Bros & Shows - The Traitors: Boston Rob has Entered the Game (The Traitors s03ep02 Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

What's up Bros? It is episode 2 of our Traitors recap and this show is just heating up. Boston Rob has returned to the game as a traitor along with 2 new contestants in Wes and Derrick. Sadly we lost Dorinda far too early from this game as the current traitors seem deadset on this housewives angle. Tensions in the castle are already flaring as people begin to point fingers at one another. Wells believes Robyn is a traitor and vice versa. At the challenge, the new contestants are revealed to the group. Current players try to suck up to the new players in exchange for a shield to get them through to the next day. Boston Rob ends up protecting Tony, but makes it very clear in a confessional that he is setting Tony up for later. At the roundtable, Tony, Ivar and Robyn take center stage as potential traitors and becomes clear quickly that emotions cloud judgement in this game and the table is pure chaos. After Wells is eliminated and revealed as a faithful, further chaos ensues. Groups and cliques are beginning to form and it looks like this game is about to get a lot more interesting. Boston Rob reveals himself to the traitors at the end to mixed reviews from the current traitors.... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's, I know we say this every time we cover a new show, there's a new structure that we have to get used to. Usually it's wildly entertaining and then sometimes it kind of fizzles out. This isn't one of those shows. It's not the same dynamic of like a Bravo show that we cover where you can see the pitfalls. Like, this is a game. I think that's, maybe that's what it is. I think it was more when we covered Bachelorette, that I'm thinking of. eventually. But that didn't really get stale either because that was just fun

start to finish. But that's also different because I feel like, and we're covering the Bachelor coming up with Grant Ellis, which will be fun. But I think maybe that's what, because the Bachelor is so clearly like dramatized and cinematized and like all those big moments where it's like, dun, dun, dun, with this, it's more just like panic and mayhem and chaos and people are actually shaking. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to the second episode of bros and shows, formerly the brav bros, but we're brab bros for life. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only show to my gooter. I've been working on my Scottish accent.

I think it's gotten better. You sound like fat bastard. That's fine. He's Scottish. You're on the right track. No, I know. Yeah, you take it how you can get it. Uh, welcome back everybody.

Welcome back everybody for another episode of bros and shows now covering the traitors. That's right. And we know that they released three episodes on Thursday. We wanted to give you a little bit of some action on Monday. Make sure you can sink your teeth into it. And now we're going to cover episodes two and three. They will be in separate episodes though. So as soon as you finish this one, hop right in episode three because it's right there waiting for you.

And we'll all be caught up together so that when they, drop episode four on Thursday, now we're up to speed. What we were afraid of doing is we get backlogged on this one, and we don't get it out in time, and we love this show. I think everybody listening loves this show, so we wanted to be on top of everything. So this is episode two, and we will try to get through these without spoiling. People have already made it known that they've listened to our recaps without watching, but I'm confused why it would be a spoiler.

We're going to tell you what happens anyway. Traders. So you didn't watch episode? episode one, but you listen to our recap of episode one, and you're mad that we spoiled it. No, they're not mad that we spoiled it. I'm more saying I'm trying not to spoil it, but at the same time, if you listen to the entire episode, it shall be spoiled. Correct.

Yes. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but we'll try to save things chronologically, I guess, because maybe like the payoff, that's my point. If you let him know too early in the episode, they're like, oh, come on. But it's like, well, if you listen for 30 more minutes, we're going to get there anyway. Do you see what I'm saying? Are they watching the show simultaneously listening to us? No, like some people have commented about Potomac because that one real about you ranting about Mia went viral.

And a lot of people said they're listening to us recap, but they stopped watching because of Mia. But they're still following along. So their interpretation of this season of Potomac is only what we're saying. Oh, okay. Do you understand what I'm saying? Now I get it. Are you on the same page? Now I understand.

Yeah. I got to stay chronological. That's for as well as we can. For this episode, we can't talk about who goes home. home at the round table until it happens. Yeah. Yes. As well as you can.

Fine, you got me. As well as you can. Really, you're going to say as well as you can? Yeah. Right after what I said? Well, I'm trying to spoil it. As well. Intentional spoil it.

I'm leaving that because that's funny. But let's get two traders episode number two because we got some new people in the house. They were the guys hanging out in cages. Cage boys. We got Derek from Big Brother, former detective. Yeah. Big, that's big. I think that I don't feel like enough emphasis was placed on the fact that he's a former cop slash detective.

I'm going to need his stats. Like solve rates? Yeah. Crying. Yeah. Caves solve rates. I would love to get his cellar rates. We got Wes from the Challenge, who I'm pretty sure most people that know reality shows like those kinds of survivors, Big Brother's challenge.

I think Wes is a fairly household name similar to Boston Rob. Yeah. And then you get, obviously, Boston Rob is still there from Survivor, and he's taking on the role of a traitor. The other two are faithfuls. All right, everybody caught up. Everybody caught up. All right, cool. So, we get back to the Traders' Room.

Correction, omission, if you will. I was saying that Danielle was from Survivor last episode. Big Brother. Yes, and I knew that. Did you say that? I did, but at the same time, I knew she was Big Brother, so it's just, there's a lot of people in a lot of shows. There's a lot of people here. It's a new show for us.

It was a little bit of grace. They did. They were very nice about it. All right. It was like, you're hard on yourself. I'm a tough critic, as you know. I like things to sound, I almost went back and re-edited it, so I cut it. But I was like, you know what?

Now, I'll just cut the episode two, clear everything up. She is from Big Brother. Caroline, being from Survivor, obviously. And then you got DQ Bob, who's kind of standing by letting these two go at each other. And the interesting thing you're going to see this episode, because obviously we had preconceived notions about our traders coming into last week. Now into episode two, you're seeing where they might fall short. one of them being DQ Bob. I see some things that I don't love.

Danielle, I see a lot that I'm not into. Caroline is such a wild card that I think that she is still, she's probably the least obvious traitor to me as of right now. And again, I'm jumping a little bit. But anyway, they're trying to figure out who to whack, who we're getting rid of tonight. And we had the Ivar incident with Dorinda, Captain Ivar, the magnificent, hates women,

only votes for women. Did you notice that too? Yep. Okay. And we got Caroline saying that that's too obvious. The Robin sacrifice would be in keeping with the housewife's thing. So the whole thing is housewife-centric, which we actually talked about and kind of predicted in episode one. Yeah.

Now, we obviously know who gets whacked, but during this conversation, like, what do you take away from the traitors that we have? These three before we introduce the fourth. Well, there is a lot of, and I sort of touched on this last week, that it's a completely different game for the traders. because eventually, and it didn't occur to me until about halfway through this episode, they could always turn on each other too. Oh, yeah. They could just say, you know what, you're not working, you're trying to overpower us in the meetings, you're trying to get your point across, which we see Danielle do,

because she just gets stuck. And she says, nope, I'm not budging on this. This is who I want to send home, and it's got to be one of the housewives. While everyone else is just trying to come to reason, like, all right, what kind of strategy we're playing here? Do we want just chaos? Do we need to start breaking up some of the house? these clicks. Do we need to get rid of a housewife because then it's going to look like

another housewife as a trader, trying to throw everybody out the scent. What are we supposed to do here? And Danielle's just like, no, this is what I want to do. My mind's made up. I'm not budging. You can't convince me otherwise. That's annoying. And that could get annoying. And if I was a traitor, I'd start thinking, yeah, let's get rid of Danielle. I agree. And I hope that happens because that would be pure chaos. They want to cause chaos, but chaos would be getting rid of a traitor. Well, we know that Boston Rob is going to be a traitor after down the road. So I can at least let that slip and with that when he comes into the fold later he does map out the different directions you can go look we can go for chaos or we can be a united front i think early on chaos is the move

i think they need some sort of guidance here agree they have no guidance they don't they're all kind of throwing shit at the wall like oh this would work this would work i think the most obvious play is the housewives play how much time do you think they get in there in the turret i don't know that's a good question i also like an hour an hour half an hour yeah Fuck, if you need an hour to figure this out, maybe. I don't know. An hour would be a good amount of time, I feel. That's a pretty big chunk of time.

That's what I'd request. Especially when you have Danielle who's over here, like putting her foot in the ground at minute one. And also you have to sneak out of your bedroom? That's part of it. I love that. I saw something. I don't think they actually sleep in the castle. Oh.

Not to ruin the Mirage, but I think they sleep elsewhere and they're bust in the morning. Oh, that's annoying. Didn't that kind of bum me out? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I read that. I don't know if that's true. Somebody please debunk that and tell me I'm wrong. I want them to sleep in.

the castle. Like I said last week, I want this to all be real until they're allowed to leave. Like when the cage boys are caging, I want them to be in there overnight. Just covered their hoods on so they can't see anything. Yes, and covered in a shroud. So when they pull it the next morning, it's like, oh my God, we've actually been in a cage all night. That adds a different element to the game. These boys are cold. Yeah. Fuck, they're pissed off. Now you're going to have different alliances for me because the boys in the cage are cold. So hopefully they do that on purpose, but it doesn't matter. We get to breakfast and there's a lot of chit-chat going on, right?

There's people walk. Everyone's trying to figure out who got killed. So people get to breakfast. Then you have like the dramatic entry of everybody in. I love the dramatic entry for people that we know are safe. Right. Yeah. We saw all of these people get into the shield.

We know they're safe. You're fine. I have an idea of who was in that shield. So when they're walking in, I'm like, oh, yeah, they were safe. Why are we doing this? What's the drama here? The drama is always the last group that comes in. That's all it really is.

So that's what we're waiting on because the last thing that we saw was them talking about getting rid of a housewife, Danielle wasn't going to budge on it, that's where we're going to end up. We just don't know if it's going to be Derinda or Robin at this moment, and that's what we're waiting for. Correct. But the best, and it continues each episode, each scene that he's in, Tom is so bad at this game and finding out who's not cool. Oh, it's incredible. He's sitting there, like, chit-chatting with Danielle with the housewives theory. And that's the other thing about the housewives theory, about taking them down. It's so obvious that if anybody, if this happened, and of course, you know, Monday morning quarterback, as I sit

on the couch and watch this, I'm like, I would crush this game. Like, I would think the same thing right? I would win. I think you and I would be the finalist and we'd have to kill each other. Like, there's no doubt in my mind. But again, Monday morning quarterbacking, but as I'm sitting there listening to Sandavall talk to her, he's like, you know what, Daniel? I've always had a really good feeling about you. It's like, you always for 24 hours. You have a really bad eye. And you're blinded by a vendetta because all you can see is Crischel because she's friends with your ex that you're so goddamn sweaty. Yeah, why are you sweating so much?

You just woke up. And if you are going to sweat, and we've heard about Sandoval's hygiene, this is nothing new to us. Why, you're wearing a gray shirt, wear a black shirt, or wear a kilt. Over your, uh, over your, uh, over your, killed the entire time. Yeah, over your upper body as well. Yeah. Wear the outfit you wore to Bravo con when you were doing a push-up contest on stage. There you go.

Yeah. That's cool, man. But everyone's worried about ion, which in my, wow. have in your hindsight my head with ion if i'm a traitor she's not even in the discussion no it would make zero sense to send her home why would you that's such a safe bet to be like she's oh we don't have to consider her she's not going to be a problem she's not hurting anybody so the minute that she walks in everyone she's like oh she's safe thank thank god she's either the smartest person in the world because she's acting like she doesn't even know what the game is and how to play it and she's leaning on

Wells to talk to him about how to play the game. Yeah. And how do you play this game, Wells? All I really want to do is just match outfit for outfit with Alan. That's the only thing I have on my mind right now. Correct. Why would you send her home? Why would you even consider it? I don't know. Housewives, I get Robin, you know, she talks a lot and you can start thinking like, oh, yeah, maybe she's trying to throw people off. Maybe she's a traitor. Who knows? You keep her around because they'll vote her off. She's going to get voted off, actually. She's going to talk herself into a into a position of less power.

I don't really get the housewife's tactic. And I did say last week that I do want to see the game played at the best of its ability. But there are certain things that I don't want to see. And that's Ion going home, Derinda going home, really Dolores going home. I don't need to see a pile up. I went like Tom gone, of course.

Sierra, I continue to forget that she's even on the show. She played a role later. It's awesome. Great position for her. But sending Ion would make no sense. Derinda, I get because you're trying to do the Ivar angle. Fine.

Because he got into an argument with her. Like, maybe it's him because he's taking a vendetta. But everybody's going to realize, you don't just send somebody home because you got into an argument with them. Because it's too obvious. Because it's too obvious. Because it has to be a strategy. Correct.

And the thing with Ivar is like, once you make this decision, because we find out very shortly that Dorenda gets whacked, nobody presses the Ivar thing. Nope. I'm like listening to everyone's conversations. I'm like, all right, traitors. Let's start planting some seeds. Let's walk around and start the Ivar conversation because what you're going to do is cause mayhem because if you're not even mentioning the other housewives, right, which is the

angle that most people are taking. Oh, it's got to be a housewife. We keep getting rid of housewives. If that's your angle, then plan a seat about Ivar. No one talked about him after the fact, and that bugged me. So he kind of gets off Scott Free. But it does point the finger now everyone is so focused on the housewives because, again, that's the obvious choice. Our boy, A.C., Alan Cummings comes in, and this is where Sandval debuts is pit stains. The juxtaposition Our first bros and shows juxtaposition And our first juxtaposition of 2025 Everyone take note

Of Danielle And DQ Bob Okay In this moment DQ Bob is crying Yeah He is actually upset Because he feels bad

That he sent Duren to home He's filled up with a little bit of emotion I think he leaned into it Great play Yeah great play because real tears Yep Look to his left Danielle

Fake tears Quite obvious keeps drawing attention to herself in a negative way, in my opinion. As I'm scanning the room, and I know they keep highlighting her face, I'm like, you look guilty as shit. And I think this is going to play further into it later

because every single time that she gets on the screen and tries to defend or point the finger elsewhere, I never buy it. No, I never buy it either. And also, this would be a really good opportunity for Tom to start staring at people's faces again. Yeah. Instead of right after the blindfold reveal.

Correct. Do it now to see what their reaction is. Because the bar... Oh, Dyrinda's not here. Who doesn't look actually surprised? Who's doing too much right now? That's when you start taking notes, Tom. Mm-hmm.

I agree. I agree. But everyone starts speculating. It's the speculation station. Robin, Sam, and Jeremy, they're speculating. DQ Bob comes up a little bit. Robbins says absolutely not in no way. And she reads people well.

Super well. Super well's. She reads people super wells. Yep. She doesn't read people super well. But I will say later on, I don't think she's doing a horrible job. And that goes into episode three. She's trying to play.

Which is more than you can say for a lot of people. Yeah, I think she's doing enough. I just think that she gets stuck on certain people such as Wells and locks in on that. Dylan seems to be the most aware, but at the same time, he befriends Danielle. That's confusing to me. But I wonder if this is a gameplay and like this is something I think I would do. I don't know if you're allowed. Are you allowed to let it be known to somebody that you are a traitor?

Like, could I walk up to say a Dylan and say, hey, man, we need to talk. Meet me in the bookcase wine cellar and be like, look, man, I'm a traitor. I know you're a faithful. We're going to team up. What would be the strategic advantage of that? Because I will protect you in the round table, but I need you to throw everyone off of my scent. I will throw them off of yours and get you in, I'll get you far in this game. But you know that I'm a trader, and you're not going to turn on me.

I think it's a pretty big risk. But a big reward, because you have an ally on the other team for an extended period of time. Is that allowed? And has that been done? I don't know. I don't know. That's not a bad move, though. That's what I...

You've got to think outside the box in these games. This is the third season. You're going to do something no one else has done before. Exactly. Tell them to your trade. Probably not allowed to tell a faithful that you're a traitor. But why? I don't know.

I don't know. You know, I just think that would be an interesting, interesting play, but... With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot track side. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Pre-sale tickets for future events subject to availability. and vary by race.

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The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. Robin joins the Survivors' Room, and Wells is there as well, no pun intended, and he thinks it's a dumb move to get rid of Durinda. He's 100% correct, right? That was a stupid move, because if you keep her around, she's going to keep causing shit, like the IVR scene, stuff like that. She's going to throw people off the scent. If I am a traitor, I'm keeping her around to do that, to create that chaos that you guys clearly want from this rather than get rid of her, the other housewise that are still available, a little more soft-spoken. They're not going to cause a scene. You can get Dolo to go off, but it takes a lot, as we know.

Yes. And I will say right off the bat with this show, there are certain times. You watch game shows like this. You watch The Bachelor, Bachelorette. We have theories about specifically Grant going home early. He could have lasted a little bit longer, but he's the Bachelor, so they sent him home. It doesn't seem very authentic. Some of it gets played up.

Some of it goes, obviously, through producers. It looks like this game doesn't do that, because Durinda's got to be one of your bigger names for the people coming over to watch from Bravo. though, and Dorinda goes home immediately. People are mad about it. We're very upset about that. Same thing goes with, we talked about it before. When Boston Rob shows up, it's like, well, there's no way he's going to go home this early. I'm getting the indication here that it doesn't fucking matter.

They're actually just letting them play. I think so. There's no one in their ears. There's no producer coming over saying, no, you can't vote for them, stopping the traders on their way in saying, no, you can't send Derinda home. She's too big of a name. They're just letting them play it out. And I appreciate that.

I do too, because it would make the show a lot less watchworthy. if they're in their ears. They're actually letting me play it out. But what you do see, and this is what's so interesting about this kind of game, people are getting too emotionally invested with their picks. Because now Robin's pissed at Wells, because Wells called her stupid, essentially. Wells is pissed at Robin because he thinks that she's the traitor. But it becomes a personal vendetta where it's like, well, fuck you, we'll fuck you too,

rather than keeping the big picture at hand. And I think that that's where you're going to see the seasoned vets of Survivor. The challenge, big brother, play that card, but not do it intentionally, whereas a housewife or Wells, who's kind of a standalone as well, a Dylan, the people that aren't coming from a background of those types of shows. Because Wells is Bachelor, correct? Yes. So that's a difference.

That's our Paradise now, yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's the bartender, right? Yeah, I knew I knew his face. You know where I watched Bachelor in Paradise? Where? Rehab. Hey, yo.

I knew the answer to that. Hey, no. Thanks, bro. Appreciate you. Yeah, we'd watch it every week together. It was on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. It was our favorite nights because we got to watch TV late. Anyway, we get to the mission.

And I kept calling them challenges, but like missions better. And that's when they walk up to the cages in the woods. We're about to be reintroduced to Boston Rob, Wes, and Derek, right? The game is coin collecting, and you put it in a little thing. And the more coins you put in, the lower the cage goes. Each individual member has an immunity shield to get you through to the next day. So everyone is now trying to blow Boston Rob. They're trying to blow Derek because they know he's a detective.

Wes gets left out in the cold for a while, but it starts adding up. Everybody comes down. The funniest part is as people are trying to suck up, the three in the cage are like a tenacious trio. Everyone wants them on their team. Everyone's afraid of them, especially Boston Rob, because B. Rob got smoked early on. So everyone's trying to get their attention. Hey, man, I'm Derek. Or I guess Derek's in the cage.

Hey, I'm Bob. They're trying to become allies with them as they let them down, but it's funny because each confession you get from the cage bros, they're like, oh, I don't fucking care. They're like, yeah, get me down. I don't like, I don't know who that person is. What are they, a housewife? I have no idea what's going on here.

It doesn't matter to them. So they're just, they're all in this for the game and they're all season bets. So they're going to be a formidable trio when they come into it. But I think Jeremy has the right approach. And I think that anybody that has people from their network or from their respective show needs to link up with them. And Jeremy's like, I'm going for Boston Rob. He's a former survivor.

We're going to bring him into the survivor fold. We can all help each other get through. My only issue with that is, as we see, there's too much bad blood amongst the survivors, and eventually that's going to show its face. Yeah, that's definitely going to happen. I was actually surprised that they were able to get all three of them down. I was too.

Very surprised. Especially towards the end. I'm like, they're playing a little bit of a trick on us with the time. I thought so because there was like five minutes left, and Wes wasn't even close. And then it's like, three more points. And it was three. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't think that they hit that buzzer-beater. I bet you there was about 10 seconds left before that last one came in there. But I don't care. If that's my only gripe, that's my only gripe. I'm okay with that. But to your point, these are not people. I guess Derek, maybe of the three or is somebody that you might be able to trust. You can't trust Boston Rob.

No. Or for sure his shit can't trust West. He's the snakiest of the three. He's worse than Boston Rob. Which is saying a lot. Yeah. And he will tell you that right to your face, which you appreciate it. But you just want to try to get the.

that shield because it's the only shield you can get. And at the end of the day, all of the people that are introducing themselves, they have no chance. Just zero chance. No. You're not going to get saves. They don't know who you are. No, you got to play cool. Nobody played cool.

I did love, I forget who Ion is talking to. Was it Derek asking if he was on TikTok? No, you're on TikTok? He was Wes. You on TikTok? Yeah, you on TikTok? No way she knows the challenge. Great.

Here's a coin for you. Thanks. Yeah, you got a pity coin from Ion. But hey, they got the ball rolling. That was the first. coin he got, wasn't it? But Dylan, again, I think his gameplay is the best. I think he's a little too trustworthy, but I think his gameplay thus far as the best. He recognizes Boston Rob is a good ally. So he wants to get him down again. B. Rob does not care about it. I have to

highlight how Tom Sandoval runs. Yeah. Because it looked like a scene from Die Hard. He was going, like, I mean, elbows up. He got like fucking sawdust all over his head. Well, everybody's like, you can tell all the survivor people because they've got good, form and they're moving fast. Yeah, and then you got Tom running in slow motion. Yeah, he looks like chariots of fire, like running around the woods. But they get everybody down. Again, the timing seems suspect, but everyone's down.

And we find out newbies, they can't be killed, but they can't vote at the round table either. Yep. Fair trade. It is a fair trade. Tony sucks up to be, Rob, which was a, I didn't like it. I thought it was a bad move. I thought Tony, he's already got a target on his back. as we know. And I think him and him and Boston Rob are just, they're too, uh, I don't know,

similar. Yeah. Similar to get along. I didn't feel. Tony wants to be Boston Robb? Oh, maybe. Maybe that's why he was so hurt later. Heiled his game off of them, yeah. You think that he stole a little bit of Boston Rob's play? Yeah, maybe. I kind of like that. But just to further my point of Sandoval not having a clue, he says that DQ Bob and Caroline are definitely solid. Yeah. Of, Of everybody here, because he's given Boston Rob. He has now gone to all three traitors. Yes. And said, you're good in my book.

I trust you. Smart man. And he's standing there. They walk into the castle after everything, and they go to, like, the picture frames on the wall. And of all the people, and I'm sure these guys don't know who the fuck Tom Sandoval is. Of all the people in this house to listen to, like, a recap of, hey, what did I miss? He's the worst that you possibly could because he's literally telling you that the traders are cool. So the best is Boston Rob is like, okay.

And then you get Wes like, who fuck is this guy? This is all, this all bullshit. I don't believe anything he's saying. It's like, all right, Wes, he's going to be dangerous because you see through him already. But inevitably, you start to see groups forming. And we knew it was going to happen. Obviously, Danielle, she wants to kill Boston Rob immediately. I think anybody that has a survivor background realizes how dangerous he is.

They realize how dangerous Tony is. Those guys have a big crosshair on their back. It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out. But the groups start to form. And here's who we have. You ready? We got the big bros. The big brother people?

Big brothers. Oh, Jesus, I'm an idiot. Yeah, you got the big brothers. That's the big brother crew. They're sticking together somewhat. You got Danielle and you got Derek. Okay, you got the Survivor crew. They have, for the most part, been sticking around.

Just you got Boston Rob, obviously moving in the shadow. I was trying to figure what's going on. You got Jeremy with Drag Queen Bob. Jeremy thinks DQ Bob is cool. Then you got Dylan and Wells, which I actually thought would have been a great combo. I think those two complimented each other. really well, level-headed, seem to know enough to get them through the game, but she can't account for emotions, and that's going to come into play a little bit later. But let's get to the

roundtable. As we go into this, what are you thinking? What are you feeling like who's going to speak up? Is it going to be a pro-traders thing? Is it going to, what's your vibe as we walk into the roundtable? Because my heart's already beating. Yeah, no, first vibe was there can't be a traitor to start talking. That's what I thought. Yeah. Because I thought that's, again, too obvious. Way too obvious to get the ball rolling with a trader talking. At least in my mind, that's how it would have worked. It is. And of course, the first person to open up this whole thing is DQ Bob.

He starts in talking about what's going on. And I do understand where he's coming from. If I'm the one that I spoke up last week, if I speak up again, I'm just kind of keeping that same role. People aren't going to question anything. But this is a game that I do believe must be played differently week to week or day to day. I don't think you can have the strain. the same strategy. You cannot have the same strategy

on a Tuesday that you're going to have on Wednesday. No, definitely not, but you did just get an infusion of three new players. Correct. So your numbers are still to your advantage.

That's true. Only three of you that are traders, obviously Boston Robbins as well, but they don't know that yet. So there's only three of you that are traders. You got rid of Derinda, so you should be a man down.

Instead, you've got three new people. Yes. So you're still in a good, strong advantage. So might as well keep doing the same thing that you're doing, until those numbers start to dwindle and people are like all right shit who didn't we go after okay who have we not gone after who's talking a lot then dq bob goes right back into the chamber okay the uh the kill chamber

chamber of secrets yeah i like that the chamber of secrets yep that's what i'm thinking anyway is harry potter united kingdom scotland close yep close enough yep i'm right there with you so i think that's what i'm thinking and obviously everyone's a little too scared to start speaking because they don't want to get a target. If you point somebody out, they're immediately just going to point right back at you. Correct. That's how it works. That's how this is always going to work unless somebody has an agenda towards somebody else. We're going to see this start to change, I feel like, over the next few weeks, where people are speaking up, but they're only speaking up against somebody if they have some sort of hard fact or they've created some sort of click. Right. Right now, I think it's

still just whoever talks too much and is too emotional and looks a little guilty, everybody's going to start voting for them. But that's my problem with the gameplay at this point, with a lot of the people in the room. There's not enough people like actually talking up. Like we find out in episode three, the girls are the Bambies. Yes. Like Nikki Bella and Chrisley and. It's Chrisel.

Chrisel, Gabby, and Nikki Bella. They're the Bambies. Yes. They're just all going to vote together. Yes. That's pretty much what we're going to see at this point. I'm okay with that, because then you can look around and be like, all right, well, these three are going to vote for whoever.

Like, you can start to figure out who you think's going to get whack. And Chrisel's the only one who actually speaks up in this roundtable. Yes. So it does get a little weird, and obviously that is just a personal vendetta. 100%. She just wants Tom out of the game. Totally fine with it. All of us want Tom out of the game.

So I am fully behind her. Yep, me too. I don't care that he's not a traitor. It doesn't matter to me. Get him out. He's dumb. Yeah. He's dumb and he has pit stains.

He is not going to help you. He's going to derail all of your theories because you should just do the opposite of what he's thinking. If I'm a honestly, dude, if I'm a traitor, I am just, I'm radicalizing Sandoval. I'm getting in his ear about, because he is so easy to point at somebody. And if you get him on the right,

because he trusts everyone. That's the best part. He's like, the only reason he's anti-Crochelle is because she's friends with Ariana. It's got to be her. It's like, no, she just knows you're a fucking snake, dude, more so than the other people here. By the way, the minute you walked up,

DQ Bob was like, I'm not fucking saying hi to that guy. That was episode one. So people know who you are. Chrisel really knows who you are, as she makes very clear shortly. I think that's the worst way to play this game is coming in with a chip on your shoulder.

That's what I got scared of in our last episode's recap. Because now everybody's going to look at him and say, well, he can't be a traitor. He's too bad at this game. Correct. And he's going to hang around forever. He might be here for a while. He might be here till the end.

He's such an airhead. We have to mentally prepare for the fact that Tom Sandoval might be here until the end unless he does something that just pisses everybody off and they all waste a vote just to throw it out of him. They may, he may have been up for debate in episode three. I cannot confirm nor deny. Yeah.

I firmly believe that if he does not get whacked in episode three, he's here. I don't think he's going to be up for conversation again for a while because he's just too, he just doesn't seem like a traitor at all. The only way he's gone is if the trader's like, like you said, fuck this guy. Everybody can tell how dummy is right away. That's what I'm saying. I like this episode's just turning into bashing him. He didn't really do a whole lot in this episode.

And even in the next step, He still doesn't do a whole lot, but there's going to be enough there for us to bash him. Yeah. And that's what we're here for. He deserves it because it's just, even in this, God damn it, there's still no accountability. Anyway, can't take accountability. You can't do it. It's like, he's still, even when Chrisel calls him out, he's like, okay, dude.

I'm like, fuck off, buddy. But DQ Bob points the finger at Wells. All right, Wells defends himself. But then Robin jumps in, and this is when you start to see that this roundtable will continue be divided because of emotions. She's pissed off that he more or less called her stupid. The Dorinda pick, because she said it's genius, it's so

smart. Yes, in an obvious kind of way. That was the obvious move because she's got shit with Ivar. There are a lot of dumb people on this guy. There's a lot of unintelligent people. But I will say Robin's gameplay in episode three when we get there wasn't horrible. She's starting, I think that

she's going to be better than I gave her credit for and I will say that. I don't particularly like Robin if you've listened to our other podcast about Potomac last year you can tell that but she's at least playing she's playing she's trying something and that's something i can appreciate because again there are so many duds right now and i know that when the numbers start to dwindle everybody's going to step it up a little bit but right now there's too many people that are just kind of lurking in the background just really hoping they don't make any waves so nobody votes for them and that look that's a smart play

right early on yeah it's a smart play early on it will draw attention to yourself eventually but early on if you want to stay out of the limelight i do understand that but Tom has to speak up, and he's like, look, man, I pulled off my mask first, my blindfold, and I was looking around the room, was looking to everybody's face. The first people I noticed was Chrisel and Jeremy. And Chrisel's like, well, yeah, the reason that you noticed me is because you were staring at me the minute I took my thing off, didn't move your eyes. And we had a, I didn't know it.

I don't know why they wouldn't have showed this. I'm a little irritated at that. She's like, look, we had a conversation about our connection. Yeah. And she's very careful not to say Ariana's name, which is funny, because we all know. obviously. And she's like, you know, we talked about, I know your ex. We're going to leave that to the side. We're going to play this game. But if you're going to call me out, and she says, you may be uncomfortable. You threw me under the bust and you caused the most chaos. And if I'm

anybody in the room, I'm looking at Tom now. But at the same time, if you use your brain at all, it's like, you can clearly see that this guy doesn't have a plan. He's just throwing shit at the wall. And when she brings up the fact that she knows his ex, that's when it becomes clear. It's like, all right, well, Tom's just trying to get her off the show. Which also means that the Tom's probably not a traitor because this is a personal vendetta. So by being stupid and having too much emotion in the game, he actually takes the target off of himself, I think. Yeah, no, he does. I think that everybody starts to realize this guy is really bringing a personal vendetta to the table.

He's not trying to play the game. He's just trying to get rid of somebody who doesn't like him. Correct. That is a really dumb play, and no trader would do that. No, I don't think so either. If he really wanted to do that, he would have convinced the rest of the traitors to kill Chrisel last night. Well, he thinks the traitors are faithfuls. Yeah, all three of them.

Exactly. Yeah, so he is playing so dumb that everybody just immediately just stops looking at Tom. Yeah, well, he's not playing dumb. He's just dumb. This is turning into a Tom bashing session. I don't hate it. It is what it is. We're going to keep trucking because Daniel speaks up, points the finger at all the housewives,

which is the obvious play. And again, I'm actually shocked that more people aren't. They start to point at her later, but the way that she's doing everything when their whole group is together just seems so blatantly obvious to me. I know. If the play, as everyone has discussed in their respective little groups, they've all talked about this Housewives move. Well, it makes a lot of sense. It also makes a lot of sense for this to be a smokescreen.

Then you've got somebody from a different show here pointing a finger at all of the Housewives, pointing the finger at Robbins, saying that it becomes pretty clear between the fake tears and that she becomes my first suspect as a traitor. Yeah, I mean, we know she's a traitor, so it's easy to say that. Hindsight, of course. Hindsight, of course. No, I mean, I agree with you. but I would say if I were a traitor and everybody knows about the housewife thing and people are maybe starting to suspect

it could be just a smokescreen, you'd need to just throw a random name out there. You need to cause chaos. That's what they wanted. They wanted the chaos. They did. They did end up causing chaos through drag queen bob. Yes, drag queen without him, he wouldn't have done it.

He was able to just bring up Wells and then just take a step back and not talk about it. Let everybody else start fighting over it. And then maybe people forget that he's the one who threw the name out there. Yeah, but that's the way to do it. Agreed. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure.

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Try it with maple brown butter today at Tim's. At Tim's, at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. But what they're doing now, by Danielle being so hell-bent on this, and we saw this in the Traders' meeting, she's so hell-bent on the Housewife thing, it's almost like she's doing the same thing that Robin's doing. Robin's talking about how smart it is. Danielle's like, yeah, it really was smart. Let's just keep playing this up. So everybody's like, wow, that was a really smart move by the traders to do this. Everybody give me props without actually giving me props directly.

Yep. I'm going to toot my own horn here for a second. Let's look at the Housewives. Yep. It's like, just back off. You don't have to do that. You already made your play. You made your play, let it work out for you.

The good thing is, and I think that by calling it out, Bob Harper, Bob H, actually did a disservice because he points out, this is what the traders want, this is what they want. They're causing chaos. Look at us. We're all arguing with each other. And then Alan Cummings and goes, times up. And so I think by Bob highlighting the fact that it is mayhem in this room, I think that at the end of that conversation, that wipes the slate clean almost now where everyone's

like, fuck, it is chaos in here. I don't know who to point my finger at. It's all just led by emotion. Basically, who's everybody else probably going to vote for? That's what it becomes. It's not even who looks the most suspicious. It's who is everybody else going to vote for? You talk the most about other people.

Yeah, so that I can write that name down, and I'm just kind of going to go with the flow here. And nobody's going to look at me and be like, well, that was a random vote. What's up with you? If I vote for this person that I know that everybody else is going to vote for, I'm just going to kind of blend them with the crowd. Exactly. They're trying to blend. They're trying to figure out who's going to get voted for. And the obvious one.

And again, emotion got the best. best of him because Wells in his responses to everybody was too heated he looks so defensive at everybody who was so shocked that he was getting called out you got to play it cool man you came in way too hot so the votes start coming in and wells gets five he gets Sam Jeremy Tony Robin and Caroline all vote for Wells the other front runners were Robin with four Ivar with four and of course Ivar voted for a woman I think he's going to vote for a woman every single time probably he's the worst like I can't stand that guy but I just hate the defense too it's like if your name gets thrown out why are you

not like laughing playing it off looking at Robin and being like are you really going to vote for me because I said that the theory was dumb when you said it was genius you got upset about that it's weird that you got upset about it I'm allowed to bash a theory I don't care yeah say that just do that and then just laugh it off and then stop talking he's like what the fuck he gets too pissed he gets way too pissed off the votes keep coming in then he does a slow clap yeah classic yeah slow clap like oh you fucking mori And I do think that he was one of the smarter people playing this game. I think that's a big L for the faithfuls because you don't want to lose your good players either.

I think that he was underestimated because he's a bachelor or from the Bachelor universe. I think that they're going to miss having Wells on their team. I do like that Chrisel takes the opportunity here to roast Tom saying that, well, the traitor needs to be able to, because she voted for him. And she's like, the traders need to be able to lie, cheat and deceive. And I know that you can do that very well. I'm like, oh, yeah, get him. Yeah, fuck that guy. One of those an episode.

I agree. But Wells gets banished, and the aftermath is just straight up confusion because he lets everybody know he's a faithful. Everybody realizes they're not even close to anything except. And it didn't take that much to get to this point, which is what was funny to me. Dylan sniffs out DQ Bob. He goes to the side with Ion, and I think Robin was with him as well. And he's like, guys, who was the first? It seems so simple.

Who was the first one to bring up Wells? Yeah. Drag Queen Bob. Ah, maybe we should look at him. Ion and Robin are both like, oh, duh, that makes so much sense. No, Robin said immediately that he's not. No, Robin said she agrees. Right there she did.

Trust the notebook. Every single time that she said it that I remember, every single time that she said anything about drag queen Bob, and this goes even to the third episode she's talking about it, she loves them. Maybe she was out on him. Absolutely not. Right here, I know if I wrote it down. Robin should get voted out. The way that she just keeps flopping back and forth, though.

That's why she's not going. Because she does that, and because she speaks up. I mean by the faithfuls, not by the traitors. The traitors would never want to kill Robin. No, she is too easy to like, she can fall on the sword and nobody will even know it. I feel like the faithful need to look at her and be like, what's going on here? Well, she's causing chaos. And like that's their plan as of now is to cause chaos rather than be united for.

So, yeah, I think Robin is a great person to have unknowingly on your team because she's going to point fingers in a lot of directions and confuse the shit out of people. because what she can't falter for is her conviction. When she gets locked in on somebody, she's like, no, that's him. I know that's a traitor. I know that's a traitor, and she's not going to budge. And the other part of it is, because she thinks she's smart, she'll hammer at home with evidence. I saw this, I saw this, I saw that.

That's the perfect person. If I'm like a Boston Rob, right, I'm in her ear about who I want to get off the show next and why. Very carefully. And I think that's what B. Rob does so much better than everybody up till this point, at least. When he wants to plant a seed, it's very methodical. It's not, it's like a side comment or a passing comment, and then he kind of leaves to let it ruminate. It's almost like an inception.

You put a seed in there and you let it grow. I like his little line at the end of the round table, too, where he's walking out. He just goes, well, now I'm even more confused. Yes, like that kind of stuff. It's just little. Because you are a newbie, and that's expected of you. Right. You didn't know what the hell was going on.

You had dumbass Tom Sandoval trying to explain things to you. That made you really confused, probably. or you just listen to him and just go with the opposite. I don't think he trusted Tom. I don't think he even listen to Tom. I don't think Wested either. But walking out of there, you want to be like, yeah, now I have no idea what the fuck's going on.

I agree. I agree. But we get the shields are doled out. And let's see, you get Boston Rob gives his to Tony. Yep. Tony says he's embedded to him. I think he's indebted to him. He's embedded.

He's embedded inside of him. Yep. So then you get Derek. He gives it to Dylan. and Wes gives his to Jeremy Boston Robb admittedly is like I'm giving him the shield to fucking kill him I'm like I love that

and it shows you that that guy's a formidable opponent Wes and Derek Derek seems to be and I agree with you your sentiment early on the nicest of the three I think he's actually looking for an ally I think he just plays the game a little different yeah I think he can still be ruthless if he needs to be

but he seems more approachable right I want allies I'm not necessarily going to fuck you over I will if I have to but I want a team. Wes just seems completely cutthroat. Like in your face. I don't think that he hides it because when he talks to the people,

he literally's like, fuck that. Like, I'm not doing that shit. Boston Rob is the snaky one that's going to put his arm around you and then stab you in the gut when you're not paying attention. So great additions to this show and you get the traitor meeting

at the end of this whole thing. And that's when Boston Rob enters as they're convening about who to whack next. Big reveal. Oh my God. and then they discuss. Got to discuss. We got to discuss.

But overall, I loved this episode. I get surprised at the pace of it because it's an hour long. It doesn't feel like it. It feels like 20 minutes. Like as I'm sitting there watching it, we get to the end. And I'm like, oh, I guess we're done now. But I want more. Luckily for us, there is more.

We got another episode to cover. We've got another episode to cover. And don't worry, if you asked questions, we're going to cover them in episode three. Yes. That way we don't have any weird crossover where some of you are asking questions from episode three and episode two, and then we have to do more work. Correct. We don't want to do that. No.

Because we have to watch a zillion shows for the next. For the foreseeable future, there's a billion shows on. At least like three weeks, yeah. Yeah, longer. I don't even know. I'm just thinking of Salt Lake's reunions. Oh, Salt Lake will settle down soon. But then Atlanta's got a start soon.

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