Bros & Shows - There's More to Tell About Janet and Michelle (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: May 16, 2024

What's up Bros? This week on The Valley we're seeing some different sides to the group... Zack is upset about being excluded from the Big Bear trip and meanwhile while the group is venting about it, Simon (Janet's spy) is live texting her a minute to minute update... Janet call's Zack to 'clear the air' but ends up gaslighting Zack instead and acting as though being on the trip is a privilege and he should act as such. Janet is beginning to implant herself as the groups #1 gossiper and pot stirrer... Doute and Luke meet with a couples counselor. Jesse returns from his ayahuasca therapy and seems changed. For about 2 minutes. His true colors show when he gets to Big Bear and play fights Danny and Michelle and then gets pissed off that Danny is upset about it... The bombshell of the episode comes at the end when Jax confronts Michelle about the alleged cheating rumors and she ends up simply confirming them. This show rocks. Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen,

I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one of on the big bear magear what's up dude big bear mcgare over here talking about the big bears today yep yes we are we're going to get in that lake and that's about all I got I was hoping you had more I didn't I don't have more

it's the second episode no you're right you're welcome to episode two of the day and all both of these drop today yeah you get to listen to two episodes congratulations to you you're welcome you see what we do for you we do everything but if you haven't listened to it yet

our van der pump reunion part one recap is out as we said in the episode itself pretty solid reunion not the best not the worst i i'm looking forward to one of these next two parts as i said last episode but this show the valley i was wondering where you go with that i'm you know you're just going to do another van der pub recap no no no just just setting up the scene here this show the valley is great yeah it's way better it's it's a draft difference. Drast? Drastic? Drastic? What the fuck?

What is Drast? What does Drast mean? I don't know. I think it might be a word. I'm not positive. Drast. You got to look it up right now. You got to look it up right now. D-R-A-S-T. All right. Well, if something's drastic, I guess, Drast would be, or am I just being dumb right now? Dress is a word, inherited, and what does it mean? Yeah, inherited. What does it mean?

What does it mean? It's inherited by whom? It just says, like, where it does it. came from. Oh. Oh. The worst or poorest of anything. Well, nope, not that. It's dressed. New word. Anyway, no, it's a huge difference going from VPR to this because we actually look forward to watching this. And again, we do like reunions because we at least get some sort of semblance of answers or resolution or whatever. But this is a show that we look forward to watching every week. And we have two of those on the network right now between this and

Martha's Vineyard. Yes, we do. And I'd got to say, I like Zach Way more than I did in the beginning of the season I'm a Zach fan now So when we start this episode out And my man's crying I'm mad Like you gotta leave Zach

Leave Fred Durst alone Leave Fred Durst alone Honestly I feel like the The Friends of, if you will, have taken a huge step over the last couple of weeks Between him and Jasmine Both have shown up Both have found their own way

They're doing things They're getting involved They're having snarky remarks and the confessionals that we agree with. They've taken a huge step over the last couple of weeks. Firmly agree. And starting out, like I said, Zach's still crying from last week because he's not invited to the baby moon. I'm just going to flat out say it right now. Janet sucks.

Yeah, she sucks. And she sucks as a person and she sucks for this show. You can't alienate people who are on the show from a fucking cast trip. No, especially right out of the gate. Yeah, no. the first cast trip we're taking cast trips are holy yeah you must invite the cast to get the best drama out of it if you have doty there if you have luke there and everyone's stuck in this big bear house two things are going to happen one some shit might pop off probably or two

you're able to like solve this issue amongst the group this is how you move forward with a cast you cannot alienate and expect things to get better but what you're seeing janet's trying to take center stage she's trying to think take center stage and I really don't understand how you're going to be, one, a reality TV rookie and two, trying to take center stage and call the shots while alienating people and not showing up to events. I don't know. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Like, that's not how this works. You need to show out your first season. You need to, one, not look like you're doing too much, which you are already doing. And two, you need to just see how things play out because

this is the best way that you're going to get a taste of reality TV. You can't just actively avoid it just because you want to manipulate everything. Agreed. And this is where you get the first great comment from Jasmine. Why are people not invited to this? One, and two, why is Jacks giving a TED talk on the matter? Yeah. Both very valid concerns.

We agree with you wholeheartedly. Thank you for pointing that out. Doty highlights that this is a new side of Janet that she hasn't seen before. Again, interesting. Now, the cameras are rolling. We're getting a new Janet. Do I believe that this is a new Janet? No. I believe this is who Janet is. I just think that you're getting it

in your face now because she's trying to produce the TV show. But Brittany just says to talk to her, tell Zach, you just need to call her. Zach's confessional just goes to show you that this is who Janet is. He's like, Janet is not a low-key mean girl. She's a high-key mean girl, and she's really good at hiding it, which you could argue is the worst kind of mean-girl. The worst kind of mean person, period. That's not just only women.

It's just people that ride this high horse pretending to be a certain person. Meanwhile, they're behind the scenes, talking shit and moving. moving in shady ways. I despise those kinds of people. Yeah. No, I think she's revving it up for the show a little bit, maybe, but I still go back to that comment that Jason, her husband, made when he said that, yeah, when she got pregnant,

she took a step back for her career, and her new full-time job is gossiping. Yeah. So this has nothing to do with the show. This is just what she wants to do, and she has her two little minions that we'll get to in a second that I fucking despise. I can't stand those little douchebags.

Look, the one wasn't a party to it. He wasn't there. Yeah, but he was a party to it when there is. the room later on the phone, Zach. He doesn't get a pass. Don't get me wrong. But fuck Simon and his stupid, ugly-ass pink crocks. Yep.

What a dick. He's standing there. He's literally standing there. Like, looking at them. Fucking live texting trying to hear. That's insane. And don't do it under the guise of, well, I was just trying to text Janet and let her know what was going on because she texted me.

No, you're not giving her a temperature reading, as Janet says. You're standing over there trying to eavesdrop to figure out exactly what they're saying so that you can then regurgitate it. to Janet, I just fucking hate it. Just get off the show. Like, you are the thirstiest dudes I've ever seen on a Bravo show, just sitting over there with all your little actions in the corner, like, yeah, yeah, hang up on them, hang up on them.

Don't, fuck you. Get off the show. They were trying out without being asked to try out. Yeah, no. You're a party to, okay? You're a party to, Janet. You're not getting paid for this show. What the fuck are you doing?

It's the Natalie thing from Martha's Vineyard. If you're not under contract, do not drive the storyline. It's annoying, you're doing too much, you're thirsty as fuck. Simon's a dickhead, flat out, okay? And fuck your crocs, buddy. All right. I did not care for him. Yeah, no, I hated them.

But we get Jesse returning from his ayahuasca trip out in the desert. In this moment, he seems like a changed man. You could argue that he may still be under the influence a little bit. I thought he was. Probably was. Comes in very zen. Oh, dude, he had the fucking bull hat on, too. Eonon.

Oh, yeah. comes in. He's like, he goes through pretty much the most stereotypical post-trip discussion ever. He's like, it was super calm. I was very aware. Everything was energy and I died. I died. And you know what? I think it was an ego death. Meanwhile, Michelle is yawning. Does not care about this. Didn't care that she went on this retreat to begin with. She is so checked out of this marriage already that I'm actually starting to feel bad for Jesse. I agree. Jesse's an asshole. We have made that very. clear. But Jesse's trying. Meanwhile, Michelle is doing some very shady shit that she deserves to be called out for that I will save for the end. We already know what it is. Yeah, but I told you,

they weren't going to show the ayahuasca trip on camera. I know, I'm bummed. I know. I really wanted to see at least like a glimpse of it. Is it like an Aaron Rogers situation where he's lost to be? He's like in a yurt in the desert. Well, but Aaron Rogers was in a blacked out, hut where you couldn't see anything. That's just one of Howard Rogers' weird-ass trips. I know. Yeah. For three days, no sight on drugs.

Yeah. That has to be horrifying. Yeah. Didn't work out too well for him last year, so... It doesn't look like it worked out too well for Jesse right now either. No, it's... Oh. Well, we move on.

We get Janet and motherfucking Simon. I don't even know what the other friend's name is. I didn't care to write it down because I don't like these guys. I don't want them on the fucking show. but they're talking about Kristen's event and she's like, you know, I'm nosy so I texted Simon at 5 o'clock which I'm sure she did.

She's like, why haven't I heard from you yet? The event was 3 to 6 and I didn't hear anything so I texted him at 5 o'clock. Don't. Like you're not invited and she's like, or Simon says, you know, both Kristen and Zach cried and she goes, I can get Zach being upset

then fucking invite him. Yeah. If you know he's going to be upset and you're not shocked that he was upset at this news, why would you not invite him? this is where I'm like, all right, you're doing too much as a newbie. As a newcomer to reality TV, you should not be dictating who's coming on these trips.

Which is also being nice, too. We could actually say that this is who you are as a person and go after your personality, but we're going to say that you're not a good newbie. No. Because this whole fucking scene with the two of them sitting over there and like, all right, yeah, Kristen, why would she even think that she's going to be invited? Okay, fine. In a normal context, sure.

But this is a TV show you have to invite people on a cast trip. I'm not going to stop beating that dead horse because we need that drama there. Otherwise, and look, there's still going to be drama there because we watched it a little bit later. But I don't really want to watch Kristen and Luke go through a little relationship advice with some other guy. I'd rather than be on the trip. I would rather than be on the trip. Be on the trip and either figure it out or don't. That's how TV works.

That's how these shows work. You don't get to be Queen Bee and tell people what they can and can't do. Not on a TV show. You call Zach, and thank God, Zach did not grovel. Not at all. She wanted him to grovel so badly. she's inter-confessional she's talking to her little minions over there she's like i just you know it's just weird energy why would he come after me because you're an asshole period and i'm so happy that

zach didn't say yeah i just i'm really hurt that i wasn't invited i don't understand what it is but i'd really love to be there for you if he did that i would have been like i get it but like don't do that don't grovel and he doesn't have to grovel and he starts it out with you know i think it's pretty weird that i wasn't invited on a friend trip and she's like first of all it's a Baby Moon, not a friend. Try horse. And then I love that he called out Simon. He's like, your little friend in his pink boots is over here

live tweeting the whole thing to you. And she goes the gaslight route. I was like, wow, you really do suck. She's like, Zach, you're coming in pretty aggressive for somebody who wants an invite. Yeah. Not the right attitude. You seem kind of entitled to this invite. It's like, what's your

fucking problem, dude? Like, why are you being so mean to Zach who you guys were trying? You're not inviting Zach because he helped out Kristen who you don't like that's your problem and you're big and you're acting like you're the right one well she's saying that Kristen's not invited because janet was excluded from the jacob may james may sorry james may event you started it you started this whole disinvite thing with the the hobachi there or tepaniaki whichever one under normal circumstances i get it maybe you go on for a couple of months of not inviting

people to different things that you're doing and then at some point you guys have to like reconvene and talk about it to see if you want to be friends fine do whatever the fuck you one in that context. This is a TV show. You don't do that. You figure it out. One way or the other, it either blows up or you solve it.

I'm also pissed at the producers here because you have to do it. You just have to tell Janet, yeah, she has to go. Or you tell Doty, you're going anyway. I think my biggest qualm, honestly, you are here on this show because of Doty. Yeah. So if you're inviting Jacks, too,

who's doing the same shit just not as loud and in your face, then you should invite Doty. Well, Jax also keeps saying throughout this episode that Doty let slip about the text thing. We found out last week, that's not true. So I'm so confused because other people know. To Jax, back to Doty, back to Brittany. Like, it's just the fucking, it's hell's triangle. It's the worst blunt rotation of all time.

We get a quick scene with Kristen and Luke, and she's, you know, where are my friends? Where are all my friends gone? Granted, you know, you haven't been the coolest friends. to them up until this point. So you shouldn't be shocked that there's some pushback. I agree you should have been invited because your beef was not directly with Janet. Janet seems to be the kind of person

that when there is drama, she's going to jump on somebody's team so that she can keep pushing the narrative. That's what she did. She saw Jesse and Michelle getting dragged by Doty. She climbed aboard that train and now she's got a vendetta against Doty, which led to the non-invite to the dinner, which led to the non-invite to James May, which led to the non-invite to

Big Bear. Again, you started that. Not Dode. again, when they were at the James May event, everybody there, minus four people. And by the way, Jason could give a shit if Doty's there or not. Yeah. He doesn't care. Nope. So three of the four people not there are the only ones that don't want Doty there.

The rest of the group does, and the rest of the group wants Zach there. Zach had no reason to not be invited. And I will stand up for him and his helmet until the end of time now. You have to. I got his back. Yep. Because it's bullshit. But we get this.

This is a pro Zach podcast. Damn right it is. But we get the- Prozac. You fucking moron Well, we get the trip to Big Bear And When they get there

Jesse's got a booze bag Yeah With coffee, he's got everything That you're going to need for the weekend Sure They made fun of it Didn't hate it No, I don't hate it either

I really didn't Because he's right when he said I mean the Bordeaux comment Was fucking stupid You don't have to take it to the class you're like But you're right To say that the house is stocked Yeah, that's a Capri comment

Was that that's exactly The Chateaumarmat comment. That's exactly what that was. Does he really want to live near the Chateau anymore, though? He might see Tarantino with his lady. I don't know. Yikes. I don't know. Sipping coffee, quote, unquote. That's what they're calling it these days, but... Hit pause on whatever you're listening to, and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it at Best Western.

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Okay, don't be silly, you're smart, you're driven, you're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks, it's never just coffee. You're seeing a different side to Jesse a little bit where he's kind of all over, Michelle. He's trying to be lovey-dovey with her, and you can tell, like, she's not even remotely. This is our lovey-dovey, like sex trip, like blah, blah, blah, like reconnecting.

And she's, like, cringing as she's touching her as he's touching her. So I don't think it's going to go well. But they all go their separate ways. We get the girls on the boat. We get the dudes on the beach, is what I'm calling it. I don't know what you call it a lake beach. Lakefront? It's still a beach, I think.

I think so, too, right? A beach is just any sand next to a body water. What about a rock beach? Because there's those two. What about a rock lobster? I don't think that's pertinent here. If I sing the song, if that's trying to do. I was trying to get you to sing the song, but I almost did, but I didn't want to give it to you.

I felt what you were trying to do. Didn't feel like it. Is that where a rock lobster comes from? Rock beach? No. Rock lobster? No. I'm curious.

I think a rock lobster is. a species of lobster that was turned into a rock and roll song like he's a rock lobster i'm not familiar with that song can you sing it nope no no you can watch a family guy episode and hear it uh but you get the girls on the boat and janet starts to discuss the events that have transpired over the past few days and i love that jasmine calls her out because janet starts out with well simon said and she goes oh you mean your spy then she reenacts the whole scene and pretty spot on i might Dad. He's just standing there, like, live tweeting, live texting you, blah, blah, blah. She's like, well, I was being nosy. We know.

We know. That's all you ever are is nosy. And she goes, I don't think Zach should expect to be invited. Please indulge me because I don't understand why. And she starts to talk about how they haven't been that close. She got a weird feeling when he was talking about the comment, the Republican racist comment. We're back to that again because Doty called Zach out in front of everybody. all this says to me is Janet said some shit.

Janet absolutely said some shit. She's at the very least involved and she definitely said some shit. And by the way, did we not get that scene where Kristen and Luke are talking about this and Janet is lurking and smirking? Yes. Did we see that? I didn't.

I don't think I saw that. I think that this was like an extra scene added in there. Oh. Oh, they do that though sometimes. I know. And I really appreciated it because it was a camera panning from Luke from Luke, from Zach and Doty talking about the

comment about her throwing Zach under the bus for the racist Republican thing. Janet was standing right there and smiling. I missed that. I must have been writing something down. Yeah, no. They panned across after that whole dinner and Janet's overhearing what they're talking about and smiling about it. You're involved in this.

That's at the end of the day. It might be a whisper down the lane. I don't know what the hell's going on, but you're still involved in this. So the fact that you were brought up in that conversation is true. so I don't know what you're so pissed off about I don't either all you he called you out yeah she called you out that's all that happened not only that but you're talking to jasmine you're talking to jacks you're talking to fucking anybody that's going to give you any piece of gossip information we haven't

seen what you're going to do with that gossip yet we just keep getting montages of you gossiping i think you're just jealous that dody and jacks do know the gossip and they're telling everybody and they're getting the cameras on them i think you're right and jasmine says you know God, I bet you she's pissed off at the end of this episode, too, because Jacks is the one talking to Michelle. Oh, for sure. Oh, my God. She wants to be that person so bad. Yeah, I bet she did, and now she missed her opportunity.

On her baby moon. Yeah, on her, it's not a friend trip, but Jasmine points out, like, you're in a good place with Zach. So by not inviting him here, you are taking a shot at him because that's saying that, while you are working through it, you're still not that close. and if you talk to Zach, he is under the guys that things are going pretty well. So this is a huge shot to him, an unnecessary one. It's not like you're doing couple activities. He could have been on the beach with the boys, or he could have been on the boat with the girls.

He gets along with both parties, so he could have done either. You're drinking at a house in Big Bear. That's what you're doing. This isn't some big sentimental trip. If it was framed that way, okay, fine. And if you were actually a nice person, you would have called Zach a week before and said, hey, we're doing this trip. It's all couples. It is not personal at all. Which, by the way, a baby moon is supposed to just be the couple that's having them.

Yeah, so you're setting your own rules now. Maybe you have a friend there. I don't know what you usually do. I'm not very engulfed in baby moon culture, but I imagine it's probably just two people going on a little trip. That's what a baby moon is. So the only reason that these couples are here is because of the TV show, which brings me to my next point, which I'm still beating the dead horse. It's a fucking TV show. Just invite everybody. I agree. But as Jasmine's trying to get her point across, Janet, you're going to let me talk or no? Like, whoa.

Yeah, now you're snapping. Whoa. Yeah, now. That was unnecessary. And Jasmine's also not even being mean. She's just bringing up valid points. And I think that's pissing you off because you know she's right. And in the back of your head, you're like, I should have disinvited Jasmine, too.

Yeah, Jasmine is no longer coming up. It's a couple trip, right? Thank you. Jasmine's girlfriend's out there. No, she's not. Just Jasmine. Yeah, dude. Uh-huh.

Brutal. But we get to the dudes and they're talking about the allegations against Michelle. allegedly texting and hanging out with another dude, somebody we don't know. Someone else. Could be. Could be a movie star. Could be a movie star. It's just a celebrity.

Tell you who it's not Leonardo DiCaprio. No, it's not Leo. Nope. She is not 25 or under. Oh, good point. Good point. So it's not Leonardo. That's the only one we can rule out definitively.

Yes. Is it's not Leo. It could be any other celebrity. It could be anyone else. Let's hear your takes. Who do you think it is, audience? but again he leads off with Kristen told me and it's like nope she didn't you told Kristen but whatever that Michelle's texting another dude I love Jason's response why are we being little

bitches about this he's right out there can we just fucking tell him please and it gets to the confessional and this is really interesting that he's married to Janet because Jason is anti-gossip anti-rumors he's like I don't want we've already had this spiral out of control with the rumor mill can we not repeat the same manager just be like residual effect of sitting around and listening to Janet talk about gossip all day. And he's like, I can't deal with it. Janet just keeps bringing up different things. And she's like, I really want to know what's going on over there.

But nobody's going to tell me anything. And then he's sitting on the beach and the guys are just willingly giving up this gossip. And he's like, fucking just tell him. I don't want to do this anymore. Right there. I'm so sick of it. But Jacks keeps reiterating. I know what he's doing.

He's trying to protect himself because Jacks is a veteran in this game. He's like, you know, it's coming out of Doty's mouth. So, you know, who knows? But it's like, but it didn't come out of Doty's mouth. out of your wife's mouth or your mouth. We're not really sure whose mouth it came out of originally. It came out of Michelle's mouth. I'm pretty sure it didn't come out of Doty's mouth right away.

In my brain, from what we've seen, Michelle told Brittany, Brittany told Jax, Jax told Doty, Doty told Brittany, Doty told everybody. Yeah, I think. And Jack's told everybody. And Jack's told everybody. But Doty's the one who said it loudest. Yeah, but at the same time, like, she got to a point

where she was pushed. That's what she does. Like, that's why you got to be careful and Doty knows stuff because if you piss her off, it's going to come out. Yeah.

That's why you don't tell Jacks or anybody close to Jacks, any kind of rumor, because then he just starts going to work. How am I going to drop this the correct way? How am I going to drop this to get the most clicks, get the most views? What are we doing here?

What's my plan? He walked us through his process two episodes ago. Yep. This is the Jack's method. This is what I do. So this is what he's doing right now, and he's also putting it out there that he keeps reiterating that it's Doty doing it

so that he has something to fall back on, well, it's not me, I'm just, don't kill the messenger. That's what's happening. But we get to Kristen and Luke and their premarital counselor that was given to them by Danny and Nia. So if anybody's good at their job,

it's Danny and Nia. Well, it's this guy. It's this guy because of Danny and Nia. Danny and Nia are good at their job and their job is being married to each other. They're great at that job. They're fantastic because we love Danny and Nia.

So this is a guy that I actually trust and this was a productive conversation i thought so i did too he's he's asking them the hard questions that they are not good at talking about and i don't think it's luke's fault and dody admittedly is like i don't like this kind of stuff it's too serious that gives me the ick but they're very valid questions when you're planning on bringing a child and have he talked about finances families where are you living about your support system all of these things are a big big question so i'm curious what they're going to do with this information and and what steps they're going to take after it.

Because their relationship is very intriguing to me. I'm not sure why. But it's just interesting to watch. It's definitely interesting to watch because they don't talk about anything. And when they go to their own confessionals, they are saying two very different things. Yeah. Luke is saying that he will never live in Los Angeles.

And, yeah, maybe I'll be here for the time being, but I can't be here long term. I can't be happy. I can't even fish. What am I supposed to do? Doty's over there saying, well, yeah, I'll be able to get him to live in Los Angeles. Like, no, you guys are saying two different things and not talking to each other,

you're telling us more the audience than you're telling each other. That's the first time we've heard her say, like, maybe I don't need to live in L.A. for my entire life. So maybe that's... Maybe it's not good for your health. Maybe that's an inch.

A lot going on. Maybe there's a little bit more wiggle room to have that conversation. I don't know. We'll see how it shakes out. But we get to Big Bear Beach, and everybody's out there. Triple B.

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That is 1,000% true. Awesome. I didn't go to culinary school. I watched countless episodes of guys grocery games. Good for you. I know. Yeah. So thanks, Guy.

Thanks, Guy. Hey, what a guy. Fiatty. That guy actually is your guy, pal. That is my guy, pal. Thanks, guy. But we get a weird moment of, like, Jesse and Michelle play fighting. I think that there was some actual animosity there where they're like,

ha, ha, er. Like, ha, ra. I kind of want to punch you. I'm not going to. I think Jesse's willing to have animosity towards anybody on the cast at this point. Yeah, he's got, like, tequila rage at the moment. He's jumping into Danny and, like, he put Danny in, like, a towel chokehold. Fuck was that, yeah.

I don't know. He kept fucking with Danny, and, like, look, there's dudes that do that. You know, the wrestle guys, we all know them. They're kind of annoying, especially-anoying as hell. Yeah, they get drunk and they fucking put you in a headlock. You're like, okay, stop. So I totally get why Danny was frustrated with it. But, Jack's.

The way he talks to his wife, dude, is just like, it's worse than Brock because it's more, there's a more condescending tone to it. Yeah. She's playing a video of Cruise at Swimming Class. He's crying. Your kid's crying on the phone. She's playing it, watching it. It's not that big of a deal. And she's like, oh, it's so sad that that's my son, that's your son.

And Jack's is like, can you just turn it off? Turn it off. We're on vacation. I don't want to even hear about the kids. Yeah, bro. What do you do it? And she, again, she's just like, you know, I'm not allowed to have any feelings.

I can't feel anything. It's just every scene. Every scene, honestly, every individual scene that we see with the two of them, he is so annoyed at everything that she does. Yeah, it's tough to watch. And now it's spilling over to the group settings where he's just completely condescending

towards everything that she's doing in the group, and it's starting to bleed over to everybody else looking like, what the fuck is going on here? Hasman has her confessional. She's like, what the fuck is this? It's terrible to watch for us, the viewer. it's terrible to watch when you're, like, in real time. What is this dude saying to his wife?

Why is he putting her down like that? Like, it's fucking disgusting. Yeah, Jasmine goes on to say, like, if my girl ever said that shit to me, which she never would, by the way, but if she ever talked to- Respect for each other. Correct. If she ever talked to me like that, it'd be a big fucking problem. And it should be.

Like, it's not okay. And that's what's sad is it's like Britney's in a place where it's just like, because we see in the car on the ride home, she's like, you know, are you good, Britney? She's like, yeah, you know, it's every day. Like, it's just something I got to deal with. it's just jacks being jacks and like it's fine i move on i don't think about it too much like that's not healthy you don't have to live like that and i'm glad that they got separated and again regardless of how people may feel about brittany like no one deserves that shit from

that fucking guy yeah with his half beard mustache weird combo because he can't grow facial hair you're not balding your face is balding i don't know why and i guess this is like the drag jacks taylor hour but i can't imagine looking in the mirror with that facial facial hair setup and being like yep that's it yep nailed it absolutely looks great if he's going for some sort of uh i imagine he's going for some sort of pirate look maybe he wants to be like uh captain jack he wants to be a captain jacks sparrow yeah i was i was actually going to say he wanted to be like a johnny dep like stunt double or something jacks sparrow but president call his bar captain jacks not a bad idea yeah make it pirate themed he's got a huge portrait up on the wall of him and

like some captain morgan thing Yeah, you nailed it. You 100% nailed it. But even on the ride back, Brittany gets fucking car sick and has to, like, throw up outside. She's not drunk. We didn't see her ripping shots on the boat. Didn't see her drinking on the boat. She said she's had zero alcohol.

Even Janet said you're very clearly not drunk. We would know. Yeah. And her response when she gets back in the car is don't tell Jacks, please. He'll get mad. That's awful. That's terrible. You're constantly living in fear of the reality.

action of your shitty husband like that's fucking brutal and on the dude's car ride back Danny's not cool with Jesse doing all that shit on the beach and he doesn't have to be like that's fucking annoying and had Jesse been like I'm sorry dude like I'm drunk just trying to fuck around like that's my bad would have been squashed yep he keeps trying to and I didn't think it was that big of a deal but clearly Danny's upset about it so just acknowledge it and move the fuck on he doesn't he just fucking keeps escalating it and being a dick about it so he does that And then he goes to his confessional where he's not drunk, and he doubles down. He's like, he's just way too sentimental.

Yeah. Way too sentimental. Like, is that what he said? Sensitive. Sensitive. Sensitive. Yeah. Way too sensitive.

Danny's a little too sensitive. Most sensitive guy. Danny's the most sensitive guy that I know. It's like, no, you're just fucking annoying and you're a prick. Yeah, don't jump into people and fake fight people. It's just not fun, right? You're in your 40s, guys. Stop.

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And that is Jack's very, very shyly. I don't want to say this. I really don't want to say this. Like, I can't, I just, oh, man, but I have to get this out. Very direct, but careful. I don't know what he was going for with that. He's just trying to set it up so that he doesn't get fucked.

Like, that's how he always does it. And he goes and he says, look, Kristen told me, No, she didn't. But Kristen told me, also, he's wearing his number one guy in the group sweatswear. Everyone's advertising these days. Everybody's advertising. I don't love it. I don't love it either.

I don't love it. Nope. No, do that on your own time, not my time. When you're on TV, that's my time. That's my time. That's my time. But he says to her, look, when Kristen gets to the bottom of the barrel, she wants to ruin lives. He's putting everything on her.

These two are friends. Yep. They have been friends for years, knowing that they do this shit to each other. that in itself needs to be studied and that's why I think they're in love with each other And you always look at me like I'm crazy When I say Jackson's in love with Doty But there's something there

Toxic bond that these two have together That cannot be explained by science I don't know what it is What is it? It's bizarre The new emotion How do you like I need to know How you watch that back How Jacks watches back certain things

And both of them are like That's my friend That's my best deal Well it depends on the timing They might have each other blocked on Instagram or on I message. That's my point, too, though, even when they're blocked. Because Doty said that when we interviewed her. She's like, oh, he blocks me all the time, but we're friends.

I'm like, that's not normal. No, that's weird. I need some kind of documentary. I always get back to documentaries. I need documentaries. It's like a psychologist to just watch endless scenes about Doty and Jax and just try to give us their best idea of what the fuck's going on there. Unless they just go crazy from watching all of those scenes, which is a possibility. I would love to be able to hire, like, a part-time psychologist that we could have watched the shows with us and give them, give their breakdown of it.

Just get, like, the psychology corner with Dr. whoever. With Dr. With Dr. You're going to name the doctor? I was trying to think of a doctor that we've seen on the show. Oh, with Eagle Woman. Oh, yeah. Eagle Woman on the show.

And she could break it down from her stance. That would be great. Jacks drops the news. It's been brought to my attention. You've been texting with this celebrity and maybe. hung out with the celebrity and she's like well i i met this celeb down at the chateau we talked he texted i met him for coffee and he goes a little bit deeper and he's like well it sounds like you were like sending sexy pictures to him this and that and she's like well i was hard stop yep

move on to the next episode now my question to you because from what it seemed like it didn't seem like that sentence was finished do you think she's flat out copying to it or or do you think there's a follow-up sentence where it's like, I was texting, but I didn't send anything bad. Or do you think she's like, No, I think that she did. I think that she sent them. I don't know.

She absolutely sent them. I'm saying, is she going to be? I think the cover-up is that it wasn't, it's not recent, it's not current. It was last year. It was when she was considering moving out. It was when her and Jesse were going through their first rough patch. I think that's what it's going to be.

I think that's going to go that, right? I think maybe the celebrity that she got coffee with is recent, and the cover-ups going to be. you know in my profession selling real estate it makes sense to like have these sort of connections and I'm going to do this what no no I agree I'm saying it's grimy I'm making a face yeah you gave me the face of like we're going to cut that oh no no no oh my god what the no it's just fucking grimy yeah no it is grimy and I think she's going to cover it up that way I think the whole risque picture aspect of it all is going to be a different person and that

was going to be last year now whether that's true I you know I don't believe it because if you're going to tell me that you're doing all these things and you did that before I'm not going to believe you. I'm not going to believe that there's a gap in between the Yeah, no, I'm not going to at all, especially given the fact that we're watching you on screen right now, completely checked out of your marriage and not trying at all with Jesse. And again, you know, Jesse's this too little too late grand gesture.

I'm going to go out in the fucking desert and do ayahuasca, and that's going to save our marriage. That's not how that works either. So you're an asshole as well. They're both assholes. It's just who's the bigger asshole. And we talk about that all the time. We'll find out at the end of the season, by the end of the season,

who the bigger asshole is. No, no. You don't think so? I think we will, but I think for me, it's cut and dry. Look, was he a saint by bouncing and going out? Yeah, if he's not cheating on you. That's my point. Yeah, that's a completely different thing.

That's, it's never, there's never an excuse to get to that point. Right. If you have not had a conversation of where is this going, are we okay? If there's a separation and you go out and date or whatever, okay, at least you have that's something, yeah. But if there was never a conversation, had about where you currently stand with your husband, your spouse, then absolutely not. She's the bigger asshole because until it's over, there's always hope to fix the marriage

because it's a fucking marriage. So if this comes out to be true and there's no Jesse cheating, she's the asshole. Absolutely. For sure. But a riveting episode. Very riveting. And a riveting season. And next week, I feel like you always get that moment in the season where it turns and

everything starts to just jump off every single episode. I feel like we're at that point. I think we're going to start to get the, oh, fuck, moments. And I'm looking forward to that on this show because I think given the fact that Doty and Jax are steering the ship, it's going to be colossal when they drop these bombs. Let's get to some questions. Some questions. Going to start off with Steph Bam Frizzo.

That's fun. Yeah, it is a little fun. Do you think Janet will change her tone if she is brought back next season? No. No, I think... Double down. Yeah, I think she's going to double down. But if we do get a big confrontation at the end of the gear

and not everybody's taking Janet's side because we're starting to see, obviously, Zach is going to be on Doty's side, Jasmine's starting to shift. We don't really know what Danny and Nia are going to do if they decide to get involved at all. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens when she realizes she's not the center of attention and not everybody's on her side. She might try to downplay it a little bit and change a little bit next year. That's what I kind of think's going to happen. I think it's going to depend on, you know, I don't know if she's fully aware that she's trying to go toe-to-to-to with Doty.

Yeah. Doty is reality royalty in a lot of ways. Like, she's a salty vet. Dude, you got to be careful when you, if you aim, if you take a swing at the king or the queen, you best not miss. Let's just say that. Yeah. Not a question, but more of a statement of fact here from Madison's Centofonte. I think Jacks is trying to gaslight, like Brittany.

and others to think that she has a drinking issue, knowing that their marriage is over for custody purposes when they get a divorce. Oh, I think that he's doing that, but not for custody. I don't think it has anything to do with custody. I think he wants out of the marriage and he's trying to paint Brittany like this terrible alcohol.

Yeah, that's all. I don't think it has to do with the kid because I don't think he wants the kid full time. I don't think he wants the kid based off of that video thing. I'm not going to say he doesn't want his kid. I will say I don't think he wants the kid full time. Yeah, no. I'm going to save that one for the end.

Uh, from exactly Janet's friends were trying to be cast on the next season, right? Yeah, they were trying very hard. They failed. Simon stinks. Here's a good question. This is a good discourse. From Schafferah 717, who's the bigger gossip?

Janet or Doty? Janet. I think Janet, like, inherently wants to gossip and wants to know all the information, but it depends on what you mean by that because Doty will blurt it out and she'll use it as some sort of weapon. Yeah. I don't know if Janet will because we haven't seen her do it yet. Like she keeps compiling and compiling and compiling.

She might just want to know what's going on and then talk amongst her friends, her weird fucking minions that we saw. I don't know. I think once you weaponize it, that makes you a bigger gossip. That's fair, but I see, I think... Semantics kind of. It is, but I think that it makes you a bigger gossip when you move in sneakier ways and you try to hide it. Yeah. When you pretend, like, that's the thing.

We know who Doty is. Yep. Doty knows who Doty is. Janet's trying to paint the picture of, I don't want to be involved. Meanwhile, she's texting her spies at the party, having powwows with them on the side,

setting things up, talking to Zach a weird way, which was not, I don't know. I think Janet, dude. At least Doty's up front. I know. From M. Corinne.

Who's the number one guy in the group on the Valley right now? I think Danny. Zach is two. Zach is two. Danny one, Zach, two, Jack's three. Jack's three. I'm going to put Jason up three for now. Jason's not doing it.

He doesn't do enough. Yeah, I guess we'll put Jacks three. Jacks is moving the needle. Number three guy in the group. Get that sweatshirt. That's actually a funny fucking sweatshirt. Wait, actually, we have to do one more. I mean, I don't watch this show, but this is kind of funny.

From FBMS. I don't know what I'm going to. I don't know. Did you know that the twins, I assume Danny and he is twins, are the babies on young Sheldon? I saw that the other day. Yes. I don't watch that show.

I don't either. But, yeah, somebody pointed that out to us. That's pretty fun. And I forgot about it because my brain doesn't work very well. But yeah, that's, you know, showbiz, babies. Yeah. And last one here from CCS underscore PA. When will you be doing jockstrap reviews?

That's Nick. That's my client. Oh, is it really? All right, cool. That you did the doors. Oh, hell yeah. Good doors, Nick. Yeah.

We got doors in our studio now so that we're a little more soundproofed in here. But yeah, Nick, you're probably not. not listening to this, but if you are Martha's Vineyard episode, I'll be wearing a jockstrap. Yep. There we go. Under my shorts. Let me clarify that again. Yes. But I do need to give it. I told Preston, I would give it a fair shake. So I will do just that. That's all I got. You got anything? No. No, I fully accepted that that is no longer my sentence to say. It's a sad day in Steal's world. But hey, it's all about growth. Adapt, overcome, move on. That's what I always say. Good for you. I say that all the time. You've heard me say that. Way to evolve.

I evolve. You evolve. I evolve. I evolve. Bobros are out here. Later. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom.

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