Bros & Shows - Vanderpump Rules SERIES Finale... Hopefully (Vanderpump Rules Finale Full Recap

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

What's up Bro's? The VPR season has come to an end.. And what a finale. From over-production to forced interactions this was an interesting episode to say the least. Scheana sees her conversation with Sandoval the night prior as a big breakthrough. She has once again "seen his mask slip a little" and felt the need to bring that up to Ariana. We saw it slip when he called you the other woman a week ago... But she continues to bring it to Ariana's attention. Why does she need Ariana's approval so bad..? Or is she just looking for recognition that she's hurt too? Brock argues that Sandoval is a better friend than Ariana. Not sure why he feels the need to get involved every single chance he gets, but here we are. The episode ends at Kyle Chan's party where chaos ensues. After her 'Apples' performance, Ariana goes to congratulate Scheana. Scheana brings up the friendship with Sandoval... Again. While Ariana doesn't condone it, she reassures Scheana that they'll always be friends. Enter Sandoval and all hell breaks loose. All that and more! Introducing BravBros Members! Offering exclusive access, bonus episodes, monthly Q&A zoom and more! Use the link below to join! https://thebros.memberful.com/join Time Stamps Intro: (0-2:42) BravBros Members! (2:43- 6:31) VPR (6:32) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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hurt. I don't even know. Other things hurt. Shoveling. Everything hurts. Shoveling gets you in weird spots. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say. You know what the weird one is that always gets me is bowling. Oh, yeah. Bowling always, I don't know what it is. Like the forearm one you expect.

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Thumbs out. Yeah. I'm actually surprised that you're not already really good of bowling because... I'm not. You would... Yeah, that would be one that to be good at. That's one of those weird things. Like, you're very good at ping pong.

You're very good at probably like pinball or something like that. Clubhouse games. Clubhouse games. Yeah. But not bowling. Not bowling. We didn't bowl a lot. We did a lot of shitload of ping pong.

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We didn't talk about this. We haven't. Let's get into VPR. Let's get it out of the way. Out of the way. The end of an era. The end of the fucking show, hopefully. Probably.

Let's just get into all of it. All right. I think we need to start with the video that you posted last night. Okay. All right. Yeah. Because I know that's got a lot of people. on both sides. I'm very surprised that there's another side to this, but it's got a lot of people

up in arms, and a lot of people agree, which is great. The vast majority agrees. Of course, there's going to be the naysayers and the contrarians, but my favorite part is you commented calm down. I knew you hadn't even watched it. That's the funniest part. I know you just saw me in the sunroom and you're like, nope, calm down. I was sitting on my couch. I was on the phone, actually, and I started looking at like Instagram and I'm looking at whatever. that popped up and the first line was I needed to go to the sunroom I needed to go to the back room to get away from my wife not to get away from my wife

to go oh yeah yeah to remove myself from that room so that I could talk to you guys really quick I was trying to go to sleep and I didn't want to rant in her wake up exactly so that's all I watched yeah I didn't even turn the sound on I just watched the subtitles and I commented calm down yeah I didn't even know what it was all about that's the best part and I would imagine because most of us at least like when we talk about this.

Yeah, I know VPR Steel and I watch it together. But typically we watch these things the next day. Yes. We don't really watch them live. And for good reason. You get it uncensored. Apparently you get a whole new scene that Bravo didn't get when you watch it on Peacock. So I didn't watch any of it.

I thought the people would understand that. There were a lot of comments. They were like, no, you calm down. You don't get it. I'm so disappointed in you. And I'm like, I didn't even fucking watch the video. The strays that you caught from just saying calm down were awesome. I was reading there's not a lot there I think there's like three or four maybe but they made me laugh so hard but yeah I in the moment because you know dev and I decided to throw it on and finish out the season together watch it live and uh immediately after I was just like I need to say something and what it really did was highlight this cast as just a bunch of assholes which we knew but this was like the pivotal moment almost like 11 years leading up to this moment that just said hey if anybody out there if anybody in the audience

had any faith in any of these people other than Ariana and Katie, you're an idiot because these people are trash bags. So I just wanted to get it out there, like, fresh. It was on my mind. I was like, all right, I need to remove myself from an area where I'm going to wake up dev

by ranting because I didn't know how heated I was going to get. Yeah. I didn't get that heated. You didn't, but I actually watched it. Yeah, but I went in the sunroom, gave my thoughts, and I felt pretty good about it. And the responses have been really really funny. Yeah. Like on both sides of the street.

Both sides of it. Very typical for social media, Instagram, most of the people are agreeing. You go over to Twitter and there's actually people supporting Sandoval. Oh yeah, there's Sandoval. Fucking weirdos. Yeah, someone said,

Sandoval, or it wasn't a redemption arc, Sanofal is redeemed. It's like, according to who? Sandoval's redeemed and Ariana needs to put in the work. That's what that said. That's what it was. What the fuck show are you watching? I have no idea.

And also, have you been keeping up with current events because Sandoval has. has been on a smear campaign of himself over the past four months just by going on podcasts and being the same guy that he was during Scandival. So I don't know what show you're watching or how many times Sandoval sending you dickpicks so you're on his team. Like, I don't know what he's got on you, but come on now. But we all watch the same show.

Yeah. What the fuck? But without further ado, let's just jump right into hopefully the last episode of Vanderpump rules ever. And we start out with Lala and Katie. and they're talking about Dan. This immediately, when Lala starts talking about him, I'm like, oh, this episode's going to be like this the whole time.

They're talking about the potential of Sandoval meeting Dan. And she's like, yeah, and I talked to Ariana about it. And she was like, oh, well, if it does, like, Dan's been in fights and, like, he's not going to shake his hand and this and that. And Lala's like, he sounds like a square. And Katie, being the voice of reason is like he's like the sweetest guy I've ever met. I don't know what you're talking about. How is he a square because he doesn't want to meet this asshole?

It's not even like one of those situations. If you want to break it down to a real situation, yeah, it's going to be a little weird if you meet anybody's ex. Even if they ended on great terms. It's going to be weird. You might shake their hand if it ended on great terms, whatever if they're just wishing you the best. But hearing everything, seeing everything, listening to Ariana talk about him, why would you want him to shake his hand? I don't know. That's not like a, oh, yeah, no, that's not like a manly thing.

Like, you're not going to be able to shake this guy's hand. No, it's not. It's that Tom is an identified and proven scumbag. So why would I want to do this? Because he's clearly only coming over to me when the cameras are on here to say that. So, yeah, it's just very identifiable as, no, I wouldn't want to be in that situation. That's why Dan hasn't been there the entire trip. And clearly, Ariana doesn't feel any type of way about it, which says to me, they've talked about this.

You know what, Dan, we're going to San Francisco. Go hang out with your friends. Stay the fuck away from the show. These cameras are going to be rolling. Tom's going to take an advantage of. of going over and trying to talk to you so that it goes well for the show and he can try to spin it

whatever way he's going to do it. Just stay away from all of that. You can come to the last party. He's probably still going to do it there. But I don't really care. It's okay. Sandoval wanted that reaction of the band so that he can say,

I tried and Dan wouldn't even shake my hand and blah, blah, blah. Like, that's what his goal is. Probably look at Ariana and be like, what kind of man are you dating? Yeah. And he wishes them both luck. Shut up.

Just show. And we'll talk about it later. But hey, just shush. Shush, you worm. But moving on from there, we get Sheena and Brock, and they're going over the, what apparently was the most pivotal conversation of the season, according to Sheena. And that was the powwow that she had the night before with Sandoval, which wasn't drastically different than other hearts to hearts,

hearts to hearts that they've had throughout the season. It's just copy and paste, copy and paste. This whole episode was copied and pasted from the season, but just amplified. How many fucking times are we going to hear Sheena say, oh, I saw the mask slip a little bit. No. It's the fourth time we've heard it. Then she said it later. I know, dude. And she's talking.

Find a new phrase. Use a thoris or something. And fucking Brock, dude. He's like... Oh, this was the worst. Right. Between the two of them. Oh, I trust Sandvoa Moore.

Like, he's bitter because he shows up. And at least in this moment, Sheena has the wherewithal. I don't know if she's full of shit because she's trying to save face in this moment. She's like, no, Ariana's been there every step of the way. Like, she's my ride or die. I love her.

If that's the case, then why are you doing all this shit with Sandival? and not being friends with him. We'll talk about that more later. And Ariana's response to it especially, but Sheena's sentiment is I won't turn my back on Ariana. I don't know what Brock's playing at. Is he just like fully show mode now? And he's like, I'm just going to go Team Sandoval.

I don't know. This is when I texted you and I said that Brock was a cuck. Oh, that's why. Okay. This is why I texted you that because he's sitting there talking about how much he loves Sandoval because of how much he's there for Sina. Right. And every time that Sheena needs him,

he shows up, even when we don't even realize that Sheena needs him. He's there, and he doesn't ask any questions. He always shows up for my wife. Isn't that your job? That's your fucking job, you cuck? Like, that's why I call him. I'm like, that is the biggest cuck move of all time. You're talking about how much you love another man for showing up for your

wife when we've clearly seen you not show up for your wife. We've seen you yell at your wife. We've seen you yell at your wife, and we've heard that you left your entire family in Australia. We've always... So, all you're doing is portraying this cuck behavior. And you're not answering for the fucking Australia thing, which I will continue

to bring up. We have three reunion episodes. I'm going to bring it up every episode. Please do. Because people aren't asking him. I don't understand. What the fuck happens? I don't know. Where are your kids, bro? God damn it, you're right. What happened? I don't know. Me neither. Stop asking me. I don't know. I know you don't know. I got it. Yeah. But

to add to the cuck thing, Sandoval just yelled at your wife in front of you. Yes. He called her the other woman. Not a week ago, sir. So why the fuck are you defending him? Why do we see repeat behavior from this guy to your wife over and over again where he drags her, makes her look stupid, yells at her in public, and then both of you go back and praise him? Because scumbags stick together. Rock is a scumbag.

Sandival's a scumbag. They love each other because they're scumbags. Birds of a feather. Yep. Oh, boy. But they get to lunch, and Dan does join this one. And it was annoying as shit on the way there, on the trolley. Lala was like, would you have come?

if the other guy was here. It's like, dude, why? Shut up. Why are you doing this? Don't do that. Like, he's here. Okay, he's there. He's showing up.

Leave it at that. They get to lunch. First of all, public service announcement, the way that Schwartz poured his beer is the correct way to pour a beer. Because it gets the CO2 out so you don't feel all bloated and bubbly. Yep.

So everybody out there that drinks beer and you think that you're not supposed to have a heady pour, heady pours are better. And it's settled. You won't get so bloated. But anyway, moving on. Lala gives him. the third degree. Literally every question. I'm surprised she didn't ask like, where are your parents born?

What's your surname? She probably could have gotten there. It's crazy. If Schwartz didn't stop her, she would have gotten there. She said that she was going to ask him, what would what did Schwartz say immediately? What are you going to do? Ask him where he sees himself in five years? Like, that was probably her very next question. She would have gotten to that point if nobody stopped her. But her defense of it is, I will be damned if any more assholes enter this group. It's like, you're already assholes. You're all assholes, and I thought that this was the biggest hypocritical moment of all time where she's sitting there saying, I'm not going to let another person into this group who's an asshole just because they're dating someone.

You're pushing for Sandoval's redemption. The biggest asshole in the group. But you're not going to let any more assholes in the group? If you're just going to forgive them for being assholes, then what do you care if another one comes in? That's a really, really good point. Yeah. That's a good point. It's bullshit. It is bullshit.

But James brings up Sandoval. to Dan directly and look this is what a decent dude does he says I've never met him I heard what he did saw what he did don't care for it don't care for him I've never met the guy

that's it that's what a genuine person does he's not going to sit there and talk shit on him no but he's going to clearly say I know what happened and I've heard it and I've seen it and Ariana's talked about it they have no interest in meeting him normal which is fine yeah very normal leave it there the worst

thing you could do, Sheena, is to bring up the conversation that you had with Sandoval because you've done this. We've done this song and dance. You know how Ariana responds every single time. There's no need to do this again, but she brings it up anyway. I talked to Sandoval last night about weaponizing Ariana's mental health, and I saw the mask fall. Thank God, Katie. Yeah, again, his mask keeps falling off. We need to tie it on. How is it still there? I don't know. but Katie asks, how many times are we going to do this? Schwartz with this, they're all so dumb, bro. Like, it hurts my brain because you think they're not sometimes and they, like, they move

differently and you're like, oh, maybe they get it now. And they never do because Schwartz goes, he's a good person that did a trash thing. That is minimizing it so significantly that finally Ariana chimes in and thank God. She's like, don't fucking say that. Don't do that. Don't bring it up in this regard that it's just one trash thing that he did. It's not even one trash thing, first of all. It is a litany of horrible things.

And even by calling it a trash thing, a trash thing would be like if I called you a bitch behind your back to somebody else. That's a, like that's a trash thing. No, I haven't called you. Come on, dude. Look, I might make money to your face. That would be a trash thing. You know me. I'm very defensive of my people.

I will talk shit to your face. Yeah. I don't talk shit behind closed doors. But that belittles the whole scenario so much. And it also, again, we seem to have reached a place where, and how far out of this are we? Six months, maybe? No fucking idea. Let's say at most we're six months away from Scandibald.

Why are we still sitting around having these conversations as though he's vindicated or it's now getting to a point where their issues should not be talked about anymore and everyone should move on? I don't get it. It does not make sense to me. I would understand it if they were tired of talking about it because they don't feel like dealing with it anymore. Sure. But to actively advocate for him being a better person in his redemption, that's completely different.

Where has he shown that? Never. Genuinely, where has he shown that? Because any time he takes a step forward, he yells at somebody and defends himself for what he did. That's what I've seen all season. I haven't seen redemption. I've seen this bullshit redemption arc that production has pushed on us.

Yeah. And they got fucking exposed at the end, which was great. All we're seeing, honestly, and it's funny because the two major players in this, and Brock keeps inserting himself, so I'm just leaving him the fuck out of this. The two major players in this are Lala and Sheena. Yeah. Lala's doing it out of jealousy and out of production for the show. I agree 100%.

I think jealousy more. Which one? You think that's more? Jealousy more because the only reason I say jealousy more is because of the last scene when she really goes off. Calls her Beyonce. Yeah. That's jealousy because she has realized, oh my God, I would. went through something with Randall and people

didn't rally around me. I didn't get all these nice things that Ariana is getting. And the fact of the matter is, Ariana's getting these things because she's a good person and she's nice and people empathize with her. Good point. Unfortunately, Lala, people don't empathize with you because you're an asshole. She's mean to people. And you're showing

that you're an asshole. Right. So what do you want? Like people aren't going to rally around you and say, oh my God, I feel so bad for you. Like people did that because it sucked what happens. It's horrible. We can't take away from that. Yeah, it was fucking awful. Yeah. But to look at Ariana and then get jealous of the whole thing and not realize maybe it's because Ariana is more likable than me.

And that's true. So we have Lala over there doing that. That's why I think it's more jealousy than it is production, but she's spinning it in a productive way for the show, which whatever. I don't know what the fuck I think about that. Sheena, on the other hand, is just delusional. That's all it is. I don't think she's doing anything for the show because she has cried 50 fucking times, and

she cries every time she talks about it. She is delusional. She is allowing Tom to do these things because she keeps things. thinking about the good moments. He has yelled in your face, well, your husband has also yelled in your face, but Tom has yelled in your face 50 times, just this season. Why are you trying to forgive him? Why are you allowing him to come back in?

She's delusional. I agree 10,000% about the delusion, and here's my genuine theory on the matter. Yeah. I believe that she feels that she was slighted almost as bad as Ariana in this whole thing by losing her friendship with Sandvo. I think that she thinks they are comparable. I think that she thinks Ariana got burned more than she did, but I think that she thinks that everybody in the group is not understanding the gravity

in which she was fucked over by Sandoval, which is ridiculous. It's not the same thing at all. But I think that she's pissed off that she hasn't gotten the sympathy that she thinks she deserves. And that's dumb. And I think that that's what we're seeing. That's why there's this constant need to bring it up, this constant need for validation,

this constant need to poke and prod for more from people. because in her heart of heart, she's like, I got fucked over just as bad and nobody cares about me but the friendship was just as real as their relationship. That's where I genuinely think

that she stands right now. I think you're right too. And the fact that during all of this while Sheen is talking and people are disagreeing with her, naturally, Brock stepping in and saying, I'm just standing up for my wife, no, you don't stand up for your wife ever.

So I don't know what this whole thing is. I can't figure out what Brock's role in this is, but I don't really care because Brock's a nothing person on this show. He brings nothing to the show. I don't give a shit what he does. He's a terrible husband. He's clearly not a good father. So I don't care what you have to say about any of this because you've shown a different attitude towards your wife and everything else this entire time.

So for you to do this whole spin and say, I'm just supporting my wife, you're being so gung-ho about this. This is now outdoing the support of your wife, and it's a look at me moment. I agree. I'm the voice of reason here. I've sat down, I've talked to everybody, I understand, and it showed its head last week when you decided to do a one-on-one with Ariana. Who the fuck are you?

Yeah, why are you doing that? You can't do that. So, no, this has nothing to do with you. You've read his ass for fucking truth. So, no, I just like, don't give a shit. Like, I wrote down on my notes, shut the fuck up, Brock. Nobody cares what you think.

Yeah. The best point made after Brock stops talking is somebody points out, Katie's trying to defend your wife. Katie's actually trying to defend Sheena by getting her away. from Sandoval and this toxic friendship. Ariana tried too, but it was detrimental to her feelings.

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No. That's gross. Amongst other things. Like, I'm sure that was probably the cleanest thing in that one. Let's be real. Him and Schwartz are going over Dan and Schwartz says, you know, Dan's pretty cool. Like, I like them. And this is where we get, like, Sannevall's planning on figuring out a way to, like, meet him.

Like, he wants to shake his hand and he wants to apologize to Ariana and all of these different things. if that's the case my guy why have you waited until the cameras are rolling to do so and ariana brings this up later and it's a very good point you could have written a note you guys live in the same house that probably would have been the most meaningful thing is if one random day a random tuesday if you just wrote a heartfelt letter didn't tell another soul about it so it's not self gaining in any way shape of them write a heartfelt letter and slide it under a door and say, hey, this might mean nothing, but I'm sorry. But no, you didn't do that.

You waited until the cameras were. You waited until the season finale, which you know. And that's the other part of this whole thing, watching everybody move the way they moved this episode. They're all aware this is the finale. And they're all pulling out the big guns. They're all trying to force the most emotionally charged conversations that they've had all season.

The only problem is, you've tried to do this shit all season. So it's not landing. And the best part is Ariana is steadfast. and has been the whole season. So she's not giving you an inch just because it's Kyle's Chans. Kyle's Chans. Kyle's Chans bullshit, like whiskey party.

Sorry that he catches a stray for his whiskey. Maybe it's good. I don't know, Kyle Chan. But like, it just sucks because none of this is new. This is the same shit regurgitated once again. We've had to deal with this all season. And now you're trying to make it more meaningful because you know it's your last chance potentially ever

to make some noise. Yep. That's all that's happening. happening but we move on we get a fucking face time with sheena and lvp this this is too much sheena or sorry lvp is producing via face time yep trying to tell sheena what she thinks about the conversation that sheena and sandval had like well maybe it's a good step forward let me ask you this do you still love him i do right should we do that again should we take this again everybody let me ask you one more time do you still love him i do i got that one

They definitely went back and forth on this for an extended period of time to get this scene right. And, like, the overproduction of this episode for me was the nail in the coffin on the entire series. Yep. Because you watch it all happening. You're like, oh, my God, this is like watching a fucking bad daytime soap opera at this point. But you think LVP was in France during Vandaphn's Villa? I hope so. So at least she's like bringing it somewhere else because what she's given to this show this year is brutal.

She must have known that this is like the final nail in the coffin. She seems to be checked out. Yeah. Like we could see her producing early in the season face to face, and she had a couple of sit downs. The weird Jack's moment. Oh, yeah. Like that was, I think, more publicity for the Valley than it was for VPR.

And then after that one, we just didn't see her again. Does she get a producer credit on the Valley? Yeah, she does. She does? There you go. So that's exactly what that was. So she's producing the whole season, which we've seen. And now she's gotten to the point where she can't even be that her produced.

She's going to face time from south of France because she's over there doing the Villa, which is a great show. Better than Vanderpump. Way better than Vanderpump. Which is crazy to say. Let's take a moment here to tell everybody listening to this episode, go check out Vanderpump Villa. You should.

It is so much better than this horse shit. It really is. And while you're at it, check out Summer House Martha's Vineyard as well. Yeah. Because that's also a great show. We're all the good shows. Those are good shows and they're not getting attention because we're all wasting our time and lives on this show.

Yep. Think about that. Think about that. Think about that. We've watched how many, 15 episodes? 14. 14 episodes at an hour. We've wasted almost a day, oh, plus talking about it.

Yeah. So we've wasted over a day of our lives, okay? Days of our lives. A soap opera. Full circle, crack, code cracked. Let's fucking, we're done. That's it. We really have to talk about the rest of it.

Jesus Christ, but. Let's do a montage. Cue the montage. I wish we had one ready. Oh, God, that would be great. We get a conversation between Katie and Lala, and Lala says to Katie, all she knows wants is for Ariana to acknowledge her friendship with Sandoval. Why?

Why is this so important to you? And I get that she says she's afraid to lose Ariana or not be as close to her because she wants to be friends with Sandoval again. Here's the thing. We got it. We've heard this. We hear you. Ariana hasn't changed her stance since this all happened.

right the funny thing is if you go back and listen to all your bad podcasts between la la and china both of them have said on their own podcasts anybody that will be friends with him again should be cut out of her life they were supporting ariana oh how the tables have turned because now they're trying to figure out a way for ariana to accept it i don't know why you think she would why would she after what happened in any scenario in the world tell me What normal friend group would allow this or root for it? And I know it's reality TV. I know they, quote, unquote, have a job to do.

But look across the Bravo sphere. People don't talk to people on shows all the fucking time. It creates problems, sure. But it is not new to Bravo. It's something we've dealt with a lot over the past few years, actually. So I don't know why this is so important. But Katie says that's not going to happen. That will not happen.

And now Lala gets tough. She goes, yeah, she bounces back and forth between the scene with Katie, because, of course, she's not going to say this to Katie directly. No. So when she goes to her confessionals, we get a little bit more, but she's already starting to crack is what I saw in this scene, where obviously it sets up the big last scene. But she's absolutely starting to crack and show that she's jealous of Ariana, calling her the cool girl, saying that she gets to dictate everybody else's moves, saying that she doesn't even need to acknowledge a friendship. What the fuck does that matter to you? I don't know. To you, Lauren, what does that matter to you?

I don't think that that matters to you at all. I think that you're just trying to drum up as much negativity and negative support towards Ariana so that you come off as the person who finally put an end to the wrath of Ariana after all of this. That's a good deal. That's all she wants to do. And now she's starting to talk to Katie. And thankfully, Katie kept a level head. She shut it down.

She shuts it right down. She's in support of Ariana. She has been since day one. She's the only real person. Like, obviously, we, Ariana and Dan, very real, but Katie's the only one who's in the middle of everything and still being a real person. Lala's got her motives. I have no idea what she's doing anymore. She's trying to drum up interest for the show, for herself, whatever. Sheena is completely delusional. Why the fuck do

you need Ariana to acknowledge your friendship? She has. That's the thing. She's listened to you. That's acknowledgement. She's heard it and she's aware that you two are hanging out. She knows what's going on between the two of you. And she's still hanging out with you. Should that not be enough? That's what I kept asking myself. I was like, I mean, she's aware that you guys are friends again, and she's still hanging out with you. She wants more than that.

She wants Sheena, or I guess Sheena wants Ariana to come over to her, put her arm around her and say, we were in this together. Tom got both of us. And you do what you need to do on your own time. I'll do what I need to do in my own time, but I love you. She got some of that at the end, but she didn't get the acknowledgement that she was scorned by Tom. It's so ridiculous, but we get Sandival and shorts,

talking again and sand of all acknowledges to schwartz that you know he wants to apologize for weaponizing her mental health i just want to say to her that i'm actually trying to work on myself i'm actually trying to work on myself if that's the case my guy once again why have we seen all of this shit since the show stopped filming that's where you fall apart and that's what's so funny i genuinely think that some of these people believe in their heart that their life is the person on the show that what happens off the screen does not actually count towards who they are as a person. Yeah, no, I think that the energy that we're getting from Tom right now is that he's giddy with excitement because Sheena handed him something on a silver platter.

You can now go apologize to Ariana, and here's the words that you're going to use. If Tom was really sorry, he would have had his own words for an apology. Instead, he just copies and paste what Sheena tells him and says, ooh, that's really good. Maybe Ariana is going to think that I'm heartfelt in my eye. apology. And then when she yells at me, I can look at the camera and go like this. I tried, guys. I tried. I tried. I was making it about me again. I was talking about her mental health. Nobody wants to make a joke about mental health. So why would I do that? No. That's not what you're doing at all. You're just taking somebody else's words and trying to regurgitate them to Ariana so that you can create this big final showdown. Yep. The final boss. The final boss. kind of calls herself. But we get to the venue, and it's a gold bar.

And is this, Kyle Chan must do pretty well. Yeah, no, that was pretty shranky. That was his distillery, right? It's his distillery. I don't know if the party was at his distillery. No, I think it was. I think that place was a distillery. I know.

Treasure Island? Yeah, it was pretty sick. I don't know what Treasure Island is, but it sounds dope. That's honestly why I rescinded earlier when I said his shitty whiskey, because I don't know. And you'll never know. Unfortunately. I'll let you know. Or fortunately.

For fortunately, fortunately. See? The demon sneaks out every once in a while. Can't help it. But anyway, they get Sheena and Sandoval interacting because Sandoval paid for his sound tech to come out and do the show for them. And the way that Sheena's treating this show is like you would think that she's about to play like Made in America or something, not an opening of a distillery. Made in America is dead. Pick a better one.

Okay. Lollapalooza. Let's go with that one. Okay, she's making it seem like this big thing. And normally I wouldn't shit on that, but she was such a dickhead this episode that I don't really care. And she goes into a confession and says, this is what I mean. This is what he does. He shows up and does things without asking.

And at this moment, and I'm the first one to give people grace too much. You don't think that he did this on purpose so that he could show on camera what a nice guy he is? I paid for the whole thing. I set Sheena up so she could have her best chance of success. Me, me, me, I did that. It's calculated. It's manipulative. This is all he's been trying to do all season.

That's why when the quote-unquote mask slips, the only time the mask has slipped is when he yells at you. That's when the mask slips. The mask is the nice guy. And she's falling for the opposite. You know what it is? It's one of those, like, those drama tattoos you see with like the happy mask and the sad mask. He's got two masks. He is the mask, Jim Carrey.

you started off so strong that was such a good call the mask is the nice guy that's great yeah you gotta fuck yourself at the end of that no the point is like but no that that is his mask is being the nice guy

and she can't recognize that or maybe she does recognize that and doesn't want to believe it maybe she is so jealous of Ariana or so like over this whole thing that she just wants to be friends with Tom and doesn't really give a shit

about her friendship with Ariana like I don't really know what her end game is here but I think she wants it both ways I think she wants to be friends with Ariana I think that she's petrified of Ariana I do too But I don't know why If you're that scared

Why you keep talking to her about her ex And wanting to be friends with him It makes no sense I can tell that you're visibly upset and scared Every time that you come near her Baby stop talking about it But she doesn't And like

This is when she goes to her confessional And takes a sip of her drinking goes But that's just me making about me again And that in my head That's when I was finally like Okay This is about you. Yeah, this is about you.

And you also think that you're on the same level as Ariana as far as how much you guys got fucked over. Like, you think that Sandoval played a much bigger role in your life than he actually did. Like, that's what I'm getting from this. Because to compare your friendship being lost to Ariana losing everything from this, she gained everything back. But she went through hell to do it. To compare those two things is asinine and ridiculous. I think what's going to happen to is. she finally got at least some sort of love from Ariana.

If this had run more episodes, and I think this is what's going to happen in the reunion, we would be in a position where Sheena would be fully on board with Lala in trying to convince Ariana to give Tom a shot at being a friend. Oh, yeah. Like, that's all she, like, she finally got that. She's got that off of her chest. I think that she wants to go back to it.

Because if she's putting herself in the same playing field as Ariana and saying, we both got fucked over by Tom, it'll eventually turn to a point where, well, I've forgiven him, why haven't you? And that's three episodes away. So I think that's what we're going to get in the reunion because that's a couple of months

have passed. She's had some time to think on it. I think that's what we're going to see. And look, if I'm Ariana, obviously I'm running the fuck away from this show. Yeah, literally she did. It was fucking hysterical. But we got a heartfelt moment between Allie and James

where there is hope for the future. You know, James wants kids. You want to get married, all that. Allie was a little hesitant when they had this conversation before, but she does say, you could argue she pulled a page, but she says, when I do get married, I want it to be to you. But I think it's enough for James where he just wants to know that they're headed somewhere because he has this like storybook, picture perfect, married at 26, kids by 30 and blah, blah, blah.

So I think that at the very least, it was nice to see them happy? Happy. Yeah, it was nice to see them happy. a nice moment, but we get Schwartz and Joe, and Joe loves Schwartz, duh. Oh, Joseph. Joseph. Joseph wants Schwartz in her life forever, forever. And it sucks that I can't be with him. I don't think that's good for you.

No, it's definitely not good for you. It's definitely not good for your mental health to, like, follow a dude around or follow anybody around and have, like, love or be in love with them. I mean, she's clearly very fucked up, so, like, I don't, you know, rhyme or reason. I don't know. I don't think that's healthy. And I think it's fucked up of Schwartz to string her along, knowing that she wants to, like, marry him.

Yeah. I don't know why the fuck he thought it would be a good idea to be like, why don't you come join the group? Come on over here. Talk to these guys. It'll be fine. They're over it, Joe. Like, it'll be fine.

I know you didn't even say anything to them at the last party, and they ruined you. But now it'll be okay. It'll be, nothing changed. Enough time has passed, you know, where I put the foot down and said that we're not dating so we're just friends it'll be okay now because we're just friends like no do you think that katy is going to forget about all the other shit that happened no no of course not no and it goes horribly like it does not go well katy puts her foot down again and calls out all of the weird ways

that joe moved it's like yeah you text to me that was nice i guess even though you threw in the beaver thing which was bizarre yep but immediately after that you started living them she's like i didn't live with them it's like that we're playing semantics honestly you texted her so sorry and then you fucked her man. Yep. That's what happened. That's exactly what happened. Make it black and white. That's not cool. No. Nobody would be cool at all. And Schwartz immediately undoes, undoes. Undoes it. Undoes it. Undoes all of the good faith that he got from Katie in the last couple of weeks. Yes. All of those nice moments that we saw were, all right, maybe you guys can coexist and be friends and still be funny and still have fun moments on our screen all out the window because you decided to bring over Joe.

Yeah. For what? Yeah. No idea. Ignorance? No, producers. I don't know if Schwartz. I think Schwartz is just a fucking moron. He is. Don't get me wrong.

But after seeing how this episode ended, I firmly believe that they had a fucking itinerary for this shit. Yeah. That's a possibility too. And it's really just like, if it is, then it's really fucked up that Schwartz did that. It would just bring her over. Again, I mean, we already talked about the fact that he's stringing her along.

If you have any feelings towards this girl. Don't put her in that situation. You never put her in that situation. Friend or lover or whatever the fuck. you want to call her. You never put her in that situation. You let her roam around the outskirts. You check in with her. She's got other friends there. Yeah. She'll be friends with Tom and, you know, who the fuck knows what's going to happen there? But you can wander around. It was just nuts. And like, the best thing Katie said was like, as a woman, you could have thought

of me. Yep. Joe's response, I wasn't thinking about you. No shit. That's why you did what you did. And she's well within a right to be upset with you and not be nice to you and not get along with you. even then when she called her weird like that's weird you're weird I was like oh that's mean but at the same time no like what she did is fucked and she's trying to hide behind this I'm a loving person I'm nice I'm sweet and quirky and whatever and we saw

the Instagram live she's not she's mean she's mean and uses this and this is her mask everyone's wearing masks Vanderpump masks that's what the next season is going to be called somebody stop me I wish we had that on the songboard but we get

sand of all Lala Sheena and Brock. This was brutal, dude. Sanneville goes over to Brock and they have like a heart-to-heart dude moment. Thanks for sticking up for me, man. No problem. Of course I did. Oh, I love you. Kiss me.

Like, that was such a shitty, fake fucking moment. I hated that moment. And he's like, we're going to need you to step up now. Now's your time to shine. Prove me right, big guy. like this when did this bromance flourish no fucking idea i hate it so much it has not been this tight until until what until what the fucking season finale we watched you guys try to have a conversation when you went to tahoe and we're going up the thing shit got heated you pulled back very quickly which i thought was weird but up until then what happened from like a week ago

when he yelled at your wife and called to the other woman and you got in his face where does all of that energy go. I do not understand. Do they have meetings? They have to be having meetings. They must be having meetings. And like, this is what we're going to do. And we're going to set up Ariana. This is how we're going to get back because she's checked out on the show and we're all jealous of the fact that at the end of the day, you're watching everybody else try to save their job and you're watching Ariana who does not need the show anymore. That's what you're seeing. Again, this is a highlight moment for Sheena thinking

that they're on the same playing field, her and Ariana. I understand how much he fucked up, but I wish she'd see I'm hurting too, and I'm losing myself. What? I don't know. There's so many moments in the show that I just

wrote down question marks, because it's like if I'm Brock and I'm hearing how she's talking about Sandoval, I'm concerned. Cuck. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly. But like, genuinely, I'd be like, what the fuck? Like, what have you guys done together?

Like, why are you so invested in this? And also, by the way, you're cool with him now. Like, all of this is for show. You're trying to act that you're still upset about it. Ha, whatever. Boo-hoo. You're fine. And if Ariana had said 10 weeks ago, yeah, whatever, do you?

I don't care. Just keep it out of my face. You wouldn't be all sentimental anymore. So you're just trying to, again, pull out the heartstrings and compare yourself that you got cited just as bad. But moving on, we get the introduction. I don't know why. I have no idea.

I don't know why Sandoval needs to be over there. He awkwardly finagels his way in. And once again, it's production. Production is, and they have their little setup. You see it at the end where they're like in the corner of the room. And I'm sure that what's, whoever that douchebag is, I think someone who's Jermaine, maybe, there was a guy at the end with glasses that said, Ariana don't do this. And I think he's the conductor.

And I think that idiot was standing back there literally with like one of those conductor wands. Like, right, now you go. Now you go. and bring it all together and boom yes yeah yeah mean yeah is it germane i think it is germane yeah in the head that guy sucks ass yeah this is what you came up with this year germane you're bad at your job you're very bad at your job i also thought ariana waited until tom walked away before she got up and walked over and she's like i'm not fucking doing this absolutely absolutely not going to do this but that was that was during the appell when he tried to apologize

to her later this is later yeah that's when we get to see them i'm just saying in this moment i i I genuinely believe that they're like, all right, Tom, go apologize. Or go say hi to Dan. Yeah, he's got an ear piece in. Yeah, absolutely. Go say hi to Dan. That was like the most energy of the, you know, the video with the guy I was on the plane. He's like, I want to shake there.

I want to shake your hand. Oh, when he gets kicked off. Yeah. That was Tom. That's all he's doing. He went from across the party to go over as if you didn't just try to chase Ariana down. No, no, this was different. This is different.

Okay, this is the other time. All right. Now it's getting convoluted. I know. All right. He introduces himself before that. The introduction is Tom coming across the party to go introduce himself to Dan. Yep.

When Schwartz even got up and said, I don't think you should do this. If Schwartz is telling you know, don't fucking do it. Don't fucking do it. Don't go in there and do that. And like, he would have gone in for a handshake. He gave him a little pat on the shoulder. Fuck off. It was brutal. And I'm so glad Dan didn't shake his hand.

He goes in the cold shoulder. He goes, yeah, it's up. And that's, that is the correct introduction or meeting. for an ex and a current boyfriend. It's a head nod. It's an acknowledgement. Like, hey, we get it. We're not going to get along.

We don't have to. You're over there. I'm over here. Let's not do this. Dan sticks to that. Tom tries to play like, oh, I'm trying my best here. Taps him on the shoulder.

I wish that, because he's like a personal trainer, and I've seen him hit the bag. Like he works, he boxes and stuff a lot. I don't know if he does any like MMA, but it would have been sick. If he put his hand on him,

he fucking, like, grabbed him and did like an MMA move and just like, bah. like fuck out of the pressure point yeah exactly make him shit himself yeah make him poop grab by the thumb make him poop yeah exactly that's what I wanted to happen but I'm actually

no I'm glad that Dan handle he handled himself with glass all the way yes all the way we haven't seen him good dude he seems like as much as you idiots out there that are commenting about Sandoval want Dan to be a bad dude he's a good dude he doesn't even want to be on TV clearly he has no interest what we see between him and Ariana we've never seen between Ariana and Tom no and everyone is just genuine

and nice, and they like each other. Let them live. That's my biggest point, because look, I think that everybody, and understandably so, were concerned when she jumped into a relationship 10 days after everything went down. It does go down one day every time that we talk about it, though. We're down to like three. No, they said six at some point. Yeah.

I think it's between, let's say two weeks. It's probably, yeah, two weeks, all right. Here's the thing. They've reached a point now. They got through an entire season. around her ex. They're still together. They're coming up on a year.

They're past a year now. Can we move on from the eight-day thing? Yeah. Like, they're together. Is it a little weird how it started? Sure. Okay, fine. They're together.

They seem happy. Ariana's killing it. So, like, I don't, let it go. Leave it at that. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Nice, dude.

I nailed that one. Let's get the auto tune going. You got that on the soundboard? There's an app. All right. Yeah. Where are we? We'll add that.

to the brav bro's members brav bro karaoke oh god wait a minute that's not a bad idea wait a minute after sandoval walks away alley decides to chime and she's like it had to happen had to happen it really didn't this moment didn't need to happen for the show i guess like we knew it was going to happen at some point i actually took it as alie saying it had to happen because tom was going to do it no matter what not because like that had to like happen i think she's like Tom's going to do that. It's the show. Like, I think that just had to happen. Oh, that's not how I took it.

Oh, yeah. I didn't take it as like an alley is now all of a sudden conniving and like in the show. I don't think she's, no, I didn't get that from it. I just thought that she was like, oh, had to happen. Like, you knew it was going to happen. Had to happen. But this is my favorite confessional of the season from Ariana because she's like, I am not a cog in this Sandoval redemption arc. She calls out production.

She calls out the whole fucking season. Which is very difficult to do in filming. Yes. You do not know how they're editing it. You don't know what's going on. You can feel it. It's palpable. You can tell how everybody else is reacting.

The way that Lala is moving, the way that Chene has been moving, the way that Brock's fucking moving, everybody is pushing for this redemption arc. For her to call it out and we were watching this with all the music and the editing, we knew it the entire time. For her to pick that up right then and there is smart. Yeah, and she's very right. I'm so glad that she called it out. She's like, I'm not a party to this bullshit that production's trying to shove down everybody's throat.

it also calls back when she either tweeted or posted that I think she quoted the dark night where she's like either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain and that's what they're trying to do but that's what's so funny is the other cast members are so incapable of being good people that it failed miserably especially in this episode all this that was highlight how much they're trying to manipulate the show which is funny because they showed that and that and not like furthers my belief that this was was the last episode ever. They just fucking went, fuck it, and showed us everything.

Yep. But I don't know. But we move forward. We get Sheena's performance. What did you think of apples? First of all, was she singing? Or was that a voice over? I think she was singing.

You think she was singing? Yeah. All right. Well, you're more critical than me. Yeah, I think she was singing then. All right. Did you see the extended version that she's now part of the band? She is now a member of the 217.

I was only on Peacock. All right. Fucking hated that. I mean, look, I don't want to put down a band. They work really hard to go do what they're going to do, and they saw all Sheena, and they're like, I can be on TV. You're not putting them down? They got plenty of publicity from this. They're doing fine.

I'm saying I don't want to because I really do want to put them down. Oh. And call them a piece of shit band that doesn't really do anything. But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. This is a big deal for them. It was embarrassing. Sheena going over, I'm part of the band, right guys?

I'm part of the band. I had a lot. No, Sheena, your music career sucks. Fuck off. You're hot today. Yeah, I don't give a shit. You're a hot little potato. Everybody can catch it.

What impressed is? You're spicy. Spicy. Yeah, I love that word. Feeling spicy. I need to get better at using it. I need to use it more. Yeah.

I'm a big fan of that word. Don't overuse it. Don't get too spicy. Don't get, nope. See, that's not spicy. You're just saying like if you do too much. It's a medium? Medium heat?

Mild, yeah. Not nuclear. Not nuclear. Now we're just naming sauces. I'm hungry. But here's the biggest thing to take away from that performance. my mind, look at Ariana, who's apparently not supportive of Sheena anymore. She's right by the stage, dancing the whole time, smiling, being a supportive friend. What do we get? We get a

confessional of Sheena saying Tom stepped up when he didn't have to. Fuck me, right? Like how? Because he called a sound tech. By the way, he pays all of his band members anyway to practice with him. So it's nothing new for him to pay this guy but i he's got to keep going i can't keep getting stuck on it but when the show ends this is the biggest support of ariana being a good friend because she immediately goes over to sheena even after they've had the same conversation again doesn't hesitate gives her a big genuine hug says she's so happy for she was so good so great just a great moment Sheena's response Tom Fu's sound guy out

because he's a genuine guy and he's a good friend I'm really hoping that he's changing what the fuck why now you're finally finally in a good place like she's supportive clearly

and throughout this conversation Ariana says to her look don't talk to me about his path of growth he's my ex-boyfriend I don't need an apology I do not have to interact with him you can't make me interact with him stop talking to me about him i want him out of my life and i am

not contacting him period however she gives sheena what sheena's wanted this entire fucking season yep i will not leave you you are family i love you you're not going to lose me so don't stress out about that we're good girl that should be enough it's not not as we see sheena's reaction later but that should be enough that's all you've wanted so what the fuck and in that moment fucking production steps up here comes sandibald running over slides in at this moment but right before that to call out production again actually we get a montage of ariana saying because she says like i never said that i wouldn't love you i'd cut you out and we get a montage of her alluding to that a few times.

Come on. Yeah. Like, why the villain. We know what they're doing. Why the villain arc? And this is absolutely Tom running over, whether production or Tom or whoever the fuck. I think Tom is basically production at this point. Him running over is, let me do this while she's with Sheena, because I'll have some backup.

Her and Sheena are good. I just watched a little hug over there. This is my opportunity. If I go over there, Sheena's going to be between two fucking hard places, not know what to do she's probably going to back me up we've talked about this she's going to back me up so let me do this in front of sheena because if ariana flips out i'll have sheena on my side yep and smart smart move ariana runs right back to her safe space good let me get over by dan let me get over by katie because this is not going to happen she slides so quick oh dude she was out out

she was probably looking if i'm ariana i'm looking around because you know tom you know production you're already calling it out you know exactly what's going to happen as soon as you see tom be lining out gone nope she books it over to production literally over to the producers and it's like taken off her mic that was the last straw that's the funniest part and this is what i don't think that production realizes and i think that production gets pissed off when one of their cast members gets bigger than the show yeah i think that that's what this is and i think that because she didn't play ball all season they tried to fuck her over with you have a storyline that you need to abide by No, I fucking don't.

I don't have to. I got through this whole season. This is very clearly the season finale. I'm out. Yeah, I'm on Chicago. You can't threaten me. You can't. I'm bigger than you now.

And I think they hate that, that she didn't fall in line, so they're trying to paint her as the villain. And that's why I wrote multiple times throughout this thing, and then I said it last night on that video I made. I wrote fuck production at least six times. Yeah. Because you keep seeing the shit pop up.

And it's not even so much that they're trying to drum up bullshit, which pissed me off. It's more so that they were so. so avant-garde about it and it's right in your face it's like you guys aren't even trying to hide it anymore you're taking out all suspension of belief multiple times how the fuck am i going to go back and watch the show knowing that your hand is in every single moment why why why because germane sucks yep he's bad at his job i'm talking directly to i hope you hear this somehow i really god i hope his name's germane me too me too he looks like a little weasel and like when ariana

and runs over, they're like, don't do this, Ariana, don't do this. Why? This is our grand finale. Yeah, we don't give a... You guys are finally going to come to head to head, and Tom's going to get his moment, and no matter what happens, it's going to be great. And Billy Lee gets into the mix. I don't know why the fuck did she go from.

I don't know. I didn't know she was there. I thought she was off the show finally, but now she comes back over, and then Tom starts going to tire. She doesn't even like any of these motherfuckers. She talks shit about all of you guys all the time. Like, this is such like a schoolyard technique of now I'm just going to flame her and just say everything that I can. She doesn't even like any of you guys.

Why would she? Especially after this episode. Especially this season. Especially after this specific night. Yeah. What have you, what have any of you done to support her? She tried finally to give Sheena what she wanted. And sheena still flips.

Yep. Do you understand cast? Do you understand that if you had stopped pushing like Sandoval onto her? tour, if you'd stop trying to force this fucking narrative, it probably would have been a pretty peaceful season. It would have been a peaceful season. It would have been fine. It would have been better to watch than this.

Yeah, this is just tough to watch. And it just culminated with the worst episode that I've seen. I thought it was a good finale just because I was like flabbergasted. Yeah. I was like, this is crazy. Like, this is absolutely crazy. It just takes all of the realness out of the reality TV. It was entirely gone.

And everybody can see that. Even the people that don't watch it the way that we watch it. where we're looking for production, we're looking for those edges as to somebody pushing a storyline or a narrative and all the people that are operating under that assumption, this is so blatant and so clear that production was pushing this and they had some plan in mind. And Ariana didn't want to be part of it.

She just bounces. Why the fuck Witchies? They're going to Applebee's. Two for 20. Two for 20. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. What do they have?

You can get a dollarita at Applebee's too. Oh, yeah. Talk about a hangover. No chilies, but it's Applebee. I do think I like chilies better if we're splitting hairs here. I spent a lot of times at those kinds of restaurants and baseball life. But Applebee's, I would get the two for 20 by myself and then I would drink like $2 beers all night.

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But that's where you get the cut to Ariana or she says, I'm the final boss in his redemption arc. And this is all for TV. Everything he's doing is performative. And we've seen that. We've noticed that. We called that out episode one or two. This is clearly he's trying to paint this picture

of this redeemed man, but he's not. And we finally get the breaking point of Lala. And we knew that she had different sentiments. We knew she was hiding behind her mask this season of that she actually likes Ariana and she's not jealous at all and she's supportive because you've heard it slip a couple of times fully gone now.

Yep. She's like, she thinks that now she's Beyonce and she won't film with him, but they're living under the same roof. He didn't kill anyone. And then eight days later, you're with Dan. you've been saying this shit behind closed doors for six months. And I love that she went, when she's on her way out, she goes, I finally cracked.

I'm sorry, I finally cracked. No, you didn't. Save it. Someone yelled that you finally cracked. You've been doing this the whole time. Yeah. And this is where you get the coveted, I've never seen someone get cheated on, and suddenly they become God.

And they even put the fucking, like, boom, behind it. It didn't have, it was very lackluster because we've seen that moment, umpteen times. Yep. but you get this this moment was probably for the very few that were trying to be team Lala or Sheena or Sandoval this is their big evidence point is her giving the spiel of I love filming this show because it's real no it's not we just watched very clearly we just saw that it's not real at all this looked like an actual scripted show tonight but I love filming the show because it's real and it's raw and it's healing and for her to just walk out and not do her job as such a slap in the face.

Okay. So the other thing that people were saying, because they didn't realize that it was a hypothetical scenario in which I was saying, let's bring Randall back and see how she feels about it. Do I understand that Randall is being accused of much worse things than Sandival? Yes, I'm aware of that. Do I really want Randall back on my TV?

No. I really don't. I don't need to see him ever again, especially now he's using a pseudonym. Sudonym? Is that right? Yeah. He's using a pseudonym to work on movies again. So, no, I'm cool seeing him.

I was trying to make a point. And my point is, she starts saying that, like, she shares everything, and been open and honest and all this. You refused to talk about Randall. You refused to talk about so many different aspects of your life. You tried to shove the dawn down our throat. Like, that was a real sticking point. That was insane.

Your biggest moment this season was a water-tasting party. The only credit I can give you is your journey as a mother, which no one's going to shit on that, do you? But as far as sharing your life in the past, what got you to this point? Bullshit, dude, you haven't shared a goddamn thing. Ariana, is she the most open book in the world? No.

Could you go and say that maybe her and Sandoval's relationship was rockier than we thought it was? Okay. But again, to say that she didn't do as much as you is not true. You haven't done shit. We've talked about this last year before this was a problem. She's not bringing anything to the show.

anything. And all I heard this entire time where she decided to go off at the end and talk about reality TV and what she's done and how much it's changed her life is, I'm upset that Ariana is bigger than the show. I'm upset that she's getting way more love from other people than I ever got. And now I'm pissed about that. So I'm going to take it out on Ariana and I'm going to say, good, you know what? The show doesn't need you anymore. No, Ariana doesn't need the show anymore. She has moved on and sorry for Lauren, she has to stay behind on a show that's probably going to get canceled. I think it is, but based on that montage. The montage tells me series finale. Yes. And thank God. And I swear to fucking God, if they did that goddamn montage and they don't cancel

the series, I'm going to be furious. Unless they recast the entire thing and like they move it out to Vegas. Vanderpump, fucking Utah. I don't care. Vanderpump, Utah. Oh, yeah. I'm just throwing shit out there. It's like Tahoe in Utah? It's in Nevada,

I think. Yeah, it's that. I was just throwing out different states. I didn't care. Look, you haven't give Cleveland any credit in a long time. Vanderpump Cleveland. Vanderpump Cleveland. That sounds cool.

That would be interesting. That's Gritty. Hey, Gritty's a Philly guy. Not him. Gritty's a Philly guy. It's a word first and then a guy. A monster? Oh, I guess if you're going to compare it to like because Muppets are monsters.

So, yeah, I got. He's a monster. He's a Muppet-esque. If you saw somebody that looked like Gritty under your bed, that's a monster. That's a monster. He's a cool monster. Cool-ish. You don't...

Wait a minute. Not a big gritty guy. No. Why? I don't know. You're just the fucking... I just feel like he's like derivative. You're contrary.

I swear to God. Every mascot's derivative of the Philly Fanatic. Exactly. Oh, so you're solo Philly Fanatic guy? That's you? That's the only good mascot in any game. I disagree. I think Gritty's fantastic.

I think you're just a homer. I am. But also at the same time, Gritty's the show. shit he's fine he's fun he's funny sure you're gross he looks like a three-year-old jerome that's what's funny yeah yeah that's not a response you're just making sounds you're just making sounds now but i'm glad katy points out to finish this whole thing off that like you know she stuck to her boundaries she said she's going to stick to her boundaries she's stuck

to her boundaries i don't know why this is so hard people to understand just because you're on a show and that's the whole thing if production didn't fumble the bag so bad they could have had a different storyline for this season. But instead, you tried to pigeonhole in corner the one person that truly doesn't need it. That was dumb because she can walk out of there and go on to bigger and better things. She literally does that. She puts her mic down. Go fuck yourself, everybody.

I'm going to Applebee's with Dan. And you know where I would rather be than the Golden Distillery? Sorry, Kyle Chan, motherfucking Applebee's. So we're going with them. Two for 20. Yeah, baby. I would be remiss to not mention. the fucking dumbest line ever from Sandoval.

Like, if you ever had a chance for idiots out there to watch this show and think that this was your moment, you had it. I don't know who would have, like, fallen for that. There are people out there, according to our comments on Twitter that fell for it. You fucking blew it again, because then you go, I love it. It's good for me. No. You dickhead.

This is you. I'm at least happy the person. production kept that in. They didn't have to keep that in based off of everything else that they're doing, but they wanted to throw that little nugget in there to be like, whoa, a little twist at the end. Everybody's going after Ariana, but guess what? Sandoval still a scumbag.

What do you guys think? Great masterpiece, right? We wrote it. We did this. We did it. Me and Jermaine. I really hope his name's Jermaine. But me and Jermaine killed it.

Jermaine, you're terrible. You ruined the show. You fucking ruined it. This was my day one. This was my OG love, my heart of heart. It's my show, and it is done. Dead. Over.

Holy fuck, we got a lot of questions. Yeah, I figured. Buckle up. Let's answer. Let's give the baby bird some responses here because we all need to decompress. We still have to do the Valley. We didn't even, yeah, whatever. It's okay.

It's okay. We'll get through this together. This is cathartic for all of us, guys. underscore Instagrammer said that's their name Instagrammer but instead of yeah yeah that's their name yeah that seems like a hard one to get I don't know I don't know uh did VPR producers include that final audio clip after seeing the online uproar slash backlash no I don't think they didn't see it until after the up there would be actually really interesting if there's like a live production team like do we need to put it in we did it I would love that I don't think that happened no I think that happened no I think think that they just clumsily edited this one together. Diana Jerry said, Ariana said, I don't watch what happens live.

She hasn't watched the season even before the reunion. What are your thoughts? Why would she? Why the fuck would she? She clearly felt this was happening the whole season. I don't think that I would want to sit there and watch myself get painted as a villain when she's the one that got fucked over. Like,

that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Yeah. So, yeah. The cog line That holds way more weight Than I think people are giving to it Like she recognized what was happening The whole season

That doesn't happen a lot Usually people catch on later So the fact that she was like Cognizant of everything going on Why the fuck would she watch it? I wouldn't watch it Um Versashi says

Hey besties What's up? Us. Do you think Lala thought That viewers were going to side With her negativity? I think that she's in her own world and like

yes I do I think part of her thinks that she's on this like righteous quest to I don't know like it's very confusing what she wants like what her end game is and it's just all it all it screams is jealous that's all it screams to me but yeah I do think that she thought

she was going to garner more support than she's gotten yeah for sure I also think production was like probably pushing this narrative to all of them like this is working guys and they're all like, we're back, baby. No, you're not. You fucking killed it.

That's a good way to lead into this one. From Lichella, do you think production slash Bravo will backtrack on the redemption arc at the reunion? So do you see Andy kind of talking about it a little bit more? I feel like it's going to be like a full fourth wall break. I feel like Ariana is going to call it out. I think it's going to be probably one of the more, it might, it has the potential to be, it's not going to be a good three-parter, and unfortunately it is. will not be good for three parts.

It has the potential to be one of the better reunions if we fully break it down from a fourth wall break, because we all love the fourth wall break. If they go like all in on that, it has the potential to be pretty solid. Yeah. Not for three episodes. Not for three episodes now. Jasanae asks, who's the biggest loser of the season? And it is a much more difficult question to answer.

I'm going to say Lala, for sure, which is really funny giving where Tom Sandoval is. Yeah. I mean, well, I feel like Sandoval is in a league of his own. You don't have to include him in this. It's hard between Lala, Brock, Sheena. I say Brock, because I don't know why you're defending the dude that yells in your wife's face. If you yelled in my wife's face, I would bitch slap you until I could fuck off. Daria.

Dot Ping says, is Allie truly in love with James? So I look at this kind of like an arranged marriage setup where they got together because she wanted to be on the show. I don't think she loved him. I think over time, she has grown to love him. Okay. Yeah, I can agree with that. I think that we kind of said that before, but after that scene in this last episode,

I'm starting to feel it. It seemed pretty genuine. Yeah, I'm starting to feel it. Especially amongst all the bullshit we were being fed, so. Ha, ha, ha, haleo said, do you believe anything on Bravo after seeing how much they tried to gaslight us? No, that's what I'm saying. I don't think they realized.

how much damage they could have done by forcing this one out. Like, if you had done a better job at your fucking job, God, I really hope his name's Jermaine. I know. Someone help. Someone help with Jermaine or not or whoever. Just correct us in the comments so that next time we can blast. I don't care what show

we're talking about. I'll fucking drag this guy. Yeah. That's just, it's clumsy. It's shoddy work, sir. And one last one here from Rachel Mickelis. Has Steele calm down yet? I haven't watched yet, but pumped to watch it based on the posts. I think we were both pretty

ramped up for this. It was just like our tone, because we're usually deep talkers. I feel like we're both a little high pitch this episode because we're just doing this the whole time. Deep talkers, close talkers. No, I'm not a close talker. I don't care for close talkers. Deep talker sounds like kind of another level of close talking.

Deep talker talks to your soul. I'm saying our voices tend to be deeper. I know. This one, we had a higher octave. I'm excited about that. What do you mean? I think the majority of this episode was elevated voices and, like, what's going on? So to answer your question, I was actually fairly calm after this. I was heated when I made that video a little bit, but, like, there's no reason to get up in arms about this shit simply because it was force-fed produced bullshit. Like, what a slap in the face to the legacy that was Vanderpump rules.

like they should have they fucking should have whacked it after last year and gone out on that note it would have went down as one of the best reality shows ever instead it's going to go down as one of the biggest flops

ever ever I really hope they don't try to bring it back there's no reason to they don't deserve to after that showing nope restructure you fire the entire production team and get a whole new cast that could work

and publicly fired Jermaine or whoever Jermaine actually is we're not protecting him because we don't know his name i just don't do the uh guillotine in france the metaphorical they stopped doing that metaphorically you know when they stopped doing that not that long ago 1983 that's all i got you got anything uh remember to sign up for the braf bros members check at the bottom of the show description of this episode there's a link there you can also go to our instagram the link is in the bio once again is five dollars a month or fifty dollars for the entire year very excited to get this off the ground

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