Bros & Shows - Traitor on Traitor Violence (The Traitors s03ep04 Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

What's up Bros? We watched episode 4 of The Traitors and what else can we say but this show rocks. The episode starts out with the 'short list' of 3 to be up for murder. Entering the coffins are Ciara, Nikki and Jeremy. The morning reveals that Jeremy got whacked. Now all eyes are on Ciara and Nikki as potential traitors, playing right into the hands of the Traitors. Dylan still has his sights set on Bob the Drag Queen. After a humbling mission of carrying statues up a hill for shields, a comment from Bob the Drag Queen leaves Boston Rob irritated. B Rob sets his sets on his fellow traitor and starts to point fingers in his direction. Despite all the confidence in the world Bob the Drage Queen is eliminated at the round table. Some believe Boston Rob is a hero for finally ousting a traitor, but others are skeptical of his confidence in revealing Bob the Drag Queen. Teams are starting to take shape and alliances are being formed, but who will betray who as the Traitors convene for the first time since killing one of their own... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It quite possibly could be. This is the first one. And look, we talk about a lot of Bravo shows where we're excited to watch them every week. I'm excited to watch this live. I don't want spoilers on any social media. I get pumped while watching, especially this episode. This was one of the most riveting episodes. And we'll get into the discourse of people talking online because I feel differently.

I don't know if you saw a lot of it. But I'm pumped. I had such a good time watching this episode. I try to stay off socials with this one. Smart. i i want to keep my my head clear so i i think that i'm navigating better than than everybody else i'm sure i'm wrong those and shows i got to have me my pros and shows bros and shows i got to have me my bros and shows good afternoon everybody welcome back to another episode of bros and shows

i am your co-hostile russell joined as always by the one and only shoot her about gutar what's up dude I'm waiting for you to eventually call me, like, faithful Goots or something, but I don't think you're going to do it. I think, or Traitor Goots. I actually really like that one. I'm old to you. I'm actually really like that one. Yeah, look, I don't know if you guys know this, but we're talking about the traders today. And boy, oh, boy, it's been a long week for us.

There are a lot of shows to cover. This one is just going to be pure fun from start to finish, I think, with us. Yeah, I don't mind doing, like, now we don't mind doing any of them. This week has been nuts. I realized why, though, because I was trying to put it together. I'm like, fuck, we've had like two Monday, two Tuesday, one Wednesday, two Thursday, one today. So it's eight. We've done eight.

I realized it's the traders, the three drop of the traders is what smoked us because they dropped three at once. We wanted to get it out quickly. Oh, okay. That makes sense. See, now I was looking forward thinking, oh, fuck, are we going to have to do this every week for the next like three weeks until I guess Salt Lake is done? That's what Deb said. She's like, man, this is going to be a tough run. I was like, yeah, dude, this is a lot.

It's a lot of content. Then I was like trying to figure out how to map out the schedule to make it a little bit, little lighter or easier. And then I was like, oh, wait a minute. We had the, I just went through it in my head like, I went, I went through it in my head for next week. I'm like, oh, yeah, probably like two Monday, one, one, one, okay, that's actually not bad at all. I don't know what we're complaining about it. Back to normal. It was, it was simply the.

triple drop from traders is what threw a wrenched everything but again when we've i guess if you want to call it vent about this don't get a twisted we are fully grateful for what we do and having the opportunity to do this like we love talking about these shows it was just like it was a lot it was a lot of content and we wanted to make sure we got it all out there for uh for our sweet baby birds so you guys have our faithfuls yeah our faithfuls because we're the traitors yeah we're the traders in this scenario i guess so or no i'd like to think we're more of like Alan Cummings. Both of us? That's what I would like to think. Yeah.

We're the Cummings. You and I. Careful. Don't disparage his name, you fucking traitor. It's getting better. It is getting better. Or maybe I should do Sean Connery the whole time. No, you've been watching a lot more. I guess you're switching over to Instagram Reels. You're watching a lot of how to speak Scottish. No, it's just the one that hasn't popped up since. I would love, if my algorithm just turns into, it's like music, food.

And if it turns into how to do languages, I think I got the nail on the head there. But we can't waste any more time. It was a longer episode this week as well. So let's jump right into Traders episode number four. And at the end of last week, we saw the traders going into the bookcase, do a little secret talking to get their short list together. Obviously, I assumed that some people would figure out. I didn't realize that a lot of people didn't know that that was a room. They just thought it was a bookcase.

I think a lot of people had no idea it was a room, but when we see a little bit later, when Dylan's like, what the hell is this? Oh, it's open and he walks in, he said something is different, something has changed. And that made me think that maybe they knew that that room existed and he was trying to compare it to what it looked like before. But I was really confused by that. I was of the thinking that nobody knew that this room existed. A lot of people didn't because DQ Bob when they get to the, I forget where, when he's

talking about the room, I was at breakfast. he's like well we heard there was a room so we all wanted to go see it which threw people off the scent so yeah some people knew about it other people didn't and gabby whilst walking by saw the the door open the bookcase moved it opened and she just heard daniel's voice yeah so in my head i'm like well that's very damning i didn't think enough emphasis was placed on that i didn't think people talked about that i think gabby is playing a really good game she had the wherewithal to jump out of the way she's like i'm not going to get caught here by myself because if they are traders they're going to go after me they're going to be like oh she knows what

we were doing let's get her out tonight before she can talk to anybody so also but like this is the thing this game has so many goddamn nuances that it's like okay if they did see her they can't kill her on the spot she can go run and tell her friends and then if her friends know what's going on and they say oh she heard daniel's voice she saw daniel daniel saw her and then she it's murder that night. It's like, uh, yeah, I think it's Danielle. So it is really weird. You don't want to put yourself out like that in either sense. It's, it's just crazy. It's a mind fuck. The whole thing. The whole thing is, and it got like gets me jumping back and forth. Like, how would I play that? How would I play that? I will say, I think Gabby's playing

a smart game. I think she is still. Because she is smart. Like, she's intelligent. And I think that she's letting people assume otherwise because she's just kind of playing aloof sometimes. She's not getting fully involved. You know, she's grouped up with the bambies. She's in the bambies. Yeah. I think people underestimate the Bambi's. I think they know that. Like the Bambis, I believe, is one of the tougher groups in this show. And I think they're underestimated. I think people don't know that.

And I think that they know they're underestimated, which makes them even more dangerous because they're almost an afterthought. I think they can make some big moves. And I think we might see that from them. That's, yeah, they're just kind of looked at as like collateral damage, essentially, where it's like, yeah, we can maybe take one of them out and it'll just throw everybody off the cent because it's a random person. Right. And it's like, okay, well, if you're group.

is thought of as random people, then you're pretty safe, honestly. I think so. I think that they're doing a good job. But as you said, they went in the room. I thought Dylan, like, when he was at the shelf, I'm like, Jesus, you're literally pointing at it. You just don't know. Like, if you open that little.

Great camera work. It was phenomenal camera work. And I think there was stationary cameras. So it's even more impressive. So, yeah, I was concerned he was going to find a little box, but he doesn't. And he says, God, or too late. I'm like, no, you're not. It's right there.

Just reach out, open it. Because I would love to know what that would do. now one big omission from last week okay again everybody this is our first run-through of this show i don't know how many people reached out and goes too traitors can't tell people they're traitors that's against the whole game i didn't know that that's why i posited that and said are you allowed to do that i know now you are not that that is not allowed it's not that you're not allowed i think that so no you're firmly not allowed really it's like part of the show yeah i like i Because in this next scene, when we have the three of them, Jeremy yells out, I'll work with you if you save me.

And I'm like, well, that kind of goes in line with what we were saying last week. So are we lost? We are. Yes. Why are you so quick to say that we're wrong? You can't do that. We're supposed to be right. It's part of the show.

You are not, once you take an oath as a traitor, I guess. That's like, it's like all the people pointing out because we got so pissed off about the doors last week. They're like, they told them. It's like, well, I didn't see that. and tell them so it's stupid and also like yeah a part of us was like they probably weren't allowed to do something but we're going to make a big deal about it yeah because it was funny it's funny to us but anyway like you said we get the three people in the coffin the short list reveal jeremy nicky sierra we also get announced alan goes through the whole process like they had to do this in front

of everybody so everyone's looking around like who was sketchy who didn't we see all that stuff it creates more turmoil for everybody but jeremy nicky sierra everybody get in the box and we get one more confessional from Jeremy trying to point the finger at Danielle and he's like I know it's her that's why I'm in this box right now and everyone gets to say their final words I don't think there's a correct way to do this because if you take the Sierra approach I'm not a fucking traitor and I'm going to hunt you the fuck down whatever she said okay Nikki goes in and she says I'm a faithful I'm a faithful I'm a faithful don't kill me knows I'm a faithful. And then Jeremy goes with, if you let me out of here, I will help you

traders. So you get three different approaches. And, you know, that's what the funniest part that comes in later when Derek's trying to do the detective thing. He's like, well, that's just the move. It's like, well, you could, there's an argument to be made for each person why it's sketchy, they said it and why it was a good move that they said it. Yeah, no, I would fully agree with that. And then touching on Derek, too, your police skills are way off, buddy. If you're just to start pointing to somebody because they were using profanity. and you were pointing out of faithful the entire time. Yeah, exactly.

I'm not back good of a cop, Derek. I feel bad for the people that you pointed. I also think, like, that's going to come back to bite him because he's a detective. He makes it known he's a detective. And that was his whole game plan was to be like, it's got to be Sierra because of this. Well, they still don't know, obviously, but like if and when Sierra gets voted off and they find out that she was a faithful, it'll be chaos. It's going to come down on him a little bit more, I think. Yeah, but we get to bedtime and the traders arrived.

and DQ Bob thinks that they have everybody fooled. We got everybody. They're running around in circles with their heads cut off. They have no idea what's going on. And they're trying to figure out the right move. Who are we going to kill in these three boxes

to point fingers elsewhere? And there's a lot of ways you could go with this, right? Before we move on to the next scene, who are you killing out of these three? If you're traitor goots, who are you killing? I do still, I think that Jeremy is the smart move. I think you have to get rid of the good game players. I mean, we saw it in Jeremy's confessional when he's talking about.

He knows it's Danielle. So if he's, if he lives, he's going after Danielle. Yeah. That's what happened last week, too. You got Tony out of the game who everybody was afraid of. If you know he's a faithful, it doesn't matter if you're trying to like, there's certain people you try to throw off the scent. It's like, yeah, you might want to just randomly kill, uh, Sierra. You might want to randomly kill Nikki just to throw people off the scent and be like, well, that was bizarre and random.

Why would they get rid of that person? And then it just makes everybody think a lot deeper. It doesn't have to be that deep. Get rid of the people that you're afraid of that think the way that this game is supposed to be played, which would be a Tony, a Jeremy, a Boston Rob, as we say, things like that. That's what you want to go after. You want to get them out because you're going to leave these people stranded who haven't played a game like this before. Leave somebody like Tom Sandoval out there who thinks that everybody's a traitor except for the actual traitors.

Leave Tom and Robin because they are pointing fingers everywhere. Like in the morning after, Robbins, like, it's Nikki and Jeremy. They're the traitors. I know they're the traitors guys. and Gabby and Dolo, Criselle, and Robin are all sitting there talking. And that's when Gabby reveals the whole bookcase thing with Danielle. And Robin's like, no, definitely not her.

It's definitely not her. And then points the finger at Gabby saying that she's overreacting. I'm like, you're off on all of, like you're pointing. Luckily, nobody is listening to Robin though. That's not,

but I think that's, I guess the well situation, the well situation maybe, but DQ Bob started that. So it's like, I understand that. But I think that when you have somebody no matter who it is that confidently proclaiming all the time you can say what you want

about robin i don't think she's great at this game but as i said last week she has conviction she always has conviction and i think that will push people in different directions for the faithful overall that's that's bad yeah that's bad when you have a vocal person that is pointing you in 18 different directions and doesn't know who is who but everyone's trying to figure everything out meanwhile caroline goes to a confessional she's still not being heard and i think that's a big misstep although i do agree with the choice they made i think that she's a better player than they're giving her credit for and i think what happened is daniel has taken hold of everything at least up until this point yeah daniel is steamrolling rob is still figuring it out and it's it's kind of funny too

because like maybe we don't know how long this has been is this like this is a day-by-day activity so this is like yeah so rob west and derrick are still trying to get their feet wet. Even Rob as a trader is still trying to figure things out. He's trying to figure out exactly what the game play is and what he wants to do. So he's letting the people who have been there since day one figure it out. He's also

scoping out the traitors. He's trying to figure them out. He wants to take over. He wants to take over. He wants everybody to play by his rules. And right now it's not working that way, but he's not really being vocal about it. Carolyn is very vocal in her confessionals, but not

in the traders meetings. She's not talking. She's not voicing what she wants to do she's just kind of packing down tried she gets knocked down every time maybe she has spoken up they're like nah whatever it's dq bob and daniel take over the conversation boston rob is tactically quiet yeah and then caroline in the first two episodes did speak up and then they just disregard her so i think at this point she's like lowest in the pecking order just because of how it was set up because you have two strong personalities in daniel and and dq bob but it also isolates caroline too because she said this and i i do think it was a little much when she's like,

survivor people are her family. And she starts crying. It's like, all right, come on. It's just a game, relax. But it's also the psychology of these shows.

I suppose, yeah. But I think what she's really thinking is this kind of isolates her. As we saw in the beginning, everybody from each other shows. You guys all know each other. You guys are all talking. Maybe you can get to a point where you can team up.

So now it kind of isolates Carolyn. Like the traders have to think not only as traitors, like, yes, we have our own team. But as we see later, you know, you can potentially be fall victim to that. But you still need your own team when you get back to the

faithfuls when you're portraying yourself as a faithful and getting rid of somebody like Jeremy who trusts Carolyn at this point that's going to take away from her so I think that's also what she's thinking of where they're like no no collateral damage it doesn't matter it's like well you got rid of another survivor person I've got no more survivor people here except for Rob who I don't trust because it's Boston Robb so I'm sitting here on an island by myself not a survivor joke well it is a survivor joke actually I meant that yeah good pun good pun thanks but they they ask all right who went in the bookcase and this This was Gabby's move to be like, if Danielle doesn't speak up, she's definitely a traitor.

Danielle figures that out quickly. And she's like, well, I was in there with Dylan. And then DQ Bob goes to Daniel's defense says, well, that's when I heard that there was a room. We all heard there was a room. So we wanted to go check it out. And then Gabby goes to confession, he goes, damn, immediately debunked. I'm like, no, it's not. You watch that thing open.

That's different. The only people that spoke were traitors. I mean, Dylan said, yes, I was in there. But I think we just missed it. We had just missed whatever happened in there. Danielle and DQ Bob were like, oh, yeah, you know, we were in there. It's like, no one else said that. No, not one other person.

And I was like, that doesn't debunk it. If anything, hone in on these two because they're the only ones talking. Once again, these two have been talking more than anybody the entire time. So let's focus in on that part. But you see the underestimating of a Gabby with Danielle saying, it's going to be a girl next door and like says because she's cute. She's not a tough opponent. It's like, well, that's a stupid oversight. And I think that's what's perfect with the band.

group people are going to overlook them and they shouldn't because that group is intelligent they're going to take somebody out when they least expected and i think that because they're just flying under the radar that's going to be if nicky can make it through the next couple of rounds i think they have a good shot if she gets whacked i think it's going to cause chaos amongst that group but we get to the traders and their vote they're all standing around the coffin trying to figure out who to vote for daniel brings up jeremy because he he has been walking around telling people it's daniel and that was one of his, probably his biggest mistake was he was too vocal about. He told too many people about Danielle and Danielle was too many allies as of right now.

So he kind of shot himself in the foot. And once again, you get Carolyn eye rolling. And I agree with Jeremy. This was the right decision. I think you and I have a similar game plan. I'm getting rid of anybody I think is a strategist. Anybody that plays these games for a living, get the fuck out of here. I'm taking out the strongest, even if they're not.

the strong is just on paper let's go with resume all right you've done the type of show like this smell you later i'm going to keep people that don't have this background on the show as long as i can that seems like the best move for me but once everyone finds out that jeremy's dead now they're trying to do some detective work okay so when you're in the coffins nicky like what happened how she's like well there's at least two but possibly three i'm like well we're off there and one of them was light footed i was like okay that's a good one so you know there's at least one woman it's not all dudes okay so we've we've limited that a little bit but it's definitely not bob it's like was that daniel that said that uh no it wasn't no it wasn't daniel that said that but like

the thinking is that it's not bob because and i realize this because every time that somebody knocks really hard on the door in the morning after they're always like up there's bob oh yeah that's right he's so loud right yeah so that's i think that was the thinking but it's like okay well that's just one of them doesn't mean it's not bob just means that the one One that went down there and put the nail in isn't Bob. Had lighter feet, yeah. So, unfortunately, they all fall for pretty much the most basic trick they're trying to do. They're going to assume that one of these coffins, at least one of them, is a traitor.

Which is what they wanted to do until Boston Rob said, no, that doesn't make any sense. Let's not do that. Right. I know. And we both agreed with that. That would have been a dumb. There's no reason to put yourselves in harm's way yet when you have this many contestants. You don't have to throw people off the scent.

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Well, good luck with the search. Because we're having fun here on Adam does movies. Each and every week, I hit the big blockbusters, I cover the streamers, and I even toss in some movie news for fun. Check out the show on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, on YouTube, and hopefully we can do movies together. Hot. So they were smart to leave everybody out, and it does get people pointing at each other. Now, all the faithfuls are feuding, and for whatever reason, they're locked in on Sierra, and I guess it's because of what she said to try to protect herself.

But I thought that was good. I thought that was more like, I'm going to fucking get you guys. You better kill me because if you don't. I'm coming for you. I think it's based off of pretty much what Danielle said, where it's like it could be somebody that you're not suspecting. It could be a girl next door. And then when she said that at the coffin and started screaming saying, you know, fuck you,

I'm going to hunt you down. They're like, all right, that's a little bit of an overreaction. Maybe we look at her. It's like I would have that in the back of my mind, but maybe not immediately try to vote her out. I didn't really make a whole lot of sense. I would be watching her. I would be watching Nikki.

The reasons for Nikki potentially being a traitor were like some of the dumbest things I've ever heard from West. He's like, well, she has a performance background and she makes a living being extra and she's not being extra right now. She is a WWE wrestler. Of course, when she's in the ring, it is played up. There's no way you can sustain that in real life. This is just her real personality. This is who she is. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard was he's like she's not being performative now.

It's like because when she's doing her job, it's a performance. And I was so disappointed in West too, because Wes is usually so good at these games. And by the end of the episode, he is really good. But right now, I'm like, what are you doing? Like maybe it's just that they have to do something. Now, obviously with a round table coming up and you're thinking about the mission and getting a shield and stuff. So that kind of protects you for certain things. But you have to think something.

And I guess they're now like, especially the new guys, they're thinking they have to actually voice their opinion. All right. You know what? It's time that I stop sitting back and I start doing stuff. So maybe that's what it was. And look, I mean, if you're wrong, you're wrong. There's still so many people left that it's like, all right, we lose another faithful. It's going to be frustrating.

But at least we're dwindling the numbers and we're getting closer. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah. And I think another part of it is if you look at the people that you could say have a background in this or are playing the game fairly well up until this point. Yeah. One thing they all share is conviction.

Like when they get locked in on something like, I'm going to see this to the end right you're wrong because they're not looking if you look in too many directions you're going to get lost so if you hone in i've noticed that so each person that like seems to know what they're doing a little bit when they get locked in on someone they they go for that they're trusting their gut and i guess especially with this many people maybe that's like the right way to do it i don't know we'll find out but tom says to the group i'd like to say something dramatic pause dramatic pause dramatic pause dramatic pause to the point that people are asking if he needs a glass of water and he says I think Sierra got recruited, everybody.

Robin buys it immediately, of course. Rob and Tom are a formidable duo. Yeah. They are just going to throw everybody off of everybody else's scent, but that's when you get the conversation with Wes, Danielle, and Iver, and about Nikki. Of course, Iver agrees because he gets to vote for a woman again, and that gets him all jacked up to get all the ladies out of the house. But my favorite duo that has arisen from this cast.

is Dolores and Dylan. Oh, yeah. I love these two together. And they're sitting there talking, and Dylan brings up, he's had this theory for a while, and he's done a good job because he raised concerns,

then he faded back. To the point that DQ Bob wasn't really pressing. It didn't matter because they woke up. And like, yeah, but day to day, it's important. And the next day,

after he had questioned DQ Bob a little bit, the following day, Bob doesn't really push him at all. He doesn't press him. He kind of leaves him alone. I'm like, all right, he's skated by that one. But now he's trying to rally troops very quietly. He does it with Dolores.

Dolores agrees that Bob looks suspicious. He's an amazing actor. He knows how to put on a performance. Dolores is getting her feet under, by the way. I didn't wish it would. I got so excited when I saw the two of them at the bar. And then I realized, again, with the timing of this whole thing, the last time we talked to Dylan about Bob, he was saying he's going to take a full step back.

He's got to reevaluate, maybe start talking other people. But he's going to watch Bob because he's still convinced within less than 24 hours he's like by the way delores still on bob i trust you now it's like hey he's very trusting that's fair i like it because i know that dolores is a faithful so i like the two of them together and i also just like seeing that there's a housewife still in the mix that's just kind of floating by nobody's she's on no one's radar at all she's not getting any weird looks she's just doing something just paying attention and now she's got a team going and i love it yeah i do too i do too but we get to the mission and we're carrying Easter Island statues up a hill.

Everybody has a head with their name on it, but there's only 10 bodies. So to get a shield for elimination, you need to have your head on top of one of these statues. Now, there's a few people that are under the impression that there should be some strategy. Some people need shields. Fuck everybody. Fuck all of you. I'm grabbing my head and I'm running to the top of the hill and I'm putting it down and waiting for body i'm protecting myself i don't care about anybody else here's the problem too they need

fucking prize money they have squandered so many opportunities for prize money they left what was a 40 000 in the first mission they didn't get through the maze in the second up 20 000 20 000 there so like they need to get prize money the only prize money they've gotten so far is from the viking ship so they need to be able to press through and get as much as they can so that's part of it yes i agree with you put your head up there put it next to a base and then it you know you have a really good chance, even if you're helping somebody out, you still have a really good chance of getting your head on that statute just because it might come down to the point where we've got nine up there. We've got the 10th body and there's only one head left. So you might just luck

into it. But there's enough time here where you can still do that. My thinking on this was run up, put your head up there, grab somebody else's head. Who cares? Be nice. Grab one of the girls' heads who's struggling or, you know, we saw Bob H struggling to. Like be nice to those people. Anybody who looks like they're struggling, go help them because it's going to go a long way. And if you're not prioritizing your own head. Yeah, you're going to get a couple of weird looks where it's like, oh, he doesn't care if he gets a shield. He might be a traitor. But most of the time, I feel like a nicety would go a little further where it's like, thank you so much. I, you know, you're all, I got to approach. That's Derek's approach. He takes the approach. I'm going to help

everybody else out. No, Tom, but that's the least surprising thing ever. And someone says, like, he's so selfish. It's like, yeah, he is. He's the most selfish. He is, but he also isn't because at the beginning of that mission, I'm like, just fucking grab something and run up there. Why are you guys sitting there talking? We need to strategize. I'm like, fuck that. Well, it's because he doesn't give a shit. And that's something that'll go against them too.

It's like, just leave it. Like, who cares? Everybody grabs something and we'll run up there, get as much shit up there as possible, and then we'll figure out the heads at the end of it. Or, you know, as we see, you're just going to start putting heads on bodies. Who cares? Yeah. We need the money anyway.

Exactly. But watching Bob Harper struggle up the, I, like, I don't think you understand how much of a big Yeah, it was tough. Yeah. He was like. I just always have, and then it's us getting older as well and like seeing people that you like idolize when you're like, I thought Bob was like, like he says invincible and he had a heart attack seven years ago, 20% chance of surviving it. He did survive it. But watching him get humbled by this hill and watching his reaction to it was so emotional for me too because I'm watching. I'm like, oh, Bob, you're still strong, dude. You still got it. He's like, it's just adjusting to like the new normal and humbling. And I'm like, fuck, man, that was really sad. really sad because I was a huge fan of his for a very long time. But here's

who's safe. DQ. Bob, Rob, Tom, Bob H, Dylan, Dolo, Creschelle, Danielle, Brittany. Did I get everybody? I think I missed one, but... No, I think that's good. Did I get him all? Yeah. So that's...

Lever, maybe. I don't even know. I think he got his on there. Did he get what says? That's 10, if that's correct. So those are who's protected. Obviously, the big standout Sierra. Right. Should have, by the way.

I don't know why she wasn't gutting to get her head up that hill as fast as humanly possible. Like she knows there's a target. DQ Bob ran past her and goes, who cares? Everybody already thinks you're a traitor. It doesn't matter. Yeah. And she was like, what the fuck? People think I'm a traitor?

He's like, yes, bitch. Yeah. But then at the very end of it, when they're deliberating for the last head, Sierra's, you know, she tries a little bit. I'll give it to her, but she doesn't try that hard. Tries to get her head up there. And as Rob walks by, he goes, nobody thinks you're a traitor. Who cares?

And it's like, well, wait a minute. Bob just told me that everybody thinks I'm a traitor. Now, Rob's saying nobody thinks you're a traitor. People do think you're a trader, unfortunately. Everyone thinks you're a traitor. Everyone thinks that you need to be safe. Yeah. And here's the other thing that would go a long way.

If you're one of, if you're Nikki or Sierra, neither of them were safe. If you're Nikki or Sierra, you should be gunning for that. You should be trying really hard and yelling, can I please get my head up there? I need to be safe for tonight because everybody thinks I'm a traitor. That's very faithful activity. That's very faithful behavior. So that's what I was thinking. But, you know, but that's the great.

part about this show is you there are reasons to support a certain way of thinking and there's reasons that that certain way of thinking is wrong there's so many different ways to play this game that something i i could be sure about something like oh this is what i would do and somebody does that and they get scrutinized like that shit yeah so it's it's really interesting but dq bob is they're all standing there i don't think that he was trying to point a finger at boston rob i think he was just trying to to point fingers around and just create more confusion but that doesn't really matter what your intention was because it's boston rob this guy is legendary and he's nobody cutthroat and nobody said anything about the new guys like yeah people are suspect

but there's so much going on right now and you're now what like oh you're o for two at the roundtable you got wells and you got tony out neither were actual traders and obviously you lost a lot of other people So, like, you're losing people every night. They're thinking about everybody in the house. They're not really keying in on the new guys thinking, oh, it could be one of them. Nobody's really brought that up. So the fact that Bob brought this up out of nowhere seemingly was terrible. It was similar to, like, putting a traitor in the coffin.

I thought it was the same level of like, too soon. It's too soon. You should have saved it because all you did was put a target on your back up against arguably the most experienced player. And he didn't realize that at all. He thought it was good gameplay. he thought it was throwing people off the trail it was going to just create chaos and everybody was going to vote for different people and then nobody was actually going to get a traitor at the end of the day and he was so comfortable too it was so fucking funny he's going back he's like nobody i'm going to sleep

great tonight i've got a shield nobody thinks i'm a traitor i love this but rob's fucking pissed rob's living he's he's going to me he just put a target on all of our backs west and derrick are like oh fuck he did didn't he yeah okay we got to get this guy out i don't want to i'm not deal with this he says we might have to do something tonight got to take out the head of the dragon bob the drag queen i was like oh fuck you done pissed off boston rob i got so excited by this too so they're on the ride back in boston rob visibly upset and he keeps up bringing up to dekub bob brings him up to derrick and he says we got to blindside this dude tonight but i'm not going to make it a public battle he's going to go around and put things in people's ears now when he said that

I'm thinking he's going to tiptoe around like a mouse and be like, not really. He starts to do that and then people start coming into the room while he's saying it, and it turns into him telling pretty much everybody that we're going after DQ. He was going to room to room. I know, but not before him and Dylan have the conversation where he's like, we're going to do this. And this is important because as we know, Dylan has been a little timid to speak up because he's

a phrase to get a target on his back. So now what Rob is doing, and I think he knows it, and that becomes more apparent at the end, is gaining Dylan's trust. Yes. Because he's like, I got you, dude. I know you can't do this. I'm going to do this for you. I'm going to get everybody on your team.

You get my back. I got your back. And he's like, oh, thank God, B. Rob. Thank God for you. Yeah, because you can't sit at that round table the day before and not think that Dylan walked out of there even more suspicious than he was before. Because he was sitting there like, come on. Is nobody going to vote for him?

Are you fucking kidding me? Fine. I'm going to take a step back. He's like, not really taking a step back. He's already talking to Dolo. So Boston Rob made the right move. Go right to Dylan. And this is what I'm talking about, where it's just pure cinema.

This is starting to turn into such an incredible show, just a great showing. As soon as Boston Rob gets out of the car, I'm like, go to Dylan. Please go to Dylan. Go talk to him right now because he's suspicious and you'll be able to get at least two more people on your side. What I was curious about was, is he even going to tell Danielle and Carolyn, or is he just going to blindside the traders and make them get into some sort of weird situation? You have to tell at least one of them. Yeah. I didn't know he's going to tell all of, like, both of them.

Obviously, he's not going to tell Bob. But, Jesus, banana. But yeah, you have to get some support from a, at least one trader. So he goes around. He goes to Iver, or Dylan goes to Iver, and Iver goes, what about Nikki? Come on. We got to stick to this lady thing. We got to keep getting the ladies off of this show.

And then West tells Sierra to go for Nikki. B. Rob goes to Chrisel to tell her about DQ Bob, which Dev thought. was a misstep because I think so too. Oh, she's going to run and tell Gabby and the bandies about this. That's going to look bad. And I think that she would also go and tell Danielle because Gabby doesn't think Daniel's a traitor. Right.

So now. I also thought they were going to go right to DQ Bob because Bob, for whatever reason, didn't hear it. And that, I think, is the most amazing and remarkable thing. When we hear people talking and yeah, I know Bob, like, a way that he's been playing the game, if you're looking at him as a faithful, he's been boisterous, he's been loud. He's been trying to like run all the missions, make sure everyone. he's in line. He's been showing whatever his emotion is, giving his opinion whenever he wants,

but he doesn't really have a team. And it's kind of weird when you think about it this way. If you're looking at it from like 5,000 feet in the air, you're looking down at Bob and you're like, well, you don't have a crew. Everybody likes you. Everybody really enjoys you, but you don't have a team of your own. All of these other clicks are kind of forming. And yeah, the new guys are kind of floating around. But there are clicks forming and Bob's not in any of them except for the traders. So that's why I was still surprised that nobody ran and told him a Creschelle or a Gabby or whoever found out about it. No one went and ran and told him because he would have had a panic attack and he would have went right after Rob or probably Dylan if they didn't say who it was.

But Rob was doing all the dirty work himself. Yeah. I was curious though if Danielle had caught wind before B. Rob had told her about it. Yeah. Would she have gone to Carolyn and been like, hey, we got to get Boston. Rob the fuck up out of here. That's what I thought might have happened. And I would have loved to, I know we're going to have trader feuds now, which I love. I'm glad we're getting into it. I do think that they, they shot themselves in the foot. I think DQ Bob took a misstep, didn't think about it, tried to, like, we talked about that already. I think we got the traders out too soon for the trader's team. Right. But individually as traders, the ones that remain, it's going to play really well for them because we get to the roundtable. And right before that, the traders all convene and B. Rob's like, we got to take out DQ Bob. And. And. And And Daniel's like, yeah, totally, not tonight, though. And he's like, oh, no, no, tonight. Definitely tonight. She's like, no, no, we're not doing that tonight because she still thinks that she's in charge of everything.

She's like, well, that's not the plan. We had this whole plan that we have to do Nikki because it points everybody at Sierra. Then they're going to vote Sierra off tomorrow. That's our plan. We're sticking to our plan. She's like, you know what? You're right. High five.

See you. Caroline, come here. We're voting for DQ Bob. And so, wait, what? Like, what is just poor woman. She's like, it's too soon. Let her get involved. Yeah.

And you know what? you could argue that it is too soon because I think as well if you let it run there's other ways to go about it but you went up against boston rob and i don't think that he likes being tested i don't think he likes having a target on nobody does but i think he takes it personally yeah and he's like fuck this i'm getting you out of you're gonna go up against me dude already no no no get the fuck out of here so we get to the round table and they had to show poor dq bob walking like i'm not concerned at all I'm not worried even than the slightest because i got my shield nobody suspects me everybody but he loves me because I'm such a lovable person. So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to stroll through this. I'm not even going to talk. And it goes south really quickly. Wes leads off with his whole spiel about Nikki because of the coffins. It seems so obvious that I was actually, I was unimpressed.

I'm unimpressed with Wes thus far. I know he at the end, he cleans it up a little bit, but he's got such a reputation. Like even I know who Wes is. I've never watched his show, but I know who he is. I was expecting better because he goes in the show. And he did say, like, if I, get a shield, I'm going to go 110% because I'm going to stick my neck out and I know I'll be safe because nobody's suspecting that I'm a traitor. I was surprised though because when they're walking away

from that the Easter Island mission, if you want to call it that, when Bob called everybody out and Rob goes to the new guys and says he just put a target on our backs, you would think maybe West would think twice about this. Like, uh, maybe I don't stick my neck out. If people are starting to already suspect that the new guys have it, then going after. But then again, that could fuck him up though, because he does make the statement at the end, who would know that somebody was 100% a traitor, a traitor? And he's going to go back and think about, okay, the newbies, because you know all three newcomers, the two that are faithful are going to assume that one of the three are also a

traitor. Like they're going to just think, it's the natural progression. Like we said episode one, I would have immediately been like, oh, Boston Rob's back. He's definitely a traitor because we fucked them over before he got the way of the game. But you would think that the other two newbies would keep that in their mind. And then if Wes is approached by Boston Rob out of the gate, like, hey, man, they're pointing the finger at us. DQ Bob's pointing the finger at us. We got to get him the fuck out of here.

Now, Wes is going to question whether or not a trader would have known about it. He's going to start to think about Boston Rob, potentially. Yeah, you would think that. That would be interesting to watch and see if that anything comes to that. But Nikki defends herself. Then Derek, he speaks up, and he's like, Nikki pled for her life. Jeremy sold his soul. and Sierra use profanity.

That's tough detective work, sir. Nice job, officer. I see a lot of people. Anytime that they're trying to plead not guilty, they're always screaming profanities. Yeah, no. I mean, yeah, probably. But also, like, this just doesn't seem like

astute detective work to me. I feel shoddy at best. But Boston Rob jumps in and says, this is all distractions, everybody. You'll all being distracted. because if you look around the room there's been one person spearheading and quarterbacking this

entire thing. And if you really think about it, who's that one voice been this entire time? Bob the drag queen. And everyone, like the room shakes because the people that heard were voting for DQ Bob. This is their radicalized now.

Yep. He's gotten them, they're like, fuck, we are doing this. All right, everybody, everyone, be cool. It's coming true. It's all to stay called. It's such, it's such crazy gamble too. And look, I don't think that he wanted to do it himself, obviously, because it puts such a huge target on his back. It skews the traders. They're all going to go after him and get him out. If he's going after one of our own, we need to get him out. We can't do this. But Dylan doesn't speak up. That's the problem. He was expecting Dylan to just double down. Now I've got the

support. But Dylan's probably thinking this could be a trap. Who knows? Maybe Boston Rob's got me. Would Dylan have been able to sell it too? That's the thing. He is, Without most of Rob's input, probably not. That's what I'm saying. He's admittedly not that guy. So he got somebody that is that guy to do his dirty work for him. But what he doesn't know is he's getting double dirtied. Yep.

He's doing your dirty work, but you're really all, you're the dirty work that B. Rob is doing. Because he doesn't want the target on his back. So look out, Dylan. But DQ Bob is shook. He's rattled. He's like, holy shit. Who? Me?

From you? What the fuck? And I wonder if in. that moment he went back to the top of the hill and was like fuck i shouldn't have said that or if he was just so rattled he's like wait a minute why are you coming at me we're traders this is crazy so i got nine words and i don't know what those nine words i'm a faithful and something else i did no it was like i'll tell you a joke but not a lie oh yeah i'll never lie i am a faithful i don't know it was nine words to say i'm not faithful yeah i know i did syllables it's all good

boss the rob's like well i got two words you're not and everybody starts to get involved this whole thing obviously dq bob gets a little activated he's trying to defend himself he's like you're scared of me and you know what there's probably some some validity to that you he probably is a little bit nervous about you because you're playing the game while you do have a lot of support amidst the group like you said individually not you don't have your click and that's something that's different than the rest of the players they have their faithful click but they also have the traitors click he doesn't have that

so he defends it really are he's like you will never be me and Dylan jumps in and says well I grew up around an actor and poor Zach Efron catches a stray not a good one leave him alone yeah leave alone yeah high school musical fucking slaps to his day neighbors great is phenomenal

it was a great movie I like a lot of Efron movies so you know what leave that poor guy alone he broke his jaw that everyone thought he got crazy plastic surgery because his jaw muscles And it definitely secured Dolores's vote, too, because Dolores was like, all right, that was mean. You leave Zach alone. That's not nice.

That's not nice. I'm voting for you now. I don't like that. What's the movie with Matthew Perry, rest in peace? Where Zach Efron plays a young version of him. 13 going on 30. No. Yeah.

No, that's with Jennifer Gardner. Jennifer Gardner. Jennifer Gardner. That movie's great. 30, flirty and thriving. 30, flirty and thriving. That made me try razzles because they would always eat the razzles. That was a thing.

yeah um it was i i know what it was it didn't they both go back in time yeah third no no no he goes to a bridge and falls off into a portal and turns back into his younger self but he's old still right and then goes back to high school to live the life that he wanted to live because when he was a basketball star in high school he got the the head cheerleader pregnant and they had the kid and then he thought his whole life sucked but then he looks back after living this different life and he's like no man my life was pretty cool which is also the same plot of 90% of movies from that era and i'll watch all of them over and over again are you looking it up i'm looking it up well now it's uh 17 again 17 again i knew it was something again

yeah great it's just all this is a little tiny bit morbid but i it took me forever to actually get to the movie when i googled matthew perry zach effron there are a ton of articles about Zach Ephron potentially playing Matthew Perry in a biopic. Well, I'll watch it. Does Matthew Perry want Zach Efron to play him in a biopic? And I'm like, well, do we know? I don't know. Oh, hi, buddy.

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I think you're going to lose this one, but that's a fucking great line. And I think B. Rob seals it with this one. If he's not, you can vote me out next. I'm like, fuck. He just, no one else is going to go away from DQ Bob. Now we get to the vote and Bob secures it with 11. The other front runners were Sierra with four. Nicky had two, which is just such a shot in the dark.

And then obviously Boston Rob had one from DQ Bob. Yep. So, and he also secured all the traders. The big thing was Danielle, who we thought was just going to, I really thought that Danielle was just going to continue to go after Sierra and just speak to her game plan. But she was swayed. And the confessionals are a little misleading because she's talking about. it like no we had a plan i can't go after him i don't want to do this and then afterwards she's

like i could just see his face and then she starts crying too it's like all right like it's a game where everybody relax but it's again the psychology of these shows dude that's there needs to be a podcast about that that would be interesting like how your brain shifts like when you're us doing that i don't mean with what we're psychologists with what uh yeah put on our psychology hat is different than having a degree in psychology i'm just saying it's like in the bachelor a bachelor and bachelorette when people are like oh my god i'm in love with this person after a week and i do think in the moment they are and then they leave and they're like oh no i'm not no i'm not i'm not i don't know anything about this person it would be insane for me to get married after 30 days but

hey will you marry me so i can have the prize money i five i don't know but regardless bob gets whacked rip bob the drag queen arguably the best most entertaining contestant from this season for sure I'm sad to lose him this early on, but even he confirms. He's like, look, it's good gameplay. This was solid gameplay from Boston, Rob, especially if he felt threatened by me, which I'm sure he did a little bit. And he's like, that's just gameplay, baby. So I love it.

I do too. I like that's the right attitude to have to. Humble and defeat. Like Tony was so pissed off. He's like, Rob, you're a fucking sellout. It's like, all right. Dude, relax. But now that I'm thinking about it, Rob stuck his neck out last week, too, to get Tony out.

Tony was a faithful now he sticks his neck out and he gets yeah you spill a little bit of traitor blood it's going to keep people happy and create a little bit of chaos and just happiness and they're not going to think but you did it twice in a row now now you've become what you just pointed at Bob the drag queen but I just said he's the most boisterous he's telling you guys what to do look at him he's a traitor that's what you're now doing you just stepped right into Bob's role yeah but the difference is the fanfare after he does this and Bob says I am a traitor. He won the favor of most of the room that I would say everybody in the room is like,

fuck yeah, Boston Rob, this is why you're a legend. This is why we trust you because you're so good at these fucking games. How on earth did you know that? That would be my first thought. I'm like, guys, let's vote for him. You weren't on him until now. Like you didn't support Dylan last week. Now you're supporting him this week.

Oh, Dylan has such a man crush on him now. He's like, I fucking love Boston Rob because he. It should be Dylan getting him. the fanfare, by the way. He pointed them out last week and nobody believed them. Nobody's going over to Dylan and saying, you were right, buddy. Nope. But maybe that's better.

Maybe he doesn't want the credit. You want Boston Rob to get the credit because now they're looking at him. They're not looking at Dylan. Dylan is still skating by. And he was the first one to peg somebody. But at the same time, when he goes off with Boston Robb, he's not Boston Robb's like, ooh, you're in my fucking pocket now, bud, and you have no idea. I'm going to take you all the way to the end.

You're going to trust me implicit. and then I'm going to slit your goddamn throat and it's going to be glorious because I don't fucking care about you, pal. And Dylan is so excited to trust somebody that he's all in on Boston Robb. He's like, all right, here's who's next. I know, I think I have an idea who's next.

And he names Gabby and. He said Gabby and Bob H. Gabby and Bob H. The next two. And I was like, I don't see either, honestly. And also, Boston Rob is not going to follow your lead on this one now. No, he's going to tell you. He's going to say, oh, good call. good car, but you know what?

We're going to wait until tomorrow because we don't want to blow up a spot. While they're talking and there's a couple of things going on here and we can put the two scenes together. While the two of them are talking with Dylan and Boston Rob walking out, Dylan's got his hit list. Boston Rob's listening to him because he's got him in his pocket. Gabby comes out right at that time. It's like, oh shit, stop talking. Hey, Gab, how are you?

What's going on? Hey, guys, great job, love this. I think dot, dot, dot. What she's to say is, I think Danielle, because that's, That's what she's thinking. She's going to the people that just got a trader out. It's like, all right, let me go to the people. Yeah.

And now we've got so many things going on where we're going to have at the end of the episode, obviously the traders are all talking. We don't see what they talk about right away. We'll see that next week. But you got to think that Danielle is going to try to recruit Carolyn to get Boston Rob out. Like, no, no, no. We can't have this already. But that's going to put you at a disadvantage.

So now you've got Boston Rob talking to Gabby who thinks that Danielle's a trader. That's going to put a little bit of a little bit. balance into play. At the same time, Wes is sitting there. How would you know if somebody was a hundred percent a traitor? How would you be that adamant out of nowhere that somebody's a trader? Took Tom about 15 minutes, but Tom got there eventually. Because Tom started the conversation off with like he's all in. I trust I'll do anything Boston Rob says. Like clearly you're not paying attention then because everyone's scared of this guy and you're like, oh man, he proved in that room. He's not. And then Wes is like, how would he know that?

they're like oh right right right yeah no you're right too though but maybe he maybe you're right right maybe you're right right can you tell me how you're right uh I just I need a reminder can you draw it in a picture book so I can understand because I don't get it but yeah I think what's going to be interesting because yeah we get to the the turret and they're discussing things and we're not going to be privy to that I hate waiting for this show I fucking hate it I'm glad they're doing a week to week for for our sake so we can recap it like accordingly, but I do get frustrated because it's just so goddamn good. But what I would like to happen, my gameplay, if I'm Boston Rob, all right,

I am moving quietly and drumming up more about Danielle, but he cannot be the one to bring it up at the realm. He can't be the one to point the finger at her because if he does, now they're like, all right, dude, this guy is always on the nose like something's fishy here. But what it gives him the opportunity to do is take out two traders and he'll have a stranglehold on the traders and then recruit Dylan into the traders and now you've got a squad.

You know what I mean? Because I think Caroline, the easy way to play that, or Carolyn, sorry, the easy way to play that is now if you get Danielle out, it's like, all right, Carolyn,

Bob and Danielle out. You don't want Danielle out. You don't want another trader because then there's only two. And you can recruit. You're allowed to recruit. I'm saying what I would do. Yeah. I think that's a move.

It's interesting. It's interesting, but it doesn't behoove you to get rid of another trader. You just lost one. Then you're down by two. no you don't want to do it because you can recruit one you can only recruit one more okay so then you get back up to three and i think that's plenty and then what it does because that's fine i'm giving you my fucking game plan then you can yeah your game plan stupid yeah we'll see dickhead

because my whole thought process is now that the traders are up for grabs boston robb has a chance to take control of the traders because if you get daniel out you can go to caroline and be like hey Bob the drag queen, Danielle, they were keeping you down. They weren't letting you speak. I'm going to let you run this show. You just make her seem like she is at the head of it and let her make some decisions. Bring in Dylan, who is in Boston Rob's pocket already. That's how you get a unified front, which is what Boston Rob wanted from the jump.

So I agree with you that it's still early and to be whacking traders this early is a dangerous game. But I also think that it's a risk that may have some payoffs, because you get Daniel or sorry Carolyn on your team with Boston Rob who's already a little befuddled and then you can recruit somebody that you know you can trust so that's a unified front and if that is Boston Rob's goal that gives you that unified front I do understand the risks involved I get that I understand it was I think it was too soon to get rid of a trader but it happened it was awesome to watch I don't think you can just go back to back right away it's just way too soon to do too that would be insane even if it's Danielle and Carolyn trying to talk about it

they'll talk about it but you can't do it the next day you have to wait a day or two to go after boston i would agree that there's a time frame yes but i do think that boston robs should set up daniel you got to get rid of a couple more faithfuls before you do that because it is inevitable that you are going to get rid of another trader soon well they're going to get rid of the faithful tonight you have to sandwich it with it yeah you get rid of a faithful the night but you're going to have to sandwich it with a couple more faithfuls just to make you go yeah you kill a faithful overnight you kill a faithful at the roundtable another face and then another And then you have the chance for another trade.

Yeah, I could see that too. I'm curious. I'm very, very curious as to what the move's going to be because every time I think I got to go and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's definitely. Yeah. I'm like, oh, nope, someone did something different and that worked or oh, someone did something different. And that was a terrible idea because now you're dead, Bob the Drag Queen.

And again, RIP because what a tremendous, tremendous player. Fantastic episode too. Yeah, it was so fucking good. This show rocks. All right. first question up here from s e foster 430 did bob do enough on his way out to point fingers at rob that is something you can't do you are not definitely not allowed to do that but there are some things in there obviously that he said while he was defending himself pointing fingers back at rob obviously he's

just trying to protect himself at all costs but on his way out in the circle no i i think he was just it was a great moment he doesn't even believe in god it's great and then he walked out so i i think that inevitably boston rob is the one who's pointing fingers at himself i agree with that yeah but i just i he's so calculated that i i would imagine the things that he's doing he has and behind it and that normally i would be 100% on your side of things where it's like oh bad move but i'm like he's he's done this for too long for me to not assume he has a plan yeah um let's see from chris tanreece zach effron catching strays yep that that we agree are we buying daniel's act I can't tell when she's acting emotional or being real.

And I think that you could argue where I seem to think that she's doing too much sometimes. If you're consistent with doing too much, then it becomes your, your MO. So for whatever reason, she keeps eluding people, except for a couple people that have been stuck on her for a while. And she got rid of like the biggest one, which was Jeremy. So I don't know. I think that you would just argue that's her gameplay and you could argue that it's working. From Jamie Gibbs, if you were a traitor, who would you least trust out of your fellow traders.

I guess Bob Dragmeans out. So probably least trust in Boston Rob for sure. Yeah. Especially after that whole thing. Like that does, yeah, definitely Boston Rob. Yeah, here's another good one from Jade Brianna. Bob DQ clearly did not watch Ironcloth. That's a great fucking movie.

That movie's fantastic. If you think Efron is a bad actor, go watch Ironclaw and tell me how many times you cry, especially when he realizes it's a true story and it's sad as fuck. That's one of those that even at the end when it's happy, You're like, yeah, yay, but oh, fuck, that was a grind. Two-parter here from our friend, Outdoor Lowe's. Carolyn is so underestimated. She made it to the survivor finale.

Could she win it all? And also, never mind about my comments about rooting for Robin Lass. Thank you for taking that back, Lowe's. But, yeah, no, I do appreciate when you take accountability. I think Carolyn's in a very good position. Yes, she's frustrated because they're not listening to her. But not, I don't think anybody suspects that she is. There are a lot of finger-pointings going around there,

and she is not catching any strays right now. So I think she is very much under the radar. She's doing a great job. And I think I could see her winning at all. I agree. I think that she is underestimated. I've said that since the first turret conversation when she got kind of pushed down to the bottom.

I'm like, oh, I don't think you guys are playing this, right? I think you should get more involved. From Abela, A. Bella Moore, 24. Do you think B. Rob shot himself in the foot going so hard for DQ Bob right before the round table. I think, yes, you could definitely argue that that's where, again, I say he must have some kind of contingency plan if he's this good at these games, because yes, that does draw attention. And I think that he knows that draws it. Can you hear the vacuum? No. Okay, good. And I think he knows that that draws attention to him. So that's, that's going to be the first

thing I'm looking at next week. How are people looking at Boston Rob? What are they saying about Boston Rob? We'll do one more here from Nick Sims, or Nick Sims, sorry. who should the traders recruit next if they can um i think dillet he's so he's so nice no don't don't if you're bob you or if you're rob rather you've got them in your pocket already don't worry about that you can you can burn them when he need to i would also have him as a you have him as a trader that you can just direct like he's going to listen to whatever boston rob says he's already going to do that trader or not yeah i don't think it's worth it uh maybe look a west he's also a sacrificial Alam. He's a good sacral lamb.

Wes would be a good one, especially if Rob hears that Wes is using his name. I think you take somebody completely unsuspecting, or you take, like, Nicky or Sierra, unless you're going to lean into just getting rid of both of them eventually, but you're going to get rid of one of them so you could do that. There's just so

many options here. Like, Bob H. would be a good one. I would love to see that. Nicky or Sierra again, like, that's too obvious. I think that's too fucking obvious, especially once there is no right answer to any of this. No. there's not at all um i think that if you recruit if it's not dylan mine would probably be oh

oh gabby take one of the bambies get them on your team so that they can infiltrate that group that yeah gabby's a good one yeah or dolow because no one expects her true but yeah i don't think there's a right or wrong answer it's going to be fun to watch it all shake out it's just so god damn frustrating waiting to see this show every week because it's so good i know it's so good But it gives us something to look forward to. Yeah, I love this show. I'm so glad we're recapping it. Hopefully, the next season comes out soon when this one ends, because I don't, I'm

going to go back and watch one and two because I just, I need more traders in my life. But me too. The last thing I'll say before we sign off here is Alan Cummings. His fucking wardrobe is just impeccable. It's so good. Every time I see him, I'm like, God damn it, you look fantastic. like when he's on the uh the easter island challenge yeah and he's got the the well let's also point out the dog too what's the dog's yeah he's she's dressed wonderfully like it's perfect i want

his i could not pull it off i would try i don't think i could pull it off you try yeah but he just he look every time he walks in he looks great i will also shout out dq bob with his final outfit looked phenomenal as well oh nice job everybody i mean the outfits other than tom i cannot stand beanies indoors unless it's like freezing outside yeah it's like people are getting so upset there's two things people are getting upset online about one they're mad that west and uh and boston robber on the game and i saw one tweet they're mad they are why yeah it's i guess that they've been making like they've been circling around all of these types of shows they were on like house of villains which i don't watch i find that like as the b team of traders like i don't really care about them

of traders um and then the other thing i saw was boss of rob was on uh dealer he he's on dealer no deal island he's like the host yeah they were like first he pops up on house of villains then he's on dealer no deal islands now he's on traders and like well that's your fault for watching dealer no deal islands and also like oh fuck this guy for making money like that it always makes me laugh and i was surprised to see the people was that mad about it they're like oh we got to get these people off i'm like all right like if that's how you want to feel it's fine but i think you're playing the game really well I'll never understand that.

That's like when people get upset at athletes for taking massive contracts to leave their city. It's like, would you turn down $200 million? Probably not. So let's, let's be reasonable here. The guy's just making money. That's stupid. But, uh, yeah, whatever. Awesome show.

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