Bros & Shows - Toodle-Do Tia! (RHOP Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

What's up Bros? RHOP is interesting. It definitely an enjoyable season. But GNA needs to reign it in. Gizelle tells Wendy that she's over Stacey. She sits down with Monique to clear the air over past ...transgressions. Stacey is getting ready to launch her gummy brand. Ashley is doing the absolute most this season and it is not landing... Which is apparent during the Josh "break up" scene. The episode ends with Stacey taking AJ's advice and going in on Tia of all people. Was that the right move or should she have saved that energy for someone else? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 we've had a few people in our comments saying that the Stacey talk is getting old What does that mean? We're just getting started What? I know Brows and shows I gotta have me my pros and shows
Starting point is 00:00:43 Bros and shows Brows and shows I gotta have me my Brows and Shores and shows Good evening everybody Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows I'm your co-host Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only shooter mid-gooder.
Starting point is 00:01:00 What's up, dude? That's just kind of mean. No, it's a two-parter. I'm not calling you mid. It's a two-parter. One, Mid-Atlantic, right, Potalmic. Two, remember Mids back in the day? You smoke a little...
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh, man. Get some Mids, bro. You wouldn't get all, like, hyper and anxious. Yeah, just Mids. Just Mids, man. Just hanging out on some Mids. What the fuck? What do you mean people are mad about us?
Starting point is 00:01:25 People say they're like, you know, the Stacey, what did they say? It was on YouTube, I think. The whole show is about Stacey. I know. Thanks to Ashley and Giselle. I know. What do you want from us? We're just acknowledging that she's a great housewife.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. Now, there's people that are clearly in the G&A camp. That is, I think that's more ludicrous to me. Agreed. Then like, all right, I'll drop the veil for a second. Yeah, it's fun to just tote Stacey and just act like we're huge, we are huge We are, each day spent. We're going to act like we're always just going to have her back, no matter of the situation.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You know us. You know that if she does something crazy and stupid, we'll look at it pragmatically. What's crazy is that there's people who support G&A. I know. That is ludicrous to be. Wild. Wild. But as we know, there's always a supporter for a housewife.
Starting point is 00:02:14 No matter what housewife you pick, somebody's on their team, G&A, especially, like, if it was last year and you're like, I'm a GNA fan, okay. this year, how are you a G&A fan? Is Kearna have fans? Does Angel have fans? Angel has one fan. Yeah. And it's a wag that she bullied in this submission from 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Just refuses to go against her. I love Angel. I don't know if she's listening right now. I love you. Don't tell her. I said anything. But this season's good. It's just a strange season because we have a lot of things that I'm enjoying.
Starting point is 00:02:50 A lot of things I like, mainly Stacey. centric whether you like that or not i don't really care but there's a lot of things going on now that are old tropes and they're coming out of the woodwork and we talked about them a little bit last week we talked about a little bit two weeks ago saying these are some things that are going to get old quick well guess what they got old yeah the best that i can describe it is the episode by episode is very enjoyable yes yes storylines are holding on but what we have is like a sense of nervousness because we've been down this road before, and when things get tired,
Starting point is 00:03:25 the whole show goes with it, especially with this cast. So I think that's really what it is, and yet we're of that thinking while we're watching the episode, but the episode's enjoyable. So it's just like kind of staving it off. It's almost like we're expecting it to happen at some point.
Starting point is 00:03:39 We don't want it to happen, but we just can't ignore the signs that are clearly out there. You can see where it's going to happen. You can see how it's going to happen. It just keeps getting pushed a little bit further down the road. It's not a happy, excited, let's see where this goes. Oh, shit, let's see where this goes. It's a, fuck.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh, man, let's see where this goes. Fuck, Ash, she's doing more. She's doing a little more. Giselle's doing that thing that she does. Oh, no. Giselle and Ashther, both doing the same thing in simultaneous scenes. That's not good. But the rest is entertaining other than why is Angel narrating Greg getting a ring?
Starting point is 00:04:14 I don't understand this. I don't care that Angel was in that scene. That scene was incredible. It was a great scene. But let's jump right in. because we'll talk a little bit more about what we're talking about in a little bit. But if you're an OG listener, you know what the hell we're talking about. Anyway, let's go Ranger Rover shopping.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I'm always down to go do some rich shopping. G wagon. G wagon for G. She's going to buy a Gwagon, not a Ranger, over, excuse me. And she wants an electric one because global warming is real, according to her. Yeah. What an idiot. The ice mountains.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. Okay, sure. Yeah. Like, that's happening. I love the tie back in when the, uh, the, the, uh, the, car dealers kind of like walking around telling her what level the water can get up to. And she's like, global warming, if that ever happens, I'll be all right. No, it's not how that works.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Everybody knows you survive global warming if you buy an electric G-Wa. That's just how it goes. Wendy arrives to help her go shopping, and they start to talk about Stacey. And you get a line from Wendy that describes how to handle Stacey. She tells Giselle how to handle Stacey. and she goes, people don't know how to tell you that they like what you're doing. So they mimic it. That's Stacey.
Starting point is 00:05:26 She sees something she likes and she copies it. She's sweet and nice. She just doesn't know how to say I'm enjoying this, so she does it. But it goes back to the old saying, like flattery is the, what is it, imitation is the highest form flattery. That's what Stacey does. And like, sure, you could take it a certain way to be like, oh, she's copying my brand, she's doing this. again she's not really copying the brand she is leaning into some wendyisms for the brand but i don't think it's coming from a malicious place and i think the best way to understand
Starting point is 00:05:58 stacey and according to wendy who co-sides this the best way to handle stacey is to one not take her too seriously and two understand that the things she's doing are not from a malicious place yeah i mean i overall i was okay with this scene because the way that jazelle is handling it. She's way more hands-off than Ashley. If Ashley didn't exist, I would probably be looking at Giselle asking a lot of questions about how she's handling Stacey. But I'd much rather her do this in response to what Wendy's saying, which we've all been saying for weeks at this point, listen to Wendy. Wendy clearly likes her to a certain extent. We don't know if they're best buds or whatever, but she can handle her and she can at least have good moments with Stacey on the show,
Starting point is 00:06:41 which of course corresponds to a good moment on the show that we're watching. That's what we want. Giselle having the way of thinking of, I just don't want to do that or I don't have time for that. I'm fine with that. I don't care. That's completely fine. It's the active takedowns. It's the bringing things back up that we've already squashed or we're already tired of.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's the problem. And that's what Ashley's doing. So as long as there's a bigger evil out there, I really don't care. I agree. And I think it's irritating to hear Giselle say some of those things just because I'm cool with where she's landed. Like, I'm going to let her live. I'm kind of tapping out.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Fine. That's fine. I'm with you on that one. But the other part of it is if Giselle could just lean further into what Wendy's doing. Now, I'm not saying that because I just love Stacey so much. I need Giselle to get along with her. Stacey and Giselle in a good place would be great TV. They would have really funny moments. You would watch Giselle kind of lead her around and make some stupid jokes that Stacey wouldn't fully grab. It would be fun. So they could be frenemies. That would be the best case scenario. Exactly. And I think that that's why I get irritated from Giselle's standpoint because you're holding so hard to, I want nothing to do with it. She's a liar. She's a big fat liar. Again, what is she lied about? Right. Other than Timo, a team who. And what of those
Starting point is 00:07:59 lies have actually impacted your life? Right. But she's trying to hide behind it as this like, oh, I don't fuck with people like that because I can't trust them. It's like, dude, you've been friends with so many people in this cast that are worse. Your best friends lied about all of her marriage details. There you go. And then she got kicked off the shell. Right. So what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Your co-host, right away. So it just, it doesn't track. It doesn't make sense that you're holding Stacey to this standard. And I think the reason why is simply because of Stacey's quirkiness. I think because she's a little weird, you're holding her to a different standard than other people. And I think that's bullshit. But I'm cool, like you said, I'm good with where we've landed. If that's where Giselle's at for now, I'm not going to keep trying to stoke the fire.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'm not getting involved. Okay, fine. Yeah, I think this could also just be a season where we have to grin and bear it because Giselle is very good at her job, and by the time that this is done rap, or wrapped filming, whatever, she'll understand how we feel about Stacey. I hope so. And then she'll change her tune slightly, and it'll be more in line with what we're saying right now. I never expect Giselle to just be fully supporting Stacey at all times.
Starting point is 00:09:02 That won't happen. And, yeah, I don't want that either. But she'll have a better understanding of how we view Stacey, and she'll understand what that comes with if you go against Stacey. She can see all of us talking about Ashley and what she's doing and how tired it is. She doesn't want to be in that camp at all. So we might just have to bear through it for the rest of the season. It's going to happen here and there.
Starting point is 00:09:22 She's going to get aggravated with Stacey on cast trips. In big moments, fine, whatever. Just as long as it doesn't get overplayed, we're okay. Because I know that by the end of this season, starting next season, throwing Karen back in there, it's going to be messy. But you're not going to have the Giselle going after Stacey for no reason. I hope not. I'm getting nervous that she's starting to do too much this season. We're starting to see Giselle of two years ago, not Giselle last season,
Starting point is 00:09:47 and that's getting a little nerve-wracking. Do you think it's correlated with the talks, which we do talk about in the scene, about Karen coming back? I don't know. I keep the seat warm for Karen. Maybe if she's like, oh, I need to now go back to my old role, but I don't want that. I want Giselle to be who she was last year. I want there to be a power struggle next year.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm cool with that, too. I just don't want her to go back into the green-eyed bandit role. It just, that's not where she survives. And we don't have the other bandit to help, quote unquote. So depending on how you look at it, more than likely. But as they're talking about Karen, hashtag free care and hashtag nah, 4DIs, let her, let her serve her time. Okay? Like, I've come to terms that they're coming back to the show.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Let's not hashtag free care. I keep going back to BravoCon where she got that grand entrance. I know. It's just so funny. So, like, she's getting enough kadoos. We don't need to hashtag free Karen. Karen needs to serve her time, and then Karen can return to the screen. But for DUIs, no, no, hashtag, take her license away.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah. Now on to Monique. Her and Giselle did not get along great. Anybody that watched the show knows that. But Monique seems like she's in a different place. I love the fact that Giselle is approaching this from a, this was a Monique problem. This was a Giselle. Monique has always been extremely level-headed.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like she would get more activated back in the day for sure, but she is one of the most down-to-earth Housewives, which I'm sure you've probably seen in her short tenure back on the show. That's pretty much her demeanor always. So it was more of a Giselle issue, but Giselle is willing to sit down with her and clear the air. Great. Anytime we're getting to resolution amidst Housewives across the cast, that's a good thing. We want this group. This group together is one of the best cast together, I think, when they're all. And they're actually firing on all cylinders and actually together.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, I do agree with that. I think I do at least like that Giselle even says, and I'm going to take it for face value, we're all about taking accountability here. Okay. Okay. All right. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, that's a new one. Yeah. No, you're not. But that's a glimpse into her psyche a little bit. I also thought it was like a slight dig at Stacey still. It was. Yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And like that's where it kind of falls short for me. But whatever. Let's get to Stacey and AJ. I'm glad AJ's back. He's almost in like a friend of role, which is kind of fun. And it's the day before the Shio launch, which is also falling on June 10th. And credit to her, Stacey, do you know how many businesses we've heard the plans of? And they've talked about for years.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And then when it comes to launching said brand or product, nothing fucking happens. Yeah, I mean, this is definitely an easier brand to launch, I would imagine, than like an athlete. demand, which is the biggest thing that everyone's ever done. Or, you know, pizza by cherey. Yeah, pizza ovens. What else? There's a very long list of failed business endeavors. Yeah, so I think this one, and look, I assume, I'll know this for sure, but I assume once you get over the hurdle of, yes, you can sell this legally in this state, everything from there is just perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I looked around. You can buy them at the Ardmore dispensers. Shio stuff? Yeah. Yeah, they're in a lot of different places. We might have to have just a little special bros night where we just try some of the product. Try-o some Shio? Just hang out.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Do you have a medical card? It's in the actual dispenser. This is like actual... Oh, no. Card. No. Who do we know? We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I do want to at least try some of the product because then we can talk about it. I don't know. Have a little shy bro. Shy bro. Rise and shine with the bros. We could watch a replay of that fucking disaster last. night while taking Shio gummies. I mean, I was already in that state of mind while I was watching it, and it went very
Starting point is 00:13:41 quickly from, this is fucking hilarious to wait, what happened to the football game? Yeah, it was, I watched clips. And here's why. I'm not above the idea. I actually thought it was kind of a clever idea to get some of your favorite reality starts talking football and checking in with them during the game. You got West on the sideline who works for Complex, so he obviously knows what's going on, Boston Rob, he knows what's going on.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Here's my issue with the broadcast. For any women that enjoy sports, and there's quite a few, love football, especially with, like, the Taylor Swift of everything, which we've both been excited about because it gets a lot more, like, my daughter's now into football because of Taylor Swift, so, like, that was all cool. But they wanted the approach of, like, yay, sports instead of taking it somewhat seriously. So if I, and I can't speak for women, because I don't know, but if I was a woman that enjoyed sports and like actually liked football, I would be somewhat insulted at their broadcast.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, it was definitely like a pull of the rug because I thought that it was going to be them commentating on the game. Same. And here they were in New York. They were in a studio. They had the game playing so you would get like the double box here and there, which was great. But then randomly it would just go to the panel. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And it wasn't during commercial breaks. It wasn't, and there were no real commercial breaks, but it wasn't during a timeout. So then they would pan over and you would see a TV in the panel. background and it's like second down and they're actively playing like second and one big no one's reacting except for boss and rob who's just staring at the tv who immediately regretted going on yeah he was just getting peppered with every football question under the sun to his point a lot of them were very innocuous questions and a lot of them were very specific questions that he didn't know so it's not really his fault that he didn't know some of the answers but i can't
Starting point is 00:15:27 imagine what he was going through and then they would check in with west to talk about random things that were not pertinent to the game and he was just talking to the camera and behind him, his favorite team was playing and they were actively playing and there was a touchdown that happened behind him and he didn't even get to see it. So that was, yeah, the whole thing was a cluster fuck. It quickly
Starting point is 00:15:46 went from, wow, this is actually kind of a cool idea. Throw it on like a shitty game that I don't care about and I'll watch the whole thing. Right back into, wait, they aren't even doing anything football related anymore. This is bizarre. But yeah, what the hell were we talking about? I don't know. I just,
Starting point is 00:16:02 We go from the gummies to this. Because I felt the neat. Oh, because I said we were talking gummies, then you took a gummy to watch last night. Correct, yeah. And I was saying we could take a gummy and then re-watch it. Yeah, although Luann's performance was spectacular, as always. That's, I think, my issue with it is there's a way to do that well.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And it would be entertaining as shit. And I don't mind having people on that aren't necessarily football fans. Like, that's part of the fun. And you can answer questions. It'll help people in the audience that maybe aren't super up to speed on the rules and stuff like that. Like, it's a good thought. I mean, the current state of the Eagles, I'll be watching the Monsters Inc. I'm not going to watch the game.
Starting point is 00:16:38 No, I'm going to watch the Monsters Inc. James P. Sullivan in James P. We trust if Mike Wazzowski sees the birds lose, I'm going to cry. Yeah. So it's an important game tonight. But yeah, that's all I have to say about the broadcast. I think that it's a good idea, but I think the execution was poor at best. We'll get right back to the rest of our episode.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 And I know they do some of it later, too, but I'll lump it all together. Her going into the labs and figuring out how everything's made and helping out. That was very cool. It seems like she's very hands-on, so I'll give her that. They keep hammering home the timeline, and I think it's so funny, because they're just trying to prove to us that she had this idea before the reunion. I know. And it's just not really lining up perfectly. but it's still great
Starting point is 00:20:32 and she'll never admit it and that's the one thing about Stacy where love her or hate her she could be so far into the wrong she's not going to admit that she's actually wrong she's going to spin it in a different way or just lie her way through it but it's really funny when she does it
Starting point is 00:20:46 and that's kind of where you and I fall and I get why somebody like Chiselle Ashley's making this all about herself I'm not even lumping her into this but somebody like Chiselle is probably looking from the outside in wondering what the fuck's going on yeah I get the frustration right and I get
Starting point is 00:21:00 why people get aggravated with her that's not lost on me what's lost on me is how they take her so seriously yeah you know like how do you listen to her talk and then have a negative react i would just laugh and be like okay like this isn't it's not worth going back and forth because clearly that's her story and she's sticking to it correct so during this scene one important thing is said by a j and he lets her know he's like remember where you're from you're from detroit check these bitches like quit lying down and and do something about it let them know that you're she mean business, so they stopped pushing around. I agree, AJ.
Starting point is 00:21:34 You want to see her fight back? Yeah, but she takes that and runs with it and applies it to the one person. I'm like, no, no, not her. Yeah, yeah, don't start off there. Now, look, she did start chiming back a little bit as far as, I guess, Giselle's party when she was going after Cookie and Kiarna. Yeah. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:21:57 That's a good way to just get your feet wet. Sure. You're going to have to stand up to Ash, you're going to have to stand up to Giselle. I like how she handled that later with Ashley, but I don't think going after Tia. That was the wrong move. Right, move, but all, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's not who A.J. was referring to. No, no, but the sentiment is there. Yes, it's correct. And, I mean, she sets the stage for it in this scene. I guess she took that conversation with Tia a little bit worse than I thought. Yeah. Because she's still on it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Like, she's talking to A.J. and mimicking her boys, like, how dare you? and stuff like that. So clearly it struck a chord with her, but when we get to that scene later, I was like, ah, turn and yell at Ashley. Save it for Giselle. The more that we see it, and again,
Starting point is 00:22:42 Stacey's incredibly entertaining, but the more you see it, it is bizarre the way that that was handled. She's clearly lying, or Timo's lying. I don't know who the fuck's lying. I don't care. It doesn't really matter. But she's clearly lying about something,
Starting point is 00:22:53 and Tia got caught up in it, told Wendy, when Wendy asked her a point-blank question, She didn't bring it to the group like everybody else does on this show. She answered a question, got caught up in the middle of it. This isn't really Tia's fault. It's not Tia's fault. She's just reiterating things that you have said. And then also, anybody can take the inconsistencies from that.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Just tell me what she said and what Timo said. And then what did she say here? Okay, there's a lot of inconsistencies in between. Let's ask Stacey. So Stacey going after Tia doesn't make a ton of sense. No. I think she could do herself some justice and just say, look, it's a weird situation. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But she's never going to do that. No, but like she needs to recognize potential alliances. That's what she is missing right now because she's now getting so defensive. She's going after whoever has gone after her. Tia feels like she's on an island. So when, I don't know, when A.J. says like stand up, she's going to stand up against everybody. Right. And I get that.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But that's my point of the lack of foresight. Who can help me out down the road? Who's actually trying to be nice to me? Tia. Tia's trying to be nice to you. You just have to smooth over some of these bumps. that you've caused because they're your fault
Starting point is 00:23:59 and instead you go after it's like nah dude save that shit for Giselle save that for Ashley every great housewife can stand on their own here and there not every housewife
Starting point is 00:24:10 but yeah every great house you're right I just think it's funny that we've lumped her now into this group she is a great housewife every great housewife
Starting point is 00:24:16 can stand on their own when they need to but every great housewife also needs alliances here and there they can't do it all the time so you got to realize that yeah and that's hopefully
Starting point is 00:24:24 something she'll figure out but we jump to go a little bit there. We'll talk more about it when we get to it. But Tia is at Sotheby's, which as we know, she's a luxury real estate agent, international as well. And we get a little bit more about her backstory. Obviously, we know she's Nigerian royalty. But according to her, yes, we had a ton of money. Sustaining that amount of money wasn't always easy. It sounds like they had money, didn't have money, had money. That sounds like they were kind of back and forth because of some dodgy investments. Her dad may or may not have made. So she
Starting point is 00:24:56 takes it as a good lesson and keeps her work ethic up and probably helped her be as successful as she is today. So nice job. But she calls Stacey. I know we just talked about them arguing, but Tia calls Stacey with the intention of, hey, you know, things were kind of nuts. I want to sit down. I want to be able to move forward with you. Stacey, she says the same thing. I think we need to be able to clear the air and move on. I just don't like how everything went down. But what would Jesus do? He would sit down with Stacey. So I'm going to put my best foot forward. give her the bennie of the doubt and go to her opening and try to be nice. I think this is a good way for Tia to not only do what she needs to do and stand up for herself,
Starting point is 00:25:37 but also show. Like, I'm making the effort. Yeah. And it's a genuine effort. It's a, and we've walked through this now like four or five times for Tia explaining it, which is very funny. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I heard everybody say that she's a liar.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I sat down with her, talk to her. She seemed nice. Talk to her again. She lied. So I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt again. We're just going to keep wiping the slate clean. That's actually great and I love that, but that's a good way to put yourself in a good position, especially with the fans, where if you do go toe to toe with Stacy, you've given her a lot of chances. So it's okay. We're all right with all of that. I did think that Stacy sounded a little weird on the phone. Did you catch that too? Yeah, but I think she's just weird. Okay. Because I had a different thought. Do you think she's shy o'gummy? One, shy o'gummy for sure. That's what it sounded like. Two, I wonder if she knew that it was being filmed and then you can go way deeper in the that and say, is she putting on a character
Starting point is 00:26:28 for the show? She's like, I don't know if this is, yeah, yeah. You know? But like, I don't know, maybe that rings true for a lot of the women, though. Oh, I'm sure. She's putting on a, she's putting on a performance. To a certain extent, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talk about that all the time when Housewives get wrapped up in their character
Starting point is 00:26:45 and that's, look at Tamara. Yeah. Tamara has become Tamara Judge of Orange County instead of better or worse. Yeah. It is better or worse. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Who knows? But I had such a a problem with this next scene. Such an issue. I never thought
Starting point is 00:27:00 I would feel so defensive of Josh, of all people. Because as this scene starts out, it's Ashley and Josh, and they're going to a... This place is awesome. It's like an F1 car simulator. Do we? We should go. We should definitely go, because that looks sick.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah. But they're hanging out. They're driving cars, all this other shit. First and foremost, this is the most important part. We don't fucking care. I don't care. I don't care at all about Josh and Ashley's quote unquote relationship.
Starting point is 00:27:30 This was presented to us as though it was Timu and fucking Stacy or Giselle on a date. So my take on this, which I do think it's unfair that you had to have a sit down with Josh on cameras to break up with them. Agreed. I don't think it really means that much. However,
Starting point is 00:27:46 we and a lot of people have had a lot of questions about why we're still talking about Josh. So maybe we just need to see it and just get it over with and be done with it. But not like this. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's very clear to everybody involved. Everybody who's close to it, everybody who's watching as a third party, this was never
Starting point is 00:28:04 going to work. We have a lot of questions about why you're with this, man. I don't really need to see your breakup. We didn't think you were with him. Yeah, we've been dating for a year. And then when she brings up the labels was very funny, too. The labels was ridiculous. You know, progresses from boyfriend to fiancé to husband.
Starting point is 00:28:18 That's what happens. It's like, what are we doing here? She fucking mansplains to this guy how to be a grownup. And I was like, okay, I've given Josh shit, made some Jack Harlow jokes here and there. We don't know anything about this man. She doesn't know anything about this. That's my biggest point. She goes on this tirade about finances and being mature and responsible enough to have a family.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And that's not all it intents. We haven't given him the chance to one say what he does. We don't know his financial standing. We don't know how well off he is or not. Okay. The Pittsburgh comment didn't do a lot of favors for him, but that's okay. No, that was hilarious. That was a tough showing.
Starting point is 00:28:58 He should have just not said that. But that, put that aside, okay? We don't know his financial standing. We don't know how he feels about kids. We don't know how he feels about anything. The way that she's talking to him is like a 15-year-old kid. Like, well, when people love each other, then they get married. But with marriage comes financial response.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, dude, what the fuck are you? What? Why are you telling this guy what it means to be a grown-up? And then not giving him the chance. to reply to you. So all you're doing is emasculating this man on TV.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah. This guy that we don't know that we were cool to just chalk up some Jack Harlow jokes and not talk about him. Now we have to watch you say he's not financially stable.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He's too immature to have kids. And this whole thing was a sham. And then to add insult to injury. You compare his dates to getting taken on a private jet and having somebody rent out the restaurant and your big fuck, moment to show us a picture is the most touristy stupid shit of you and Michael Darby swimming
Starting point is 00:30:00 with dolphins. Yeah. Fuck you. I mean, it was really embarrassing for Ashley, the way that she walked through the whole thing. I still had some hope randomly through it that it wasn't going to be as bad of a scene as possible. It was. I thought that maybe she was going to go into talking about having kids and, you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:30:16 kind of leaning towards not having kids anymore. I'm kind of leaning towards just finding a man and, you know, getting married or a woman and getting married. and moving forward with my life and not having kids again. I thought she was going to talk about that, and she had made a decision. Instead, it was, like you said, mansplating how marriage works, how having kids works. And the best part of it was halfway through her soliloquy about finances, he tells her, well, you don't know, like, you know that I'm not flashy, but you don't know what kind of money I have.
Starting point is 00:30:43 She doesn't even know. She has no idea. She implies that she does. She's like, let's keep it above. Fuck you. Again, why haven't you gone on trips? If I'm Josh and I'm dating Ashley, you have gone on cast trips, you have gone to the love hotel and hooked up with a man named Ralph who growled in your ear that I had to then watch, but you still want me to take you on a trip. I don't really understand.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Again, you didn't do himself any justice with the Pittsburgh comment. No. That was hilarious to Pittsburgh last weekend. Ah, dude. Bye Pittsburgh, man. No offense, Pittsburgh. I don't know. It's a great city.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I really enjoy that city. But it's not what she was saying at all. And I get it. but I'm still team Josh through all of this. This was ludicrous. It was so embarrassing for her, first of all, but also for him. I felt terrible. And I'm like, I haven't liked you since you can't.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And I didn't dislike Josh. I was indifferent towards him. I felt nothing, right? Now I'm sitting here with sympathy for the guy going, wow, she just made you look like the most insufficient, just nothing man. Yeah, it's embarrassing. Why did you have to do that to him? There's no need.
Starting point is 00:31:51 You could have simply gone to lunch with Giselle and go, Josh and I aren't seeing each other. And it would have had the same effect. We don't care. You know what, do we call out production for even including it? No, fuck that. This is Ashley's fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. I feel like she was pushing it.
Starting point is 00:32:07 We need to have closure. The audience needs closure on the Josh thing. No, like you said, you could just sit down with anybody on the cast. I don't care who it is. You could sit down with your mom for all I care. You can do a confessional. We could just go to the next scene with you. you and your sister and you could say yeah i'm not seeing josh anymore and we'd be like oh cool you
Starting point is 00:32:24 could also not even mention it and we wouldn't think that you guys were together no so this was the most unnecessary emasculating stupid juvenile dumb scene it is peak actually more to like next episode she's going to be sitting down with somebody like you know josh and i are done it's really hard to move on you know how i know because we got it this episode i haven't talked about josh all day it's been one day yeah he's going i kind of miss josh do you he's coming back that ain't it. I would bet a lot of... Hear me? Yeah, same. But he's coming back. Anyways, let's
Starting point is 00:32:56 keep trucking, and we get to Giselle and Monique, finally sitting down to hopefully clear the air. And where do we begin? Is where Giselle starts. And there's a lot to discuss between these two, because a lot has gone down over the years. But Monique's newfound sense of self, where she's
Starting point is 00:33:12 done blaming others for everything, she's taking accountability, even all the way to the Candace thing, she still blames herself for that for having it gone to the levels that it did. Now, this is what Giselle does. And this is another reason Giselle's, she's losing me quickly this season. This
Starting point is 00:33:28 scene didn't help either. I like that Monique stands on business. Yes, this is a positive Monique scene for me. It was a good one because she stands on business and bringing up the fact that you have a tendency to involve yourself in other's relationships. That is to a T what Giselle does, but God forbid you ask her questions about
Starting point is 00:33:44 her dating life. It's World War III. So I'm glad that she brought that up. And it leads back to, back in 2019, she was, Monique was training with this dude. And there was a comment made about, oh, she's a little too, a little too friendly with her trainer and references Chris Samuels as, quote, unquote, big boy didn't like that. Causing all sorts of shit for Monique in her own relationship. It has nothing to do with Giselle and having no ramifications for Giselle. But here's what Giselle does. She brings something like this up.
Starting point is 00:34:13 She does it to everybody. Bring something like this up. doesn't double down, steps back, allows the other ladies in the group to further question and dig and say things. And then when Giselle is brought to question again, she plays the victim. That's her M.O. And Monique calls her out on it, which I'm really glad she did. And even in this scene, after she gets called out by her, Giselle has the nerve to say,
Starting point is 00:34:41 I felt like you wanted that shit to happen. and that shit being her dragging, physically dragging, Candice. That's cloaked in a soft way to say it. That's a big allegation. Yeah. You wanted to get physical with her.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yep. Like that's what you're saying. Monique handles it really well. Oh God, I would never have wanted that. But you're trying to say that she went into that barn that night with the intention of fucking up Candace.
Starting point is 00:35:07 That's a bad look. That's a really bad look. I don't care for it. Now, when I say that it's a really good scene for Monique, I think that this conversation could have gone a lot of different ways, and I feel like Monique was prepared for wherever it went. I feel like when she walked into that room, she was going to allow Giselle to just dictate the conversation.
Starting point is 00:35:23 How far back do you want to go? And that's really like the simple question. We can go all the way back to our first issue. We can go back to the big issues. We can talk about where we are now. I don't really care, but you tell me where you want to go. That puts Giselle on her heels a little bit. Now you can talk about whatever,
Starting point is 00:35:38 and that's when you get Giselle in trouble. And then when you handle it as well as Monique, did, which was downplaying some things, just clearing the air on certain situations, bringing good examples, and then also saying, yeah, no, I never really wanted that, but still having the air about you where you can move forward. That is the most important part. That's why I feel like Monique handled this perfectly. Giselle did not expect any of that. Giselle thought that maybe it could get into a knock-down drag-out fight, you know, thrown drag in there. That could easily play out with the old Monique, but it's not going to play out with the new Monique. She knows what
Starting point is 00:36:11 she's doing she's spent enough time and we've seen this before a lot of times housewives come back on with something to prove she's just waiting and letting the plays develop she's sitting there and waiting for the other person to make their decision and then going from there making a decision snap decision sometimes but in this environment you know jazelle doesn't want to come out looking poor doesn't want to look bad in front of monique who's now a new friend of on the show this is joselle's show so let's see what she wants to do and i'll go from there and i thought the channel would beautifully She did. And I do think Giselle was knocked on her heels a little bit because she keeps trying to find issues. Yep. And every time she brings something up with an up, Monique has a great response. And she's not just bending the knee and saying, you're right, Giselle. She's saying, no, no, that's not what happened. But, you know, I can see where you would have thought that anyway. She apologizes for her role in things, which I thought was big. And it's just so funny. Because Giselle, you won't get that from her. No. What you'll get is, I felt sorry. Monique says, I am sorry. Giselle says, I have felt sorry. Jizel says, I have felt.
Starting point is 00:37:08 sorry. Very important distinction. Super important, but even more important. Monique, okay, great. That's enough. Yeah. I don't need to double down on that. Let's just move forward.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Move forward. All right, high five, let's move forward. Yeah. Great. I think it's also important to note that Giselle was at least consistent because we did see a lot of scenes where she's talking to other people in the group, like, I don't know how this is going to go. Is she still mad at me?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Is there going to be animosity? We still have things to clear. We've seen a lot of housewives go into. conversations like that where they don't clear the air, where they're just happy to move forward and like, all right, we're not going to talk about anything. She at least talked about things. So I'll give her that. Yeah, no credit. I thought it was a good scene. I thought it was a good scene from Monique. I do think that, uh, I think Jazeel was a little rattled. I think you got caught off guard. No, I love to see that. So, goodbye, Kyle. Did the sound of those words call to you like Pavlov's dog?
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Starting point is 00:40:08 God, Greg. Greg's doing everything he can to improve his... Starting off with that $2 million ring is incredibly wild. The rings, all of the rings, were insane. I don't know if, like, I'm not going to speak on his finances. I don't know if he can afford it. I mean, he's willy-nilly just buying condos and houses, so I assume he's got some money.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I think he has more money than we thought he did. Yeah, but putting yourself in a situation with Kiarna's mom who doesn't like you and we've seen that she doesn't like you, and now you're boasting a little bit, showing off a two, million dollar ring that you're not going to buy. This scene, if you just watch Greg the whole time, not only will you get a lot of laughs
Starting point is 00:40:46 at all of his reactions to all of the prices, he drinks more and more, and you can see him spiral. By the time they get to that last ring, which, you know, he may or may not side on, I think it was 180K. 186.1 carrots, I believe, and 180,000.
Starting point is 00:41:02 He's staring at that thing and he noticeably gulps. It's like, oh, God, Greg. Come on, man. The best decision he could have made was, you know, we'll square everything up when these ladies get out of here and we'll figure everything out. You're not getting any of those rings. You're going to get something else. It's okay. Where's the moistenate?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Do you have any lab-grown diamonds somewhere around here? That would be ideal for me. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. This was just a funny all-time scene by Greg. And I still have to wonder, is he just caught up in this madness? He just gets swept away, didn't really know what to do. Now he's in couples therapy and buying a ring, which is.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. And a condo. Anacondo. In a house. Because they're buying a house together too, right? It's just madness. So here's what I think happened. And this is what I hope happened.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Okay? This is like a whole theory. Yeah, you've got fanfic. Okay, ready? So I think that last year happened. And I think Greg got a lot of shit, both from Kearnah, her family, and most importantly, a lot of shit from us, the audience. Right?
Starting point is 00:42:04 I imagine seeing all those things probably struck a chord. and he's like, oh, fuck. Maybe I do need to change some things for two reasons. Okay? One, he genuinely was like, shit, that's a bad look. Maybe I need to change some things. Two, I really, really need to repair my public image because it's really bad right now.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So I think as the season commenced, as filming started, I think the initial goal was clean up public image, right? Somewhere along the way, I think he started to enjoy it. Maybe their relationship really did start to get better. Now he's in the midst of it and going, wow, I do want to marry Kiara. enter the show. Now he's gotten caught up in this whirlwind of reality TV in which things are
Starting point is 00:42:44 expedited, more extravagant, and much more grand. And I think that because everything is happening in the midst of filming, he is now literally and figuratively paying for it. Yeah. Because, yes, I do believe he's happy. I actually do believe him and Kearnah are in a better
Starting point is 00:43:04 place, which isn't hard considering where they were. Yeah. But I think because of the madness of the show it's this perfect storm of we are actually happy but fuck I have to spend way more money than I wanted to yeah and you could see all of that climax at the same time yes he is just shaken yep very funny scene but very funny scene it's a good scene for him one thing we didn't mention about the scene is angel was there I don't know because she's met Kearna once that was so I've got a theory about that too she keeps saying we've been friends for 20 years they keep showing the same picture from 13 years ago
Starting point is 00:43:35 he's just rounding up that's not even how rounding up That works. I just, I feel like they're trying to make it, they're trying to make Fetch happen with those two. The first thing that happened was, oh, we're great friends. We've been friends for 20 years. They get into a fight right away. Yeah. It doesn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah, she chin checks her right away. Yeah. So, whatever. I'm not buying it, but. Dump Angel ad Kiarna's mom. Yes. Kiarna's mom's great. But moving right along with it to Ashley and Jessica, who's her sister, and she's headed to the University of Maryland.
Starting point is 00:44:07 so she's moving out. And this is just an Ashley scene. You know, she's in a place now where she can help her family out. And we talk about Uncle Lump and how he did that. And he was that role for Ashley. Now, Ashley gets to do that for her family,
Starting point is 00:44:19 which is genuinely pretty cool. Obviously, I got emotional because we're talking about the drunk dad, the alcoholic father, who is the boyfriend or husband of Ashley's mom. I know she's not Ashley's dad. But, and just,
Starting point is 00:44:35 I think, seems like this are powerful, even in a show like this where you see the ramifications and what happens when somebody's in the throws of alcoholism who it affects and it affects the daughter I thought that
Starting point is 00:44:45 yet again another example of a Bravo kid who is just so mature so put together so well spoken like she's talking about this situation from such a I want to be mad at him
Starting point is 00:44:59 but I also know he's struggling I was like wow people spend years in therapy to get to that place right now Good, Bravo, Jessica. Yeah, good for Jessica. Also, good for Ashley. This is how you spend your money wisely.
Starting point is 00:45:12 This is what you're supposed to do. You come and do a bunch of money from a creep. You use it in an extravagant party to start off the season, and then you help out your family. Yeah. That's what you should be doing. Not worrying about Josh's finances. No. It doesn't wipe the slate clean, but it was a nice scene for Ashley.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Agreed. This is where she should live, spending money on things. Yeah. You know, helping your family. Make GNA just a charity. Then you can do whatever the fuck you want. I don't care. And maybe it is already.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Actually, yeah, I'm going to take that back. I believe it is a charity. But you figure out what you have, figure out how you charity. Yeah. Yeah, charity. Figure out how you charity. That's what you need to do. All you got to do.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. And don't, no surprise floats. Run that through HR at the very least. You can't surprise the co-founder. If you're not an HR. No shit. I was making a joke. Who do you think HR is?
Starting point is 00:46:03 Michael Darby. they're very They're very lax God help us all They're extremely lax But Wendy and Eddie are doing a pop-up Or Eddie's doing a pop-up Now
Starting point is 00:46:16 I have this stuck in my head Because of you How successful or unsuccessful Eddie's brand is Because he's doing things like this This is not indicative Of a failing brand No
Starting point is 00:46:29 It does make you think is a lot of startups do stuff like this. Appietti's been around for a little bit. I find it hard to believe that a cannabis business and they've been in it for a while is not in the black. I just find it hard to believe
Starting point is 00:46:47 that they're not making money. I mean, they could be, like both things can be true. They could be making money from it, but it could also be that they're living above their means. No, no, I know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I'm saying you're in my head, are they successful because they're doing pop-ups. insurance fraud aside. This is simply the pop-up theory that you popped up and now I can't get it out of my head. Yeah, so this pop-up, I think,
Starting point is 00:47:09 is in response to Stacey's pop-up. They can say everything they want about how they're not threatened by Stacey. I don't think that they're threatened by her, but they are a little annoyed, especially with the show, where they're going to say, we're the more established brands.
Starting point is 00:47:22 We've got pop-ups still going on, but they don't understand how that looks because you don't do that. It looks like you're on the same level as Shio when you do that. Exactly. And you want to try to separate yourself as an established brand, not a new brand that's still figuring things out. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And they do a okay job about it because Wendy's going through, like, wow, you've got all these products. Take us to the grow house. Yeah, yeah. No, take us to the grow house. That's a really good point. Take us to the grow house. Show us how everything's made. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That's what I want to say. She's just starting. We saw her go to a lab and figure out what to do. Here is our lab. Here's our strains. Here's our place. That would be kind of cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I think that would be awesome. And this is also a not, no one else is thinking about this except for me. No. You got it stuck in my head. But I think the funniest part about these juxtapose pop-ups is the fact that Stacey didn't invite Wendy because of conflict of interest. You can't see how my gummies are made, dude. Yeah. Because you might make gum.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Which is fucking hilarious too, because it's not like we're even seeing how they're made. No, it has no bearing on your company. No person ever has gone to one of these events, whether it's like a new beer, just got dropped, a liquor, weed, whatever it might be. No one's going there taking notes. Like, oh, that's a... It's like Mr. Slugworth from Willie Walker. Give me a jawbreaker so I can reverse engineer it from my company.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, exactly. Like, that's pretty much what I think Stacey thought was going to happen. This is, to me, this is Stacey learning a new term. Conflict of interest. Probably. My lawyers are advising me not to do that. I would imagine that maybe from like a PR standpoint, it might be weird, but it's not like Eddie's going.
Starting point is 00:48:59 That's Wendy. Really? because you're just supporting the industry. Yeah, I don't really understand any of this, but it's a weird Staceyism. It's such a Stacey thing. Like, I loved it. It just, you understand, right?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Wendy, Wendy's like, no, I don't, but whatever, it's all good. Now, Tia comes to the event with the sole purpose of trying to clear the air and a show of good faith to Stacey, hey, I'm here, I do want to work on things. That for me is why what happens later was just so not worth it.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah. You know, and if you have that, If you have that energy for anybody there, do it to Ashley. Yeah. You know? That's the best way to do it, honestly, because we do at least have like a Stacey Ashley sit down, stand up technically. But this is so interesting that she's got this sort of energy towards her. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I just thought it was, and we'll get to Tia in one sec. We'll just do the Ashley thing first. Yeah, we'll go through the Ashley one. Because they're trying to figure out how to move on, right? And Ashley's the one that says, like, I'm here as a show of good faith. okay and they're talking how do we move on and stacey's the one that initiates the conversation so this is tough because you have to hear how ashley analyzes a situation which is not what the situation is no because she is refusing evidence and that's where one stacy's going to
Starting point is 00:50:16 get way more support for me because the lack of acknowledgement of things that are being stated drives me up a fucking wall so that's why my stacey isms are probably more nauseating than they would normally be? Maybe, but, like, I think Stacey did a much better job because as Ashley's going through it, saying, well, every time I just wipe the slate clean and then you lie about something else and lie about that. And Stacey's saying to or plainly, but they're all proven to be false. All of the things that you're bringing to my attention have been proven otherwise.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So I don't understand why. And it seems like what Ashley's issue is, and now obviously this brings the show into everything, and that's what we've been saying. Ashley's presented with information. I don't even want to call it evidence. information about what Stacey's doing. Rather than going and bringing it to Stacey's attention, which a lot of them are just menial things like little issues here and there
Starting point is 00:51:05 that don't need to be brought up on a grander scale, it just fits her narrative. She wants to go after Stacey. So also, rather than just compiling all of it and dumping it at once, she's taking every little detail to Stacey to ask about inconsistencies. And then it gets proven wrong. And then she moves on to the next. It's just really annoying to watch.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And even watching her during this, It's like, Stacey just told you that everything's proven wrong. So this isn't a you have to wipe the slate clean and move forward. It's a you got shitty information and then tried to push it on Stacey. So that's not at all how anybody's viewing this. Right. But then when you get that information, those facts, you refuse to acknowledge that they exist. You sidestep.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's my issue. It's like we've watched all of these things pop up throughout the season. And you're moving from one to the next, but you're not letting the last one go because you're still implying that she's lying you called chris he said you didn't know what you're talking about that should be enough but no your response when she brings up the fact that they've all been debunked is not you're right it's monique is letting it go monique's not letting anything go there's nothing to be let go of so from you coming from this place and giselle coming from this place if she's lying about chris she is not to our knowledge because chris said that he doesn't know what you're talking
Starting point is 00:52:22 about. Now, if you find more evidence and bring that forward, that's a different story, but you guys aren't even getting any evidence. You're taking what cookie said is gospel, and you won't let it go. If you have an issue with Stacey, fine, but say why. Because you're weird and I don't like you. Don't say it's because of these reasons, because that's not true. None of those reasons are true. And then when you're faced with that fact, you don't say, oh, you're right. You go, Monique's cool with it. Of course she is, because nothing fucking happened. Right. I think it would have been a lot better of a situation for Ashley, and I would even somewhat respect it, if you just said, look, there's inconsistencies, and it feels like every time that I'm ready to move on,
Starting point is 00:53:00 somebody tells me something else about you. So there's got to be something wrong here if everybody keeps coming up with information about something that you said or did that you're saying you didn't. And yeah, you've been proving a lot of them false or whatever you want to say, and we're supposed to move forward. What do you want me to do? Look at you in the face and say, hey, I'm sorry for bringing that to your attention. It ended up not being true. My bad. When I'm hearing about something else. There's just too much going on out there. So it's tough for me to believe you. A constant noise. If you could somehow eloquently just articulate something like that, I think everybody would be like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Stacey's still entertaining as
Starting point is 00:53:35 hell. Way more entertaining than you've ever been on the show. But I get it. I understand where you're coming from. It just seems like all you're doing is, ah, shit, that one didn't work out. What else do I have in here? Let me go through my DMs. Like, that's what it looks like to us that you're doing. And that's why it's not landing. And it's got to be super irritated. especially for Stacey because she doesn't have that information. It's not like Ashley or Giselle are sitting there like, we're hearing so much about you. Something's got to be afoot at this point.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Can you just like talk about it and we won't interject? That would accomplish a lot, I think. But instead, they just keep coming to her every single time and it's getting irritating. It's extremely irritating, especially when things continue to be refuted. And then you bring it back up two episodes later under a different guise. It's like, duh, it's just exhausting. Yeah. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I think you said it perfectly. I think if you went at it, like, look, there's a lot of noise. There's a lot of chatter about you. This has been proven wrong. This has been proven wrong. But daily, I'm hearing something new. And if that's, here's the floor. Something's got to be true.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Right. Or are you just getting picked on? I don't know, but make it make sense to me. Yeah. There. Not. Throw this at her. Fuck, it didn't land.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Throw that one at her. Shit, that didn't work either. What are we going to do? Oh, spiral. Nobody appointed Ashley for this crusoe. No, she's just bored. She did it to herself. She's just, and that's what Ashley does. And that's what her biggest flaw is, I think, is she starts down a path or a storyline. It's not knowing when to pull to shoot. Stop it. Get out, not working. We don't care. Do something else. You can go do literally anything else and you'd be more supportive than this. Correct. But we have a little, it's not even an after party. It's like reconvening after the event. And there's like in a back room, there's waters and stuff like. that refreshments which is important for uh my favorite quote later but stacey turns to tia
Starting point is 00:55:28 hey i want to i want to clear let's do this it's time and immediately and we've seen the clip obviously the toto do but immediately i'm like shit i think she's going to do what a j said now she shouldn't do it to tia no he is a potential ally yeah shit and she starts almost immediately she didn't even let Tia like sit she's like yeah and just goes in on her I was like no misguided it was a bad move and I don't really understand why she got so empowered to do that because of AJ yeah I guess it's AJ gasped her up AJ's in the room she's like watch AJ it's like oh wrong one think because Stacy just hasn't gotten any support that she doesn't even recognize support anymore so maybe she thinks that she has support
Starting point is 00:56:14 because Jazzy showed up and she quote unquote squashed it with Ashley, it's like, okay, now I can set my sights to Tia, who I've got a problem with. It's like, no, this should be a party of squashing everything. Yeah. Talking about it, you don't get empowered and go after her. No. Because that's not going to work. There's no need to.
Starting point is 00:56:31 She's not coming here with animosity, and you had it. You had it teed up in the beginning. I was like, okay, fine, because she brings up the fact, like, look, a decline is a decline. Agreed. We talked about this last week. Tia should have recognized, like, okay, he doesn't want to come to dinner. Yep. could you have handled it differently Stacey probably hey he's just not ready to be around the girls yet
Starting point is 00:56:52 that would have been better you didn't do that from Tia's standpoint like hey acknowledge that she's saying no okay so nitpicking that lie in particular for me is like not that big of a deal yeah but to come find out that the reason why Timo didn't want to go was because it was Eddie and Wendy going to be there that doesn't make sense either it doesn't really and they tried it their best to explain it by going back to the reunion, that Eddie was the one who was on the phone with T.J. and all of this came about. I get how we could get there. It's a bit of a stretch. But I don't know. Everything keeps coming back to what the hell is going on with Wendy or with Stacey and Timo. Yeah. We don't know. Nor care. Stacey isn't telling us a lot more, which tells me he's a private person, doesn't want to go
Starting point is 00:57:39 deeply into it. But what I understand would be he isn't comfortable being around a bunch of people on the show. We've seen husbands do this before. He doesn't want to be around these people on the show. The last moment that he saw of Wendy and Eddie was them talking about T.J., which was probably embarrassing and people came back to him. Fine, I get it. It just doesn't make any sense in this context. You don't have to bring any of that up to Tia.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Just stay on, he was uncomfortable, didn't want to go, we made up an excuse. Boom. Instead, you're just making the lies worse. Yeah, I know. And then you're also shouldering Timo's lies. So it's weird. You're like, he didn't leave. It's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Oh, yeah. Oh, now you're really lying because none of this is true. And Tia doesn't really care. She's not good at lying either, which also is part of the charm. It just, it's not worth it. What you're doing right now is not worth it, especially because Tia would have squashed this. If you just said right here right now, what she said, we declined. That would have been it.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That would have been cool. But then you try to, like you said, shoulder Timo's lies. Tia calls you out for that. You try to wheel and deal and make it into something else. Tia calls you out on that. So then, because Tia calls you out, because you're coming at her, Tia gets activated, and then you kick her out. Yeah. That's exactly how it happens.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Not good. Not great. Yeah. Bad move, Stacey. Yeah. This one's not going to help you in the long. And everything else has been a whatever kind of a wash. This was a moment that you should have smoothed it over, gotten with Tia.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You guys could have been a great team. And here we are. It, like, further alienates Tia, who, that's, why it sucks so much, and obviously Stacey's not privy to those conversations that we have in confessionals, but Tia's willing to move on. And Tia has a good head on her shoulders as far as how this show works. That's how you operate. If it's something innocuous and something stupid that someone did or said, you can move on pretty quickly, and you'll be ingratiated with the fans, because that's what we love the most. We don't want to get stuck on dumb bullshit.
Starting point is 00:59:39 But now she's getting offended and then going after Tia. It's just, it's not a good look. It was the worst play possible. This show, should have just been a really nice moment for you launching your brand, whatever, and then sitting down and getting rid of, like, you had a conversation with Ashley. If she brings it up again the next time you see her, reference that conversation. But now Ashley also has more ammunition because she was now part of that conversation that you have with Tia. Yeah. So it's not going to end well for you in the next couple episodes, I would imagine.
Starting point is 01:00:07 No, and the way that she went about it with Tia trying to say that she's doing too much, trying to her. It's like she's not doing any of these things. she's not you know you're you're labeling her as the tryhard in the group that doesn't fit in and she clocks you you're here for a year and you don't fit what the fuck are you talking about so huge miscalculation from stacey we'll chalk it up to a sophomore blunder sophomore blunder it's gonna that's gonna sting that one's gonna have some some fallout for sure what should have been a an alliance has now turned into cannon fodder let's get some questions First one up here.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Oh, this is fun from Hotcakes 1987. My male co-worker slash watcher of Potomics said toodles to me today instead of goodbye. I love it. Love that. That's a good way to do that. Yeah, it was a great line. Toodle do. Toodle do.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Do or Tootiloo. I believe it's Tutaloo. That's what I thought. Tootle do. Kind of funny. It was great. Stacey. I love it.
Starting point is 01:01:10 From Petrovann, did Ashley and her sister have a script? their scenes were so fake. You know. Ashley and Stacy, no. I think that that was genuine. Ashley and her sister. They very well might have practiced. Yeah, they may have talked about what they're going to talk about, I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:01:27 because it's sensitive material. Yeah. How much do we really want to divulge on camera? How much do we want to talk about things? Don't get carried away. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, that's a part of course. I think her sisters' emotions and everything were genuine.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I want to take that from her. And then the last one here, and I'll let you take the floor from L.E. it from Orlando. Steele, will you tell us the story of how you bought your wife's ring? Oh, yeah. Is it a good story? I feel like I just put you on the spot if it's just like, I went to a shop and... No, it's a family heirloom.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There you go. Yeah, it was my great, great-grandmother's ring, and my aunt owns a jewelry store in Chestnut Hill, Chaston Hill jewelers. If you need jewelry, great stuff there. She has phenomenal style, phenomenal taste. There's a lot of Yermin-esque things, but they're not totally. She does have said David Yervyn stuff, but they have, it's this other company or jeweler that makes it. And it's got like hints of Yerman.
Starting point is 01:02:23 It's not quite as expensive, but they're really cool pieces. Anyway, I hit her up and it was like, hey, I need a ring. And then my grandmother replied to me and said, well, I might have something for you. And it was a family heirloom that I then had fitted at my aunts. And then on the Green Street Bridge in Mannyunk, got down on one knee. There you go. I heard it here first. Mid-COVID.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Mid-COVID. Mid-COVID. Yep. So, yeah, that's how, nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. Nope. Well, we didn't get a lot of questions on this episode. I wonder if people even watched it.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I don't know. Is he watching Heather Gay talk about football? Whatever the fuck that was. Yeah. Yeah, missed opportunity, Bravo. We could do better there. You know what? Maybe tap us in?
Starting point is 01:03:06 I don't know. God, could you imagine? I feel like that's what we were made. When I posted it last night, a lot of people were just commenting on the fact that we would never watch that for an Eagles game. No, no. No, we wouldn't. I'd be losing my mind.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But also, if we were in West's position and we were covering an Eagles game. We would put our microphones down and go watch the game. Yeah, and then we'd never be asked to do it again. Right. But we'd be on the sideline. But if there's a bridge to make this thing work, hello. Yeah, we'll be consultants and then also do it. We've been here for three years waiting.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yep. This had us all over it. Yep. Let us help. We can do this, guys. Together. Together. But that's all I got.
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