that crowd, and she's calling out individual people, but you don't know who those people are. So you're like, fuck, is she going to call me out? Come on. She's going to call me? Come on. That's when you, like, poke your head up a little bit more. Me? No.

The hell? Fuck this church. No. But she even quotes Ocho Cinco, which was probably my favorite part of the sermon. Bless him, bless him, bless him. Starts throwing blessings out left and right. I'm not saying that it's two whores burning in church. But Lisa and Meredith are very hot.

They're sweating. She's having a moment. She's even fanning herself with the fan. And then Whitney gets to say, I told you, two whores burning in church. All of them were fanning them. I know. The whole place is probably hot. They renovated this whole place and still didn't put AC in it.

Come on. Yeah. There is something about that, though, for certain religions. You want to be hot in church. They want you to be hot in church. Sweat out the demons. I don't know why. Yeah, sweat out the demons.

Make room for the Holy Spirit. Oh, maybe because it's Sunday and everyone's hung over. So it's like, oh, we're going to help you get unhung over. That's a possibility. Sweat it out of church. And then, here of the dog. You go get communion. Bang, you're right back.

Oh, bloody at brunch. That's what it's all about. What it's all about. Let's get some questions. Oh, wait. No, we can't. hold on hold on hold on hold on then we'll get to questions Lisa is talking about her experience at this church

saying that you can find peace in all faiths which I think that's a beautiful message I agree with that even the church of Satan I have the same question as production wait really she's like yeah you know and this is this also does not give me confidence at how well Vita's doing I thought this was funny as all no it doesn't give me confidence yeah about the company yeah like how well if you're giving out

free Vita to anybody who asks that doesn't free? She said when they place orders, we don't really ask questions. Did she say place order? She said order. Okay. All right, that's a big difference. But that same thing, though. You should be able to have the right to refuse, especially the Church of Satan. If you're making money,

I mean, look, no persecution of religion or whatever, but like Not just Satan also, it's an interesting rabbit hole if you want to go down a rabbit hole. It might not necessarily do what you think it does. They drink tequila, I guess. They love tequila.

Fuck it. I am not in this church, just for the record. I'm not. But it's not so much like the worshipping Satan from what I've learned. It's more so the rejection of other religion. So do with that what you will. I am not a member of the church of Satan. Okay?

That is not why I wear a word for that. It's not why I wear a hat all the time to cover my horns. Atheist, agnostic? No, because it's acknowledging that there is a higher power, but it's not acknowledging. I think they sympathize with the fact that it was kicked out of heaven or something. Oh. There's something to do with free will and rejection. He was different.

He got rejected. Rejections of prophets and like the free will thing. And I don't, again, go down the rabbit hole yourself. I am not a member of the Church of Satan. Yeah. I'm not a Satanist. They're like on Cane's side. It's like Abel was fucking with him.

That's all. You got a shit deal. They're just the Bible contrarians. No one heard Abel's side. Noah actually caused that flood. He was delusional. He built this fucking ship. Everybody was making fun of him.

So he caused the flood. He used the wood from the dam to build the boat. Oh, God. Let's get to some questions. Quickly. uh first up here from blacksmith trev why do you think we haven't gotten any solo scenes of meredith this season because her family lives in new york yeah she doesn't live there and she doesn't have any friends out there other than this group lies out just the film and then goes back to the york probably and also she is a dj now she doesn't have time for this show if you couldn't tell by her lack of enthusiasm in every scene that she's in yeah which does beg the question do you think that she thinks because this isn't the same as you know know, Ariana or some of the other page, people that have outgrown their shows. Yeah.

But I think she feels like she's outgrown the show. I think she feels like she's on the way to outgrow it. In what regard? I don't know. It's not like Meredith Mark's caviar is Billboard. No, but I think between her kids being on NextGen and then moving on to DJing, she's in so many different things that she feels like maybe, not yet, but she might be able to move past this show.

Don't forget where you came from. I know, I'm a dangerous game to play. Next up here from Car Millionaire. Who else thinks that the broccoli was just a cover-up and Whitney took a huge dump before. Oh, yeah. I'm just happy that the byproduct was we got a weird little like pan over to Mary

talking about Angie once again saying, yeah, broccoli's here just to cover up the farts. Leave Mary's flatulence alone. We all fart. The fart jokes are great, though. We got a fucking comment because we said farts are funny. Yeah. They are objectively funny, guys.

You all agree. Somebody had something to say about that. They did not agree. They said, farts are gross. They're not funny. You kidding me? Okay. Well, at least that wasn't what I was saying where the weird, what are they,

Gen Alphas, the youngest. Oh, God. Oh, that they don't think farts are funny. An entire generation of people that doesn't giggle at a toot. Yeah. What's wrong with you? What was the question? Just talking about broccoli farts

You're going to have to help me through this one This is from Gray, G-R-E-Y-Y-Y Y. Y'all still too blinded by the Lisa hate To see through the other ladies bullshit Or is any of this stinking y'all as lies? Shriking y'all as lies. Let me just go ahead and ask you If you actually listened to this podcast, Shooter went on an entire race.

Oh, yeah, I still think Lisa did nothing wrong. Yeah. Did you miss that one? What are you talking about? Come on, Gray. Come on, Gray, I'm the one that's saying. You're on my team. Right.

Most of the time, I would say recently we've been agreeing more, but still 75% of the time you can find on this podcast, both stances usually, or a semblance of both. Yeah. Yeah, that's not fair, Gray. Jay Bay the Hut, 713. Who's worse, Jared or Slade? Jared. I think Slate's worse. I think it's just.

Slade's probably. But here you go, Slade's a worse person. Yeah. Jared's tougher to watch. See, I think Slade's a worst person, and he's tougher to watch. Okay. I think it's both. I think you're also splitting hairs.

Throw them both in the same bin. Yeah, they can go church to Satan. Not at my church. This is a good one from Emma Arrin. In a scale of one to Tamara slash Eddie in the bathtub, thanks for reminding us. Oh, great. How uncomfortable did the Jared Hug make you? Not quite as uncomfy as the bathtub scene.

We also got Seth and Meredith in a bathtub. There was a year where we got a lot of bathtub scenes. That was the, yeah, the prop that season. Sound baths and... If you had said Meredith and Seth, that would have been more uncomfortable because of the toe and the taint that we had to hear about. Yeah. It wasn't that bad.

No, it was not as bad as toe taint. Yeah. Thanks, Seth. Oh, April Champs asking about the chair company show. Oh, do yourself a favor. Phenomenal TV. How are we feeling about it? It's great.

Anything Tim Robinson's great. But this is like peak, Tim Robb. This is like... Although I watch Friendship on my flight back from Chicago. Wasn't that great? I got mixed reviews on that one. I feel like the chair company is all of the really good skits from I think you should leave packed into one show. And we'll do one more here.

This is just a statement, but we can end on it. From Miranda and 412, Brahman wants the cheating to come out to use it as leverage for divorce. The cheating's been out. Yeah, that's not a thing anymore. That's why we have questions about this. Yeah, so that's why you can come to my team of she's using this to back him into a corner because she knows he won't acknowledge or accept an open relationship,

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