Bros & Shows - The Real House-Husbands of Salt Lake (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

What's up Bros? Its the end of the Palm Springs trip and the ladies have taken a back seat to the husbands this episode. Bronwyn and Lisa are still beefing after Todd's ultimatum. Bronwyn just wants Lisa to hear her out on her feelings about the altercation with Heather. Lisa seems incapable of doing so which leads to Bronwyn questioning their entire friendship. Lisa is also still having issues with Justin and Whitney after the blow up at Angie's party. When it's brought up at lunch, it seems as their is no way forward but dont worry... JB Husband Boss is here to save to save the day! He minimizes, undermines and oversimplifies the situation to show these ladies how easy it is to reach an agreement! (Not.) Shawn sees the opportunity to jump in and defend Angie against Lisa's continued treatment of her. Todd and Bronwyns relationship comes under further scrutiny as we watch how he talks to her. And on top of that, how she talks about their relationship. We said it last week and we'll say it again, we do not care for how he talks to her and that is only furthered at the dinner table when he shuts her down and embarrasses her in front of the entire party. Whitney and Lisa and Justin are able to squash the Alibaba thing finally (thank god) and are able to move forward. However, Meredith wishes to rehash her problems with Shawn in regards to a comment about Brooks on a podcast appearance. And dont worry, in one of the cringier moments we've seen, Seth provides "Proof Biotch!"... Lisa and Bronwyn end the episode with a discussion that will only further the rift between them and it appears that the potential punsihment for that is a 45 minute return trip in coach. Want more BravBros content? Join BravBros Members to recieve exclusive weekly episodes, monthly community zooms and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only bachelor goots what's up dude uh yeah uh feeling great i had a

i've already talked to steal about this so we know how we feel i had a four-day bachelor trip ridiculous just a ridiculous premise it's so long just incredible just incredible just so many beers it's too long there was a boat involved there was a lot of golfing and uh did i mention the beers yeah yeah so yeah i will be i'll be smell the beer through the screen honestly i i will be sweating it out for a week i you know it's one of those things that like i could shower as many times as i want and i could hydrate as much as i want it's just it's gonna linger with you for for a couple of days here the only thing that you can possibly do is sit in a sauna for an inappropriate amount of time but yeah you told i texted you my breakdown of a bachelor party that because night one's

always a blast night one's always fun you go way too hard and makes day two the start of day two is rough day two afternoon and evening great day three brutal and when i said that to you i was like day three is like that's too much that's when you need to cut it off you go dude it's day four and that is irresponsible it's it's just ridiculous best was i put something up on instagram and you're like dude how are you still there and i and you said three days is way too much and I go, it's day four. And you're like, even worse. That's not.

But I will say the funniest part, at least from the podcast perspective, we were all getting there on Thursday. And one of the guys on the trip comes up and goes, my wife was very happy that you guys were able to get on a couple of episodes before we left. So shout out Jamie, because she's probably listening to this. And you're welcome. And you're also welcome for now because I feel like crap, as you probably look at your husband, who doesn't feel great either.

the best part is we have we have a lot coming up and there's a lot of shows out right now so hanging over your head for the entire weekend is the fact that we have to record three episodes today back to back to back so why don't we jump right in because we're not here to talk about bachelor parties or i don't want to shit on your friend because obviously we're just on his bachelor party congratulations but yeah four days is too long pal three max two ideal one gets you into trouble because one you go too hard. But anyway, we're here to talk about Roslick. And I'm going to aptly name this episode the Real House Husbands of Salt Lake City

because we got too much for the husbands. We were talking about it last week where we were tiptoeing around that line of too much husbandry. We have reached that point. But I do think that the difference is, I mean, it was a good episode regardless. But I think the difference is they all seem to be. self-aware that they're getting too involved, which tells me, hopefully they'll pull back now, or at least producers will pull back. We've gotten enough.

They didn't flop either. Like, it was an entertaining episode. So I'm good on husbands for a while, but I'm glad they're at least self-aware. They're at least self-aware. I will give them that. But I agree. This was way too much husbandry. I really like that word.

And I was getting flashbacks from other shows that we will not mention right now when the husband's got way too much involved and rhymes with blue blue bursy blue bursy yeah everybody knows that state they're famous for their blue burzies um yeah no it does it teetered on the line then it went way over the line and then it came back and i will say from the midseason trailer there is more husband involvement a little bit later with one person in particular who We have done a full 180 on, liked them to start off with in Todd, did not like him pretty much this entire trip. A whole new perspective on that guy,

want nothing to do with him. And he wants nothing to do with the show, which is great. Go away. Yeah, fuck off now. And that's the best part is in our comments of that video that I posted of us talking about how we didn't care for Todd anymore because of how he was talking to his wife. There were so many people, like the majority were in agreement with us.

And then you had a bunch of people that were doing the whole, he's just from a different generation. That's just how he talks. I'm like, that's no longer an excuse that works for me. Just because you're from a different generation doesn't mean you should be able to talk to your wife that way. But this was kind of the best, like, vindication for me for all of those people.

Just watching this episode. I'm like, here, this is what we were referring to. It's gross, as I said, because a lot of people like, it's not gross. I was like, eh, it's gross. This was gross. Didn't care for his behavior. How he talks to her, his temperament overall. If you're going to be a stick in the mud with a stick up your ass, go hang out alone.

Go back on your business trip. The funniest thing to me is anybody defending him, we're like, he made the ground rules clear. You invited a group of crazy reality TV stars to a house in Palm Springs. What the fuck did you think was going to happen, Todd? You seem like a smart man. Do some research. Watch one Real Housewives episode where they go on a trip. How long does it take before a fight breaks out, trivial bullshit gets.

involved and everyone hates each other i don't care for the man i thought his sweaters used to be funny now i think they're stupid i think that he's just a crotchety old bitch and he needs to stay off the screen from now well the weird thing is he seems like he wants nothing to do with the show he seems like he wants nothing to do with any of the situations that arise and yet you have confessionals personal one-on-one confessionals like make that make sense to me because i don't get it if you truly want nothing to do with this and i am not claiming that he is Johnny Jay or anybody that claims that they don't want any part of this, but they secretly do. And then they keep finding the way that comes on screen. He really doesn't. So

that makes no sense to me. And maybe we'll get a little bit more on that later, I guess. But yeah, hopefully this is the end of the husbands because obviously on trips and it's a couple's trip, but it's an anniversary trip. And it's your 10th anniversary. This is how you want to spend it? You couldn't go do something else? Like, yeah, do you think it's enough that you just spent all this money on a private jet and a nice place to stay in a four million dollar necklace that's enough for you don't spend it with these people if that's what you're going to do a fucking necklace i can't wait to talk about the necklace but let's jump into this episode we got jb husband boss with lisa barlow and they are going over the ultimatum that todd just gave and it's interesting

i know that whitney does put her foot in her mouth and get involved in the wrong situations she puts this i guess jb husband boss does he's like there's one common denominator here. It's Whitney. Whitney didn't call Heather. No. Whitney didn't face time Heather in the hot tub. And Whitney didn't have had like this whole thing stems from the Heather and Bronwyn debacle where Lisa's hearing Heather's side but refusing to hear Bronwyns. That's where this comes from. This has nothing to do with Whitney. She's an scapegoat. I see why that would be the first thing. Like, oh, it's Whitney's fault. Yeah, a lot of times that works, even if she's not involved. I'll give you that. This time it doesn't. You decided to

FaceTime, Heather. You decided to take Heather's side without even hearing Bronwyn out. So it's funny that Whitney catches astray, but in this for once, she's actually not culpable. No, not at all. And it makes a lot of sense to me because one, JV. is a husband. He's a boss. We know all of these things. He is a J.B. He doesn't really, he doesn't really know what's going on. So it's easy for him to think, well, this must be all Whitney's fault because you and Brom are friends. He probably doesn't realize that there are a lot of nuances going on. It is between Bronwyn and Lisa. And we know that from their confessionals.

We know that from the fight itself. And there's other things that are coming in between it that they're using as ammo for each other. You want to have an issue between the two people. Let me give you an example and it has to do with Heather. Let me give you another example and it has to do with Whitney. So it's not Whitney or Heather's specific faults. It's still between Lisa and Bronwyn. So I'm not surprised that, obviously, J.B. didn't get that.

Lisa and that, Lisa just has so much hatred for Whitney right now. that if you blame anything on Whitney, she will run with it. Yes, it is Whitney's fault. You are correct. Was she the one that said or did a J.B. husband boss say it. Now I'm going to forget now.

John said it. He did say it. Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah. So it's the easiest scapegoat. It's just for once, like I said, it doesn't work. But we get to this lunch scene, which is painstakingly awkward in the beginning.

Everyone's just chewing and making faces like at each other because they don't know what else to say. But Lisa decides to bring up the. conversation at the table, which I'm fine with. I think that that's what we watch the show for us to bring up things in front of the group. It was funny to me because as I'm watching, I don't know if that's the Todd effect, but even I was like, ooh, don't talk about this now.

I was like, wait, that's bullshit. Todd's putting a damper on how I watch it now. And I know that sounds silly, but in my head, I'm like, oh, it's going to piss off Todd. Don't do this. And I was like, wait, no, fuck Todd. Do this now. And I thought it was important to bring it up.

But Bronwyn genuinely, from what I'm gathering, simply wants to be heard out and wants Lisa to understand her side of things, rather than just take Heather's side because she's known her longer or she's been on the show with her longer. Because I don't know how long if we compared friendships. I don't know who's been friends for longer. But Bronwyn's not asking for a whole lot. Lisa's incapable of taking accountability. We know that. We've seen it for years. We will continue to see it.

the only time she's going to apologize is to save face at the end and it always comes with an I'm sorry, but what she's not good at is taking accountability and she's really good at deflecting because during this between Lisa and Bronwyn, somehow Whitney catches astray once again and the Alibaba stuff comes up. And then it turns into Whitney, Lisa and Justin and the whole thing explodes. And now it's a husband thing again. And Bronwyn says what I thought was the funniest she goes i thought i was i genuinely thought i was going to get an apology and here we go deflecting to whitney and i think it's interesting that lisa's making such a big deal out of this justin and whitney thing and i don't think it has to do with wanting an apology i think it's simply

the fact that whitney's involved and called her a liar yeah no that that's exactly what it is and she can't get past that and that happened and it still stems from the podcast thing too where she called her a villain and then it goes into this and she was never able to to get past it. And of course, she's just going to deflect across the board to Whitney because she's not going to take the responsibility. I did love in this moment when Todd was like, I'm just going to go inside. I don't know why Brahmin looks at him and says, you got to stay out here for a few minutes. Just stay here first because she wants to look. She wants a little bit of support. Yeah. Yeah, she wants support, which he's not going to give her anyway, because we just watched that happen

last week. He just wants to wash his hands of everything and move inside. I'm not going to, we have like one or two more things to say about Todd, but I'm not going to harp on them. Every time that Lisa is confronted, she is going to bring in somebody else that she has an issue with because it's an easy cop out. It's an easy way to not just address things head on. And we did at least get that later. I will say that we made her address it head on at the very end. And I thought that Brahman was very succinct. Bramma was very direct about how she felt and what she wanted.

And Lisa still was not able to give that to her. So this is also what she's doing. There are defense mechanisms of play, of course. and I like that Bronwyn is holding her to the fire. She's making her say things and she's making her address these things. And we're watching all of these little mental mentalities at work. And she just keeps deflecting and deflecting and deflecting. And she's never going to just straight up apologize until it's absolutely exhausted.

And maybe she will eventually. But I don't really know what the hell's going on now between their friendship because I don't know. Did you watch the after show? Yeah. Yeah. So there was a clip floating around two from the after show where it seems like Bromwin and Lisa are still. kind of taking some subtle shots at each other. So I don't know where they stand currently, but I can't see looking at somebody like Lisa who's inability to actually take any sort of

responsibility just keeps rearing its ugly head and wanting to continue to be friends or at least be that close that you thought you were. So I don't blame her for doing this, but I do like the way the problem is going about it because we do have to talk about it. I agree. I just, the funniest thing to me, this is probably why I didn't have as been. of an issue with the husbands being as involved because not only were they self-aware, but the show itself was somewhat self-aware because J.B. Husband boss is like, I'm putting my foot down. Why don't we just settle this once or for all? He's like, Lisa, did you start the Ali Baba rumor? She's like, no, there you go. You got it. Perfect. Now we can move the fuck on

from that. And I love that Bronwyn goes to a confessional. And it's just like she says what we're all thinking. Oh, don't worry. The men are here. fix things. It's that easy peasy thing. Thank God for J.B. Husband boss. We couldn't have figured this out on our own. And that's what it was to me. It was dismissive and disrespectful. I get what John's doing. He's trying to stand up for his wife. He's trying to put this whole thing to bet. He's trying to move on from it. But you are just completely discrediting everything else that's going on. They are at odds. Somebody has faulted somebody else. They are trying to figure it out. They do not need you to step in and try to figure it out for them. And the over simplification of the

issue is in itself disrespectful to the women of the group. You are pretty much saying everything you've been going back and forth about has been so trivial and stupid. Watch me fix it. This is how simple it is, ladies. And I'm glad Bronwyn called that out. Like, oh, thanks, J.B. Couldn't have done this without you. Guess what, John? Nothing's solved. And the best part is production goes, boom, roll credits. I'm like, fuck yes. At least they're acknowledging how stupid that was of jb husband boss to try to just squash this whole thing there's so much more to it but what i was not expecting was sean from the top rope it's like well i'm gonna jump in now too because i heard lisa talk a whole lot of shit about angie and i'm all for a pile on i think we all

are yeah a pile on is always always a good thing do you know what i don't need though i don't need a husband pile on that's not what i needed like that sean i get it i think that I have a different opinion about Sean because he does seem to have Angie's back. I know their relationship's kind of funny, but they do seem to care about each other. And I feel like he's been watching Angie get trampled on this whole time. Because when I look at issues and friendships, Angie and Lisa seems real to me because Angie really cares and seems to be really upset about where their friendship has gone. The Whitney and Lisa stuff, like that's dumb.

I don't care about that. John getting involved is dumb. I do feel like Sean was taking an opportunity here to be like, all right, well, if we're going to all tear Lisa down, this is what I've had an issue with. And I'm for it. But I do think the timing sucks because I don't need a husband pile on on a housewife on a trip. I just don't need it. No, no.

We never need it when the husbands get involved. But I do love a good pile on, especially when somebody is just completely going around circles and not taking accountability anywhere. And there are, it's kind of funny because it calls attention to how many fires have yet to be put out on this show in particular. There's so much going on and there's so much that's happened in what, eight weeks or seven weeks or however many episodes we've had that. We don't have a flow chart because no one gives us flow charts.

We ask all the time, but still nobody gives us flowchart. However long it's been since we started, there have been so many different things and there are so many people at odds that it is really hard to keep track of it all. So a good pile on is like a flow chart. It tells us, hey, wait a minute, we never figured that one out. You are right. And the Angie and Lisa thing is very real. and I feel like it's taken a back seat because Whitney has just been the loudest person in the room talking about something that nobody gives a shit about.

We need to move past the Alibaba thing. You're now at the point where what we're talking about with Heather on OC talking about the paparazzi thing. The more you talk about it, the more I think that you are involved with Alibaba. So it's stop. Just enough. And your podcaster friend is not a credible source. We've all called it out. So stop calling them a source.

It's stupid. But Sean jumping in there. I don't know, I don't know what the hell is going on with them. Sean with Meredith too. Like, I don't know what the hell is going on. Sean's going on podcasts. Yeah, like you're really getting into a bad territory and you need to take a step back. You have to get out of all of this.

We did like you. I'm getting to a point where I don't really like you anymore. I do think that that comment on the podcast and we'll talk about it a little bit later is very weird. But I know that, you know, it's in response to something that she. kind of did to you guys last year. So all right, you got to stay out of it. But I did think that each husband just kind of took a cue. And the best part is Seth was like a daily. Like it's just everybody else is jumping in. We've got all the husbands are involved. Justin is talking down at the other end of the table. He doesn't even get subtitles because we don't care what he's saying

anyway. Like it doesn't really matter. You're just adding to things that we don't need to be added to. And then, yeah, obviously Seth comes back six, seven hours later. Like, oh, wait, we're still too in this, right? No, we're not. But yeah, just keep the husbands out of it. I don't want to keep talking about them. Now, but Seth does have a great chime in here. He's like, does anyone else's pee smell will need asparagus? Let's go play the beach volleyball, which is a great transition into, I was very much hoping. And if anyone's ever been to one of our live shows, we walk out to a very specific song from Top Gunn called Playing with the Boys. And it is the song of the scene when they're playing volleyball and jorts on the beach ice man maverick versus uh

oh god it's ice man versus maverick and goose who's ice man's partner radar no no fuck that's gonna drive me nuts uh my brain's not working today yeah we can come back to that we'll circle back we'll figure that one out but i was really genuinely hoping we get a playing with the boys we did not we got a copyright yeah i love the the non-copyright infringement like danger zone that they shoehorned in there it's close enough but before we get there this is a an uncomfortable scene and we've seen it throughout and it's now at the point where part of me can appreciate what mary's doing in being open about this stuff right at the same time this is one of those scenes that we don't need to be seeing for so many reasons

And it's quite clear that Robert Jr. is going through something. I don't like to label anything. It appears to be substance abuse related. And the more that I've thought about this, as you all know, given my background, the more I've been trying to figure out, is this appropriate? Is this not appropriate? I do not think that this will be beneficial for Robert Jr. if he is going to try and get a handle on whatever he's going through. I don't think that being in the spotlight like this is going to be beneficial for him. also don't know how good it is for people that struggle with this stuff to see this on TV. It could be seen as a trigger or something like that. So the one thing that I'm trying to take away from it that I think is beneficial for everybody seeing it just because of what we've had on Bravo over the past year or two. This has been a recurring theme on multiple shows, whether it be alcohol, substances, whatever. I think one thing that we can all take away from it is this is very pretty. So anybody that still has this stigma about substance abuse, about alcoholism, we're seeing

it in real time. Everybody knows somebody going through it, whether it be your sibling, whether it be your spouse, whether it be your son, daughter, whomever. So I think the biggest thing that we can all come together and agree with is having sympathy, empathy, and grace for people going through this kind of thing. That being said, I don't know if this is the right move by Bravo. I don't know if it's the right move by Mary. I appreciate very much that Mary is trying to mother this thing. She's trying to figure it out. She's trying to help Robert Jr. And she doesn't know how. And I think that that part is what struck me the most is her sitting in her confessional discussing it. And she's kind of lost. And that hit

close to home for me. I was like, fuck, that's really hard to see. And I appreciate her being open. It's just, I think that we've reached a limit on how much we need to be showing these scenes. I agree to. And look, vulnerability is something that we've never seen for Mary. So it is in a sense sort of refreshing because it's very humanizing of her for something. Yeah, I don't want to discredit her for what she's trying to do. And you have to imagine she must have had a conversation with producers. She must have had a conversation with family members, friends, whoever, that she felt that it was the right move.

It was necessary to include this in her storyline, in her journey, if you will, during the season to share this with the public. So I do think that her intentions are pure. I do think that everything is definitely on the up and up. And I think that honestly, I think it's like sort of like a little bit of an outreach essentially showing, hey, you know, this is what I'm going through. There's a lot here and I want to be able to be helpful. And that's all I'm trying to get from these scenes because we've talked about it before. It does seem like something we shouldn't be privy to.

But if Mary wants this to be included, I don't think this is her trying to show it for, you know, any other reason besides. I want to be helpful. I want to be able to show a concern. I want to be able to show the audience who knows me that this is what's going on in my life. And, you know, maybe it's, I'm sure it's relatable to a lot of people. So that's the type of thing that I'm assuming that's where she's coming from, which we can always appreciate. So that's what I'm trying to kind of at least understand where it is. Yeah.

And I just, I really felt for her in how she was speaking about it, where it's like, I don't know what, I'll do whatever I have to do. don't know what that is yeah and that that line alone i'm sure hit a lot of people right in the gun because they probably understand that feeling and that's tough and i'm i'm glad that she's able to be vulnerable i do not think this is slimy i don't think she's trying to garner attention i think that she's genuinely like i don't know what to do that i'm sharing that because maybe this will help i don't i don't know but i do think that at this point we're good with those scenes we don't need those scenes anymore we get what they're going through mary is going through it does appear like we're going to have another scene with Robert

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well we get to volleyball and you know i just wrote down could not as expected yeah it's it's exactly how it's expected i thought they did sean dirty because they've already made a small joke lisa did earlier and then they show him getting spiked on boom and he can't reach it so i was like oh man production did him dirty there but i thought it was much funnier that that scene wraps up lb and jb husband boss are discussing and lisa's like i feel much better with bronwyn and i'm like why What has transpired since the awkward lunch that would make you seem like you're in a better place with Bronwyn. You played volleyball with the entire group. You have not discussed things.

Things are not better. You guys, nothing's been solved. You haven't heard her side of anything. So why on earth? Because she was cordial during a volleyball game because she doesn't want to piss off her husband. That's what happened. By the way, Todd seemed to be playing, which is the funniest part to me. He was standing on the court.

I don't know if he made any moves or not. And he was doing anything, yeah. He's probably staring with his arms crossed, just like grumpy staring at everybody. He was doing the same thing that he was doing at the F1 race. He was just sitting there staring at his phone doing God knows what, probably reading emails for work or whatever. But yeah, from Lisa's perspective, thinking that everything's blown over now, that just shows you what her past experiences are on this show with dealing with any sort of issues. Any time that that happens, yeah, we're going to start talking about it. And then we're going to start talking about somebody else who's wronged.

me and then I'm going to forget about the original conversation, then we're going to go to lunch and you're not going to continue the conversation. That means it's over. That means I feel a lot better right now. And I look, maybe if Brahmin had been on the show for a couple of years, she might treat it the same way as everybody else has. But Brahmin is still very raw in the reality TV world. And she's still looking back like, what the fuck?

Like we didn't finish anything. I thought I was going to get an apology from you. And instead, you just called out Whitney. So no, this isn't over with. I just love it. The disconnect is incredible. Yeah, the Dululu. I was like, why, why on earth would you think that things are cool now? You guys haven't talked about anything, but it immediately goes to Whitney and Justin, and they're commenting on Lisa being a bit awkward and this is where you get the line.

I believe my source fully. Based on what? Again, based on what? Even from your source's definition of what he got, he went through another account and DMed them. That's not proof. you're getting like a down-the-line telephone tag game to where you get to point your finger at the villain you want to point it at you want Lisa to be guilty you want Lisa to have had something to do with it from Lisa's reactions I truly don't think she's involved in the

alibaba thing I really don't but she wants to believe so wholeheartedly that she is that she's taking this again heavy quotes source that he's the gospel truth and it's just It's so dumb to me to think that, okay, we could do this right now, dude. We could DM multiple Bravo accounts and be like, is this true? And they could give us their opinion from based on what they know. But again, until we see receipts, proof, timeline screenshots, like, we don't fucking know what the truth is. And if anything that is true about Bravo and Housewives, you need receipts.

I need to see it. If I don't see it, if it's hearsay, like, especially from a comment. content creator. No, I'm not going to believe that. It's very simple. Show us proof. We see bedazzled folders fail all the time. Those are real receipts that do not land. And you want me to take you at your word because you heard it from a podcaster friend that you're no longer friends with, by the way, because you want to watch what happens live and dragged him. So I don't understand why this is this is such their sticking point. Well, I heard we hear shit all the time. I know the housewives here way more than us. Meredith, she's catching up on her DMs. God knows what she's

heard, but you can't take all of that and run with it. It's like if you took every Dumois blind item and said, this is true, this is true, this is true. It says in Dumas, these are not corroborated. We don't know for sure. So I do not care for when we get stuck on evidence that is just simply not substantiated and very easily pushed to the side because this is one of those qualms. that should have been squashed by now. We do not need to continue rehashing this stupid thing, especially now considering the husbands are getting involved. That's when you know you've reached the limit.

When the husband starts to speak up more than one episode about the same issue, we need to move on. You as a cast, you as Lisa Barlow, you're going the wrong direction, time to move on. And moving on means having a conversation, not saying,

we're good, we played volleyball. Like that's... Well, if you notice, Lisa didn't say that her and Whitney, you're good because they played volleyball. I don't really know where the bar is.

But the only thing that Lisa is guilty of in my mind is perpetuating. I know that she did talk to multiple people about it because why would she not? She doesn't really like Whitney. She's at odds. Whitney goes on a podcast and calls her a villain. Of course she's going to be talking to people in her inner circle. Of course she's going to be talking to Heather, Meredith, whoever, about your Alibaba stuff. She's not saying it's definitely true.

She's probably just making fun of it, to be honest. So that is incredible. And yeah, Whitney, it's just, the whole thing started, and it could have ended at Angie's party. If you had just sat there and she says she sat there calmly and Lisa blew it up while you were accusing her. So of course she did. You didn't ask her. You just accused her. And she still thinks that she's in the right.

And she still thinks that this is all truthful. It's just, it's getting really tiresome. The whole Whitney thing. Just Whitney in general is actually getting very tiresome this year. She's a background character as far as I'm concerned. I everything else that's going on I'm interested in when that keeps popping up in the middle of a main storyline I get annoyed I don't need this Whitney side quest anymore no good on it we've solved we've solved it and the answer is no one cares anymore and thank God at the end of the episode she's even like we could move on from the Ali Baba thing I'm like thank the Lord good yeah seriously because we've been done with it but I've put my work in yeah I earned my paycheck but in between we get a little cutscene of the necklace as she decided on the four million dollar necklace which is insane to me i can't wrap my head around owning anything worth four million

dollars especially a piece of jewelry but it might as well be handcuffs based on this relationship because that's the only vibe i'm getting now and i'm not trying to disparage a marriage and we don't know you know we're getting what we're seeing week to week on the show but what i do know is especially when we talk about it later and maybe i'll save it for the dinner party yeah i mean just i'll save it for them you can lump it together right now honestly because i i had the same thought all right i'll lump it together now the way that she discusses her own marriage the way that they disparage it and they try to make jokes about it the black card you know when they're playing the the newlywed game and the sex question it's like whatever position as long as we don't talk afterwards i'm and he goes

away a lot so i don't have to see him it's like you're painting the picture of you're buried him for money. You're painting the picture of he doesn't like being around you. And like I said, you're painting the picture of this $4 million necklace might as well be handcuffs because this doesn't seem like a fun relationship. And again, we're taking it at face value. We've seen seven episodes of these two together. I don't know the dynamics of their day to day or what their relationship is actually like. I do know what it's being portrayed like. And I do know that the audience as a whole is not really big on it. And the way that Todd talks in this whole trope of it's a different generation. They talked differently back then is horseshit.

That's not an excuse to be a dickhead to your wife. And I'll never stand for that. It's never acceptable to talk down to your spouse or somebody you care about just because you don't have time for it. And she goes and she said, this is kind of how Todd is. And the fact that she can even say, I was so concerned that these women were going to embarrass me. And instead, it was Todd that embarrassed me. So she does feel these things. She tries to brush it off like, oh, that's just our dynamic.

It's not a big deal. You get people in the comments saying you just don't understand. Someone even went as far to say, you guys have clearly never been around like serious businessmen. Yeah, we fucking have. And no, they don't talk to people like that. It's not an excuse to be a piece of shit to your wife. It never will be.

I'll never be okay with that. The more I'm seeing of it, the less I care for it. And I don't really want to see it. And that's the end thing for me. If they want to continue to be on the show, if Bronn wants to continue to be a housewife, which she should, she's fantastic. keep Todd out.

I don't need any more Todd. He doesn't want to be on the show. Don't force him on the show. This is one relationship that we don't need to see the ins and outs of. Because whatever's going on, they're okay with it. Fine. I don't like watching it. I don't like having a grumpy old curmudgeon in the background playing Oscar the Grouch the whole time.

It's fucking boring. It's annoying. Yeah, no, I fully agree. And then they ask him at the end of the episode, too. Would you ever do this again? And he said absolutely not. So, you know, that's a microcosm for the entire show. would you ever do this show again would you ever sit here and do this no all right well then go away just just go away

if you guys are okay with this is if this is a business transaction of a marriage fine you know how many of those exist in the world whatever i don't care if you don't want to talk about it go on it's just really uncomfortable to watch and i don't think the brahm would did herself any any favors at that dinner party too talking about it and playing that game i mean we're miserable but beautiful yeah it's just she everything that she said about their marriage about their relationship We already had a discussion with you in Milwaukee about the pre-nup. Do you really want to call more attention to it by saying those weird things about how you guys feel about each other and the way that you're having sex or not having sex and not talking afterwards and that your favorite thing about him is his black card? We haven't seen a really good relationship scene with the two of you.

So when you say my favorite thing about him is his black card and we're supposed to sit there and laugh, that's reserved for good relationship. because we know you're goofing around. This one's serious and it's like, all right, he keeps his head down in the middle of a dinner party for their anniversary, miserable, and you just keep going on and on and on about how bad the relationship is. So what are we supposed to think?

I don't want to sit here and discuss the ins and outs of your relationship if it's not something fun and beautiful and that everybody should have. You know, it's just keep it away and just let's not talk about it anymore. But other than that, you're also drawing attention to it. You get into a fight with somebody else on this show. They're going to come right back at you for that. We already know that it's a soft spot for you. We already know that we can get a rise

out of you by doing it. Brittany did it and she fucked you up. Brittany brought it up of all people on this cast in Milwaukee and you were worked up about it. What are you going to do if you're at odds with Lisa Barlow? If you're at odds with Meredith and she comes after you like that, you're already at odds with Heather. If this gets back to her, she can poke holes wherever the hell she wants. and that's going to be able to throw you off your game. I just, she impresses me so much every week for a new housewife with the things that she does.

And then she'll do something like that. And I'm like, oh, man, you just made it so much harder for yourself moving forward. You gave them so much ammunition by doing something like that. And you don't even realize it. But that's where you got to give her some grace as the newbie, you know,

because I don't think she knows that. And I think that for me, it's a defense mechanism. If I put my, my psychology hat on for a second, I think it's a defense mechanism, Because if she disparages the relationship, she takes the ammo away from other people. Maybe that's her thought process where it's like, I know you guys are going to say.

So she does it first. That's kind of the vibe that I get out of it. But like you said, all it's actually doing is giving them ammo. Because now when you try to defend yourself, it's much easier for Brittany to now say, let's talk about your marriage. She said that before. I don't think Brittany's going to be able to do that. No, no, no.

I just more mean it's interesting that Brittany said that before with no, no, knowledge of what the relationship was actually like it was just solely based on the age gap which we don't give a shit about age gaps on either side if you're older and younger who fucking cares but what you did is confirm or you're you're giving inklings of confirming yeah there's some holes here and like you said it's not so much are you drinking a beer right now a little hair of the dog is that is that what's happening uh who's like i respect it leave this in, by the way, because this is great. I'm going to.

This pop. I was like, I told you. I can't keep hydrating. I need something else. So this will, maybe this will help. You're drinking a Coca-Cola. Hey, respect. Coke zero.

But yeah, I think you're right. I think that it's a newbie misstep. I think she's trying to make light of it. And I think what she's actually doing, you don't, you do not need to give ammo to the likes of Meredith Marks, Lisa Barlow, and Heather Gay. Because they're salty vets at this point. They do know how to play the game. And they do take things.

and they hold on to him. Lisa will undoubtedly just blurt it out when she gets upset. Meredith will wait for the opportune time to do it, and Heather will use it in a conversation with somebody else to set them up against. That's the play from all three of them, and that's what you have to look forward to now, and it's going to sting a whole lot more coming from them. But we do have to finalize the Justin thing,

and we finally do, thank God. And Lisa, or sorry, Whitney just flat out asked Lisa, do you still think that Justin knows you? An apology, she says yes. Bronman's over it. Everyone else at the table is over it. Justin defends his reaction, but does at least say, because we can agree, did you come a little too hard, Big Jay? You did. You took a step towards her, you cussed at her, you lost your composure.

Do I understand why you lost your composure? Absolutely. That's why there's apologies that need to be had on both sides. Which the only thing is, Justin, you are going to have to be the first one to apologize, which he was. And then Lisa is going to tack on to it just to squash it. That's what we've seen time and time again. Is the apology from Lisa genuine? No, probably not.

But we can at least put this to pet and at least move on from this stupid argument of her calling Whitney a liar. And look, they're all liars. We know that. Everyone in the show fucking lies. The only difference is with Whitney, she truly believes that anything she believes is true. which is so frustrating, but it's squashed. You should be looked at. Do you still have your psychiatrist hat on?

It's a psychology hat, and no, it, it's like a power up. It dissipates after like 30 seconds. I can only have it on for so long because that's fair. Yeah, you know, I do what I can. But Meredith decides that, and this is, this is what's interesting about this trip, is when something comes up, everyone decides that they need to jump into to get their 10 cents out about whatever they're upset with. And Meredith takes an opportunity to go, all right, well, hey, Sean, I didn't appreciate the fact that you used my son against me.

And if we do break this whole thing down, all right, let's break it down, let's simplify. He went on a podcast, again, I don't know why, but he did go on a podcast. And what he said amidst the rumors that he was gay is that Meredith uses her son's sexuality and the LGBTQ community in general to deflect for. things specifically in this instant because she was talking about Sean potentially being gay or perpetuating that rumor whether she claimed she was perpetuating it or not

she certainly was we watched what she did she didn't flat out say it but she set it up so she then was using her relationship with the LGBT community to act like of course I wouldn't say this look what I do for the glad awards and all these other things I'm very involved in this community and I can see

where he's coming from for sure yeah did he at the same time say her son? He did. So yes, you kind of did use her son. You didn't flat out say Brooks, but you know what you were doing. And yes, Meredith did seem to use that to point to the fact that, of course, I wouldn't spread somebody being gay because of my work with the LGBTQ community. That's what I took from it. Yeah, no, I fully agree. And I think that if he hadn't mentioned Brooks at all, if he hadn't mentioned her son and just said, it is very, very wild to me that she's able to perpetuate a rumor like that about me and try to throw a wedge in my marriage or try to throw some sort of some, I guess, I don't know, whatever, public knowledge

about what's going on between me and Angie and our marriage and you're going to insinuate that I'm gay. And in the same week, two week period, you're going to start posting things about LGBTQ community and all your support for them. It is a little weird. That's all you have to do in something like that. But again, this is why husbands don't get involved. Get off the goddamn podcast. Just stop. Just stop doing it because you don't know what you're doing and you always put

your foot in your mouth. And as soon as he went on last year amidst everything to defend himself, fine. It's like because somebody brought that up. Well, you had John Food on your podcast. Yeah, he was the main storyline at the time. We gave him a platform to discuss it. If Sean went on last year to defend himself, I would have no issues. but he waited a whole year to do it.

And that's where I'm like, all right, it's too little too late. And then you did take a shot at those parts. Yeah, then you bring him one of the kids. So no, you just can't do anything like that. And I agree with you. I see where he's coming. It was terrible, terrible execution, never bring in the kids. And also, you did it.

You said it. So don't deny it in that moment. You know what I mean? Like, if you know what you said and they all do it. We all talk about these podcasts that they go on or the things that they say in media, they always deny things that there are receipts for, which is so funny to me. I understand if you say, I don't remember it that way, but maybe I did mention that, fine. But don't fully deny that you didn't say it.

Like, it just, you did. So you're caught immediately. Meredith's son, her son. And to be fair, I get his beef with Meredith. I don't know why Meredith thinks that this is just over. This is what happens at all of these shows. Meredith just assumes it's over because we've had some cordial nightstands. together where, you know, there's no issues.

No, Sean thought it was over. Meredith brought it back up. He was like, I thought we were cool. He goes, my biggest pet peeve is the fact that I thought this was squashed. And now you're bringing it back up. And she keeps just repeating, I highly apologized for something I didn't do. You can't just keep saying you didn't do it. And that make it true.

And also apologize. Yeah, because it's a half-assed apology. And I appreciate that Sean didn't flat out like, accept it. He was like, I'm still not cool with it, but I'm happy to move on from this because we've had some fun nights with you. I want to have some more fun nights with you. So there needs to be a bridge forward. I don't think Meredith's going to do that. I would imagine this is going to be a sticking point. But nothing is as bad as the fact that Seth decides to get involved pulls up a headline from a reality blog that says something along the lines of

Sean Trujillo, he can't even pronounce his last name. Sean Trujillo. He says like Trulito. No, he says Sean Trulilo. Yep. Yeah. Is what he said. And it says something about Meredith's son.

And it's just very black and white and does point to all he did was disparage Brooks Marks, which is not what happened. and goes proof beauch to Whitney and I was like whoa whoa the funny thing was Whitney was saying we need proof we love proof here we need proof she's just making a joke from earlier when everybody was saying we need proof from you Whitney which you never gave us any proof so it is very ironic that you're now doing this but yeah she wasn't really involved you weren't the person who was doing no he calls her a bitch.

It's the brunt of it, I know. It's like, Jesus. I know he said biotch, and so it takes a little bit of the stank off it. Yeah. This is your time, Justin. Now you jump in and go, no, motherfucker. Don't you call my wife a bitch. That's when you jump in.

You want me to pound your ass? Yeah, I'll pound your ass right now. He's about to get his ass pounded at this table, everybody, and you're all going to see it. That's when you, Thrust and Justin returns. Get back in the fight, pal. now you can yell at a husband now it's sanctioned this is a sanctioned fight you can actually jump in but instead he sits there quietly Whitney goes to a confessional like I'm doing everything I can have to jump down this man's throat and the funniest thing is Seth thinks he's got the smoking gun it's not if you had the quote that's something we can latch on to read the quote that's what the people at table point out like this is not the smoking gun that you think it is read the quote and then you have something and you can be like see you mentioned our son

instead you just read the headline that didn't land for me that's not a receipt where you can go prove be itch and yell at the table in this moment if todd was like i'm fucking done i would have understood then i'd be like i get it buddy get out of here yeah but even he didn't speak go to that you're probably really sleepy this is way past your bedtime that you're used to like the blue plate special so but it was it was it was well that was my limit that was my official limit for husband's i'm yeah i'm not done because we've now started to step into the jersey territory of over-involvement drama being created by the husbands i get defending your wives when you start to jump in and are actively going after the other housewives that's when i have a problem when you're calling housewives biches i have a problem tone it down set don't deflect because meredith is mad at you and you have to leave tomorrow even though you're leaving an hour earlier but just shut up set shut up take your phone and go away and it ends with grumpy todd again this one's a little bit more nuanced i suppose but the way he shuts it down was my biggest problem because angie and she being angie trying

to light in the mood you know hey i heard some good news glens reconnecting no she's not shut the fuck up this is not happening i'm not having this fucking conversation we're done brahwin tries to interject i said we're done that was my i was like dude fuck you buddy don't talk you're literally like how do you not understand that she was doing it from a good place i mean i guess like yeah you like you said it is a little more nuanced because maybe he's defending gwenies i get it it it's a sensitive subject sure and i think he's just like he knows that these women are just kind of picking it everything right now And he probably has no idea what the dynamic is between everybody because he just doesn't care.

I don't think he's sitting there saying, how are you and Angie? How are you in Lisa? How are you and Heather? So he's probably thinking maybe Angie's bringing that up to try to talk a little bit more about it and have it be like more of an issue. And he doesn't want to deal with it. That's where he was drawing the line. So if he didn't turn to Bronwyn and say no, but you have to have some sort of fucking awareness and be like, yeah, no, she thought that it was a good thing. sorry as soon as she said sorry it's like it's not a big deal like we're not going to talk about

this though we're already kind of dealing with it whatever let's move on like that's all you have to do you don't have to lash out of people you don't have to do that I know that you're preparing your wife in front of the whole party at her fucking 10 year and you don't Todd doesn't care about the 10 year anniversary party this isn't for him it's for her so just fucking grin and bear one time I don't care if you're serious business man like fucking just shut up and like take it and then all she was trying to do Bronwyn was say at the very least like Lisa is kind of caught in the middle here it's a little awkward for her but she's she's coming from a good place Todd doesn't want to hear it he says I'm done I said I'm done

I'm like you're you're a cranky little bitch go to bed go to bed stay off the show like you don't need to be on here like it's fine we're good without you the rest of the cast is doing just fine take the other husbands and go away please oh hi buddy who's the best You are. I wish I could spend all day with you instead. Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers.

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Thermal is definitely a place. We get to go a little indie car. This was sick. This is like cool housewife shit. Because you know that booth at the thermal race was probably an unreasonable amount of money to sit there and watch cars go by for a while. But it was cool. They got to meet one of the drivers. They instantly hit on this guy who is married with a young child and made it very apparent.

And they're all like, oh, rats. And all the husbands are like, yeah. just getting cucked in real time, but you're standing in the background. J.B. is just like, yeah, this guy is hot. He's 20 years younger than me. He can take a shirt off. That's all right.

Take a shirt off. Yeah. Come on bad. Pop it up. Joseph, take your fucking shirt off. John wants to see you take your shirt off. God. The only thing that really happens is like Bronwyn and Lisa try to talk.

They can because it's too loud. And they get back to the house. And Sean and Angie are discussing after Seth, and the biotches thing and that was my takeaway from it too was like i i feel like we didn't really dive into the fact that yes he said biotch but he did direct biotch at a woman at the table which is not that cool and he should be talked to about it but it's kind of brushed off and then whitney and just enjoying this conversation which they don't need to and i know whitney was the one that it was pointed at but this is just extra ammo for her and i'm here you know that

she's going to take it and she she has a right obviously to be upset about it i get that i get justin if he has a right to be upset about it what i'm concerned about is that this is going to turn into a seven eight episode thing where we're constantly coming back to the same thing and this could be easily squashed with the conversation and i hope that's what happens down the line i don't see that happening i don't i don't think i don't think we're going to get that i don't think so i think that there, I think that now at the end of the episode, when Whitney even says, you know, we can kind of put this whole thing to bed about the Alibaba thing, I think we're good. I think anything else that happened on this trip, I think we're going to move on.

Obviously, there's lingering issues with Lisa and Brahmin. There's lingering issues with Heather, who's not even there. I don't think that Whitney is going to make this part a sticking point. At least I hope not. Maybe I'm just speaking into existence. So, yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. You know what? It's not going to happen.

But the fact that Whitney, of all people, can say, I'm so tired of things going away and then they come back up and then it goes away and it comes back up. I'm like, you do this all the time. You can't, you're the problem. You don't let things go. It comes back up because you either heard something new or you haven't spoke about your fillings yet. And we got to hear about your fillings some more. Like, you're the one that does this shit. So don't do it this time.

You just called it out. And Justin calls out, when did the husbands get involved? I don't know, Jay, but you still are. You're part of the problem, too. You keep speaking up at dinner. Shut the fuck up. Just take it. Who cares?

Like, honestly, if Lisa's mad at you, who cares? Are you friends with Lisa? Are you friends with John? You're friends with John. So go be friends with John. Lisa doesn't have to like you. Go get some smashed potatoes. Go play some cornhole.

Yes. Go through the husband stuff off screen where we just kind of pan across and we just see that you guys are at least having a good. time. That's all we want. We want to see a couple of cheers, eating some smashed potatoes with the boys. That's it. That's all I need from you guys. I don't need anything else. Todd doggy paddling across the pool on his floaties. A couple of those. I'm good. We're good. So hopefully, hopefully this is both of them actually saying we're done. I do not believe that to be true. There's no fucking way. But I hope that that is the limit.

We get to see Seth off all I'm going to say between these two. They're hanging by a thread. Okay. This is not good. It's not good because on one hand, he did delay the trip. He delayed, you're leaving shortly after. So the fact that she's still kind of upset about that made no sense. The fact that she's upset he's not going to be home for five days, fine.

Yeah, I think he sprung it on her. This is the problem. I think that he didn't tell her. Hey, by the way, I'm not. going to have to go back and maybe it's one of those jobs where they don't tell you what you're doing and then your schedule pops up and all of a sudden you got to go so that's a possibility but his main problem here is no communication and apparently this happened before so it looks like it's happening again and we don't like it we don't want it to happen no we're hanging by a

thread right now and this again the the evidence is damning of their own doing you know by naming your podcast that it's a red flag we said that last year when you guys were apparently working through it like it's a weird thing to name your podcast if you guys are doing better now and fast forward it's not looking great things are grim in the marks household at the moment but we finally get the conversation between lisa and bronwyn and it's even funnier when we see the whole thing play out because she sets it up like i need to find out because i want to believe that lisa isn't a two-faced bitch we know that the confessionals are filmed a few weeks after and then when we watch what happens in this conversation i was like oh that was a direct shot at lisa from what

happens during this conversation she did a little foreshadowing yep but as they're talking lisa's big sticking point is heather's feelings i'm trying to hear heather's feelings she called me very upset and you know i heard her out you did you're right but if you're you If you claim to be that close with Bronwyn, you owe her the same grace of that same conversation. That's what Bronwyn is trying to say. She's saying that when Heather left, I was in tears, which we did witness. Were they real tears? I don't know.

That's always a question mark on these shows. Real tears are not, not positive. What I do know is if you are that close with Bronwyn, you do deserve to give her the same attention. Just by saying, all right. and that's all she says she is could not be more black and white laying it out in front of Lisa this is so easy Lisa she literally says I'm lowering the bar so far that you're going to trip over it Bronwyn's good with words too by the oh yeah prom one's wordplay yeah but she is the bar is non-existent just say even if you're lying I don't think you're a two-faced

bitch period and you can continue to be friends because as you made very clear at the dinner party when you saw her necklace and brahman points it out is this why you're friends with me yes because you have the house to go to in palm springs on vacation because you can rent a twenty thousand dollar a night house because you have a four million dollar necklace because you take a private jet all of those reasons are exactly why she wants to be friends with you and i'm sorry it took this long to figure it out and that does suck but hopefully after this conversation what we get from it What I'm really hoping for because Lisa even says a confessional, I do think you're a two-faced pitch.

I think we might get the full-on rise of Bronwyn because you need this to happen. This happens in most shows of newbies. They get comfortable. They think they have friends. They get flattened. Look at Jen and OC. You think that you got a crew and then you get smoked and then you get the out of the ashes rises the Phoenix. I think that we're going to see Bronwyn take a step forward and be on our own team.

not rely on Lisa, not worry about the fact that Heather doesn't like her. She's going to form her own team behind her because if you get Bromwin with Angie Kay, that's a formidable team. And that's all you need because you'll get Whitney tagging along sometimes. So you get Mary coming over. Yeah, who knows what those two are going to end up doing at the end of the day. But yeah, I thought that Bromwin did a great job of staying on point and actually pointing out specifically what Lisa did that bothered her,

which is something that we don't get in a lot of arguments on these shows. She showed us exactly what the issue is, and it makes plain sense to all of us. Every single one of us watching at home understands why Bronwyn's feelings are hurt. And Lisa is just not coming anywhere near her, and the confessional is a knell in the coffin immediately. That just shows me that you are not, a lot of times we look at Lisa Barlow and we say, well, you know what? She's unapologetically herself, like when she goes through the whole coach thing about the plane ride home. Like, that is unapologetically Lisa Barlow. I love this.

But this part, usually we want to give her the benefit of the doubt. Well, maybe that's not the right phrase. But saying, all right, this is just Lisa. Like, she has no idea where you're coming from because this is how she operates and she has no idea how to see the other side. But she is actually seeing the other side of this going to a confessional and saying, yeah, I do think you're two-faced. So she's just omitting all of that by not even coming to an agreement with you. Bromwin laid out the biggest olive branch I've ever seen in my life. If Lisa had just said, you know what, I'm sorry.

I neglected your feelings and I went to Heather. And then I shouldn't have FaceTime Heather. That was really stupid. She wasn't invited on this trip. They could have moved on and we wouldn't talk about this anymore. But instead, that olive branch was just kind of slapped away. Like, no, I'm not going to do this. Bromwin made it the easiest opportunity for you and you didn't want to take it.

So that means you're drawing your line in the sand and you're going to move forward like this. And you're going to immediately think that Bramun put you in coaching. on purpose. I think that that's just a coincidence. I think she did that for everybody, but really fucking funny that that's a byproduct from all of this. It's hysterical. It's incredible. But yeah, I thought the Brahman handled herself so well in this. And this is probably the first time the last three seasons that we've seen Lisa actually just get hung out to dry. This is what I need from you. Can you do this? I'm going to talk around in circles. I'm going to just explain my part of it 50 times in a row using a slightly different words and then ask for a hug at the end of it not

going to fly this time because brahman's seeing through all of it and you're not going to be able to move on from this and just say yeah no we're good we had a conversation you can't just pull a whitney and say yeah no we're good we don't have to talk about this anymore you can't just say nope we're good we already decided everything no it's just not going to work that way no and watching the whole coach debacle was and people have been like oh that's so stuck up it's like no that's housewives this is what i want to see that part was great i don't fly coach i haven't flown coach since college. Granted, you got a free trip, private jet, free housing, free food, free booze, private

dinners, and you got a free ticket home on a 45-minute plate. Like, no, I don't think that she was taking it. She paid for all of your tickets. You're all sitting in coach. It's not like everyone else is in first class. There's four first-class tickets and the rest of you are in coach. Yep. Did she plan it?

Maybe. And I hope that comes out one day that she's like, I had first class for everybody. And then I was like, fuck that because of Lisa. They're all sitting back there. That'd be a great move. I also love that Lisa gets so bent out of shape about it because in the beginning, Henry's doing so good.

I can't wait to go see Henry. What do you mean I'm flying coach? Well, if we fly to L.A., at least we can go first class. Henry's fine. Yeah, what was that? Henry's fine. I didn't understand that. I thought they were going to drive to L.A.

and then fly out. No, they're going to fly. Oh, is that what you? Maybe. Maybe that was it. But regardless. Coach. Yeah, whatever.

Regardless, on one hand, You're concerned about being away from Henry for so long. On the other hand, Henry's fine as long as you get to fly first class. And it's not because she wants to sit first class for comfort. She cannot be seen in coach. That's it. It's image.

I will not be seen with the common folk. I'm not going to be sitting next to Steele and his daughter flying back and forth from Texas. That's ridiculous. I sit first class with champagne flutes. That's all she's saying. And I just, that was a peak housewives like, ah, yes, here we are. This is what I need to argue about. Coach your first class, driving to L.A. to avoid sitting in coach so you don't get seen in coach because that's embarrassing.

It's like when, when little bow wow, remember that he tweeted a picture of a private jet that he was flying out on a private jet. And then somebody was sitting next to him in coach on like an American Airlines. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Bellw did a lot of those things, though. He was doing that thing where he was walking on the street like, oh my God, they don't know who I am. they don't even recognize me it's like they don't they just don't know who you are they don't know who you are yeah like mike was a long time ago buddy that's okay you know yep that was a great time for you and i loved like mike yeah oh man they know how many times i dreamed of like

finding a shoe at a garage sale with like mike and be like oh guess what it worked motherfucker. Let's get to some questions. He set me up. I put on my dad's jockstrap and I immediately had his talent. Oh, God. Anywho, let's get to some questions. Yeah, we'll do a couple of quick ones here

since we've got a... Yeah, we've got to meet Ryan Bailey on a, on a Zoom call here in about three minutes. So look forward to that episode. It's guys night. from Simply Oni. If Jen Shaw comes back, do you think Heather would bow down to be the number two

or fight for number one? I don't think Heather is number one right now, Lisa is. Lisa's number one. Heather's not even close to top two or three at the moment. I don't think. She hasn't been involved enough.

She hasn't been on the last two episodes. Yeah, she hasn't really done enough for me. I'm always hopeful for a Heather comeback. Like, I think that she's great for this show. I think she's got it in her. And she'll have a resurgence. And, you know, whether you love her or hate her, she's always she's key to this show but right now she's not number one i would argue that

bondman is is vying for that spot angie k is buying for that spot leases if she is number one she's hanging by a thread uh but i also i i don't think that jent shaw can come back this isn't like a teresa thing where teresa got involved with her husband's misdoings this is jen shaw robbing old people like i don't think you need to bring that back uh uh Let's see here. Oh, I like this one from Mary Had a Little. Do we think Brahman came on this show to expose her marriage and feel validated? I don't know.

I think time will tell on that one. Yeah, I don't know the season goes. I'm leaning no on that one just because I can't imagine doing that. Like, that's not, it's not something that I can ever imagine. So I'm going to go with no right now. But if it is, who knows? Who knows? Time will tell.

Oh, we forgot to. mentioned the mediocre tequila comment from Livetate is Vita tequila mediocre can shoot or do a taste test. Yes, he can I'll buy the bottle for you and we'll do a taste test. In a couple of weeks. Not we. Shooter needs to dry out. Yeah, he needs, he's not looking.

Actually, you look pretty good. I'll give you that. You do not look like you've been in a bachelor party for days. Thank you. You're welcome. But yes, I'll make sure he drinks it. Don't worry. We'll have some fun with that. Yeah. We'll do one more from Christy Jeddickie.

Are there any circumstances where the bros would yell biach not at a woman no no 1,000% at shooter yeah i i probably have honestly be i don't know i would never say that in in my shooter wouldn't i could say it ironically at you i could see myself doing that it was ironically sure seriously yeah absolutely not genuinely no i don't think i've ever said biots genuinely i'm thinking my vocabulary no set thought he was firing all cylinders he was that was his moment. And I think that was, he's the kid that peaked in high school there. It's like, oh, yeah. Yay. Nice job, Seth. You fucking dork. Anyway, we got to go talk to Ryan Bailey. So be on a lookout for that episode. We're doing a crossover with him. We love, love doing Ryan Bailey

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