Bros & Shows - The Valley is Getting Heated (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

What is up Bros?! We are back with The Valley and who knew this would become one of our favorite shows right now. The drama is real, the characters are doing the most and it is all working for us. In this episode, Michelle and Jesse's marriage takes center stage. Obviously Jesse is a serious problem, but we learn that Michelle has also been hanging out with a famous Hollywood director for up to 9 hours a day at the Chateau Marmont. Luke "lets it slip" (Kristen told him) that he has information that could blow the whole thing up, alluding to potential cheating allegations... Jax and Brittany are showing more and more why they are currently not living together as we see how Jax treats her and the double standards set up in this relationship. She opens up to the group about their sex life, how Jax gets on her about drinking but goes out more than her amongst other things. Both Michelle and Nia relate to her as they are experiencing some similar things but Nia for different reasons. She opens up to Daniel and the audience about her high functioning depression brought on by postpartum. We always appreciate the real moments and we also love that Daniel is a supportive and understanding husband on these topics and has his wife's back (that's rare in reality tv especially on this show specifically). This show continues to deliver and we are looking forward to the rest of the season! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up, dude? Nice, nice. Love that. Yeah. Yeah, I thought that one was pretty good. I've been holding on to that. Yeah, very topical for the Valley, which is probably, no, actually, I take that back. But it is probably the best one that we are covering right now.

Yeah, see? Martha's Vineyard's Fun. Yeah, it's better than Summer House. Wow. That's big coming from there. Summer House is your baby. I know. Summer House is, we're going through it a little bit here.

It has hit a little bit of a lull, but that happens on these shows. Like, you get that mid-season lull, the late-season lull. The important thing is how they recover from the lull. We've seen a lot of good recoveries over the past. Like, we've had a lot of solid starts, lulls, and then solid recoveries. Yeah. So I'm hopeful that they can bounce back. I do wonder, though, does anybody know how many episodes there's going to be in the Valley?

because it's a new show. 10. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think it's going to be pretty low. I don't think they're going to go too deep into that. No, obviously Summer House goes like 15-ish and then plus the reunion, which will end up being like, they might do a three-part reunion for the Summer House just because of Lindsay Carl stuff.

But, yeah, I mean, I hope that they don't overdo with the Valley. I hope we never hit a lull because I don't want to see this cast in a lull right now. They're humming. I don't think they will lull because for better or worse, they have like serious shit going on very serious shit that's what's making this show good is there are definitely moments where i'm like all right like christin's doing a lot she's admittedly said you know i had to bring the mess to make the show successful as she's going to do but like the one-on-ones we're getting amongst couples and stuff that's real like that shit's yeah yeah i mean

the christin aside christin is a professional messmaker if you will and she's she's doing a good job i don't think that it's overproduced either i was i was afraid that it was going to be really Jackson-Christin-heavy where they're just overproducing constantly. Instead, there's a lot of shit happening and we're thinking maybe they're involved in it behind the scenes, but we don't really know because it's not playing out on camera.

And there's even some moments where you can see like Jacks and Kristen kind of showing a little bit of restraint when things pop up instead of just blurting things out. So look, I mean, it's really surpassed all of my expectations. Oh, it's blown my expectations out of the water. I think it's not even close, but... Yeah, I would...

Oh, man. How do we get here? I don't know, ma'am. That's crazy. I just not ask those questions. That's a good point. Enjoy where we are, you know? Yeah, good point, good point.

But let's dive right into this bad boy. Before we get there, we are getting close to our May 3rd show in D.C. is at Union Stage. We have Candace Dillard coming out, Chris Bassett coming out, Ryan Bailey coming out. So go get your tickets. Come hang out with us. It's going to be a blast. We're really looking forward to it.

It's about time we got back up there, dude. Sure is. I'm Jonesing. Jonesing for the stage. Love a little Jones. Yeah. But let's not dilly dally. Let's jump into the valley.

Shall we? We shall. That rhymed. You're not even... I'm sorry. Sixers are playing in the playoffs right now. I'm just making sure that we know what's going on in the score. Sixers are up six in the third.

Okay. I like that. I would like a little bit more of a cushion, but it's okay. How's Jojo doing? I didn't check the rest of it. I just wanted to look at the score. all right we'll get to that later yeah as we said if you listen to our last episode there is a play in game going on right now whether or not the uh sixers will make the playoffs so uh look our

attention is fully focused here we got a quick score recap and now we're locked in don't you worry but let's dive into the valley oh and i forget the rhyme now shall we no that was the end of it yeah there was a beginning of it before the valley oh i don't know man let's oh let's not dilly dally let's get to the valley shall we so let's jump in we got kind of a jumbled start. It was hard to take notes on it. But the premise of the first scene, Brittany and Jacks are talking,

everyone's cool now. Like we've had a lot of shit pop off. It seems like they've reached a point in the group after Kristen brought up the comments made allegedly by Michelle and that whole thing. They've at least reached a place where they can like attempt to move forward or at the very least be amicable with one another.

But that sets the stage for the rest of the episode. And we get a quick, cut to Jesse and Michelle, and they're packing, or Jesse's, or sorry, Michelle is packing for this girl's night out in Malibu, and she's like, oh, Adidas and shows Jesse, and Jesse's like, oh, that's great, babe, doesn't even look up from his shirt. It kind of just paints, like, their relationship as a whole in that one moment. We get Luke and Kristen talking about sex, as they always do. Sex and weed.

Sex and weed. And making babies. Uh-huh. One of those three things. They're going to discuss it, and so we get more sex talk from them. We get that clip of them, like, walking in. We didn't make it to the bedroom. and there's like a massage table in the lift got seven dogs in this house it's cool like you guys

have a healthy sex life it's great i don't want to talk about it every week maybe i'm getting old i don't know but i think we're going to but i feel like a lot of people would share that sentiment but we find out that the crew is splitting up we're getting a ladies night and we're getting a dude's pool day and brittney's her temperament like she's trying and she i i feel like she's trying i have my opinions on brittany this season and they know they're not always good but when it comes to their relationship in general like she's trying to have a positive disposition with the whole thing and everything she's saying is met with just like grumpy negative jacks washing dishes and she's like oh i'm you excited to hang out alone he's like yeah you should go

out and have fun this and that she's like but then you get mad at me and you get like a clip of her hungover and i imagine as she says that jacks goes out way more than she does and probably is a mess the next day. She's hung over and he's like, you need to fucking stop drinking and like, blah, like getting on her. You want to have another kid. You're not even going to be around for this kid. Like, yeah, shit like

that, dude. Shut up. And I know what Jacks is doing too. Jacks is deliberately not going out when he knows that they're filming. Oh, absolutely. He's trying to paint this picture of himself that he doesn't do anything. Super dad. He even started it during the VPR episode when we got that crossover. And he goes, you know, part of me just wants to go in there and just

rip a bunch of shots of shorts and stay alto four. but I don't do that anymore and we're like fuck you yeah you do no reverse that he says I can't stay up past 1030 anymore it's not my thing and then flash to him in the car saying man I don't want to leave us and go in there rip shots till 4 a. yep so we know you you haven't changed sir no one thinks you have pulling anybody no and now obviously they're not together or they're living separately and Brittany's going on podcast now and talking about their relationship and how not fun it was for her so that's the only part of the show that, like, I'm not loving is just because he's full of shit. He's very clearly full of shit. See, I'm not even, I mean, now I'm reading into it because we're talking about it, but when I'm watching it, I'm not thinking any of that.

No. Just watching. I'm having a good time. It's a good place to be, but we jump to Janet and Brittany, and they're headed to the Girls Day in Malibu. Yep. And they're driving down and... Is Nia's friends rental in Malibu?

Yes. And the only reason I wrote this. scene down was she's a Zillow sleuth. I know people like this. Are you one of these people? No. All right, good. I'm not either, but I do know people that will be like...

Not because I don't care. It's just because I don't care. Yeah, I don't need to know, like, what your house costs or anything like that, but I do know people like, ooh, I got checked on Zillow. I'm like, that's kind of an invasion of privacy. I know a lot of people that do that, but I mean, I also get it if you're driving through a neighborhood and you see one. You're like, well, that's a really nice house.

I do that. I do that. That's completely fine because you don't know those people. When you do it to your friends and you go over, you're like, well, I wonder what they did. Especially when you're like, I know what you're paying taxes every year. Like, it's like, all right. That's too far. You can look at the house.

You can look at the before and after pictures and be like, wow, it's really beautiful in here. What did it look like when you bought it? Yeah, like that kind of stuff. Yeah, that works. But they get to the house and it's Nia's friend's rental house in Malibu, and all the girls start showing up. It's a sick house. But the whole goal of this night is a bonding night. We're going to get back on track everybody.

everything's going to be fine but obviously the elephant in the room is that Janet and Brittany both are worried about Kristen and Michelle like are they going to be able to mend this fence and at least move forward in a little bit of a way they do keep it amicable the whole time I guess that's the word

of the day is amicable but they do keep it friendly the whole time but this is when we get the scene of Brittany young over and she highlights like if he does it it's fine like he can be a mess the next day I take care of the kids and like he's a disaster, but if I do it, that's a problem.

And Janet points out, I'm a little concerned that every time Brittany's drinking right now, she's getting hammered. Yeah. She also points out, but she is married to Jacks. I think that it's one of those where, you know, and obviously I can't speak on to what her drinking habits are, but to me it seems like when she is finally able to go out, she has all this pent-up shit and she's just fucking balls to the wall. Yeah, she's trying to merge like three missed weekends.

into one night. Three makes weekends, multiple frustrations in her marriage. Like, Jack's treating her like, shit. I can't imagine the stress that puts on you. And then when she finally gets out, she's like, who we're fucking going. Yeah. Like, once that first sip hits, it's like, boop, game on.

But this should show you immediately where Michelle and Kristen actually are because Kristen's checking in with everybody when she gets there. She's like, yeah, you know, I took the test. I'm not pregnant yet. We are trying. Michelle's confessional was sneaky one. of the meaner things i think i've heard and it was said no like so nonchalantly she's like please don't have a kid we don't need more of you around yeah it's like whoa the huge turning episode for michel

where we were talking about all right you know maybe christin's going a little too far when it comes to michel maybe there's some sneakiness going on in the background janet's talking shit on her and she doesn't want a cop to it whatever might be going on michel might not deserve this watching her this entire episode like uh she kind of sucks there's there's definitely I don't know if I have that same sentiment. I think she's nasty, yeah. I think that she has a different side to her. I don't think she sucks.

I saw this differently. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah, I saw it a little bit differently than you did. But we'll get there. But we get to the paint goals and what your intentions are. Michelle's is to love myself, my family, people around me. She's clearly going through it.

And that's why I can't say that she sucks because I think that her demeanor is a product. of her environment right now, and their marriage is such a shit show. I just don't think we know, like, yeah, we were very quick to jump on Jesse because his behavior that he was portraying in the first couple episodes was awful. Right.

So very clearly, he's not a good dude. He's a piece of shit. We didn't see anything for Michelle because we were just like, oh, she's downtrodden because Jesse's a piece of shit and he's treating his wife terribly, but we don't really know what Michelle's actually like. And I don't think that, like,

her comment about Kristen not having kids, was taken out of context. I think that's directly in context with how she feels and how she looks at other people. Well, I think that that was... I don't think that's, like, because she has a bad marriage.

I think that that's because Kristen called her a racist. Kristen just repeated what somebody else said. Yeah, but she's the one that brought it to national television and brought her up. I think that that's a warranted reaction. It's kind of fucked up,

but I don't think it's fair to paint her as, like, a villain. I don't know. I think she's very unhappy in her marriage because Jesse is a piece of shit. I think that he bounced after COVID because he was back in three wheel. I'm not saying that Jesse's not a piece of shit.

I'm just saying I am going to hold out on judging. And hold judgment. I don't think it's fair to say that. I said I'm starting to think that she's, she was pretty nasty this episode, so I can say that. But I'm starting to think that maybe she's not a good person. I don't know.

I don't know. I think it's a product of her environment because I think Jesse really sucks. But regardless, Kristen's thing is peace. I don't know what she said. I don't give a fuck. but Kristen said her intention is peace and, you know, we can all be more empathetic and I try to lead with empathy and I am an empath in nature and it's like, roll the tape. Yeah, you're not.

You never have been. You never have been. We have like 10 years of footage of you. Literally. Not being an empath. No. This is not like an Erica Jane learning what empathy type of thing is. This is you saying that you have empathy and you do not.

No, none. And that's okay. Is it? no i mean in this space in reality tv not as like a human no you should have some but i think it's more like all i could think about was erika jane having to just said that i'm so brain dead that like i thought about that earlier and i was like i need to bring that up because this happened before and you just said it as i was reading a note so i apologize but yeah that's literally that's exactly what i got she needed to be in that therapy session with erika so she would under

understand what empathy is, but even the group's like, all right, dude, like, come on now. They're all laughing at it. And we get to Nia. And I thought this was a very emotional episode for her and a very touching episode in her sharing her battle with postpartum. She's like, you know, I'm not, not okay. But I put it on her face and this postpartum has been hitting me really hard. She's like, I didn't have the baby blues with my first kid with the twins. However, We're like, I can't seem to bounce back and I'm trying really hard. I'm trying to verbalize it.

It's hard to verbalize it. I thought the producer's question was fucked. Dude, yeah, what the fuck was that? It was so weird. Oh, so all the feelings that you should be having, you're actually having the adverse feelings. So instead of being, like, loving and happy, you're miserable and sad?

Is that what postpartum is? It's like, hey, guy, fuck off. Yeah, what the hell was that? And then when she says, can I have money, what's that? What's that? Back off. Yeah.

Like, she's opening up about postpartum, and you're, like, a dude trying to be like, so that means you're just fucking miserable? A producer just mansplained what it was to her. It was such, I was... And then asked her to open up a little bit more on that. Like, no. She didn't leave it. Yeah.

What a weird moment to put in there. But she does say that the group really helps, and the group commends her. It's like, look, you're out and about, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing to try to get through it. Like, you're doing your best, and that's okay. Like, it's okay to not be okay. And she's working on it. But I appreciate her sharing her journey with it.

But this is when we flash over to Boys Day. Daniel's out. The AC's out. And that's all I could think about was woof. Yeah. You got the baby. You got three babies. You got three babies.

Three under two. In an 89 degree house in L.A. That sounds tough. That cannot be a good time. No. So he's out. But we check in with Jesse and he's like, therapy's a disaster.

It's an absolute disaster. And he has to point out like, Oh, and this is the stuff I'm talking about where I'm like, ah, that's shitty. Like, I don't care where you stand with your wife, but he's like, he points to Isabella and he's like, when she's with me, this is what she's like, chill mellow.

When she's with Michelle, she's a fucking kamikaze. It's like, you don't have to say that. No. You don't have to take digs at your wife when she's not. She's not even there, and you're doing it on fucking national TV. Not only that, but like, we don't stand behind dudes that talk shit on their wives when it's just a dude's day.

Yeah, no. Like, what is that? It's a weird move. It's a really weird move. But then we flash back. We get the check-in with Michelle, and she's very honest. She's like, I'm more unhappy than happy over the past three years. And that's what we found out.

Like during COVID, by necessity, Jesse was home. So he was hands-on. He was involved with a kid. And this is why I'm not painting her as nasty because I would imagine that this would cause all sorts of problems in the relationship because COVID, present, attentive father, husband, all of those things. As soon as the bars open up and freedom once again in L.A. You can go out and about.

He's gone and leaves her left to try to deal with the kid and try to parent the kid. And he's MIA. And when we see his behavior now, it's like, yeah, he's popping champagne at noon. And he just seems not checked into it. So while he seems to be the one that's like, I want to give the cigar, I really want to make this work at the same time. It's like, yeah, but your past actions, it may be too late to fix it now. Just because, like, you want it, you should have. shown that before so that's where

I'm not saying that she's blameless I don't know and we're going to find out more about everything I'm sure as the season commences but I just I see more coming from him than her but he does say like I'm trying to do this I'm trying to get through it and we find out that Michelle had

applied for an apartment and was going to leave and then there was a conversation about giving him a second chance so now he's giving her space they're trying to figure this whole thing out we find out now that they have not figured it out, they're getting divorced. Yeah.

Because in this scene right now, she's like, I'm thinking about leaving again, and the fighting's unhealthy for Isabella. He's an amazing father, but us together, I don't know. Yeah. And I think the writing was on the wall,

especially when you see that scene with them at the end where, like, he's like, you want to hug it out? She's like, like, she doesn't even, like, touching him. Yeah. Like, he was, like, head buried in the shoulder, like sentimental moment,

and she was staring out the window. And I made sure I looked at that and, like, saw where her hand placement was. But going back to the boys, this is you've kept this from me i've kept this from you we've discussed this beforehand i asked you i did you find out the director and you smirked and you said i need your real reaction so you wouldn't tell me yeah it was so let's play the scene a little bit here okay so as jesse says to all the boys she's michelle has gotten into this routine now where all the sudden she's going down to the

chateau and you know me i live i love the chateau i live really close to the chateau if we have to you're the fucking chateau one more time. I'm going to lose my mind. But Jesse goes on to say a little bit more, and he says, yeah, she's down there like every night, and someone else chimes in, I believe it was Jason first or Jacks, and they had to blur the name out. They had to say, oh, is she still hanging out with that director? Beed-beep.

Might be someone, who knows. They even blurred the mouth. They blurred the mouth. They did everything that they possibly could. Bravo sleuths are out there, of course. turns out in that moment while Jesse keeps going through all of that and I do want to talk about

something else about this scene that I noticed there is a very famous director it's down to two people you know both do you have any guesses of who it might be give me an age range

are we talking old middle age or newer middle age it's not like Steven Spielberg it's not Spielberg no no give me another good guess though give you one more

no hints though middle aged You've seen probably all of both of their movies. Lean towards action. Michael Bay? Michael Bay is one of them. Michael Bay is one of them. So Michael Bay is one of them,

and the other one is even funnier. Who could be even funnier than Michael Bay? Oh, fuck. It's not like anyone who's, well, he was up for an award actually played last year. Quentin Tarantino. No. That's the number one answer.

Well, action wouldn't have got me there. Oh, he does some action. Well, action was for Michael Bay. Yeah. You might get that from Michael. No, no, no. I should have said Lincoln Park for Michael Bay. But anyway.

Tarentino? Witten Tarantino is the number one answer because people found out that he likes to frequent the chateau. And when he's in L.A., that's where he likes to go. So it makes sense that he would be there as much as possible. We need cameras on that. We need cameras on that. Obviously, he would never sign off on that, but we need cameras on that. Because he's a weird guy.

Uh-huh. Very weird guy. So, yeah, as they continue the scene and they're talking, obviously we get into Luke and his confessional, which I want to talk to you about, because that's weird. Do you think that Kristen put him up to that answer? Yeah. Or, yeah, I think so, too. I think a thousand percent. He went into that confessional, and Kristen's like, all right, you're going to just drop this weird line in there and say, it's just really weird because I know something that could blow everything up.

It seems unlike Luke to do that based off of how we've seen him so far. Yeah, I agree with that. I do think it was a plant. I think it was a Kristen plant. But he's more volatile that I thought he would be. Like, he's quick to jump into certain scenes, which I appreciate because, like, that was my biggest concern with him on TV. I was like, can he hold his own, especially with this crew? He can.

But, yeah, this moment, it didn't seem natural coming out. No. Like, forced. Not only that, but also when he's sitting in the pool next to Jesse, as soon as he even opens his mouth and says, do you think that there's something like, is there a wave for you? you guys to get back. You could see Jesse look over and like snap his neck and like stare at him for a second. And then he answers. I don't think he likes him. He definitely doesn't like him at all. Yeah. I don't think a lot of the dudes like it. I think Luke is finding his way into this group and he's just kind of like merging into the back, you know, being nice to the nicer guys. He can be

friends with Danny. He can be friends with Jason. But he's never going to be close to Jackson. He's never going to be close to Jesse. That's okay, by the way. Which is fine. I would prefer that. Yeah, you don't have to. Luke. Yeah, don't get close to the other two. But you could see that, and not only that, you could see Jacks make a face. Jack's a thousand percent knows. Yeah, he knows. Whatever this bombshell is, whether it's Michelle cheated on them already and everybody knows about it, or there's more going on and she's already looking at, or maybe

locked up an apartment, she's going to move out. Whatever the bombshell ends up being, Jacks and Luke both know. The bombshell is that she's texting other guys. Yeah. Because we get that clip. We've gotten that clip already. I think there's more to that. I don't think they would leak that out, but...

Yeah, you're probably right. I think there's another step to it, yeah. I don't know, but like the whole scenario of her and either Michael Bay or Tarantino is weird. Like you're hanging out with them for nine hours at the chateau. And I get it from like the real estate aspect being like, oh, this could be a really good client for me. I think that's an easy fallback to say that. Like, I get it, but at the same time. It could also just be what Jesse's telling himself so that he doesn't get all riled up.

That's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point because Jacks also says like this is what he does. Like, he gets uncomfortable a situation. He starts to make a bunch of jokes about it. And, like, that is what I got from it because I don't think he's cool with it. That's what I do like that Luke, like, points out very obvious things. Sometimes, like, well, you know, I think that if, you know, my girl was drinking with a guy for, like, eight or nine hours, like, I'd have a problem with it.

It's like, yeah. Thanks, Luke. Thanks, Luke. Appreciate that. We got that. Yeah. From what was happening. But thank you for being so obvious with it.

But he seems somewhat not. bothered and that's when like the bombshell thing happens and Luke clumsily it was almost like a ken moment where he's like is there you know what if that did happen like could you guys get back from it and he's like absolutely not non-negotiable and looks like I really can't say it later on I'm just going to jump to it right now his reasoning I'm like that's why so you can tell your daughter that your wife fucked it up yeah like that's it's the kind of guy that's the kind of that Jesse is. Yeah, it's not a competition, buddy.

No. Like, either figure it out or you don't, but you don't place blame on your wife. Yeah. I don't know. The whole thing is very awful, yeah. Bizar. But we get the ladies playing Truth or Dare,

and have you ever pooped in a body of water? No. I haven't either. My cousin did once, but thinking back on it, he pooped into a Gatorade bottle. Is that a body of water? But he was in the stream.

when it happened. We're tubing. Okay, it's the summer in Pocono. So we're tubing. We may have, you know, indulged in a few beverages. Uh-huh. He had to poop. Okay.

He pooped into a Gatorade bottle. Impressive. Did he get in the water and poop into the bottle? Well, as we're floating, because our butts are in the water, you know? I guess she meed the pants down and pooped and put the water bottle or the Gatorade bottle. Wow, that's an aim. This is a good question, though. This is a good game.

I'm going to continue with the poop talk for a second. when you're in a relationship and you're in a hotel, you have to go to the bathroom. Yeah. Do you use the lobby bathroom or do you just go in the bathroom? I've done both. I've done both. But it's...

Mostly in the room, though. I've done a lot of lobby ones, but not so much because I was uncomfortable. It was more out of respect. It's like, I don't want to do this in the room. So I'm going to go downstairs. That's fair. I know. I think I've used the lobby one more on like a boys' truce.

trip when you're like both in the same room you're like I yeah yeah we just had like 15 pounds of barbecue I'm gonna hit the lobby one I need a separate separate vestibule for this sure yeah and that's a respect thing too it's just a little different that's a hey michael hey tom big news to share it right yes huge monumental earth shaking heartbeat sound effect big mink is back that's right after a brief snack nap we're coming back we're picking snacks We're eating snacks. We're raiding snacks. Like the snackologist we were born to be.

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question. When's the last time you had sex? And Brittany's response is a month and a half. And she starts going through it and says, you know, I want to feel like I'm still attractive, But my husband constantly puts me down, which we see, and the hangovers and all of that stuff and, like, looks and her drinking. And she's in his corner, and she's supporting him. Yeah. And she's not getting in return. If you watch the scenes, I mean, I thought it was a small, quick scene,

but you saw a lot in their scene when she's going to this girl's night. Because everything she's saying is just met with, like, ugh, like, we fucking leave already. Yeah. We got it. Like, get out of the house. And you get the clip of him chasing her around the house. with a kid in his arms saying fucking stop drinking like what you're a mom blah blah blah all that nonsense so i would imagine she's in a very dark place and it's like yeah you're married to jacks taylor

like he hasn't changed no he hasn't changed and i imagine being back on tv this is only going to get worse and worse so we get a 911 text from uh from daniel about the kids because again they're in an 89 degree apartment and jasmine says you know she does need this night and i agree and this is like a rock and a hard place. Yeah. Because I firmly agree. And, like, but Daniel strikes me, and again, we only see, you know, five episodes of these guys so far, but he strikes me as somebody that knows that because he seems pretty in tune with what she's going through. Yeah, no, he definitely does.

I think that when it comes down to it, they're the number one couple on the show. Oh, yeah. Sure. They're the number one couple across many shows. Yeah, definitely. And look, I mean, if he was doing this while she was on a girl's night, and it's the first time that she's been able to get out of the house for all. a long time. I think that he probably would have held back a little bit. But there's extenuating

circumstances. So he texted her. And I think she was going home that night regardless. I don't think she was staying. Oh, was she? I think so because she said, I'm going to have to get out of here a little early. So I'm just going to get my stuff. So maybe she was planning on staying a little later and then ended up doing it. I don't know really what the circumstance was, but Nia didn't seem to mind it too much. I think she understood what was going on. It was a dire situation. So she went home. I think he's fully in touch with what's going on. I think he's there emotionally for I think the scenes that we get and we get a little scene later where she's kind of walking him through what she's feeling. I think he's fully there for her. I have no reason to think the

otherwise. Yeah, I agree. I mean, that's the vibe I get at least. But the morning after Britney's hungover as fuck, like absolute mess. And she should have drank the bloody Mary. Yeah. You've got to get that first one down. You'll feel so much better. Push the hangover off. But that's the thing. She can't push the hangover off because I can't imagine having anxiety because you're driving back. Going back to Jacks. Yeah, and he's going to rip into you because you had a big night

after he told you to have a big night. And we see that happen later, but we get Daniel and Nia talking and they're like recapping the girl's night thing and we get to like the sex talk and all that stuff, but Nia relates to a lot of the things

that Brittany is saying and she starts to cry and she's like, you know, I just haven't felt like myself since the kids and I want to be happy. I really want to be happy. I'm trying and And she's like, you know, I don't want to say that I'm depressed, but, and he calls it out. He goes, you know, you're high functioning depression.

And she's like, well, I can be okay when I'm not. And she gets to her confessional. And that's like the diagnosis is high functioning depression, which is a serious thing. And I'm glad that she's able to talk about, especially with her battle of postpartum. Again, I hate that the producer asked her that question previously. But regardless, you see Daniel do what a lot of husbands on these shows don't. He says, you're not alone. I'm here with you.

We'll get through this. I understand you're going through it. It's hard, but I got you. And, like, it's just nice to see what should be most marriages. Yeah. Oh, it should be, sorry, all marriages. All, yeah. But it's nice to just see this moment and be like, all right, not all of these dudes are garbage pails.

That's nice. And you got Jason as well. Jason seems in tune with his wife. Like, yeah. Thank God for those couples. Normalcy. Especially on this show. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Valid question, though, for you? I never thought about this. I imagine you treat them the same way as real teeth because you're talking about a gum issue now. Yeah, do you brush them? Yeah, how often do you brush them? Same, right?

I would assume the same. It has to be the same. There's still going to be food in there, right? Yeah. And, I mean, if nothing else, you don't want to have bad breath. One and two, like the gums. I just feel like the gums. Also, yeah, you probably still do build up some sort of, maybe it's not tartar, but

why would it be different? Black or anything, it's probably, because it's not teeth. Who's got vener? Yeah. Can you let us know? We're not equipped to answer this one. What's the veneer protocol? How do you veneer?

I don't know. How to veneer. This is how I imagine it works. I think you do need to have some upkeep, but I think you probably have to go back to whether it's a dentist or whoever the hell does it to get them like bleached or colored or whatever every once in a while. The veneerologist? That sounds like something different. Yeah, that sounds way different.

That sounds like you have an STD and you need to get it cleaned up. Yeah, I don't care for that. Chronic STD problem. Let's not say that word again. Nearyologist? Yeah, that one. No, that one's going to stick. Yeah.

That's the one that's going to end up sticking. That's our dictionary word that we're going to get in. That's a bummer. That's what we're going to be known for. But Jackson and Brittany are recapping the night, and he's like, oh, you drink a lot. You came home throwing up, and she's like, you told me to have fun. I did. And now you're mad.

And you do this all the time. Jackson's like, no, uh, just last night. The boys came over there out by 815. So, and so I said, do you want to go out? I'm like, yeah, I'm going to show him a good time. I'm going to go out with him until 1015. Got home. we had some drinks here, went to bed at midnight.

So you got drunk. You went out, continued to get drunk, came back, had a nightcap, and then you passed out. That's no different. Just because your hangovers look better. Yeah. Does not mean that's a different scenario. Deep Payne said it the best. Got drinks to drink.

Got drunk. Yeah. Drunk him. Drunk him. But his reasoning for everything sucks. He's like, I'm a little worried. She's my wife and a mother. Like, we need you.

You're going to destroy your body. What's the difference between you getting fucked up and her getting fucked up? Why does he see that as like two separate things? Especially because she's the one who's away and on a girl's trip, if you will, even though it's just for one night. And you're supposed to be watching the kids. Right. So why?

You went out when you're supposed to be the sole responsible person for those kids. Yeah, you left her with Brittany's mom or is Jackson's mom? I assume it's Britney's mom. One of their moms. Always Britney's mom, yeah. It's always Brittany. So again, it's like, why, because she's the mother and going to destroy her body? Are you talking about future children?

Are you talking? Look, I get it if all he was doing was saying when you do go out, don't overdrink and don't come home and start vomiting everywhere. But that's not what he's doing. No, he's saying don't do that period. It's just hypocrisy. Well, like, just because you don't vomit doesn't mean that you don't go. There's no way that Jacks doesn't come home plastered. There's just no way.

There's just no way. In no world, yeah. Why is he putting all the onus on her? Like, you need to be clean and straight. I'm going to continue to fuck around, but, like, you need to get your shit. Yeah, I know. It's such bullshit. But they're recapping Jesse and Michelle and their sex life and all that stuff.

And Jack's like, well, how deep did you get into it? She's like, I told him. Like, we haven't fucked in a month and a half. And their conversation thereafter is, like, I don't know. It wasn't terrible, but I also thought. I thought he was trying to say the right things. It didn't seem genuine. He's like, you know, it's a lot of my fault.

Like, get in bed and I'm just exhausted. I need to rack out. And I'm super stressed out. And it goes, this just shows you how much it's eating away at her because this is a separate thing. They're talking about the sex life. But it leads to, yeah, I know you're stressed because then you take your stress out on me. There's like 15 things going on in this one conversation about sex.

It just shows you, like he's got her in a mental pretzel. And again, Brittany's not my favorite. I think he does a lot to produce and, like, overdo it sometimes. But you can't help it feel bad for her here because it's like, fuck, I can't imagine trying to talk sense into this guy. Have a normal conversation about how you're feeling and have it reciprocated in a genuine fashion where he's actually hearing, understanding, and processing instead of like, yeah, but. And it was, but it was one of those conversations that they, like you said,

they went through a lot of different things. And I don't even think they were realizing that they were talking about that. many different issues that they have in their marriage and obviously it does come back to not having sex like if things aren't right in your relationship you might not be having sex that's just how it works but it was one of those conversations that ends with those awkward jokes yeah should we do butt stuff like ha ha ha ha jacks are so funny it's like yeah no and any time that I see a conversation like that where it's a hard conversation and you get through all of it and you feel like you're saying the right things and then when you end it with a joke nothing's going to come of it nothing was

accomplish because it's not now all of a sudden it's not a serious conversation you just lightened up a conversation that you needed to have with a couple of jokes at the end because you were uncomfortable yep so now you're just going to push that conversation off for another month and a half yep that's exactly what happened and you know he says like the d word doesn't exist in my family i'm very curious as to where they stand right now because that's the thing we know they're separated living in separate homes as far as what their future is i haven't heard a lot on divorce or like no it's like legal separation honestly we thought that it was all for the show so we might be a little behind me eight ball on this one anyway yeah that's a good point

so i'm curious like what the end game not game but like where they're going yeah is it ending in divorce is this just like a big split and they figure it out like i don't know i have no idea but the way she's talking on podcast like she's very aware that he treats her like shit so i'm curious I want to see where this ends up. Yeah. The last... Season two. Yeah, maybe.

But the last scene, do you think we're going to get season two before we get in the last scene where it's her Airbnb and Jacks at home? Yeah, absolutely. You think that's going to have that. I think we're going to have that. I think that Michelle and Jesse are both going to be on the show

and they're going to be figuring out dating. I do too. While doing split custody or whatever might be happening there, I think it's going to be a completely different show and it might be better. Oh, that's going to be great. Yeah, we love messy, though. With these people, I'm okay with Messy.

As long as Kristen and Luke are good, because I'm starting to at least like them. We know what Kristen's doing, but we like Luke. We like Jason and Janet, for the most part. I still think that Janet's a little sneaky, and she was involved in that whole conversation where it came to Michelle. But for the face value, we like the two of them, and we love Danny and Nia. So the three of them can stick together. The other two messes, I want to see that unfold. I agree, which is fucked up to say, but that's why we watch these shows.

but Jesse and Michelle are the last scene and they're recapping everything and the therapy and Jesse brought it all up I will agree with you what you said earlier just as far as this is a different side than we've seen entirely from both of them yeah from Jesse and from Michelle yeah

because because you get an actually emotional Jesse which we have not seen yet then you get a very cold Michelle and I think that as I'm watching this scene what I take from that is not that she's nasty or anything like that it's more so like i think that she was in a place to try before i think that he wasn't delivering for an extended period of time after the baby was born

and i think that they've reached a place where she's like i don't think i care enough anymore to try to make this work and i can't fake it right that's what i get i don't get that she is the villain in this thing i get much more that she's just done like she's fed up and where he wants to try and make it work for the family for isabella whatever the reasoning may be I think it's too far gone in her mind where she's like, I don't like you. I do not like you because I hold on to this resentment that you abandoned me with a kid. Yeah, I think that's a possibility. I think for the first time ever, I felt a little bad for Jesse because it looked like he was trying and he was actually emotional about it.

And Michelle was just completely tuned out. And you might be a thousand percent right. It's just too far gone. And she's already made her decision that she's done with him. And he hasn't, look, if he's the type of guy that already got a second chance, we don't know what happened the first time around. They don't go into the details of why Michelle wanted to move out in the first place. Right. Because that, I feel like we kind of need to know if Jesse was doing all these things during COVID. And then all of a sudden he just started popping out and doing everything when it opened back up.

I guess that wore down on her and she decided I'm going to move out. Okay, fine, whatever. You gave him a second chance. He probably performed well for maybe a month or two and then went right back to his old shit. So that's all kind of adding up. It's just tough to watch scenes like this. Yeah. when marriages are falling apart and look we don't root for it but it makes for great TV so we'll

have to see how it unfolds and we'll have to see how Jesse's reaction is because again he is emotional in this scene but he's still also talking shit on her to his friends yes so pick a lane like you don't get to do both I don't know and I'm actually I'm genuinely curious I hope they both come back because I want to see them out of this marriage yeah I agree are they better people Is Jesse not such a piece of shit when he's not in a marriage he doesn't want to be in and vice? Because I think Jesse wants to stay together simply for... Just for Isabella. Yes.

And I think that Michelle has reached a point where it's insurmountable and wants to do her own thing. And I think it would be refreshing to see her in a better light where she's not weighed down by this whole thing. And I'd be curious to see if Jesse is still a full-blown piece of shit or if he's just an arrogant asshole because there is a difference. Yeah. So I'm curious. I hope they bring them both back next season for that reason. time will tell time will tell

I would imagine that they will extend the offer because they're both delivering they definitely are yeah I mean you can't write the history of this show so far without both of them no I think everybody in this show

is bringing it like I don't have more from Jason I could yeah also they're not on the screen as much I know and and that could also just be

because of the way that they wanted to frame the first season just being like look we're going to have a lot of jacks we're going to have a lot of Kristen oh shit there's a marriage falling apart

let's focus on them too. Right. And then the other was just kind of get left out a little bit. But we'll see. I mean, give it a little growing pains. Wait till next season. And hopefully they're both back. Yeah.

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Yes, even there. Let's get into those questions. Wrap this bad boy up because I still have not reacclimated from being in Italy for 10 days. Alia. Yeah. M. Norino asks, are we watching Playoff Sixers? We sure as hell are. Yeah, we are. We're watching the game cast and driving steal crazy. Yep. I get it.

Annie McDonald says, over under, Michelle cheated on Jesse. I guess it would be 0.5. Is it be over under a 0.5? Man. I don't know. I do not know. Yeah. If she did, and this is fucked up, I hope it's with Quentin Tarantino.

Yeah, so why. Savor this asks, do you think Michelle and Jesse separated before the season, but still had to fulfill their contracts? That's actually a very interesting premise. No, I don't. I don't think so. We're getting some raw emotion right now. Yeah, but that could also be if they're forced to go back and film together and they haven't. I don't think so, but I don't think so.

I think that that's plausible. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, it would be impossibly tough to go film with somebody that you just separated with. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's more they were kind of teetering as it was

whether or not Jesse wants to admit it. Let's get through this season. The scrutiny of being on camera and having the film scenes together and do all this kind of drove them apart, which we've seen a million times before. Mr. C.J. Harper asks, Do we feel that the cast needs the VPR veterans moving forward?

No. No, no, no. I don't think he means, like, an influx of other ones. Oh, Jackson, Kristen? Yeah. I think they definitely do. Yeah, look, we can answer both, but, yeah, I think they absolutely need Jackson, Kristen. I don't think that they need the influx from VPR.

No, I don't think they need the crossover, but look, you can say what you want, man, they're delivering. We'll do one more from R.M. Lays. thoughts on Luke after watching him on the show he's more toxic that's what they said he's more toxic oh I haven't gotten toxic yet

I haven't gotten toxic at all honestly I do think that I've gotten more volatile yeah he's definitely way more volatile I think he's done a better job of keeping his emotions in check now but it looks like we get another blow up a little bit later

um at Jesse's in a space what are you gonna do it reminded me of stepbrothers you look like you want to punch me in the face but you won't. That's absolutely going to happen. But no, I think that Kristen's pulling the strings with him in his confessions, probably.

But, I mean, at some point, like, Kristen can't control everything, and he's got to be on his own of these boy days at the pool. I think he's doing a pretty good job. I don't think he's really being toxic yet. I haven't gotten toxic from him. No, I think he's been probably coached on how reality TV works. Puppet it a little bit, sure, but toxic. Sure.

We'll call it out if we see it. Yeah, absolutely. But that's all I got. You got anything? No, I'm pooped, man. Pooped. I'm a pooped little potato right now. Pooped in the body of water.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a feat of, I don't know what the word is. I said strength earlier, but that's... Willpower? Probably. That would take a lot of willpower, but I also, I felt poor, man. There's just sometimes, whof. There was an old baseball rule.

You get two a year. You can shit your pants twice a year. That's a bigger problem in baseball than people know. I would imagine it would be. Especially when you play hungover at like 10 a. Yeah. Yep. If you, if you look,

word of advice, don't do a bunch of Yeagerbombs until three in the morning before a 10 a.m. game in Myrtle Beach. I guess an adult diaper probably doesn't look great in baseball pants. I would wear it. There was one time at Ohio State, one of my, I worn it up in the bullpen, and the pitcher was going into the game. And as he stretched his leg up over the fence, this man pitched in the major leagues, by the way. I won't say his name.

But he put one leg over the fence, and as he did, he just went stone cold and looked at me and goes oh god I was like what he's like I just shit he was like what he goes I just shit and he had to go in to the game and pitch three outs oh god wow that takes willpower and he this man pitched in the major leagues

so maybe that's what you need for him yeah glad we got that story out before the end of the episode me too you get a late little uh little anecdote a nugget the late little nugget Yep. Rob, bro, see ya. Here, the most popular fiction podcast of all time,

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