Bros & Shows - Throw Janet Off the Boat! (The Valley Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

What's up Bros? The Valley has corrected course somewhat and is back on the right track. Jax and Janet still need to get the boot, but we've enjoyed the last couple episodes. In this episode, Julia and Guerdy grow further apart. The more Julia tries to explain this thing, the more it looks like Julia is in the wrong. We get introduced to Stefanie Shojae on the PJ with Larsa. Marysol is concerned that Alexia is now lying and hanging out with Todd. Kiki continues to let us into her life more which we love. Lisa confronts the group about talking smack while she was at her dad's funeral. This is a bit of a different season than we're used to, but we are thoroughly enjoying it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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question is janet the most miserable person ever on tv yeah big recency bias guy so yeah have to be recency bias i think just any bias any any any any way you look at it. She is just an unhappy human being. If somebody said that she was the most hated or miserable person on reality TV, I would not like... I'm your co-s and shows. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my Bros. And shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shoot. Mowie Gooter.

Hey. Slid that one in there for the last episode in Maui, huh? Yeah. Why not? Let's do it. We're starting to see why Janet decided to go private on Instagram. Yeah. I think she was getting ahead of it for this episode.

I think that that was a smart move. She's claiming that she's getting like horrible death threats and stuff. And no, that stuff's never okay. And people take this shit way too far because you don't know these people. Why you feel the need to say that is fucking nuts. But that stuff aside, she sucks. she really sucks she is awful her husband is awful there's no reason i'm past the point of she's a good instigator who we have to wait yeah it's no i think we said it maybe early this season

last season whatever once she gets to the point where people start to push back we have to see how she reacts after seeing this episode she doesn't really have any business being on tv no i don't think so either especially when you add into that equation the fan aspect of it all because I knew that was a thing, but then watching Doty, like, actually address it on the screen. The Sheena of it all, you add that into it. I'm like, this is just a disaster. She doesn't need to be on the show. Jason is the biggest pussy ever.

That guy's such a weener. Like, I can't stand them. I can't stand them together. I don't like how they talk to other people. I don't think they add, like, an interesting, fun dynamic to the show. It's like, ooh, Janet's involved. It's like, shit's going to pop off. It's like, ooh, Janet's involved.

We're going to pull things out from four weeks ago that have already been squashed and use that against people to try to smear names because they're jealous and they hate each other. And instead of focusing on their miserable marriage, they're going to make other people miserable. Yeah, we finally had the important episode, which I was actually happy to watch, incredibly happy to watch. And obviously, you know, the end of it took in a very valley way. I kind of liked this episode. I liked the episode because we finally got people piecing together and speaking about. multiple people speaking about what Janet does. Yep.

And to have it put out there verbatim, she's going to go, and this was just about Doty getting engaged. Yep. I don't want it to go through Janet's pipeline. She's going to go ahead and text Jared and then Jared's going to tell somebody else and then all of a sudden it's going to go through. Get Jason, Janet, and Jared, the Jays, out of here. Fuck Jared, by the way. Yeah, that dude's a dork. Is that pink boots guy?

Yep. Yeah, that guy's a fucking worm. He's a worm. He can kick rocks. All the Js need to go. Except for Jesse. I mean, you've wrote it all season. You've wrote it all season.

Well, he had a great watch what happens live last night. Oh, he did? Incredible watch what happens live. And this isn't just... Jeff from you or is that? This is not just the Jesse supporter. He answered everything, like, very well. All right.

Well, that's, you know, what narcissists do, but anywho. He also said that Sheena has no business trying so hard to get on their show. Big facts. Huge. Huge fan of that state. Yeah, that's, that should be printed out and hung up. up on this show in somebody's room. Yep.

Just fuck off, Sheena. Mm-hmm. Like, I'm so sick of it. We don't have to do it every single time we do this show. But, like, the VPR Rejects, just go do your podcast. Yep. And fuck off. Like, it's not fun.

Break your books. Do your podcasts. Yeah, whatever. I won't read it. I won't listen to it. But you guys are out there existing. People seem to. So, like, take the money from advertising on that and leave us alone because the montage, we got a

Shina montage. And I was like, why are we? Why? I'm not watching VP. PR right now. Like, I don't want to see this shit. They bring the show down. And again, we've talked about this for weeks. There's a good show here.

Yeah. Right? And we've gotten, right, we've gotten back on track a little bit. Like, I'm not, I'm not bummed out watching it now. There was a stretch there for probably four or five weeks where this was a chore. Yeah. We're not there anymore. So I'm happy about that. But the negative parts of this show just fucking drag you down. Like, Janet gets on the screen and I,

physically get upset. I'm like, this sucks. Physically? Physically. Did I say physically? Visibly and physically. Together. Boom. We're watching you. Yeah. Physically get upset. You're visic. I was going to say visceral reaction, visibly upset and physically upset. Wow. The trifectly. Yeah, boom. That's a word for you. We've been saying we want a word in the dictionary. I'm bricked up by that.

Hey, no. Hey, look. I like linguistics. What do you want for me? But yeah, I agree. This was a much better. episode it's it's on the right track yeah it's it's doing better not even just if we leave the janet situation out the rest of it was good yes i agree it was enjoyable i even will go as far to say i don't like brittany you know we can have hold space for her if you will for the things that she's going through with jacks don't like her don't think she's a good friend getting called out for it good i like you can stay on the show if you're going to get called out for shit i'm okay with that it's when we went through that four or five episode stretch where janet wasn't getting

getting called out for the things that she was doing. She was able to just manipulate and pull things from behind the scenes. And then we've got Brittany over here, not taking accountability because she's going through something. It's like, all right, I'm getting really tired by this. Oh, I think we're past that. We're past all of that. We've moved on.

Everybody seems you can see the people that really like each other, the people that don't like each other, and it kind of works. Yeah, I agree. And we're in the aftermath of the engagement, obviously, on the boat. And we're at the party. They're all upstairs. and then we're headed downstairs to have some orders of wars. And this scene was confusing as shit to me.

I don't know what the fuck happened in the interim of upstairs to downstairs, but we're getting the whole crew updating about the evening. And we get a Janet update from Michelle. This is going to fucking piss me off because she's not the only one that said this. Brittany says it later. Michelle brings up, it's mean that Janet wasn't invited. Janet was invited. Janet pulled herself out of this thing

using the excuse of I don't want to take away from her night but actually she did want to take away from her night and she didn't go because she wanted support from other people that's what's happening now that's exactly what's happening now I would be fully okay with a fourth wall break right now if they would just say I get that it's a cast trip but you didn't really need to invite Janet knowing what it was do that if that's where your stance is fine I get that

that's completely fine by me because really what it comes down to is the only people that knew what was going on were Luke, Zach, Benji, by proxy, and then, you know, eventually everybody else kind of trickled out. This comes down to them. I don't want to put anything on fucking on Luke. No. To be the one to say, yeah, maybe Janet shouldn't come. That doesn't make any sense. He's not going to. Like, you need to bring her because it's a cast trip. And Danny and Nia even agreed, like, let's just have her there. Whatever. Like, she's going to throw a hissy fit in her room. Let her go throw a hissy fit. Why is it have to be, oh, I feel so

bad for Janet. Why are we feeling bad for Janet? I don't know. She was invited to the dinner. She said no. But now we're taking the right move, by the way. It was under the right guys, but she didn't do that. She's doing it selfishly, which is funny as shit. I'm not funny, ha ha, funny, but funny, shut the fuck up, funny. I don't even, I think this might, it might actually be genuine, and I'm basing this off of what happened after the engagement party. If she truly just wanted sympathy. Maybe it is a little deeper. If she just wanted sympathy, I think she would have been out of her room and, like, mingling with everybody else, bitching about what happened. At the end of the night. Maybe she still wanted sympathy at that point. So I'm not, I'm not going to run that

past her because that could be true to it. I have my whole theory on everything, but Danny and Nia are MIA because they're showering, which they were part of the engagement itself. So I think that it's okay that they take a breather. And apparently that's a massive fucking problem. We get the napping again, joke and look, Jasmine's upset about them not being there for that. Brittany is now going, well, if they're not held accountable, why am I? What are you talking about held accountable? They're showering before this thing because they're on a boat. And let's just be logical.

I thought about this. Oh, how dare you? They, along with Kristen and Luke, were on a boat, a fishing trip boat. Yes. Kristen, very publicly, didn't want to shower. So she wanted to shower now. If I'm going to give you Luke and Doty versus Danny and Nia, Just straight up, you get to shower at the same time and get ready at the same time.

Who's going to come out first? Obviously, Kristen and Luke. Thank you. Like, they're not doing all of these things. Nia was a beauty queen. Danny is a beauty queen in his own right. He's probably doing a bunch of shit over there. He's manscaping.

He's Kelvin Gemstone. Yeah, so, like, it's going to take them longer to come down. And by the way, Aaron also came down well after everybody else. He was taking a nap. Michelle said he was taking a nap. No issue there? No accountability? No.

What is? No, Aaron, because Aaron maybe, he's like, not really part of the group. I don't really know, but... He's fucking, like, hugs Luke from behind. Hey, congratulations. We're so happy for you. Don't speak in the general. Oh, no.

I hate the general we. But Brittany, who we gave not a pass to last episode, we said... He tried really hard to give her a pass. At least she finally said, like, it's not about me. I'm being selfish. In this moment, does the same shit. But so much worse, she's like, she's saying... The accountable thing, like, why am I here?

Because she's butt hurt that she wasn't included on the boat ride. You would have been included on the boat ride if you weren't so far up Janet's ass. That's the problem. Put two and two together. That's what drives me nuts about this cast specifically. The lack of self-awareness is on a whole different level. It's fucking nuts. And she's making it about herself again.

It's not about you. Then Zach finally snaps, which I don't know how he didn't earlier. She's like, what's going on? Like, why are you guys all being? grumpy like she just got engaged just have a fucking hors douging about danny and nia coming down late to the point where they're not being held accountable i want to leave christin's engagement party yes so you're going to penalize her and punish her and luke on the happiest night of their lives so far because you want to be petty because other people are taking you longer to come

down yes stupid i just they're just all terrible franthes they're proof positive they're proof positive It's just a group of horrible people. Yeah, it really is. Like, selfish and self-serving, and it comes out so much in this scene. But Danny and Nia finally arrived. Jasmine makes a comment. And then Aaron shows up by himself. And Luke makes a Jaws joke.

It was a very strange scene. It was a very strange scene. I don't, yeah. I don't really know what to make of it at all. It was just like, what, like, why are everyone, like, why does everyone have a stick up their ass right now. I have no idea. I just have a beer and eat a fucking chip. And clearly, by the way, none of you can be trusted. No. So I know. We are immediately met with, hey, again, and this makes so much more sense, because I know last week, you know, people even had questions when we asked

questions. Why didn't their families know? Well, they did. I'm assuming Luke's family knew. Luke just went to go see his grandmother who's in the hospital or she's on a hospice. I'm sure he talked to the rest of his family. I'm sure he's talking. talk to Kristen's family about what's going on. I would hope. I would hope. We don't know for sure, but I would hope. And they're six hours ahead of time.

Yep. So, of course, they're not going to text them at 10 o'clock local time when it's 4 a.m. over there. Right. They're going to wait until the morning. Correct. Makes sense. And it's not to tell them, oh, my God, Luke surprised me, blah, blah, blah. It's to tell them that they're engaged, that everything went through according to plan.

You think. You would think. I don't know. I'm assuming, because that's how normal people operate. And Luke and Doty, we've seen Kristen for all. a very long time. Right now, she's one of the most normal people in the show. So that's how normal people operate. I'm going to assume that's what

they're thinking. Yeah, and she's worried that Janet's going to blow it. So she's like, look, everyone just fucking chill, relax, let's not. Shoop, she said. I really liked that subtitle. Shoup, baby. My salt and pepper. Yep.

That's a great song. But anyway, Zach Danny and Nia are talking, and Zach points out to them. Look, there's a lot of resentment around here there's a whole lot of resentment brittany's pissed off jasmine's pissed off i don't really get why other than they feel sad that they were left out of this yeah that's all i can i liked this exchange though because i did too we finally get to see i mean danny is well past the point of having it but i think rightfully so but seeing nia just roll her eyes immediately and not get down on the dumps and not

get sad she's kind of yeah she's so checked out from this whole thing i love it i'm so happy that we've gotten to this point because it's taken so many fucking like bumps and scratches to actually get Nia to do this but now she's just completely past it yeah she just rolls her eyes like again I'm dealing with this shit yeah she's just tired of the behind the back shit

now she's worried that Danny's gonna blow it I mean I don't know dude you can only you can only poke yeah it was funny watching them leave and he's like trying he's like Danny stop and he's like okay yeah but like I don't blame him you know what I mean like this juncture he's hit his breaking point a long time ago Nia is now finally

at her breaking point, so I don't blame them for wanting to make little comments here and there. Here's why they were the ones invited on the boat. As they're leaving, Nia is constantly reminding Danny, hey, this is not about you. This is not about you. This is Kristen's day. This is Kristen and Luke's day. Trying to make it about you. They're trying to make you blow it up. Yep. And you know what's going to happen. If you do snap, if you do say something, they'll turn around the next day and said, you've ruined Kristen's engagement party. Even though they were all plotting on ruining it because they're all petty losers. Exactly. Yeah, that said, 100%. A new movie inspired by the provocative real-life story

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I guess they were sharing rooms. I'm not entirely sure, but they're in the living room there. Maybe, I don't know. Who cares? But Janet and Jason are awkwardly in their room, as their friends now are out in the living room and this is where it's confirmation woe is me i didn't get invited to the dinner you did get invited to the dinner you decided not to go to the dinner and now we're just going to stay in our room with the door shut all of our friends are out there now christin and luke aren't out

there that's what i mean hand go out and say there's no reason there's two choices here three really but the third one's not an option for these losers the two choices are go out there garner sympathy and talk shit stay in your room try to garner sympathy hope that somebody comes over and knocks on your door, even though we already saw that Brittany was texting you saying, come out and hang out with us. Three, which is the good person, is to go out and say, oh, my God, how was it? Was it so much fun? And try to be nice.

Yep. And don't talk shit, which they're incapable of doing because they're losers. Yes, 100%. And now they're discussing, should we leave early? Should we leave early? Yes, please, for the love of God, go away. But we get to the next morning. And the only way that somebody wants to wake up after they get engaged is a text.

from Jacks Taylor saying congrats. I assume it was like a free cameo. Probably. Yeah. He forgot to take the filter off of his phone for that tape recorder. Here's my theory on this. Brittany had a lot of excuses. Oh, this

was 100% intentional. The first excuse was, I can't believe he would do that. I told him to keep his mouth shut. That's comical. Crazy. Comical. She then moves a little bit later in the episode two, I can't believe that he did that.

I told him not to do it. Maybe I just word vomited, okay? Maybe stick with that. Your word vomited. Fine. Whatever. You couldn't keep your trap shut because it was going on. Then you get to like a righteous place where you're saying, what, am I not allowed to talk

about this? Like, no. Here's what you did. You were pissed that you didn't know about it. You're still leaning on Jacks, even though you shouldn't be, but there's a whole psychology thing going on there. I'm not going to touch. We've talked about that a lot.

There's a lot going on there. You should be removing yourself from all of those situations. You're not, whatever. But what you did was bitch about it to Jacks because he's the person that's at home right now, the person that'll probably talk shit with you without it getting back to someone else. Yep. Which it's Jack, so it's going to get back to somebody else. She knows that.

So I wouldn't be surprised if a reunion finale episode, we find out where Jacks is now feeling completely vindictive because Brittany's being mean to him, mean to him, that now he's going to go ahead and tell Doty. by the way she did that on purpose she was talking shit 100% that's probably what's going to happen and she deserves to be called out for this because the excuses were horseshit she's trying to tell everybody that like I didn't know like I wasn't trying to it's like you you know who you told and you did that 100% intentionally because your butt hurt you weren't on the boat I love that Luke told Kristen and just block them I know so good so I'm glad you know what just block them I'm glad

she did yeah yeah protect your peace that's what he says like this is our day like let's be happy fuck that guy, like there's no reason to do this. Spend your time now reaching out to family and letting everybody know. Schwartz's response later, did she make a social media post about it yet? I'm not going to do it. Even Schwartz knows. The most

aloof, and we have theories that he's a lot smarter than he lets on. But in most of these social situations, he is completely aloof. Even he knows, yeah, I'm not going to do that. It's just bad etiquette. Bad form. Bad form all around. But Jason and Janet, who I

right in my book as J plus J. Boo. They're talking about the awkward evening the night before. They're making this whole thing about them, which is so fucking funny. And then she's going to give some fake-ass sob story about, I remember when we used to be so close, I want to be down there cheering for her, and this and that, and the other thing.

Timeline is so funny. I remember like two years ago, we were just good friends. What's happened since then? You joined the show and changed your whole personality. A lot of people say her real personality finally came out. She's just, like, holding on for hope that you might get a shot at being on a show so she could do this? Yeah, I guess.

I don't know. Who knows? Her whole thing is that they don't want to intrude, and hopefully our absence was a gift. It would have been if the intention was that. Yeah. The intention was not to avoid distraction, so you removed yourself. The intention was to call attention to yourself because you're not there, and to get sympathy from the group, woe is me. Janet's excluded again.

Here's what would have been a good move. Use the opportunity to. bridge a gap with Kristen, your friends that you miss. It's the easiest one ever. I'm really happy for you. I hope you're not upset that I didn't miss out or that I missed out last night. It didn't seem like the whole thing was a really good call for us. Didn't want it to be awkward on your night. But I am really happy for you. And I hope we can bridge a gap. Bridge forward. And then don't talk shit. Here's the challenge. It's called the don't talk shit challenge. She lost. She lost immediately. She just lost again. Yeah. She actually lost again. Yeah.

She's losing again right now. Yeah. She's talking to Jason or we're talking to Jared. Fuck Jared, dude. Let's get to Brittany and Doty because they sit down and obviously Doty has had her issues with Britney all season. I will give it to Dode. And this, Doty is a different person than she was in the past. And if you think that she's still a piece of shit, not that whatever, whatever your opinion is on her, she has changed. And if you watch throughout this season, all of the allegations being thrown at her, she's not the culprit. We've gotten evidence from multiple people corroborating by saying, Kristen's on at the bottom of this.

This is not the bottom of this. This isn't Kristen either. Yep. So she's not doing anything wrong, but she's still always bearing the brunt of everyone's bullshit. Mm-hmm. And in this moment, she's still fairly calm with Brittany.

And I don't know, I'm assuming it's because they were so close that she doesn't want to just like completely separate from her. So she tries to handle this with with kid gloves. But you're right, too, because like this is part two of why did you tell Jackson? Yeah. And obviously, Brittany has a different answer than what she had before.

Just goes to show you that she's lying and trying to spin it and whatever. every way possible. This was part one of Brittany. The first, we just saw Brittany a reaction on the phone, yeah. This is the first time with Doty though. Yeah, oh no.

The Doty called you on the phone. Okay, I missed that. So yeah, there were two, these are two different excuses. This is the face-to-face. This is the face-to-face reaction about what's going on and why you told Jacks.

This was the, maybe I word vomited. Yeah. Which was different than what you said earlier, which was I told him not to tell anyone. Completely different. Maybe you told him after the fact that's not either here nor there. But I'd love the way

that Kristen prefaces it because it's showing that she's handling her differently, handling her with kid gloves. Britney is going through a lot of stuff. I don't want to feel like I'm attacking you. I don't want to feel like I'm ganging up on you and just dumping, but I did want to talk to you about something else. What the fuck's up with Janet?

Seriously. Why are you so far up her ass that you defend her at every turn, but you can't defend anybody else? It's a big question that needed to be asked. I've been waiting for it to get asked, and I like the way she goes through the events before. this she brings up el coyote she's like i was talking to michelle across the table like she was

mouthing to me i'm not mad at you this was between her and i this jenna situation we were trying to handle it because i had nothing to do with it meanwhile asshole number one is on michel's right making faces doing this side eye that she does every conversation and it's so exhausting and infuriating why did she need to get involved and then she gets involved and your response to her is just oh janet it's like no stand up for me say something because on the flip side and we've already done this by the way with zach and sitting at lunch with doty and brittany and i forget who else was there nea and zach and zach had the same sentiment you support janet you threw me away when shit goes down like anytime shit goes down

you do not have my back so now you have another person telling you this annoying person would be like, oh, God, this seems to be a recurring theme. Maybe I'm doing something wrong and need to fix it. But no, Brittany is just like, oh, you know, like, I love you both, but like, you want me to stand up for you more. Like, okay, like, I can stand up. It's like, you're missing the point. You're completely missing the point. You're missing the center of this whole thing. And that's, you treat Janet differently than you treat your other friends who you have been closer to for a longer period of time. Why? Why? The why is the question. You don't know why. I know.

You can't figure it out. It makes no sense. All those things that we've seen, it just seems like you guys have been friends for 20 years and that would make sense. But instead, you've known her way longer and we haven't seen her be more supportive or a better friend to you. No. So it doesn't make any sense to us watching. And it doesn't make sense to Kristen, who's been your friend for a long time. Yep.

So explain it to us. And she doesn't, she can't. And Doty finally reached a point. And she's like, I'm done. I'm fucking done. She just needs to shut the fuck up. And then Brittany's like, well, I shouldn't have to pick. You don't have to.

to pick. That's the thing. And that's not what Doty's saying either. She's not saying pick. She's saying, you are picking Janet. You are picking Janet. You're 100% correct. But the whole premise of it, you don't have to pick. You just need to treat them the same. You arguably should treat Doty better because you've been friends longer. But if you want to have them just on an even playing field, then when shit pops off, either stand up for both of them in a moment or completely pull yourself out and say, I'm not getting involved because you're both my friends. But don't take Janet's side and then when Doty checks you on it, get

butt hurt about the fact that you took her side and you're like, I can't pick, I don't want to pick. You don't have to fucking pick. That's not what she said. You're just so bad at being a friend. Yeah, it's brutal. That's crazy. And like, I have stood up for Brittany all season as far as the

jack stuff goes. I'll continue to do that. I get she's going through a lot. This is something that we have seen in other shows. She's not a good friend. And season one of the Valley. She's just not a good friend. Nope, not at all. She wasn't on her VPR days either. No,

but I'm glad that this is when Doty starts talking about the fan aspect of it all. It's like, yeah, she came into this group as a fan of Vanderpump rules. That's a pretty big statement, and that makes a lot more sense, especially when you watch the way that Janet moves

because she's seen VPR, right? So she's trying to do things. She's trying to do things that are reminiscent of Vanderpump because she's a fucking fan of the show, guys. That was brought in by Sheena. Yep.

No. Nope. Sheena is not allowed to bring people in. No. Okay? The fact that Sheena was able to bring somebody onto a show that she's not even on is crazy. It's wild.

It's Banana Land, but let's get some more evidence of why Jason and Janet suck because they're on the way. They're in a car going to the boat and Kristen butt dials Brittany. We've talked about the butt dial situation a lot. with Shannon Bador.

Yep. Hang up the phone. Hang up the phone. Don't sit there and be snakey and try to hear anything. And of course, Jason's like, leave it on. Maybe they're talking shit. Get out of the car. Yep.

Get them out. I don't know when. It's one of those things, too, and I understand it's a double standard, but we've watched how Jason and Janet move. This is very serious. If Zach had said it in whatever situation, I would have left. That would have been funny. But Zach has proven to me that he might use that.

in a funny way or he's just going to forget about it yep you two will go home and talk about it and then try to spin it into something that works for you and your storyline in this moment yeah so they're just i can't i just can't with them anymore i can't either like they literally jason is a weasel and tries to listen to the conversation here if they're talking shit it's dody and jesse talking about sea turtles yeah and michel who just got divorced from the guy or is getting divorced she's Like, it's weird that they're so buddy, buddy. I'm okay. I'm fine with that.

I'm fine with that. You know what I'm not fine with? Janet's follow-up. Oh, yeah, best friends forever and ever. It's like stop planting seeds. Yeah. Like, I get that Michelle could feel weird about Doty and Jesse. That's normal.

That makes sense to me. Let's not work through it. Thank you. That's literally the basis of all of Janet and Jason's problem. Get out of other people's business. Yeah. Fuck off. If Michelle was a more central character or at least a central figure in this group,

Janet would have latched on to her. Oh, yeah. Janet would have used that to her advantage. We see her and Michelle all the time. Michelle's just not involved in enough for Janet to actually use her as a good friend. Yet. Mm-hmm. Yet.

But let's get to the boat ride. Leave Luke alone. All right. The man just got engaged. He's trying to show up on the boat and have some fun and cut loose a little bit. There was a lot of moose knuckle. A lot of moose knuckle. I wrote moose knuckle.

A lot of, like, putting your foot up to. Yeah, I'm like, angle. Yeah, he was like trying. He's in a good mood. And yeah, I don't want to see his moose knuckle the whole time. But I also wrote he was moose knuckling before Jesse said moose knuckle, just like that to be out there. Mm-hmm. Okay.

But Janet has the fucking balls. This was crazy. This is crazy to me. She's talking to Jason, of course, because they're both playing that stupid game. Like, we're going to sit in the corner and sulk. Hey, you want to sit with us? No, I'm going to share it. Jason there's room for him too okay I'm gonna say it here and sulk Kristen's being so cold

because you just got on a boat for an engagement party and you haven't gone up at any point and said hey congratulations yeah that's all you have to do really all you have to do you can take advantage which you love to do take advantage of a happy person just say congratulations you might have a fun night I know your idea of fun is ruining people's marriages and self-images. And Dave and Busters. Yeah, and Dave and Busters. But this could be a good way to extend an olive branch.

If you truly want to repair that friendship and you don't want to just continue this road, which is probably going to work better in your mind for how you should portray yourself on reality TV, then you would just go over and say congratulations. That doesn't work for what they've got planned out. There is no scenario that I can think of. I've tried to like understand how you could get on that boat and not. say congratulations, there's nothing. I got nothing because there's no excuse for it.

Yeah, it doesn't exist. Because you're on the boat for the party. So at the very least swallow your pride, say congrats, and then go sit in the front of the boat. Yep. Because then if shit pops off, you can say, I congratulated, I tried. You don't even do that, but then you still want to be the fucking victim. It's crazy talk, but Janet and Michelle start talking. And I actually liked this, and I thought it was interesting, because we don't know a whole lot about Jesse and Michelle.

from back when they were happy. Yeah. And Janet says something along the lines, like, what's it? Like, how did you ever fall for that guy? And Michelle's like, well, he used to be super romantic. And he would cook me dinner. And like, he lived in this shitty apartment. And every time I came over, he was, he was waiting hand and foot.

It was very sweet, all this. And then he got money and he turned into a douchebag. Makes sense to me. More of a douchebag, probably. That all makes sense to me. I failed to understand how he was never not a douchebag. I think that he probably always was. Maybe he was a tolerable douchebag, but the captain douchebag with the hat, I was like, well done, well played.

Nice job, Michelle. But Brittany feels bad for Janet. She feels bad for Janet, and she says, you know, it's just so sad. She wasn't invited last night. She wasn't allowed. Yes, she was. Yes, she was. And that's such a vital part of this.

Let's stop perpetuating that. It's driving me crazy. It's driving me absolutely crazy. And I hope that when they watch the scene of Zach saying, Zach even says this could be a good moment it's an hors d'oeuvres thing you don't want to like we're not sitting down at the table

he tried and she said no it's so fucking infuriating man but we get a juxtapose scene I did not need Zach's talking to Brittany and he brings up Jackson I love Zach I've loved him the entire time he's been on the show but I love that he's able

to do this because a lot of people on this show shy away from having the conversations that he had. He's like, look, I already know about the Jack's thing. Like, I, why the fuck did you do that? And Brittany's like, you know, I know I messed up, but like,

I told him not to tell anybody and Zach's like, are you fucking serious? Like, who are we talking about here? Everybody has the same reaction to that. You told Jack Taylor a secret? Exactly. And you expected him to keep them. That's crazy. It's insane, dude. And Zach calls her out for falling back and kind of slipping back into some of these

he's already doing stuff that you know you didn't give him clearance for he's already moving back and doing all this stuff with crews and she has excuses for it which again that that's a completely different situation so much yeah than the christian engagement announcement that's just brittney's bad friend and she was definitely shit talking yep this is way more intricate and this is like a deeper friend conversation about like trauma i know how this works you're you know you've gone through it you've been with him for 10 years it's trauma you're going to start falling back into it I don't want you to do that. So here, if I put the divorce papers right in front of you right now, would you sign? She says yes. She says yes. Okay, good. As Zach, that is the perfect way to approach that topic, I think, in that whole conversation, is to make sure that she's still on board with, hey, no, you're going to fuck up the rest of your life.

And maybe your son's life if you continue to go down this road. Yep. We're good, right? You're moving on, right? Yes. Okay, good. That's it. I thought he did a great job.

Yeah, I think of it was perfectly handled. And, yes, you're correct. in saying as well like this is different than the bad friend way different she's falling back into trauma patterns over the past 10 years that's sad and you need people in your life like Zach to say hey wake up like you're doing it again so Zach's being a good friend there brittany takes it as well as she probably can in this moment but i don't need to go over to schwartz and jacks i don't need to see jacks taylor on this screen those hungry man meals that was funny only because that probably is the the sponsor of divorced dads his hungry man dinners

Schwartz going and getting him hungry man it's just a sad moment that's very funny but he again tells somebody else that Doty's engaged yeah he's like oh Doty got engaged not gonna believe it and he's like oh that's amazing like I'm so happy for like I'm gonna text her I'm gonna text her no he's like don't do that wait I'm not supposed to tell people yeah and then we get a confessional and I don't know if they think this is cute funny or cute and funny but it's like I can never keep a secret and there's a montage of him being a bad friend and telling everybody's secrets. Yep.

Like, this is why we don't like them. Yeah. This is not good for the show. This is actually, if you had just that, that's okay for the show. Without him on it. Everything else, no. Yeah. If you just showed the montage without having to talk to Jacks in real time, I'd be down

with that. This tries to put a spin on it like, oh, you guys know that wacky Jacks. Yeah, that part of Jacks, fine for reality TV. Sure. All of the other shit that we've seen, not fine. exactly able to find the difference oh and then we have to sit through like a fucking sob story again like I got served and you know I talked to Brett

and I was like did we really exhaust everything I just get out of rehab you didn't even give me a chance she's short snapping this thank God like he's had enough he's like dude shut up like you don't need to get back with her that's a fucking idea you're gonna end up in prison like how much more do you need to hear what else needs to happen for you to get it through to yourself that this is not

supposed to be a thing and how many more times are we going to have to sit through a scene of jack saying woe is me i just got out of rehab in heavy quotations and she didn't give me a chance because you didn't change you're the same fucking guy that went in there i'm not doing this again i've done it like four weeks in a row but like by the way the audience is all cheering brittney on for not giving you a chance exactly understands you talking about this right now we're exhausted we're done i'm so tired. I'm so tired of it. But let's go back to Michelle and Janet because I'm not tired of her. And they're bringing up the Jenna thing. Zach and Michelle are talking about it. He's there as well. And Zach's like, look, I'm sorry about all. It was not malicious. I've known Jenna. I met her when I moved here.

She's best friends with Sheena. I'm friends with Sheena. Doty's known her for like 17 years. I didn't expect the way that this conversation started because I thought it was just going to be more. of pouring on to Kristen set this up, Kristen set this up. Zach may have set this up, whatever it was, I don't really care. But instead, it was Michelle actually asking, I talked to Zach. He said it's actually you and Sheena who have been talking the most about it. This is the little poke and prod at Janet. Like, hey, are you doing this shit?

Because I'm hearing things. Uh-huh. Nope, let's go get Zach right now. Let's grill him. Zach has at least the right frame of mind to grab Kristen. Yep. Because if he went down there and he knows this better than anybody because he's already done it with Janet,

you're not going to get it anywhere. You need support. She's going to blame you and someone's going to believe her. Yep, for whatever fucking reason. I don't know why people believe her. Go get Kristen and bring her down too. I love the face that Janet makes when Kristen walks down like, fuck.

Yeah. All right, I thought I was going to be able to get this easy. All right. Now I got to stay in my ground. Nope. She still thinks that she's in the same ring as Doty. He's not even close, but Zach tells Michelle. He puts it on her.

like you said. It's like actually Janet and Sheena are the ones talking about the Jenna and Aaron thing. They keep bringing it up all the time. And if we go back just this season, who's always talking about it? Janet. Yep. She brings it up all the time in an attempt to get Michelle to hate Doty. Yep.

And we saw one little awkward exchange where Doty saw Aaron and said, oh, yeah, I know you. You were friends with Jenna. Or you know Jenna. And like that was awkward. But it was probably awkward for Kristen too. Yeah. Like she didn't do any of it. And maybe when she said that, she might have had that.

shit wait oh fuck you guys dated yeah uh shit whoops my bad that's not that deep no it's getting played up like this moment where it's like see she's trying to throw a wrench into your guys thing it's like no and janet defends and she's like look you're my real friend and like and sheena loves you it's like stop stop with that shit answer for what she just said don't throw it a different direction why are you talking about it so much i don't know it's very strange but doty enters the conversation and Michelle asks, like, where did Jenna come from? Like, how did we get here? And that's when you get the, well, Doty's known it for 17 years.

Zach met her when he moved to L.A. Because of Sheena. So that's how they all got together. And they're all really close. And Zach, again, emphasized earlier, like, this was not a malicious thing. Like, Jenna's just always been around. Sheena's coming around. So Jenna's going to get involved, of course.

And that's when we get the montage of Sheena, which I don't fucking need. No. But it's Sheena just perpetuating rumors, talking shit, bringing up stories. Trying to get airtime. Yeah, just desperately clinging for any relevancy that she can possibly get. There it is.

Like, I know you can't see the montage, obviously, but talking about it, like, everyone in this group knows Sheena. Like, does this track? Have you listened to an episode of her podcast? Because the only clips I've ever heard are her throwing out rumors. Yep. Bankmore Oncores when you switch to a Scotia Bank banking package.

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Like, that's a little awkward. It is what it is. Not something to ruin a friendship over, but then it shifts. And now we go Doty versus Janet because Doty brings up El Coyote. And she's like, I was trying to do my thing with Michelle, and all of a sudden, you're screaming bloody murder across the table, condescending, patronizing. Janet's like, that's not how I remember it, but okay, roll the tape. What would you call that? Yep. By the way, Janet has already taken accountability for drinking and getting too drunk and then getting loud. This night, yeah. Yeah. So now we're talking about that exact instance that you've already said, yeah, you know, I drank a little too much. Things got away. but when we're brought this information

and Doty is now talking to you about it the whole thing changed that's not how I remember it well you were too drunk maybe you have a drinking problem I don't know are you an alcoholic yeah it seems like you might be oh I think you need to go to rehab

that's the that's what you did Janet yep that's what you put on people so this bro the hypocrisy drives me up a wall but she tries like her big moment was like you know I know that Jenna and Aaron haven't dated or in like 20 since 2022 or they dated in 22 and dody's like exactly so why the fuck are you putting it on me

why is this my fault and it's not it's just not and we would know if it was because producers would have shown clips where dody was talking about it perpetuating it talking to other people about oh yeah did you see aaron over there we didn't get any of that we got you and sheena talking about it but we didn't get any of that from dody so when you watch this back and i do hope that Michelle was genuine when she started this conversation trying to figure out who started it because then we can get to the reunion and now michel when we're talking about this has all of that in front of her yep and she doesn't do the well maybe christin was moving behind scenes we didn't see any of that don't fall for any of that shit shell look at what we're presenting who's talking about it the most it's janet and china

your friends use the evidence provided to draw your conclusions please and then we get to the ring thing again. Because Janet's like, well, I wanted to repair things until you brought up rumors about my husband. She thought it was squashed. Yeah. You guys sat down and talked about the ring thing. We all did too. You guys went home and talked about how good of an opportunity this is to have a storyline. Exactly. And that's what we got. And that's what we're seeing here. We did play the semantics game a little bit because it was like, oh yeah, we were doing this and talking about that. And you were spreading rumors. And Kristen was like, I was just telling you something that I heard. I was repeating a rumor.

Yeah. Finally, we get that breakdown where Kristen does say, I told you I did this because you were doing shit to Danny and Nia. But she did tell them that. She told her that before, but we at least get the hammer home. Like, that's the only reason I brought it up was to show you what it

does to people when you start doing that. And we take a sharp 90 degree. Sharp turn. And she goes, I just said out loud that he sexually assaulted Jasmine and Melissa. Uh-huh. ludicrous ludicrous. I'm so happy that

Kristen and Zach got up bashed her and walked away. Nope. It's such a like that claim carries so much weight and rightfully so. But when we go through this situation

I go back to who was involved. Who was involved? Melissa Jasmine and Danny. Melissa, Jasmine and Danny have sat down multiple times to try to move past this. And they've gotten to a point that Jasmine and Melissa are like, look, appreciate the apology.

Let's move forward from here. Yep. That's all that matters. Exactly. Yeah. I was a little scared at first just because of the way that Jasmine was in the beginning of the episode. I was like, oh shit.

Is she going to go in this way? I know. I got nervous too. If she does it again, it's like, you've squashed it. It's a hard situation again, but you've squashed it. Janet bringing it up. No. Has nothing to do with you.

And that's what Doty points out. It's like, okay, so we've gone from drunken and appropriate to sexually assaulting. Like with no regard for a person's life, no regard for marriage, no regard for your kids, the kids, anything. It's just a moment that you wanted to have. And I genuinely believe she just got all pent up because finally people were coming after her and she doesn't know how to handle it, that she just blurted something out that she shouldn't have said. No. She'll never take it back. But I know deep down she realizes I shouldn't have fucking.

I probably just went too far. I really went too far there. Doesn't matter. Cats out of the bag. You've said this. Now everybody's going to be coming for you. And you're going to have to be on your guard. And your stupid husband lawyer is going to have to help you out.

But people are going to be coming after you. And you don't know what you're going to whatever Pandora box you just opens by saying that. You're not ready for that shit storm. You just activated Doty. You activated OG Doty. She's going to burn you to the ground. This is what she does. This is what we've been waiting for this season is her to finally snap.

And she has tried, to her credit. all season to not go over that tipping point. But when you make a claim like that on fucking TV, you're going to piss some people off. And you pissed off the wrong one here. Doty goes directly to Nia and Danny. And Jason's over there too. I love the line.

You've got to throw the bitch off the boat. I might name this episode that. But she says what we're saying. Like she's attempting to ruin somebody's life over there. And she tells Jason what happened. And meanwhile, Janet's tripling down on the front of the boat. She's like, I just said what it was. Like, I, the fucking reason for it was so dumb.

Having a lawyer as a husband is tough because I'm not supposed to use the real word. Shut the fuck up. Don't, do you not get what you just did? Your husband jips people out of fucking insurance claims. Yeah, he's a workman's comp guy. And we actually got reached out to by a lawyer that does this. Yeah. And said, like, she's like, look, we're not all snakes.

Yeah, but Jason's a snake. You're not a snake, whoever reached out to us. Jason is a snake. We know he's a snake. It's just atrocious. And then we go deeper, which is more information that we didn't know, that Jason is apparently telling people, which he then changes the wording, that Danny was at a fan event. Oh, boy.

And said, oh, yeah, Nia pulled me aside because apparently I was like doing that, but like, my weakness is girls with short skirts. What the fuck? What are we doing? What are we doing here? No. Danny says, I never said that. Nobody can corroborate it.

I never heard you say that, but that's what Janet and someone else. And Brittany were hearing. Brittany still somehow scot-free. Yeah, and Jared, of course. Fucking pink boots walking around there. Those people all heard you say it. They are the least reliable witnesses. By far the least reliable witnesses that are just talking shit.

Jason, again, stand up for your friends, maybe. You know, it's a scary property. position to stand against your crazy fucking wife but you know what say you know what I didn't hear it and I never believed it that's why I never said it but you did say it because you told people exactly so like I'm just I'm tired

of them all I am they all have to go and when you're talking about that instance and we get a clip of Janet telling Zach and Benji and of course they didn't believe it and when you just said in the most dramatic fashion oh my God I know like you know tying it all like she

thought she tied a bow on Danny as a person. But if you go, it's an alcoholic, he sexually assaulted Melissa, and he got this going on, like, shut up. It's crazy. And like, that's what blows my mind is when you look at it from the standpoint of real life, it's like, do you understand what you're putting out there right now? Do you understand what you're doing to this guy's life, what his kids are going to potentially see one day because you want to have a storyline because you think you're important? You're, you know how hard it is to be in the running for one of the most hated people in Bravo? It's a very, very tall order.

And yet she has climbed the ranks in only two seasons. That's fucking wild. And when you go back to that scene of her telling Benji and Zach, she says he was making them feel very, very, what? Uncomfortable? Why didn't it come up there about the skirts thing? Like, if that's something that was said. But exactly.

For whatever reason. It comes down to what do you have against? Danny and Nia. Exactly. They're happy. They're happy. They are happy. I'm miserable with my husband because I'm a miserable person.

Jason hates me. I probably hate Jason. Everybody hates you. Don't project. I don't know. You can't project that kind of shit on other people. Obviously, thankfully, in the midst of all of this, because everybody's now screaming about what the hell's going on.

Melissa and Jasmine, finally, Melissa, the person who is in question in the whole situation, who we've seen multiple times. squash this and walk through it and talk through it and give Danny you know a little bit of an olive branch like all right we can move past this we can move on they seem like they're fine no one else is talking about it that was actually involved in the situation stands up essentially and just says keep my name out of your fucking yeah shut the fuck we're done we're fine we've moved on we've addressed it we don't want to talk about it anymore we don't want to deal with it anymore why are you idiots talking about this good question great question and I'm so glad that she stood up like that was

such a important moment and like you would think that that would be the end of it but it wasn't and that's the crazier part like the people involved just told you to drop it that they're fine that they've moved on from this and it's further proof that this is a desperate pull for a storyline from janet and jason because they're so fucking miserable they want to do anything to stay relevant the only thing keeping their marriage together probably right now is this show yep the fact that they're on a show together if they weren't they'd probably be divorced yeah that's a safety baby that's a let's save our marriage baby that's what it now sounds like to me

because you guys clearly don't like each other she laid on your arm and you said you're gonna get makeup on my shirt shut up like you don't like each other but Jason's weird high horse where he's like I know it's hard to hear but like you did these things Danny it's like you're acting like Danny's been

in a blackout for years like what are we doing why are we trying to paint this guy like some atrocious villain when we've all seen him on TV is what he did with Jasmine and Melissa okay absolutely not it's fucking bad

but they talked about it they're the ones involved they're the ones that decide whether or not they're going to move on they decide it so why do we have to hear the frickin frack yell about it to try to stay crazy on the show I don't know I'm at a loss of words which I'm

very rarely at a loss of words but for Jason to then go on to say like why are we defending the wrong people like who what are you talking about who's the wrong person so delusional who's the villain that you're trying to out right now

for being a horrible person. You're also, by the way, why are we trying to defend the wrong person? If you want to just think about it like that, I haven't seen you try to defend Danny. No. Trying to tear him down even more.

So what do you mean defend the wrong person? I don't know. I don't know. Unless he mean Janet? That's the wrong person. That is the wrong person, but I'm so glad that we got the Zach line. We just want the truth.

Like, yeah. You can't handle the truth. Hell yeah. That was a good moment. Thank God that fucking. boat pulled him when I know. Don't he said, get the fuck off my boat. I'm like, hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Let her know. That little like passive aggressive and obviously, you know, it's not squashed. Kristen's still yelling at Janet. Janet's still making snide remarks. Luke. Luke's standing there with his moose knuckle. Luke walked out.

Well, he got changed. He did get changed. He said it was uncomfortable. The boys were a little tight. Yeah, it makes sense. He's trying to have a baby. Oh, good point. Makes sense.

But him walking off and while Janet and Kristen's still yelling back on her a fan bitch, Luke walks by Janet and she goes Have fun with that forever I will He said thank you I was like a ho-hum response He's just like whatever thank you You miserable bitch

I can't bro It's so frustrating to watch And I don't I know I get more flustered than a lot of people do But like It was just It's such a crazy escalation To say that on TV

when the people involved have squashed it. Yeah. Let's get to some questions. First one up here from Kylie Mahala. Watching the after show? Janet defending friendship with Sheena too hard, not a fan, question mark. We're not watching the after show.

I've had enough of this show. I can't take any more of that. We watch it every week. I don't need more of these people. No, I'm good. Oh, more after show questions from Joanne Beach. Why her Lala, Brock, and Sheena in the after show? What the fuck go away?

Because they're parasites. They are parasites. That is sure. I like how you didn't include shorts in that, though, too. He's also in the afternoon. Yeah. From Lil Gris, do you think there will be a season three? It's so toxic.

Yeah, there's absolutely going to be a season three. What they do with it? I don't know. Yeah, there's no way that. And I promise you, Janet and Jason will be back. Yeah. A lot of people calling for Janet and Jason off our screens. Love that.

Good work, guys. Not going to happen, guys, but I'm with you. Uh, like minds, who, nope, good minds, what, what's the word? Great minds think alike, I'm sorry. Like minds, good. I'm going to, I'm dying. Good, like minds, great. Uh, Jamie Gibbs, did Brittany purposely tell Jacks to get back at Kristen slash Zach for not being involved in the plan?

Yes. Unequivocally, yes. Absolutely. I love this from Kay Sparklic, more Jesse, less Janet. Hell yeah. Oh, boy. I'll feed into it. And it's K Sparkle K.

we do that every time I've done it probably 100 times from Vaugh Nez Love Nia and Danny Do they need to run from this show Yes

They need to run We said it last year Get a hell out of there You guys are happy From RTSV 93 Steel I asked weeks ago For a cast iron cleaning

tutorial Can you please do that For them Sure Not right now Not right now. What you mean? It's going to take 30 seconds.

You've done this on the show before. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, I'll do it on my, uh, the recession chef. If you're not following, go give me a follow. Give them a follow. Yeah, it's kind of jumped off. It's pretty fun. Uh, this one's funny.

I don't really get it, but from, uh, T.L. Jones, 1934, should Janet and Jason just stay in Europe? I don't care where they go, but sure. They're in Hawaii, but, oh, I thought maybe now. Maybe they're in Europe currently. I mean, we don't follow them. That's what I took it as. We'd have to be approved.

to follow Janet at this point? Not that I would. No. So yeah, no. I'm going to try to find one more in here before my phone dies. We can address this from Jacqueline Michelle Cress. If Janet slash Jacks get canned, do you think the show will get better or be

boring and slow? Better. There's enough here. I truly think there's enough here and I do think that Janet going, Jack's going will just remove people from the show that'll allow other people to just naturally have drama. These people have enough going on in their lives and they are incredibly immature for 40-year-olds that we will get a lot and it'll probably be better.

They are self-centered enough to continue to drive this show in a direction that we want instead of we get stuck on this trope in Bravo shows that we need the most drama and the most dramatic people to run these shows well. And we have proven that over the past, I would say three years in Housewives shows, in this show. that just because you have the most toxic person on the cast, it does not equate to a good show. We've had too many instances that have led to this in Housewife shows, causing them to recast, reboot, pause. All of those things came from an overly toxic dark season. That's what they're trying to do here,

and it's because you have the likes of Alex Baskin and Jeremiah, whatever the fuck his name is, they seem to think, and they're stuck on this notion, of we need the darkest material because that's the most palpable which is simply untrue. There's enough with this cast to let them shine on their own.

Get rid of Janet, get rid of Jacks and let these peacocks fly. Let them fly. Damn it. But yeah, I'm curious how they're going to wrap this season up and then this is going to be a fun one to watch the off-season moves. Yeah.

To see what they're doing. But yeah, I don't know. It's been a weird season. season. It's been a weird season for a lot of shows. Yeah, it has. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. I'll get here. That's our show. Bro's got to go. Hi, I'm here to tell you about Good Morning Night Vale. Welcome to Night Vale's official recap show and unofficial best friend food podcast. Join me, Meg Bashwinner, and fellow try hosts, Hal Lublin and Symphony Sanders, as we dissect all of the cool, squishy, and slimy bits of every

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