Bros & Shows - Wait... Is that SHANE FU*$ING DAVIS?!? (VPR Reboot Premiere Full Recap)

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Whats up Bros? VPR IS BACK! And we gotta say, we enjoyed episode 1! We are introduced to the new cast and Venus is a standout already. Marcus appears to be the biggest f boy in the group and his toxic relationship with Kimberly promises to be entertaining. Its nice to have poor people on the show again. VPR went back to its roots and dammit we are excited for whats to come! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I got to say, there's just something comforting about being back in Sir. There's something comforting about being back and sir with poor people that can't afford to be annoying. They're just about... Bros and shows. I got to have me my Bros and shows. Bros and shows. Brose and shows.

I got to have me my Bros. Shows and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. And shows, I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as. always by Sertr-Megertrter. Sertr. Isn't Sertr like

a Greek god of something? Sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the one who destroys Asgard. Wow, that's a great start. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, We are back. That's not Greek. That's Nordic. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Anyway, we are back with VPR.

And it's kind of fun. I don't know. could be a good time. I had the same reaction. I was like, okay, I like it. I'm not, I'm not saying it's going to be a banger. I'm not saying it's going to be horrible. I'm saying that for 42 minutes and 30 something seconds, I was having a good time.

I was having a good time. And I think my takeaway is they were trying, all of them were trying so hard. And they know that they're on camera, but it somehow works because it's not, great like it's not they don't have the camera presence yet they don't have polished standing they're completely unpolished but they're trying really hard and trying to force things to happen it's all going to come crumbling down at some point when they have to show their true true colors now i think some of this is their true colors i think some of them are messy and uh terrible people but at the end of the day you can only hide that for so long especially

when you're trying this art it works it works right now exactly exactly and for those of you that have been with us for series premieres, I know this is technically not I don't know why they do this. I don't know why this is under the same umbrella as Vanderpump rules the OG. I don't know why this is quote unquote season 12 or whatever the fuck it is.

This is a new show. Just put it in a different bracket. Does it cost more money to make a new tab? Say this is VPR 2? No. I wonder if it's just like brand recognition, but like we all know what it is. No one's like tuning in for the first time

because they saw a trailer during the Super Bowl or something and they're like, oh, this is a good call. Let's just dip into this. Like, everybody knows what VPR is. Like, you don't have to do this. I don't, I mean, they're already doing this kind of where they're branding different offshooting shows like the valley. So you've got Shaza sunset in the valley.

You've got the original valley. So maybe do this like a next gen, like next gen, next gen. Yeah, yeah. Like, just kind of do it under that umbrella. I don't know. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I guess it kind of work. although the problem I'll probably run into is watching old VPR episodes and then I won't get alerted when there's a new one, even though I know there's a new one, but I won't get the new stuff and I'll have to go back through Peacock to get back to season 12. Is that right? Yeah, I think it's 12. Yeah. So that's going to be annoying. But no, look, we just went down a weird path. I enjoyed it. I had a great time. I had a great time. It's going to take us a little while to understand who everybody is to get everybody's name right. First takeaway.

fucking love Venus. I absolutely love Venus. Venus is great. Yeah, he's got the potential to be a rising star. We love to see that. I enjoyed the majority of the cast. I don't have anybody where I'm like, oh, fuck that person. So that's good for a premiere.

Not even Shane? Because I'm kind of like, alright, Shane, enough. No, no, not even Shane. Because he's leaning so hard into it. And you can tell, like you pointed out, they're all doing too much. he's doing probably the most and it's on i think marcus is doing the most yeah but but with both

of them it's not sustainable and that's what's going to be fun it's going to their first fight is going to fucking feed families yeah it's going to be remarkable to watch but as i was saying if you haven't been with us for a series premiere there's not a lot yet this might not be a very long it will do our best to break things down but because we don't know people and because this is a lot just intros this is going to be pretty much us introing the show to you as well but we'll jump in and the first person we meet and this is usually an indicator of where they're going to land in the show they always lead us off with somebody that's going to be a big presence so we start out with venus he's awesome he's at 36 jobs but he loves he loves working at sir it feels like

high school that's the kind of vibes you know and everybody be fucking that's that's that's the big thing they're going to do with this one in particular is remind us that OGVPR was a lot of sex early on where everyone was just banging each other. So they're really hammering the sex part home. After he said it, like, I got it. You guys all bang. Okay. The sex and the drinking is going to be hammered home for the most part. And I'm okay with that. You know, that's what I signed up for. Sex and booze. And then we get to meet Natalie, who is a bartender who his best friends with Venus, Natalie's an interesting character, very interesting character. She got suspended last week for going to Sir on her off night and screaming at her

ex-boyfriend, Paolo, who we don't meet, who is 54 years old. She's 26. Is Paula still work there? Like, that's what I was under. I don't think he does, right? I think he does. Not everybody that works there even in seasons past. He's going to be on TV, but he would be a very interesting character to just pop up here.

because it seems like he's integral to the entire thing. But I'm okay with it. I think the funniest thing to come from this is that would be such a killer, like, mid-season moment is Natalie drunk with her, what was it, stepdad and stepbrother that came over? And they're just innocent in all of this. And Natalie just gets hammered and goes after her ex-boyfriend in the middle of the season. Instead, this happened a week before they started filming. Like, what a killer.

I'm sure producers are like, fuck, that would have been. great but we don't have enough backstory why can't these people just be normal and just act like they understand what they're doing no that's actually perfect because they're so unpolished that they're not saving their big moments for a camera they're doing it just out of pure emotion and that's what you want i want genuine chaos i don't want to produce chaos i wanted to be authentic and dumb and funny and entertaining because that's what this shows about a bunch of dumb 20-somethings, who have dreams to make it in the entertainment industry, getting hammered and doing stupid shit with no money.

That's what made Danderpump rules great. That's the other thing that we're going to have to endure. And I'll take the lead on this one because usually I don't like it when we see Housewives and people on other shows trying to push their music careers down our faces. I'm okay with it in this because I know that all of them are probably bad actors. All of them can't sing. So it's just going to be kind of funny for me. I'm all right with that.

Yeah, and it's also different than like a housewife show. Like you'll see a housewife somewhere down the line into her tenure on the show. Be like, you know what? I want to try singing now. These people all move to L.A. to be singers and actors and models. So it's like this is their thing, which makes it even better, I think. But Chris is new to sir.

He's currently being trained. Nobody's actually training him. And he's just getting fed to the wolves, as he said. and he's working at Sir to quote unquote not work, which Lisa will be thrilled to see. And then he does probably the worst De Niro impression I've ever seen. But at least he says it's cringy. Yeah, he knows that it's cringy at least.

And this is what we're going to get. And this is kind of what I was expecting. I do like the mix of a couple people who have been working there for a few years, not to say that they understand how the show works, but rather that they're established at Sir. Now you're obviously going to have a couple of new people. We can call them industry plants if you want to. that's what Chris is.

Chris got hired before they started filming so that he could be on the show and that's okay and I don't think Lisa's going to care when she sees that confessional saying that he's just there to not work. He's there to do the show. I just spent for like a boss standpoint. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

But that being said, Chris has been on reality TV twice. This is now his third time. The first one, which I think is the most interesting thing is he has a twin brother. He was on some show. I think it was TLC, which is like dating families or something.

That has TLC all over it. yeah it's got TLC all over so I assume that the premise of that show is that him and his twin kind of just go out and they're probably dating the same girl back and forth just to see which one she likes more that's very fun he was also on perfect match on Netflix which seems right up his alley so he's a seasoned vet when it comes to reality TV this is a lot different but he's going to have a lot of the good nuances of standing how this show's going to play out that's what he was hired for and I'm okay with that I'm fully fine with that yeah we've never subscribed to the like when people get pissed off that friends are on the show or that somebody was a huge fan of the show it's like no shit how do you think they heard about the show like that it's all about like give me the background story and then when they show up if they're trying too hard because they've seen the show before that's annoying but if they're just chaotic in nature I'm fine with absolutely Marcus Marcus is interesting and he's ripping shots pre-service he's he's hiding around the restaurant so that he can have some drinks during we know that these guys all drink

during their shift that's that's been inherent since we started watching vanderpump but he's kind of like the wild card self-proclaimed wildcard and he hates working his whole motto is do less do less at work just don't do anything except drink and have fun he's not what i thought he was going to be as this episode played out like my my first impression and then I was like, oh, wow, you're that guy, huh? Yeah. So he is also involved, and everybody knows any LVP show will have a toxic couple at the root.

This is the couple. Him and his girlfriend, Kimberly, Kimberly works there. They've been dating, I think, less than a year. I think we get that. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said that later. Yeah.

And, you know, two years ago, Marcus was a makeout bandit. And then we just get montages of them fighting. And it's like, okay, so this is the couple for the. this show which is fine that's a trope that i've come to enjoy on lvp shows i just don't want to do the oh he's stasi or sorry she's stossy and he's jacks it's the new stossi jacks no no no we're gonna let this one breathe uh we did that for uh bannertp villa let it breathe it's just not associate that same as southern hospitality it's not the same show not the same people yeah this one's probably the closest that we're going to get but don't do that because

you're not going to be able to enjoy it right And Marcus is besties with Venus, so much so that he shows Venus as dickpicks before sending them. Which all bros do that, you know. Everybody does that. Everybody does that. It's not weird at all. Nope. And then we get LVP.

And her and Natalie sit down. It's like the first real scene of the episode. And it's just kind of her welcome back to Sir, what happened. She drops a young lady on her. And her defense is, look, it's a small restaurant. You know, and I'm here all the time. Like, shit's going to get weird when I work with somebody that I dated. And she's like, you're fucking night off, dude.

It's like, ah, yeah, right, shit. That's like one of my favorite things, too. And it's a good trope for a show like this, too. I don't understand it. If I worked in the restaurant industry, I probably wouldn't be spending my days off going there. You get free drinks. You get free drinks. You know the people.

Fine. I get it. You're in the industry. It's okay. I've never understood it, but it does work like that. And a lot of people that work in the restaurant industry, they go back to where they work or where they previously worked or another bartender who used to work with them.

It's all very, I don't want to say. You're saying incestuous. I don't want to say incestuous, but it is very incestuous. So it makes sense. And I feel like that's like the raw, uncut version of what we're going to get for a show like this is moments like that. So she's not fully understanding. And I don't think LVP, LVP understands she doesn't give a shit, that that's how that's going to work.

Like my stepdad's in town. Of course, I'm going to show him where I work. And then, of course, I'm going to get belligerently drunk and go after my ex-boyfriend and tell him that he needs to unblock my number. That's what makes these shows great. And I love that LVP does it in a way of she's stoking the flame, but she's doing it in a way of, I own this restaurant. We have to make sure that we're putting on a brave face and we're showing the rest of Hollywood or West Hollywood that we're going to be able to last while all these other places are shutting no you're doing this because it's a show you understand that don't you know don't pull the blindfold over us yeah we know what's going on we

weren't born yesterday and her first confessional not really i mean she had smaller ones but this is her first big moment she lists her reasons why she shouldn't be getting yelled at mercury's in retrograde by the way and i'm not i'm not boikin in two years by the way so that's why I'm so angry. This is what you were talking about. This is them trying to. This is her watching previous seasons of Vanderpump rules and being like, here's my speech. Now, normally that would piss me off.

For whatever reason, it did not. I was like, okay. I know you're faking this, but I'm okay. Yeah, I'm with you. I understand exactly what you're saying. But at the same time, there is so many truths involved in this. I guarantee you that she's the type of. a girl that has a list. She actually does follow astronomy. Astrology. Astrology.

Never understand that. She does follow it and she blames the planets on her behavior. And I guarantee you that is actually how she lives. And that's perfect for me. That lines up perfectly for a show like this. Blame all of your bad behaviors on Mercury. Why the fuck not? Who cares? I don't care why you're a terrible person. I don't care why you do bad things. It doesn't really matter to me. It's good TV. And just keep going down that path. I'm okay with that. Yeah, and Lisa's like, I'm going to give you a break this time. It's like, okay, Lisa, sure. Just a slap on the wrist.

I have to make an example. She does that later too. It's like, I have to have a sacrificial lamb to show you guys that I'm running a tight ship here. No, you're not. Lisa, we've been doing this for like 20 fucking years. Like, no, we know that you're not running a tight ship and we love it. That's why we watch is the lack of tightness on your ship. But the rest of the episode is just kind of bopping around meeting people,

seeing first interactions, things like that, getting the dynamics of the group. And as Natalie and Marcus are chit-chatting, we get Shane. And Shane walks in and Marcus says, Shane, you can tell Shane's hot by his laugh. Oh,

is what he does. I think that was actually pretty good. It was a pretty good impression. Yeah, that was pretty good. And I also love that Marcus does that. And we all know exactly the type of guy that Shane goes to me. As soon as you do that laugh. And then Shane does that laugh on the way into.

her with a girl after Natalie warms up to it a little bit talking about how she's talking to Shane. I've been talking to him for a couple of weeks now. We're really hitting it off. We're really viving. Shane's got a girl with them. This is going to melt down very quickly. I love this. Yeah, it's great, especially when you find out the motives behind it later. That was pretty funny. But show, yeah, damn, that is Shane Davis, is the direct quote from Marcus. And like you said, shows up with Nika I believe we find out her name later and promised he wouldn't do that

so now Natalie's pissed off but Shane is a fellow brother in sobriety love that and his type is women I normally hate people like this we need this on this show we need this guy so I understand the frustrations I understand he's a douchebag

we need douchebags we need him. Okay, cool. I thought you were going to continue. No, I was ready for a response. I agree with you. What do you want me to say? I don't know. I don't know what you're going to say. That's why we have a podcast. I say stuff. You say stuff in the conversation. It was so awkward. You just stared at me. I'm like, are you going? Like what? We can usually read each other when you're supposed to go and when I go. So we just had a little hiccup right there. Yeah, well, it was more of a burp, Honestly, that kind of threw me off. That's fair.

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So that also bodes well for this show. And Shane, Shane Davis, he brought this girl as a move. He knew what he was doing the whole time. I'm going to make her jealous. Yeah, that usually bodes well when you're dealing with crazy, is trying to get a move. her to get jealous. That's a flip of a coin. That is definitely a flip of a coin.

You don't know how that's going to play out. I do think maybe if he has the information that Natalie was just suspended for being crazy, especially towards the next boyfriend, that she's going to play it somewhat cool, at least while you're at Sir. Maybe it'll come up later when we go to the Belmont. Who knows how that's going to play out? It played out well for him because Nica couldn't go out afterwards. Which he knew.

Come on. You know that he knew. And of course, Nika also wasn't drinking. She couldn't go out. She's like, I'm just kind of here to hang out with Shane, get to know him. Hang out at Sir without booze. Yeah, hanging out at Sir without booze. I didn't see the two of you even interact aside from when you walked in together.

What were you guys talking about on the walk over? I can't even see how a conversation would play out between those two. This was clearly, and I think Nika, I don't want to bury her too much, but she didn't know that she was just being used as a pawn. Shea walked in with her, and immediately started talking to Venus, started talking to Marcus, started talking to Natalie, and then Nika was gone. So see you. Sorry, sorry, I'm going to see you again, Nika. No, I doubt it.

But the whole group goes out. Natalie's venting, obviously, because she got reprimanded at work. And she's like, what am I supposed to do? Like, I didn't do anything wrong. But we find out there's more wrinkles here because Pollo also dated Demi. Demi, who is the, I think the assistant manager. Assistant manager, yeah. Who do you think's managing all of these people?

Do you think Peter's behind all this? No, Natalie, the other blonde Natalie that we see later. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's a funny scene. I can't wait to get to that one. She can't handle this. Yeah, but she's been, I mean, she was on BPR back in the good old days, but Nika

comes up in conversation. And he's like, why did you bring her? You said to you. He's like, ah, you know what? I did do that. But I just, I was crashing out, man, because I was feeling you. I don't know what you want for me. He goes for the, you know, I was talking to this chick and like I was feeling her,

but she wasn't really feeling me. You know what? I fucked up. Can I have a hug? Worked. Worked like a charm. Yep. Yeah.

Mercer is retrograde. What are you going to do? Shane fucking Davis, dude. But the big topic of conversation is Marcus and Natalie and their friendship. And maybe they're getting a little. too friendly because Kimberly has noticed some things and these are things that you should be noticing because what the fuck she's sending good morning text to Marcus she's sending pictures of heels to Marcus fuck me heels as she says she's doing way too much with your boyfriend you

are correct that is inappropriate and no it's not okay because he says she's like a sister to me that's what people say because they don't want you to think that he wants to boink her when he actually does want to blinker. Yeah, I think what Natalie should be doing or rather actually what Kim should be doing is reading into whether or not Marcus has a foot fetish, because is he getting a little bricked up when it comes to those heel picks?

Probably, I'm sure he is. And do not take anything he says for face value based on what I know about your relationship, which is about 30 minutes worth of watching the two of you interact. There's not a lot to go off of, but in a world like this, there is a lot to go off of. And I would not trust that at all.

no absolutely not we've seen this play out you're going to be upset Kimberly get out now yeah yeah yeah this is I do love watching the toxic relationships play out on TV though I know much fun man just so entertaining and you get moments like this because now Natalie and Kimberly are fighting over this fucking guy like why are you talking to why can't I talk to him he's my he's like my big brother he calls me his little sister and last I checked incest is still bad what what a sentence the two of them are playing it all out in their heads they're arguing over marcus marcus is over in the corner probably showing venus his dick saying hey do you think this looks weird how's the saying going on over here is this angle good who are you sending a dick pick

to i don't know i'm not going to send it to i don't know let's get back to this what's going on we're shane davis let's check out she davis exactly is he laughing over there let me go over there Let me just join Shane for a minute. I'll just talk about what's going on his. They still are you it over here? That's all we've got going on at this party. It's really just between Natalie and Kim fighting over potentially Marcus, but that's never going to amount to anything.

It's just a good way for us to get background history and get some sort of psych breakdown on what we're going to be able to expect, which is we should expect the unexpected when it comes to this group. We have no idea what the fuck's going to play out, but I'm living for it. That's what I want from this. I want this sort of chaos in a show like this because it's going to be able to provide us with endless entertainment of things that we didn't expect. And we're just going to expect to see them budding heads the whole time. And that's what I want.

I agree. I completely agree. Audrey does not agree. She thinks that Kimberly's overreacting, which is crazy. That's a crazy thing to say in that regard. But Venus is crazier. you really got to defend Natalie. What?

No, no, he should not do that. That's the worst advice he could possibly give him. Venus, what are you talking about? And he's like, he says it. Marcus is like, oh, yeah, right. I'm going to go defend that. I'm going to go home and get an earful for all this shit. Like, no, I'm not going to go defend Natalie.

And sure enough, cut to the next morning. And we get Jim Sesh with Shane Davis and Marcus, find out that they've been friends for like 11 years through modeling and things like that. Shane is the Baumann model. He's the LaCost model. Marcus is your budget brand model. He's getting 500 bones to take a picture in, you know, those like Getty images, the stock images. Yeah.

Yeah, he's going over to Coles getting that, getting paid in Coles cash. Exactly. That's still a thing. I don't know. It is definitely still a thing. Love me some Coles Cash. It's a good breakdown between the two of them. Yeah.

It's a good dynamic, actually. I like these two together. I think they're dumb and funny. But they're talking about the night prior. And we're getting a little juxtapose scene. We get Venus with Kimberly, and they're talking about it as well. And they're just speculating on Natalie and their whole situation. Venus, who said to defend Natalie, is now saying, well, Marcus is telling her that they're siblings.

He's putting all the onus on Marcus, saying, like, he's the one that's doing this and telling her what to do, what to say, and like how to feel about the situation. So he's the real problem here. And she spent the evening yelling at Marcus, as we find. out she went to his house or she he went to her house i guess and they were arguing till five in the morning marcus was saying it wasn't a big deal or some bullshit and she was upset marcus found out to smoke a cigarette she's inside crying upset that he's not coming to console her marcus says fuck this i got a gym sash with shane davis tomorrow morning i got to go to bed it's five a m i'm going home he goes home sure enough checks his phone she has his location and she

is following him to his house yep Awesome. That is a great way for all of that to play out. And it's exactly what we wanted. And now I go back to the conversation that Venus had with Marcus. What's one more thing that she's going to be mad at you about? Why not defend Natalie? You know what?

Just try to save her a little bit because you're already going to be in for it no matter what you do. And you guys are probably going to spend some time apart. Then you're going to get back together the next week. Why not? Just dip your toe in there. Defend Natalie a little bit. She'll like it. And then inevitably, when you and Kim probably break up again, you can dip your toe into

is something else and that would I don't know I don't know nope nope not bad like that I don't know stuff on the the heel picks that's a little foot fetish you have a thing maybe I do now I'll I'll I'll check and I'll report back to you yeah let me know keep me posted send me a dick pick but let's get to service we're back at sir and Natalie goes over to talk to LVP and uh again fake as fuck but whatever I was watching the cameras to find something I lost last night. Okay.

And just so happened to stumble across this exact footage because I lost something in the closet apparently. And they're all drinking. Can you believe it? I don't run those types of establishments. This will not do. This will not stand.

I know that it happens a little bit here and there, but no, not on my watch. We've seen this in every show that she's at. Yeah. And wait, what's the manager's name, Natalie? Natalie. Again?

Oh, God, too many Natalie's. I can't do that. Natuli. She seems so broken up about this. She seems really upset. She can't be doing this. Like, she actually genuinely felt like she was upset that she caught Marcus. And he's teaching Chris to do this.

He's going in there and taking shots of sangria. Funny. Then they're coming back out and they're getting more shots from service and then going to the back and doing it again. What are we doing here? This isn't how we're going to be able to do this. How are they supposed to serve food while drunk? I don't know. Ask the 50 people that have done this over the last 20 years of

Sir. Maybe they'll have some sort of perspective. Who knows? Cocaine is how they do it. That usually is a good offset for- Sorry, AC. Uh-huh. Yep, that's what we call now. Mm-hmm. And it's a bigger issue because Sir has an HR now. Yeah. I would hate to be them. Whoever's in charge of HR at Sir, it has to be a horrible job full of complaints. The HR team got high. at some point in the interim of,

well, these people don't really work here anymore. They're still doing the show. We just have to just bite the bullet and deal with the cameras coming in here and there. But it's not that big of a deal. Oh, we're doing another show. Oh, God. And we're starting over.

And these people are actually going to work here. And they're going to do these things. You're going to have to pay me more. I can't. Actually, you know what? HR, you're fired because we can't have you involved. We need the drama. But we also learn that Sir is surviving.

but not thriving. COVID hit every restaurant really hard. We obviously had to say goodbye to pump. And that whole area of West Hollywood has not rebounded, according to Lisa. So they're a little bit nervous. And that also adds some stress to this whole drinking situation, or at least that's what they want us to think. And so we cut over to Natalie at the recording studio.

Natalie is a want-to-be singer and actress. And so she's putting together a new song called Passenger. which is about the first dude she poinked after Paulo. A hinge date. Do you imagine going on one hinge date hooking up and then watching a TV show and be like, oh my God, you wrote a song about me?

Yeah, God. We could all be so lucky. Right? Just have a song written about us. That would be nice. But her reasoning, I agree, but her reasoning behind her success or future success

is that she grew up in the neighborhood next to Ariana Grande. They ate the same Italian food. They went to the same mall. The same stuff I'm putting in my body is the same stuff that's coming out of my body. Yeah. That was a weird phrase. I had to go back and rewatch that one.

I don't like that. I don't think he did that. No, especially after you say you eat the same Italian food. Because what you just said in so many words is we eat the same food and shit the same poop. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I, something tells me that Ariana Grande is not doing that anymore. So is it?

Mm-mm. No, no, it's not. Although she did have so much success so early on. And I could just hope that I could have the same excess. Yeah, sure. That works. Yeah. I'm on board for that.

Not terrible. Her voice is actually pretty good. I was worried the first intro we got. I was like, ooh, that was flat. Yeah. But she's not awful. Uh, I'm sure we'll get more. much more of her singing, and we can really make a judgment call.

But as of now, it's not the worst I've ever heard, especially on Bravo. Give it a couple seasons. She'll be on a pride float trying to sing her song. It'll be disastrous, but fun. Yes. Yeah, it'll be good as gold, baby. But Demi, Demi arrives, and I guess Natalie went off on Demi as well during the whole polo shit.

And Demi's like, I just love watching knowing what we're going to get later. and she'd that cannot happen again okay okay sure that's light work to what you're about to get but we get some more info about paulo and this supposed love triangle or maybe it's a new love trapezoid as we've seen on southern charm and we could be so lucky demi and paula were together and then natalie entered the frame so that we get a triangle but demi says is it really a triangle if two parts of the triangle are triangulating elsewhere, implying that they're both cheating on each other. So that's an interesting thing I took note of because I want some infidelity in this group.

I want to know that so-and-so hooked up with so-and-so while so-and-so is hooking up with so-and-so. That's when this shit gets really good, i.e. Sand of Alt-Doddy and Jacks. I know we'd like to draw comparisons, but that's an easy one to make. So I hope that we get to dive further into this. I hope that this is a triangle waiting to collapse, the house of cards, if you will. Imagine it will be just because of, and again, you have to think about these things, especially early on in the show like this, Demi being the assistant manager.

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who are half cousins, and you could argue too much eyebrows for everybody, according to them, because Chris, or sorry, Jason has the twin brother, they all do look like triplets i will say that but they're going surf and bro and catch some waves shred some nar and chit chat about the future i like these dudes i like this duo i think these are our most normal maybe our voice of reason somewhat they both seem really naive so that could throw a a wrench into that one but they just seem like nice guys they're both new to

which helps because marcus has kind of been around the block a little bit he's been at sur for a little while he understands how the dynamics work with all the girls that work there. These guys are both new. They're both just trying to draw some sort of, I don't know, clarification from how this is all going to play out. And I like that because we get to watch these established entities in, you know, Natalie and Kim and Marcus and Shane to some extent. But you've got these guys kind of on the outside.

We're pretty much just hired to be on this show. So let's have some fun. And let's try to mix it up a little bit and just try to try to. to make sense out of all of this. And I think that's what we're going to get from the two of them. And I'm okay with that. I don't want to drive a wedge early between the two of them, but there will be a wedge at some point in the next season or two.

Right now, just be our narrators, be our voice of reason, like you said, who's going to try to make some sense out of what the fuck just happened? Because that's what we need. It kind of draws us into them, and then we can kind of have a better perspective on what's going on with the rest of them. Or they're trying to do something else, and they are attempting to redeliver Schwartz and Sandival. in a different capacity, which I hope...

They're already way more athletic and better looking than Schwartz and Santa Paul. So they already got a leg up there. Yeah, I agree. But we find out more about these two. Chris has an only fans. He's done some modeling. And they've both been strippers.

To make some money in college to pay for their rent, they were both stripping. Jason was studying medicine. I don't know what happened there, if he still is studying medicine. probably not i think at the meeting someone said he's in class oh right right right right jason and chris were sitting down before this earlier on i think and they were sitting at someone's apartment talking about the fact that he's going to class so yes maybe he's still studying uh but regardless

they put himself through college we love that absolutely the tale is old as time and we don't we don't shame anybody you make that bag however you have to hell yeah I will give credit here, though, definitely. When he says my dream is to do the live action tangled and I'll be Flynn Ryder, he looks identical to Flynn Ryder. So I would actually believe that one. But anyway, let's get back to Sir. And we have a quick meeting.

Got to check in. Hey, saw some shit I don't like last night. We're boozing at work. Guys, you fucking serious. Phenis, Jason, Marcus? What the hell? You guys are new. What are we doing here?

You're teaching these guys how to drink, how to be crazy. Yeah, dude, they're teaching them to rope. So this show's interesting. Fuck off. It's also like one of the easiest things, too, because that happens at every restaurant. That happens at every bar across America. I know. Of course it's going to happen.

What I will say is what we're going to get from this. And obviously, which is ridiculous that Kim interjects talking about how Marcus is never going to change. He's just going to keep doing the same. It's not that deep, which is funny that you're handling it this deeply. all he's going to learn is well fuck I guess I can't drink there anymore because there's a camera there they're going to find some new place to drink

they're going to find a new way to just go ahead and let me get the shots from here to here and then I'll drink there and you won't be able to see me on camera and that's how it's going to play out they're just going to have to fine tune things they're just going to start boofing

yeah yeah who's got the phone don't Google that for the love of God we got to go to Demi's favorite bathroom to boof I don't even know if you notice this. I did. I'm like, how cheap is this place?

The W for the women's room is literally an upside down M. Instead of purchasing an actual W, they're like, I don't even think that that was like a bathroom for customers either. I think that's just in the back for that. Yeah, we're not going to get a W. Just use that M over there and flip it over.

Yeah, come on. But she reprimands Marcus more than the rest, you know, getting on them about drinking at work. again. This is, this is for the camera. We know what's going on at these restaurants. And she tells me to go home and have a good think about it. This guy doesn't have a brain cell. What is he going to go think about? He's going to go think about how to hide it. That's what he's going to go think about. And all is, think about what to do on his day off now. Yeah. And his only like,

only thing that he got from this was, damn, I got caught. Oops. That's it. I did. So I really enjoyed the weird fourth wall break of seeing the producers asking him questions like what are you going to do what are you thinking about that I got fucking caught I don't know and at the end of the day he's just he just had to be made an example of

that's all we're doing it's the first episode LVP is going to try to make it look like this is a classy establishment again we've seen this before hey I got to make an example out of somebody and this one's pretty good honestly because he is showing a new guy how to get away with drinking at work

and they have it on camera, fine. I'm over for that. I do like the post game interviews. I like that. If we're going to incorporate that, like something goes down, get somebody there with a microphone. Hey,

how you feeling? Yeah. What would you do differently? Like, I love that. And like, the way, go ahead.

Oh, I was going to say West Hollywood is one of the best places for an inconspicuous boom, like a boom stick just running through the streets. A couple of cameras, a couple of producers. What's going on? What's going through your mind?

no one walking through West Hollywood is going to bat an eye at that. No, no, that's just, that's commonplace. And I think that it's setting the stage for, and I'm hoping, because like I like when Bravo does this, because you can tell by the way that they're cutting it together, you know, it's got a very, not a high school feel, but that same vibe of like college maybe. Like with the cuts of the pictures,

is almost looking at like a scrapbook or something like that like they're playing into the the nostalgia factor of trying to bring us back into our 20s and like when we used to do this shit not that we did this shit specifically but it's really doing i think a good job of that of setting the tone of what the what the dynamics are supposed to feel like what we're supposed to be looking at like i think they've actually shockingly done a really good job on the production side of things by setting it up this way and i like that if we are going to do things like that. Hey, how you feel it? And other weird shit. If we're going to try some new

things, I'm always cool with that. I love when Bravo actually tries to do shit rather than just run out the same product. So that excited me a little bit. But the episode ends with Kimberly venting, like you said, about

Marcus. He's never going to change. I'm glad he got made an example of this, that, the other, blah, blah, blah. Why are you with him then? What the fuck? no so this is very much so and again it's it's a great first episode of how this ends we don't know nor do we really care why the two are together it just sets up the anticipatory of this is what we're going to get we're going to get these two constantly budding heads we're going to get

these two coming back together starting new shit probably cheating on each other and then having to deal with the fallout and if we're going to do that in sirs back alley i'm all for it because that's going to be so nostalgic and they're going to be able to do it in a different way. And I think that's kind of very important for what they did for this first episode. It's all new people. There's all new dynamics. We've already got an established couple that is toxic already without the cameras. It's only going to get worse as we move for this.

And it's going to be very funny to watch how everybody interjects, to watch how Venus gets involved. I mean, we already saw that earlier in the episode. Venus is walking around telling Marcus, he needs to stick up for Natalie. Natalie's not his girlfriend. That makes zero sense. But in this situation, it makes total sense to me because they're such a weird group and they've already got these weird things and these weird foundations with each other that it's going to play out perfectly. I think that's a really good point too.

These people are friends. Yep. And that would have been the biggest whiff on Bravo's part to cast all new people. I'm sure, you know, like Chris, Jason, Jason, is that his name? Yep. That's Chris, yeah. Those guys, like you said, are plug-in plays, which is fine. We need a couple of those.

But the core of this group seems to hang out. They seem to party. They seem to actually know each other, actually have opinions on one another. This will devolve and get worse and worse in the best way possible because this is going to end up with Marcus cheating on her. Or it's going to end up with them breaking up, possibly coming back together, and then Marcus hooking up with somebody else. this there's only one way this ends and it's marcus boyking somebody else and it causing an absolute meltdown in sir which is i mean that's what vanderpump rules is that's what is built on so if we can get back to the roots of vanderpump rules without constant drawing of

comparisons to the old show they will have hit a home run with this and i'm so excited that we can have a premiere like this and discuss it in a way that's like there is a lot of upward mobility for this show in a good way. The ceiling at this point is non-existent. That's exciting. Is it going to go that way? I have no idea. But the fact that they kicked it off like this is very encouraging. Yeah, I think it's perfectly done. I think it seems like a very chaotic first episode, but that's exactly what we've won. And again, like you already said, they're all friends. They all have histories, they all have passed together. They seem to know each other very well, and they seem to have that it factor when it comes to that, where you know that, yeah, they're friends, but they

could turn on each other in an instant, that something could happen with Marcus and Kim, that something could happen with Marcus and Natalie, that something could happen with Natalie and literally anybody on this TV show, it's going to devolve very quickly, like you said, but that's important that we feel like we were thrown into this. You don't need that starting factor. You don't need that All right, we're going to introduce you to everybody, and then everybody's going to be introduced to each other. And we've seen that on a lot of shows. That's how they start off. But if you're going to keep the Vanderpump flame alive, if you're going to keep that whole story alive, this is the way to do it.

Because that was when Vanderpump was at its best is throwing us into the middle of this. They already know each other. Now, I guess we need to get to know them. But what better way to get to know them than to immediately see how toxic it is, than to immediately see how crazy and chaotic it can turn. and that's the best way to do it. And I'm completely fine with that. I don't need a bunch of background history on everybody here and there. We can pick that up along the way.

That's all we really want. I mean, you look at the original, how it started. It threw us right into Sheena and Brandy. You know, it was just pick up from a rumor or not a rumor of an affair that we'd heard about. Bang, we're onto a new show and we're right in the thick of it. That's the best way to do, especially these ensemble shows like this, where it's just us living in their world of this crazy restaurant. It's not like Housewiser is to jump from house to house.

We have a locale that we're going to have everybody in. Just let us get dirty. Let's get involved. I don't need the preamble. I just want to get involved. And they did a good job. We met everybody really quick. Like you said a lot of times with these premieres on Bravo, it's like 45 minutes of,

this is this person, this is how they know each other. this was this is everybody and now we're going to talk about stuff perfect well done it's all you need but we got to watch this one a bit early so we do not have questions but we will field your questions next week when you guys are all caught up exciting times exciting times a lot of good shows on bravo right now so that's all i got you got anything else nope well that's our show bros got to go we'll get right back to the rest of our episode but first a few words from our friends over at Uncommon Goods, and you've heard me talk about Uncommon Goods before.

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