Bros & Shows - The Sinners, The Saints and Zak Affleck Stinks. (Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Episode 3 Full Recap)
Episode Date: September 12, 2024What's up Bros? We're back with ep 3 of Secret Lives and this show gets better and better. In this episode we get to know Jen Affleck and her husband Zak a little bit more. It starts with a graduation... party for Zac who just graduated from BYU with aspirations to be a surgeon just like his dad. Jessi and Jordan break out some vodka in a flask in the hot tub and it rubs Jen and Zak the wrong way as they live in an alcohol free house. The group is beginning to fracture as we have two groups taking shape. Aptly named "The Sinners" and "The Saints". The irony of course being that the "Saints" are about as hypocritical as you can be. Booze and coffee are bad but laughing gas is fine. Fruity Pebble experiments with your husband are bad but promoting vibrators on your instagram is fine? Seems like a lot of double standards being put forward by Whitney and her crew. Half of the crew is invited to Jen's baby blessing while the Sinners head to go bowling as there is a clear line in the sand being drawn. The battle for HBIC of MomTok is beginning as the rest of the crew sees a power struggle between Whitney and Taylor and we can't wait to see where it goes. Want more access and exclusive content from the Bros? From weekly news updates to exclusive members only Zoom's and much more, BravBros Members offers all that and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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from The Bros for Everybody, for whoever wants to listen.
and I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only, Bishop Goots.
What's up, dude?
Bishop Goots.
I think.
Is that how it works?
Promotions.
Yeah, there's bishops.
I know there's bishops.
I'm saying to get promoted in the church.
Is that a thing or is it like something else?
No, I feel like elder kind of sounds a little.
Elder, no, because like the missionaries, when they go do missions in other countries
are called elders.
They are?
Yeah.
That's the whole thing.
That's what I was saying to you.
Jack Barlow at 18 years old was a.
Elder Barlow.
It's just confusing. Elder just sounds like an old person.
I agree with you. I'm just telling you what I know.
Huh.
Yeah. A little knowledge for you.
Well, I'm just happy to be promoted.
Yeah, Bishop Goots.
Yeah, I'll take it.
Welcome.
I'll take it. I'm slouching a little bit.
Yeah, I know.
Settling in.
These are two episodes.
It's a two episode.
As we know from the Mormon Church, the men do whatever the fuck they want.
That's it.
So I'm going to slouch.
Especially in this episode, we'll see a lot of that, which is, you know, I have comments about it later.
It's just irritating to,
watch honestly in 2024 but hey if you're if that's your religion you do you boo-bo but we're here
to talk about slumwa uh which is secret lives of mormon wives we just did episode two now it is
time to do episode three so you got a little two episode day and a double feature a double feature
and if you know anything about us or if you've been here for a while when we do two in a row
things tend to get a little weird in the second one so uh i'm already setting it up yeah buckle up
baby especially for this show i think yeah just you know no we get to talk shit on dudes yeah i know
love talking shit on dudes and we like a loser a lot of dudes uh one in particular we get to meet
very early but let's jump right into this episode because we start out with uh leanne calling whitney
like we talked about last episode and you know the girls were surprised and i was surprised and this
is where you can see through the bullshit facade of i'm a great christian mormon i'm a great christian mormon
I am so nice to everybody that Whitney puts out.
You couldn't even text her.
And you're going to act like, we didn't even have a friendship.
It's like, yo, you were the leaders of mom talk, apparently,
or you were the leader in waiting.
So now you're just like, I think maybe that's what it is.
Is that what it is?
Now that she's in charge, she's like, I don't have time for you.
Yeah, probably.
I think it's more that her presence there would have resulted in a,
oh, Taylor is taking back over.
You think that was, that was like all it is, yeah.
Or bending the knee by showup.
It's still a power play.
Exactly.
Yep, that's the best way to put it.
Yeah, it's definitely the best way to put it is Whitney going is her bending the knee to tell her.
Interesting.
Okay, okay.
Because that's what this whole scene is about is, you know, she's saying, I didn't even think about it.
She just wants to be the HBIC.
And I forget who's there with Whitney having this conversation, but that's literally it.
They go to their confessionals like, this is all about power.
And again, we talked about it last episode.
I'm going to talk about it this one.
When you look at this hierarchy, if that's what you want to call it, of Mom Talk,
you got the two at the head, Taylor on one side, Whitney on the other,
then you got the minions in between.
But the minions aren't really minioning.
They're not doing jobs for the other two.
They are simply in the camp of, we want to make TikToks,
hang out, not be weird with each other, and make some money.
Like, what the fuck happened, guys?
It's really not that hard of an equation.
How will Mom Talk survive this?
We have to ask it every question or every episode.
I don't know.
I don't know how.
We don't know what the, the,
The road back to Gloria is.
We're waiting to see it.
You're waiting to see it.
I do just hope, because you brought up the minions.
And I think we're getting a little bit more as the group fractures.
We're going to get to see people individually.
We're going to get to see alliances being made and things like that.
Pieces are going to be moved.
We know enough about them.
We got a good, they did a really good job with the backstory for most people.
My favorite is jizz hair, for sure.
And look, I'm not even going to call her Jesse.
I'm just going to call her jizz hair.
Unfortunately for her.
Yeah, yeah, you just have to call her jiz hair.
Unfortunately for her.
really unfortunate for her.
Great marketing.
Just, no, lean into it.
Yeah, I would...
Lean into it.
Yeah, that's fucking Cameron Diaz and...
Oh, yeah, something about Mary.
Yep.
That's literal, Jazeera.
That is, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Episode two of the day.
Be warned you.
Jizzair.
Let's go on a tangent.
No.
But, no, I do want to see the Minions Minion.
I know, I agree.
I'm getting tired of the Yes, women.
Just sitting around, no matter who they're with,
they just agree with them.
There's one person who's on the
outskirts of, well, I guess you can put Jesse old Jiz hair and, uh, that way, that makes it
worse.
I know.
And to me, are they, they have their own personalities over there.
They do.
Yes, they stand alone.
They just do whatever they want and they're, they don't take shit from nobody.
By the way, I want to hang out with them.
Yeah, they look fun.
If I'm going to hang out with anybody in this group, it's probably those two.
Yeah, it's definitely going to be those two.
Everybody else is just yes people.
Like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're so right.
Oh, my God.
Don't rock the boat.
Except for Macy.
Macy's good.
on her own.
Macy's good on her own,
but she seems to be leaning.
She leans.
She's leaning.
She leans towards Whitney.
And I think that she can be coerced a little bit.
I think she'd be pushed.
I think it's very easy to do that, though,
because she is firmly in the camp of you being Taylor.
That's our word of the day, by the way, I guess,
is in the camp of, I've said it like three times now.
Did you?
Yeah.
That's probably why.
You've accepted me.
Get out of my head.
Get out of my dreams, you beautiful man.
second episode of the day
um
god damn it
no but i yeah i agree with you i think macy can be swayed because she wants
dakota out of taylor's life
taylor is not listening and she's continuing with the toxic relationship having a baby
he's moving in with her there's a lot of shit going on so one bad move by taylor and i
think macy's felt like fully out i agree with you i think she's on the cusp right now and
we'll see how it plays out uh you know some of you may already know don't ruin it for us
You guys already blew a bunch of stuff in the questions you asked on episode one.
I was like, I don't know about this yet.
So settle down.
Well, to be fair, one of the questions yesterday, and I said this today, because typically
we put out questions for each episode we're going to do, but you guys did not get the
assignment.
You didn't read the whole question.
So there were a lot of questions in there for episode three, so we didn't bother putting
one out today.
There was one person, and I wish I could remember exactly who it was, that I asked a question
and then followed up by saying, shit, that's actually episode three.
And the question didn't ruin it.
It just said, what happened with the fruity pele?
Which we will discuss today.
We'll answer your question.
We'll make sure we get you.
We will have two answers.
Yes.
One that is probably what it is.
A yucky one.
A yucky one.
Yeah, we'll do a yucky one.
Yeah, we'll get gross.
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spot we have to talk about it yes it's going to get weird but what do you want us to do we didn't do
it we didn't break out the cereal but we'll talk about the cereal anywho we had to meet
zakaris targaryen aka zach afleck who if you watch house of the dragon you can't
tell me that's not Agon.
Yep.
It's literally him.
But right from the jump, and I don't mean this derogatory in any way, shape, or form, okay?
Let me just reiterate that.
No?
Not yet.
I'm going to be, I'm going to tear him a part.
I still want to hear what you get to say, yeah.
If there's any Mormon listeners, this is not a knock, okay?
But if you asked me to sit with a police sketch artist and draw Mormon,
Zach Affleck is what I would say
That is a Mormon to me
Yeah
And again, I'm not trying to be rude
Went to BYU, he's going to go be a doctor
Like all the things line up
He's got this blonde hair, blonde eyebrows
A very very irritating disposition
I'm not saying Mormons are irritating
I'm just saying he is
I'm just if you asked me to pick a Mormon out of a sketch lineup
That would be it
Yeah, I agree with that
I don't know if that's mean
It's not mean okay cool
No.
Okay, great.
Just making sure.
But Taylor arrives and they're having themselves, I guess is this the graduation party?
Yeah, this is the graduation party.
And we get to learn more about the Mormon religion, which I love, I love learning more.
And when they have parties, they have soda parties because you're not allowed to drink other stuff.
So we get introduced to one of Zach's friends who owns thirst.
Yeah.
Did you feel the same way that I did?
Yeah.
when Zach gestures towards him and goes,
we just call him Soda Boy.
It's fucked up.
You know that Zach's a dick at.
It's because Zach is like,
I'm just graduated medical school to be a surgeon
or I'm going to medical school.
I'm not sure.
I don't know what they're going on.
He's Soda Boy.
Don't do that.
Don't disparage.
He owns a business.
He owns a store.
A thriving business, by the way.
Because you can't drink coffee,
so these assholes are pulling up at 8 in the morning
drinking a Coca-Cola out of a 44-ounce.
is that not the most wild thing you've ever heard if i started my day with a giant coke i would
be fucked if we're ever in utah for a reason we have to go and they don't have a coffee shop and we wake
up in the morning we're going to be grouchy boys oh that's not happening yeah bringing coffee then
like there's no there's no wait wait there's definitely coffee shops in utah i hope well in utah yeah
but maybe not like wherever they are they're in provo we got confirmed provo yeah they're
there's no, because not everyone
there's Mormon. Most of them are. Maybe in Provo.
A lot of them are. That's also, that's
generalized. I don't know that for sure. It sounds like a punishment.
You have to go to Provo and you can't drink any coffee.
You have to drink soda at 8 o'clock.
I couldn't make it. I could not do it. I'd sleep till noon.
Oh, God, dude, my stomach hurts just talking about it.
I don't even know where we are anymore. Oh, they're breaking down.
But this is where I get confused by the hypocrisy of
the guidelines of this, the bylaws, whatever you want to call them,
the foundations of this religion.
why is coffee bad but so does fine so does way worse for you than coffee yeah i think the more i've
been thinking about it i go back to what i said in the last episode joseph smith just had a vendetta against
people bringing coffee beans i think that's probably what they're they're dirty it's a dirty product
from honestly from a non-mormon and just saying you know if you want to do some research on joseph
smith you'll you'll find some things out that aren't great he wasn't the coolest dude in the world
again if you're a prophet
we don't need to get into that.
We really don't need to get into that part of it because I,
you know this about me.
I do love this religion.
Sounds like your peanut butter and jelly that God doesn't talk to you.
Stop baiting me, dude.
Stop.
Don't do it because I'll go on a rant about the whole thing.
I know all about the foundation of this church and how it was founded.
I do.
I know that he found the gold plates pretty much in his backyard.
I knew that he had the seeing stone and he was the, listen to this.
He had the seeing stone and only he could use the seeing stone to decipher it.
So he read the gold plates out of a hat.
I'm not going to keep going, but you get my dream.
Is it a top hat?
It was a top hat, allegedly.
Stop.
I knew the answer to that.
I just wanted you to keep going.
I can't do it.
I can't do it because here's the thing.
The found, like, the beliefs of the religion that it teaches are good.
Be a good person.
Be friendly.
to your neighbor, do unto others, all of those nice things. I don't want to disparage any of our
listeners if they follow this religion. So fucking stop baiting me. But anyway, we learn more about
Jen, Jen Affleck. Her mom is from Ecuador. I'm glad that she pointed out some uncomfortable
things because I was curious about it. I think everybody was watching. You know, she says, yes,
there's been some weird moments. For example, Zach's dad is a surgeon at the hospital. My mom is
a cleaning lady at the hospital. So that obviously creates some weird dynamics amongst this family.
She might feel a certain way about it. I would imagine, as Layla pointed out, being the only
black person in her school growing up, that, yes, there is definitely a difficult part of being a
person of color in the Mormon church. I'm sure it is ostracizing in some way, shape, or form. So I'm
glad they point that stuff out, because it's important. But before we get to what I have named,
And I'm going to see if you can guess the name of this scene that I wrote down.
But Taylor and Whitney have yet to talk, okay, since the baby shower that Whitney decided to not go to and also not say anything about.
And Taylor just wants to have a conversation, which I think she is deserving of.
At the very least, Whitney, even if you're not friends as you claim to not have a friendship with her, fine.
Explain it to her.
Just be a grown-up at this point.
You know what?
Be a good Christian woman.
and sit down and talk to her.
It'd be too much to ask.
It is too much to ask because she's a hypocrite and not a good person.
No, she's hiding behind her Christianity.
It's such horseshit, dude.
It's such a...
We see it a lot in this show, which is not surprising.
Most of them do it.
It's not surprising at all.
It's the easiest cop-out ever.
But if you do actually believe in this,
go sit down and talk to her, say, hey, this is why.
And I don't think we can be friends or anything.
Even be rude to her, but at least give her the time of day.
I don't understand.
That is always lost on me, in the world, honestly.
When people just refuse to hash something.
thing out or just like, I'm just not going to talk about it.
It's like, we just fucking deal with it.
And then move on.
In a situation like this where you benefit from being friends.
You do.
Yeah.
You guys need them.
If you guys combined forces, mom talk would be back where you want to be.
You're going to go to your mom and talk to her about endorsing a vibrator.
You can talk.
As a person of the Mormon church, you can go hash things out with Taylor.
You would think.
Bring her back in.
You would think.
Seems pretty simple to me.
But no.
No, she can't.
She can't possibly have this conversation.
Now, Taylor tries to have it.
Nothing gets accomplished.
She walks away.
But we do get to find out what the last straw was.
And this was comical to me.
I was like, this is what sent you over the edge with her?
Because I figured it was, you know, she's bringing too much bad publicity.
She's really rubbing me the wrong way.
No, no.
When we joked about the stealing of the trauma thunder,
when she had shared that, you know, Connor was on Tinder.
never met up with anybody.
Yeah, okay, sure.
Three years.
Yes, he did.
Did she say he never met up with any of the girls?
I don't know.
That would be an important distinction.
That's an important distinction.
And on those rumors.
There are some rumors about which app he was actually on.
But we get to what I have named this scene.
I would like for you to guess what the name of this scene is.
Mountain, do you even drink, bro?
No.
That's a good one, though.
I was fixated on them drinking Mountain Dew.
Think about the context.
Think about what religion they are and what they're doing.
Hot tub time machine?
Closer.
Not really just the hot tub part.
What are you doing a hot tub?
Jookoos.
You soak.
Oh.
Come on.
That was so easy.
Yeah.
So they're soaking in the tub and Jordan, Jesse's husband,
decides to break out a little vodka, a little flask guy.
Now, here's the thing.
You don't put vodka in a flask?
No, you just...
You just drink it straight out of the bottle.
Chaser or not, you just take that shit to the face.
The best way to do it is when it's been sitting in your car for a long time and it's really hot.
It's under your seat.
Yeah.
Stop it.
Yes, it's exactly where it is.
And it's hotter than hell, because it's been sitting in Florida for a while, and you just guzzle it down.
That's how you drink vodka.
Yeah.
That's how I was told.
But anyway,
He breaks out the flask.
Now, I am fully on Jen Affleck's team here.
This is just not appropriate.
If this is the setup, then you know that the house doesn't want booze in it.
You know that this is not the dynamic, especially I hate Zach, but at the same time, his party.
Or is it this party?
Yeah, it's at his house.
It's a graduation party.
Yeah, just, you know what?
Respect the rules.
That's all.
I agree.
I'm not going to go into it.
I also fully, I more so agree, because if it was just said,
once like you know what maybe you shouldn't be drinking out here then just keep it to yourself
if you're going to continue the continuation of oh you got to have a shot before we do play this
game like you're going to play first off sorry but no no Mormon never have I ever needs to happen
yeah no I know it definitely needs to happen but this was reminiscent of like a 12 year old sleepover
it was bizarre is this how they party because they keep telling us hey just because we can't drink
me we don't know how to party.
When I saw them sitting at the table together eating dinner like that and giggling and stuff,
I was literally like, this is kind of how I would go to like a friend's house in high school
and parents were still there.
And we were like...
Middle school.
Yeah, but like we would eat dinner, you know, before we went out or something like that.
And like parents were there.
So we're like gathered around like laughing and eating about to go do some stupid shit.
Yeah.
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But that's the vibe I got.
These people are in their 30s.
Some of the husbands are in their 40s.
I'm like, yeah, it gave me the heby-g.
Yeah, I don't like it.
I don't like it.
You don't need the drink to have a good time.
I'm not telling you that.
But you can grow up.
You can fucking weirdos.
You'd be cool.
But I did agree.
I thought it was kind of horseshit that they kept breaking out the liquor.
Like, just, I'm not.
not going to go into a house that I know is like a devout religious house and be like actively
an asshole about it. If that's what you believe in, I'm going to respect your house. I can respect
the rules. Jordan's Mormon too, right? I think so. Yeah. I think they're all Mormon. Yeah. But you do
know that the rules are different for the men. Very true. The rules are much different for the men.
So anyway, we get to a very confusing scene once again because we're getting Botox and laughing gas is a
major proponent of this and this is another thing how the fuck are all of these things outlawed
all of these foreign substances are outlawed drugs which i guess is fair because drugs are
outlawed everywhere yeah well i think at one point macy started talking about weed so there's something
in there's smoking weed so there's my point is there's all these no-noes but you can take nitrous
straight to the face as long as you're in a setting that's deemed okay aka potox
and you can also get Botox.
Your body's a temple is what they kept saying.
That's what they live by.
Everything you do is to treat yourself very well.
Again, good teachings.
Sure.
How the fuck does injecting a chemical into your face not count?
Yeah, none of it makes a whole lot of sense,
but I don't think they've updated the laws since 18, whatever.
They did in the 70s or 80s.
They changed a very big one.
Well, yeah, that big one.
But they didn't update any of the laws.
the you can't do this, this, or this.
Like, alcohol was still a thing in the 1800s.
I guess weed probably was, too, and there's other drugs that were included in that.
Nitris wasn't the thing.
That's a good point.
I think it's skirt around the wall there?
I guess technically, but see, that's so weird to me.
No, it just are.
It's just crazy to me that they're talking about this.
Like, it's such a fun thing, and it's like, oh, it's a girl's day, and we're all
going to go do nitrous together.
If you heard that, like, if I, say, like, you were talking to a group of people,
you had met them before, and you asked them what they did for fun.
and they said that, that's worse than anything that any person I know would ever say.
That's like, what are you fishing out in a parking lot before a concert?
Like, that's what I immediately go to.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I've seen that.
I've never done Nitris, but I've seen, I actually haven't, but I've seen people fish out.
I just started thinking about, like, coming out of Eagles games and you can hear the,
you see, wait, the best.
Eagles games are the only place that, like, still happens.
You see some idiot, like, lugging around a canister.
of nitrous that he probably
stole from a truck or a
dentist office, yeah. And it's
comically large. It's horrible bosses
too, right? Yeah.
But I've seen it. The guy had it on
a fucking dolly and he was carrying
around the parking lot selling balloons.
So when you say that, that's what I picture.
That's what we think of. Like, yeah, you're getting
Botox. Medically like
licensed nitrous. And this is
your night out. And they're all giggling like,
you're freaks. They're nerds. What do you mean?
It's so fucking weird. But in
that same breath, you're going to sit there and talk about Jordan breaking out whiskey or
vodka the night before.
You guys are literally sitting over there taking nitrous to the face and saying, this is so
fun, this is a great time, and we're still being good Mormons because this isn't outlawed.
Technically.
You know that that should be outlawed.
You're playing technicalities.
Yeah.
You're playing technical.
You're doing whippets in a doctor's office.
Yeah, seriously.
Macy's like, I don't even usually get the Botox.
I just come from the nitrous.
That's a problem.
That's not, like, what are we talking about?
It's so funny.
You can't skirt around the rules and then say that you are the most wholly out of the group.
They literally sit in this room doing nitrous saying, we are the most devout in this group.
We can't be associated with certain things.
I can't have these people at my baby blessing, these fucking heathens.
Jordan broke out booze.
He can't come.
The other ones, they're not all in.
We can't have these gross people around my baby Luca.
or not, by the way,
I'm not even allowed to be by Luca during the blessing
because only men get to do that.
What the fuck?
I'm sorry, but like, come on.
We got you on a ran anyway.
It's a light one.
It's just frustrating to watch, like, again,
I named it in last episode,
the hypocrisy over and over again
is it hurts my head.
But even this is where it's getting frustrating
with the minions,
the in-betweeners, if you will,
like the Michaela's of the group.
Because so many of them go to confessionals and say,
Whitney's causing a divide.
We just need to come back together.
We need to bring mom talk back to where it was.
I'm sick of all this in between shit.
But nobody will step.
Nobody will step up and say, hey, this seems wrong.
Why don't we just have everybody together because shit's getting awkward?
I need somebody to grow some balls and do something.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't think any of them have the balls to do it.
I don't think so either.
but like you can like Whitney's not scary Whitney's all bark she she's the most textbook the way she's
playing this it's but like this is why I think it's frustrating is because and we point out obviously
that they're all Mormons they always hide behind the veil of you know we're women of Christ
whatever they are willing to alienate people but not explicitly say terrible things about each other
and I need that I do too I'm going to need that at some
point. I hope that they do it. I hope that at some point they can just break it all down and
really just go after somebody. Because if Whitney was pissing me off, if I'm Taylor, and Whitney's
pissing me off, wouldn't you go over to her and be like, yeah, your husband was cheating
on you for years and you're going to go look at me like, but because of the Mormonism,
she's not going to do that. And that's what's frustrating for me. It's like you don't get it
all the way there. Yeah, no, I agree. It is honestly, it is, and again, this is how they acted at
the graduation party. It is like eighth graders. That's what it seems like. You're not going to say
anything super duper duper mean, but at that point in your life, super duper mean.
Well, yeah, I mean, we're eighth graders.
At that point in my life, yeah, saying things like that or like alienating people is the
meanest thing that you can do.
Yeah.
You don't learn that you can be meaner.
Yeah.
All you need to, all you need to say to Whitney, anybody.
Saw your husband on Twitter or fuck.
Twitter.
Saw your husband on Tinder the other day.
Yeah.
They get such a layup.
The minute she's being a bitch to you, just literally say that.
Yeah.
Say that your husband's story is pretty convoluted and doesn't track.
Maybe instead of worrying about, that's what you say.
Maybe instead of worrying about me, worry about your husband.
Yep.
Boom.
Done.
Walk away.
Then she's roasted.
There's no coming back from that.
But whatever.
We get to Jesse and DeMe and we're doing a little red jizz hair salon.
And I love that they frame it like this because it literally feels like that.
It's like the plastics and the mean girls.
Yep.
Like these girls are over here.
Like they're the cool group.
They're the fun group.
They think that they're hot shit, but all they do is talk shit about everybody else.
They think they're literally holier than now.
Second Mean Girls reference, by the way, so far.
There was another one.
It was the first episode, Taylor explained herself as the cool mom.
Right.
She goes up her outfit now.
Yeah, that's right.
But I did really appreciate this move, and I wasn't expecting it.
Let's call her.
Let's FaceTime her right now.
Let's hash their shit out.
I'm like, boom, do it.
Put her on the spot.
Absolutely.
Call her out, make her answer for herself, so they do.
And Jen was not ready at all.
Didn't know what to say, you could tell.
I love the cutscene of them in the car with her literally inviting them.
I would love for you guys to be there.
Civic date and time.
Yep.
Two weeks from now, it's this day, this time.
I really would like you guys to be there.
Fast forward after the hot tub incident.
Now, Zach, Zach Targaryen steps in.
This guy has a different take on the whole thing.
And I hated, fucking hated, that he's there to speak.
beak on her behalf. Oh, he was just sitting on the other side of the phone. In waiting. He's like,
all right, so we're going to talk about this. We're going to be here. Okay, they're not going to say
anything to me because I'm a man in the Mormon church. So as soon as I tell them, this is what we're
doing. But I like that Jesse and DeMe did not back down. Oh, they didn't. Even funnier, after
they go through everything. And while they're talking about it, because Jen obviously gets very
flustered. She can handle herself. She's lying through her teeth and she knows she is. She feels bad
about it. So she goes, you know what? Let me just bring Zach in to just clear this whole thing up.
He comes in and just, like, lays it down.
This is why we're doing this.
It's nothing against your husbands.
You know, I just want people there that I, you know, I won't close to.
What the fucks?
What's the baby's name?
People that I know.
What's the baby's name?
Luca.
Luca.
I want people that are close to Luca.
And that's really all we want.
That's, you know, that's really it at the end of the day.
You would think that Jesse and to me, like, they obviously challenged a little bit.
And maybe this would end in a not so great way.
All right.
I love you.
You know, I hope you guys have a really good time.
I hope it's a sacred and blessed day.
It's a sacred and blessed day.
It's a sacred and blessed day.
Have a good one, bye.
That's the Mormon.
I think it's the Mormon version of bless your heart.
Is it?
You have a sacred and blessed day.
Go fuck yourself.
Yeah, I hope so.
But I didn't care for Zach chiming and I didn't care for his condescending nature.
I didn't care with how he seems to think he's better then because we don't think you are, pal, just because you do.
And he's saying, this is what he says.
I don't know your husband.
So, and that's what Jen tried to lean on too until they pressed her ever so slightly.
And she's like, well, also like.
You know, the situation the other night.
Just you, Jen, you say that.
Say, hey, after the shit in the hot tub,
Zach doesn't want him there.
Well, Jesse didn't even know that she wasn't invited.
Or was it to me that didn't know that she wasn't invited?
Yes, Jesse was the one booze.
But also, what did me do?
She's not holy enough.
Yeah, okay.
She's simply not holy enough because Layla gets axed too.
She didn't do anything.
So it's just that.
And that's Zach saying, you know,
we don't want to be focusing on the wrong things.
And here's why I really got pissed off by him.
Because when they try to not even rebuttal, just talk about it, it's not your baby blessing.
So, oh, fuck you, dude.
Like, come on.
Like, that's such a bullshit answer.
You can't sit there and take the heat because you think you're better than, like, fuck off, dude.
I hate Zach.
Yeah.
Yeah, he sucks.
Hate Zach with a fiery, fiery fashion.
But I do like how Jesse and Demi handle it because they're like, pretty much we're not invited because we're bad Mormons.
That's all.
We're those people.
That's fine.
Whatever.
Fuck them.
Yep.
But flash quickly to the Galentine's party, and everybody arrives.
And we got a quick cutscene over to the plastics getting ready.
What we're now calling them the sinners and the saints, because that's fun.
So the saints are getting ready.
Again, ironic.
But we start talking about this fruity, I'm going to say fruity pebbles, but
it was fruity pebbles.
It was pretty cereal.
They kept calling it fruity cereal.
And then when she dumped that bag in, it was fruity pebbles.
Was it fruity pebbles?
I thought that was like when you get the generic brand, which, by the way,
nine times I had done to the generic.
Brian taste exactly this thing. Yeah, yeah, of course.
But yeah, so they're talking about this whole thing, and this is when my hypocritical
radar was just going fucking banana land. They're telling this story. That is way too
lewd or lascivious to talk about on TV. We have to whisper this. Yeah. Something happened,
but it all gets set up because to me wanted to label what level of Mormon she was.
I'm assuming a scale of one to ten.
is what they were doing. She's like, I'm a nine on the Mormon scale. Now, if Roslick has taught us
anything, there are different types of Mormons. There are still many people that are devout
to the church, but they live their own life and do their own thing. They don't follow all of the
rules, much like a lot of Catholics I know, much like a lot of people I know that follow
religion, but don't follow it to a T. I don't have a problem with that by any means, unless
you're going to act like you follow everything in the religion. But they phrase,
it like that and now they're all laughing at
to me like if she's a nine
I'm a 12 like
they're speaking on her relationship with God
but I hated
that this was a reason
to demote her from a nine
because Whitney started oh she's not
how little of a Mormon is she
I'll tell you the fruity pebble
incident oh let's talk about that
like oh what happened
so from what we have gathered here
at the brav pros
I'll say this as gently as I can
Yeah.
There's two scenarios that occurred, one of which makes more sense and is probably safer.
Oh, I've got a different scenario then.
Okay.
Well, the pebbles, the fruity pebbles were placed on or around an area, and then the husband ate the fruity pebbles.
Correct.
Okay.
That's probably what happened.
That's more than likely what should have happened.
Yeah.
The other one is, I don't know if I can say this.
In the body?
In the body.
Yeah.
Yes, which seems like a bad idea.
There's a third one.
Oh, God.
That I just thought of.
That involves milk as well.
Wait, I thought of this one too, I think.
Yeah.
But not sort of like creating a bowl with your body and then you kind of eat it with a spoon.
That's what I thought, but there was a different place for that.
Yeah.
I don't like where this is going.
No, no, but that's what we're thinking.
We had, somebody had to do it, so we did it.
We'll give you a breakdown.
That's our breakdown.
The not so lewd breakdown.
You got to use your imagination for a lot of this.
Don't do that.
But why not?
It's fruity pebbles.
Everybody loves fruity pebbles.
Mm-hmm.
Look, it's probably the first one.
It's probably the first one.
Which might not be.
It might not be.
But even so, first and foremost, we don't king shame here.
Not to mention Whitney played it out.
I know.
How is that better than just saying it?
I don't know.
I don't know.
That makes it way worse.
You weren't even wearing underwear either.
That makes it even more.
Yeah, I just didn't need any of it, but I still think it's so funny.
And look, the theme of this show throughout is hypocrisy.
Oh, yeah.
All I could imagine was Whitney promoting the vibrator on her Instagram.
Hey, guys, it's me Whitney.
You all know me.
I'm from the mom talk.
This is my favorite vibrator for when my husband goes out and cheats on me.
like okay so you're going to go do that but now you're you've got an issue with fruity pebbles
between a married couple in their own bedroom being intimate with one another if it's not
your thing fine whitney yeah but it's also none of your fucking business and it definitely doesn't
make her a worse Mormon because she's sharing a moment with her husband behind closed doors
that's none of our business what they're eating out of where and when ugh they're like saying
that but like seriously that that was the first thing i thought of she's
going on this rant about how that makes her less of a Mormon or less of a Christian.
So she did that with her husband.
You're out here promoting vibrators on your page, and under the guise of, it'll bring you
closer to your partner, only because that's the way that you can justify making $20,000
off a vibrator company.
So you have no leg to stand on.
The fact that you think this makes her a less Mormon is nuts.
And the worst part, the worst part, because she explicitly told you when you found out this
information, this is very private.
and for a multitude of reasons that we understand already,
and we're not in the Mormon church,
no, she probably doesn't want this shit out there
because it's going to look bad in the community.
So let's not.
But instead, not only do you tell everybody,
now we all at home know, which I'm sure to me didn't want,
you then go a step further and get a box out
and pour cereal fruity pebbles into this box
to give to her as a gag guy.
gift. What makes you think this is a good idea, especially when the other women in the room
are saying, hey, this seems like a bad fucking idea, but you're Whitney and you're, you know,
you're holier than now. And it's just a goof, man. It's just a goof. At the end of the day,
it's just a goof. Well, why don't we get you, I don't know if they make these? Is there like
a Tinder gift card? Put that in a box and give it to her. I was thinking like a cake that had
Connor's Tinder profile on it. That's an even better one. Yeah. Yeah, with his high school
somebody needs to do that yeah they should do that seriously fuck you if you're going to play this
game you should get the shit back but everyone gets to the party the mean girls arrive is what
i wrote down and you know the baby blessing conversation comes up jen has now gone full at zack's
fault she goes it's Zach yeah i did what i could but you know the man he said he said no he said
you know how that goes yeah it's just because he doesn't know them and i love that in front of
everybody layla's like it's because we're the sinners and i'm like that's exactly why and that's
not fair to you, but hey, here we are.
But I do like the pace of this show also.
There's not a whole lot of dead time.
No.
Because we immediately get to the unboxing.
And lo and behold, to me, not thrilled, actually, very upset.
Yeah.
What's a normal reaction if I did something to you that I knew was kind of not great?
And then you didn't take it well?
What should I feel?
You should probably feel a little sorry.
A little sorry, remorseful, maybe, embarrassed.
any of those things
what shouldn't I be
get pissed off
okay cool what shouldn't I say
this is about me
that I feel ambushed
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah are you
out of your goddamn mind
you played a prank prank didn't go well
you play narcissist and go oh my god
I'm the victim it's a fucking joke
it's just a prank like I don't understand
it because the girls were then asking because only
two of them were privy to the story that you weren't
supposed to spread in the first place
so the other girls are like what's up with the fruity pebbles
why is she so pissed off about this?
And now you have to answer something
that you already told two of the girls
like an hour ago,
but you don't want to
because it's a private moment
that you shouldn't have shared in the first place
and now you feel ambushed.
Yes.
Yeah.
You brought this on your,
you deserve to feel ambushed,
which you shouldn't even feel ambushed.
You try,
it's like when you see those idiot YouTubers
do a prank in public,
they get punched in the face
and they're like,
what the fuck?
It's a prank.
It's like you don't steal people's shit
as a quote unquote joke.
You won't get punched in the teeth.
Don't out somebody's sexual experience with her husband, by the way.
Once again, at least she's having sex with her husband.
Who's your husband having sex with, Whitney?
But regardless, why would you do that?
And then now you're going to play the victim because it didn't get taken while.
That was the most narcissistic, self-indulgent, crazy moment I've ever seen.
Yeah, it was insane.
The fact that then Demi goes around the house, comes back, obviously she's having a party,
and she has to go back and see you again, and now you're pissed off.
Now you're mad at her.
Yeah.
That makes no sense.
Like Whitney is by far the biggest Karen in this group.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Full on, like, what are you doing near my lawn to these kids just laying outside?
Absolutely, all day.
I firmly agree.
But we end the episode with a little split scene.
You get the sinners are bowling and the saints are going to a baby blessing.
And I don't think that we even have to put a poll out there to know where most people would want to go.
Yep.
We're going bowling.
Let me go bowl.
They seem like a lot more fun.
But there, this is the difference.
as well. Those girls are bowling and talking about the energy being off. They're nervous about this
upcoming trip. They're concerned about the split in the group, this four by four split that we have
right now. They're concerned about the group. On the other side, they're happy that they're not there.
That's what they're talking about, this baby blessing, which was, I didn't like it. Yeah, they're sitting
around there and they're not even really allowed to talk towards the end of it because the men need
their time to give their blessing to the baby. Dude, when I saw that,
circle. I'm like, please tell me this isn't going to be all dudes. And it's very
called. It's extremely, extremely culty. And these men are standing holding the baby.
All of the women are on the couch in prayer while the men are speaking out loud in prayer.
And we find out that only men can be in the priesthood in the Mormon religion.
Sorry, only men carry priesthood in the religion. So this is totally normal. Like, no, this is not
normal. And no, I don't care for it. And no, like, these idiots are fucking.
Zakaris Targaryen should not be the one up there.
He's an asshole, too.
So, like, I don't understand why the women can't get involved.
I don't know why they can't, is it less holy if they hop up there?
Allegedly.
Allegedly, yeah.
I just don't get it.
But, again, you know, Macy's playing this girl's trip, and now she's concerned,
and she seems to be still somewhat in the middle of the road,
even though she's with the saints.
But I don't know, man.
The hypocrisy is going to bother me more and more as we start to get further
into this crazy journey that we're on. I think you'll get used to it.
Do you? Yeah. Do you? Yeah. Do you? No. Yeah. There you go. Let's get there some questions.
From Sid Hilsey. Does the LDS purity vibe from the Saints read Alexis Blino going to two
Christmas services? Yes. That's a fucking perfect breakdown. Thank you for that.
From Travel Born, we sort of already did this, but if you want to hammer at home,
please share your thoughts on Dakota
and Zach
I hate Zach more
I'm more cautious of Dakota
I don't like him
I just I feel like he could fuck some shit up
I feel like Zach is just a
misogynistic asshole
douchebag
that wants to
cosplay as a Targary
yeah
from dad to dab
I wonder if the Mormon church
has spoken out about these women
and mom talk
they're probably excommunicated
At this point, like, they're playing themselves into being excommunicated, right?
From what I've heard, you know, fucking, what's her face?
Heather got excommunicated because her husband was doing creepy shit.
Yeah.
From CBIC 10, who do you think should host the reunion?
I hope there's a fucking reunion for the show.
Ooh.
That's a really good thing.
Heather?
Heather gay?
Heather would be fucking funny if she hosted it.
Anybody from Salt Lake, honestly.
I'd be fine with that.
Yeah.
God, who would be a good thing?
good I don't know that's tough
that's a really good question I mean
it would be funny if Andy made the jump over there but I don't think that's going to happen
Heather would be a funny one if they got Heather to do it
but yeah and that I don't I don't know maybe get like an actual bishop from the
Mormon church and just watch his reactions some of that's actually devout
not these fake phonies um this might be a little more difficult to answer because
we haven't watched all of it yet but from max June 3 should all of them be back for
season two.
As of where I stand right now, no, you don't need that many.
I don't think, yeah, you definitely don't need that many, but if they're all still involved
in the TikTok stuff, it's tough to even cut them out because they're together all the time.
Here's it.
I don't think it matters one way or the other.
Yeah, it's one of those shows where it doesn't really matter because there's a couple
people that can stand alone and then you need the fillers.
Yeah.
And again, you kind of just interchange them.
Because it's centered around a group of TikTokers.
I don't think it's not the same as like a housewives cast.
uh from c a mire 87 who is the real villain of the show and why is it
zach well i think there's a few villains i think whitney's right up there whitney's
winnie's number one jack yeah she's enemy to number one um zach is just an asshole
that dude that dude that dude's just he thinks that he's better than other people and that drives
me nuts just because he graduated from b yu sick dude the fucking loser i don't want to come to your
stupid-ass party anyway.
I'm sober. I don't want to come to your lame-ass party.
You might know this. I know that one of them
is this person, but this will be our last question.
From Kona Kai Dojo,
was one of the moms the one who went viral for
TikTok dancing while her child was in the NICU? Which one was it? Was it Taylor?
I don't remember. No, I don't think it was Taylor. I'm not sure.
But yeah. It's either Taylor or Whitney.
But yes, I do know that one of them was.
that that mom, which is a very tough look.
It's Whitney.
It was Whitney?
Uh-huh.
Of course it was Whitney.
I only said Michaela because in my brain, that's what I saw.
Whitney is seen doing a lighthearted TikTok dance next to her baby Liam as he lie in the
NICU recovering from RSV.
Jesus.
That will tell you everything you need to know about Whitney.
She is the most selfish person that uses her religion and her standing to her own personal
gain with no regard for other people.
Good call.
but I love the show
Yeah, great show
Fucking great show
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