Bros & Shows - Todd Throws a Temper Tantrum (RHOSLC Full Recap)

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

What's up Bros? The gang heads to Palm Springs minus Heather and Mary. Tensions are high as Bronwyn doesn't appreciate that Lisa and Meredith seem to take Heathers side in their dispute. Whitney and Lisa are still at odds as Lisa wants an apology from Justin, while Whitney wants an apology from Lisa. Seth and Meredith are going through it when Seth lets her know that he has to leave the trip early to go back to work. Lisa makes things worse when she facetimes Heather in the hot tub while Bronwyn is in the bathroom. This leads to a blowout when Bronwyn confronts Lisa about the double standard that she has when it comes to her friendships. Todd decides to get involved and he quickly goes from lovable old fella to controlling rich asshat in a hurry. We don't care for the dynamic we witnessed between him and Bronwyn this episode. And then he takes it upon himself to tell JB Husband Boss that if he and Lisa don't clean up their act then they need to leave. The group is shaky at best and this trip has the makings of an absolute disaster. And hey, Todd, this is a reality TV show pal. What the hell did you expect? Want more Bros content? Join BravBros Members to gain access to weekly Bravo News recaps, monthly community zooms and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Studio Goots. What's up, dude? Victory Monday, beating those bum-ass cowboys. There's no better feeling in the world, especially watching.

I don't know if I've seen them that bad before. I really don't think I ever have, honestly, since, like, the COVID season, maybe. There was one game. That's an asterisk, though. That was a funny one, though, because it was a game in Philadelphia during COVID when only, like, 5,000 people were allowed in the stadium. so I went, and it was so quiet. It was so bizarre.

And it was like, uh, fuck, who was our backup quarterback? It was Josh McCown versus Cooper Rush. Oh, my God. It was awful. And it was like, I think it was a 12-9 game. Nice. Yeah, one of those. That's kind of what it felt like.

Honestly, I didn't get the same excitement out of beating them. I didn't either, but I loved watching them just collapse and burn. So to all of our Dallas fans that are listening, ha, Dallas. Losers. Loser. Better luck next year. Yeah, wow. smooth

nut a few buck but yeah I don't remember where I was going to go with that I don't know oh wait no that actually is a good way somebody commented last week or somebody left a review that didn't make any sense to me I love this is my favorite review

we've ever gotten a two-star review and it was we have to sit here and listen to you guys drone on and on about the Eagles as if we care but one guy pops up and he's a Texas Longhorn fan and you guys have to skewery him, I'm out. First off, I'm a Longhorn fan. Steel was giving me shit because Todd was wearing

a longhorn pullover last week and I wanted to make a big deal out of it. So I'm a fan. I hope you're still listening. Yeah, if you are actually not listening anymore, that was my favorite review of all time because I successfully got to a Longhorn fan, saw him off short, Horns down, baby. But yeah, that was a highlight for me. But little did they know, Shooter Magouter is a lifetime I'm a longhorns fan. So we lost a listener because we don't like the longhorns, but turns out shooters a huge longhorns fan. I have to hear about it every Saturday.

He sends stupid memes to the group chat. And nobody cares about the longhorns except for you. Pretty much. But we're not here to talk about that stuff. We're here to talk about a little bit of Salt Lake, a very good episode, a husband-centric episode, which gets a little hairy sometimes. But it ended up being a solid episode.

Also made me change my opinion about Todd very quickly. and could not be more on the other side of things now. Yep. But all in all the great episode. And look, I'm feeling good. My baby slept is going to piss some people off because she's only a month old. Seven hours last night, six hours the night before. I'm not saying that's it.

I'm not saying it's a new trend because I'm just, I'm expecting the worst tonight. But there's no way to describe the feeling of just having a full night sleep. And then I went to the gym and I found, I did have a little. hiccup, though. I went to the gym this morning, and I found this new place. It's been there for a while. Juicy on 4th and Conchie. Okay. So they make like smoothies and stuff and it's been my new go-to spot. I'm like, oh, this is great. I've been getting like a banana, peanut butter, spinach, almond milk smoothie. Uh-huh. Love and life. And they also do espresso. So I got a double shot of espresso. I was like, hell yeah. Did you put it in there? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. No. That was the problem, right? It sounds like that would be the

I know. I think because of the temperature. The peanut butter? No. Oh. It went straight to the bottom because it was so much hotter than everything else. Right. So I started to mix it up and I thought I had mixed it. I didn't. So I got like a spinachy lukewarm espresso at the bottom followed by the smoothie and it ruined my whole smoothie and I was really bummed. Oh no. Yeah. Not my best move. I thought but right on paper. I've done something like that before with bananas but I put like oats or something in there too that maybe the texture. Oats do. Oats do it. So it's so. the espresso better done the espresso move before i think it was just because it was fresh out of the espresso machine and it just like it fucked everything up oh man yeah but you know tomorrow's a new day i'll get another smoothie and report back to you guys my daughter slept for seven hours last night here's something i want to complain about you know me you know i did it to myself yeah but hey like i said we're here to talk to ross lick and this season continues to be good the newcomers and newcomer is Bronwyn in this one. I really like what she's bringing to the show. I think she's doing a really good job. And I'm just like every week we have three shows right now that I look

forward to. And that's not always the case. And so this is a time for our audience, for the Bravo audience at large, soak this shit up. This is not common. We usually have a couple of clunkers. Right now it's just Roney. And we got a lot of things on the horizon. So it's a good time to be a Bravo fan. And I would be remiss not to remind people to take it in while it's good because we know we have our downturns. Remember the summer. It was tough. No, this is, this is a good time, too, because when we post videos about certain shows, somebody will get into an argument in the comments saying this one's better than that one, this one's better than that one. Right now there's not really a wrong answer. I will listen to all of your arguments about it. Obviously, keep Rooney very far away from all

of those arguments because that's not a real show. The rest of them are doing so well, and I couldn't agree more every single time that we sit down and talk about these it's almost like we used to say you're going to have a few clunkers in a season i don't expect it anymore i don't expect it and that's a dangerous dangerous game for us because when we do get a clunker we're either going to be delusional in saying that it wasn't a clunker or we're going to be so turned off by it that we don't see it coming yeah we're just going to have like a complete spiral moment and we're both like i don't know what to do i don't know what to do anymore but we're not there yet and with that being said why don't we jump into this week's episode.

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making us watch. Yeah. In the community Zoom tomorrow, we're going to ask. And if it's one of you, you have to tell us why. Yep. But without further ado, Roslick, let's discuss. Because we have a lot to talk about this episode. Like I said, husband-centric, lots of dude stuff going on.

But the majority of the husbands understand where they fit in. And that's what I appreciate. They say... Very important note. It is because they all say amongst each other, like, we're staying out of it. It's not our fight. We have a pact. There's a brotherhood, which I thought was actually really fucking funny.

But it's good. That is the correct mindset to have, especially when they're pushing... That's not their fault. The cameras are focused on them. But they're handling it well because they're not diving into the bullshund. except for one idiot that we're going to talk about. But we start out with Meredith and Lisa. They're having a little spa day.

And Heather joins to give her side of things in the Bronwyn conversation. And she says that she was invited over there just so that Bronwyn could tell her what a shitty person she was and then push her for an apology. Now, we watched this scene. We did. You watched it last week. What was your take on the Bronwyn and Heather? I know we talked about it last week, but, like, I'm not seeing what she's saying. I'm not seeing it either.

I think that in terms of housewives sit downs, especially one-on-one, this was one of the true events that could have gone either way. I think that Bromwin invited Heather over thinking this could be a good resolution and it would result in you being invited to the trip. It might be an impasse and maybe we'll just agree to disagree. You could still go on the trip or you can stay home if you want to or it could go the way that it went, where Heather ends up storming out. I think that from Bronwyn's perspective,

and we talk about how she's playing the game a little bit better right now, and you can't really tell what her true motives are, when we're watching that scene and we're privy to the lead up to it, her conversations with Todd, her conversations with the other women on the show. It seems like she was giving Heather a chance there. And while, yeah, she did beat around the bush a little bit on an apology, it's kind of part for the course for housewife apologies.

Right, that's kind of my point. I saw the same thing. Like, yes, her phrasing was intentional. She was saying, if I did that, I'm sorry. She wasn't taking full accountability. But like you said, in the Housewives realm, a lot of times it's all you're going to get. Yeah. She did extend an olive branch, whether it was a little bit prickly or not,

there was an olive branch there to be grabbed. And I feel like Heather walked into the house with a vendetta. She's like walking in there, I'm not. Why am I here? She wasn't ready to hear anything Bronwyn had to say. And again, I understand that Bronwyn wasn't totally forthcoming with the whole. thing she was beating around the bush like you said so i get where there could be a discrepancy but if you want to be on the trip if you want to smooth this over which i don't know why you

wouldn't especially with a newcomer that could have went five different ways but you picked destruction and you wanted to walk out of there and storm out and then call these two or go and meet with meredith and lisa and say oh it was a disaster she's a nightmare i'm not included on this trip she wanted me to beg for my breakfast pretty much like fuck her And I think that that's such a bizarre move. I just don't understand. Maybe is she threatened by Bronwyn? I don't know if she's, yeah.

I think that could be part of it for sure. I think that this could have gone a completely different way if Bronwyn had cleaned up the poop that her dogs left behind. And the pee. And the pee. I think that that had a huge impact on the whole thing. Because if I walked into a house like that and I smelled pee and poop everywhere, I would be a little thrown off too.

I agree with that. Definitely thrown off. I think that something that I was thinking of is Bronwyn decided to do this in a way of come over to my house so she's essentially playing a home game. Maybe you do this. Home field advantages. Neutral site or you go see Heather or whatever you're going to do and try to talk from

that perspective instead of you need to come over and allow Heather to say, I'm coming over to grovel. I'm coming over to earn my breakfast, as she so put it. It's just, it seems like Heather came in there with one mentality, which was, why the fuck am I here? Like, why are you inviting me over to your house to talk about this? I just

think that we don't really see eye to eye. and Bronwyn invited her over thinking this could go anyway, but I'm going to be open to whatever it goes. That's fair. That's fair. What I didn't expect to get from this is Lisa being like, yeah, you know what? I'm a little bit put off by Bronwyn as well. Of course she did.

It's about Lisa. Bro, the reasoning. I was like, what? Because she asked you if J.B. husband boss and Justin would be cool on the trip. She was like, the way that she said it, she was implying that it was John's fault. And I was like, I didn't get that. I know we only got like a small clip, but all I heard her say was,

are you sure everything's cool? Like, this isn't going to be a problem? Yeah. That pissed off Lisa enough. And we know how Lisa operates. When she's not cool with you, she's still going to play along, but there's going to be so much stank on everything that she's doing

that it becomes brutally honest or brutally obvious that she does, she's not happy with you. And that's what we get when they go on the trip. But I just thought that was so funny. And her reasoning behind it's like, of course, J.B. husband boss is going to be fine. He's a CEO. It's like, what does that have to do with anything? It has nothing to do with anything at all. And I, in that moment, obviously, we didn't get a, like the

reciprocal of that. We didn't get the conversation with Whitney and Justin saying, hey, are you guys going to be cool with Lisa and J.B? Probably not. We got it later. We got it a little bit later, but that's only because Whitney wants a rich friend. Let's be very honest about this. She made it very clear. The comment that she made later is fucking hilarious. It's nice to have friends. Like, you. Yeah, no, we don't like that at all. I think that knowing what we know now and seeing Todd at the end of that episode and seeing Todd last episode talking about this whole thing, he wants nothing to do with any of this. He doesn't, I don't think he understands what kind of show he's on.

He has no idea. He has no fucking clue. I think that he probably said to her like, look, I don't want any nonsense on this trip. You better make sure that they're good. And she's like, okay, like I'll check in. I thought the same thing as you. I thought that it was innocuous. I thought that it was just making sure that she was good so that there wasn't any issues

on the trip. It had nothing to do with passing the blame over to you guys. No. Because that would be insane. No, it had literally nothing to do with it. But we do get a little set up for possibly next episode. Nothing comes up at this episode because Heather's not there, obviously. But I guess that, or sorry, something to do with Meredith,

that Sean, Angie's husband made a statement about Brooks on a podcast. I don't know why Sean's... Why is Sean on a podcast? Like, who, what are we talking to Sean about is if it's like a hair care or like hair stylist one sure but if it's a bravo one no shade but do we they didn't say which podcast it was right no it's probably adam it's probably up and adam i'm sure like you're poking i mean like let's be honest though yeah probably

let's let's do a little uh little google oh it's behind it's behind the it was that yeah that makes sense that's not surprising okay yep nailed it Okay, so now we know. Yep. Yeah, so he went on a podcast for, I don't know why. But I guess he went on there. It says that he was there to chat all about this current season of Roslick, what it's like to be one of the season central storylines.

Is it? Okay, whatever. We could do this all day. But the point is, I guess he went on this podcast and said that Meredith uses Brooks, her son, to deflect. We stand firm on rule number one here, leave the kids out. of it i don't know why sean's taking shots at meredith i i guess to defend his wife i don't know why you go on a podcast and do that that seems like a weird move to me merrith brought it up to him at

the party last week and to shan's credit he at least was like that's what i get from it so i appreciate that he stood his ground on it rather than back pedal i'm big no no no like i just don't know where that why why yeah i really don't understand what it even means i don't really i don't get it at all like what do we not see i think i would have felt a little bit better about all of this and Meredith just said, I don't understand what the reference even means, because I don't get it. I have no idea what the hell he's talking about. I don't either. And it's not like he's alluding to something darker or stranger out there that something weird's happening. It just made no sense to me. It was honestly very similar to Lisa calling out Angie saying that you just

hang up with me because you got to talk to your daughter. It doesn't really mean anything. You're just throwing the kid out there for the sake of getting a rise, I guess. There's been a lot of kids being thrown to the bus in a lot of shows this season. No more. Yeah, I don't know here for it. It's the low-hanging fruit. It's easy to piss people off using it, and it's just, let's not do that. But it's also the second time that Angie or somebody accompanying Angie has made a comment about children.

Yeah. It's starting to add up. Dude, gone of the days that you could just insinuate that somebody's cheating on someone else. Yeah, those were the days. It's an easy one, right? But anyway. Take some more marriages up. Come on.

Yeah, no. No. But let's go to Todd and Bronwyn, and we get a little update about the trip. Mary can't make it. she's spending the weekend with her son. Heather obviously isn't coming. And this is the first kind of glimpse you get of Todd. Like really Todd.

Because Todd's like, good, I don't want any drama this weekend. But it's very stern. It was not really how you talk to your partner. It was more how you talk to a subordinate. It was just very, boom. Good. No bullshit. Somebody should have told them, don't do an anniversary trip on this show.

No, not with the crew. Like, it just made no sense. I just don't understand this. And also, he was flying back. from where? I don't know. Korea? I think he was in South Korea.

Was it South Korea? Flying back from South Korea. I thought he said there's a Japanese restaurant in his hotel. Yeah, but he was in South Korea, but there was a Japanese restaurant in his hotel because I made a weird note of that. So he's flying back and then immediately getting back on the plane to go to Palm Springs. Yeah. Like, it just seems like you're doing a lot.

It seems like you're doing a lot. And it's also interesting to note just how Bronwyn responds to him versus how she talks to other people. You'll see it much more later, but this is the first inkling I got where I was like, ooh, I don't love the way that they communicate. Don't love Todd in this scene? Yeah. We got glimpses of it last week as well, but yeah, it comes out full throttle later, but.

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Eligibility restrictions apply. See Golden Nuggett Casino.com for details. We're kind of checking in with everybody pre-trip, Sean and Angie and the Lisa Barlow of it all, and Angie's relationship with her is still kind of on the rocks. And I like that Sean has Angie's back. Their relationship is strange. I don't know always where they stand, but I will say, because she's like, you know, I've let her get away with a little bit. And he's like, you let her get away with a lot.

And I'm like, all right, he's supporting her. That's cool. We check in with J.B., husband, boss, and Lisa, Lisa is not excited for the trip. There's a lot of tension with a lot. There is unnecessary tension between her and Bronwyn now because Bronwyn, quote, unquote, alluded to you starting it, which is not what she did at all. She's expecting an apology from Justin, which is stupid after that whole thing. You guys should just let it be what it is, just to wash. And then the whole thing is tied on a bow because she's still pissed off at Angie for the kid comment, which I get.

And I do actually appreciate how much she took that to heart. Because you can tell she cares. And we've said that before. good mom we've seen it and yeah that had to suck to hear but at the end of the day heather there was no reason to take that information and tell her about it i understand you're trying to cover your own ass because you knew it was going to come out on tv i get that part of it that was such a one-off venting moment from angie that was not supposed to be this big deal and now it's carried over three episodes and she's very torn up about it and i just feel like

it was one of those things that could have been avoided it didn't need to happen it's causing a massive rift between her and Angie K, which we know will not be repaired, unless Angie we're seeing right now why they have not come to terms yet, because we know they're still feuding on social media. This is why, because Angie is now putting her foot in the ground, like I'm not bending the knee to Lisa Barlow anymore. And the only way to make it right with Lisa ever, as we've seen time and time again, is if you admit all wrongdoing, apologize to her, prop her up on a pedestal and she's the best.

You're the best. I'm wrong. And Angie's not going to do that. And you're seeing why this is happening right now. You might get a very thin apology from Lisa in return if you were to do that. So it's not really a good trade. You'll get an I'm sorry butt. Yeah, you'll get it absolutely. Or just a laugh and like a quick I'm sorry and then moving on immediately. Lisa's really getting her work cut out for her though. Is she going to continue down this path of getting mad at some person and then immediately just adding them to the roster of people that she's pissed off at? Because what? She has three ongoing feuds. How do you keep up with that?

You're going to run out of friends. You're going to run out of friends, but also you're going to not really know how to react when people do things anymore because you now are creating a team against you. Yeah. But they're going to start coming together. We're already starting to see that. And look, Whitney will latch herself on to anyone who is willing to maybe take a stand

against Lisa Barlow with her. Sure. But Angie is taking a stand. Now you're making an enemy out of Bronwyn who's going to group together with Angie and then Whitney's going to get thrown into the mix. That's a tough team. If you're, I don't want her to do this, but if she turns around and then she's mean to Heather, you're done.

You're cool. The rest of your season, you're playing defense and you're only doing this to yourself because you're getting upset about the weirdest things. Like, yes, the Whitney thing, stay mad about that. Sure. Because that's insane and Whitney's crazy. Go after Whitney continuously. That's fine.

The Angie thing you could easily forgive. Bronwyn, you shouldn't have been mad at in the first place. It's like she's making it harder for herself. And I don't know. If anybody can handle it, it's Lisa Barrow. I just don't know how she's going to. She's going to shrug it off and act like it's their fault. The way that she says it later, and then everyone's going to apologize to me.

It's like you don't deserve any apologies right now, especially for your behavior later, which we'll get to as well. But I can see the couches now at the reunion. It's going to be Heather, Meredith, Lisa, probably Mary, because she's a wild card, and you can stick her over there. And then on the other side, you're going to have everybody else going against them because you keep drawing lines in the sand. And I don't think that she's understanding how formidable of an opponent

Bronwyn's going to be. Bronwyn is the first housewife on Salt Lake that successfully talked shit. Like, actually fluid made sense. It was well said when she's like, oh, but I'm supposed to, what is it, ride your dick all day. I'm like, yeah, nicely done.

Nicely done. Well said. Also, Bronwyn is bringing back luxury to housewife shows. Big time. When's the last time that we saw, and we go through Roney, O.C, they went to London

and they didn't do dick. They walked around the streets. didn't do anything cool and fun and super rich. They had etiquette lessons, which, you know, is kind of funny because they didn't actually go through with it. But we haven't seen real luxury in a while. Bromwin goes, okay, I've got a private jet for us to go on. Cool, good start.

And then this place is $20,000 a night. A state in Palm Springs. And it's fucking incredible. Yeah. Like, yeah, we need more of that. We haven't had that in years because we're just, you know, kind of shifting a little bit. Bromwin is making a name for herself. And if you're going to push her, she's going to get bigger and bigger.

Yeah. And you're going to team her up with Angie, who. who's standing alone, who's doing a really good job, who is Center Snowflake, and we're starting to see why. I just, I think it was a misstep. I think it was a Lisa Barlow misstep. I still think it's a goof. I still think they're messing with us.

I don't know what to do with my hands. But we get on the PJ, we fly down, and we're in the car on the way there. This is when I was like, all right, dudes, I appreciate your stance on this, because it's J.B. Husband boss and Seth, and they're talking about the feuds going on and the Justin part of it.

And Seth was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got a brotherhood this is a pact we stay out of the business like we don't go get to each other i'm like that's the correct stance of husbands that's where you're supposed to be and that's the funniest part because this whole thing would be over if jb husband boss wasn't trying to protect his own ass and that's exactly what it was he's like fuck lisa's gonna see this oh i need an apology for lisa don't too if you left that part out of it everyone would be cool now all the dudes would be fine there would be no more drama see that conversation though when he comes home and she asks is you going to apologize to me.

Did you even bring that up? First thing she asked. Okay. Yep. Back to my phone. Yeah. He's answering and she's typing. But on the flight, we get a little like quick cut back to the flight and they're

discussing Heather. And Bronwyn did not care for the way that Lisa is talking about, the way that Merritt is talking about it because they're very much in the camp of, well, we're Heather's friend and she was upset about this. And I don't really know if you saw her side of it. Like, we're just trying to make sure you guys are okay. But they're very, very much biased towards Heather. whereas these were her feelings, and she told us about it.

It's like, yeah, but at no point did you ask Bronwyn what happened, and now Bronwyn's going to have to force it and tell you what happened. You're like, hmm, I bet. So we're going to talk much more about this double standard that's been there. But the fact that they're saying from Heather's point of view, and she was hurt by this conversation, it's a tough start. You're on Bronwyn's private jet flying to Palm Springs on Bronwyn's trip and your first instinct, because this is what Lisa does,

She gets pissed off about something and just starts dropping little crumbs. And this is the first one. On the private jet there, you're going to start talking shit and be like, hmm, we see Heather's side. I do love that, though. Oh, it's great. I think it's perfect. It's great.

She's on someone else's private jet talking shit about them. Yeah, it's perfect for me. It's not a bad move entertainment value-wise. Right, right. Strategy-wise where I'm like, I don't know if it's going to work out. She's gotten away with it for so long that, you know what? I don't blame her for thinking she can do it. That's fair.

That's fair. But we get to the rental in Palm Springs. And you want to talk swanky. We've seen some swanky spots. This is Housewives of Old. We're walking into this beautiful $20,000 Palm Springs Estate, pretty much. In the backyard, there's a,

it looked like a natural pond. Yeah, I don't know what the hell that was. Because I thought they were going to keep panning out and it's going to be a huge pond. It was just a little natural pond there. You got a nice pool. There's just a big field in the back. There's all fun and games.

I would worry about algae and something like that. I don't think there was any algae in there. There's no way there was. I think there's a self-cleaning. some sort of mechanism that does that for you. There's one of those stupid trampolines that are in the water that never work. I love those. What do you mean?

They don't jump. You can't jump on them. When have you ever gotten more than a foot of air on one of those things? Every time I've been on one. Bullshit. Every time I've gotten one of those. I was on one on a lake like two years ago and got at least like six to seven feet. Bullshit.

They don't work. Was I drunk? Maybe. Yeah. Okay. So one to two feet. I think the thing is you have to jump from a higher position to land on it and then you jump off.

You can't just, like, propelling yourself. You're talking about a blob. Yeah, those blobs are great, too. Those are fun. I'm not talking about that. The tramp, every single experience I've had with a water trampoline, you jump on it, it doesn't do anything. It's just a big hammock.

And then everyone hangs out on. We met at Tony Perkiss's heavyweights camp. You know that you and I had a lot of fun on that blob. I'm feeling skinny, Tony. The blob's a different thing. The blob's not the trampoline. All right. I'll take that.

Step out on the scale. Get off the scale. Gerald Garner, come on down. I got to watch that. I watched it within the past couple. It holds up. It holds up very well. It's so good.

And I love the conspiracy theory that Tony Perkis is actually, like Goodman in Dodgeball later. And I think that, and also the nurse from Happy Gilmore. Yeah, that's a great conspiracy. I'm all for it. But anyway, we're at the Palm Springs rental.

And watching Seth have a full-blown about finding a bathtub is one of my favorite moments of this season. Because that was very important. It was genuine panic that was happening. The thing is, all of us in the audience are also watching before they even get there saying, I wonder if Meredith's going to get her bathtub. It's an important thing. It's very important.

We all know how important it is. It's even funnier that in his confessional, he's like, look, I know this is the low-hanging fruit. Like, you even acknowledge it. Yeah. That's funny. I like that. But Bronwyn is already addressing the vibes between her and Lisa. She's already sensing something's going on and she's confused even more so because she's like,

I already asked about the Whitney thing. she said it was cool. The funniest part of this is, it's not really even about inviting Whitney. It's about what you said on the phone are Justin and J.B. Husband boss cool. So, Bronwyn's not even on the right track as to why Lisa's upset, which is making

it even harder. And I am furious at Lisa. Furious because the food in Italy is too fresh. Yeah, that was probably the most insane take I've ever heard in my life. In the history of takes. You can't call it dumb. You can't

call it, it's just crazy. Ludicrous. I cannot wrap my head around that. The food's too fresh. Do you think you are? That is disparaging to the entire country. That is, anyone out there that's a huge Lisa stand, you need to try to defend that.

I won't hear it. I can't hear it. Because, look, when I was over there, that, well, I have such an affinity for Italian food already and then especially eating fresh, real Italian food. It's, it's like a little hug to your stomach every time. So, Lisa, too fresh?

Too fresh is fucking insane. Insanity, absolutely. I need to know, and like I don't want to know more because it's already crazy, but I need to know specifically what she means. Is she talking about meat? Is she talking about the pasta? What is she talking about? All of it.

I think because she's used to chicken nuggets and Diet Coke from fucking McDonald's. That's crazy talk. That's crazy. I'm about to end this goddamn episode now. Gets me really mad. Ooh, I'm a hot. Immediately taking Bronwynside. Oh, absolutely.

Even if she's totally wrong, because God damn it. Yeah. You can never take that back. We get to meet Rocky, which awesome name, cooler spelling. Rocky is the jewelry dealer from L.A. that they may drive down to Palm Springs with millions. Not a couple million. Six million dollars total in jewelry. And this was not the typical thing that we see in Beverly Hills where they can rent them or just have them on for a party.

This is to purchase. This is a fucking anniversary present. Yeah, that's fucking nuts. And by the way, she had her dog that pisses. and shits all over her house wearing, what was it, the Salis, it wasn't Salis. No, it was Charlize Theron. Charlize Theron's, I guess she wore it to the Oscars or something, whatever.

No. And it was what, $3 million? At least. Yeah. She had it around her boxer. Like, this is good wealth. This is unwealth. We need more of this.

Agreed. What I don't like about it, especially given what I see later from old Todrick, is the dynamic. The dynamic of these two is, interesting. And I don't love the dynamic. And even in this scene where she's like sitting down like, ooh, I want this. I want that. And he's like standing with his arms crossed, like watching this whole thing. I wouldn't have even batted an eye at it. Well, she said that he loves getting

me gifts. And it didn't look like a man that loves getting gifts. No, I looked like a dude that's like, I got a jewelry dealer coming down. Like, can we get this over with? And especially again, given what we saw at the end of this episode, I'm like, this paints a different picture of what this dynamic is in this relationship and the million dollars in jewelry. And, you know, the palms all of it all of it made me i got a much different vibe and like a pit in my stomach i saw somebody point out and i wish i could give credit to who it was but i just saw it skimming on twitter saying that this is the new erika and tom oh i mean i'm not saying that you know todd's up anything various of course let me clarify we're not claiming anything

vibes and dynamic in the relationship i could see it yeah i can see that too and i think we're going to get more out of it hopefully um or todd's just never going to be on the show ever again that's fine too honestly which is such a fall from grace from having fun cat sweaters and shit he just went from like a fun goofy old man to like a crotchety annoying old prochety old

old fart sure it's not what I was going to say I heard an F in there controlling controlling yeah I don't know what F came from but hey whatever controlling we get to the pool side slash lakeside slash pondside whatever that body of water is

we're over sitting next to it it's Meredith J.B husband boss Lisa Barlow, Seth joins, and Seth has to fucking Seth, man. I feel like Seth shoots himself in the foot all the time. He doesn't do himself when he favors. He walks over there with a Kalamata, whatever

drink, and it's fun. You know, he's got his bucket hat on. He's in vacay mode. He's going over to his friends and his wife, and he's like, oh, this is the life, guys. I'm out of here tomorrow. This is the life for about 12 hours. Yeah, I have to leave really fucking early. To get back to Ohio. Got to get to Columbus.

And I have been connecting flights. through Minneapolis to get back to class. I don't know what the fuck's going on. On a Sunday. On a Sunday to get back to work, the only reason I, like, raised eyebrows, I mean, I felt bad for Meredith, and, like, this has been a sticking point before in their relationship.

When she says it doesn't add up, I'm like, oh. So, I don't know if you saw the blind item floating around there? No. That there's a housewife that's imminently going to file for divorce because they wanted to do it before, but the timing wasn't right for the optics, but now the timing is right.

And a lot of people underneath were like Meredith and Seth, Meredith. And I didn't have any fucking clue. I'm reading through it. I'm like, why why are they saying Meredith and Seth? This makes no sense. And then you watch the episode and you're like, oh, maybe. Maybe. I'm not... Only because they highlighted this the same thing happened before.

The fact that she threw in this, something's not adding up. Doesn't add up. To me, it was like major red flag. I'm like, what is that? That is a weird sentence to throw in there. It could be one thing if you're just annoyed that he's working all the time. get it, fine, whatever. But, yeah, the something doesn't add up. It's very specific.

It's very specific and implies, obviously, immediately everybody's head goes to cheating. Yeah. And that's Meredith's fault, honestly, for phrasing it that way, unless that was intentional. But, yeah, that was very interesting. That stuck out to me. I'm curious to see where that goes. I will say, I don't love blind items because people can literally send in whatever they want. It does say, like, there's a disclaimer at least where it's like, these are not

corroborated pretty much, or independently verified. It got enough traction and enough people were saying, yeah, I've heard something similar and it's like, oh. But again, they didn't use any names, of course, so who knows, we'll have to see in the next couple of months. And that sucks, too, because I really do when Seth was involved in this, and obviously

we did see, I guess this probably happens in the next episode, where he's getting involved in yelling shit from across the table. But before all of that, when he's involved, I got excited. Yeah, I like Seth and Meredith together. I do remember, what was the, what was name of their podcast, like hanging by a thread or something?

Yeah, it was actually hanging by a thread, yeah, uh-huh. Is it? Which also, yeah, that adds more into it. Oh, fuck. I need to, I need to make sure. We're doing a lot of research this episode. We really are. Shout out Google.

We love Google. No free ads. No free ads. It is. It's hanging by a thread. Okay, this is damning. Yeah, this is. I'm ready to move the needle into this is damning evidence.

This is bad. This just got a lot worse. shit so they might be on the vibe of the show is completely throw it off though yeah especially considering what he says where he's like she's got really high expectations and I never managed to get in one day I can't hit all of them

his confessional was awful yeah that was awful dude what are you doing I think we just figured it out I do not care how much of like a hard place you and your wife are in or you and your spouse I just do not care do not go under your confession

Not as a husband. Are you shitting me? That's awful. Yeah, tough. Stupid. Tough look, bad look. Hanging by a thread. Hanging by a thread.

Hanging by a thread. But I get to Angie and Whitney and Bronwyn and, uh, Bronwynn, like I said, is picking up on the vibes. So she's been, she's doing that thing where you keep checking in with somebody. Like, you sure we're good? Like, we're good, right? And she's like, you guys got everything you need. Like, everything's cool. And Lisa's like, yep, we're fine.

We don't need anything ever. Again, little hints here. It's not very subtle, but she is showing it. And then when they go outside, Meredith and Lisa go sit on the other side of the pool or pond, whatever the fuck they are, and they're not talking to anybody else. The dudes are cornholing and they're discussing what needs to happen for people to move forward. And it's like, well, Lisa wants an apology from Justin. Whitney wants one from Lisa. It's a mess.

I think everyone's general consensus is this should be a wash. Like, no one apologize to anybody to just move the fuck on from this. in Bronwyn, she's starting to see the cracks, which is interesting it took this long, because they've been friends allegedly for years at this point. And I think the difference is that she's now friends with Lisa Barlow housewife, not Lisa Barlow. And also around the housewife friends.

Right. So that's going to add a little bit more to it. And she acknowledges Lisa's not going to fucking apologize. That's not going to happen. And Angie, you say it's a goof. I'm starting to see more and more why she is Center Snowflake because she will, at the very least, be the one, and be like, I'm going to go pour some shots.

And she's next to the private chef. And I'm like, fuck, how do I get on one of these? Right. Right? And I could bring you, you could help me out. You could be the bartender. Sure. Like, this is a whole, we could do this.

A whole thing? Yeah, if any, any Bravo. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. No, no, no, never mind. We need to practice what we preach here. What? Oh, you're right. No, no, no.

Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't want to get involved. No, good point. Maybe if we sign a thing, it's like, yeah, don't put us in the Joe, we just want to be here and listen. Don't use this. Then they won't invite us.

No, they would, because they don't give a fuck about us. Yeah, we're not part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Back on. Plans back on. But they toast. And it's nice to see all the dudes viving.

Like, initially I'm like, all right, cool. The guys know their role. They're just having fun. They're playing cornhole. They're talking about how lucky they are, except for fucking Todd. I like how Sean pulls Justin aside. And he goes, I think it should just be me and Justin versus you two, right, guys? Yeah, right guys?

That was good. Yeah, good move. Good move. But that's, they know their assignment. Stay out of the fucking bullshit. But we're at the hot tub with everybody, and that's when we get the outkick their coverage thing. And that's when I don't think Todd was kidding. I don't think Todd was kidding.

And he's like, let me do you one better. They outkicked their coverage. I'm like, Todd, look at yourself. What are you talking about? Bronwyn is objectively. If we're going to play this game, fuck it. Your wife is objectively gorgeous. all of these women

are objectively very attractive okay you didn't out kick your nobody in this group all right you were correct the first time you guys all kicked your coverage and you're aware of it high five each other like that's all you gotta do he's like hands in guys we all kicked our coverage I'm like Todd you're really burying yourself

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Probably the worst thing slash best thing for us. Worst thing for friendships that Lisa could do while being on this trip, knowing there's tension between Bronwyn and Heather, the minute that Bronwyn goes inside is to be like, you know what, I really miss Heather. We should call her right now. We should FaceTime her in the hot tub of the house that we're staying at that Bronwyn was paying for. What a horrible idea.

Great idea for us. It started off as it I miss Heather, but it was basically a. we already talked to Heather, but, you know, let's get her back involved again. Yeah. It was on the heels of having the conversation about what happened with Bronwyn and Heather. You saying, oh, I miss Heather, I'd like that. Lisa Barlow has never missed Heather. Correct.

And said, let's get her on the phone because she genuinely missed Heather. Correct. Everybody can see that. Everybody knows exactly what you're doing. And you waited for Brahmin to go to the bathroom. Yeah. Not a good move. Terrible move for the show.

Bad move for you. Terrible move. And Whitney jumps in, and that's the hard part for Bronwyn. when she has Whitney advocating and, like, that's going to fall on deaf ears. But Whitney, at the very least, does kind of lay it out. She's like, look, she invited her over to work things out. We all know in the House Rives realm, certain things are not going to go to plan. You've got to take what you can get sometimes.

Here's an extension. Like you said, I do think that home field advantage probably played into it. Like, oh, you're summoning me to your house and now you're telling me to, like, to earn my keep to go on this trip. That's bullshit. So I could see where she got kind of turned off by it. but we've seen so many times let's all right fuck it that's a half-assed apology here's my half-ass apology high five let's go to palm springs so as they're discussing on the fun and Lisa's like turning the phone at everybody like say hi and brahmun comes back out and she's like

who's on the phone it's like it's Heather and she's like she puts on this shit-eaten grin where she's like mm-hmm okay confessional she's like this is fucking insane and like it is insane it's extraordinarily rude to the hosts of the trip because you know that things aren't good. And she finally calls out. She said, this is fucking weird. And like, this is shady as fuck. The minute I go inside, you guys want to pull this bullshit. And I don't care if you believe Heather. And then she lays it out for at least like what the root of the problem is. And I fully agreed with her breakdown. She's like, look, what you're saying is that you care about Heather's feelings. You're advocating for Heather. You're fighting for

Heather. You believe her. Whatever. You're saying you checked in with her after this whole thing to find out where she stood. When did you do that with me, who you claim to be just as good are friends of with, but at no point were you listening to my side of things. Did you call me to get my side of things? And now that I'm telling you my side of things, you're telling me, well, I heard a different story. So you're taking Heather's side. This shows me, Bronwyn, where we actually stand. And it's even funnier because if the shoe was on the other foot, you would lose your fucking mind. And in Lisa's mind, the shoe is on the other foot. Yes, correct. Because Bronwyn didn't check in with her after Whitney came after her at the anniversary party.

And that's what she does. And she did. And she did. And thank God. And again, we can't say it enough. Thank God that Bravo does us some justice and throws out the footage out there. Because if you had said that, I wouldn't have remembered a problem went over and talked to Lisa afterwards. But when Lisa's in that state of mind, she expects everybody to huddle near her. And she doesn't really care if individuals are there. She just wants a show of support from the group. Yep. But you need to go the extra mile. You need to call her 75 times in the next week to discuss exactly what happened. And nobody in their right mind is going to do that because nobody wants to continue to talk about something like that,

especially with how you are. So Bromwin succinctly puts down Lisa and shows her exactly what happened. But in Lisa's mind, you did the exact same thing. What are you talking about? You never checked in with me. You're going over here and clearly you didn't check in with Whitney and Justin to see if they're okay with us being here. You wanted to make sure that me and J.B.

We're going to be okay. What? Not true. It's just not. She thinks that these things correlate. These things are exactly the same. and they're just not. And in her brain, it is.

And no one else, like, Meredith won't speak up on her behalf for that. She's just going to sit this whole thing out. Like, everybody's just like, what the fuck is actually going on? But what she's actually doing and she doesn't understand what she's doing, you're admitting fault then because you're saying, well, you didn't do it either. It's like, well, then you know what you did is wrong. And we have video evidence of her doing it. So now you have proven that you are in the wrong.

And yet when this whole thing wraps up, by the way, you say that you deserve an apology from everybody. But what we did not need and absolutely never, ever, ever need again from any husband on these shows, period, is somebody waiting over doggy paddling to the other side of the pool because he's too short to stand and hanging on a floaty going, why don't we call Heather? Why don't you fuck off, Todd? See, I thought this was fucking hilarious. I thought that was incredible. The entire, the vision of him just floating across on that one little noodle, there was probably like three more noodles. there but one little noodle going across like hey hey guys we just call heather right now were you not

paying like you paid attention when the voices started getting a little bit louder just stay the fuck out of it you just had a raw raw speech with the boys about staying out of it about knowing your place on this show and in your marriages just stay over there yeah some weird shit over there with the boys that's all that really matters he's definitely straddling at least one noodle and floating on one that was my in my head he had at least one underneath and then one like under his but totally and then he had the one on top holding his arms up so oh so like scoop he's doing the broomstick yeah you know like the rascals yeah might see in like a walmart oh yeah but he was doing that with the noodles okay yeah he's rascling over dog the doggy paddle rascal yeah that's him

swimming yep let's get the underwater footage let's see what happens i just imagine his little feet kicking like dog went out of the water they're kicking really fast and he's not moving he's exhausted by the time he gets there why don't we just call why don't fuck call heather but I love everyone's reaction they're like we did call heather fuck on like they fucking jump down

Todd's throat and he goes back to the dudes and then Brahman brings up this double standard it's like there's this fucking double standard where if I'm going through something or anyone's going through something it's on us to go figure it out with the person but if you're going through something I got to ride your dick like it's my job

and I was like that is that's shit talk that's how you do that no one else on this show knows how to do that it's also very true 100% true it's so true and everybody on the cast everybody around there knows that that's true yeah and it's it's we've seen it for years other people on the show have seen it for years they tend to fall back into the trap but angie's finally seen the light and this is the delusion that that lisa lives and she's like i didn't do anything wrong and everyone can apologize to me once they figure it out like i don't even feel bad it's like you should feel bad and plus you're about to get kicked the fuck out, which is kind of funny.

The way that it's gone about is not funny, and we're about to talk about that. But we get Bronwyn and Whitney inside, and obviously Bronwyn's upset. They're like, look, if they had Heather's side or they have issues with me, then why the fuck are they on this trip? It's like, because it's a $20,000 a night Palm Springs house, and they're going to come on the strip. We didn't even talk about earlier when they walked into the house, and that's when Whitney likes to have rich friends.

She legit says. She says, I've never had a friend like this, invite me on a trip like this. It's nice to have friends like this. Yeah. That's a tacky-ass. We know what you're doing. Yeah, tacky, gross. We don't like that.

Act like you've been there before. Then that's also her in this scene coming in. Like, oh, I need to make sure that we're good. Yeah. She needs to look over at me and say, that's a real friend. Totally. She just said that nobody checks on her. Lisa's not checking on her.

I can swoop in. You're not going to do anything, Whitney, because you can't do it. You're probably going to make it about you and it's not going to really make any sense. But you can be there. And she wants to. She's going to weasel her way in. And I'm very curious because, in my mind, the Lisa Barlow that we've come to know, does not want to lose a friendship

with somebody as affluent as Bronlin because the proofs in the pudding now like you get to the house like holy shit like there it Alexis I know I keep doing it ever since I fucking episode god damn it but you see the wealth like you can see it you can fucking taste it like it this is

real wealth and I don't yeah but is the wealth too fresh it might be too fresh maybe that's what it is yeah yeah it's Italian Italian food she needs some older wealth so you need some uh some some some stale wealth, got it, not that fresh wealth. But yeah, I think I'm curious to see how next week goes because I don't think she wants

to lose this friendship. And I think being threatened with getting kicked out, she's going to pull a 180 and go try to smooth it over. That's what I see happening. But I also could see Lisa being like, fuck you, I'm out of here. I'm on the camp of she's going to stay. Yeah, and it's not that insane if she were to leave because it's apparently only a one-day trip anyway. They're just going

home on Sunday night anyway. So, like, it's not that, like, just leave with Seth in the morning. Yeah. Go to Minneapolis. Minneapolis. Like, why not? Who cares? There's connecting points everywhere from there. I don't know. If I had to bet on it, I would say she's going to swallow her pride, but not actually apologize. She's just going to keep things cool for

the next 24. Okay. That's what I think is going to happen. I don't see them going home. I don't think they're going to leave out of it, but we'll find out. But, I mean, it gets deeper. Like, Bronman obviously is going through that shit with her kid. trying to reconnect with the father of her child. And she's like, Lisa never checks with me about that. It's like, Lisa's not going to check on you.

You're finally figuring it out. This is what's going to happen. But the episode ends in a very strange way. And like I said, we've been getting inklings. It hasn't come full throttle. And Todd walks in. And the first thing that I noticed, her demeanor does a 180, though, like completely different. Like, shoulders down, looking at the floor.

and Todd comes in, like, he's her father. Yeah. He's like, I told you I wouldn't do this. I'll tell them to leave. I'm not going to do this all weekend. I've had enough in three hours for the whole fucking, like, the tone that he has, the way he talks to her, it was belittling, it was condescending, it was gross. Her reaction to it is weird.

I felt bad for her in that moment. And then to go into the confession, I mean, like, you know, he comes in with a machete. I wish you come with a Nerf gun sometimes, but it's always a machete. I'm like, he shouldn't talk to you like that. No. Like, that's crazy. He shouldn't talk to anybody like. like that and he strikes me very much now as and i've thought this before in the past with a lot of

the rich people that are on these shows sometimes i wonder why they put up with it sometimes i wonder why if this is how you are and you're very regimented it in your life and your your lifestyle why would you invite this in to your life and that's what i get from todd todd seems like somebody who is very rich but very private and just tries to like go about his life and the idea of bringing something like this into his life was probably something that Bromwood really wanted to do. And he said, well, if it gets too fucking crazy, though, I'm not going to deal with it. Shut it down. I'm going to shut it the hell down because I do not care.

That's what I get from him doing this right here. You knew what you were getting into, but the first sign of this, and you saw it last week when they're having dinner and at the end of the conversation, which we didn't really talk too much about because we didn't really know enough about Todd. But at the end of that conversation, when Bromon is going over the things that are happening, eventually he just shuts down. Eventually, he just says, well, I don't want to talk about this. We've already talked about this.

It's like, oh, all right. Well, you know, you are on a TV show to talk about this, but whatever. I guess that's fine. As long as it doesn't breathe its ugly head. I just, I chalked it up as Todd's old. Yeah. And now it's becoming he's old, rich, and control. Yes.

And I think that to further your point, I do think there's a level of wealth. And I've dealt with this before at dinners that I've cooked. Not my main clients. My main clients are all lovely, wonderful people. I'm not to, it's people that, like, were guests of. Mm-hmm. they seem to think that if something is not to their liking, they don't have time for it.

Right. And they have the control to be like, get the fuck out. I'm not dealing with this shit. It's like their time and energy is far more important than that of anybody else in the room. I cannot stand people like that. They're my least favorite people in the world. Like I said, it interacted with a couple at these dinners. But that's what I immediately got.

I was like, oh, you think that your shit's more important. So you don't, you're going to tell everyone. everybody what's about to happen. You're not going to ask questions. You're not going to hear your wife out. You're not going to try to reason. You're not going to try to understand and compromise. You're going to put your foot down because what you say goes because you have more money than

other people. That's not true, Todd. And I don't like that about you. I really don't like Todd anymore. Todd went from, like, lovable old man to controlling dickhead very quickly. Very quickly. If he came outside to me, bro, if I'm J.B. husband boss and this crotchety motherfucker comes up to me, goes, you guys might have to leave.

I'd be like, fuck you, I'm out of here. And I'd take a shit. I'd do an upper decker in the bathroom. Take a shit. Take the lid off the top, drop a deuce, get my shit, and bounce. Based on the status of their home with the shit everywhere, I don't think it would really affect them that much. It wouldn't even be affected.

They wouldn't know it was there until a long time. I guess, at the very least, he did go talk to J.B. And didn't go right to Lisa? I guess, but that would have been a way more uncomfortable scene. Sure, but at the same time, you could argue that instead of going to the source, Lisa, he went to her husband to talk to the man about it. If you want to play that card, I'm just saying, I don't, I do not like Todd. Yeah, I do not like Todd.

I don't like how he talked to Bronwyn. I didn't like that scene. I thought it was uncomfortable. She looked uncomfortable. Anytime a husband walks in, like the dad and puts his foot down and puts them in their place, like that's fucking embarrassing. Yeah. Just because you have money, I don't, who gives a fuck loser?

Go put on another. Your sweaters went from cute to stupid. Very quickly. Very quickly. Yeah. And they're not stylish either. You look like an asshole. You look like a, like one of the.

those coin holders that are about to burst. You know, like when you get like a roll of quarters, but the mill is kind of fucked up. That's what the house looks like. I had no idea what you were talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. A roll of quarters, but the middle is kind of wonky. Oh, my God. Dick bag.

Well, I did post a picture of Todd for our questions. Ugh. Yeah. He looks like Santa Claus that got fired. let's get to some questions here um yep right away a z roxy 63 do you think bromwin's husband is a dick she changes her demeanor to him yep sure do sure do well said a z roxy a z roxy uh Travis balladden do you think Lisa is going to play the victim against brawman going forward um no I don't I think she's going to claim that Bronwyn's at fault and she's going to say

she's better than that or some stupid shit and be like, I'll wait for an apology. So I guess that is victim. Yeah, a little victim, yeah. Fine, dude, relax. From our friend, Billy Big Deals. Oh, Billy Big Deal. Making them deals, baby. Are you making deals today, dude?

I hope so. Is Seth just an awkward human or a bad actor? Him leaving felt like fake storyline for Meredith. Perhaps. It was weird. It was awkward. You know what? I'm going to say he's just an awkward human.

He's a very awkward human. I've seen them in the bathtub, but he's awkward, right? He did have a toe in his taint, so. He did, yeah. I would be awkward, too. Unless you're into that sort of thing. We don't kink shame here. No, no kink shaming.

From Holy Bex, Batman, are the husbands of Salt Lake City officially at Jersey levels of overly involved? No, God, not even close. They are not even close, and they are borderline getting to an annoying part, but, like, they still have some work to do. Yeah, look, they actually get annoying. They need to stop putting. them on it's tough when you're on a couple's trip to not do that i will give them credit again

for saying things like not our fight we're not getting involved we like the brotherhood pack thing like we stay in our own lane and do our own thing they seem to be self-aware could i see those lines being blurred very soon absolutely they're tiptoeing but i do not think they're not anywhere close to the jersey husbands because they're not trying to start drama but i do see that leaking into it so we've gotten enough of them they've done a decent job let's uh let's let's move past them now, but it's going to be tough because we're definitely going to get more Todd because they're going to, you know Bravo's going to hone in on that. Yeah, and from Cocoa Notso, interesting perspective, opposite of us, Todd showed them

who's boss and that they're footing the bill for this vacation, not Bravo. Bronwyn could have had the conversations then. Bronwyn could have said that it's her trip. Todd knew what he was getting into. It's a fucking housewife show. It's a reality TV show. He shouldn't be doing that. I thought it was embarrassing.

I did not get. I get what they're saying, coconut, so I get what you're saying. I understand where that's coming from. Yes, he's paying for this whole thing. You're on a reality TV show, all right? Like, it's about having some self-awareness in the moment and not doing that because it's embarrassing your wife. And I think this will be our last one because there's two people that asked this and kind of pointed to it and I said something about it earlier. So people are starting to notice from Medusa Graham.

Did the Todd Father chastising Bronwyn after the fight give any? Anyone else, Erica slash Tom vibes. And the Jennifer Franklin also said, does Bromwin and Todd give Erica and Todd energy? Well, Erica and Tom energy. That's a double Todd. A double Todd. Double odd and Todra. Oh, that was a good one.

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