Bros & Shows - Trolley Bus to Find Kenny's Dad! (In The City Full Recap S1E5)

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

What's up bros? It's official, this show would be good if it wasn't weighed down by Amanda. I don't know what else to say and we feel Bravo will continue to push Amanda because they think it's doing numbers but in reality, we have a lot here that could be fun but Amanda, NOT FUN. Kenny redeems himself slightly with a good personal storyline while Danielle is fighting back and we're weirdly here for it (has nothing to do with it being against Amanda). The outlook is hopeful here guys! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I like this cast. I think that we're onto something. I think that we are on the right track. But until we get through this season, the Amanda stuff is just kind of going to be there. Like, it's going to be there and we got to do our best to not look at it. Don't touch it. How? I don't know.

But that's the challenge. That'll be the challenge of this show. I don't want to be challenged while watching a show. You can't make me do a challenge. This is a Love Island. I just want to watch, you know, I just want to enjoy myself. But the pieces out. Yeah.

No, I know you're talking about in the city. I was just relating to Love Island. I got you. We're doing both today. So I got it's like, wait, I think we're doing different shows. That's incredible. No, I, the other pieces that are just sliding around the map here, between Amanda and Kyle and all the things going on there are good.

There's some fun stuff going on that we can talk about. I just, you know, I don't want to do Amanda and Kyle anymore. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma.

And yes, I am a bitch. Bravo Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of, The Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast for The Brows for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by In the Goots. What's up, dude?

In Your Goots. Right. No, yeah, in your Goots would be pretty rough. But in the Goots just made me like, right in the Goots. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. Right in the Goots. Took a soccer, soccer ball right to the Goots, not a football.

Right to the Goots. Yeah. Football. Yeah, like I said at the beginning, this is, this can be a very good show. I do think it's going to be a good show in the future. I do think that Bravo probably, and I don't even, we talk a lot about like, what Bravo wants us to do with Amanda and West and Kyle and everything like that. And we've got a show currently running. It does just have to run its course at this point.

That's where we are. We just have to get to a point where we can get past it and we can focus on what really matters. I don't know what the outlook of this show is, but that's not something we do. after episode five. We'll do that in like six weeks. I am, however, concerned. And I want to hear where you are. I want to get your read on this. Why the hell did they film the in the city reunion already? What are we doing? Oh, I didn't even know they did. They did it last week. That's where that picture of Kyle and Amanda very weirdly walking out of the reunion smiling together came from. They did the reunion last week. We've only seen up until that point and maybe the cast has seen

a little bit more, but they're not seeing the finished product. There's no way you can convince me that they've seen all 12 episodes or whatever we're going to end up getting. So between that and also they did it before last night's aftermath episode. So I don't know. I just don't really understand it. Oh, well, Danielle's pregnant. We know that. I would guess it has something to do with that.

Yeah, I think she is about like, that's the same thing that happened to the valley. Yeah. Yeah, no, that actually makes total sense. Still sucks, but I can at least get that. That's a good enough reason. I'm happy I brought that to your attention. There you go.

Glad we can figure that one out. But yeah, it's going to be hard to compartmentalize because we're also coming off the heels of the aftermath debacle that we had to watch last night. That bullshit. But after. There is, yeah, after. But there is a good show here. And I like the cast and everyone's kind of coming into their own. You know, Kenny's settling in.

And from what it looks like, you know, again, I don't think he's the worst human being in the world. I think he's just kind of an asshole. And we need assholes on TV, as you were saying last week. So it's not like we have anybody on this cast where I'm like out on them by any means except for one person. But she might be out anyway. So we don't have to do anything about that. But I'll even take it a step further. I might really like Owen.

And that scares me. I can't tell yet. I'm either I either love him or I fucking hate him. I don't know which. Yeah. Gavin falls under the love or hate for me. Kenny is exactly, I think, what shows like this need. everybody else we pretty much already know

we still get more Katie DeLuca drop-ins like why is she involved in everything I don't know what that was going on we obviously love Georgina but Owen I might secretly love Owen and that might change my stance on Danielle which is going to bother a lot of people

just based off of all of the support I got after the first two episodes just going after Danielle and why she's on the screen if I like Owen I'm going to be fine with Danielle being on the show which is a very weird thing to say My favorite story arc would be you coming around on Danielle. That would be really funny to me. But I don't know with Owen yet.

He could definitely go literally either way because on one hand, I like that he stepped in when it came to the trolley stuff. On the other hand, he just bothered me the way that he said things. I was like that you're irritating. You're annoying. And so that's not his fault. But he did it with a brogue.

Does that not help? No, no. I think it made it worse. I think it would. Oh. Yeah. I know. I don't know. That's it's not his fault really. It's just that's why I'm I'm on the Owen fence right now. But what if I, that's, that's, I don't know why, but that sounds sexual. Um, what if you do a brogue when you talk about Owen? Will that make you feel better? Yeah. Like just, you know, I can't help myself and that it'll inevitably turn Irish and then Scottish and then Australian as it always does. Isn't he Irish? Yeah. So it'll start Irish turned British and then land. And then land. on Australian. If it starts Irish, it goes Irish, British, Australian. If it starts

British, then it goes British, Irish, Australian. Yeah, I feel like you stop in like Birmingham or something somewhere along the way. And then it goes full like posh English and then goes to Australian. Yeah. It's cockney, then posh, then Australian. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all right. So as long as we lay that out and you just get to speak at a brogue for a little bit, I think you'll be okay. I think you'll be fine. Yeah. Like I said, I, I, I don't know. I think he's going to be good for the show. I like that he stepped in in that moment, like I said.

But let's just dive in because not a lot happened, but I do feel like we're starting to just set up the foundation of this show and what we can expect from certain people. Bravo needs to stop it. Like we don't need to start the episode out with the Sierra Top. I need to find new friends. I was like, you can't make that up. That's crazy.

But now you're shoving it in our face. And I get it to a certain extent. the same time, we want this show to be able to stand on its own without this stuff. So we start out with the Sierra Top and finding new friends for Amanda, which is very ironic. But we get to a little product testing with Lindsay. And it's Lindsay, Yvonne, and Georgina. Yvonne thought they were going to like a cute brunch, which is very funny. The dynamic of this trio, I love.

I love Georgina. I really like Yvonne. Lindsay's obviously an Alzheimer. They have a great rapport. And it's not, you know, the usual. reality TV crew. You know what I mean? Like it's just kind of quirky and funny and it does seem really real and authentic,

which I really like, but they're just an interesting threesome. Like I like being around these guys. Yeah. No, I fully agree with that. I think that this is again, it's right in the middle of seeing the shows like Summerhouse and Soho and then going on to Housewives where obviously we have,

you know, moms of older children. So it's a completely different game. But watching young moms talk to, another potential mom who's thinking about going down that or getting into that journey of parenthood. I think it just hits a lot better because they're fun young moms. Like, yeah, being hung over and parenting, that really fucking sucks.

Or Georgina saying, yeah, my son right now won't actually, he was crying because I wanted to, he wanted to put his poopy diaper back on. So I smeared chocolate on it, which probably isn't any better. It's almost worse, I would imagine. I can't imagine with chocolate. I don't know, because they. sit this. All right. Let's just talk about this real quick. I need to get this out of my brain.

I figured we would. Yeah. So in my brain, I'm not a dad, but in my brain, a toddler, yes, you're going to get a rash if you're sitting your poop for too long in your diaper. But they do do that. That was unintended. But they do do that. Yes, they do do that.

So they don't sit in chocolate. Wouldn't chocolate be worse than something that they don't do? It could be a skinny or a tint. Yes, that that could be thing but I you know I just thought it was really relatable because she's like is that gonna you know set up a bad habit probably but that's next week's problem it was just a relatable moment especially like the hangover you know I that's the worst thing in the world is when you're hung over as a parent that'll get you to stop drinking almost but again just to put a lid on

the poop versus chocolate debate I don't know I would I would still think that poop is worse I think poop is usually worse in any scenario I can't I can't think of a scenario or poop is better unless you're constipated. Yeah, no, that's definitely true. But also, I think the funny thing is both are better options than just having a kid throwing a hissy fit because he wants his poopie diaper. So I think you just deal with the skin irritant at some point rather than in the moment if you're already overwhelmed dealing with a child who's just screaming because he wants to put

his poopy diaper back on. But I love that dynamic. Like this is so much more fun than their other show that we always compare this to where you've got two moms that are like, ah, yeah, I mean, being home over really. fucking sucks, but I love my kids. And I'm still going to do activities with them. And we're going to do fun things around the city. And you get Yvonne who's just like, yeah, we had a really good talk, Nick and I the other

day where he finally agreed to start trying. So we're really excited. Flash to that scene. Are we ready to start trying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Sure. I guess. Really convincing, Nicholas. That's fine. And look, I think we get enough context of them. And we already talked about this last week. That's probably going to be their storyline this year of whether or not. not they want to start trying to have kids right now they're starting to try at least but i i understand

where they are where nicks like i don't know we have to worry about time like i think we're going to be great parents we obviously love each other i'm like that's what i want to hear but also you're weighing the options of do we have enough time to have kids let's talk about that and it seems like they've had those conversations so i've got no qualms with that i think it's going to be a fun journey i think it's going to be interesting as long as that doesn't turn dark i won't have any problems with them. Correct. Agreed. And, you know, I like those two. They're kind of weird, but they're both weird. So they're weird together. Nick's a little vanilla. The scene later with, uh, with Owen and Danielle sitting down. He was just making all, like he might as well be a dad because he's just making dad jokes left him, right? Like he's, he's feeling it. So he really is ready. That's the confirmation he needed, Yvonne. But we get to Kyle and Kenny. And they finally get to clear the air about this whole spark thing because we want.

watched an entire episode about this. And Kyle was nowhere to be found for Kenny to have this sit down. Now, when they sit down to talk about it, and it does make me laugh because Kenny is now spinning this whole thing. It's like, we had an amazing conversation. I said so many different things. And all he took away from that was no spark. It's like, well, sure, fine.

You said nice things. But if you say the spark thing, of course, that's what he's going to leave with. And to Kyle's credit, when he related to Andrea. he did say like, I'm not saying there's no spark. And then it got whispered down the lane. And yes, Kenny, it's annoying that people are talking about your shit. Welcome to reality TV. This is probably a crash course.

And good for him to learn early on. You know, this happened right out of the gate. So now he knows if I say something stupid, they're going to find out about it. So maybe try not to say something stupid. I don't know. I don't think Kenny isn't like a bad dude. I think he's a bit of a douchebag, but we need douchebags on TV. and watching this whole thing play out with him and Whitney

has turned into such a fun train wreck because it's like no matter where they go, I do think they love each other. I do think they're trying to figure it out. I do think they're going to do their own thing. They're adults. They can go about their business the way that they seem fit. But I think it's really funny that at every turn,

while that's all going on, their group is making it so much worse. Yeah. Yeah. And seeing the little cut scene, which we weren't privy to, before of Kyle explaining what he meant. Yeah.

Does everything possible to make Kyle look better because he even says, maybe it's just a little self-reflection because I feel like I've got no spark left to my marriage and I don't know what to do with it. So going back over to Andrea and Nick and explaining again what you said, when we see the footage, it's like, all right, cool, he's completely exonerated. Kyle is fine. This is just reality TV. This is how it works.

Kenny will figure it out. Kenny isn't wrong necessarily that he did say a bunch of nice things about Whitney. but when you say one bad thing or one thing that makes you kind of turn your nose up, you're like, what the fuck did you just say? Do you have no spark in the relationship? She's moving to New York, and you're admitting that you said the spark thing,

but now he's got a new idea where he's like, wait a minute, maybe he's taken out of context. Maybe I can just add more layers on top and people won't dig through it to try to figure out what I actually meant. I'm going to go with that one for now. Albeit it is probably the best move that he's made so far. He's made some very weird moves. This might be the best.

It doesn't mean it's good. It doesn't mean it's going to work. But it might actually put everything to rest. Now, I don't know where Andre and Lexi stand. If I have to guess, they're probably moving on and they don't want to really talk to Kenny that much or Whitney that much. And they're going to leave it there. Gavin's going to be the wild card. Because I think that there's still a lot more to uncover with that conversation at the end of the last episode.

I think that's going to be the thing that's going to keep this on our radar for a little bit longer than it really needs to be there. But at least we can put everybody else away from all of this. We don't have to have the spark conversation again. We'll just focus on whether or not Gavin's okay with Kenny and Whitney moving forward. And that's going to be the interesting part. It's just funny hearing him play the semantics game with Spark. Like, of course, it was spark. It's like, is it a long-term spark?

Is it a we're going to get married Spark? I was like, no one in the history of the world has ever done that. No. And also, that's not making it better, Kenny. Just stop talking about it. Yeah. He's trying to dig himself out of a hole. He's like diminishing.

He's like, everybody took it out of context and they just said spark overall. But there are nuances to a spark. There's a long spark. Let's talk about sparks. Let's talk more about sparks. It's like, wait, no, dude. Again, I still think you're handling this better than you have been handling it. But that's also not necessary.

You could just have the conversation with Kyle. Kyle can then say, well, wait, hold on. I did like course correct at some point and just reiterate to them. And then if you have a problem with Andrea because he didn't understand whatever, I don't think you should. I think it's kind of fruitless at that. that point. Yeah.

But doing what you're doing is only going to come back once again to bite you in the ass. It's just going to bite you in the, in the ass a little bit less than it has so far. I mean, I guess I appreciate his honesty. Like you would think at this point, you'd be like, of course there's a spark.

Like I, you know, I just said the wrong thing. Yes, there's a spark. Yeah. That's all you say that. Yeah.

Then shut up. But whatever, it's kind of funny. But we get to the bar with Danielle, Nick Owen and Yvonne. And Yvon's like, you know, never had beef with Danielle.

And now that Lindsay and Danielle are rebuilding this friendship. fair game so they're going out and they're hanging out now we get more baby talk and that leads us to the owen and daniel's situation again i think this was simply a he separated they started dating and that's the story there are some doomie blind items floating around i think and there's some rumors in the tabloids we don't have anything concrete i would imagine if this is nefarious, then we would have an X somewhere talking about it. So I don't think there's anything icky going on here. I'd like to think there's anything icky going on here.

But, you know, I don't even know really what to think about these two. I'll be honest. Like, I really don't know. I think I like them. I think they're fine. We really haven't gotten anything of context from them. No. Really doing anything.

We're skating around the one issue that they have, which is, are you a homewrecker pretty much? And we're not going to really talk about that. But they haven't talked about anything else really, other than Lindsay. It's like, I don't really give a shit. No.

And the way that they've talked about it with Owen and Danielle, it's been mostly support from Owen. Like, yeah, I don't really understand it. In my mind anyway, the way that this is all come up and the way that the blind items have come up, I don't even think it's the X.

It's probably just friends, maybe in their circle, maybe family members of the X. maybe yeah maybe someone else Katie DeLuca getting involved I'm sure somebody is just saying like you should look at the timelines or maybe there's it's one of those situations

where Owen was kind of out on his marriage and his ex wasn't so there is some bad feelings there and now it's it's looking into everything where it's like I didn't I didn't give him my good grace to move on and find somebody else this quickly and I'm upset that he found somebody so quickly so now we can have that discussion that's probably all it is if I have to guess right now

I do think that a bigger piece of this again, which we get into later, is how everybody else is talking about and how everybody else is perpetuating it. And now it's making Danielle look bad when I think if Danielle looked bad, she has no problems telling us herself that she looked bad and doing something bad that makes us, at least confirms our suspicions. And she hasn't done that yet. So that's usually her M.O. And that kind of leads me to believe that there's nothing really up here.

Yeah, I agree. I agree. But obviously we'll learn more as the show goes on, especially if that's how it's going to be handled on the trolley, which was fucking stupid. But the other part of this is Yvonne and Nick aren't legally married, which it didn't, I guess they got married in Mexico, but it wasn't like official in the U.S. So they got to go to the courthouse at some point and life got in the way, things sped up, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, we'll see them at the courthouse eventually. But we get to Kenny and Whitney. And I like these seats, you know, especially with characters like Kenny, you do have to humanize them. And this was a very humanizing scene because he's talking about his relationship with his parents. His mom passed away. And he hadn't talked to his dad in like 25 or 28 years, something like that. Because I guess his parents split when they were younger.

And his dad moved to London and he would go visit his dad. And then their relationship was kind of weird. And he had a whole different family. And Kenny had resentment towards that. So mom was like, hey, if you don't want to go, you don't have to go. Kenny didn't go. And then they just ceased communication. Now that his mom passed away, he's realizing that he wants to have some kind of relationship

with his dad. So he's hired a PI to try to figure out where his dad is. And this was just, it's nice to see this scene, especially again, when you have a character like Kenny who's kind of a dick, you do want to see if there's redeeming qualities there. And like, this is the kind of stuff I want to see. I want to be able to get to know him a little bit, get to know his background and see that he's not some heartless monster, but there, there is a heart in there. Yeah, I thought this was really cool.

I mean, getting a PI involved from Bo Dietl LLC, getting him involved to go figure out where his dad is, if he's still alive, all of those things. I thought this was very genuine and very authentic. And whether you're in the camp of he waited until the show started to do this, I think personally he probably waited until Whitney was there. I mean, I think having a relationship, having, you know, some sort of outlook on the future of what you want your life to be. You start thinking about, you know, I lost my mom. I don't really have family left. I want to have that sense of family and I want to know if my dad wants to have that sense of family. I think it's a very traditional.

I think it's a very common thing that actually happens. Your parents separate. You kind of choose one. And then the other one kind of goes by the wayside. And whether they want to have that relationship is kind of up to them. So I think it's a very cool insight into not only Kenny, but for a lot of people that go through these things. Like we always point those things out. If you can talk about a situation that is very common to other people that maybe they don't think it's common, they say it on TV.

They're like, oh, wow, cool. Somebody else is going through that. And I think the way he's going about it is very authentic. Like, let me just start here. I've been talking to this guy for a little while, trying to figure out where my dad is. I did it myself, which is very funny, the way that this ends up with him and Whitney sitting on the couch going through Facebook. I don't know how much digging he actually did. But if it's that simple at the end of the day, it's kind of funny.

But going into it and having a PI and paying him and actually having these conversations, again, I think it's just very authentic. And you have to have a good personal storyline. You can't just have a storyline about other people digging into your relationship. or a spark or a spark either or but we went to the trolley car and kyle's doing like a little gorilla ad campaign where they're driving around to different bars and you know distributors and trying to sell lover boy actually thought this was kind of fun uh i don't love the vibes in the beginning like why why do we care that it's an old trolley isn't that the point when you hire a trolley it's supposed to be kind of old and shitty the trolley driver's fucking awesome too dan

love that guy he was very funny when we close when we like flash over to him and everybody's just honk and he's like, what do you want to be doing? I got to go wide in this thing. I got to, you know, hey, come bad. Yeah, I'm walking here. That's all okay. But we're getting back to the roots of lover boy.

You know, he's trying to remind himself and Amanda and investors that they're still a void in this industry. And even though we lost our way, we can fill that void. What void? What void are we filling? See, yeah. I don't know. There is propaganda going on here. We're acting like there's a void to fill, like you're starting off again.

We talked a lot about- Yeah, we talked a lot about Kyle's business tactics. This is just throwing shit at the wall. I mean, I would imagine production probably helps out a little bit with something here and there, and that's what he's kind of keying it on. We see that in Summerhouse for the last six seasons. Everybody's drinking lover boy. That marketing didn't do that well.

we talked about it before. Maybe if you were a better husband and had a better life that people would like you and then they would buy your product, but that doesn't seem to add up. And like you said, there are a lot of other selter companies. There are a lot of other companies that do exactly what you do. There's no void. It's just that they're not selecting your product. Maybe at the end of the day, you retool the product and make it better because everybody

that I've talked to, either it's not available there for whatever reason or they just don't like the taste. So maybe go back to the drawing board with that and your formula and then start doing these things. Like, hey, the new and improved lover boy is now available. Let me bring it over here. And I, dude, the scenes of having everybody individually go into these bar restaurants and then distributors being like, hey, have you tried this? That woman is just, she's a bartender. She doesn't make the call on what's going on here.

Wow. Wow, that's really good. Why don't we have that here? Oh, right. I don't make the call. I think somebody actually did have it here. And as Gavin even says, yeah, I own a lot of different restaurants and I have lover boy and all of them because I support Kyle.

They just don't sell. Nobody wants these things. I miss the seltzer craze. I got sober before the seltzer thing happened. Yeah. I've talked to a lot of people about seltzers and lover boy. I have yet to find somebody that enjoys lover boy. Apparently there's a bad aftertaste is what I've been doing.

Yeah. I mean, I haven't had it in years at this point. maybe I should just do like a new taste test and see if it's gotten any better. But the other products on the market are just fantastic. We're not sponsored by anything of them. So I'm not going to shout them out. I was going to give a fellow CHA alum a shout out. But I guess not.

They don't know. They don't need it. No, they're fucking killing it. Have you seen the new arena down at state side? Oh, there you go. Yeah. That's why I was cutting you off with an aha. But yeah.

Uh-huh. Well, whatever. Maybe we'll get a sponsorship from that. We know a guy. but anyways Gavin showing up wearing a trench coat I don't know how I feel about Gavin I'm not sure how I'm I think he's going to be good

for the show because he's going to cause a lot of shit he's going to stick his nose into a bunch of things that he shouldn't be involved in and that's going to rub a lot of people the wrong way in a good way for reality TV as far as like hangout ability I could not hang out with this guy I would lose my fucking mind I mean I think I could hear and there for sure I don't think I could have

him as a close friend. I think that's where I am. Right. I don't understand why he feels like it's his business with a lot of these things. Like the way that he talked to Kenny and Whitney was so strange. And he was like, come on. Come on. Like, it's us three against the world.

Like, I'm going to talk about your shit. And then I'm going to kiss her on the cheek after I call her boring and vanilla and say that you guys aren't going to work out. It's fine. I'm Gavin. This is my trench coat. Yeah. Yeah.

The big trench coat guy. What's under the trench coat? I don't want to know. I don't know. But he also has that vibe about him where he has the idea that we're on a, we're on a reality TV show. So I can kind of insert myself wherever I want. Yeah.

Figure things out. And when you have a question about it, I can just be unapologetic about it. Like that's the vibe I get from him where he's never going to say, hey, I shouldn't have gotten involved. I'm sorry. I kind of stepped over a line there.

It's going to be more, what do you mean? I can't have an opinion on this. We're talking about it out loud. Exactly. And where it's, good is moments like this where he just out of nowhere is like Kyle and Ketty you guys talk you guys figure things out which is fine because he's kind of involved in that so he can't bring

that up but I think he's going to do that with everything like there's going to be an elephant in the room and he's going to just blah and speak on it which again we need that guy so I'm not mad at that approach I think it's actually kind of funny that's where I actually like him a little bit but that he just gets he's too much and I'm like all right right yeah but we're able to kind of squash it. You know, Andrea goes for those. A big misunderstanding, but at the same time, your approach was wrong. Kenny, you could have dealt with it differently.

Kenny, you know what? I was defending my relationship. I can be very abrasive. Like, that's where it got to. He didn't have to get that. I was like, oh, nice. All right, cool. We can squash this.

And everyone kind of says their peace. We're moving on. Yeah, Lindsay didn't have anything to say. That's what I was waiting for. The other shoot dropped. Like, all right, we'll know if this is actually going to be over. If Lindsay just doesn't interject herself or does, I don't know which way she's going to go.

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I do think it's a good tactic, by the way, to go in there with a bunch of cameras. You're going to get a lot more yeses than knows if you shove a camera in their face. And you're like, it's on TV. They're like, ah, we'll take 10 bucks. And then they sit there in the store for the next year and don't sell. I mean they won't hide him again. But that's why it's so funny when Kyle's giving his explanation about his guerrilla marketing. It's like, yeah, we had a lot of success with that.

And then we get the clips of like him and Carl going to remote beer distributors and just selling the product. Montock. We sold 10, we sold 10 skews today. We're so excited about this. It's like, yeah, that probably did work when you were first starting out and people realized who you were. But now going back, yeah, you might see like a little blip, but I don't think it's going

to last outside of that. I think that their success hinges on if they can take advantage of the press they have right now. If they're able to actually spin the Amanda West thing correctly, it genuinely jokes aside could save that company. And I would imagine that they're doing everything in their power to do that. I'm sure that they have investors actually back in where it's like, hey, we want to get involved because he have so much good press. We talked about it before. We should just have investors come in and just he needs to give up his controlling interest. and just, you know, hold on to a little bit of the ownership, but divest the rest of it and let

somebody else take it over. Like, it's, it's great. You know, you had a dream. It worked out for a little bit. Then it kind of fell off a cliff. You don't want to be on the hook anymore. Like, if anything, take away from last summer. You don't want to be on the hook for millions of dollars.

You don't want your ex-wife now on the hook for millions of dollars and then start up a whole other thing. You just kind of want to get back to a good point where you can drink your lover boy. You can sell it. You can make money off of it. if it's doing well, but you don't have that much stress. And then you can go do other things. You can go do your DJing.

I know that he's not going to stop there, unfortunately, because that's how his mind works. He's going to find something else to invest and he's going to find some other companies to start up. And maybe it'll work. Maybe it won't. But he just wants that stress. Fingies crossed, man.

Fingies crossed. But the Owen and Danielle stuff comes up. And Yvonne's like, you know, people are talking about not in this group. It's like, oh, that's a lie. And I like that Owen calls it out. He's like, I think it is with this group. I was like, okay, I'm listening, Owen. I'm intrigued.

And we get the text, and Katie DeLuca gets mentioned once again. I don't know why we're trying to make Katie DeLuca happen. I don't know if she's a late addition to this show. I don't know what's going on with Katie DeLuca, but she has been said more times in Summer House and in the city than any Katie's ever mentioned on a show in the past. Yeah. But we get like a screenshot, and obviously there was a blog that said Danielle's a home record that ended up in a group chat.

Matt, who I guess. is Katie DeLuca's husband or boyfriend. He's the one that sent it to the group with Kyle and Amanda. Danielle's trying to figure out what the fuck's going on as far as this text goes. I think they have every right to be asking questions as to why you're setting this stuff around. Where Danielle does lose me is when she does though. Well, I would never do that to you. I was like, you talk to bloggers exclusively.

So you can't, you have no legs to stand on here. But you do have an argument about the text. And the biggest takeaway and the biggest argument she has, Amanda always tries to make it seem like Danielle's the problem when it comes to those two. The way that she talks to Danielle is what she claims Danielle does to her. She's like she's so condescending. She doesn't hear me. We're watching in real time. You speak over Danielle.

You're yelling. Why are you yelling? Like Danielle might be bringing up some stupid points with the like. I would never do that. But she's very calm. She's talking to you. And you're legit yelling. Well, I'd you take that up with Katie and Matt because they said, okay, first of all, you guys are party to the conversation.

You are talking about it. She has a right to ask you about it. You can't pawn it off on Katie and Matt because they're not there. And it turns into this weird back and forth where I'm standing on Danielle's side going, yeah. And I don't even think this is about knowing what Amanda did. I think this is simply watching the scene. I'm like, you're being an asshole. Like Danielle's trying to figure out what's going on.

And you're just really being a dick. Yeah, no, that was my takeaway too. And I really hope that the producers and the showrunners are watching this. Because at the end of the day, where we end up is Amanda is annoyed with Danielle. She can't even have a conversation with her. She's just paunting it off on Katie and Matt. Then she gets mad at Kyle. Who does Amanda have left?

No one gives a fuck about Amanda anymore. Right, got mad at Kyle for Kyle stepping into Defender. Correct. And there was no real leg to stand on, honestly. I mean, that's one of those situations where you could try to spin it and say like, yeah, look, we were confused. We didn't know what the hell was going on. And just like anybody else in that situation, this is where I agree with Danielle when she says, no one ever sends something like that that's scandalous to a group chat and says, oh my God, what's going on here? I'm really concerned. If you were concerned or if you had questions, you could have followed up with me, but you weren't concerned and you didn't want to follow up with me. You just wanted to do. talk shit. So just admit that you were talking shit. Just admit that it was so ludicrous and crazy that we sent it to a group chat. We all had a discussion about it. We had a couple of jokes. We had a couple of laughs. But it wasn't necessarily like at your like I wasn't trying to offend you with anything. I wasn't going after you or using you as an example. I was just saying, wow, this is pretty fucking crazy. We know who this is. But we don't really have a friendship. So why would

I reach out to you? That's the way to go about it. Instead, Amanda is just deflecting to Kyle, to Kyle essentially and Katie and Matt. And then just. kind of leaving herself out on an island i'm like what the fuck is going on like daniel i agree with you was doing it calm enough and owen was like hey i'm involved in this too but i can't really get a word in edgewise because you're shouting and then amanda flips it back on him like the whole thing was a complete mess where again i'm on daniel and owen's side if you want to have a discussion about it let's talk about it right now that's what this was brought up for but instead you immediately deflect as if you have nothing to do with this and that's what amanda does and it's really a

And when we see the clips of what Amanda was trying to prove, Danielle always does this to me. She can't have time for me. It's like, well, well, hold on. In those clips, you are actively talking shit on Danielle. You've always actively talked shit on Danielle. And then she doesn't have time for you because she doesn't care about you. She does care about what Paige and Lindsay think. She doesn't really care what you think.

And that's okay too. But you don't get to play victim again, Amanda. That's what we're doing. I'm standing up for myself finally because this is how Danielle treats me. It's like, no, no, you guys. were both the aggressors. If Danielle didn't have time for you and you didn't have time for her, who cares? By the way, not to mention, if we go back and see Danielle's early seasons, she wanted to be friends with Amanda. She wanted to be part of the cool kids. Amanda does what

Amanda does with newbies in the house, fucking stiff armed her, gave her snide remarks, made faces, talked shit behind her back. And Danielle was like, all right, fuck this then. Amanda doesn't like Danielle clocked her fuck what was that five six years ago with the least trust like she saw Amanda for who she was because of the way Amanda had treated her that's why she's like this with Amanda Amanda Amanda would have had a best friend in Danielle she was just even kind of nice because Daniel wanted to be part of that crew but Amanda does not allow people to infiltrate the group

in the summer house that's like her MO she claims to be a girl's girl meanwhile she's just a mean girl. So Danielle knows that. Daniel's not putting up with her shit. Listen to this. Listen to us right now, by the way. It's just again, we're, we're, we're whatever I don't think rock and a hard place really makes a ton of sense here because any time that Amanda does something now, because of all of the things that have come to light, this isn't just we don't like Amanda right now with all the things going on. So, of course, we're going to go against her. This is more for me. All of the things that have come to light have made everything clear with who Amanda is. is in the way that she moves. So now it opens up a lot of different possibilities. This is revisionist history. We're not going back in time and looking at things differently.

We both agree. There were different situations that happened between Danielle and Amanda, but we've agreed they don't need to be friends. That's completely fine. And Danielle has seen now turning a new leaf, becoming friends with Lindsay again, trying things out with baby steps, sitting down with Avon,

who is friends with Lindsay. Like there are opportunities here. And I think that the way that Danielle came about it, and Kyle inserted himself, the episode prior. Like, oh, can my wife get an apology?

Like, no, she can't get an apology. She was an asshole. But Danielle was also an asshole. It's just now we have opportunities where you guys are on the same show and you're forced to talk where maybe you can squash it. Maybe you can just come out and be like, hey,

yeah, we weren't friends. I was just talking shit with my other friends about you. I'm sorry. Maybe we can talk about it now or we can go grab lunch. No, that's a counterpility. Come on.

Not even remotely interested in that, but she wants to play the victim card. She wants to act like, oh, everybody's going to be on my side. side with this one. And that's one of my favorite things is filming this and filming your confessionals. You're definitely sitting there like, oh, no one's going to take Danielle's side in this so I can do whatever the hell I want. That's how Amanda moves. We now see that. So we're

actually against Amanda. 100%. And that's the funny part. It's not, not just because the West stuff. It's not like, everything she does now is evil. Now it's just, it's like, oh, that's who you are. You didn't know that. Now we know that. So now we look at the situation like you said. It's like much different take than it may have been had we not had that information. But like my whole point with it is you are trying to just be malicious. You're trying to hurt her because you say, oh, it's not true then. Dude, come on. Like that you literally just called her a homewrecker, which is pretty fucked.

Like that's a pretty big thing to say, especially with this guy who look, they're pregnant. They're having a baby. So like clearly it's a real thing. like they actually like each other. And that's a fucked up thing to say. And she does it so nonchalant as she always does with everything. You're throwing out damning remarks and you're like, oh, it's not true.

Okay, bye. Like you're too good for her. Like you don't have time for her. Then you go to confessional and say that she's too good for you. Get the fuck out of here. No, you're not going to spit in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Yeah.

That actually applies. That works. Hell yeah. But it does open the door for Lindsay and Danielle a bit more because, Lindsay gets off the trolley to console her and does feel bad for her. And we move on to another scene with them later. Like, how you feel? And, you know, she speaks also to being Latina and the homewrecking thing

carries a lot more weight than maybe Amanda had thought about, which is definitely a valid point. So look, she's going through a lot. There's a lot of aspects of this whole thing. And I think what we can take away is she's trying to move forward. And like that's kind of the overall. vibe that I'm getting is I think she's trying to rewrite her place in reality TV. I think that she sees this whole show as a chance that she didn't think she was going to have

and she wants to come off differently than the Danielle of the past. That being said, you and Lindsay just, and this is so Danielle coded, you guys just agreed to like baby steps and you go so fucking hard like immediately. you're just, why can I see Gemma? Can I come over your plate? I do. Hey, I know. These steps. Baby steps.

It's, and it's just so funny, too, because you can watch that where Lindsay's just checking on you, making sure you're okay. Like, just take a win where you get it, but she can't help it. She truly can't help it. And I love that little, the little quip back and forth. Like, even you wouldn't do that. And Lindsay's like, well, let me think about it. I don't know if I would do that.

Maybe I would do that, but probably not. I don't think we can do that. And I also love to, like, when we're talking about it and when we're talking about Amanda's intentions behind it and we're saying, you know, I don't think that she's thinking of these things. I don't think that she's working all of these things out. She's just doing things. Like she hasn't really thought about the round. She hasn't thought at all. She doesn't care.

That's the big piece. And that's again where we're talking about Lindsay and Amanda sitting down the night prior and talking about all the things going on with West. It's like, no, no, you're giving her too much credit. She's not, she doesn't care. She just truly doesn't give a shit. And I love somebody actually said this. I read a tweet earlier today. I wish I could give them credit.

Amanda's still trying to spin this as life just happens to her. Like, oh, life is just happening to me. And I have to really figure things out. Not that she did things that now life is happening to her. She's not putting that all together. And maybe she never will. But again, until she does, she's never going to take accountability. And like one of her high school classmates came out.

Like that's how far this is going now. because they did so poorly at the reunion. High school classmate comes out and says this was the Amanda that we've always known. She had a friend group that called themselves the nine. And they would just shit on other people all the time. They're like the mean girls in the class. They wouldn't hang out with anybody. And she was just a spoiled rich kid.

And that's who she seems to be now. She gets her way and she's not used to. And that's why she has such a hard time equating action reaction, action consequence. because she's like, well, this just happens to people. Like, this is life, man. Like, no, man. Like, you did something stupid. And now you have the ramifications to deal with.

And even then you're trying to sidestep those. And I do think it's funny. You pointed it out earlier. We're seeing this show through the lens of she thinks that she's got all the support. And he talked about it in the first episode, too, where, you know, this was her glow up. This was going to be her coming out part. like stepping away from Kyle into the limelight. So it's going to hit so much harder in such a different way,

watching this false bravado that she has in her confessionals and her overall attitude towards everything because we know what's going to happen, but she doesn't know what's about to happen. And she's just like, aha, like cocky as shit. It's like you're about to eat a shit sandwich. And I can't wait. I can't wait to watch the shift in confessionals when that happens, which may not happen, I guess.

no timing wise maybe maybe I'm not really sure how that's going to work out we'll have to see later in the other later in the season for sure but yeah

it like same same concept with like sort of telling off Kyle like I can't do this right now I'm out of here like okay whatever dude we're about to get to this scene that shit was crazy I just met at the end of the trolley

when she did oh yeah that too yeah no I thought you met the scene we're about to talk about but I do think it's funny and like again Danielle being like I want to do this one do that let's do this do that Lindsay's telling her pump the brakes and you can tell that she's still hesitant because you know she's talking about Owen and she's like you know we talked about getting married we want to get married want to have kids we're going to do this and like as long as it's definitely like happening and Danielle had a choice to make right there and you saw her working through it as she was talking because she could either clap back and be like hey are you taking their side yeah or she go,

uh, yeah, yeah. You're right. Totally. Totally. Yeah. As long as it's definitely happening, Lindsay, I love you.

I love you so much. So she ate shit and it was fine. That was a nice scene. I look, regardless of how you feel about Danielle, she's on this cast. And this is just to the general audience as a whole. She's going to be on this cast.

We want this show to do well. She needs to find her niche. Her niche is going to be with Lindsay, period. Like she can't function if she's not friends with Lindsay and a non functioning Danielle is so exasperating. I cannot handle it. So I need her to be in a good place with Lindsay so we can all move forward.

Yeah. I fully agree with that. Yeah. I think that it's also fun just kind of going around and find a new TikTok shops. Like, whoa, this pizza's viral. Let's go have some fun. That's always good. I like that.

I actually like that. But the pizza looked fine. I didn't think it was, it didn't blow me away visually. You know, I actually did that. We did that on Friday for a place in Fishtown. And Linguaries. Oh, oh,

was it good? It was fucking awesome. I saw that on Instagram. There's another one in Fish, or is it Fishtown? There's another one down in Queens Village. It's green, green and white logo.

It looks, fuck. I think it's the same one. Yeah. Oh, no, I know which one you're, I can't remember. Yeah,

it looks fantastic. It looks really good. But the one in Fishdown was fantastic. It was fantastic. really good. It is. I also love that too because they're, they're like, yeah, you know, come get some slices. It's a little misleading because it's not like the slices are always available. It's just you get some slices, but hold on, we have to cook the whole pie and then we'll give you a slice of that. You think like going in, you're like, oh, I can have a slice of this, a slice of that. So I say, you're

always going to get a fresh though, which is fine. As long as you're like that. But it has the idea that, you know, slices are going to be on demand. And we've got them ready for you. Like, no, you're going to have to wait a little bit. Which is fine. Yeah, at least it's, It's fresh, but there's give and take there. We can talk about that for too long, so let's keep moving. Let's get to Kenny and Whitney. The PI tracked dad down. They're in Tampa, Florida now, and he got two phone numbers.

Kenny tries to call, no dice. So Whitney takes to Facebook. I don't know how the fuck she tracked them down this fast. I'm assuming there was previous work done to track them down. Because it's pretty, she's like, oh, 65. White woman in Tampa definitely has a Facebook. You're 100% correct. Starts looking.

Bank. Finds her. Finds dad. Finds the address. Goes on people find her or whatever. Finds a number. Calls the number. We get the number.

Hello. And it's Debbie. And the craziest part is she's like, hey, we've been looking for you. And it's like, oh, this is sweet.

I like where this is going. Yeah. Even if Debbie just said that in the moment, like, hey, we've been looking for you too. Just to not let him feel left out. Like it wasn't the negative response that I'm sure was kind of like sitting in the pit of his stomach.

Like, oh, shit. What if I call this woman? And she's like, uh, you? No. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. Or I didn't even know that you existed. One of those things could have sucked.

But it didn't go that way. It went the nice way of we've also been looking for you. That's exactly what he needed to hear. I assume we'll probably build from that. Maybe we even get a drop in. I think I'm excited to see that scary. we saw the picture and we saw the two of them while Whitney was looking up on Facebook she's like I think that's yeah that's definitely your dad because we could see them

clearly that means that they were given a consent to use the picture which hopefully that means giving consent to show up on camera that'll be a really nice meeting I hope so and I hope it's all for the right reasons not to be on TV which I'm not saying it is I'm trying to be sinful I just you know stuff like this is real and like you could see if you watch Kenny when that phone call happens. Like, it legit looks like, and I mean this in the nicest way, like he just took a huge shit.

Like the relief that comes over him when she says, we've been looking for you. It's like kind of a smile. You can see him kind of sink into his seat just like, ah, okay. Like we're moving forward. And that's sweet.

Like it is a really cool storyline. I'm excited to kind of watch this one play out. I hope that dad comes to the city. I hope we're able to see him and get to know more about that. And like Kenny's background, how they got there. I don't know. Like that kind of stuff.

I really enjoy watching. Yeah. Because I think that it's just, like you said earlier, there's going to be so many people watching this at home that can relate exactly to this experience, to a certain extent. So like that stuff's cool. I like when we have nice moments in reality TV, especially lately because things have been so fucking crazy and dark.

I know. So like we need a little. Take it where we can get it. Yeah, for sure. But speaking to dark, let's get the Kyle and Amanda's. So Amanda is sitting on the cat. Gide as the boxes are being packed by the mover,

smile ear to ear, ready to go, talking about moving out into her new house. The lack of negative emotion or compound emotion where it's like, this is so heavy, like, oh, my God, I'm leaving my husband's apartment, moving into my own after 10 years. She's void of all of that. the only time that she gets animated is when they're talking about Kyle apparently coming home late and I would have loved when she's like, who was in my apartment last night or our apartment?

I would love if he's like, my apartment. Yeah. Or if he said, you're leaving my friends. Like he didn't defend himself at all, which was, you know, whatever. It just, it's just, they're in, it's so bizarre when they do things like this because they're in two very different places. Like we know where Amanda is. We watched her sit down with West and Sierra and talk about this exciting new chapter.

And she keeps doing it under the guise of, you know, I'm finally excited to kind of like stretch my wings a little bit, get my own space. But we're still going to be working on our marriage. And I think it's going to look a lot different. And I think that this is really going to help us with this space because we're going to be dating again. Like we've seen her do that time and time again. But we know deep down where she is. Like she's excited to just get her own space and get away from Kyle. and live her life and try to figure things out.

Otherwise, you wouldn't have signed a one-year lease. You wouldn't have done all of those things behind Kyle's back and then brought it to him, which I don't even care about that that much because I know where your marriage is. I know where you guys are heading. We already knew that you guys were getting separated. So when you're talking about getting a one-year lease, again, we're looking at it like, all right, you know what you want, just be honest about it. But she's still trying to make Kyle feel bad.

Now, is it smart to do it the night that she's leaving? That doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. I think that's a fucking boneheaded move to go out for the marathon, then come back and then go back out and hang out with people and then invite them back to your apartment. It's New York City. Those people probably live close by too. You can go back to their apartment and then come back at 3 o'clock in the morning. If that's the conversation we're having, Amanda doesn't really have a like to stand on. His wife is moving out the next day.

I want you here with me so that we can discuss my move out that even though I planned all of these things away from you. And I'm going to do my own thing. But I also expect you to be there for me. like she was incredibly gas lady again we also were duped by editing we thought that it was just kyle coming back with a chick and he was trying to talk to her while amanda was in the next room that would be fucked up i would imagine there was a group of people and there was at least one girl that she could hear her voice and she wanted to talk about that Kyle didn't really feed into it he just kind of stayed silent the whole time which you know whatever but amanda trying to spin this

into like you have no respect this is exactly why i'm doing this like no it's already done it's over Like you already did all of these things. You've already moved out. You're basically done. Kyle's now just kind of scrambling and spiraling, which we've seen them do for the last eight months. That's what you're going to get. Like, that is what it is at the end of the day. But don't try to do it in a weird way and paint it in a weird way where you guys were

going to be sitting on the couch together talking about your relationship the night before you move out against probably all of Kyle's wishes. Yeah. Like that's what made no sense to me. You've made this decision. You're moving out. You behind his back signed a one year lease. when you said you're going to go month to month,

where you guys figured things out. The conversation we saw in the summer house, you were like, it's like a month tops. You really think that Kyle's going to hang out with you and celebrate you moving out? Like, of course, he's going out and getting blackout.

Of course, he's stumbling back in and leaving again. Like, you're leaving to move out for at least a year, probably forever. No, he's not going to come back there and, like,

console you and talk about the good times you had in that apartment. that would be insane. That makes no sense to me. And for her to sit there then and berate him and try and make him feel guilty was just exactly who she is. That's exactly who she is. I'm going to play my victim card right now.

Garner sympathy from the audience. Everyone can see. This is why I'm leaving. You can't even do what I asked you to do. This is an extenuating circumstance. his wife slash girlfriend of 10 years is now leaving. You're leaving today. No, he's not going to hang out with you the night before.

That would be, that would be crazy. That's asking too much of him, I think. And on top of that, I thought it was a great move by Kyle, who wouldn't have probably done this in the past sober. He would have done it drunk, but probably not sober. Be like Friday, Saturday, all you did was smoke weed. Like we had the time to have our last weekend together. You didn't want to do it until the last night.

And then you're only using that to make me look bad because I didn't hang out with you. And pretty much, like I said, celebrate that you're leaving tomorrow, that you're moving out of this apartment. I don't think I would be curious to know if people watch that scene and we're like, oh, Kyle, what are you doing? Like, even with the context of what we now know, I take that out of it. I still don't think he's in the wrong. It makes this is one of the few times where him going out way too. late being a drunken idiot actually made a lot of sense like yeah your wife's leaving you tomorrow like i bet you did need to go get tuned up and like not think about it that yeah that tracks to me

it doesn't mean that it's the right move but it's no and it makes sense and i think that's the thing that i'm looking at a lot when it's kyle and amanda is kyle is doing the things that kind of makes sense for a husband that spiraling right before the separation right before his wife moves out I can't put a finger on any of Amanda's moves. If we didn't know what we know now, if we didn't understand how she moved before this, I think, yeah, obviously you'd be looking at it a little differently, but I'd still be questioning a lot of the things that Amanda's doing.

I'd still be looking and being like, all right, well, Kyle's being him, Kyle's doing the things that we've always seen him do, and we know that he's spiraling. We just watched Summerhouse. So yeah, that makes total sense to me. But Amanda, I don't really get what you want. I don't really understand what you expected this to be.

Like, even if you are and we're supposed, to believe that you're excited about this next chapter of you guys dating again and figuring things out yeah right okay but then you're getting really mad at him and when kyle throws it like yeah i think he's just kind of throwing shit at the wall because he's just being berated he's like yeah you smoked weed all weekend's like yeah again maybe that's not the right call maybe that's not the right move and he's blaming you now for his actions whatever but we would still come back to the same conclusion you guys shouldn't be married this shouldn't be happening so if this is your sendoff Is it really any different than the marriage that we just watched for the last four years?

The relationship we watched for the last 10 years? No, not really. It's pretty consistent from Kyle. It's you that we're questioning. It's you where we don't really understand your motives and you're trying to convince us that he's once again the bad partner. And that's all it gave me was one more chance the last time that we're together like in this apartment. I'm going to make you look bad again. Yep.

Like again, as you said, wasn't the right move from Kyle? Probably not. is it an outrageous move for him to do? No, it's not. You're moving out tomorrow. So he went out and did everything he could to not think about it. So I don't know. I don't know.

And it just looks like she's just trying to make him look like shit. Like that's all I really got from it. Yeah, that could be recency bias. I don't know. I do think that I would still have a similar, similar outlook regardless of what's going on right now. Mm-hmm. I agree. Let's, uh, let's see.

what listeners have to say? First up here from Erlick, she is wearing West's shirt to move out. Yes, I didn't notice that. Oh, I didn't notice that. Yeah, mostly just because it was such a fucking weird outfit that she had on. She always wears a funky-ass outfits.

Like, they're not fashionable. They just look like shit. She was wearing a button up with a t-shirt over top of it, but they were both big, so it didn't really make a ton of sense. And then I was like, wait, who shirt is that? And I definitely have seen that before. It was West. So that, I mean, even more so, you don't get to do this to Kyle right now.

You're wearing the shirt of the guy that you're probably like here's my thing. And now I have to do this. I don't want to do this. You're telling me that you guys have not been physical, that there's no emotional affair going on right now. And you're wearing his fucking clothes on TV. The audacity. And that's what they were doing the whole entire time with the breadcrumbing and leading people on and the Instagram posts and all of this shit. And then the chickens come home to roost.

They're like, I had nothing to do with anything. What? What do you mean? Like, don't spit in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Yeah. Oh, God. From Sarah Guy, 2021. I'm loving this cast of women minus Amanda, of course, but the newbies are killing it.

Yeah. I think that everybody kind of folded in perfectly. I think again, like I said in the beginning, this will be a good show. We just have to get past the Amanda stuff. From Aluminana. Yeah, from Alumiana. The redemption arc for Amanda is looking more plausible by the minute.

I didn't get the redemption arc from her this episode. I think obviously they're going to have to include as many Amanda scenes as possible to try to milk it, but it didn't seem redemption-y to me. No, not really. Ashley 95 Why is Kenny such an asshole Who really likes this guy? I didn't think he was that bad this episode

I do think he was an asshole But I don't think he was that bad Yeah No I actually fully agree I don't think he was that bad in this episode So People are going to think he's an asshole Regardless

I think that's just kind of Comes up the territory Uh Nicolette Honestly what is this outfit she had on? West's west outfit Mm-hmm Sure was

from Jenny Ebersol need more info on their dogs are they splitting them up? I believe we've got a Schwartz and Katie situation going on where they've got shared custody.

I think they split them up for that first night just so everyone had a support animal is what I got from that. I don't think that they would separate them forever because that would be mean for the dogs and the dogs didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, fully agree. Let's see if we got one more in here. Yeah, this is this is applicable. Well, we'll end on this from 77 Carabare 44. Why do you think the West D.D. tried to get Kyle, Lindsay, and Carl fired. We talked about this last night. It seems to me, again, West has main character syndrome.

I think he was doing it from the perspective of we need to let the old guard move on. We've got in the city. Let's get them out of here. I'm the most important person here. I've got a great group of friends. we should all be hanging out in the summer house. That's kind of what I thought. I think it's less malicious in like,

obviously it's malicious regardless of how you look at it, but I don't think it was personally against all of them. I don't think he has beef with any of them. I think that he just thinks that him and his friends would be a much better product, which they wouldn't be. They would just be a cast of clouds. Yeah, I don't need to see an entire crew of West's

in that kind of personality. It worked on the show because you had one of them when we liked him. A gaggle of those guys is, it's just fucking obnoxious. I know groups of people like that. I can't stand them. A murder of West. A murder of West's, if you will.

But yeah, I mean, overall, it's moving in the right direction. Yeah. It's going to be just again, we're going to have to do our best to compartmentalize and not get sidetracked too hard by the Amanda and West stuff. But it's going to creep in every now and then. I think that the best way to do it is to look at Kyle and Amanda's, uh, now with this new perspective that we have. Yeah. And watch these scenes from a different angle because there's a lot more info than we had previously thought.

And that part's interesting. Very interesting. But yeah, that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, that's our show. Rob Brose are out of here. Life moves too fast.

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