Bros & Shows - The Valley's Stock is Plummeting (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

What's up Bros? The Valley has taken a miserable turn. Not only are ratings plummeting but this was just a bad episode. In this episode we wrap up the trip to Santa Barbara. Britany, Janet and Jasmine are maintaining that Nia and Danny dont share enough. They also take it upon themselves to diagnose him as an alcoholic which is problematic in its own right. Jesse meets with his "life coach". Michelle tells Scheana that Aaron may end up leaving her if the Jesse situation doesn't get better. Luke picks out a ring for Doute. The ladies sit down to dinner in an attempt to clear the air with Nia who is very upset about how the other night was handled. And after making a pinky promise to not talk behind each others backs, they talk behind her back again and start to discuss Danny's drinking. Janet better hope that Jason's side of the street is squeaky clean because it looks like some focus is shifting there now... Not to mention, comparing Danny to an ex boyfriend that was an addict is horrible behavior and not at all how those situations should be handled. This show is one of our fav's but this was arguably its worst showing yet. hopefully they can right the ship sooner than later! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. And shows, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell. joined as always by the one and only Sheener Goots. What's up, dude? We've got a real problem on our hands. Oh, boy. Real problem with the valley. You're coming in hot. What's up?

Yeah. So, you've heard the rumors that ratings have dropped. Yep. There's a lot of issues. Even somebody putting things out there saying that they were thinking about putting it on pause. Yep. Which Bravo always said they're not going to. Not true. That's fair. They've got a problem on their hands. If we have more episodes like this one, it's going to be rough.

This was a weird episode. This was an irritating. episode what are the ratings at like what's the drop in ratings is it like a significant drop or we getting the peacock no it's not so this is including peacock 700k for the first episode which is very good for them last episode was under 300 really uh huh why jacks got to be jacks because he's off or because no i think so i thought about that too i think it is partly because he's not on the show anymore but mostly because it's too dark yep i think that's that's true i think you run the risk of we said that in the first episode when that shit got so sketchy it's like we're towing the line here of like we're not supposed to see this kind of stuff it was abuse you watched

abuse on a show yeah we watched abuse and then we watched the abuser get more camera time correct so that's a bad bad recipe so i feel like it probably definitely dropped what was that episode two yeah so we'll say it dropped after episode two we as podcasters that have watched a lot of these shows we can call it out but we're going to continue to watch and we can kind of compartmentalize sure, and say the rest of the show is really good. Keep these assholes together. They seem like they're going to have a lot of fun. It's going to be chaos.

It's going to be great. But I understand why people stopped watching for Jacks. I completely get it. And I think that's why we talk about a lot. Get them out of here. He doesn't need to come back to the show. And I think their best plan of action moving forward would just be to come out and say, hey, he's not coming back and would bring viewers back to this show because it is a good show.

And you do have a solid cast in spite of Jack's Taylor. but that is a risk you run when you show those kinds of things on TV and honestly to the point of Jack's getting more screen time after the fact, I look at fucking Germain because Jeremiah is part of the production crew now he's an EP on this show or a producer

I don't care which one but again we see another example of horrible behavior from a guy I'm not saying they went full-blown redemption art but you still gave him enough time to explain his side of things the minute that he was doing that shit on camera, they should have shoved him in a car, drove him to a treatment center,

and then stopped. But instead, we listened to Brittany talk about the rage text. We read the rage text after watching him abuse are on TV, then we see more abuse via text message. So this went from, yeah, we know it's dark, and yeah, we don't want to see it on TV, to now you're shoving it down our throats. So I can completely understand why people that aren't in our situation

where we have to watch these. said fuck this. Yeah, absolutely. And then the rest of us who continued to watch it had to watch this episode tonight. This was bizarre. This is way worse for me.

After all of that shit happened, we knew what was going to happen when it came to Jacks. We heard all the things in the off season. We somewhat braced ourselves. This episode was fucking awful. From start to finish, this episode sucked balls.

It was just a big zero. The drama they decided to focus on was so convoluted because of the Nia and the Danny thing. And we'll get into all of that. And I do understand Jasmine's perspective to a certain extent. Yeah. And I'll talk about that later.

She would stay. Yeah, I don't want to get into it. Yeah, well, we'll get there when we get there. But let's jump in because I agree. This was quite possibly one of my least favorite Valley episodes between both seasons. I think this was the worst Valley episode. It might have been. And that's not good timing considering their fighting ratings now.

Yeah. So hopefully they're able to figure it out and take a different approach. But let's jump in because we got Brit. We got Zach, we got Jasmine, and we got Nia, they're finishing up the conversation from last episode, and I love that Zach leads it off by calling out Brittany. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you

not protect Jacks all the time for his behavior for the drugs, for the alcohol, for everything he was doing? And she's like, well, yeah, but and then Jasmine, who has taken on the role of Britney's mouthpiece. And again, her perspective of this whole thing,

and it comes out later why she's so triggered, and I understand that because she has an actual experience with Danny and it made her feel a type of way and seeing him drunk again makes her feel a type of way. Fine. Okay. That I can get on board with. But when she's saying, you know, she's on display and she calls out one little thing. It's like, again, guys, we talked about this ad nauseum last week. Nobody there looked at Danny and said he's not drunk. Yeah. Nobody at home watching didn't think he was drunk. Why is the semantics so important in this scene? I don't really understand it.

And I think it's just them attacking Nia because she's decided to live a normal life. Yeah, that's what it is like. Where they're going to fight behind closed doors and they're not going to air out their shit on TV, I guess. We have to have some perspective as an audience. The things that we usually see on reality TV don't happen in real life. And if it was real life, it would be problematic. Sure. This is not part of that.

You can look at this and say, wow, okay, you guys seem pretty buttoned up. Maybe you could share a little bit more. Nia shares a little bit more and they, I don't want to get into that. That piss me off even more. But the biggest problem with all of this is all three of them and Janet doesn't get involved in this situation

but Brittany talking about how she's sharing her life and she has to do this and has to do that nobody forced you to share your life. No, and you're married to Jack's Taylor so obviously it's going to be a little bit more polarizing and a little more up front because he's a gigantic piece of shit. Correct. And Nia was correct last week

when she said just because you're going through something doesn't mean you have to attack me. That's perfectly said Because it makes no sense that you're attacking The two normal ones Again, Jasmine, I get it He was fucking creepy You have a problem with that

The root of this whole thing is You guys had a conversation Where he apologized But that wasn't enough for you And that's okay, it doesn't have to be But you need to talk to Danny I have a question about the apology thing Okay

We've seen this video three times now Sure It is in total about five seconds They sat down and filmed the whole scene Show us the whole scene of this I agree If it's going to be this big of an issue and we're going to drag this on forever, and we even get towards the end of this episode when Jasmine says,

I have to have a conversation with Danny. Jason also says the same thing. Let's get the whole fucking video. I agree. You guys filmed the whole scene. Let's see what the context is. And we can be the people that sit here as a third party and say, yeah, you know what? There's contrition there.

He feels bad. This could be a one-off situation. Right now, Danny is drunk. He worked all night. He came home or he came back. He got drunk at the winery. And he fell asleep. I don't he's not bothering anybody by doing that everyone else was also drinking by the vacation

so the the accusations they're making and the snafu that they're causing because of this it was confusing for me from the jump like i understood where brittany was not where she was coming from where she was trying to come from and saying you guys don't share anything it's like well no one really pressed nia about it you waited until she left the table and then you started talking shit because she said my husband's tired instead of my husband's drunk And do you know why they're doing all of this, by the way? Why? Because they're drunk.

Correct. You've got a drunk sleeping person over here that you're bitching about, but you guys are drunk not making any sense to somebody who's standing alone, confused as to what you're coming after her for. And by the way, the nicest person on the cast. Yeah. Who has been there for every single one of you to comfort you when you go through your shit. Never talks shit behind that. And never asks for anything back, by the way. No.

And there are a lot of times last year when she was going through postpartum and she was, explaining to all of us, the audience, that she was going through that and having a hard time. Did any of them step up and say, you know what? We need to sit with you and talk with you. They did, sure, for the cameras, I don't fucking believe that any of these losers are going to go over to Nia's house off camera and go help her. I don't either. No, they're dorks. Yep, I don't either.

And, you know, for Jasmine to say, no one has Britney's back. It's like, what? Yeah, that's fucking. That's all anyone's done. Everyone's had her back during this whole Jack's thing. So that makes no sense either. Why do we need to have Britney's back? What? There's nothing going to know. Because Nia's not sharing her life on reality TV and

Brittany did. We have to have Britney's back right now. It makes no sense. Jasmine, again, you're the person who should be stepping up here and saying, look, this may be uncomfortable. This is what's going on. And then people can have your back. And you know what? You can probably have a constructive conversation with Nia because after what we see towards the end of the episode, she knows about it. And I'm sure she's probably waiting for it. She's probably sitting there like, yeah, you know what? We do need to have a whole conversation about all of this. If it still makes you uncomfortable to see him drunk, you and I should sit down together. Danny can be there.

Melissa can be there. We can have a full discussion. And you guys will get to the bottom of it and probably feel better afterwards. Correct. Instead, you're taking Brittany's side because she's pissed off that Nia is not sharing. Because, like, stupid. It is. And like later, when Jasmine's at the table with Nia and everybody and she's talking through it,

and she gets to that point where, wow, maybe I'm not over. It's like, that's okay. And that's what the root of this whole thing is. And Danny wakes up and, like, walks into this. shitstorm and he's like what the fuck's going on nobody explains it to him so he goes back to his room and nia and danny sit down for a talk and he's just like what the fuck and she goes through it she's like you know everyone's saying nia's lying not one person came to me at the table by the way and said is danny drunk i just kept saying that you were tired yeah and you did drink too much

by the way and that's neither here nor there and danny's like well no i didn't i'm like well you're not going to help here just you do a lot more yeah what he was like yeah i was like the same as everyone else. It's like, don't just say I was drunk. He's right the same as Jesse. It's just that Jesse could handle him more. Jesse started away earlier, so he had a longer time. And Jesse also reiterated that his ex-wife is a whore and Correct. And no one's saying shit to him.

I'm like, what the fuck is this double standard going on right now? Oh, dude, it's double standards across the board. It's wild. Yeah. And that's not good for a show. This is a crazy double standard too, by the way, if we're going to just focus in on Danny's drinking right now. What happens last year?

Brittany got accused of drinking too much by Jacks. And we saw Jacks yell at her through the door. And Brittany was saying, I'm a mom. I've got a lot going on. When I get some time with my friends, yeah, I go a little crazy and I have shots because, you know, that's what she does. She's going to be ripping shots. Everybody wants a shot. The chef coming in, you want some shots?

That's Britney's thing. So why is it a problem now that Daddy's doing it? Because... Jasmine didn't explain the whole situation to you. You're now bitching at knee or something. So, like, the whole double standard thing is crazy with these people. It's so dumb. and it's not entertaining and that's the worst part it's not entertaining it's getting stuck

on semantics yeah hate we hate when we get stuck on semantics it's word choice and it's so fucking dumb yeah we can move on from this but that's the best point the reason why they're blowing this up is because 90% of the people in there are fucked up relationships danny and nia are solid and they want them to have problems because they make themselves feel worse about their own relationships. That's not their fault. And also, they decide to handle things differently. Can you argue that because they're on reality TV, they need to be a little bit more open

about things they're going through? Sure. That's a valid point. The way that you're going about it with this, this is not a sticking point. No one at home promise, because we're the ones at home, no one at home gives a fuck if you say he's sleepy or he's drunk because he's both and we all get that. Yeah. So dumb.

It's such a whiff. But then you get Janet, Brittany, and Jasmine, like debriefing, which great. And these two are talking about the tequila swig that Danny took in the closet, which I can agree if you're hiding and slugging from the bottle. It's a little weird. And they bring up clearly he has a drinking problem. Just talk about it. Janet's been with an addict and an alcoholic before.

Okay. Not sure how that correlates, but I have a whole thing to say about that. Also, the whole, like him slugging, which we talked about last week. Yeah. There's a lot of problems there. Sure. Mostly the fact that it's like, you know, it's room temperature tequila. What are you doing?

Why are you doing that? I mean, it could have also very easily not been a hidden thing. It could have just been simple, like he said. This is where the alcohol was. Is it still a problem that he goes in and grabs a high noon? And then he looks up and goes, oh, I want to swing a tequila. The shutting of the door is some weird shit in there. Yeah, for sure.

The shutting of the door, maybe the door shut behind him. Who knows? But again, this could easily be Janet saw it and is blowing it up to something else. More than likely. I mean, I agree that. There's some cause for concern. Yeah. For sure, but this is a weird way to go about it.

You go about it the right way. Yeah. She's like, no one cares about the nap. It's the hiding and it's the denial. You know what you should do then? Talk about it behind Nia's back a lot on TV. That's a great way to handle this whole thing. But Danny and Nia are still talking and Nia's like, you know, I support Brittany all the time.

And anytime I have an issue, I bring it to her. I don't talk behind her back. And that's what hurts Nia the most is just them talking behind her back. and she goes to a confessional she's like look Danny and I are more reserved we protect one another because we feel like if we're fighting it's nobody else's problem I'm like that's a very normal thing to do it's a very normal thing to do in a relationship in real life

again if cast members have an issue with you guys not addressing certain things on camera because that is part of the job okay fine but the hill they chose to die on to support that theory was the dumbest one they could have picked he's drunk he's tired Who fucking cares? But we get to the morning

and everyone's going their separate ways You get cars trying to leave early To avoid the awkwardness Which is also a problem for me Like address it in the morning Why are we shifting around Like make them talk in the morning But whatever

Let's get to your favorite scene Because we get Michelle and Sheener Going on a hike And they've gotten really close She sold her her house Isabella and Summer They're very close It's all really nice, you know?

This is the most manufactured scene In Valley history Valley history. Yeah. Easily. This was so stupid. This was such a waste of time. It looked like Shino was reading off of Q cards.

Yeah. Like it was so bad. You know Lala's in the next episode, too. Oh, gosh. We got to go back to back. So, like, disclaimer, before the episode starts, please. One, two, we're on a downward trend with this show. And now you're going to bring in those two?

Yep. That seems like a bad idea to me. Thanks, Jermaine. God damn it. You know what's good. God damn it. Mm, we said this before the season. And the season started off so well.

I know. And then the Jack shit. And now this shit. And then Sheena and Lala. And fucking Germain strikes again. Jeremiah ruined shows. No one listens to us. We say this all the time.

We've called it out since VPR finale. Germain is a problem. He fucks up shows. He fucks up good shows. Stop signing him on to do more shows. What the fuck? How hard is it? And why does Bravo continuously shoot themselves in the foot with good shows?

Why are they not putting the fun people from VPR on here? I have no idea. We're Schwartz. I don't know. I would love to see shorts. I know Katie probably doesn't want to be on it. Ariana probably doesn't want to be on it. Because they don't need it.

The fame-hungry losers want to be on it. Yes, the ones that pined for attention to get back on the screen and pined for a paycheck, those are the ones we have back. You know, we got an email. I feel like you guys would love to know this, and this was an official email. You guys can support Lala's, I think it was like a Pita thing that she's doing. Oh, she did this Pita photo. The whole, like, C-World, like, anti-Cworld thing, which, by the way, great cause. We're on board for the cause.

Who would not care less about Lala? You came to the wrong people. No, we don't give a shit. We'd give a shit about SeaWorld being a fucked up place. Yeah, but, like, oh, I didn't expect to have this much animosity. I thought we were just going to, like, shrug this one through, and I guess not. It's pissing me off. I've been pissed off since I watched.

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Listen to Unspooled wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget to hit the follow button. But let's talk about A-A-A-Ron, because Michelle's like, you know, everything's perfect, but then with Jesse, it's all been a disaster. If this guy really loves you, the ex-husband wouldn't be this much of a problem. I just don't know if I can deal with a crazy ex. Well, then you're a pussy. He is, for sure.

Old crazy eyes, Aaron. the other problem is, and this is kind of funny, if both Michelle and Jesse, if one of them could just not react or not be so petty, it's impossible. It would be done. The other one would lose interest. The other one would stop.

They would feel like neglected. They wouldn't be able to do it anymore. Because they're both doing it to each other, it's like crack. Like they need it. Yeah. They need to be as petty as possible because I love the reaction that I get from her.

And when she comes back and she does it to me, I love it even more. Going back and forth. Like, it's a fucked up relationship. I'm sure in Aaron doesn't seem like a normal person. No. But a normal person could be like, you know, maybe I'm going to break up with you because you can't stop doing this with your ex. That would be a different story.

It's not because Jesse's showing up at like 3 o'clock in the morning screaming, giving me my daughter back. Right. Which I don't think is happening. No, no, no. He's not claiming that that's a thing. For the record. But like, that would be a problem.

Sure. That would be a, hey, you've got a crazy ex-husband. He's invading your actual. this is brutal I do love you but like you know we've only been dating for a year and cheating for two years before that so maybe we just kind of like hang out a little bit and figure this thing out no it's also the fact that you're doing this back to jesse you're so engulfed in this ex-relationship and i know you've got him in your life because you guys share a daughter you got to figure this out i agree and obviously michel's not going to read that like oh i need to

stop doing this with jesse no it just leave him alone like no all of this would go away And, like, I'm not blaming Michelle any more so than I'm blaming Jesse. Like you said, the problem is they're the same fucking person. So they just know how to poke each other. They continue to do it. Yep. But Aaron's reasoning of, like, it's been hard to accept, and it might be better if we're not together. It's like, is Jesse calling you?

No. Is he showing up to your house? No. Your only job here is to support your girlfriend who you claim to love, whose daughter says, I love you to you, by the way. Yeah. If the daughter is at that point where she's saying, I love you, you better be able to hang in there just because Jesse's a little nuts. Yeah.

Like I didn't like Aaron from the jump because he decided to get involved in the parenting conversation. This is just another strike against him. And then him just being weird is his third strike. I think God, She was there to provide some insight, though. She didn't do anything. She didn't say anything? No. I can't actually think of anything.

I didn't write down anything that she said. Not one Sheena quote. I didn't even notice that until I looked at. I remember a wow, that's really tough. Yeah. What do we need this? Thank you, Sheena. Like, I just, what are they doing to the fucking show?

What happened? Could it just been Michelle. And by the way, we didn't really need the scene. I mean, I guess. We didn't need this scene. We didn't need the scene. She could have talked about Aaron with somebody else. Yeah.

Yeah. What are we doing? I was going to say we could just have her with like AirPods walking that trail. Talking to Sheena. On the phone. And we don't hear Sheena. And we don't see Sheena. We barely heard Sheena anyway.

My whole point is what the fuck are, how does this? this show takes such a 180 in one episode? I don't know. It's bizarre. It's so bad. Like, it's hard to do that. It was so tough. I haven't had the urge to turn off a Bravo show in a while.

I was scrolling. I wanted to turn it off. I had to stop and rewind so many times. So I think my levels are scrolling is somewhere in the middle. Like, if it's boring, scroll. Yeah. Obviously. If it's really irritating, also scroll.

Yeah. But it's a different way, like an angry scroll. It's a scroll with like a glance up. I'm going to Twitter to like get pissed off about something like for the push push. which you know Touch push is still around here to stay yep one more season um

but this was the ultimate I just wanted to hit that X so bad it was just so irritating dude it was so irritating but let's get the Jesse and his life coach Scott that was the life coach remember we were trying to think of the life coach recently

it was him it was Scott yeah they showed that scene I'm like that's the fun yeah same as soon as I saw it was like there you just like a friend yeah this is just a dude that happens to maybe be a life coach that charges his friend's money to talk to about their shit. But this was the only part of the episode. And then this isn't part of the Jesse bit. This was the only part of the episode where I'm like, this is kind of funny.

It was kind of funny. Because at the same time, it's like people pay you for this advice? Like, oh my God, because they're sitting there talking. You know, Jesse's mad at himself because of how he reacted to everything. And he's like, you know, I get triggered way too easily. And I'm trying to work my way through this whole thing. And we get more from the scene of Michelle and Jesse going back and fourth, which I think is important for context, because before he called her a whore,

and before she threw the drink in his face, she tried to spin the cheating allegations and say, you're telling me when you were out and about neglecting me and drinking wine, you weren't cheating. It's like, you don't get to say that. You can totally blame him for being a neglectful husband and father because that's bullshit. Keep hammering that one home. You can't as the cheater then try to spin it to you probably cheated. It's like, no, no, no.

That's not how this game works. Yeah. Just stick with the bad dad, bad husband for a couple years. His life coach was just, it was, he spoke more than Sheena did. He did, and he was agreeing with Jesse the whole time. He's just enabling Jesse. There's no constructive criticism. There's no like, hey, man, maybe look inward.

All he said was like, don't react because it makes you look like a dick. That's the other thing with like a life coach versus a therapist. If it was a therapist or a psychologist that was saying it, we would be freaking out. Yeah. and saying, like, revoke this person's license, do this. As soon as life coach comes on the screen, it's going to be funny. And if you're a life coach at home and you're probably way better at your job than the ones we see on TV. So don't take this personally.

We're talking about Bravo TV life coaches. It's very specific. But they keep talking. And, you know, he gives them the whole, like, this sounded like some shit you would read on like a cheesy Instagram post. He's like, you know, you got to think about like watering your garden and your life is the garden. and waters attention. And if you water your flowers, what happens if you water poison ivy?

I was like, I don't even know. I think poison ivy just grows. I'm assuming if you watered it, it would keep growing. But poison ivy is such a bitch because you don't water it and it still grows. So what are we talking about here? I think he scrambled when I was listening to that at the very end of like,

I mean, it all like sounds, yes, it's very generic. Like, I read a book on therapy one time and I remember this quote. No, it's I listened to a therapy podcast.

podcast. But then he forgot what the quote was at the end. When he threw poison ivy in there, I'm like, what fucking talking about? Why did we take that turn? You could have just said what happens if you don't pay attention to your flowers. You don't want to poison your garden. It completely negates what he was trying to say.

It's like if you focus your attention on your garden, it'll grow. If you don't, you know, focus your attention elsewhere, the flowers die. That's what you say. Not a poison. Or if you focus too much attention over here, you're going to overwater it and it's not to work. That would have worked as well. It would work as well.

Poised Ivy. You know what? He just watched Batman forever. So he had, uh, Ruma Thurman in his mind. So hot in that movie. That's, that's exactly what it was. He was saying sub-zero quotes, uh, or Mr. Freeze, sorry, Mr. freeze quotes. If you haven't

listened to the puns on Hey, Batman, chill. Chill. Chill. Tonight's forecast Deep Freeze. Great movie. It's not. Tommy Lee Jones is there, too.

Tommy Lee Jones is Two-Face. Oh, wait, no, that was- No, that's Batman Forever. It's, who's the- Batman 2000? Oh my God, I forgot about Batman 2000. Batman. Batman and Robin.

Batman and Robin is Mr. Freeze. And Poison Ivy. And that's-Nem-Ferver is Jim Carrey as a Riddler. Is that Clooney Batman? Yes, it's Clooney. Looney Batman's in Batman and Robin. Batman 2000 was-and-comer, wasn't it? Yes.

No, no, he was before that. but in Batman and Robin, you also get Alicia Silverstone is that girl. At the very end is the big reveal. And George Clooney has bat nipples. Yes, he does. Yeah, he does. He does.

Has nipples, which is a very strange choice. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Let's talk about that movie. That's way more fun than this episode. Can you milk me? Anyway, Jesse screams into a pillow and also, once again, makes this guy look like he has no credibility

because you're either going to laugh when you're done, you're going to cry. Jesse doesn't do either of those things. He says, I feel a little better. A little better. Thanks. You know what makes sense. Here's $1,000. Bye.

No way he got charged for that. That's just his friend. Let's get to Luke and Doty because they were sweet. There's such a bright spot on this show. I know. And, like, who would have thought that they're like the normal voice of reason? Luke has become like the best. He's the number one guy in the group.

He is the number one guy in the group. And he's the only man in the group. Yeah. I love Luke and Doty. These two give me a reason to. keep watching this show. But they just rented a new house with a pool. They're only renting because they're not figuring out where they're going to put their roots. We know that Luke doesn't want to be in L.A. forever. But this is the first step in his big plan. As we know, he's been thinking

about a proposal. So that's exciting. And then Jasmine joins. And we get a trip recap. And I loved, like, again, up until the end of this episode, I was like, oh, okay, I like how she's handling this because she comes in and she apologizes. She got knocked down a bit of a peg. It seemed like she just kind of like under still, like, I think I came in too hot. Just briefly, you could see a look on her face during this conversation where she's like, yeah, yeah, all right. I guess that makes sense. And it's, and by the way, Luke and Doty are only just speaking logic.

Sure. They're not like spraining any brain muscles to go through all of this. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to look at it from the other way. So yeah, of course Jasmine's going to have that kind of reaction. She's sitting here. She's outnumbered. And it's like, oh, maybe I did get a wrong read on this one, guys. Because again, like, I don't want to.

to take away from what occurred between her and Danny because I think that's important. I think that she's, if she feels some type of way, it's not up to anybody to tell her to feel different. Nobody can say like she's like blowing it out of proportion. Like get over it. You know, like, that would be insane to say. Like, you can't do that. You can look at the certain things in what she's doing and say, why the fuck are you going with Brittany? In this moment. You have a plausible reason to be upset to feel weird that Danny's doing these things. And again, this is another conversation where, Yeah, she, like, kind of brings it up to them, but you didn't bring it up to Nia. No, and that's the thing.

Like, if you got to the root of it, and again, if you had talked to Nia, period, you didn't even talk to her. I don't even know if she talked to Brittany about it. Like, she could just be. They were just talking, because that's the whole thing. The focus of the conversation was they don't share their life. It's like, but that's not the root here. And also, I'll give her, again, because of this scene, let's just go through this scene. I'll tell you my perspective of it.

But she apologizes, like, you know, I got a little hot. And, you know, it's just Danny's drinking comes up. And Luke's like, well, and Doty, they're both like, well, couldn't you just ask? Like, hey, is Danny drunk? Her confessional, I'm like, dude, she's like, I'm sorry. But you stand in a booth and talk. How tired can you be? I'm like, he still has three kids under three.

He left Santa Barbara at 11 p.m. to get home, woke up early to get there at 5 a.m. to work, left there and drove. Yes, he's fucking tired. We know he had to stop at home to get some shit. Because, yeah, yeah, we heard that phone call. That conversation. And also, he has three children under three, even if he didn't work. He's probably fucking exhausted.

I did feel for her when she says, you know, because she's like, you know, people don't take my relationship seriously because when they see two women together, they think it's not as big of a deal. You're more susceptible to people poking fun or people making inappropriate advances or comments. I'm like, all right, that makes sense. For sure. That makes sense. It's got to be difficult to deal with.

And then you had to deal with that with one of your friends. And you're right. Had this been Janet, had this been a woman in the group that's married to a man, it would have been a much bigger problem. Totally agree with you. We get a scene with Luke and Danny picking out a ring. He picks out a really nice ring from Kyle Chan. There's no other jeweler in L.A. baby.

He's the only L.A. jeweler? I like Kyle Jay. I have no problem with him making an appearance here. I was watching the VPR episode the other night of Jack's going to Kyle to pick out Britney's ring. Oh, God. Oh, boy. But that left me some money. I spent most of it on the ring.

Oh, buddy. And then I stole his retro car. God. Oh, my God. But it was sweet to hear Luke talk about her. And I do believe that, you know, this is not a TV romance. I do believe these two are in love. And, you know, he's talking about their ups and downs, the highs and the lows.

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and Edgar Wright's The Running Man starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. We get Jesse and Isabella and a quick Michelle FaceTime about dropping off a key. Only thing I want to point out here, okay, because nothing really happens in this scene. But she says that Jesse gives Isabella everything she wants. Isabella was throwing a little bit of a fit about a key. Not blaming her, she's four. I'll drive it over scene five.

Yeah, that's kind of the same thing. Kind of the same thing, Mom. That's all I'm saying there. It's kind of the same thing. You're the same person, whatever. But also, I forgot the Crocs and the orange sippy cup. I'll bring that over tomorrow. Yeah.

So it's two days in a road now you're going over there. That's a good point. That's a good point. Interesting point. But let's get to Brittany's house for the girl dinner because that's what the majority of this episode really is. I've got multiple pages of notes on this disaster. But get Chef Gino there because he's nice to look at.

What's up, Chef Gino? and Nia arrives, you can tell everybody's on edge, and it's this awkward silence as they sit down at the table. It's all the ladies in the group, and Brittany finally brings it up, and she apologizes for how it came out. We were drinking all day. Jasmine apologizes as well.

Everyone's saying, sorry. I'm like, all right, we're off to a good start here. And Jasmine even takes full accountability. I'm not going to blame it on the alcohol. I shouldn't have came out you like that. That's nice. Brittany can blame it on the alcohol. I won't.

Brittany blames on the alcohol. Jasmine does not. But, you know, Nia goes into why she's upset. She gets really hurtful. that you guys decided to do this behind my back. Like, that's the whole thing. And that's when Jasmine brings up dark Danny, dark side Danny, and says that she was triggered by the whole thing.

And I'm like, okay, there we go. I can understand that. You were triggered by him getting drunk because of what happened last time. We do, I feel like we need to know, because I know timeline-wise, we keep going back to, what was it? It was Halloween, so it was October. Yeah.

And they're filming in like July. Right. Is there more in here? I don't know. Like, that's something that I think we do need to focus on at some point. I think we will probably get more information. But, like, is there more to Darkside Danny before we start labeling him as all of these things? Like, yes, that had a very...

I mean, we've heard... It's a very uncomfortable night. Yes, he gets blackout. He does certain things. He does stupid shit. He does stupid shit. But, like, how detrimental is that to the rest of the group, to everybody's relationships, to Nia, to all of these things?

Or is it now like, hey, you know, Dark Side Danny, this happened. Ten months ago one time, he apologized. Nothing's happened since then. And we're still talking about it now when cameras. pick back up. That's a problem that I'm like, I don't, I don't want to go down there because I want to see a play out to see, because now Jasmine's talking about like being triggered and she realizes why.

So it's like, okay, let's, you know, find out more about that. And there's no timeline for when she's supposed to be over it. And this is when the apology video comes up again, I'm like, this is a whole scene. So why can we? Because if we see the scene, and like you said, there's no contrition, it's like. And it seems from what we can see, there is contrition. But it's five seconds. But it's still also, it's just Danny.

with Jasmine and Melissa, and I don't really get the sense from Jasmine and Melissa in that five-second scene that it was going super well based on how it was. Which is also interesting. Now we're like reading into context

of a five-second video. So show us the whole thing. Yeah, I agree. And like, Nea brings up the fact that it's like, yeah, it took weeks for us to get better from this entire thing, you know? And like it took weeks for me to get through it.

We went to a therapist, we went to group therapy, went to marriage counseling. It's like, this was a much bigger deal then maybe you guys understood and maybe that's the shortcoming of Danny and Nia where it's like, all right, we'll tell us that.

If you guys went through all of this to fix this situation for Danny to address the fact that he really fucked up, relay that info so they know that this was not, because maybe that's part of it. Jasmine thinks that this was kind of brushed and she's upset that it wasn't addressed. And I would feel some type of way about that too.

So that's where they fell short and that you can definitely be like, all right, this is part of the show. Like, why the fuck didn't you tell us that you guys were going to marriage counseling? Why didn't you tell us that you guys worked through this whole thing. But that's when Michelle jumps in with her one line of

the night, and she goes, well, you pretend that everything's perfect. It's like, all right, here we go. This seems to be the only thing we can throw with these two, so let's get into this. And she brings up her background. She was homeless as a kid. Nobody knew this story. Her and her mom went from shelters to parks, to backyards, to campsites, getting kicked

out of places. She slept in a car as an adult. She had a job, but she would sleep in the parking lot. And so, like, all of these things kind of shaped who she is. And she realized through therapy, like, this can either destroy you or this can make you stronger. And her way of addressing it is by being super positive all the time. That's what she wants to bring to the table. Because if she doesn't, it's the exact opposite from all the negative shit she's gone through.

Makes total sense. That's why she acts this way. That's why she doesn't address certain things. That's why she pretends like it's okay until it's time to address certain things. Everyone seems. Everything makes total sense. And everyone seems to understand. They're like, okay.

That makes sense to me. All right. Right. Like, understood. Didn't get a weird one-off comment where it's like, you should have shared that on-camera before. No. It was just like everyone takes it pretty well. Honestly, and this would be a shame, because I like Nia a lot, obviously.

You know, Danny. Danny, I could take her leave at this point anyway. But I like Nia a lot. You too. I'm going to throw the word authentic out there. She seems authentically very nice. They shouldn't be on the show. I don't think so.

The way this show is going, they're going to have to leave. Yeah, it just doesn't seem to fit. Because, again, they're too normal. And if you want them to fight on camera, they're not going to. No. They're going to go home and they're going to argue and they're going to figure it out. They're going to go to therapy and they're not going to say, hey, guys, we went to therapy last night. How'd that go?

They're not going to have some crackpot therapist on the valley. Not some life coach. They're going to go to a legitimate therapist, a legitimate marriage counselor to get through all of the things they're going through with four kids now and moving and all of this stuff. So they're going to go live a normal life. They need to be off the show. I agree. but in this moment is when the tequila in the closet thing comes up. Now, there is a place for this where Janet can say,

hey, I saw this, it made me uncomfortable. Give me that info. Doubling down and saying, if you're concerned about his drinking, you can talk to us about it. I was in a relationship with an addict and an alcoholic. It's like, okay, time out. Because now you're labeling, which is a very dangerous thing to do. Can we agree that Danny's relationship with alcohol might be a little questionable?

Sure. Should it be addressed? Absolutely. Yeah. I think that's fair to say. It could easily also be he's tired. He worked all day. He's got four kids.

He doesn't get to cut loose that much. And he made a bad decision to drink a little bit of tequila in a secret way. And it could be as simple as that. We've seen real problems on these shows and you guys have been around real problems from VPR. Is this something that needs as much attention as Jack's doing Coke every day? Probably not. That's my biggest problem is, because Nia obviously gets defensive and she's like, that's a pretty big implication.

By doing this, Janet, by bringing this up in this moment on this show and saying alcoholic and drug addict, you're immediately drawing comparisons to Jacks Taylor. Yep. Danny is not Jacks Taylor. Nope. Not by a long shot. So by you doing this, you're putting that out there that they're on the same level. What you're also doing is labeling him as an addict or alcoholic.

when you don't really know the situation very well, you can look from afar and say these things are concerning. Or be a good friend and say, hey, I saw him doing this in the closet, made me a little uncomfortable. Yeah, period. Something like, hey, I saw him doing this in the closet. I didn't think that you knew about it.

I wanted to make sure. And I wanted to make sure that you knew, because we've seen Danny drunk before. Given his history. We didn't want things to get weird. Sure. He ended up falling asleep and ended up not bothering anybody. Fine.

But that's not always going to happen. Yep. If they kept it there, fine. You don't go talking about all of this. And by the way, as we all saw, and probably most people out there saw on the stupid six minutes for next week's episode, Janet outs Nia for being at Al-Anon. Yeah. Which we don't know, Nia hasn't confirmed if she did or not. But you can't do that.

What's the Anon stand for? Anonymous. Yeah. And she goes to her confessional in that moment in the beginning of this episode, talking about Danny's drinking, talking about how, you know, I thought that she went to Alon. So I figured she would understand how this goes. Not your place. fucking say that. Absolutely. And by the way, Bravo airs that in their stupid six

minute preview, which by the way, let's just wait a week to watch the fucking episode. Don't get me started on that shit. And then when they go and air the episode last night and this morning on Peacock, they scrubbed that. Which is such, it's such bullshit that they did that. I can't believe they did that. For Janet to out her for going,

it completely negates the purpose of going to an Al-Anon meeting, which means also she is aware of what's going on with Danny, if that is true. and she doesn't need Janet to then be the end-all be-all of who is and who is not an alcoholic. Even for Danny, it could have been for somebody in her family, too. Exactly, we don't know. We don't know what she's going there for.

It's not your place to out. Not your fucking business. By the way, Bravo's then complicit by releasing that fucking tape. 100%. And like the whole thing about and why labels are so dangerous when it comes to recovery, let's say Danny is, okay? I'm not saying he is or is not. I don't have enough information on it.

Let's say he is, and now he hears this. What you will do to an addict or alcoholic by outing them like this is send them in a spiral in which they fucking do a lot of damage to themselves, people around them, they do a lot of drugs, they drink. It's a really dangerous thing to do. So all of these idiots that are sitting there acting like because they've known somebody that's gone through this, that they're suddenly experts on the topic, is dangerous if Danny actually has a problem. And they don't think that through because this is an I gotcha moment at Nia, where we finally broke down the perfect marriage, yay us, it's like, no, you might be doing irreparable damage to both Danny, Nia, their relationship, their marriage, their children, just by saying some off-based shit like this that you don't really know about.

I'm sorry that you dated an addict and alcoholic and you had to go through certain things. That doesn't make you the expert to talk about whether or not Danny has a problem. And the fact that they did it so haphazardly, it was a fucking joke. Wow, we got to such a great place. I didn't expect Nia to talk about all of this. Janet then raises his hand. I had something to say that I thought about... I thought about this on the ride over.

I've been rehearsing. Do you guys mind if I just go ahead and do it? Let me practice my line one more time. It was so off base. It was so off base after hearing that heartbreaking story to not look at her and go, that makes sense. You address the problem. The problem, whatever reason that Brittany had,

was that she's not sharing enough. That was the problem. Here's why. Yep. Okay. We talked about Danny's drinking. It seems like they've gone to therapy and discussed it. She's more than aware of the whole Jasmine situation.

They've addressed that. We can talk about that more if it makes you comfortable. Fine. Great. This has nothing to do with any of that. Janet just wanted to speak up and throw a wrench in there just to stir the pot. Because she's upset that they're happy. Yeah, she's a piece of shit.

And she's upset that Danny and Nia have a good marriage. And she's pissed off about that and wants to throw a wrench into the whole thing. And even in a confessional. Like, before she gets to the confessionals, It feels like he's hiding something, and that's a problem. It's like, all right, dude. And then her confession, God forbid, I compare a difficult time in my life to your perfect fucking husband.

Yes, yes, because what you did was date a problematic drinker and drug addict, okay? What you just did is draw a comparison to that dude, whom you have a really bad history with to the point that you're bringing it up now. And then you compared that guy to Danny, a father of three who's married to Nia, who's very defensive of her husband who has a checkered past and needs to check on his alcohol relationship, but you're trying to paint him in the

light of a Jack's Taylor. That's a fucking insane leap to make because you saw him drinking tequila in a closet. By the way, who throws stones? Now we're going to start questioning things. Who's got the perfect husband on the cast? Jason looks pretty perfect. Jason's starting to look pretty sketchy now

because of all of this shit. When you're pointing fingers left and right, you've got to point fingers at yourself too and see what the fuck is up. But Doty is like, all right, let's Pinky Promise. We're only going to go to people with their issues. We're not going to talk behind each other's back. Pinky Promise, Doty says it herself. I'm not very confident about this one.

But Nia doesn't feel like Janet's a friend at all. She's like, all we've worked through everything that I've done to address this, I feel like it's now being used against me. I was like, that's the perfect way to put it. That's the perfect way to put it. And the minute, the minute that they leave, Jasmine still has an issue. And she kind of figures out here, like maybe I'm still. triggered by this thing. I'm like, that's okay.

What's not okay is you guys just made this stupid pact with your pinkies to not talk shit. And the minute she walks out, you're talking shit. And now you're an expert again. I know signs. Like, are you kidding me? I know signs. Like, I've been in this situation before. And she's still

being defensive. And then Doty points out, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We shouldn't be doing. She just poured her heart out. We shouldn't be calling somebody an alcoholic. That's pretty problematic. And she's like, I'm not calling me an alcoholic. I was like, you just did. You are. You literally just did. You said that you can spot it from a mile away. It's entirely

disingenuous when you start off the conversation by saying, I'm sorry, I get so uncomfortable when people cry. Yeah, when they cry and I'm not buying it. And it's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? I don't know. I just don't understand. And like, they must, I think they're all just jealous of Nia, to be honest. I think they think that she is

the perfect housewife and she has all these kids and she's beautiful and there's all these things going on and there's no problems. She's very nice to everybody. And they're like, we got to knock her down a couple of pegs. It's what it feels like. They're, I just don't understand how anybody could hear that story and then still have animosity towards her.

I don't go. In this moment, like, save it. It's garbage people. It just makes no fucking sense. They're just garbage people. Jasmine sat there and said, you know what? Something just clicked. I feel like that's why I'm triggered about this.

I need to have a conversation with Danny, which he says, but she kind of sandwiches it with a lot of other shit. That he's an alcoholic. It's completely unnecessary. Leave it at that. Then it's like, okay, that kind of makes sense. And I agree with you. I think even Doty would look across the table.

It won't be like, yeah, we talked about that the other day. You and Danny should have a conversation again. If you feel like it's still not good, we should all sit down, you know, invite whoever you want to invite. Not these two losers over here. But, you know, you and I and Melissa and Danny and Nia, we can all sit down. Michelle can even come. Yeah, and air it out. She's not even talking right now.

She only said one word the entire time. One word. Yeah. So she can come too. Who cares? Yeah. Then you guys can figure it out. And whether you leave that conversation okay with Danny or not, it's entirely up to you.

And that's fine. But it's just the way that they went about it was very strange to me. Calling somebody an alcoholic is just not the way to go about things, especially on TV in this manner, especially when the other person involved with this show that is an alcoholic and an addict is Jack's Taylor. So again, people are going to draw comparisons to him because that's the closest example of what you just described. But it was, I mean, just brutal. And Danny goes back or sorry, Nia goes back and talks to Danny and like debriefs about the whole thing and says Janet called you an alcoholic. and Danny's upset about the whole thing, brings up the tequila thing,

which, again, yeah, some red flags. Yep. They need to figure that part out. But apparently he did, he told her about the tequila. So it's like, all right, well, that kind of softens the blow a little. Yeah.

Like, why Janet needs to be involved past, that made me feel kind of weird, is beyond me. Why she feels I need to go home to Jason and talk about this drinking and saying it's worth questioning his relationship with alcohol. Yeah.

Dude, great. That's a great realization. That's the question. Hey, maybe he does have an issue. Maybe we should talk to Nia. Gently. Fine. That time has passed, by the way.

That's way gone. You guys sitting down and trying to have like a heartfelt conversation with Danny about all of this. Gone. He's heard about the whole thing. He knows what has happened. He's not going to take that information well. Whether he's an addict or not, which again, we can't say. But if he is or isn't, he's not going to take Jason sitting down with him after what Janet said.

No. That Nia just told him that. Jana just said. Who would take Jason seriously anyway? Yeah. Like, and the other part of it's like, if you really truly cared about Nia or Danny, and if you really truly were concerned about him having a problem, you would have gone to Nia and Danny as a friend before you went and talked shit to the entire cast.

Like nine months ago, you would have done it. Right. And you should have been having these conversations in October. Why weren't these conversations happening in October? There was no cameras. Exactly. It's not part of the show. Exactly.

We got to wait. he really gave a fuck, you would go to them and say, hey, I'm concerned about Danny's drinking. And that's a valid conversation to have given his history. Janet, Janet, watch VPR.

She knows. It's brutal. It's how it works. It's fucking brutal. But we get scenes from next week, and it's like, you better make sure that your side of the street is fucking clean if you're going to throw these rocks.

Because, hey, there's one thing about the funniest thing is when I said that Doty's not a liar in the first episode. Everyone's like, she lied about cheating with Jacks. It's like, yeah, I know.

But when she has brought up any kind of scandal or accuse somebody of cheating or accused somebody of having a girlfriend on the side, it has rung true every single time. So when Doty says, Jason, why don't you wear your wedding ring when you go out, that to me is like he did something. Yep. He fucked up. And now, Janet, because of how you handle things, that's going to come to light. Yep. And it's going to be bad. And rightfully so.

But, yeah, I mean, all in all... By the way, Doty and Janet still really haven't come back together. So, is sure you want to poke that bear? I don't... No, that's the other thing, too. Just because Doty's been dormant this season, don't forget that she is still Kristen Doty. And she wrote the book on this game.

So I think Janet has... She's a little too big for her britches. She thinks she's hot shit, and she's about to get checked, I believe. Yeah. But let's get to some... questions. First up here from Christine D. Philippus, is production ruining

the show or Janet, Jasmine, and Britt miserable and projecting? Yep. Yep. All the above. The answer to that is yes. All of the above. From Diana and Jerry. Is everybody okay? This episode made me feel like I was losing it. No, we're not. Neither are the people in the show.

Yeah, we are not okay. It was such a staunch difference and like got just fucking complete 180 on the season. From Jacqueline, Michelle Cress, do you think Brittany was projecting way too much on Nia? Yes. This is the type of, I've gone through all of this,

and I'm upset that other people aren't going through the same shit. Correct. From Ryan Stomeman, 83. If you weren't a Nia fan, I hope you are now, and we all still hate Janet, right? Question mark. Who hasn't been a Nia fan? I don't know.

I think people probably called her boring. I guess. She's always been, I've always liked her. She's nice. This is funny. From Kendi Lin, is talking shit about their friends, Janet and Jason's foreplay.

Quite possibly. I'm sure it gets Janet going. I think it gets Janet going. I think, I don't know, Jason. Janet, I don't know. We don't know. It's a weird situation. From Nicky Mano 23,

is this all a proxy fight between Kristen and Brittany for number one girl in the group? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't really activated at all. She's about to be because Janet is going to fuck around and find out. Yeah.

We'll do one more in here. This is actually a pretty good one. From Yoga Biggabba. Yo Gabba. Yeah. Yep, yo gabba-gabba. There's an eye in there. Yeah, whatever.

How much of Janet's personal life do we actually know? None. None. She didn't share anything? She didn't share. She just throws, she likes Dave and Busters and Taco Bell. To be fair, I don't think that she was on the train of you need to share more. I think she was just salivating it the more, like, I can call him an alcohol.

Yeah, throw Daniel to the bus. Yeah. I don't know. This show is on a weird track. So fast. It was like, usually we can feel. feel the downtrends coming. We were like jacks is in rehab.

We're going to have a couple of episodes here without them. It's going to be great. Jesse and Michelle looks like it's going to just blow up every week. Nope. Completely wrong. It's such a weird turn, dude. I'm blaming Jermaine. When in doubt, blame Jermaine.

Jeremiah ruins shows. He's the fucking Thanos of Bravo. He snaps his fingers and fuck shows into the ground. I don't know where we go from here. I don't know what to expect next week. The Jason scandal might save the season. Like that has the The legs to do that

Just because, and I don't even give a shit What Jason says about it No We have to hold Janet's feet to the fire That's what I'm saying You have thrown stones for two years now So now it's your turn Like that's the only thing I can think of

But This other shit needs to get resolved Because we can't keep hammering down The same issues week to week Because they're stale The show's stale Sheena and Lala are not the way to fix it If I see Brock

I'm gonna lose my fucking mind I just I'll be there soon. I need this show to get back on track and fucking we called it. We can end it on a good note. What? On the after show, they had Nia and Schwartz sitting together. And Nia was explaining that she just doesn't show that much on the show

because they like they like to keep things behind closed doors if they're getting into an argument. Schwartz goes, well, you mean I was doing it wrong the whole time? Because I used to just do it with doors wide open in front of the cameras. And the problem with Schwartz is what he would do is all of a sudden the mask would slip. And he'd say, like, most cohesive, well-said with high vocabulary sentence out of nowhere. And he's like, where the fuck did that? And they'd be like, oh, just kidding. Ha-ha.

Like, you would let slip that. He's a lot smarter than he lets on. But, yeah, I don't know, dude. That was a bummer. It was a bummer week. Bummer. Bummer app. Hopefully they get back on track with Jermaine's involved for the entire season.

I don't have a whole lot of hope anymore. I really thought that we got through it without him fucking it up. And here we go. And it's the same tropes. The reunion filmed last or two weeks ago, so we might not even be able to talk about all this stuff. That's the other part. Yeah, because they had to do it early, which, you know, obviously understandable because Nia and Doty were expecting. So that makes sense.

But like... Still like my theory better. Jacks. Jacks is going to blow up again. Let's get him sober. Yeah, that's... I just... I don't know.

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