Bros & Shows - Vanderpump Rules Recap LIVE FROM CITY WINERY PHILLY!

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

What's up Bro's? For those of you that couldn't make it to our live show, we thought we would share what it's like to have a night out with the Bro's! In this episode, we cover the last days of the Ta...hoe trip. Sandoval meditates with the group, Scheana struggles with her emotions when it comes to her friendship with Tom and Ariana. Lala seems open to some kind of reconciliation with Sandoval. Brock and Scheana still seem to be having some issues. And the episode ends with Scheana and Lala taking some interesting stances when it comes to how they feel about Ariana these days... Are we seeing a Sandoval redemption arc on the show? Or is that production trying to push that narrative???? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 D.C. high volume, Batman. The Dark Nights definitive DC comic stories adapted directly for audio for the very first time. Fear, I have to make them afraid. He's got a motorcycle. Get after him or have you shot. What do you mean blow up the building? From this moment on,
Starting point is 00:00:23 none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a... Oh man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov bros. Philly Philly Get it up a little louder Yeah Yeah, that's better
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah, that's better Should we let to keep playing? Keep the song playing the entire time in the world scene. Yeah, we'll have background music for the whole show. We can... No, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going. I do have a question. Does anybody know what that song is from?
Starting point is 00:01:35 Fuck. Say Goonies? That was Top Gun, and that was the volleyball scene. Yeah. Yeah, so we thought it was fitting for us, especially because the song is aptly named playing with the boys, which is even funnier considering what the scene was. But yeah, so I thought it was fitting for us to walk out.
Starting point is 00:01:50 to tonight. It's just us like playing volleyball on the beach? I would have worn jorts again tonight if you would wear them with me. What the fuck? Nobody said anything about jorts. The scene has like a bunch of sweaty dudes playing in jorts, so I thought you guys would appreciate that, but you know. Doesn't seem like the right athletic attire. My jorts are actually
Starting point is 00:02:07 jagging your jorts. Why do you keep bringing it back to your jorts? Nobody cares about your jorts. I get paid each time I mention jorts. I'm sponsored by the company, so that's why you hear a lot of that. Is there a company called jorts? We're going on to stand you already. They're should be. This is the problem, but this is the problem. Now we've got people that comment on things that we say, so we will interact immediately. Yeah, no, it's, I know that's not what you're here
Starting point is 00:02:28 to talk about is my Jorts, but we're really excited to be out here tonight. This is actually where we started our live show experience. We did a show here about a year ago with Zach Peter, and that was our first ever live show, so it's like bringing it back to where we started, so this is amazing. You know, I'm looking around, this place is packed, which is wild. You guys came out to support, and I fucking love that. Yeah, hell yeah. That's the best. Oh, I forgot to do the thing. I noticed that the New York show.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Nope, nope. I'm introducing it early. Shut up. If I do this, right guys? That's when you get really loud because they did it in New York and it was spontaneous and now I'm forcing it because I like the feeling that it gave me. And this show is about me. Don't do it.
Starting point is 00:03:08 We're not doing this tonight. I don't want to relive that moment. I'm not going to do it yet. Well, look, to start off, I have a disclaimer. My parents are here. They're sitting over there. So I am going to keep it tame. I'm not going to curse.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I love that they got applause. That's insane. See? I'm already tempering myself. I'm not using curse words. Well, for the record, I apologize to his mom before the show. I said, I'm so sorry for anything your son says. I try to control this much.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Shut the fuck up. There it is. There it is. Yeah. But we are excited to talk to you guys tonight about some Vanderpump. Yeah, get it up. We finally had a good episode, I thought. It was actually entertaining.
Starting point is 00:03:48 and like when we plan these things we plan them around what airs like the night before and leading up to this I had this like panicked feelings I texted him I was like dude we're fucked if Vanderpump keeps doing what it's doing because there's nothing to talk about so I was thrilled last night that we got to see an entertaining episode we're going to get to that in a little bit but we thought that well I got to start it off the right way so I am your co-host Steel Russell joined as always by the one and only as he's in my phone Sean Poutchut-Morrison. I like that you saved that finally.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's good. Yep. I've had that in my phone since we were in high school. I have not changed it. He's been Sean Poutchut-Morrison since we were 15 years old, and he'll be Sean Putschut-Morrison until he dies. I don't know how old you were in freshman year, but... 15. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Should you stay back a grade? When does freshman year start? 14. Oh, I was... I don't know. I don't know. What does that matter? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I've seen you do math before. You know, maybe you've got to help back here. You guys have to listen to me struggle to that, and it's really embarrassing because I pride myself on being pretty intelligent, not to toot my own horn. But when it comes to numbers... That's a weird thing to say. That's a very strange thing to say. When it comes to numbers, I'm not very intelligent. So, if you've heard me struggle through, we're getting some feedback.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Are we too close? We're good. I knew it. Are we good? Are we good? Are we good? Are we good? No.
Starting point is 00:05:14 No. Ooh. I'm going to do this. What happened? I don't know. Who's doing that? Okay, we're good. We're good.
Starting point is 00:05:24 But we think we would keep the show pretty normal. It's what we normally do. You guys get to kind of peek behind the curtain and see how things go. The disclaimer I will give you is that when we actually record the show, I get to edit it and I cut things out that he says. It's not just me. Don't blame me specifically. 80% him 20%. It might be me.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We do have a lot of good rants. that go on for a little too long or a lot of good jokes and I'll make an off-color joke somewhere in there and he just looks at me, he's like, no, we can't do it. Yep, and I clap so I know where to edit it out in the actual podcast, but so if you see me clap tonight, that's just like second nature. I'm like, damn it, he did it again, I can't cut it.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But you can't do anything about it. I know, it sucks. But we thought we'd keep it normal, so we're going to start out with a little bit of Rosen Thorne. We're going to do some news. There's a lot of shit happening right now in the Bravoverse. They're trying to force. to be super, super into everything, Vanderpump,
Starting point is 00:06:21 whether that's the Valley and Jackson, Britney's stupid shit going on that we have to talk about. Or, yeah, I know, everything's happening in Vanderpump. There's lawsuits, there's cheating scandals. Jacks has taken pictures with his assistant. There's a lot to talk about theirs. We're going to talk a little bit about that. We're going to go over Miami.
Starting point is 00:06:37 We've got lots of stuff we're going to discuss. We have a packed show for you tonight. Are you guys ready to get it started? Well, I have to do this in every city that we go to because I still think that it's pretty silly that we're allowed to do live shows in front of people and that you actually show up. It's one of my favorite things in the actual world.
Starting point is 00:06:54 So, Philly, how are we doing tonight? And before we get into Rosen Thorne, I'd just like to crack a smile with Bubly. Bubly is our sponsor. It's a shameless plug. It's a shameless plug, but they are actually delicious. We do actually love Bubly. So I think everyone has been at your table.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Enjoy your bubbly while you're drinking your drink. Go back and forth. That's how you stay hydrated. And that's a good thing. So you're not too hung over tomorrow. You're ready? Doing a sponsorship ad right now. So we have some good roses and thorns that we've saved for this actual occasion.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So do you want to start us off there or you want me to go? Yeah, I'm going to start it off. Okay. Because my thorn is very interesting. So I've been holding on to this one for a little while. It's exciting. It goes back to the Reddit thread that we always go to from Watch What Crappens. Has anybody seen this?
Starting point is 00:07:47 this Reddit thread? Oh, it's so fucking funny. There are like, there are 400 comments just about us. It's ruthless. And most of them, I would say at least like 250 of them, are just ripping us apart for various reasons. The funniest one that I saw, which is kind of innocuous,
Starting point is 00:08:03 was they're not even hot. Which like is fine, like in its own right, like if they just left it there, but it was completely unprompted, it made no sense. I'm like where did you get this from? This makes no sense. But an unhinged person may have
Starting point is 00:08:19 clicked on their profile and figured out what else have they commented on what else have they been doing a normal person would have been like you know let's just fucking leave it there so this person commented on so many other things and every single thing was all about their looks
Starting point is 00:08:35 it's 2024 but you know what it was Craig and Austin and it was like they're not even hot oh well if we're on the same level as those guys they're pretty handsome I'll be but it was all bravo-centric guys and every single time it was they're not good looking they're not hot so you know what i don't know what this bar is i don't know where we're gonna where we're gonna find ourselves we're under some sort of bar at some point do you guys think the shooter's pretty
Starting point is 00:09:00 pretty there you go that's what you said it's like an all-encompassing guapo from like the spanish yeah okay yeah um so yeah so that's my thorn i didn't go any further i swear to god are you sure so i may have wanted to look at like what they looked like to get a little barometer. Trying to figure it out. Their Facebook. I will share, because early on, when we started this whole podcast,
Starting point is 00:09:26 Shooter was the one that did not care about comments. I would go to war in the comment section because I would say something snarky. Then somebody would say something snarky back, and then we'd go on this like five comment thread, and I would get a text from Shooter like, dude, stop. I'd like, yeah, you're right, my bet.
Starting point is 00:09:41 When that Reddit thread came out, which is, if you haven't seen it, do yourself a favor, and there. It didn't hit me that hard because it was clearly people that don't listen to us. He came over to record the podcast and he was a little bit down. I was like, dude, what's up? He's like, there's like 400
Starting point is 00:09:57 comments on that thing. They're really mean. They were mean, but like they were different mean. It wasn't just the normal trope of straight guys can't do anything in Bravo. Like, what are they even doing here? They were coming after us. And they were, I mean, they had facts. They had receipts. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:15 Receipts. What is it? Receipts. Proof. Time line. Screen shots. Somebody has a t-shirt in here. Yeah, there you go. Over here. Stand up. Yeah, I'll let's see it. Let's see you the shirt. There you go. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. She was waiting with us to come on stage awkwardly because she had to go in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That's the best part. The best part was us standing by the bathrooms and people were coming out. And like some people walked by and had no idea. They just walked right. I'm like, you're fucking here for us. but you're not going to like acknowledge us standing for the bathroom I think they were trying to play it cool you know they walked by they're like I guess
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm just going to the bathroom but anyway let's get to your rose there champ my rose I actually want to read it verbatim so I've got it this was one of our reviews and this said this is specific to me so don't worry about it pal okay listen I'm back again to say
Starting point is 00:11:09 that I love Shooter McGuder when he made the Chip Skylark reference I had heart up But then he referenced Gullagulla Island, which everybody knows if you watch that as a child on Nickelodeon, everybody knows Gullogal Islands. And I looked over at my fiance and I told him, if we weren't already engaged, I would propose to shoot her. Let me tell you, I posted that on my Instagram. I had 15 other messages, which I just realized, like, what message requests were on Instagram, people that I don't follow. And it's just all the way fucking, like, blocked up.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And there were 15 other messages that said I would also. my husband or a fiance. So apparently, all you want to do to, like, break up a marriage, just reference a couple of Nickelodeon shows. What the fuck? Well, there you go. Shooter's also a homewrecker. Add that to his resume.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I didn't do anything. I'm just here. I didn't even do it. But I've got one from TikTok. I've got two thorns from TikTok that I've saved for a little while. One is just insane. I can't believe that somebody would comment this, and I want to see what your reaction is.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I've got a good roast to finish it out. I like to start with my thorns because I like to finish on a happy note. But this one comes from my Larsa rant. Did you guys see my Larsa rant? I got a little upset. So I went off on TikTok. Hopefully she saw it. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:12:27 But this comes from TikTok and it's from Patrice something. It says, do you know what else is atrocious? Because I said atrocious in the video. You saying that you're going to throw a remote or get violent because of a dumb show. And you don't have to watch anything. Like your anger is not. cute or funny. That was it.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That was it. And I just thought that was funny. Because if you listen to the podcast, as most do you probably do, actually hold on one sec. Are there any actual brav bros here? Are there any dudes that got dragged here tonight? There he is. There they are. It's okay, guys.
Starting point is 00:12:59 We know. It's all right. Hopefully we get you to watch a little bit more Bravo tonight. Because I know, you're like, what the hell? What the hell are we getting into right now? Right? And you're already like, this is lame as shit we want to go home. But, but hopefully you have.
Starting point is 00:13:13 a good time, but I'm glad to see we got some, but he's drinking. That's good. Is that an espresso martini? Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah, I've got six already. Best response to an espresso martina. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Hell yeah, brother. But, as I was saying, if you listen to the podcast, I get heated. I'm an emotional person, as I've been told. I like to say that I'm emotionally charged. So sometimes I get a little heated. And I look over at him, and I don't know if you guys ever watched on YouTube. But if you watch him during my rants, he's just sitting there giggling. And why this one's funny is because clearly this person does listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's all ingest. I'm not actually yelling at these people. It's just really frustrating to watch a woman make a cancer diagnosis about herself. It's the most bizarre shit I've ever seen, which leads me to my next door, because this is crazy that somebody would say this. This is also from TikTok. You don't think Gertie's a little over-dramatic, though? That's the response I was looking for. Yeah, that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Thank God for the people in the front row. Yeah. Are you shitting me? Like, she has cancer. What are we talking about you? This is my whole point, and this is kind of what my point is with Larsa being so, like, ho-hum about it, is it paints it in, like, a not-serious light, and, like, it's a fucking serious thing, and Gertie beat cancer, which is fucking amazing, and looks better with a shaved head than Larsa ever will.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So the whole thing just pissed me off. But, yeah, so that one. Right, guys, right? Right. Yeah, there it is. Let's go. Fuck, don't do it after the fact. You already got applause.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You don't need to double down. I need all the applause. Do it when you make a terrible point, and then you can just like, you know? No, no, no. That was better. Anyway, my rose comes from Jared Barnes. This is on Twitter, and this one is a board. Wait, how many do you have?
Starting point is 00:14:59 This is like three. Bro. You had two thorns and a rose? Yeah. We didn't talk about this. Every rose has its thorns. Don't laugh at that. What the fuck was that?
Starting point is 00:15:12 I'm firing on all cylinders tonight, baby. Buckle up. But this comes from Jared Barnes. This is my rose. And this is the whole point of the podcast. This is what we aim to do. This is why our audience is so special to us. And from Jared Barnes, he says,
Starting point is 00:15:25 you won't regret listening. You instantly feel like they are your friends you're having a convo with. And that's what we aim to do. We want you guys to feel like you're part of the show. We know we wouldn't be anywhere without all of you, beautiful fans. So those kinds of comments when people leave them, they mean a lot to me because that's literally the aim here, is we want you to feel like, you're our buddies, you're our bros.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You know what I mean? And bro is all encompassing. It's genderless. So you're all bros. So thank you so much. And Jared is here tonight in the back. Is Jared here? No, I'm just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I'm like, hell yeah. I haven't met Jared before. But as I said, we've got some news to discuss before we get into the Vanderpump recap. And the first thing I want to talk about, who saw the Jersey trailer? We've got a couple woos, a couple woos, not everybody. Who here likes Jersey? The state or the show? Well.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Hey. What do you mean, hey? Hey, well, hey you. Hey, you're in Philly, all right. We don't like Jersey. But anyway, I'm just kidding. We love the shore. We go to Wildwood.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, I go down Wildwood all the time. Oh, dude, no, don't fucking start that. You're not, you're not quite accepted in the Wildwood yet. That's not true. You've got some time. Sue, where's my mother-in-law? She's over there. She's over there.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Sue, am I in Wildwood? Don't put her on the spot. Damn right. So shut up. We got news to talk about. You're derailing us. Like, let's get on task here. Like I said, the Jersey reunion.
Starting point is 00:16:49 The first and most important question. I need this by a round of applause. Who here is team, Teresa? Wow. Wow. Nobody. Jesus Christ. All right, now we can be happy about that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Whoa. We can talk freely. We don't have death threats. This is the best. This is awesome. This is honestly, this is the best case scenario. I've never. I was so scared about this.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I was petrified. I thought there were going to be Jersey. Like, tree people coming out of the woodwork, getting after us, trying to murder us tonight. Tree stumps, tree people coming out of the woodwork is good enough. That's good. Yeah. I was so worried about all of that. Now we can talk freely.
Starting point is 00:17:27 We can be open. That's insane. Okay. Team Melissa? All right. Wow. How about Team nobody? Team nobody.
Starting point is 00:17:37 That's the one. That's the one. Same here, because I can't sit through another season of watching the Teresa Melissa's shit after the finale last year, all right? We had that whole scene that looked like it was out of the Sopranos where Melissa's like walking away from the pool and like everything's done. She's like, I'm done with Teresa, we're done with this whole thing, I'm moving forward. Do you think that we are actually going to get a season where there's other storylines? Are we going back to the same jersey, the same bullshit as we've seen in the past what, seven years now, eight years, nine years? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Based off of the trailer that I saw, it looks like everybody. is firmly in their own team, which I think is kind of better than what it's been in the past. Yeah. At least we still have battles amongst themselves, and everybody knows which side they're on. And we don't have, like, newbies pop it in just to try to figure out what the hell they're doing. I'm glad we have no newbies. It looks like an actual team battle. I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Weirdly, I have no idea why, because I've been against this forever, but I am okay with what I saw. I liked what I saw, and I liked that we got Fessler. If you didn't see it, Jen Fessler is apparently playing both sides now, so we like that. We got a double agent in the works. We get another Sopranos reference in there? I mean, yeah, she's a narc. She's going, no, that's mean. She's not.
Starting point is 00:18:47 No, I meant that she fucked James Candlefino. Oh, that's right. Yeah, she had sex with Tony Soprano. That's a great point. Yeah, no, yeah. Yeah, no. My dad. But, no, I'm looking forward to the season.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And, like, this happens every time we watch any show. We get through the season, we're like, let's be honest. A lot of the Housewife seasons the past year and a half have not been what a lot of people have been used to. We can talk about Atlanta. We can talk about Potomac. Why? Who the fuck said that? Guys.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Don't tell him about Potomac. We know better. Potomac was my first love in the housewives realm. Don't all that. Leave me alone. My wife, Dev, who's here. Let's give it up for Dev. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:33 She's mortified. She hates the attention. But we're trying to get her on the podcast. Hopefully in the next five years will happen. but we'll see. But that was her favorite franchise. So after I dove into Vanderpump, that's where I got my start in the Bravoverse.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So these dudes back here, the guys that hate us already, you guys, when you get started on the show, Vanderpump's an easy one to watch season one. It's a quick watch. It's an easy watch. I found myself watching six episodes while my wife was asleep when she introduced it to me, and I got finished with it, and I was like, ah,
Starting point is 00:20:04 it's like, what now? Like, I need more. And she's like, well, we got to get in the housewives now. So we did Potomac and New York. I loved Potomac. I thought it was just gold. It was such good TV. Their comebacks are so quick, so sharp.
Starting point is 00:20:18 The Grand Doms, the shit. It was such a great show. In the past two seasons have stolen my joy. And Shooter doesn't let me talk about it. He doesn't let me open up and just say, hey, man, I need to vent because I'm sad. And he goes, we're fucking over it. Let's move on. You vented an entire episode.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Well, it hurt. We don't need it anymore. It doesn't matter. You're actually doing more in one of our episodes about Potomac than everybody on Potomac is doing. This is the support I get. This is what I get. That is what I could do with. That is support.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That's not support. You need friends to tell you when you're being dumb. This is tough love. Yeah. I don't care for it. Yeah. I don't like it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:55 All right. Well, you're better for me. Let's talk about the Valley. Who here is a... Ah, yep. Who here is a... Yeah, do we have to? I kind of want to skip it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 We kind of have to only because... do you think that all the Jackson-Britney shit is it's all for publicity right duh yeah right like it's so forced and this is my issue and this is what worries me about vanderpump as a whole and what's happening in the vanderpump universe I think that I mean obviously scandal was so polarizing it was this ridiculous insane cheating scandal that rocked the world it was at the White House committee dinner ariano was there we've had senators quote shit from it like it got out of hand can we agree with that like it got a little bit out of hand. We were party to it. I'm not absolving us of our sins, but I think it got
Starting point is 00:21:43 a little bit out of hand. I think that the Vanderpump producers are like, we got to capitalize on everything now. We're going to bring everybody back. We're making new shows. Vanderpump Villa, the Valley. We're bringing Jacks back. We're bringing Britney back. Can we bring Stasi back yet? No, they still think she's racist. Okay, we can't bring her back to sleep her out of it. That would have got cut from our original show. That would have gotten cut. See? You're already starting. Okay, fine. Good job. Fair enough. You set a precedent. Now I can do whatever I want. But let's get serious about the Valley for just a split second and we can move on. I know you don't really want to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:22:13 We don't have to get serious about the Valley. Like with this show, I want to know how it could be successful. Everyone knows the obviously, like, the pitfalls that could happen with this show, why it's not going to be good. No one's expecting shit. How could it be good, genuinely? It's a terrible question. It can't be good. The people that are in it, it cannot be good.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You don't think there's any hope for this show at all. No. Not even remotely. You can't have somebody like Jacks leading the charge in a show. It just doesn't work. I agree with that, but is there, I mean, maybe there's a cast member that we haven't met yet that's going to, like, wow us out of nowhere. No, but, like, they're all taught by Jacks, presumably.
Starting point is 00:22:57 You think that he's... But everybody on that show is, I, there's a word that I want to use that I'm not going to use. Okay, thank you. Yeah, thank you. But that is pretty much, like, the entire cast, I mean, aside from Doty and we've, met Doty's boyfriend. We didn't meet Luke. He's a dud. As far as like, as far as reality
Starting point is 00:23:14 TV goes, he's a dud. Super nice guy. But like that doesn't convey to good reality TV. He couldn't even talk during the interview that we had with the two of them. We didn't even know we were going to interview him. He just popped up and he's just there. Steele and I made fun of of his shirt for a half an hour and he didn't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:23:30 That's true. Did you guys watch our Doty interview like a while ago? Yeah. I don't think Luke knew what he was getting into because we didn't know we were interviewing the both of them. We just thought we were interviewing. Doty. We're like, oh, sick. This is awesome. To be fair, we never really have a plan. We just go into this. We wing it a lot.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We just start talking and then we just start making fun of people. It usually works out, right? So we did that, and Luke pops down. He's a super nice guy, but he's from like Montana or some shit and moved to L.A. So Doty, like, put together his wardrobe. Somebody goes, oh. He's from, he's from St. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. He's from St. Louis. He's from Montana or something.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That's the same thing. I also love that you preface it by saying he's a super nice guy. He's a super nice guy. As if you're not going to bash him and that's not going to take away from anything. Well, it's like, he's from St. Louis, which we, there's somebody else who's from St. Louis. That's also a piece of shit. Andy. No.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I was like, whoa. San Deval. Jesus. She put it in my head. No. You put it in my head. All right. We love Andy.
Starting point is 00:24:28 We're going to switch out front row seats with somebody else. You've lost your privileges. You can't do this anymore. It's like subliminal messaging going on up here. That's true. Oh, that is. But now you're comparing, you're worse. I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You're comparing Luma. How am I worse? You said that they're both from St. Louis implying that they're similar to some way, shape, or form. I didn't say that. Would you rather be compared to Sandoval or, no, I already know the answer to this. Yeah. Or from Montana.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Montana's a beautiful state. I don't know what we're talking about. Sure, but the people. Whoa. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't know if I trust people. What was I talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:03 This is what happens, and I got to rail it back in. Oh. So this nice gentleman, Luke, was on the podcast, and Doty even admittedly, or he did actually, was like, yeah, I don't have like L.A. clothes. So she took me to go get some L.A. clothes at Zara. At Zara. So we, but she told us this before he got on camera. So then he pops up. He goes, hey, guys, I'm Luke.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And we're like, dude, it's sick shirt. He looks, like, he straight up had a Dan Flash's shirt from I think you should leave. Like, the patterns are so fucking crazy. Everybody wants this goddamn shirt. It's a bunch of guys that look like me and we're fighting over this shirt. That was Luke and we made one joke about it and he shut down.
Starting point is 00:25:43 He never said it. Don't all. He can't handle himself. How's he going to be on reality TV if he can't handle himself between us? That's a good point. Are we mean? Are we mean?
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Starting point is 00:27:25 Hot. I think we just be super sorry. Someone said yes. I think we said. Yeah, I heard that too. That's better than the New York show. within five minutes, somebody in the front row called me a pussy. That's a true story.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I know. Because we were on... I kind of wanted it at all for that. Yeah. No. It was like, we were on Watch What Happens Live, and we were with Heather Gay, and we got all of these questions, like, in our DMs, and the comments, they're like, man, you guys really blew it. You had a chance to give it to Heather, and he didn't say shit. I'm like, what are we
Starting point is 00:27:57 supposed to do in that moment? Yo, Heather, you suck. Like, I didn't understand, like, the whole thing. Yeah, have you ever seen a bartender on Watch What Happens Live? talk for more than like 30 seconds? No. And do they spend that time bashing the guest? No. Yeah. So it's like a crazy thing to insinuate. But somebody
Starting point is 00:28:14 in the front row when I told that story goes Pussy. I was like, sweet. We're off and running tonight. So thank you guys for not insulting me yet. I'm sure we'll get there at some point. You know, it's still early in the show. Why is it think you're the only one that gets insulted? That's actually a good point. I don't know. I'm the nicer one too. That's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:28:30 That's probably why. Pussy. What did you say? Keep on. Okay, cool. You just call me your pussy? Okay, cool. Each show, I guess, is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But we do need to discuss Beverly Hills before we get to Vanderpump rules. Because, yes, we do. Yes, we do. Okay, because a lot's happening. This is our show. We're going to do whatever the hell we want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't care about this part of the crowd. I'm actually going to start opting in some different tables over here. Yeah, we do some wireless mics. We're going to start shifting around the room to get better responses from our front row. You guys are great. We're just kidding.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But with the Beverly Hill stuff, we had an entire season once again where Kyle doesn't say shit, shit, she doesn't share, she doesn't share shit, great. She doesn't share shit all season. She has all of these teasers that we're going to get to the storyline between her and Mo, Morgan Wade, we get a couple of poppins from her. We don't get a whole lot of answers. The season ends, we get like what, four minutes with those two actually talking and they include their children, which was a bizarre move. Wasn't that crazy? Like, let's traumatize all of you real quick, especially you, Porsche, who's like 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We want this on camera. We want to see your heartbreak. That was awful. I could not believe that, like, this is when we bring the kids in. All right, you sit there. We've got to make sure we can see you crying. No, cry more.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Perfect. But watch the first two episodes of buying Beverly Hills. We got more answers out of that than we did from the fucking season. So I'm getting sick and tired of Beverly Hills. I don't know if I'm the only one, but I feel like it gets a pass all the time. Are you sick and tired of Beverly Hills or are you sick and tired of Kyle? All of it, all of it, all of it, because I thought that this season, we've discussed it a little bit. Like, Sutton had a good year.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Erica had a good year. You know, there's conflicting remarks there because the stuff that came out. Yeah. Yeah, so you're always going to get that with such a fucking, but we both agreed. Like, Sutton is awesome. She's a friend of the show. We love her. She can't carry.
Starting point is 00:30:34 You cannot say that she's a friend of the show. We get accused of being on payrolls. Babying all the people that we're friends with. But I'm not babe. I'm saying right now she can't carry the show. She's not the main character. She did a good job this season. She stepped up when she had to.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But she's not going to give you that main character energy for an extended period of time. And if you look across the board, I don't feel like there's any housewife on that show that's really bringing it, giving us a peek into their actual life. Like, we don't get to see a whole lot of shit. Crystal has a $100 million company. She's married to the Lion King, and we don't talk to them ever. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And she gets a shit edit, according to her and some of the other people on production, so, like, we can't blame her all the way. But my point is, at what point do we stop just giving Beverly Hills a pass because it's fucking Beverly Hills? Right, guys? I love that so much. And the problem now is that I actually pause for that. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So innately, I'm waiting for the applause for you. Hate that. I don't know. I just think that Kyle had such a silver platter this year of you could just talk about this. You can get some sympathy. You can lead us through the entire thing. And everybody's going to be on your side. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Especially now after Mo posted that weird-ass bathroom video where he's like dancing to some fucking techno colors. Like, oh, yeah. They, like, look at me. And we see pictures of him just pouring shots in girls' mouths. No, it was champagne. He was, like, skiing in a thong. Whatever the hell. Is that the problem that it was champagne and not shots?
Starting point is 00:32:10 No, I just feel like it. Did you need to stop me there? If you're painting the picture of, like, champagne's like, whoa. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's more. You get it. Don't do it. I'm not doing it there.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I said, you guys get it. You were going to do it. Settled down. You were about to. Anyway, no. I feel like there was such a different route that we could have taken, and it would have been so much better, and it's not, because Kyle withheld all of her information the entire year,
Starting point is 00:32:36 and the fact that we're getting more from the Netflix show is insane, and Bravo has to be scrambling. Bravo has to be so angry about this, and I wish the reunion was taping now, because then Andy can say, what do you think about the fact that Moe is talking about your marriage on Netflix, and you're not talking about it on Bravo? Because I want to know what Kyle's thoughts are.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I do, too, and I think that's the biggest. issue I have is that, you know, whatever's going on there. There's cheating rumors about Mo. There has been for a very long time. We know that. I'm under the impression that something happened there and it was like the last straw. She's like, fuck this. I'm done. I'm doing my own thing, which is fine. You know, we're not vilifying her for the route that she's taking in her life. If she wants to change things, mix it up, try some new things, whatever. Who the fuck are we to say, don't do that. My issue with it all is, is that if you're going to flaunt certain things on social media in the public, make a music video where you and
Starting point is 00:33:28 Morgan Wade, who you're allegedly dating, are, like, licking things off of each other and kissing, then just give us, like, what the fuck's going on? Because we're just going to continue to speculate and speculate and speculate. And it's getting to the point now we're like, I'm so sick of Beverly Hills. I'm sick of Kyle and Mo. I'm sick of this horse shit. If you want to sail off into the sunset, fucking go. Stop dragging us with you. But who do you actually, like, I mean, obviously we blame Beverly Hills for what they're, we blame Kyle for what she's doing in Beverly Hills. But do you also blame Bravo for pushing it down our throats. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like, we don't care. Like, if we're not getting any new information, I don't give a shit anymore. It doesn't matter. And, like, we've heard through the grapevine, like, when it comes to Kyle on the show, Kyle gets a pass with production. She gets to point the needle kind of where she wants to go, what she wants to talk about when there's big events. They're usually
Starting point is 00:34:16 handed to her. Like, we know this. You guys probably think that, I can confirm, yeah, she gets a much better edit, cut, and more input as to what's happening on the show. So, you would think that maybe she would have the pulse of what we, the audience, want to watch just a little bit more, but that's crazy, because who the fuck cares about us, right? Bravo doesn't. Neither do the celebrities. So,
Starting point is 00:34:37 or Bravo Leberties, my bad. But that's my issue with Beverly Hills. That's what I just needed to like get that out. Good job. It feels better. Way to get it out. It feels better. You're better? You're ready to go? I think we're ready to go. Are we ready to talk about some Vanderpom? So I was nervous about this season before the season even started. Because, I thought that they were going to do something that would not work. And that was try to just recapture what happened last year. And that was insane because we've never seen anything like that. That was the most explosive season of reality TV, arguably in the history of reality TV.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Nothing has captured the world like that from the reality TV standpoint. Or was it just the last two episodes? I think it was the whole season only because we knew what happened. So like you and I were watching each episode with like a fucking bad. magnifying glass, like, did she smirk? Did she smirk at that time? What is Sandoval doing when Raquel walked in? Which, by the way, is a very tough, and all the time that you think about podcasters, we do have it really hard, all right? We have to watch these shows with a magnifying glass. We need to analyze everything that's going on. It's not all roses. It's not all flowers
Starting point is 00:35:50 for us. Sometimes it's thorns. This is hard work. What? I said sometimes it's thorns. You're supposed to be on my team. Don't. That was your team. Oh, okay. All right. That's like a good. Yeah, we have it really hard. We have to watch these shows very analytically. We don't get to enjoy them anymore.
Starting point is 00:36:05 That's not true. That's not true. I still enjoy them when they're good. Not Vanderpump. Vanderpump had a good episode, finally. I'm cool with that. I want to see where it goes from here. We're about to jump into it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But the funniest thing to both of us, and this happened during OC, because we hate OC. Who clapped? Sheila. Don't point them out specifically. I'm sorry. You're supposed to gesture to the press. out, no, dude. You don't point people out specifically. Who was that? No.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's my bad. I apologize. Who to fuck said that? Who the fuck said that? No. So, the funny thing to us is that while we were watching O.C., we were pretty open about the fact that we were not happy with it. We weren't happy with what we were watching. It was dragging on way too long. Tamara. And you idiots
Starting point is 00:36:50 made us watch it. That was the funny thing. You made us hate watch it because those were our highest rated episodes. Was us complaining about the show over and over again. so now that we have you all in one room I want to say I'm just kidding no but you got literally those are our
Starting point is 00:37:06 most listened to episodes so we got to this point like three quarters of the way through the season and we were like can we stop watching no and we looked at the numbers were like we really can't then we looked at the comments we put a poll out on Instagram and we said can we stop watching OZ please and you all said
Starting point is 00:37:24 no yeah keep going it was a resounding no you have to watch this. We're going to force you because we like hearing you be miserable. But hey, if you guys listen, you want to hear us, hate listen to stuff, we'll do that too. But to what you said, I definitely still enjoy a lot of the show. So that's not true. But
Starting point is 00:37:39 are you ready to talk about Vanderpun finally? I'm ready. I brought my notebook. If I get mad and throw it, I apologize, just duck, you know? Just get out of the way. But we start off this episode with Sheena and Lala. And as we have come to find out, as
Starting point is 00:37:56 Shina's starting to talk a bit more, this is affecting her a lot more than she has been open about with up until this point. We've heard her talk a little bit, but as she's talking to Lala, they're talking about Sandoval, and we find out that during the entire pandemic, and this is also confusing to me, because why do these people always run out of money? Why does she not have money? Well, her podcast got canceled. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Look, guys, here's the thing. If our podcast got canceled, we'd be on the streets, but how do we, but that's my point. We'd be outside of city winery right now with fucking tin cans. Like, hey, bud. Wearing old tattered brav-brose merch, because that's the only clothes we have now. The T-shirts you didn't buy. That's our wardrobe. That was such a guilt trip.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. Yeah, that's how you plug merch. There is merch. Yes, there is. It's right back there. You can buy it after the show. Anyway, no, but it's genuinely confusing where, like, she's like, I had no money. And the podcast got canceled.
Starting point is 00:38:57 If we lose sponsors or whatever, like, if that happens, it's one thing. But, like, I don't know how you cancel a podcast. I'm just saying how you cancel a podcast. I think it was just not picked up by whatever manager she had. The network gave her the boot? I don't know, dude. I don't know. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I didn't read that far into it. Why? You're just... Why does she not have money? But that's not the point. The point is Sandoval, pay... But we've seen her house, which is always very troubling to me to go back to her and Brock's house.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I don't like their townhouse. I hate their home. I don't either. It's weird. It's very weird. Like, what's the balcony? It looks like they, like, screened in a porch. I don't know. And that's their living room.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You know, I'm not trying to bash anybody's house. It looks like Bravo built a community for their celebrities, like, 50 years ago, and, like, they still live there. These are the Bravo dorms. There's the cafeteria. But, well, they did just buy a new house, and then Brock had to sign over his rights to the house, which is really confusing. Again, very confusing. And I think that maybe, I don't know. So he said that they might be.
Starting point is 00:39:57 declaring bankruptcy, they said that they might be getting divorced. We don't really know. We do see how Brock talks to Sheena. It's not great. So I don't know. I don't know. There's something going on there. She is annoying, for sure. 100% correct. You're not wrong. I agree. But I'm just saying. There seems to be trouble in paradise. But while they're discussing things, she's talking about how much she's struggling with this. And I think that we all see that. I think that we notice that she's kind of getting pulled one way. And we all called this and when we discussed what this season is going to look like, the obvious answer is, well, Scandival, or sorry, Sandoval redemption arc, because that's what we see. We get the villains on the shows the next year.
Starting point is 00:40:35 That's how they try to frame it. And whether you like him or not, I hope that we don't love that guy. But if you see how they're editing this season, that is what they're trying to push. They're trying to push this redemption story for Sandoval, and they're actually, in my opinion, trying to paint Ariana as kind of a bitch. And it's kind of weird, especially considering, and he reminds me this all the time, and I'm glad he does. He's like, dude, this is three months later. It's only three months. It's still very fresh.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So I try to keep that in my mind when I'm analyzing things. But with the Sheena part of everything, do you understand why she's getting pulled both ways? Or do you think that this is, because we see it a little bit later, and we'll talk about the end of the episode, which was much different than the beginning of the episode, as far as Sheena goes, do you think that she genuinely is being pulled both ways?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Or do you think that she's getting pushed towards Sandoval because Ariana's not giving her feeling, any merit. No, not at all. I think she is an idiot. Oh, okay. I think overall, I think she's an absolute moron, and she has no idea what she wants, and she's just responding to people being nice to her. Like, she is, what's the phrase? A picnic girl. Or she's like a guy's girl, where it's like, I want to be friends with anybody who's very nice to me, and she's going to sit here and talk to us about the PayPal that Sandoval said to her. And this is the thing about Sandoval. We know how manipulative he is. Yeah. There's guys.
Starting point is 00:41:57 to be a reason why he sent her money. And it's not because he's really friends with her. It's because he wanted something else. I don't really care what it is. None of that really matters. So her saying that on screen doesn't matter to me. I don't think that Ariane is really being cold enough to her that's going to push her in the different direction. She's giving her a very cut and dry after three months of a very public and embarrassing situation. Hey, if you go back to this asshole, I'm not going to be friends with you. I think it's very cut and dry. I really don't think it's that big of a deal. I know. And Sheen is making it a big deal because Sandoval's funny and she's friends with her. That's really all it is. I just don't really
Starting point is 00:42:34 understand the whole thing. Well, I mean, look, it's tough because had we not seen what Sandoval is doing in like the media right now, which is astounding that he's going on like the vile files and being an idiot. And then he's going on a podcast with Billy Lee and playing Merry Fuck Kill with Ariana involved in that, which is wild. So he's not doing himself any favors. And that's the thing with the editing this year, had he not come out, like, in the last month, being a total dip shit, I do think that we'd be seeing
Starting point is 00:43:02 a lot of people, not being Team Sandoval by any means, I do think we would see a lot more people lightening up. I mean, like, it has been going on for a while, and we're seeing that amongst the group, which I figured would happen. I don't think it's happening because they're actually like, well, we can't crucify him forever.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I think we're starting to see jealousy amongst some of the girls in the group. I think that they're looking at Ariana, everything that she's gotten from this. Rightfully so. Look, she went through shit. It was a fucking disaster. So get your comeuppance for sure. Go star in Chicago. They got picked up for an extension. Like, she's killing it. So it's great. But Lala, she feels like she was in a similar situation with Randall. Okay. Now she is definitely starting to, we see it starting to leak out in this episode. We know we get that clip later in the season where she's like, I've never
Starting point is 00:43:49 seen somebody get cheating on. And suddenly they're God. So like, it's boiling over. So I don't know. think that they're using Sandoval and how he's been treated and how he comes into this group like a hurt puppy dog until you ask him for an apology, then he tells you why you're wrong, which again, fucking insane. But that's my take on it. I think that we're starting to see it boil over where they're looking at what Ariana's doing and being like, well, what the fuck? Like, you got cheated on and you're God. Yeah, I don't know. No, I think it's a completely different aspect. I think that they know that they need to be friends of Sandoval for the show to work.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I think that they're all self-serving. I think that they all understand that this show doesn't work unless they're friends with Tom, or at least like there's some sort of semblance of friendship in there, that he can be around with them. And he, at this point in time, Vanderpump needs Tom Sandoval. Unfortunately. Without him, the show sucks. There is nothing going on. There is no show.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I don't understand the jealousy. Like, how high can your jealousy get to the point where Ariana's affair, well, I guess Sandoval's a fair, made you money. So why are you now jealous of Ariana? Because she made more money. But that's the problem. You made way more money than you would have ever done. Like Katie and Ariana would have had to open their sandwich shop by now, which is still not open.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I know. To make money. If this didn't happen, they'd have to do that to make more money and enjoy their lives. Now, they don't have to worry about it anymore because Tom cheated on Ariana. Lala would also have to do something to make more money. If Tom didn't cheat on Ariana. She would have none of the All the money that she made, yeah
Starting point is 00:45:26 So all of those things come into play I honestly in a very weird way They're thankful for Sandoval Because of what he did I don't think that's like I think that's pretty obvious I think yeah but like I think that's why they're open to Forgiving him at this point Oh it's like a thank you
Starting point is 00:45:43 It's like kind of a thank you Thanks dude thanks for being a piece of shit You made me a lot of money I appreciate that And Ariana's still not being nice to them and giving them ultimatums, they're picking a different side. But that's my thing, and that's the only, I'm not even to say ding, because I don't want to, she has every right
Starting point is 00:45:58 to set boundaries and be like, look, if you're going to be friends with this dude, I can't be friends with you. My problem is she claims, she's like, I'm not giving ultimatums, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying, if you're friends with him, I'm not going to be your friend, which is an ultimatum. Yes, literally an ultimate. The definition,
Starting point is 00:46:14 yep. So, I think that there's a, like, a middle ground here where it's like, I don't think she needs to budge, and I think Ariana is vindicated in the thing she's doing. I'm not trying to say she's not, but taking out the fact that Sheena tends to be attention-seeking and all those things. When you're... Don't... I didn't say anything. I fucking saw the mic. Let me adjust my microphone. Maybe it was a muscle spasm. You don't know what the hell is going on. It was a mustache spasm? Mustache spasm? That's a good one. We'll save that one. Let's keep that.
Starting point is 00:46:46 What? Shut the hell up. Nobody asked you. Yeah, but what was I talking? Mustache Spousin really threw me. It really threw me off. We're just going to move on. You guys get it. Oh, Ariana. My point with that whole thing is, I think that there is a middle ground with her where it's
Starting point is 00:47:05 like, Sheena is your friend. Sheena was fucking ride or die throughout this entire thing. You can't deny that she wasn't. She makes a point every time in this episode that she says something about Sandoval at the end of it, because to her credit, she knows she's on TV and miced up. don't get a lot of that self-awareness in the Bravoverse. They say really dumb shit, and they're like, how'd you know? It's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:26 That's a camera. That's a mic. But she, at least at the end of each scene, she's like, I'm really struggling, like we had this 15-year friendship, and I just need to release the hate out of my heart. And Lala's like, yeah, I know. She's like, yeah, but I'm team Ariana for life, though. I got her back till I die.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Like, I'm not giving up on her. So she always covers her back. But why can it never be about Sheena? It can never be about Sheena. No. That's maybe my favorite. I know, so good. It was really good. And we'll get to that. But that's my only thing is, like, I do think there's a space where Ariana could at least be like, hey, a little more sympathetic to it. It's like, dude, I know you're going through it. I'm sorry you're going through it. I can't help you through this one because of how close I am to it. Like, something along those lines. I'm not saying, like, this is just my opinion. I just feel like she could be a little bit lighter when it comes to Sheena because I do feel like by being this firm with everybody, it's counterproductive because she wants this friend group to come back. and hang with her. She doesn't want them to go to Team
Starting point is 00:48:21 Sandoval, and I think that by being this firm, you're kind of pushing people that direction. I think they're kind of opening the door for him, because if they're like, well, she doesn't give a shit about my feelings, what's up, Tom? That's what I'm getting, and we're seeing it happen. Of course, Schwartz fell immediately because it's Schwartz, but then
Starting point is 00:48:37 we got Sheena. Fucking Lala. Like, I never saw Lala bending, not that she bent the knee, but to go back to him and be like, she fucking hated this guy. She made a lot of money off this guy. She bashed him for months and months and months on the podcast, it is four months later. And she's on a boat saying, I get it, dude, let's hug this out. I just need an apology. That doesn't track for me. But if you count in that Ariana is, one, they're jealous of her, and two, being a little standoffish,
Starting point is 00:49:04 rightfully so, I think that it's counterproductive. I think she's pushing people towards them. I don't know. I still think that Bravo production is doing her dirty. At this point, we know what they want. They want us to think that Ariana is being outlandish. She's making demands of her friends that don't really make any sense and we're supposed to look at her like all right you need to get over it which is fucking insane it's insane it's not even four months later
Starting point is 00:49:28 like we're still sitting here watching this and now we're supposed to feel sorry for Tom because he's writing in a journal that's a good point which by the way which by the way I told you on the ride down here I screenshotted him writing in his journal just so I could read his journal
Starting point is 00:49:42 it was so funny dude yesterday was maybe the crazy day of filming I've ever had since I started filming here, all right? And at some point in time, they've redacted, like, half of them. That's the best part. Why? What are you redacting from Tom Farrell?
Starting point is 00:49:59 It's like a CIA document. You can't read this part. It's the dumbest thing. Like, what are we redacting? Like, did he say in the middle? I'm going to stop, actually. Those are song lyrics of a new single I'm working on. You can't leak into the public. Me and Jason, who's in love with me, my drummer. Fuck that guy. Let me tell you a story about Jason. All right. If you haven't heard this one, we've told it on the podcast before.
Starting point is 00:50:18 They've all heard it. been here. Do you guys want to hear a story about Jason? No. So, as I was saying, Jason is the drummer in Tom Sandoval and the most extras. He's also his social media manager, his manager, and I think he has a big crush on Sandoval because you watch the way he looks at him when he walks in a room. He's just kind of like in the back, like, that's my lead singer. But Jason, so like, back. Sandoval posted a video of him singing Electric Love, and I saw, this is before Scandival happened,
Starting point is 00:50:55 and begrudgingly, I was a Tom and Tom fan for a very long time. I liked both of them. You had the hats to prove it. I do, I really do. But that's another story I can tell you. Did burn those? What's up? Did you burn those? No, I was going to burn them for a TikTok, and then I got to do it. Always gonna. Wow, that's fucking rude. Just in case
Starting point is 00:51:11 they come back, you know? That's pretty rude. Oh, that's a good point. That wasn't meant to be a good point. Okay, thanks. Tom, apologies. I don't get, I'm not a tomapologist. But anyway, so he sings Electric Love and I watched it. I was like, wow, that was actually an entertaining cover.
Starting point is 00:51:26 So I, like, reposted it, and they reached out to us. And it was Jason. He says, hey, I'm Jason. I'm the drummer. We have a show in L.A. We want to give you guys some free tickets. You can come to the show, post, or whatever. We're like, fuck, yeah. We couldn't go because, you know, we have actual jobs. We don't make enough money to just fly out to L.A. and go see a shitty
Starting point is 00:51:43 cover band, so we didn't go. But we auctioned off. We did, like, a giveaway, and somebody went in our stead. But this is how we met Jason, all right? Fast forward, Scandival breaks. We start posting some shit about them, you know, both of us talking smack. Jason reaches out to us via Tom Sandival and the most extras accountant and says, hey, guys, it's Jason here. There's a lot. It did say that.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It did say that. Hey, guys, Jason here. This is how I remember it. So my version's better. Hey, guys. Jason here. and Jason proceeds to tell us there's a lot of hate being thrown around right now
Starting point is 00:52:21 and I think you guys should reserve judgment until you hear Tom's side to which we replied we don't fucking care about Tom's side and he blocked us so that was the end of our relationship with Jason wait you added a new wrinkle to that story that I really want to talk about
Starting point is 00:52:36 let's talk about it so Tom had a cover of electric love that you liked yeah when the fuck did that happen you don't remember that? I don't remember that I don't remember you liking it. That's when it started. So do you still like it?
Starting point is 00:52:49 No. Why? Because of who he is? What the fuck are you calling out of? Are you not separating the art from the artist? I don't... Oh, this is gaslighting. Gaslighting's not real.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I told you before you made it up in her head. I have to go to therapy because of this podcast, but we're sponsored by BetterHelp, so they make it easy. Scott liked that Scott our producer's like Fuck yeah free plug But no So I did I enjoyed the cover
Starting point is 00:53:23 I'll be honest I enjoyed the cover So Jets That was our story With Jason One more quick Vanderpump So we'll get back to the recap Because this one was interesting too
Starting point is 00:53:30 When everything was popping off Somebody that works on production Like behind the scenes Not like a producer on Bravo But she works with a lot of the cast She's on the show A couple of times You'll see her like the background
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Starting point is 00:55:03 You might know me from the League, VEP, or my non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters. We come together to host Unspool, a podcast where we talk about good movies, critical hits. Fan favorites, must-season, and in case you missed them. We're talking Parasite the Home Alone. From Greece to the Dark Night. So if you love movies like we do, come along on our cinematic adventure.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Listen to Unspooled wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget to hit the follow button. Goodbye, summer movies, hello fall. I'm Anthony Devaney. And I'm his twin brother, James. We host Raiders of the Lost Podcast, the Ultimate Movie Podcast, and we are ecstatic to break down late summer and early fall releases. We have Leonardo DiCaprio leading a revolution in one battle after another,
Starting point is 00:55:47 Timothy Salome playing power ping pong in Marty Supreme. Let's not forget Emma Stone and Jorgos Lanthamos' Bagonia. Dwayne Johnson, he's coming for that Oscar in The Smashing Machine, Spike Lee and Denzel teaming up again, plus Daniel DeLuis's return from retirement. There will be plenty of blockbusters to chat about, too. Tron Ares looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat 2, and Edgar writes, The Running Man starring Glenn Powell.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. One, do you guys want TomTom Hats? And I was like, I mean, I guess we'll take them. It's kind of pointless now, but sure, why not? I appreciate it. Two, do you want to talk about this and me give you like some of the inside scoop?
Starting point is 00:56:28 And I was like, ooh, fuck yeah. I was like, what's up? And she's like, no, no, no, we've got to do it in person. So now I'm like, oh, I don't know you that well. But why don't we meet at the gym that I work at? There's other people there. We go to the gym. And she...
Starting point is 00:56:42 Safe space. I feel safe at the gym. And she shares with me everything. Drops all of the stuff that you guys all know now. There's nothing like groundbreaking that you haven't heard. But I was so gassed up because we were recording the next night. And I was like, dude, I got so much good shit that we can talk about. I shit you not.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I woke up the next morning. All of it was on Instagram. Everyone else knew about it. I was like, fuck. Yeah. So that's when we missed our like... And the other thing I realized when Jason reached out to us and not, saying that we would have done it, we might have had, like, the biggest interview ever,
Starting point is 00:57:12 because that might have been like a, hey, let Tom tell a side of the story. Like, I've thought about this, like, on the podcast. Do you think that Tom would have come on? I think maybe. Could have been our breaking moment. Wow. I think that, you know, we have morals, and we don't fall for that shit. So we said no, Tom.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And I'm proud of that. I don't remember being consulted with that one. Yeah, no, I realized after I told Jason to go fuck himself, and I was like, oh, shit, that might have been a good opportunity. But whatever. Let's move on. Let's get to the meditation scene, which we're actually going to sit back to back, and we're going to breathe together because, as you know,
Starting point is 00:57:49 Shooter loves sound baths. He loves meditation. He loves self-healing exercises, right? Dude. Only if you sink up your breathing with me. Oh, there you are. Weird. Oh, there you are.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I thought that. I was fucking off, dude. Why is that weird? What do you mean? Why is that weird? What are you talking about? Like, when Schwartz and Lala are sitting back to back. And he goes, oh, there you are.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's a meditation crack. Yeah, because they're trying to sync up and become one in that moment. You know what I heard in that moment? What? Are you in yet? Oh. Yeah, see, there you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:58:25 This is what you get at live shows, all right? Can't do it tonight. No, I would have been, I still would have been doing what Brock was doing. Brock ended on the 17th hole, by the way. There's no chance at all. He played a full 36. He played 36. He played 36, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 By the way. I thought you were only playing the front nine. By the way, are we really mad at Brock for finishing the round? Nope. No, he's in Tahoe. Like, you're golfing. You're going to go back so you can, like... You're going to come home to meditate?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. With Sandoval? Yeah. Golf in South Lake Tahoe. Meditate with Sandoval. Like, let's be honest. The dudes in here that golf, the ladies that golf, you guys get it. I just love that the...
Starting point is 00:59:01 What was her name? Shannon. I think was the yoga. The yogi. When she walked in, she's like, oh, where were you? South Tahoe, whoa, that's far. Yeah, she jumped in. She's like, that's really far. Well, she had already gone through the entire conversation with Sandoval
Starting point is 00:59:15 about what was going on. Why? I don't know. Why do we need to know that? How about we're just doing a generalized yoga instruction or some sort of meditation? No, that was so important. We don't need to know specifically what's going on. That's Sandoval pulling the strings behind the scenes. No, it wasn't. That was him reminding her because they'd had a phone call when he set all of this stupid shit. Well, yeah, I know. You have to bring up this.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I say behind scenes, meaning like nobody else was there. yeah like you know that he set that shit up so she would ask all of those questions accordingly like wow everything was so on the head imagine you're never going to see this person again he's like like you know it wasn't even like well produced it's like clearly you were in her ear and that's the craziest part to me is like as we've seen him go through the motions especially after this season you cannot tell me that this stuff is genuine like this is manipulation at it's fine as this guy is doing everything he can, the PayPal, like you said. Initially, had I not known everything happening now, I'd be like, man, that's kind of nice.
Starting point is 01:00:11 But I do think that that's a move where he's like, I'm going to send her a ton of money, keep her on my team. Like, I think that everything happening throughout this season, after the season is all Tom trying to manipulate. I think this scene was no different. Yeah, no, that's exactly what it was. He was setting it up so that he would be in a position that he could pull some strings. Now, obviously, I think that he also kind of hyped it up so that he could sit next to Sheena. because that is an easy target. Immediately.
Starting point is 01:00:36 You're not going to sit next to Lala. Obviously, you already squash things with shorts. You already talk to James. Your next target is immediately, Sheena. So he's going to sit right next to her. The funniest part was her being a deer in the headlights. Everybody pair up. What do you do in class when your best friends,
Starting point is 01:00:52 or who you think is your best friends, pairs up with somebody else? You panic. Yeah. That was She did not know what to do. Brox, I'm going to go over here. and I'm just going to go ahead. Yeah, no, I'm going to go over here.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm not touching that shit. But I guess he had good intentions, right? You need to, I don't get it with Brock. I don't either. I don't get it. He waffles back and forth. What's he? Waffles, right?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Again. Waffles. Oh, yeah. Is that a thing? He goes, but don't ask. Yes. Yeah. They're supporting you.
Starting point is 01:01:23 See how quick he is? This is the focus group. We're in the middle of the conversation. Relax. Brock goes so up and down to the point where he, like, I don't know where he is. He yells at his wife. And then he comes out and he has the most logic out of everybody in the group. I know. It's so hard to like him because he's also an asshole.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He is. Like, that's the thing. As somebody pointed out, well, Sheena's annoying. But there is moments, like when he is with Sheena, Sheena's mom, the babysitter that, I guess, is going to then start hooking up with Katie and Schwartz. Like, I don't know what to fuck that's going to be about. But, like, the way he's talking in that moment, I'm like, wow, what a dick. like your wife is opening up about OCD and she's afraid to leave her child
Starting point is 01:02:04 and given everything that happened over the past year and she has postpart of OCD like hey dude maybe just be like I'll get it by we'll get through this together like something sweet instead of well now you got your mom's support and you everyone's like oh fuck you so and then he storms off I'm sick of that shit can you say blooming onion
Starting point is 01:02:20 Blooming onion? There you go and Garda and under hang out with the locals you know thank you I played baseball in Australia it's not a big deal it's not a big deal didn't need the tidbit, just wanted you to say blooming onion. Blumen onion. So my whole thing with Brock is like you said, we get those scenes where you're like, wow, this guy's a dick. And then he goes and
Starting point is 01:02:40 talks to Sandoval and he makes so much sense. He's logical. He's giving good advice. He's not snapping at Sandoval. He gets a little heated, but then he walks away. He's way more quick-tempered with Sheena, which is why it's like, I'm like, oh, good point, Brock. Hey, quit yelling at your wife. Good point, Brock. Seriously, dude. Stop yelling at your wife. So I'm in the same boat. I don't know. what to think about him. But I think he's having a decent season. Yeah, he's definitely having a decent season, but the focal point of this entire thing is Sheena and Zandibald. Yeah. What the hell? I'm sorry, we're not good at this. Anyway, I'll, can you put it over there? I'll grab it.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Okay, cool, thanks. Oh, for, yeah, you guys get to ask questions a little bit. We're going to do questions in a little bit, so that's what he's just making sure we're ready for those. Don't worry. But let's get into Sheena and Sandoval, sitting back to back, after the panic moment that Chena has, she has to be close to Sandoval, and what does she do? She gets up and leaves. She breaks down and starts crying. Oh, well, yeah. And then gets up and leaves. And says, I fucking still hit you.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Do you think it's because of the meditation, or do you think? Do you think the meditation made her cry? You think it was the meditation? No, it was Sandoval. And look, say what you want. She's annoying. She's attention seeking, all those things. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Like, this is my flaw, I guess, is like, my stepdad even tells me. He's like, you're too nice sometimes. I wish you were a little bit more of an asshole, despite how sarcastic I am. In what context? I mean, I've seen you drive in the city before you are. Not that nice of a person. Yeah, okay. What?
Starting point is 01:04:16 No. Huh? But my thing with she was, like, I do genuinely think that she's juggling a lot of shit right now on top of that. Like, she's away from her daughter. We already know that gives her anxiety. You pile on this shit. I think that she's founded in, like, having a moment and storming off, and Brock goes to kind of console her, not really.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And she comes back, and this is when you see that domino kind of fall. You see her sit face to face with Sandball. He has that big crocodile tear, and she's like, we're cool now. Thank you. And, like, obviously a little bit more happens after that. But in that moment, you kind of notice, like, that's what happened. Like, she is now trying to find a way back to him for better or worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 No. she is weak and she needs to figure the fuck out what side are you on I'm on logic not you Sheena relax
Starting point is 01:05:04 that was defensive that was very defensive wait what side are you on what that was that? What side are you on? Logic is that what you said Baby
Starting point is 01:05:10 logic so you're on Brock side oh that's a good reaction nobody liked that one nobody liked that one no but like do I need her to break down
Starting point is 01:05:20 and start crying and she has to leave like no like you are forced to be against this person and you obviously see that he's manipulating, look up in the eyes and be like, I need a goddamn apology.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Apologize. What did Lala do in the episode? Sheena doesn't do any of that. She just breaks down and starts crying. She's like, I know that I want to be close to him. Sandoval doesn't have to do anything to Sheena. He doesn't have to apologize. He doesn't have to excuse himself for anything.
Starting point is 01:05:45 He can just sit there and she'll come back. It's very easy. Yeah, that's a good point. And I mean, we see some of that when we get to the gondola ride and we see Tom and Brock start to talk it out a little bit. Tom is still dying to tell his side of the story. And this is the most frustrating part to watch is as we watch him navigate through the season,
Starting point is 01:06:02 anytime someone brings anything up, he immediately fires back, and he's missing the point entirely. It's like, dude, we can all agree in this room, and I'm sure they can agree on the show. It's the biggest cast of hypocrites in the world. Like, they all do the same shit to each other at one point or another. Go back, and Doty did it to Sandoval.
Starting point is 01:06:19 You go forward a little bit. You know, everyone cheats on everybody. So I get that. But you lit the world on fire with Scandival, and these people were all in the crosshairs. Yes, they all profited off of it. And that's why there could be a road back for you, you dumbass. If you just said, hey, I'm sorry, period. Let's move forward from this.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Instead, Brock's trying to challenge me and be like, dude, all you have to say is, I'm sorry. There's a lot more people involved in this than just you, Rachel, and Ariana. You scorned all of us. Like, just shut the fuck up and be accountable for two seconds. and everybody will forgive you. They're trying to forgive you, and you're actively making it harder. So when you see that conversation, and then he's still, like, they storm off the gondola together, and then we see them make up in, like, two seconds.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Well, first we get Schwartz walking up to the window and say, I'll take a brusky? Yeah, Cole Brewski? What the, who the hell says that? Also, did you catch Tom mistakenly call her Raquel? And then... And then he said, Rachel? Raquel, Rachel. Yeah, he knew that.
Starting point is 01:07:16 He knew for months. He's known for months that that's what she's going by. Yeah, that was insane. Again, Brock is actually speaking logically, which is so goddamn annoying because he's a piece of shit. Like, that is the worst part is this is the only person that's actually talking to Santaval in a normal way and saying, dude, just apologize and you have to figure it out. Everybody's involved. But also he's an asshole. It's so annoying to me, but we do get a little bit of a glimpse behind the curtain of what Sandoval is.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And he immediately just starts making excuses and excuses and excuses. He doesn't feel sorry for any of it. He doesn't. At the end of the day, he doesn't care. He is exactly what Brock said. He's 10% somewhat, I guess, accountable, and then 90% blames it on everybody else. That's exactly what it is. That was the most apt, I guess, overall idea of what description.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Description of Sandoval since Scandival. And that's exactly what it is. And it was just perfect. Yeah, and we fast forward a little bit so we get to your guys' questions and we get to the boat scene. And this is when we see Lala, confront. front Sandoval. And my first thought is motive. Like, why are you taking the time to go apologize
Starting point is 01:08:27 to him? Well, I think it's because she saw everybody else get their piece, if you will. You think that's it? I think that's what she was waiting for. I think she was waiting for everybody else to have their say. He had his moment with James. He had his moment with Brock. He had his moment with Shina. Obviously, Schwartz is immediately back on his side. So now Lala feels comfortable bringing this up. Okay. I think. No, that makes sense. It's just, again, like, listen to any of her episodes during Scandible, any of them, and listen to how she talks about them and how she talks about her own situation relates to two fairly similarly a lot of the time.
Starting point is 01:09:03 She has horrible things to say, and we're episode six. We're three or four months removed from this thing, and she's taking the time to go on the boat. Now, she claims to be on a healing journey that she wants to stop holding on to hatred and be able to forgive and move on for her kids, for herself, like all those things, which is a beautiful thing, if true. I'm not saying that it's not, because I don't want to take away from anybody. But at the same time, as I'm watching the scene, she tries to get the apology out of him. And this was my favorite scene, actually, because you see Tom do his thing, try to weasel his way out of it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He's starting to say, like, you lied for six years. I lied for six months. Then saying that Lala's shit was worse than his shit, which was crazy. And I also forgot to mention the thing on the gondola when he relates, he has the balls to say, it makes a lot of sense now that I know that Sheena has OCD because she can't get over. over this. I was like, what the fuck, dude? Like, she has postpartum OCD, and you think that's about you? I understand why she's hyper
Starting point is 01:09:56 focused on just this one thing. Like, what are we doing? Like, that's, but that's what he does. Like, he's trying to, like, navigate his way out of it, and he always says something offensive. He always loves people the wrong way. He does the same thing in this scene with Lala. He's trying to compare the situation saying, you're worse than me. You lied for six years, whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Thank God. Thank God. They're in a closed-off space where everyone has to get involved because it forces the issue, finally, and Everyone's like, dude, fucking say sorry. Sheena says, fucking say sorry. Brock, everyone on the boat's like, this is insane. This is fucking insane.
Starting point is 01:10:28 You're insane. Do you get what we're saying? Yeah, there's a lot of similarities across the board. And you can argue that he's right in some of his arguments, unfortunately, by comparing certain things because this group is so hypocritical. However, this is so recent and you just haven't said sorry yet. Everyone else has apologized along the way. You haven't.
Starting point is 01:10:45 But you know what's really funny? What? I don't think he has to say sorry anymore. He didn't even say sorry anymore. But, like, any more, I think that everybody's going to be cool with him again, and he doesn't actually ever have to apologize. We're getting there. I think we're close. I think we're, like, three episodes away from him not ever apologizing and everybody being cool with him.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Obviously, aside from Katie and Ariana, who I didn't need those scenes of them. I don't care. I thought it was a different show. I don't care. I don't care what's going on. What are we doing? I thought it was a commercial break. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:11:13 I don't need to go back and watch them interview people for their store that's not open yet. It doesn't really matter. I want to stay in Lake Tahoe. I want to see every interaction. And I do think that we are two or three episodes away from Sandoval skating through this with never taking accountability. I think you might be right. And, you know, we hear Ariana say by the end of this season, a lot of you aren't going to like me. She said that before the season aired.
Starting point is 01:11:34 And I think that we can blame production for a lot of that. At least she got ahead of it. Yeah, that's true. But, like, you're seeing it take shape and it sucks. And the last thing I want to talk about is just the last scene. And this is where we start to see possibly some of the motives behind some of the shit that we've been seeing. because Sheena and Lala are sitting in bed, and they're talking, they're recapping the day,
Starting point is 01:11:52 and Sheena's talking about, you know, I'm so happy for Ariana, everything that she's been through. She mentions how close her and Sandoval were, and she's really struggling with it doesn't want to hold on to the hate, and we saw the scene where Ariana looks like she's dismissing everything that she is saying in the FaceTime, whether that was how the conversation went, whether production got involved a little bit, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:13 But it's pushed her enough to this one side of the street where she's now saying that I'm so happy for her. Even for Dancing with the Stars, you know how much I wanted Dancing with the Stars. She's not happy for that. She's like... Did she want Dancing with the Stars for Ariana? Yeah. For herself. That's what she said.
Starting point is 01:12:31 I know. Yeah. But I think it was objective and people were going back and forth online about that one. People thought that that meant that she... Oh, yeah. No. Sheena wanted it for herself. Yeah. And is so pissed that Ariana got it because Ariana's God. But I'm really proud of her. I think that she's perfect for that. Sheena? I'm not
Starting point is 01:12:46 proud of it. What are you talking about? I'm talking a Sheena's voice. Oh. Come on. Put it together. It's not high-pitched enough. I'm not doing it. But let's wrap this scene out so we can come out to there. Come out to you guys and ask some questions. But
Starting point is 01:13:01 that's when Lala shimes in. And between these two and Lala says in her confessional Ariana needs to get her head out of her ass. And that's when I wrote in my journal, I wrote, whoa because we've seen it turning. now. I did. You can see it.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I might give this away tonight if anybody actually wants it. Can I see it? Can I see it? Can I see the whoa? Yeah. This is what people came to see. I hope there's like a curly W and give me this. Whoa. I guess that says well. Yeah. Yeah. My handwriting sucks. But my whole point with this is we have seen it. This is what's going to take shape this season. This is what Ariana told us about before the season air. This is the turning point that we see the group starting to lean more towards Sandoval and I think we're going to see
Starting point is 01:13:47 it happen more and more and more and I think by the end of the season she's going to be so alienated and I think that the plan for the show if there is another season moving forward which who knows if there will be I think Ariana is gone if there will be another season of VPR? Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:03 just settle down we have questions to get to I think that's a huge I think that the round forward is if you Ariana goes somewhere else, okay? She goes, pursues her career on Broadway, singing, whatever she wants to get into. She's got a lot of options right now
Starting point is 01:14:21 and it opens the door for a Rachel return or a Raquel return. I didn't say we would like it. I'm saying, would that push the show forward? Yes, it would. You would all watch it. Are you just saying terrible things at the end of the show? No. I don't think that there's going to be another season of Vanderpump
Starting point is 01:14:37 Rules. Zach, hold on. Don't talk about Zach. Zach's not here. Before you do that, Zach did an interview. You read something, talked to somebody that implied that this may very well be the last season. They might wrap it after this year. This isn't me speculating. This is me hearing other things and repeating it to our audience and you're being an asshole. Counterpoint. Okay. Bravo likes money. That's true. That's true. Kind of stupid. That would be kind of stupid. Well, I've talked to you enough for a long
Starting point is 01:15:05 time. So why don't we talk to you guys out here? Let's get some questions. So if you have a question, I'm going to come out there. Or Scott, are you going to walk up to me? Oh, I'll walk you I'll just raise your hand. He's going to say where you go? Yep, right here. So, tell me now you and ask you questions. My name is Angela. I have a very important question.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Hi, Angela, hi, Angela. If you had, it's for both of you, if you could meet Jason Kelsey or Lisa Vanderpom, who would you meet? Kelsey or Vanderpom? I mean, come on, Jason Kelsey. Thank you. Wait, why?
Starting point is 01:15:34 Yeah, go over. Yeah. What's the context? Yeah, that's also true. Who did you ask this to before? and what was their answer? Who did I ask it to before? Nobody. Oh, it's just us? Okay. Okay, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:47 The thank you. The thank you sounded like you were proving a point to someone. Myself. Was it you? No. You know, my husband. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Next. Who we got next? Put your hand up. Hey, how's it? Oh, wow. Oh, that's loud. How's it going, guys? First time last time. That's our friend. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:16:14 There's a lot of things in here, you know, come to support. Like, now I'm actually probably going to check out an episode or two. My question is there's a lot of animosity going up there. Some people you don't like, you know, push come to shove. You have to drop the gloves with somebody on any of those shows. Who are you picking out of everybody just to swobled with? I've actually posed this. Wait, for our team to go against or who are you picking the fight?
Starting point is 01:16:37 If you're going to box somebody from Bravo, who would it be? I don't know. It's funny. I posed this to him. I mean, J.T. It's from Southern Southern Charm. It's got, like, I might, like, we might actually have to do that as like a celebrity event. Well, that's what I posed an idea to shoot her, like, a month ago, because I was like, do you think that if I challenged Sandoval to a boxing match and kept tagging him, he would agree to do it?
Starting point is 01:17:03 I kind of want to. You can try all you want. I just don't think he'll ever do it. I really want to. Who's next? Hands up. Right here. Hold on. I got the mic. We got the mic.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Scott, right here. Over here. Hi, fellas. What's up? Hi. Okay, so, just a random question. Rumor has it that Tamara and... Bill. Exactly. Tamara and Teddy got their husbands to do the podcast just because of you guys.
Starting point is 01:17:40 No. Oh, really? That's a thing. No, because you know that they don't like you. I mean, allegedly. They don't like us. They don't like us at all. We don't like them either.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Is this you saying this or is this like a rumor going around? This was a rumor I got in my DMs. Oh, I love that. You check your DMs? I check my DMs. I love that. Let me just say, I hope that we're in their head enough that they think they need to put their husbands up to a shitty podcast.
Starting point is 01:18:03 So here's what we'll do. We'll have them on our show. No, we won't. The husbands. No. To show them that they can't handle what we do. that. Come on. I don't want to talk to the boxing match. I'll box.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Head team? Wrestling match. Yeah. All right. Hell and a cell. We're in. Okay, cool. Now we're talking. Cage match. Now we're talking. Okay. Question for you guys. What are your thoughts on Jackie's newfound friendship with Teresa?
Starting point is 01:18:30 Oh, yeah. And what do you think is behind the fallout with her friendship between with Melissa and Marge? Jackie is searching for a storyline. Yep. Because she does not like being a friend of, and she wants to try to solidify herself any way she can. And I think that Teresa
Starting point is 01:18:46 was more accepting than Melissa was. I think that's the end of it for Jackie. You want to take the second part of that question? The second part, what did she do with Melissa to fall out with her? I would imagine that somebody was talking shit and maybe they caught wind of it, and
Starting point is 01:19:02 whether that was Jackie or Melissa, we've seen both instances happening. Talking shit on Jersey? No way. They never do that. Yeah, I know, right? It's crazy to think about. But I would imagine that this is an opportunistic move, and maybe it wasn't that big of a fallout, but she saw an opportunity to grab the limelight because she's been struggling in the past few years.
Starting point is 01:19:21 She got demoted, and then last year she was not really a big part of the show. So I think that this is a chance for her to try to change teams and maybe recapture an audience because we're already talking about it. You know what I mean? So maybe that's why. That's my take. Who's next? Hi.
Starting point is 01:19:40 First of all, I disagree with that comment. I think you're both very handsome. Ooh, thank you. My question is Mary, fuck, or kill, Larsa, Sheena, and Teresa. Oh, my God. First of all, we're gentlemen, so we play Mary Boink Kill? What is it? Who were the three?
Starting point is 01:20:02 Larsa, Sheena, and Teresa. Oh, fuck. Oh, God, dude. My mother's here, my godmother's. here, my wife is here, my mother-in-law's here, my two little sisters are here, so thank you. Thank you for this. All right, let me, I'll, do you want me to just answer? You can fight this bullet, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I would marry Sheena because I would, somebody would end up dead with the other two situations. Okay. I would have to marry Sheena. What? If I married Larsa or I married Teresa. Oh, okay, that would be a blah. Yeah, something bad's going to happen. I would, I would boink Teresa and then kill Larsa.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Okay. Why not? Okay. You want a high-five to that? Do I want to add a thought? Do you want a high-five? No, I think that sounds. Oh, you want a high-five?
Starting point is 01:20:48 Yeah. Okay. There we go. Yeah, good answer. Next, I'm not answering. Who we got? How's it going, guys? What's up, dude?
Starting point is 01:20:59 Do you guys think that Sheena actually cares about dancing with the stars, or do you think that she's grasping his straws to push the show forward? I think that it doesn't matter what. Ariana got, I think that she would have that same response because she's jealous of all the attention and opportunities that she's getting. So that could have been anything. That could have been top chef. And she would have been like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I really wanted it, but I'm so happy for her. So happy for her. I don't think that the opportunity matters. I think it's just, yeah. Yeah, I think that's a really good point. I don't think it matters at all. I think that she is just jealous overall. Peanut butter and jelly. Damn that I did it wrong.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I thought you were saying that you and I are like peanut butter and jelly. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. Who's next? Right here. Oh, hey. So I know you guys recently got hate that supposedly you bashed the women and you're all for the men. But I want to know who are the top five worst house husbands. Oh, interesting. So just to reiterate, can we go top three? Hold on one sec. Hold on one sec. Just to reiterate, because we got a couple people that were confused by what she said.
Starting point is 01:22:02 We got bashed on Twitter by somebody saying that we never go after the dudes on the show, which is just a fucking lie. We tear them apart. We love going after the husbands. So that was what she was referring to. I think some people thought she was saying that we only go after the husbands. So I got you. No, I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:22:17 The worst, we'll do the top three. We'll do three. Juan, number one. Juan's number one. Louis. Louis, oh, God. Juan, Louis and. I don't want to,
Starting point is 01:22:30 Recency bias wants me to put Mo there, but I'm not going to do it. I don't think Mo. Mo doesn't deserve to be in that. No. No, he's not. P.K., that's a great answer. P.K.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I think, I think he's so funny. I think he's funny. I think he's funny. No, babe, I have to go over to England for fucking six months because I don't want to be home with the kids. I love you, bobbish. You're going to incite a riot right now. He's got so loud, you're going to incite a riot. Well, good.
Starting point is 01:23:00 What? Lenny. Everybody knows Lenny sucks. We know that. Is even a house? husband anymore, though? Huh? He's not even a house husband anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:11 It doesn't matter. Lenny? Yeah. Yeah, Lenny, fuck Lenny. He's out. Lenny's irrelevant. Sorry. Next question.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And what's your favorite color? Yellow. Nice. On the opposite end, who are your top three favorite house husbands? Ooh, I like that one a lot. If you'd asked me last year, it would have been Mo. And now that has changed.
Starting point is 01:23:29 That's a shame. My favorite house husbands, Russell is number one. Russell's the fucking man. That is a man right there. Let me tell you. I love Russell. You want to go J.B. Husband boss, too?
Starting point is 01:23:42 Oh, J.B. Husband boss. He's up there. Because he's a husband at a boss. He's a robot. How are you going to do that? Who? Anthony. He's not a husband, though.
Starting point is 01:23:50 They never got married. It's a good point. It's just, you know, semantics. Yeah. Yeah. We're big on semantics here. Unfortunately. Who's the third one?
Starting point is 01:24:01 No. No, no. Oh, no. No, no. Oh, God, though. No, no. Um, that's tough. Chris Bass is out there.
Starting point is 01:24:09 We love Chris. That's just because he's a friend of this show. Yeah, that's true too. But he's also not an asshole. Which gets us in trouble anyway. He's also not, he doesn't do anything bad. Huh? Pov it!
Starting point is 01:24:18 That's it! There we go. Thanks, Scott. Pop it. You can always count on Scott. Russell. Yeah. That's our producer. Who's next?
Starting point is 01:24:27 We'll get you. I'll get to you. Don't worry. Okay, okay. Here I am. Sorry. What's your favorite animal? Oh, um, a cat. Nice.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Okay. Yeah. I had a cute one at home. Okay, so my question is, who's your dream Ultimate Girl's Trip cast? Oh, we get this one a lot. Cancel the goddamn show. Shooter hates Ultimate Girl's Trip. I like it. No, no, no, don't apologize to him.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Okay. No, yeah, you don't have to apologize to me ever. Ultimate Girl's Trip. Let's do it together. Let's do four. All right? I would vote. My first one would be...
Starting point is 01:25:04 It's recent. Recency buys what? Oh. Do I have to take this seriously? Yeah. I would go Danielle Capraal because I want to see more of her, which is funny. Monica is on my girl's trip. Yeah, Monica has to go.
Starting point is 01:25:15 She'll be on a trader. She's serious. Definitely on mine. I just don't know if Monica has anything left in the tank. I want to see if she does. I think she burned it out. I mean, we're not going to watch. Well, that's my vote.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Monica. I would go with Karen Hugar. I'd throw a Dolores in there. Dolores, yeah. Give her some... And... No, not Dorinda. Probably Fadra.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I would still put Fadra in there. Yeah, that's our four that we would pick. She's always good across the board. That's a great call. We got... How much time we got left? We got... Five minutes.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Six minutes. So we got a few more questions. Right here. If you had to be stuck on the deserted island with any Bravo show cast, who would it be? Southern Charm. Yeah. The boys.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Got to hang out the boys. Southern Charm. Yeah. Who's next? Who's next? Scott's picking. Scott is very efficient at this. Scott's agile.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Let's give it up for Scott. Hell yeah. All right. What's your name and what's your favorite cereal? Emma. Captain Crunch. Yeah. If you could take one Bravo Lev to a Byrds game, who would it be a Y?
Starting point is 01:26:40 Go birds. Go birds. Man. I would probably take Austin and Craig. No, no, no. The only reason that I'll say that is because Austin, when they were here in January, tried to pander to the crowd with a Jalen Hurst jersey. He just doesn't get it. Yeah, we got to go back and hang out with them in the green room.
Starting point is 01:27:00 And he was like, should I wear the hurt? Jersey and shooters like, no, dude, don't pander to Philly fans. We don't like that shit. Yeah, we were also about to lose to the bucks, which we did, and that was a problem. God. West is a good answer. West is a great answer. West might already be there taking pictures. Yeah, that's a good point. West is a great call. West is a great call. We got, let's do two more questions. Make sure they're good. Hi, my name's Ali. Hi, Ali. So in the beginning of the season of Beverly Hills, I wrote in and asked you guys who you were rooting for. for and I want to know this season who you're rooting for for Banderpump.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Who am I rooting for in Banderpump? Ooh, man, that's tough because they all kind of suck. I mean, Ken? Ken? Yeah, I would love. What's the new dog's name? Can we root for the dog? No, not hippie.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Well, we're hoping for hippie. Donut. Donut. Donut and Ken are my answers. Everybody else. No way. My real answer, my vote. man
Starting point is 01:28:01 look until we get more on what the fuck is going on with James and you guys heard the rumors like I'm not rooting
Starting point is 01:28:09 for it I need to get more I that's a great call I really really enjoy Allie I think that she's bringing a lot I think that she is composed I think that she is articulate
Starting point is 01:28:18 I think that she has been a welcome addition she's gotten to the point now where she's using her astrology is like her actual occupation she's she figured it out that's great yeah you can't get mad at monetizing
Starting point is 01:28:29 All right, so Allie and Ken? Allie and Ken and Donut. And hopefully hippie stops biting people. Let's bring them on more boats. Last one. It's a good place to beat a bite. One more question. It might be a little messy, but since you guys are in with the Southern Charm crew,
Starting point is 01:28:50 do you think that's the rumor with Joe Bradley and Luann is true? We were there. We were in Luann's apartment with. Joe. We were at the apartment. No, I'm kidding. Guys, everybody relaxed. No.
Starting point is 01:29:04 We weren't. We were in New York the week that... So Joe was on Watch What Happens Live earlier that day. Yeah. And we filmed after. So I went out with Joe afterwards and Danielle, which is really awkward now. Especially because they were lit. And Danielle was like, where's your wife?
Starting point is 01:29:20 And I was like, she's home. She couldn't make it. She's like, oh, man, we're starting a group chat. And I shits you not. I am in a group chat that has not been touched in a very long time. I still think you should text the group chat. It is Joe Bradley, Danielle, my wife, and me. Dude.
Starting point is 01:29:36 I already told Dev you need to text the group chat. Just every once in all, just be like, hey, how are you guys feeling? Everybody feeling good? Should I hit it up and be like, so are we not talking about this anymore? I can't. I don't have the heart. I don't have the heart. I'm worried about Joe, to be honest with you, so I don't have the heart to start that fire.
Starting point is 01:29:53 He faced-timed us last night. He did FaceTime us last night. He was with the bottoms up in. Boston, who's another podcast. They have a good page, too, if you want to check that out. How did you just say Boston? Boston. Oh.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I just said Boston. Boston. Oh, we're going to be in Boston. No, no time for plugs. But that's about all the time we have tonight, guys. We have a good time tonight. You didn't do the right thing too much, you know? You didn't play the crowd too much.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I didn't have to. The crowd loved me tonight. Uh-huh. Yeah. She said we were handsome. She did. I'll hold that near and dear to my heart forever. Well, thank you guys so much for coming out. Make sure, again, you've got bubblies on your table.
Starting point is 01:30:37 So snag your bubblies if you haven't drank them yet. And thank you so much for coming out. I can't tell you enough. What's up? So two quick notes. If you did not get to do the meet and greet and you have a meet and greet ticket, we're going to stick around a little bit after. We've got a banner in the back for photos.
Starting point is 01:30:51 We'll be available. The guys will be available for photos for that. If you are interested in a Brabros Live tour t-shirt, I'll be in the back corner by the bar for the next 20 minutes or so. Hell yeah. And we can do that. That's why he's the best producer in the game. He's always working, maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:09 He's always working for us. But no, to bring it to a sentimental, you know, I had to get a little soft tonight. I'm not doing it at the last time. I'm not doing it at the last time. I was trying to have a moment because, as a lot of you probably know, I'm five years sober. I'm not, you don't have to clap. I know.
Starting point is 01:31:23 that wasn't the point thank you so much five years ago today I almost died that's what I said at the New York show everyone was clapping because we showed
Starting point is 01:31:31 a video of Sutton and I didn't time it right so they were still amped up like fuck yeah Sutton I was like guys I tried to bring it down like you know I really want to thank you
Starting point is 01:31:40 because I just fucking blurted out five years ago I almost died and everyone goes literally what the fuck I was like oh let me explain but no seriously
Starting point is 01:31:51 this is my favorite thing in the world and my family is here to support. Shooter's family's here to support. We never thought that two idiots that are friends for this long starting a Bravo podcast would be able to do this. So thank you all so much. It means the fucking world to us. It's
Starting point is 01:32:06 amazing. So thank you guys. You got anything else? That was good. That was good. You got anything else? I got nothing. Well, brab pros are out of here. Right guys? Right? Let's go. Thank you. By the way, again, meet and greet. We didn't see before. Hang out after. We'll take pictures We'll chit-chat all that good shit
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