Bros & Shows - The Traitors Finale Saved the Season (The Traitors Full Recap)

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

What's up Bro-Faithfuls? SPOILER ALERT! WE REPEAT! SPOILER ALERT! PLEASE STOP GETTING MAD AT US FOR SPOILING THE EPISODE IN A RECAP OF... THE EPISODE (love youse) The Traitors finale was everything we needed it to be. It starts out with the big reveal that Britney did in fact vote for Danielle sending her packing. That being said, Danielles sign off and departure completely shifted our perspective of her gameplay this season. Credit where credit is due. Britney is the lone traitor left and the seer which arguably put more of a target on her back. She picks Gabby to reveal she is in fact a faithful and the remaining castmembers are all playing the speculation game. Britney and Dylan are drawing the most suspicion amidst the group, but Dylan is steadfast on voting out Britney at the roundtable. The roundtable is explosive to say the least as Britney mounts her case against Dylan. The last person is banished from the castle which leaves 4 players remaining as they head to the fire pit to find out their fate. Will they leave as faithfuls? Will someone else get voted out? We wont spoil the ending for youse. But this episode did in fact make this season substantially better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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you go I mean I've got a man crush on Dylan Ephron but yeah I think everybody does yeah everybody does that's that's not news anywhere we're not a news podcast we're just trying to catch up we are journalists yeah pros and shows I got to have me my pros and shows Shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host. Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only for the last time.

I'm going to miss doing this. Shooter-Moguter. Are you a traitor? Are you a faithful? Or are you a fucking podcaster? The last one. But I want to start this episode off. It's good.

I mean, spoilers about. There's always spoilers. Fuck the spoilers. The season's over. We're going to be done protecting. I love our listeners more than anything. We're aware of spoilers. What if we put like a disclaimer at the beginning of the episode that just said,

be aware there might be spoilers if you haven't watched this episode yet. Like, do people listen? We have this conversation every week. I'm done with it. Done with it. We're spoiling everything. I'm going to make the title. The title of the episode is, yes, there's spoilers in the finale of the traitors.

Yeah. Of course. And I'm not even going to talk. about like who won or anything right now but like we know we're going to talk about it at some point what i want to start off the episode is i need i'm personally apologizing to the big brother fans that are cool because there are a lot of comments on our last video about traders where i was show shaming and i shouldn't have show shamed i'm really sorry i apologize you guys are cool because they were cool about it they left the comment like hey don't show shame like you're not that made me feel

bad all right you're good you're right the assholes on twitter they got their comeuppance so fucking hard and I'm so happy for that because there were people out there saying I've got spoilers Danielle and Brittany walk away as the winners and everybody underneath is like one why would you post this two go to hell and of course that's pretty much how you want to go out

yeah dude oh it was it was bad I think it's because I was reading so many of them just like seething reading through all these people that are like you guys are so lame you want your Bravo people to win and that's the other thing the bravo people are so nice they're so and we we've had issues with some bravo people when we talk about opinions that they get upset about us but mainly jersey mainly jersey just mainly jersey but the bravo people that are just watching the show to see people like dorinda dolores eye on

like all of these people that you've seen on bravo tom sandoval they're not mean about it they're like oh yeah it was it was fun while it lasted like yeah after the first episode they wondered why all the housewives went away which and he was in the reunion as well but they weren't mean about it the big brother people the survivor people are nice the big brother people were assholes they're like if you don't want to play this game like this is a game playing type of game if you're not ready for that these bravo people are just not bringing it it's like these bravo people are bringing personalities your big brother people are bringing shitty strategies that's what's happened yeah that's the funniest part because i read through some of it um especially

like youtube and stuff like that and i just made me laugh over and over again because the people that are getting upset about us challenging the gameplay, it was not good gameplay. It did work out. And Danielle, I did shift my narrative after watching her exit. I was like, oh, wow, that was more than I thought about her. And so it did change my perspective of her gameplay throughout the season a little bit. So I will rescind on that one. But everybody else, like, the credit I can give her is that she was laser focused on this plan. Whatever this plan was, she's, did not deviate from that plan didn't care what she had to do to win she was going to do it respect there okay everyone else the plans were not plans they were dare i say concepts of plans and apparently

concepts of plans as we see don't work so this whole thing watching you know west watching the the faithful try to figure it up then watching the traders just attack each other that's not good gameplay what we watched this season was a comedy of errors that ended up working out that's all it was it was entertaining the finale did bring it back in a really good way thank god it did yeah we kind of yeah we were dragged down the last three episodes i feel like but this the finale helped out a lot i thought brittany's gameplay was exceptional and she tried so goddamn hard and she she was throwing out different strategies in this episode that i didn't even think of and i'm like well all right she's she's made for this this makes a lot of sense but yeah like you said it's a

comedy that ended up working because it was so chaotic and it wasn't controlled chaos as i think the drag queen said in the reunion he's like that's what we were going for we're going for controlled chaos like no it was just chaos and that's the whole thing that ended up at this point even before this round table and this is kind of where we pick up the episode we find out brittany votes out daniel that was the last vote that was the cliffhanger we all thought like all right they're just dragging this on they know that there's another episode so they want to keep us engaged And if people see that Brittany voted for, I guess Iver was the other one, if Britney voted for Iver and then we go to a coin flip, like, yeah, that's kind of there's some drama there. But if Danielle ends up winning, it's not really going to matter.

People are going to be upset about it because people are upset about Danielle and her gameplay and all of that and whatever. And I don't even care about the grandkids thing anymore. Every trader thus far was voted off by another trader. That's how it worked. Every single trader. And Brittany is the last one standing. She was just recruited last week. she's the last one standing.

She can't physically be voted out if she's voted out at the end of the episode because there's no more traitors. Because she voted out another traitor. Yeah, she voted out Danielle. She was the thing that happened. Bob the Dry Queen was voted out by Boston Rob. Boston Rob got got by Danielle.

Carolyn got got by Danielle. So all of these traders, like you guys probably would have been fine. Yeah, Dylan and other people were like on your case throughout. But you could always just deflect and go somewhere else. You guys probably would have won. At least one or two of you would have won easily. if you stayed together and they just never stayed together

and that's the reason that was their downfall. They would have won because it would have been a numbers game because of the trust that every faithful had in Danielle.

Danielle would have gotten to the end if she had the numbies of other traders falling around her. That was the misstep. They fucked themselves by killing each other

all the time. Because Danielle, like even when she got voted off, it was still like, like everyone's mind was fucking blown. after what we thought was pretty clear evidence. So the fact that even after she was booted,

multiple people were like, holy shit, I can't believe she's actually a traitor, other than I would say, I mean, Dylan was the only one that was like steadfast. Like I'm pretty fucking sure that it's you. And even he had his doubts right at the end.

So that comes down to numbers. If they had had four traders for an extended period of time, instead of whacking two of them within the first like four days, they probably would have won this whole thing. Because then they would have had to recruit one. They would have, instead of two traders left, you might have had three at the end. Like all of this comes down to what we were talking about all season and the quote unquote gameplay show watchers all kept giving a shit. You guys don't know how it fucking works.

It's like, well, the traitors lost and we were condemning the traders all season. The strategy was, I'm power hungry. I want to control the turret. That's all it was. That's all it ever was for anybody. Anytime that there was some sort of tiff or anything in the in the turret, it was always. always just because one person wanted to be in control. And if that other person's control was threatened by another trader, they voted them out.

That's all it was. It wasn't like there were, what, four or five instances of murders that actually seemed like they were somewhat on the same page. And I'm even throwing in the one with Brittany and Danielle from last week where at least they were like talking about things. But it was the most part, yeah, the strategy was I want to have the power in the turret. But who's the biggest person here? I'm going to vote out Boston Robb because I want the power.

And that was Danielle's whole thing, but it was also Boston Rob's whole thing. It was Bob the drag queen's whole thing. So that's just the problem is that you had a bunch of personalities in there where they all wanted to be the main trader. And it just didn't work. So maybe you can go in if you don't want to blame any of the traders, which, you know, maybe you're just a denier of what we just watched. And it was, you thought it was good strategy.

They were set up for failure. You can blame Alan, but I'm not going to blame Alan. I will never blame Alan for anything, ever. It's just a bunch of people that had tiffs in the turret, and then they threw a turf hit, and they all died. Yep, and they all died. Let's get into it. I like that breakdown.

And I agree. I just think that it was, it was just shoddy work. It was early on they shot themselves. They were playing, or they were battling uphill from, honestly, day one, because they couldn't get in the same page. But as you said, Brittany does vote Danielle. And I thought her reaction was not great. I'm like, ooh, you just called a lot of attention on yourself.

Danielle, did you no favors on the way out either, saying you did it to me again, clearly implying that this is a betrayal. And if I'm in that room, I'm going, well, the only way she could have betrayed her is if, and then obviously they find out she's a traitor because she's the last one to let them know. So if she was betrayed, that that to me immediately tells me that Britney must also be a traitor. So I'm glad that Dylan locked in on that. The rest of the room, I think they took notice, but they didn't like lock in on that one thing. They knew it happened until like, I think until Dylan actually brought it to their attention a little bit later. They weren't clocking at that point. They were just, and this is pretty much what happened every single time.

There's always one person that hears like a trader's last words on their way out. And they're like, hmm, that actually makes a lot of sense. Who was going after them? What were they talking about? Who were they directing that anger towards? Then you clock it. And everybody else is like, oh, my God, we got a traitor. Yeah, high fives.

No, look around the room. No, look around the room and see what everybody's reaction is. Look around the room. Who was she talking to on the way out? And obviously, Danielle, just completely picked them all apart. Like, Dylan, you know, I love you so much. You're such a good guy. Dolores, I'm really sorry, blah, blah, blah.

Really nice to everybody. Looks at Brittany. You did it to me again. You did it to you. to me again. I'm out of here. Like, okay, that's pretty clear. That seems pretty obvious to me. But in Britney's confessional, why she ended up voting for Danielle is not what she's making it seem here, where she was like, oh, I didn't think there'd be enough votes, whatever. Like, she clearly clocked at one point. She held onto that Dolores thing. Like, I saw Dolores's eyes light up

and look at Britney and I'm, or look at Danielle. And I'm like, why would you think that Dolores is going to change her vote? I don't think that's what it was. I don't think that's what I think it she makes it pretty clear it's like at that point everyone was way too suspicious of Danielle like there's no way she's going to make it because she says if we don't vote her out tonight she's gone tomorrow like she's not making to the end of this game my only chance is to whack her and hopefully I can spin some things around but that furthers my question I don't see it like if you go to like at least give it a chance because if you go to Iver and then they do a coin flip or whatever they end up doing for the tiebreaker if Danielle remains you guys are almost

all a lot and like yeah Brittany I do wonder if Danielle actually won the seer because she was pretty far ahead of Brittany and Dolores so I wonder if Danielle won it and it just went to second place they didn't explain it but they half the time they edit out like half of the explanations even for the mini games that they play we need we need us we need all of them I'm sorry we need all of them I don't care if you put it on Reddit and I can just read through it I just need something just give me something send a pamphlet a pamphlet would be nice yeah maybe next year since we did the whole season maybe NBC will take notice and they'll send us a care package and they'll have a pamphlet with all the rules in it.

We can spam them. We haven't done the email spamming thing yet. We've been talking about it. Just start at NBC.com. A.comings at ABC.com. A.comings at traitors.gov. Traders. But, yeah.

Traders. uk. Go slash forward slash. No. But Brittany. as you said, revealed as the seer. So she's talking to Alan. And she acknowledges, I think I put on too much of a show back there.

I think I drew too much attention to myself. So it is now her versus the rest. And her next steps are so crucial. But it was interesting to watch her kind of start to formulate, like in her head, she was getting a plan. She's like getting more confident, more confident, more confident. But we quickly cut to the group. And they're all absolutely blown away at the fact.

that Danielle was a traitor. Once again, furthering my point, if they had the numbers, they probably would have won by Danielle. Like, she would have gotten through, I think. But Brittany thinks that she knows who she needs to ask is the faithful. But as they're all chit-chatting, Dylan points out, if Brittany comes out and says that this person is a traitor, she is also a traitor. So he's clocking it immediately. He's dead set on Brittany. He's not moving this time. I think the funniest part is poor sweet Dylan Efron, who is easily top two fan favorite, if not number one, this season was besties with every fucking traitor. And like, if you would just voted for Dylan's friends the whole time, the faithful

would have won three weeks ago. But I like that he's finally like, okay, I think he's recognized like, clearly I am off. So I'm going to actually go with my gut. dealing this time with Brittany. So he's locked in on that. And Brittany selects Gabby, which I did think was probably the best move. But I don't know. I think it's the best move. So breaking it down from my end, I feel like it was the best move because there was

heat on Gabby going into that. I think she could have picked between Iver and Gabby, but I feel like she picked the more, dare I say, bubbly personality that's going to come out of that meeting and be like, oh my God, yeah, it was so much. It was so nice. It was great to like sit down with Brittany. She found out that I'm a faithful. So I feel like she's also faithful.

whereas Iver we've seen in the last couple of weeks. I don't know what happens. I think he realized he was playing a game, which is. He was delightful in this episode. He was fine. Yeah. But last week talking, he's talking to Brittany and Brittany's freaking out. He's like, it's a fucking game.

Like, everybody relaxed. Like, what's the issue? When he said that out, it clicked and it said, oh, fuck, it's a game. Yeah, it is a game. People are just putting on personas and they're just trying to best everybody else. It makes a lot of sense. And he says something later this episode referring to that same thing. It's a game.

Who cares? Let's just play it. So I feel like Iver, if you picked them, he'd like start thinking a little bit more about what it means to be picked, to be looked at. I think Gabby was the right choice because of the heat that was on her beforehand. People were talking about her. Let's find out. And then obviously the play is you tell everybody she's a faithful.

If you tell her that if you tell everybody that she's a traitor, both of you guys are out. There's no way about it. No, there isn't. And we get to breakfast. And Dolos reflecting a little bit. And she's like, you know, I'm sitting here. and I'm just kind of going over everything. I'm like, wow.

Amazing that she's still there. It's absolutely remarkable that she's still there. And look, this is the funniest part about the show is like, you can point fingers here. You can point fingers there and say, this person played a bad game. This is shitty gameplay. You're lucky, whatever. She's there. She made it to the final.

I clearly did not have a strategy throughout the season. I saw in the reunion, it was like she was wrong eight out of ten times with the vote and she's like that's just who i am so like i love that she is just forever and always she's like in her confessional she said i'm not used to dealing with liars and i'm like you're from jersey you're from ronjay what are we talking about you yeah what do you mean that's pretty much all you deal with actually i feel like everyone on that show line you should be able to sniff out a lie yeah what are you talking about yeah that was the funniest line of the seasons like i'm not used to dealing with liars it's like your friend is teresa fucking judice what are you talking about like

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All eyes are on Gabby and Brittany, and again, Dylan reiterates the whole, if she says, traitor, we got to get rid of them, both. And Brittany enters. I was curious what she was going to do, because in my head, I'm with you. The obvious play here is Chasey's a faithful, try to get through to the end, and just you've got to hope that you can mount enough of a strategy, one, not to get voted out, and two, just to make it and see what happens. but part of me was like she might try to throw her under the bus a little bit and like

I was curious if she was going to say she's a faithful at the table and then start going around behind her back like I didn't know which route she was going to take she takes the route of Gabby told me she's a faithful so so refreshing to know that guys like we're all faithfuls I the two reasons that I think that it could have been useful to call her a trader because you don't find out their identity if you vote them out at the roundtable. So if you tell everybody, hey, Gabby's a traitor and Gabby's like, what the fuck's going on? Like, I just told you I was a faithful. They're going to vote out Gabby because it's new information.

We've seen this group operate before. They get hold on to some new information. They are going to go after that person at the roundtable. And you wouldn't find out if she was a traitor or not. So you could potentially sneak through if there's still some doubt, then they might do like the final vote at the very end. that they might get Brittany out or whatever it may be. But I thought that was an interesting strategy.

The other part of this was when they were sitting down at dinner and Gabby told Brittany that she was a faithful, I thought that Brittany's response should have been, fuck. Like, I really was hoping that you were a traitor so that I could finally just get this out and you were the last trader and we could just move on and we can all win. I was really hoping that you were a traitor. Like disappointment instead of relief. Relief is like, oh, thank God. I knew you were a faithful.

It's like, you kind of came after me last night, so I don't really know about that. Like, it was just a little too wonky. And I don't know if this ended up, like, biting her in the ass later or not. But I just thought that that was a little weird. Yeah, I agree with that, actually. I didn't even think about that perspective. If she'd walked in there like, shit, guys, I thought I had it. I didn't.

I think that might have played a little bit better. It does enough to throw people off. So that's, it's good enough for now. Obviously, as they have time to ruminate on it, it changes because then Dylan has like this epiphany where he's like, wait a minute. it. Oh my God. They could both be traitors. Wamp. Yeah, bro. Thankfully, he didn't completely shift, though, because that would have been really funny if he shifted. And he's like, oh, shit, maybe they are both traders. Let's get Gabby out. And then you don't know. And then

you can slow Brittany there and they still fail. So, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree. But Alan enters in one of my favorite fits of the season, distinguished gentleman with a see-through. He had like the thing underneath. It looks very dapper. But he makes, he makes, makes an instinct joke, which I really wish the whole room had paid attention to, because they still don't totally get it. He's like, you guys, instincts thus far, like, whew, hear him, everybody. You guys keep trusting your gut and you guys keep fucking it up. So, like, maybe go against what you think is your instinct. But anyway.

I feel like he was looking at Dolores specifically. I hope so. Vote for somebody else. If you think it's someone, vote for the other person. That's my whole point. if you're if you're two for 10 right like at one point you got to be like maybe i'm not good at this i should just like go with the go with the room if the room's pointing so just don't be the one person to go tom it's like no one's talking about tom except for you because you guys have this

weird thing with each other but anyway gabby dillon and ivar start to sit around and speculate and ivar i will say has had the number of traders down pretty good the whole time yeah that i go back and think about it. He's like, I'm pretty sure there's another trader out here. And now he's skeptical on Dolo, but has been for a while now. And I'm getting frustrated watching. I'm like, why are we pointing at Dolores? What has Dolores done to cause suspicion? She's been a disaster at the roundtable. There's been no reason to look at her. So now I'm getting irritated. I'm like, if we go to the amount of votes that she's had where she's not voting for the person that actually gets voted off and it's a traitor, maybe that's enough to be skeptical. And this is part of what

we struggle as while we're watching this, we know who the traitors are. So when somebody brings up a name, even if it's like, yeah, I can kind of see that evidence pointing to that person, but we know she's a faithful. You kind of shrug it off. You're like, whatever. Like, roll your eyes a little bit. And then as it gets closer to the end of the game, you get frustrated. So I was frustrated too when he brought up Dolores.

I'm like, dude, get off of it. But we don't know what it's like in that castle. Maybe he's been thinking about Dolores for a while. And that's the reason. She's wrong every time. He's been clocking her votes. She's voting for somebody else. It makes a lot of sense.

But in reality, she just has a terrible gut feeling about things, and she will not let it go. Two things. Did you get like a really good night of sleep last night? Dude, I've had a very well-rested weekend. I can tell. Your demeanor. You're like, you know, who knows what they're going through? Last week you'd be like, these fucking morons.

You know, the funny thing is somebody, I was going through the YouTube comments, and I think it was the trainer. I asked if you needed a hug. Yeah, somebody's like, you should have you needed a hug. hug and I look I get those comments like twice a month probably depending on the episode and we do have a rigorous schedule so there are some times that we're a little tired and I get frustrated but I'm tired so I just loved the yeah there was one comment about me getting a hug another one about like oh I ruined the episode like I had to turn off the episode from traders last week because shooter was just so down and I'm like I wasn't that down I was just making fun of the big brother

people and you got offended it whatever but somebody commented underneath of that it's like no I actually love irritable shooter I think it's really funny he's basically like he's basically like Elliot Stabler from the best video of like that's fair. Yeah. I'll take that all day. Wait, that's a really fucking funny comparison. I actually like

I will take that all day. Just kind of cranky. Yeah. Look, Grumpy Goots is a staple here. It happens from time to time. And I always appreciate the comments, but I also know a lot of people enjoy it. So I just had to point that out as you're being very, very agreeable today. And I was like,

you must have gotten a, you got some rest, pal. but the funniest part is Iver is suspicious on Dolores and he goes he got to go on your instincts on this last round it's like Alan just said something about instincts alluding to the lack of instinct in this room yeah maybe don't let's not talk was there he would have gotten it top would be like oh yeah totally like basic instincts Sharon Stone yeah exactly and you get brittney and dillon and they sit down and they haven't spoken after daniel brittany's reaction not great. She's like, why? What's up? I'm like, settle down. Little suss. But as we've said before, Dylan's completely locked in on Britney. He's not getting swayed in any other direction. And banishing Britney is his plan. He doesn't tell Britney that. I don't believe. Does he tell her that? Yeah. He kind of does. Yeah. Sort of. He says that he's looking at her. Like, I'm pretty much on to you. I think he also said Gabby too. And that's pretty much what everybody's going to do when you're,

if you're calling out a traitor to their face and it's a one-on-one situation, you're always going to throw another name in there, even if you don't really believe it. It's like, hey, I'm kind of between you and this other person, even if you're not, just to try to take some heat off. But it doesn't really matter at this point because there's no more murders. It's just roundtable. So it's all about strategizing, getting people together and making sure you have the numbers. That's really all the matters right now. And I feel like Brittany did a good job. Obviously, Dylan didn't have to tell her that he was voting for her. But she did a good job of clocking it and immediately just pivoting. Like, all right, I can get the girls together because Dolores, I can probably sway,

even though she's thinking iver still i can probably get gabby on my side after that dinner last night as long as i've got those two and i can maybe swing one other person in here i can i could obviously get dylan out and that's probably my biggest threat and that's where she goes she tries to get gabby on her side with the dillon thing saying that you know dylan's been acting really weird gabby's at least not writing anybody off but right it's one of those it's similar to daniel's play at the end when she got voted out to go for dylan and be like dude you got to trust me it's Kind of her last play here is if she gets Dylan out is probably her last chance to win. If Dylan goes through, I mean, it appears to be one of the other at this point.

It's going to be Dylan or it's going to be Brittany. And that's also what cast out on Dylan later because of the round table when we get to it. But before we get there, we get to the mission, which is cars and gold. This one was a cool mission. I really like this one fairly easy, except for like the one, I don't know how far a kilometer is. and I'm going to totally out myself for being on the 70% of a mile I think 70% of a mile I think so they got to hoof it to get to the courtyard get the bags of gold and then drive back in these badass classic cars I thought they were going to let them drive them

which was I was like maybe not the best idea I thought so too yeah I would have been upset let me drive this net boy come on also the time limit the time limit kind of messed me up because I'm like oh they've like a 30 minutes to get out there and there's only five minutes left. It took them 25 minutes to drive out here. That's insane. They finally ran that kilometer. They get in there. They get the things like, wait, what happened to the time limit? It's just an easy

mission at the end, depending. I wonder if they would have made it harder if they had been better. And they were good at missions, but there was a couple in the first like two episodes that they messed up that they didn't get as much money as they should have. So I wonder if they just threw him a bone at this point. Like, hey, whatever. There's five of them left. Let's just get them through.

Who cares? What I heard I've read it somewhere is that they come up with ways to make sure the purse at the end is, you know, hefty. So like between that and then the double your money game that comes shortly after, it makes sense. Like, all right, let's juice this pot at the end to make sure it's enough money to really be like,

holy shit. And it was like $204,000 at the end. So it definitely did the job. But on the car ride there, Dylan is in Iver's ear about Gabby and Brittany. And Iver, Iver is movable, as we've seen throughout the show you can convince him otherwise so dylan expedites i think

i think he trusted dylan pretty much this whole game so yeah i agree that's easy for him yep 100 but at the mission obviously things go well would you dangle from a helicopter shooter thousand percent by myself too i wouldn't bring anybody with me either no i don't trust them to make it in the ring of fire it's not just that i feel like it would be way more uncomfortable swinging around another person too much weight there you're probably spinning more yeah i want to be solo. I want to be solo. But they end up raising a ton of cash to get, like I said, the pots of $204,000 now. And we get to the quote unquote post game. And you got Britney, Dolo, and Gabby. Once again, Brittany points to Dylan's reaction to Danielle. But what I thought was interesting is

everything that she's saying about Dylan rings true about herself as well. And I don't know if she recognized that. I don't know if the ladies in the car recognize that because she even goes, like, We've been blindsided every turn. We can't be, we can't be too careful with anybody. It's like, you haven't really been a suspicious person up until the Danielle stuff. Like,

you're only now coming into question. The other stuff as far as the reaction from Dylan, you had a similar reaction where he kind of blew up when Danielle left because you were the final vote to get her out. So I see what she's doing. And I still agree, the only place she really has is going after Dylan. I did think that she showed her cards a little bit in the scene.

I don't know if this added to it just because, again, you can draw so many parallels to Dylan and Brittany's reaction. It was so similar. Right. I think that a big part to play in all of that too. And it seemed innocuous, but I think Brittany kind of clocked it immediately. Dylan and Gabby being the ones to go up there. And as of two weeks ago, Dylan and Gabby really hadn't talked at all.

And that was actually part of Gabby's downfall when they were talking about at the roundtable last week. And she hasn't made any friends outside of the bandies. She doesn't trust anybody else. Nobody has her trust, so on and so forth. So this was a big moment because then all of a sudden Gabby's looking at Dylan in a different light. Wow, he was really helpful. It's sort of like the Sierra Boston Rob effect that we saw at the wedding thing. It's almost like, whoa, this guy's really helpful.

He's just trying to help me win the game. It's not like, it's like a sort of a last ditch effort. Like look at this, look at his reaction to raising money. It's like, yeah, they still want to win the money. That doesn't have to do with anything. Also, if you split it four ways, five ways, whatever it might be, you're only going to get like 40K each at this point. So wouldn't you as a trader kind of just stop carrying about the money once it gets to like 150, 150, 160 and it gets a little too suspect? Like, yeah, I can take all of this money home by myself.

I don't really have to worry about splitting it four ways. So why am I worried about putting my neck out a little bit further and saying, yeah, we need another 40K. Like, yeah, it's a little greedy. Greedy, dude. Yeah. Because you do. It's out there. You know what I mean?

But Iver and Dylan, Dylan lets Iver know. I'm 100% going to vote Brittany. And the only way that Gabby is a trader is if Britney is, it appears that Iver is on his side. All right, cool. We have a plan. They've been sticking it out together pretty much the whole time. Other than the traders, Iver has been Dylan's closest confidant. I would say throughout this whole thing, Gabby's starting to convince herself a little bit that it's Dylan.

And then Brittany shifts, and I think she feels everything going the way it is, and is hoping she can sway Iver because now she switches over to Dolo. So I will give her credit for trying to shift the plan as things start to evolve and change. It's just, I honestly think that her being the seer is what got her out of the game. If she had not won that, it just drew too much suspicion at the end. Yeah, I mean, if Dolo or Iver had won it, they probably would have picked each other. If Dylan had won it, he would have picked Brittany. That's the only thing. So that would have been pretty much the end of the game there.

this is why I think that Brittany played as well as she could have given the circumstances because I thought that the pivot was interesting instead of just putting all your eggs in one basket let's go after Dylan I think creating a little bit of chaos and playing off of people's tendencies makes a little bit more sense because you can just create a crazy whirlpool where you're convincing Dolores that it's Iver Iver already kind of thinks it's Dolores so you can set them up against each other if they go off on each other they're probably going to vote for each other at that point if you can just have Gabby thinking it's Dylan, two votes is going to win it because those two are going to waste their votes. So I thought that that was actually a really good play by Brittany

that we hadn't seen the traders do. And maybe it's just the benefit of being by yourself out there. Maybe Danielle would have done it. Maybe Boston Rob would have done it as well if they were just by themselves, create a little bit of chaos, get the bickering going and let people just vote themselves out. That's a good move. But I thought that Brittany played as well as she could have at this point. I agree. I agree. I think she was, like I said, fighting an uphill battle as soon as she was name the seer it's like yeah i mean the easiest play here is to vote the seer and whoever else is there out then just go with three and see what you got but i agree i think she did what she could and dylan let's gabby know i'm 100% going for brittney and dolow gives like a

fucking like good fellow's speech where it's like don't you fucking blindside me don't don't you fucking do it all right if you're going to vote for me you fucking tell me that would scare me too yeah dude dolos from petrified don't don't fuck with dolow and so she says like if you're going to vote for me. You tell me. And if not, because I'm not a fucking traitor. Yeah. I love, did you see, uh, did you see Pauly this week on Instagram, gassing her up? No. Oh, you don't follow Polly? Dude. Oh, it's so fucking fun. He just he just posts pictures of Dolores constantly. Like he was posting her in a reunion dress. He's taking like screenshots from traders putting it up there. Like he's just a proud boyfriend.

Are they engaged? Proud fiance. I don't know. He's got so he's got some, uh, some gaps to make up from his performance last season anyway. So it's good. You've got a baseball bat, yeah. Oh. Wasn't there something with a baseball bat that we're talking about? From his time in Ireland, allegedly, I don't want to talk about it too much. You guys can do some research. I don't want to get a knock on my door.

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We're at the round table. And Gabby starts out and she says, you know, again, I'm a faithful. Thanks, Brittany. And Iver brings up Dolo again. I'm like, please don't do this to us.

It's the last episode. Let's just do some smart votes here. All right, let's all go for somebody. We're too far in. Don't waste a vote here. We've done it too many fucking times. and I liked Ivers defense, but in my mind, I didn't know if there's a whole lot to do here as far as defending goes other than Dylan and Brittany. I appreciate what I ever says.

He's like, you know, I've been in the public eye forever and like I don't, I like to avoid the drama. Everybody that uses that tactic, Danielle used it as well. We probably saw five, six, seven people use this. I couldn't be a traitor. It's like, well, the whole point of the show is traitors. So like anybody here could technically be a traitor. Every time people like, I don't have it in me. They all kind of change their tactics whenever they got, even if they were faithful.

If they were pegged as a traitor at the roundtable, they all started just doing defense instead of turning it into offense because that got so many people out in the first couple of weeks. Even if you were a faithful and you were accused, you would just turn it right back on whoever accused you of being a traitor. And it always, always resulted in you getting voted out. Trader or not, you still got voted out. And we saw Tony do it in like the second or third episode, whenever it was. as soon as you point the finger right back and whoever's pointing it at you, you're out. And that's all you do.

Everybody's just like, hey, look, I'm a really nice person. I could never be a traitor. It would wreck me. All right, cool. Let's just move on. See you. Yeah. And I think, you know, looking back at it now,

Brittany definitely got hosed by the rest of the traders and the way that they played this game at the round table specifically because that's what Dylan's defenses. He's like, this is familiar. The Danielle versus you thing was very familiar. We watched Boston Rob and Bob the drag queen do it. We watched Carolyn and Danielle do it. They had the same exact blueprint for each time they went after a traitor.

So that didn't do her any favors either because he's pointing you were so convicted on all of the, your convictions were so strong for Danielle, uh, or when, sorry, her convictions were strong for every other person in there. And then the fact that her and Danielle had their thing and then Danielle said, you betrayed me or you did it again. it all was way too suspicious and it was all way too familiar so that was his best argument that was one of the better arguments we've seen i do think that brittany did a decent job standing up for herself by trying to throw up back at him and you know when he's challenging her like poor sweet

dylan was just he wasn't ready for that even said it's like how are you not ready he's like i brought a knife to a gunfight it's like yeah bro it's the fucking finals what did you expect it was crazy to me but like yeah the fact that he stuck to it and the fact that you know when he challenged her where he's like, oh, like, you're getting a little too activated. And she's like, because this is it. And if you fucking vote me out, I'm done. So of course I'm getting activated.

It's like, all right, good. It was a good defense, good rebuttal, but I just think the odds were stacked too far against her. I don't think that she had the chips in this one. And she gets the vote. Yeah, it's a clean sweep. She didn't convince anybody otherwise. And I think the people that were on the fringe at that point were going with just the room,

finally. Yeah. We finally had like no random fucking votes where it's like, three for Brittany and one for Dolores or one for Ivor it's like all right we're on the same page at the very least so that was good but now it's the aftermath this is what it all comes down to baby because if there's a traitor amidst this group they don't get the money they being the faithfuls so they have to figure out are we all faithful are we all not and because of Britney's defense there is a shadow of doubt casted on Dillard

And also because of earlier, Brittany's saying we've been blindsided at every turn that also points to Dylan. It does kind of point to Iver too, but much more Dylan because of the roundtable. So as they're all going through this whole thing, Alan sits down with Dylan and he's worried that they're going to think he's a traitor. Dolo doesn't trust Dylan. And his end game is just to try to win this with everybody. He's like, that's my only play. Throw the green bag in there, cross my fingers and see what happens. and we get to the fire

and I was so fucking nervous about the fire because if anybody threw orange in there it would have just gone right back in Dylan like he was the only one it's red pal

fucking hell pretty said orange I'm not gonna lie even the green I couldn't tell I couldn't I couldn't I had to base it on their reactions if they were excited

it was green that's way more exciting to watch it that way like what happened wait I fucking love that you're watching like shit yeah god why these colors blue I think I've talked about it before on the podcast too all of my color knowledge is based on context so I compare it to other things but if I have no context and it's either between two colors that I can't identify I am fucked because there's nothing to go off green or orange orange is close to red and fire red it didn't work it just doesn't matter that being said if I knew I was a faithful there's four of us

hot to 204 I'm throwing red unless I'm dealing I know you are definitely not throwing red if I'm if I'm dealing I'm definitely not throwing red but if I'm Dolores if I'm Gabby if I'm I ever toss a little red there let's mix it up let's get one more person out maybe do it again let's see what happens so here's the difference and i i don't i wouldn't fault you for doing it because again as i ever said this is a game i would never tell i would i would tell close friends only that i did it because i was greedy but i would tell everybody like i wasn't sure that we got all the traders out what do you want me to do yeah i know there's some doubt yeah i know but i would know i'm just i you're greedy fuck you

dude I text I text you on the ride back flight back yeah I know I know guess what I did suck it yeah or if I was in the game

you'd be like suck it nerd you'd probably give me like a thousand dollars just to fuck with me like you're yeah yeah I know I know you

but I mean the reason that that did not happen is because of the four that you had remaining right this four which is my favorite part

about how it ended you had four of arguably the most docile people on this show other than probably Gabby had it in her to be a little bit more I don't know I don't want to say conniving I just feel like she was

much more protective of herself during this game than the other three were the other three were more trusting of people so I was worried though I wasn't worried about her I'm like I think Gabby's in I think that she's ready to end this game she wants to split with everybody because she likes everybody there she's a nice person that was kind of the vibe of everybody

in that crew is they're all good peeps they've all been nice throughout this whole game yeah let's end this together high five we all get our share yeah yeah there's only one fucking person i was like god damn it don't you do it don't do it dolores don't fuck this game i thought she was going to do it everybody that i know they i know they i know that they try to trip us up based off of like editing and facial expressions and this and that whatever i thought that they were doing it to us with brittany last week when she made that face at dolores i'm like oh god she's still going to vote for daniel it's just to keep us going they did it with dolores and

I really genuinely thought that Dolores was going to throw red in. I just thought she was because she's been wrong the whole season. So why not be wrong one more time? And it would be so funny if she was super wrong. And everyone's like, what the fuck? Now we devote somebody out. Dylan goes home. She makes more money, but she feels awful.

Because she actually would feel genuinely awful. She said that. She's like, if I was the reason that one person was a faithful, I think that's what made her go green. I think she really wanted to go red. That's what she said. But I feel like she said, she weighed the options. And she's like, do I really want to come home from Scotland feeling terrible that I voted somebody out that didn't deserve it? No, I guess not.

But I really think she wanted to go red. Yeah, she literally says, I started this game as a faithful. I want to end this game as a faithful. So I voted green or whatever color you saw, Indigo. Yep. But they get to reveal at the end of white. Green is white to you? Dude, I just leave me alone.

It shows. What is it mean? is the word yeah it's shown lighter so it looked white to me compared to the other one at least next year you know now orange and white instead of not going to work green okay well I'll just we'll watch it together

and I'll tell you okay just watch it we'll watch it at the same time just text me or isn't there can't you get surgery for that now maybe we'll get sponsored by the company I know there's glasses yeah there's some like glasses that you can wear but I'm scared of those I feel like we

need to reach out to them Yeah, I feel like I'd never be able to go back. Like, I'd be scared. Hey, guys, my buddy couldn't finish traders. He doesn't know who's out. So we need your, we need a sponsorship, if you'd be so kind for the business. That'd be worth it. But they do get to find out that they were correct and getting rid of Brittany.

She was, in fact, a traitor. And the one really big question I have, like more so than anything. Everything else has been cleared up for me. Everything else makes sense. I'm glad with the way the game ended. Those fireworks are fake, right? uh no that should look fake as hell you think it looked fake i don't know i guess yeah comparatively speaking when you look at the fireworks but then like they looked back at the footage

they're like oh those kind of suck we need to put like some some cgai fireworks up here guys clap louder all all movies and tv shows going forward do need to have a disclaimer whether or not a i or cg i was used i would appreciate it because it does when we we watch too many of these shows and break them down too much. So we get hyper fixated on things like that where it's like real or fake. Now that you're saying it, yeah, they did look too good to be true. There was way too many, the way that they sprawled out. There probably were fireworks, but maybe they just kind of like.

That's what I said. Yeah, there was. And then they're like, yeah, that didn't hit. Let's do a screensaver behind the castle of fireworks. That's the vibe I got. But all in all, all, dude, without this finale going exactly the way that it, went this season would have been mediocre at best this finale did a massive job in propping this season up and making it much better even daniel like i said i will give her credit

because of her sign off and the way that she handled it and by saying it cleared it up for me when she goes i told my family by any means necessary i'm going to do whatever the fuck i have to do to win this game i'm like okay from a gameplay standpoint fine fucking burn it all to the ground sure i respect that so yeah i loved it i can't wait for next season i'm super duper excited uh i'm bummed we have to wait a year but uh yeah i know my first dive into traders was sick that was awesome yeah it was fun it was fun i don't think it's a full year oh it is pretty much a full year yeah nine months 10 months yeah it's not a shame but let's get some questions sure uh let's get this out of the way because I know there's two questions in here.

Actually, three questions. About the reunion. So Rishievous and Max June both asked about the reunion. The reunion, I don't think, deserved a full recap episode because it was, for lack of a bravo reunion, because bravo reunions are coming back. Yeah, it was kind of boring. And it's a lot of people like, Bravo reunions that were used to, everybody sitting down, they all know they have a job.

the rest of these reunions where it's like ensemble cast and stuff everybody's kind of fighting for their next opportunity so that's pretty much what the reunion was you had eye on trying to show off and dubai's pretty much canceled you had derinda trying to speak up she was going at bob the drag queen that was kind of annoying she's also on pause and maybe there's some like fucking bluestone manner show coming out no she's got a bluestone show coming out yeah i know whatever so she was trying too hard bob the drag queen i feel like was just like playing defense because of who he is he's just like a boyish guy who's just talking all the time and everybody's like oh yeah bob you were doing too much it was just kind of annoying honestly the reason was being himself and getting getting attacked for it yeah getting hate for it and then daniel did address that she did swear on her grandkids and her response was good she's like yeah i was a traitor what do you want me to do i don't care all of that goes out the window fine good other than that there really wasn't enough and i know uh people had an issue with andy hosting it he does show favor to the bravo people of course he does he was mad that all the housewives got voted off first of course he was yeah maybe you can get a different

host in there i don't really have an issue with that i just thought it was boring last reunion was a lot better um and then i think rachievus asked if it should be multiple parts do this one definitely shouldn't have been nope nope um from ashley t seven did you think dolow was going to make another bad voting decision in the end yeah yep absolutely she was going to throw orange I was pretty convinced. And last one here from Kara Miriam Woods. Tom for sure watched the season back after this, right? I wish I could see that reaction.

Yeah. He probably has it running on loop. It's still on right now. He was watching. What was he on? He was Special Forces was on for three months on repeat. And then VPR was on for three months on repeat. And now Traders is on for three months on repeat until he gets his next job, whatever that may be.

I'm still pushing for Sandoval's dad moves in with him and Schwartz and we get the sad singles house. He's still living at the same house that him and Oriana had, so. I already squatting, like he won't fucking leave. Yeah, that sounds very accurate.

Oh, boy. Well, yeah, great, great season. Yeah, we had a lot of fun covering it. Definitely. But until next time, for the last time, you traitors, we'll see you next year. Well, I mean, unless you listen to our other stuff, then we'll see you like tomorrow.

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