Bros & Shows - The Shamea and Porsha Feud Begins (RHOA Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

What's up Bros? RHOA is about halfway finished and we're happy with what they've done this season. In this episode, Angela starts to move some pieces around strategically. Ralph is apparently the newest addition to the cast when he sits down with Shamea and Porsha. Although it appears Shamea just wanted to do some digging, but we doubt Drew will love it. Brit is still struggling to find her spot on this show and her act is already tired in our opinion. Angela sits down with Porsha and lets her know Shamea does not want to be recognized as her lap dog. When Shamea gets wind of Porsha talking bad about their friendship to Angela, she feels betrayed. Things blow up at the Pampered event during a meditation when Shamea shares how she feels about the whole situation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. Ralph has had entirely too much screen time this year. yeah and everything he does seems rehearsed it seems like there's some choreographer in the background just telling him what to do with his hands and how much to smile it's just it's so fake i just don't buy into it when they recasted the show i didn't realize that he got a peach he did get a peach he definitely got a peach and it fits in well with his shirtless look Bro's and shows, bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and on the Georgia Goots. What's up, Bill? Georgia Gooots feels right. Ah, yeah, that feels nice. You know, it doesn't feel nice is Ralph. Ralph, no. Go away. Yeah, that's what we were to say it, but I agree. Metaphorically speaking, it doesn't feel.

That's what I was talking about. I was clarifying. Yeah, emotionally, it doesn't feel right. I just don't understand. I didn't realize that he was going to be such an integral part of this season. And even when he's on the screen, like what they're disgusting, I'm like, do we really need to have Ralph's opinion? We don't. I think the overall vibe is and could be important just because we've had a Drew all season that refuses to just address it.

Sure. So this is a good way to. sort of like a spark plug it's just we have to get through this scene to be able to get to the other side do you think that he's going to be at the reunion no i don't think so i don't know based on all this you think he'll get invited is probably a better question yeah yeah all right i'll probably go he's already drew will sing to him again he's had as many confessionals as half the cast yeah that's a good point he's had the same amount of cynthia which is awful yeah it's Darry.

Cynthia should replace Brit. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But I do, I mean, she's done a good job this season in her friend-of role and doing what she's doing. I don't even know if she's officially a friend of, but. She's like a sheep herder. Well, I mean, she's doing a great job.

It's like you check in with the OG to see what the temperature is, you know, and like where people are making their pitfalls, things like that. Also known as a shepherd. I don't know why I just did that. Yeah. It's kind of stupid. It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay. I knew what you're getting at. It's the good shepherd. Yeah, the good shepherd. But let's jump in and we start out with Kelly. discussing her ex who is Chloe's dad and they are besties. So we heard about her other ex-husband who she's more recently getting divorced from. Is that right? Yes. Okay. I'm confused. Didn't didn't Chloe talk about how her relationship with her dad was kind of fucked up? I think so. I was

thinking of the same thing. I think we got an interesting perspective from Chloe about her dad. But now they're BFFs or is that somebody else? Oh, I think that Kelly is saying that her and her ex are BFFs. her ex, Chloe's dead. They're co-parenting best friends right now. But we have issues with the dad. We have issues with the most recent ex. Okay. The most recent ex.

Oh, right, right, right. She came in when she was two. Yeah, and Chloe did say something earlier in the season where, you know, she feels a little estranged from her father. Right. But Kelly didn't really weigh in on that. And now we find out that her and her ex, I guess, are co-parenting and their best friends, which, you know,

we always root for. But, you know, this is, we don't get a lot of this on Bravo. When teenagers are actually teenagers And I know Chloe says that to some extent At some point I just want to be a teenager We usually get the very mature, very You know, introspective teenagers That don't really make any sense

She did that two weeks ago She did that two weeks ago But every once in a while When they are actual teenagers that are like Yeah, I just don't feel like dealing with my dad Jumped down my neck about, you know Not getting high A's on every test that I have Yeah, normal

Okay, that seems normal I vibe with that But they're talking about the new house That they're going to buy because they're currently in a townhouse and they're waiting for her old house to sell. Then they're going to have some capital, go buy a new house. But that's when Chloe says. I just want to be a teenager.

Can't be bothered with all this stuff. And then we get to a scene with Shamiah and Ralph having dinner. Yeah. What the fuck? Why not? Because I don't need to see it. No, I definitely don't need to see it. And this is what I'm talking about.

Going through a scene like this, Ralph is so rehearsed. Oh, yeah. everything he does is so fake and it's just so obvious. Like just have some sort of authenticity while you're talking to somebody else and maybe I'll believe what you're doing. Well, he's an inauthentic person. He's very inauthentic. So you're asking a lot of somebody that doesn't probably know who he is.

Yeah. I feel like the most truthful that we've seen Ralph this year is after that court hearing that we saw when he was elated by destroying, potentially destroying his ex's life. Right. And still living in the basement. That was a big victory for him. Podcast basement apparently. that's what he's saying he wants shemia to potentially be involved in his new podcast kings and queens

which is family feud meets battle of the sexes it makes no fucking sense what a game show i i don't know it's not a podcast like that's my whole thing i know that there's video podcasts yeah but is that what you're doing not you are you involved i am involved oh shit i'm a king i'm jumping ship king shooter king shoots mgoots olden court yeah you're the host of uh Kings and Queens. Yeah. I didn't really understand. I just kind of laughed.

Anything he says, any sort of business, because we still don't really know to this day what he actually does for a job. Drew doesn't either. Yeah. How does he bring in any money?

What's he doing down in that basement? God only knows. Apparently building a podcast studio. He's holding a Louie and building a podcast studio in the basement. Oh, fuck. I forgot about that.

Remember that fucking podcast studio. God, we're going to talk about affirmations. You guys want to come into, and we're going to do a recording of, we're going to talk about why we love our wives. And then nobody will question whether or not I'm an asshole.

Yeah, God, I love my wife I love her so much Oh my God You gotta get closer to the mic Talk as close to the mic Erdniko Teresa, I love you I love you so much

How did we get here? Thanks Ralph God damn it But it turns out That Shimea's got another agenda Coming into this You know, she wants to get the dirt On Drew and Dennis

Finally I know we finally have someone Trying to figure this whole thing out That's why I'm not really that upset about it Like yes Anytime you put Ralph on screen We're gonna audibly groan but I understand what Shimea is doing

so I support it I do too this is the goal for it that I support it I still think it's gonna rub I don't know Drew might actually be like one person that'll brush this off I think Drew is gonna brush it off she's gonna feel some type of way about it but

Towards Porsche yeah towards Porsche Not Chamia I think she's gonna put on a front and act like it's a good way for her to also get information because she doesn't know what Ralph's doing now then so it's like oh you're telling me this like that's news to me that's good to No, thanks for that.

She'll act that she's in on it. She'll be like, you're such a good friend by finding out what Ralph is up to, so I don't have to face him directly. But in reality, she's like, fuck. Yeah, but fuck you, Portia. Like six more episodes. We have six more episodes to go until I finally deal with this. You guys need to let it lie.

It's working. I know, but we do find out a little bit more about Drew and Ralph's scenario, because after three months he proposed, they were married in five months, and they were pregnant in eight months. Sounds like a recipe for success. Clearly. quite clearly they didn't rush anything but they start to same timeline that jesse and lexie were on yeah pretty much but they start talking about the portia denis drew scenario that's why shimia is

here we're trying to get some dirt on this whole thing and ralph calls it inappropriate and then says at least dennis reached out to me which was respectful he's big on like saying respect like respect i think he could have gone either way i think he was waiting to see what shmia thought about it before i do too yeah i think he was like he was lunging across the table To say how much he respected it. I'm like, I do you? Yeah, I don't, I just, he always brings up respect. And I'm like, that's funny because you don't seem to have any for other people.

But he brings up, isn't Drew working for Portia? It's like, you know. Yeah, this is the rehearsal. Like, he sets everything up, man. And in that moment, Porsche arrives. And Ralph's like, I had no idea, Porsche was going to be here. It's like, yeah, you did. You know.

You definitely knew. Why do we have to go to a confessional for Ralph to say, I didn't know Porsche was going to be there? if we didn't get it from the actual scene, then clearly you don't need to explain it. I don't need that. It looks like you were anticipating her arrival. There was another seat there. And you were turned facing the door.

I didn't care enough to go back, but I'm pretty sure there's probably another place mat there for somebody to sit there. So you knew this was going to happen. Oh, interesting. I think I need to go back. If I cared enough, I would have gone back. I'm probably going to go back and look.

That one I want to find out. But, you know, Ralph's paying. And they're like, the fun. I know. I know. but I thought he started sweating like when they're both like going through he's like ha ha ha oh god don't get that

yeah they didn't even need to like alter the editing I live in a basement yeah come on but you can look at that as like he's saving money he's not paying for rent in the basement that's a good point we could also look at it like I can't afford my own place I'm living in my ex-wife's basement

not very liquid right now that's it that's definitely what he says I'm not liquid right now everything's investments yeah I left all of my money at the last tech conference I went to have you seen my lanyard it's uh i think i left it in the hotel room there was nobody else in the hotel room well maybe there was i don't know but he clearly doesn't get the vibe of like what's going on says let's get these ladies

some shots and they're like perhaps not like let's stick to the plan here because Porsche doesn't like husbands right now and he's going to catch a stray because of all of this which he deserves all the stray so have that it shouldn't even really be a stray no it's kind of just yeah you can just tell them what's up but i guess there's a text message that Porsche got. Dennis said, I told Drew I wouldn't fuck her and just run me my money.

Do you believe that Dennis said that to Drew? In that context, no. No. I think he probably said that. You think that he's not romantically interesting. So many ways, I think, well, let's make one thing very clear here.

I don't think there's much romance there. By romance, I mean boinking. Yes, this is just boing. Gentlemen, we say boinginging. I think that he probably said that at some point or insinuated that at some point. But there's probably like a paragraph in between and then it's then run me by money. So there's probably like some other context that Portia's holding out for obvious reasons. But yeah, I mean, if you're Dennis, you just put the whole thing on Drew, make her out to be the villain.

That's what he's doing. But Ralph's response is, well, Drew's out here in the streets. And Portia, I actually liked this move. It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Or was it Shemia or Portia? It doesn't matter. One of them checks him and goes, aren't the rumors, there's rumors about you, right?

And he's like, yeah, are they true? Long pause. Long pause. Commercial break, then another long. Very long pause. It wasn't even a fabricated long pause because I thought they did the commercial break thing, but then they show the actual scene. It's like, ooh.

They say, no. What? What are you talking about? You're crazy. He's specific, so I can tell you which ones are not real. Yeah, that's what it felt like. And then ignore the other one. Like which ones are you referring to?

Because there's a lot of rumors out here. But the money for, college gets off on the rumors too. Oh, he definitely likes the rumor because he thinks... He thinks that people are talking about him. Because clearly all he wants is... He would actually add to the rumors. Like, he would actually intentionally want them to be vague

so that he could add a little more context. Oh, yeah. That was a different time. Yeah, yeah. That didn't happen either, but I heard that one. Oh, no, no, no, no. Down Miami in the club when I was spending a lot of money? No, that wasn't me.

I wasn't, yeah. I don't have money. But I could feel like he would say, you know, someone brought up a room and be like, oh, no, I thought you were talking about this one and then make up a whole different one. They're like, wait, what? He's like, oh, I said too much, he, he, he. They like walks away.

Just josh and, but the money for college comment comes up where Drew's album is going to pay for Porsche's kid to go to college, which is disrespectful. Like, we can agree there. Yeah. Now, this is where it gets murky. Who filed? Ralph claims he filed because she had an affair with Ty. Drew beat him to the courthouse.

It was a race to the courthouse, and Drew filed first. Ralph tried to, but Drew jumped the gun and got there first, but he's referring to the affair with Ty. And the evidence that we get, if this is what the evidence is, that Drew told him with her mouth. That's what he says. She told me with her mouth. We get to this scene. I don't know if there's a different time that they discuss things, where it was more forward. But in this scene, Drew's pretty much describing a very close friend.

Yeah, it's. it must have been a different scene because I didn't really understand it it was providing context for me who completely forgot about the Thai storyline because it was just so uninteresting did not care about that at all but I don't know

yeah she probably confirmed it it seemed like she did you're believing Ralph I would say there's probably better video evidence from Atlanta than what the clip they chose of those two like hanging out and they looked a little flirty weren't they in the club that one night they were in the club that one night at the reunion she got pressed a little bit and kind of led on a little bit more.

This clip didn't really make any sense. This sounded like a close friend. Yeah, it's sort of like, the editors just kind of mailed this one. And I feel like, they're like, yeah, this is good. Yeah, sure. Chat GPT. Yeah, I don't. I hated last season.

I'm not going through all that. I don't blame them, honestly. But Porsche asks flat out, Ralph, did you cheat? Long pause again. No. Did you sniff other women? Weird. The way that he answers, so matter-of-factly,

That's not normal. No. Are you going around sniffing women? I'm not a dog. I don't do that either. That's a weird thing to do. And then too so enthusiastically be like, well, obviously I'm smelling other women. But that's not cheating.

Yeah. I just give them a hug and give a on the back of their hair. It wasn't one of those situations where he thought it was going to be kind of funny. Like, yeah. Sniff. Yeah. Sniff. Yeah.

Where do you sniff? Wasn't expecting a follow question, but I'll tell you. Just kidding. Let's move on. Yeah. Ha, ha. No, gross. What the fuck's going on?

But Shimea points out. She's like, I don't have any issues with Drew. My actual issue is with Angela, and that's when we get into like the Angela, Charles, Shamiya, Portia, all this shit. And Shemia is upset because they didn't move on, but Angela and Portia have tentatively moved on, you know, which is so funny because everything Angela does later is a total play. Strategically moved on. It was so good. But, yeah, I don't know. It's interesting to watch because I thought Shemps.

and Angela would squash it. I thought they would be fine. We said that last week, too, when they had to sit down. And, yeah, it doesn't really make a ton of sense that she was able to squash it. Now, I mean, it could just be one of those situations where it's not worth it to really get into it with Portia because you're not going to get anywhere. Right. And we, honestly, it took forever to even get to, like, a stalemate.

We just kind of, like, sort of apologize to each other and move on. Maybe she's holding Shamia a little bit more accountable because Angela really wants to be friends with Shemia and not Portia. Oh, okay, yeah. She's hoping that, like, they can really hash it out. There's something real there. housewife hash it out. But also, as we see later in the episode, this is all strategic.

Oh, yeah. Let me squash this so I can get a little more information from Porsche. And then barrier. Shameo over here, use Kelly. Boom, boom, boom. It's crazy that Angela has all these pieces set up and nobody saw it coming. I know. It's incredible housewife here.

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Stop wondering. Start winning. Winners, find fabulous for less. Shimea points out one thing, and I think this is important, and hopefully she takes it to heart. She's like, defending Portia seems to bring up animosity. It's like, mm-hmm, take note. And it's not just with Angela. All the other girls are pointing it out. Correct. Correct. But we get to Angela, who has five properties currently. She's flipping five houses. I loved the fact that she's flat out, like, I'm $2 million in debt. I need to move these houses.

Because usually it would be like, you know, I've got $10 million in capital still. These houses are just $2 million. Like she wouldn't have admitted the fact that she's in the hole right now. But Kelly comes over to clear the air, I guess. Angela's got a lot of shit with people, not really of her own doing. It all kind of leads back to that night at the pool. Kelly thing didn't really make much sense. Like she had not beef with her in the morning, but she was a little curt.

She was curt because she was upset in general. Not at Kelly. And then they tried to force this whole, like, whose baby is that when Kelly did that one-off comment last week? I don't think that Angela really even heard it or cared. I don't think she's too bothered by it. I think she more wants to... I don't think Angela cares about clearing the air. It feels to me like Kelly, which I appreciate because he need this on a cast, wants to be pretty cool with everybody.

I think that's pretty much what we saw here. I think that Kelly was a little worried. I think they're getting to a point now where they can see Angela has the upper hand in a lot of these arguments, and she will go for the throat and Kelly's not the type of person that wants to let that sit. So I think she just wants to be proactive and get ahead of it.

I think so too. Show a little bit of faith. Like, hey, we're friends, right? Yeah. All right, cool. And I like that. I don't mind that move at all. But as they're strolling around the house,

you know, she feels bad. She says for the Charles Baby comment and just wants to clear the air with everything. And she's laying it on thick. She's like, Angela, you look so pretty. Like, no joke. You look so pretty right now. And on the flip side,

she's shitting on everything about this house that Angela has flipped. Angela's trying to sell her this house, too. Correct. Yeah, I know. So they're on totally different way. I think that Angela's doing, like, the double dip. Like, I could potentially sell this to Kelly. I'm going to show all my other rental properties on the show.

Maybe somebody will buy it when they see it air. That would be really cool. Well, then don't have somebody walking around with you that doesn't like the house. Yeah, I don't. That was fucking, that was. I didn't like the house for what it's worth. It wasn't my favorite, but, you know, I want Angela to sell that bad. She's $2 million in the hole.

I actually liked the rancher best out of all of them. Oh, really? Yeah, the one that I didn't mind the journals were out there. Yeah, yeah, I like that one too, but. Well, carport. I'm a big carport guy. I like carports. Right?

Yeah. Just, I don't do something about it. Nobody wants to pull up in the rain and, like, get rained on. No, get on my car and be protected. I agree. You know where they're big? Where? Texas.

Yeah, I was just going to say, you know, where I usually see the most carports is the aftermath of tornadoes. Yeah. So they're still standing. Yeah, they're sturdy as shit, you know? Or that famous picture of the, uh, the Bugatti underneath of a carport in like, you know, nowhere'sville, Missouri. yeah totally that's what i thought yeah you don't know that one you're talking on i'm not up in my

bougatis but they keep chatting and angela kind of lays out there what her and charles relationship has been it's like look we've been living together for 10 years we've been married for eight years we're best friends like i know this man better than anybody but let's talk about the baby comment why would you not talk to me and kelly's response is i see both sides because she says like how would we talk to you about that. It's like, okay, fair, touchy subject. But you feel comfortable talking about it elsewhere with other people, which means you have to then be able to bring it to the person. Yeah, I feel like this whole Charles baby thing has been ruminating for a while. Sounds like it. Nobody's really saying anything directly. Well, they're saying it directly,

but no one's answering and then they pull back. It's not like a full-blown conversation. No. It's usually just like a last-ditch effort, like a comet that gets thrown in there at the end of an argument but it's still come up enough and enough people have talked about it where it's like all right we do need to deal with we need to talk about it a little bit to get to the bottom of we at least get the rundown of how it happened and if this is all true this is fucking nuts yeah because charles hosted an event with wendy williams and wendy's husband had similar rumors and i make sure i got this right i think i did so wendy's husband had similar rumors so she asks angela have you ever dealt with anything like that and she's like well actually yes i

have in reference to her ex yes wendy took it as she was talking about charles and then wendy williams spread this rumor around pretty much yeah what the fuck yeah i'm not really sure what happened there i i think it's based on the whole conversation that was had it sounds like there was a lot more said because they did get into infidelity with charles which she was up front about which she was up front about and told wendy about and i think that there was a bit of a puzzle that came together for Wendy Williams, and she decided to then share it, thinking that the two were connected. Okay. And they weren't.

And they could be connected at this point. I mean, you bring up all this stuff. It sounds like a very well-orchestrated story. It sounds like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to get out of Charles, bad said. I like Angela a lot. I'm scared of Charles.

But I mean... Look, is there some fishy things? We've heard similar stories like this, and usually it is true. Where there's smoke, there's fire. It's so crazy. This is the one time that that's not true. Yeah, and it's very likely that, you know, during the whole Madison Square Garden thing, he was down in the dumps, not feeling like himself. Well, they took a break during that, which is interesting.

And that was what she said because of the Madison. So pretty much, what's the GM's name? James Dolan. Pretty much James Dolan caused Charles Oakley to be unfaithful. Yeah. What a dick. You blame him. It's his fault, Charles.

It's a show where we make it very routine to go after the guys who have cheated and we're like, oh, fuck that. Come on. It was James. when we're like, it's just James Dold. Look, we will stand true to who we are. There's a lot of smoke here. All right. It is interesting, but at least, and I don't know if Angela's talking about the cheating to

nip this in the bud and be like, see, we're up front. That's the vibe I got. If I tell you about the cheating, then you'll know that, like, maybe he didn't do this because I'm not. Share a half truth. Yeah. It just blows over. Right.

So, yeah. It never works. We won't change who we are. We do. It never works. No, it doesn't. Just because, you know, Charles Oakley fucked people. up on the court.

It's sketchy. Yeah. It's sketchy. But we start talking about Shimea and Angela, and their talk obviously didn't go right. And more comes to light. This makes more sense why what happened happened, because she said that we have private conversations about Porsche all the time. Shemia has a lot of issues with Porsche.

Yet when we get to these moments and Porsche's there, she always takes Porsche's side. She's always on her team. She throws me under the bus. And she even lists some of the issues. She was upset that she didn't get invited to the wedding, the fact that, and this is weird. And explain this one to me. So, Portia didn't want Shamiya as part of this group, apparently. And when she showed her the list of potential housewives that Portia was going to recommend to the show, what was the reason for Shemia not being on that list or being low on the list?

Shemia was low on the list, but she was on the list. I don't think we really got a reason as to why. I thought they said because... Unless it's the same reason as why she didn't want to go to her wedding, which was they weren't really talking at a time. No, that was, which is such a cop-out. Yeah. No, there was something specific, and I can't remember.

I didn't write it down, but something was used as a reason that she wouldn't be good for the show. It was a bullshit answer, but I'm pretty sure there was something. It was just that she had been around enough and, like... Is that what it was? I think it was the bullshit of you've been around, you've been on the show, you've been a friend of, your friends with a lot of these ladies, so I didn't put you high on the list because, like, I already thought that you'd be a good fit. Is that what she said to her?

I think that's what she was kind of getting to. Well, not for nothing, but Shamiya was a great, great choice. Look, if nothing else, it's confirmation that Housewives are just walking around a list of people that would be good on the show in their pockets. That I always believe. Now I'm going to talk to them. Every single day. Next time we interview a Housewife, let me see your list.

Who's on your short list? Who's on your short list? Because they probably do all have them. That's interesting. Imagine. And if not, they can probably come up with it, like, on the spot. But these scenes are starting to become irrelevant for me. Like, Mike and Britt, you know, I don't give a thought.

Talking about Brits family. And that's the thing. You know, they're talking about Share, because Mike had a conversation with share. First and foremost, I need some clarification here. Bacon, egg, and cheese, right? Four slices. It's a lot of bacon.

It was the bacon. Yeah. Okay. I disagree. I like a full bacon sandwich. I usually cop out. I crack it in half. Yeah, no, I crack it in half, but I usually top out around three slices.

I crack out three because you go two here, two here, two here. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. Bank. Lincoln logs. Yeah. exactly yeah but i'm not going to get mad at extra bacon no no not at all but i thought was four

slices of cheese and i was like whoa my god you didn't think about that did you no and we never got clarification on that i'm assuming it was bacon four slices of cheese is like when you go to like a new york deli and they stack that bad boy up the achy way yeah yeah the no it's not the acci way i know that's a chop cheese i love that that guy's got super famous yeah he's gotten super famous working out of deli it's great but yeah i agree with you the the brit conversations i'm I'm going to go even further. Just Brit in general. If there's no one else involved

and we're not talking about things that are going on with the rest of the women, don't need it. I don't care. I simply just don't care. And this isn't like a let's rag on Brit. I think she's a terrible housewife. She's not good at this.

She's not good at any sort of altercations. She always escalates when it doesn't need to be escalated. She doesn't sit back and ever think about her next move. She just reacts to shit. And it's always the wrong reaction. So then when we get here, I'm like, I'm not emotionally invested in you. That's what it is.

Give a fuck about your marriage. I don't care about your mom. your sisters, them feuding, all of that seems kind of bullshit to begin with when we see that and we hear the reasons why you guys are talking. It's all fabricated. It's all fabricated. And the best thing is Mike is going to go sit down with one of your sisters who you've got beef with and they've got beef together and then your mom's involved or whatever. They film it. We don't see it. We see 30 seconds of it and it's such dumb shit. It looks fake. So I'm completely checked out on Brett. I'm just checked out. It's not that I don't like her. I don't feel any type of way about her. I just don't need her on

the show i'm just indifferent i'm just indifferent and she my issue with her is from day one her goal on this show is to get into it with other housewives yeah like it's like she watched the show back and only took notes on feudant instead of like go your best friend is crushing it because she's being nice to people and sitting in the back and jumping in when it's necessary you keep trying to go for people and here she thinks she's angela yeah she's not exactly like those are the two ways that newbies can come in. Angela waited for a little bit. She got into it randomly, but I don't think she really meant to. But she never started it. No, she never started it. And she's actually calculating different moves to come back and try to still be friends

with people while also making sure that she's getting some sort of revenge or retribution on people who have wronged her. Then you have Kelly, who's just trying to be nice to everybody. Trying to to be everybody's friends. Those are the two ways the newbies come into a group. Britt, I don't know what the hell she's doing. Yeah, it just doesn't. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. But But let's get to Porsche and Angela. They're playing tennis together. The tune has changed a little bit from Porsche. She's like, I like Angela.

She's a bad bitch, which could, it could be this. The way that Angela has not bent the knee to Porsche, maybe she respects that. Where it's like, you're going to hold me accountable. Like, I can't push you over like I do other people. You know who I think respects it the most. Who? Ralph. Ralph respects everyone the most, dude.

Yeah, there's a lot of respect. I respect that. God, he respects that. He respects me. Wow. He must not. A respectful guy. We got to give respect to earn respect.

I don't, can we not with Ralph? I'll go on a tangent every single time. He's an idiot. You got to respect him, though. I don't, actually. I don't. Where was I? So you threw me off with Ralph.

This is what happens. Oh, we're talking about Amari. You know, she got married to her girlfriend without telling Angela because we went through that whole thing a couple of weeks ago. But I guess it was because Angela was like a helicopter parent. Yeah. Or something along those lines. She said that about herself.

Yeah. Okay. Sort of. She said that Omari said that she is sort of a helicopter parent. That's why she did it as like a bout of rebellion. Got it. Got it. But Portia's talking about her pampered event.

She's having all the girls out to, uh, which actually later I weirdly agreed with Drew. Yeah. Because she slides the, the sheets in. But that's kind of shady, no? It happens at every show. They don't sell them though. Like, hey,

we've in like in the housewives era everybody has a product sneaks in a product placement they're just using free pub from the show should and then using the other housewives for more marketing you should they're doing yeah but we're talking about angela portia and drew in that whole situation and ralph at dinner comes up and the whole thing like drew tried to sleep with dennis this is from portia drew tried to sleep with dennis but dennis said no just run me my money and angela's and i i think this is intentional and i don't think that she's like oh my god because she's She says, I'm learning so much about Drew, but I think she's just playing all the sides where it's like, wow, you're really, you're really teaching me a lot about her. And she's still not out on Drew. She's still doing like the concerned friends. Like, oh, I don't want to hear this. I don't want to hear this. Oh, no, no, no, but tell me more.

Yeah, like, oh, gosh. They're trying to cover her ears, but not covering ears. Yeah. And Porsche's whole thing is like, I thought it was fair that you get both sides of this store. You've gotten Drew's side. I want you to get my side, which I was like, that's fair. That's actually reasonable.

I think it's really interesting with Angela specifically because I can remember one, maybe two scenes where her and Drew are sitting down. They don't seem like the best of friends. It seems like a very standard housewife conversation where somebody gets invited to somebody's house. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of history there, which I don't think there is. And it doesn't seem like there's a lot of friendship there. And yet she is painted as this Drew supporter, this Drew best friend because of what she did in Nashville. But that's going to get you a lot of flack because you're, vouching for pretty much. I think it's the flack that Angela wants. I do too. She wants people to react to

that and go after her so that then she can move more pieces in different directions. I don't think that it's... It got her into the group very fast. I think it's premeditated, but only to a certain extent. I think that she puts things in motion and then just wants to see reactions. I think she'll burn Drew the first chance. I do too, if necessary. But I do think that it's like, I'm going to invite her and just see how people respond. And if they respond, well, I brought the group back together. If they don't, I'm going to take notes. That's kind of the vibe that I'm getting. But then she gets into Shamea and the fact that, you know, she feels like she's not part of

the group and that's when Portia uses the list to defend it. It goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I had her on this whole list. I just told her, her husband doesn't want to film and that's the issue. There you go. Because he doesn't want to film with her. But Angela tells her she has a lingering issue and she's afraid of you, Portia, because she doesn't want to be your lap dog. Yeah.

Was not expecting this response. No. Nor should cries and walks away. Yeah. Wasn't really expecting that sort of response. Also, just going to call it out right now. And this is no shade. Who the fuck cares if the husband's not going to film?

That's not a thing anymore. Like 90% of housewives on TV shows don't have husbands. Correct. So who cares? That was the one thing when I posted that, uh, the news clipping of Roney getting canceled. Yeah. I'm like, bring Lindsay over, maybe throw page in there. the comments multiple were like they are not housewives i'm like neither are most of the housewives

technically speaking house ex-wives yeah we're not married anymore like that's that's kind of the new thing so that doesn't fucking matter but we get to drew and her kids and it turns out that after the last court date all communication is ceased under court order which i i didn't know that was a thing they deleted the app from their phones yeah i guess yeah but i didn't need to see doctor Dr. Ken again? No, didn't he, Dr. Ken? That was, I think that was the start of our run of shitty psychiatrist. What shows has he been on? I know he's been on Atlanta before. He was on Atlanta. Again, the Ralph drew with Dr. Ken was where it started and there were more. Dr. Ken was on, didn't he pop up in Potomac? No. Miami? One of those. I think it was Miami. It was one of those

two. I can't remember exactly what it was. I know he was on something else. I had a feeling it was Dr. I think Dr. Ken was on Potomac. That sounds right. Was he talking to... Trying to remember who it was? No. No. Nope.

It was that disaster season, like two years ago. I kind of blacked that out of my mind. I can't remember. Yeah, I do know he's seen more. But I remember him popped back up and being furious about it because that was the start of like, what the fuck is this? He was on Ralph's side the whole time. They were gaslighting Drew together.

It was brutal. Yeah, that was. fact that she's still talking to him is crazy astounding there's got to be other therapy he's not with therapist he's a life coach yeah that's yeah i think he's the one of what life yeah what doctor of reality yeah reality doc nice dude yeah whatever bro vr doc yeah what do you a VR doc yeah what do you a vr doc i got nothing yeah i don't know i got nothing but i will say this i do think that dr canon's what started us on our tirade against bravo therapist definitely uh anytime somebody popped up with like the name tag of a life coach.

Yeah. Or even therapist. We've only seen, there was one therapist that were like, that was actually reasonable. And I think that was on Beverly Hills this past season.

And not that. Kyle's life coach friend. Not that guy. No, no, no. It was somebody, I think it was when Erica Jane's therapist was like,

oh yeah, I liked Eric and Jane's therapist. Yeah. She seems like the most equipped and qualified to actually be a therapist. She didn't deserve a pizza party. Right. Damn right.

But hard hitting. What's that? Oh, Drew and the kids. and they're going over the Ralph dinner and Angela told Drew everything as she's talking to Dr. Ken so that goes to show you just taking notes

because she spills all the tea and it turns out that Drew says Dennis is lying she's we're building this whole thing together I'm like building what an album or a relationship I don't know where the hell we're going anyway because again he did get accredited

for her album but he said through Porsche that he's now no longer longer discussions for any future projects. I guess. So, who the fuck cares? I also don't believe any of it. No, I don't believe any of it.

I don't know who to believe in this situation at all. Neither of them, because I do think that Dennis wants to boink, and I do think that he's still involved in her albums. Yeah, you're probably right. That's all I'm saying. Do you think all of this is just a conspiracy? Like, do you think Porsche's in on it? Would I be shocked?

No. I wouldn't if this was like, hey, this would be a fun storyline. appointed but and like I don't think that we would ever get confirmation about that unless somebody really slips up but yeah that's kind of where my mind goes I feel like it's a conspiracy there's like a meeting before the season like we know they meet before the season to talk about things we do users will meet with the main housewives and say all right this is the direction we're going to go in what's going on with everybody so yeah we're going to lay out five things would not be surprised at all especially because there doesn't seem to be a lot of animosity they can be in the same room together and not talk about anything they both avoid the subject well then the people is now playing telephemy phone at this point. So, like, we're not getting any answers. It just seems shady and stupid. But the other people involved will also, like, even to the psychic medium or the prophet said, oh, she doesn't want to talk about her things in here. It's like everyone's avoiding this except it doesn't make any sense. Seems like a big setup. That's what I think too, but. Do you think Dennis is going to be at the reunion? I mean, if this, if this carries on for the

entire season, yeah, I do. Like, he'll check in. I think that's an easy one, but I don't know. Somebody to step up like we saw in Potomac with. with uh with g or g and the fucking kids and ink and like who's the dad and all yeah like somebody needs to spoil it like when gordon's like i just went and did it yeah i need like to uh karen's husband yeah yeah yeah yeah i need somebody to just spill the beans at some point like angelae needs to find something out better yet get charles involved in some way shape or form and he just spills it just walks in and says it and then walks out and just dumb like flips everybody i actually heard drew talking to angela yesterday the whole thing's fake that's that's where we

are yep that would be awesome that would be hysterical thank god for that that would be great but we get to the pampered event because i'm not wasting time on the kelly and britt conversation on the way there no and uh drew arrives and portia reiterates what we heard last week and i think the week before that i don't want to argue anymore i don't want to argue anymore we're going to move on i'm dodged each other to go to dinner for like six weeks straight i think it was months yeah and now you're sitting in a position where you're just both saying you're not going to talk about it. That's fun. But you are talking about

it to other people. Yeah, it makes no sense. You're furthering the storyline without actually addressing it. You're not furthering the, no, you're just talking about the same shit over and over again. We've heard just adding more details via text message. Yeah. But we've heard the same exact setup 10 weeks in a row now. This is what

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But this is where Drew's trying to figure out what this event is. He's like, am I sponsored by Pampered now? It's like, no, you're not. You're not getting paid for this, actually. You're not getting paid for this. Could you argue that maybe you should? Sure. Yes, because, and I don't know if editing did it dirty where it's like at the very end,

like then she kind of like slides the sheets into the frame. Throw these up there. Yeah, oops. Oops, I'll just drop these right here. but Kelly and Shamiya start talking and it's awkward as shit between Shemia and Portia like super awkward

and so Kelly and Shemia start talking about it and at Angela's it comes out that Drew talk shit you know calling Shemia Portia's lap dog and Porsche was in tears about Shemia and like running and telling stories blah blah blah just getting to the meditation

so we can really really talked about it because Shemia is upset that Porsche even allowed this conversation about their friendship to happen because in her mind if this had come up with anybody she would have shut it down immediately but the fact that Porsche even entertained it with Angela gets under her skin

and nobody can meditate during that not even you yeah I'd be asleep they ruined your sound bath how do you feel about meditation run by Porsche's sister so what I'm just saying very funny but no I think that this was something

it's a really good setup. I don't want that to get like mixed among everything else. I like this scene. I really think that this has come to a head in such a nice way with all you can call it editing. You can call it all Angela's strategy. You can say that this was going to happen regardless with the path that Chimea and Portia were on with their friendship. I don't know exactly what it is. It's probably a combination of all of those. It was just so well done. And we're at a point now in the season where we are addressing it. And I love that because it took a, little bit to get here. It didn't take forever.

And there's little breadcrums along the way where you can point and be like, ooh, that's not good. Yep. Going all the way back to the first episode, Shamea's birthday party, Portia walks in, takes all the attention, didn't really like that look. We hung up on that for about a week or two. And we're like, wow, something might come to that.

10 weeks down the line, here we are. Yep, full circle moment. And I love the fact that Kelly sees her moment to jump in and get a little messy. I think Kelly's in on it. I think Angela brought her in. I do too. Yeah. I do too.

I think that's a good point. But they all start talking during the meditation, and, you know, Angela's like, I, you know, I appreciated your apology. And then Kelly jumps in and says, look, I admire Porsche and Shania. And I really admire their friendship. And they need to have a conversation. And I was like, all right, good. What I wasn't expecting was, people think that Porsche doesn't allow for Shamiya to shine and be her best self. And I was like, that's a really good, gentle way to say that Porsche doesn't give a shit about Shemia. And doing it in a way that you can kind of step back and be like, now you go. I was impressed. I like the way that they did that, too, because you can even go back, and I'm sure there's people using specific instances in which they've tried to get close to Shemia. And Shemia is too busy working on shutting down rumors about Porsche, shutting down bad talk about their friendship, or what Porsche is doing with Dennis, or whatever it might be.

Shemia is very busy at doing those things. So, yeah, you can't get that close to her, and we've seen it a couple times, so everybody can attest to it. Yep. And Shemia, if we go back and had a montage of this season, I'm surprised they didn't. You would see multiple instances where Shamiya goes to bat for Portia. So that's her whole thing. It's like, I do this shit all the time for you.

I expect the same in return. And Porsche's responses, I'm sorry if I made you feel that way, which we don't like those apologies. And she says that this makes her feel like shit, like a piece of shit. And Shemia is like, well, I tell you everything. And when people talk shit, I shut it down. Angela, you're afraid, Shemia. Damn, she's good.

She's very good. Yep. You're good, you. You're good. And you can tell it rattles Portia a little bit because now she's trying to do the explain game where she's like, no, you know, Porsche says that she didn't go to the wedding because a couple of months prior to the wedding, they weren't speaking. And it's a traditional wedding in a traditional wedding. I saw I wrote down. Why did I write that? Yeah, it was Porsche saying that she didn't want to be, she didn't feel like she could be in the front of the ceremony. Okay, that's it. While doing all of that and they weren't really talking. Got it. Apparently, that was bullshit because she was like, no. That doesn't make sense. Doesn't make any sense. Sounds like a cop out to me. It's like a standard Porsche cop out for any situation.

Yep. Just try to clean it up really quickly with an excuse. And then Cynthia with the last line is like, I hate when the group messes up friendships. Fair. But that's also like the show. That is the show. Right?

Like their friendships and like. It's also that's a little coded too because that's what I thought. Do you mean messing up to me in Porsche's friendship? Are you saying getting in the way of new friendships? Or old friendships? Should we go back in the archives and see? But I think that's, again, you know, the wisdom from an OG where it's like... Cynthia chime in.

It works every time. I love the Cynthia chime in. But I think this show, it's a solid season. It's not the best ever because we're getting hung up on pretty much Brit. I think if you get rid of Brit and maybe some of the Ralph and through stuff. They are starting to phase her out. I really do think they're phasing her out. It feels like...

Yeah. I could have done without any of that, but it was just filler. exactly that's my my question is like can we get filler with other like give me kelly filler give me angela give me shamia give me Porsche give me anybody else no it's actually kind of weird drew is barely in this she's not in a lot at all and like you wonder if she's completely on the alts at this point i don't know just based off of like editing maybe the only thing she's doing is working on her album like this is kind of boring could have been dennis isn't here we can't do anything here maybe that's she wasn't available as much i don't know or just in the studio every time

I don't know. It's just giving like Drew right now, and this is a, I'm not comparing the two people because they're very wildly different, but she's giving candy right now. She's barely in the shows. She's always doing some other shit and then she'll pop up at something else. Yeah. And, you know, I wildly different people. Wildly different. I see what you're saying.

One, I very much enjoy the other one. I don't really care for. And Candy was busy because she's, you know, actually very successful. directing plays and producing albums and flying all over the world. Yeah, that's a little different. But I see where you're coming from. But let's get to some questions. First one up here from Nick Sims.

Why does Portia seem uninterested in every interaction this season? She just seems kind of checked out. She does. She seems like she's phoning it in. I'm not entirely sure. You know, we're going to the second half of the season. So hopefully something picks up. But, yeah, we would agree.

Yeah. And Melanie Leah J also says, what the hell is going on with P this season? Is she mad to share the peach with Shimea or is it a bigger issue? She could feel like, you know, people have infringed on her territory a little bit, maybe. Possibility, I don't...

Or maybe she expected to be like the head honcho again and Shimea kind of stole the spotlight and she's upset. I'm trying to remember... No, because, you know what? She was pretty checked out even before Kenya got booted. Yeah, she didn't say maybe after Kenya got booted,

she's like, fuck it, I don't care anymore. I don't know, she didn't do a whole lot before that. It was just more about the dentist stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like she's mailing it in. Oh, interesting. From Darrell KPO9,

why the angela worship she's messy as fuck no to intentionally breaking up friendships exactly yeah what do you want she's she's been great she's been great and she hasn't you know why i like her personally because yeah she's not afraid to get into it it's not over the top i like when people move strategically yeah and she is not phased by anybody and i love that like she a lot of housewives talk shit that they're immovable and people can't bother them and they're full of shit. Yep. Angela really is unbothered and I love that. I'll do two more here from Gauda Chowda, Gauda Chowda.

Gauda Chowda. I like that. Watch, watch what happens live. Shamea spilled a lot of tea and cried about her broken friendship with Porsche. I saw a couple of clips. I didn't watch the one episode, but it was interesting to see that like they're still in a state of frenzy. That's wild. They were friends for like 20 years, they said, or more.

So that's sad. We don't like to see actual friendships break up, but it is part of the show. And last one here from Tina Jisler, production, or is Angela just here to call everybody out? I think she's here to call everybody out. I don't think that anybody's pushing this. I think she's doing it. Yeah, she's just standing on business. But yeah, solid season.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the second half has for us. We're still waiting for that, you know, Adam bomb to go off where it's like, holy shit. I don't know what that's going to be if that's there's that's where I'm nervous a little bit because if they aim for the wrong big moment out of the things that we potentially have right now yeah it's going to fall flat and I don't want that to happen yeah I have hoped that it won't though I do really worried about it I've done a good job I'm not I'm just giving you know I like to think ahead yeah just saying potential pitfalls that's all but nervous nellie anxious Alan wow yeah trepidacious tip

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's good. Wow, worrying William. Wow. Hey. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show, bro.

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