Bros & Shows - We Love Love Hotel (Love Hotel Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

What's up Bros? We watched Love Hotel and let us tell ya... This show is great. It is the perfect put on and turn the mind off kind of show. The cast is perfect. You have Luann mixing it up, Gizelle g...rilling the guys, Ashley inevitably falling for one of them and Shannon is a fish out of water. And you know what? It just works. In this episode we get to meet the cast of dudes and they are also a riot. Earl the Pearl is a gem, Ralph is a stud, Wale is gunning for Ashley and Gerry just wants to surf. Their are other gentlemen involved but we cannot say enough how much we enjoyed this. So buckle up Bros and follow along this season with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:01 They stop being as serious. Obviously, we're waiting for Miami to come back. But in the meantime, what about a little dating show with the housewives? This is, I feel like when it first was announced and had the potential to really annoy me. But after watching this first episode, and all the lead up for the last couple of weeks, I've done a complete 180. I am just happy to watch this show. It's just delightful. It is.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It really is. I got to have me my pros and shows. Bros and shows. Brows and shows. I got to have me my Bros. and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by Love Ho Goots.
Starting point is 00:01:47 You little ho. Kind of saw that one coming. Look, like we said in the intro, this is just a fun show. it's going to be a good time i thought that it had the potential to you know mix it up a little bit maybe there's a couple of women fighting over a guy and that could still happen but i don't see it getting very serious even with the likes of shannon and leway it in there exactly and the cast they put together for it is is way better than i had expected i was excited that this was the cast like i like everybody on the show but the dynamic of these four women is fucking hilarious because
Starting point is 00:02:24 you kind of get every end of the spectrum here you know you got jazelle who's going to give it back to the dude she's going to press them which is fucking hilarious you got luan who is always down to date multiple people she's going to bop around you got ashley who is the romantic love drunk all that kind of shit going to dive in too quickly you got shannon who's a fish out of water like it's so funny that they covered every single ground here i love this show it falls into the crappy lake category for me where it's just funny it's fun And you can also tell, and I like it about this show, they're not there for love. No one's there to fall in love.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It's, let's date. Let's, let's boink a little bit. Let's have a good time. And let's get the fuck out of here. Like, it's perfect. Yeah. And I like that we can see these women outside of their respective shows, too. Now, obviously, the way in doesn't have a show right now.
Starting point is 00:03:12 But the other three do have shows. And Ashley was the one that kind of stood out to me beforehand. I'm like, how is this going to really work? And for whatever reason, it does work. She actually fits in. perfectly because she is looking for that guy in like the 45 and older range like 45 to 50 is probably where Ashley wants to be and I think she's going to find that obviously now there's some other people mixed in there but it still works you know the age group isn't too
Starting point is 00:03:38 thrown off it's not like we've got three guys in there in their 30s just to appease Ashley and Luann obviously you know lower 20s would probably be Luan speed but that's more of them in they're fine kind of a Joe Bradley age somewhere in there yeah it's somewhere in there it's unfortunate that we have to use Joe Bradley as the barometer for that. Sorry, Joe. It's a good age. So, yeah, I really thought that Ashley could be the one that stood out like, what are you doing here? She said something
Starting point is 00:04:03 very early on that I'm like, God damn, and Ashley, why do you do this to me? When she called Josh a civilian? Like, come on. Oh, yeah. What is this? We're not doing this. And like, that's the other reason I'm not taking this shit too seriously. We have seen since this show, Ashley's been out with Josh. I think they're
Starting point is 00:04:18 still together. I don't know if they took a break for this. I don't know if it falls under their they seem to have some kind of relationship parameters it seems like a very progressive relationship you know what i'm saying like there might be some other people like while they might get invited to join josh and ashley that's oh one of those i don't know i think it's kind of like a like open open and open door policy i like i think that you have a different air about you when it comes to discussing relationships and all of the uh labels if you will i think that after our talk last week you're you've got it you know we're in a good place you don't patronize me i think that you got i
Starting point is 00:04:57 explained to you what my issue was you didn't explain me shit but let's jump in to love hotel and you get the intro from our very good friend joel kimp booster uh from our stint on watch what happens live and he gives the rundown i'm getting like a little bit of a white lotus vibe they're trying to do in the beginning like the pool and then let's hope not let's hope not well no not like, I mean the location. Somebody's going to die? Yeah. Breaking news.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Fucking murder mystery. Fucking Earl's dead. No, it's going to be, just like the music and the intro gave me that kind of vibe. Actually, that gives me a good idea. Why don't the Housewives? Because we are so tired of like the games that they force on us at dinners all the time that end up terribly. Some of them are funny.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Most of them end up horribly. What do we do a murder mystery? I feel like that would actually be kind of fun because then you can get people going back. I'm just imagining the cast of Atlanta in a murder mystery because they would just all start yelling at each other like, I would actually kill you in real life, but you're alive here. Like, that's how that would go. Or like, if you put it on Salt Lake, someone would get pissed off that you murdered them. Like, why would you kill me? This has to be deeper. Yeah. What do you mean by you murdered me? Do you really want to murder me? Like, if you put it on each respective show,
Starting point is 00:06:15 we'd have very different murder mysteries that's a trademark what was that copyright okay yeah game night with bravo and you do things like that stick them in a house for a murder mystery do like different games with housewives and shit and just bravo lebs that would be a funny show that could work that has yeah that's a good summer show that's a really good summer show right murder mystery with the now the problem that we always run into with these is you do have to pay these people and they're not really willing to pay these people a lot more than they're already making so because these people they all want so much fucking money like just take the vacation and film a show for like a little bit less for our benefit you you selfish bastards but
Starting point is 00:06:58 anyway everyone's arriving we're getting we already the best part about this for us is that we know the backstories but i do like that they lay them out for us like ashley you know i'm in the middle of a divorce i'm 36 i've been dating i got luke josh quote unquote didn't work I don't believe that for a second, but I don't really care either. Giselle arrives. It looks fantastic, by the way, and describes her previous relationships and the Jamal recap, obviously, and now she's an empty nester with all the kids at school. So she's looking to get out there and mix it up.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I don't find Giselle looking for anything serious in a place like this. I think that she's here at all. I think that's what we're going to see in Potomac in the next couple of seasons, probably the next two, is Giselle kind of getting out there a little bit more. dating a little bit more seriously and she might find somebody that just works with her and what she wants to do with her life not on a show like this but again if they're it doesn't seem like they're taking it too seriously and every conversation that they have it seems like shannon's the only one that you're really going to have to break down and be like hey this is okay hey
Starting point is 00:08:01 Shannon we don't have to talk about your DUI we don't have to do this we can just get into it and you can date multiple people it's not that serious she's like no he's like no I need fall in love right now she it's different for like luanne's used to mixing it up like that's why it's funny that you have all these different types of people trying to navigate this because you have two of them that are like this is fucking funny this is fun lou ann and joselle like we're going to have a good time you got shannon who's doesn't know what she's doing and then you got ashley who's going to inadvertently fall in love by accident and then be like oh it's too much and like she's the romantic most likely yeah after the first episode i could i could easily see that happening the other thing
Starting point is 00:08:43 that we do have to keep in mind and we as the collective the royal we of the bros and shows fans yes the royal we keep in mind what the fuck happens with shannon this season because if you remember jolkin booster went on a tirade about how terrible she was and then had to reel it back in an issue an apology on instagram so just keep an eye on that we have to figure out what happens and if nothing happens then it all goes back to jkb because what are we doing here it was that it was the rat party right and he got fucking hammered and at like two in the morning started going off on shannon storms bador on his instagram story and then yeah he did have to reel it back in so i'm paying close attention to that storyline like where it went wrong and i'm sure i'm sure
Starting point is 00:09:30 that there was a moment with her that was like ridiculous i don't i don't think that he went off for no reason we've seen shannon we've heard stories about shannon so i'm sure that there's something there. But I am like locked in on that to try to figure out, okay, when did it happen? What happened? What did she say? For sure. So we're going to keep an eye on that. But Louanne arrives. And I love Luanne because her backstory is so fast because she doesn't give it. She's like married twice, divorce twice. Let's move on. And Shannon, who's been single for a year, obviously all of her shit going on. But let's get to the first meeting. No mention of Johnny Jay, by the way, which I was happy about. We don't need to talk about him.
Starting point is 00:10:09 If he came up, it would ruin the show. Maybe the producers like, hey, we're not talking about John Jansen. Okay, don't bring him out. I just don't bring him out. If I hear it once, I'm going to think, fuck, no, we're over him. But they lay out the rules here. It's a tailor-made experience for you ladies. We're here to fall in love.
Starting point is 00:10:29 All these dudes are hung like Bolo. Shout out, Bolo. I got a stable of stallions, baby. And I love the group of dudes. I was worried it was just going to be these, like, hot, there are a couple of hot 60-year-old men there, but I was worried that was going to be, we need a good mix. And we got a great mix. It seems like they all have a good personality. They're all very different, which I love. They all've got different things. They've got different backstories. You get a little touching moment here and there. There's one dude that just surfs all the time. Jerry. I love that. So I think the best way to approach this is, Give me, and with no particular woman, but give me your top three. Who do you like the most here?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Who do you think is going to be the eye candy for the whole season? The eye candy is Ralph. I canny's Ralph, for sure. The eye candy. Number one on the big board. Distinguished older gentlemen, like tall, handsome, tall, dark and handsome, everything you want. Wale, I like him. He's obviously a handsome fellow.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But Wale is pigeonholed. Wale is just going to be with Ashley. He is pigeonholed to Ashley. Unless Luann starts to drift. off a little bit, which should have. Very well might. She's going to be the wild card for sure. So she's going to be the one to fuck up other people's relationships on the show. And I'm cool with that. And I could definitely see her gravitating towards a Wale. I think that's like within her range of like, ooh, younger, hotter dude. Okay. I do personally, I think that Wale and
Starting point is 00:11:57 Ashley are just going to be, it's just going to be them. Like, yeah, Ashley's going to go on other dates. But I do think that it's pretty much always going to come back to Wale with Ashley. And that's okay. I'm good with that because that just eliminates one person off the board. and it's the person that isn't in the same age group as everyone else. So we can just get that out of the way immediately. Like, all right, Ashley, you go have fun. Enjoy your couple of weeks here with Waleigh. We'll be over here focusing on the shitstorm that's going to pop off with these three.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I think that's going to be kind of the aim because Wale, he's locked in on Ashley as well. Like they're both kind of zeroed in. But my big three would be Wale, and this could be recency bias for sure because this is who we got the most of. But Wale, Ralph, and Earl. won me over. Earl the Pearl. I was like, this dude is going to be a creep, which is on me, judging a book by his cover. He was not. So Earl the Pearl won me over. I think that those are my big three. How about you? I'm going to pop out while I put in, I like Jerry a lot. Jerry's going to be, so there's in, he's not going to be around long, I don't think. I think he's
Starting point is 00:13:00 just in and out. I don't know what the rules are. Actually, no, I'm going to put Jay in there. um i'm gonna put jay in there actually because based on this first episode i had him pegged immediately like oh he's gonna go after jazelle if that doesn't work out he's kind of done i think but after watching this episode i'm like yeah it doesn't seem like there's a ton of chemistry there let's see how he rebounds let's see what happens let's just get into that so i like jay a lot too so i'll put jay in instead of jerry okay all right i like that i think the interesting thing when you get like older dudes and just older dating in general it makes me laugh
Starting point is 00:13:35 because like there's less filters people say more outlandish shit to each other because you're just at that point in your life it's like why are we gonna take toe like let's just fucking get it out there so like that's what I love about when you have an older dating pool is they say the most random shit
Starting point is 00:13:49 but yeah which is Shannon sitting with Earl talking about like oh were you married before was she in her 20s immediately that was brutal but before we get to that one you get Luann talking to Jerry and Jeff boat talk which is uh you know pretty pretty standard for this group of dudes i would imagine
Starting point is 00:14:08 like most of them probably have boats none of them know the housewives none of them even have tvs which i'm like oh they're those guys which i that drives me not so i don't even watch tv they either don't have tv or they don't watch tv like yeah that that real estate broker was that jerry no jerry's the retired car no i think that he was talking about like a finance broker that's the Andy Cohen? Andy Cohen? The broker? What firm does he work?
Starting point is 00:14:31 No, no. Whoever said that was a real estate broker. That was, oh, I thought he was like a finance broker. That's the bye-bye-bye-old-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-old. Okay, all right. There you go. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:14:42 The vibe you got? You didn't read the, oh, yeah. I don't, when people are talking, I write. That's like usually what I listen and write, so I miss some things. But you get Shannon talking to Ralph, you know, he's got two kids, 10 and 11. He's the handsome, edgy, older gentleman. You got Ashley talking to Nicholas, who I do not like. Nicholas gives me the hebie-jeebies a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:02 The further we got into this episode, the less I liked him. He creeped me out. It started off with the earring up here, the little diamond studded earring. Yeah, not a big fan. That's, I don't really care about the earrings as much as just the overall. It's coupled with the way he talks. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Yeah, fair, fair. But you got Giselle talking to Jay. This is why Giselle's going to be so funny because she's like, he's like, I got divorced. She's like, what did you do? he's like, what do I do? No, what did you do? Why did you fuck that up? She's going to press all these dudes and the one that's going to win.
Starting point is 00:15:34 She said something after too. She's like, so is that where you were locked up, Houston? Like she wants somebody. Remember from Potomac? She won somebody who was in jail before. She wants she likes bad boys. She said that. And she also is like, if you're going to keep up with Giselle, you got to be able to take it and give it.
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Starting point is 00:17:39 Luan, and this is how I've figured this out, since there's, like, so many back and forth as I put asterisks next to, like, the big ones I want to talk about. Yeah. Luan with Jerry and Jeff. so I believe Jeff has five kids married 12 years Jerry lives in Puerto Rico he surfs every day all day and when I love Luan because she's like
Starting point is 00:18:01 all right boys I'm going to get a drink I'll be right back and she ditches them to go talk to Phil so Luan's already playing the game that's when you get Ashley and Wale and Walee came into this with a with an agenda he's locked in on Ashley he's 38 he just got out of a five year relationship just didn't work out
Starting point is 00:18:19 brings up healing and therapy, which is right up Ashley's Alley. He's done his research. He knows what he's. That was not a shot in the dark. He knew exactly what he was doing. Well, they did pose, somebody posed the question.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I think it was one of the women. Maybe Giselle asked the whole group, did you know who was going to be on this show before you guys got here? And everybody said no. Wale, absolutely knew that Ashley was going to be on the show. She was going to be there.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. That's come out now. But Shannon and Earl, let's get back to that because holy shit. you know because when he started talking about dating apps I'm like here we fucking go he's talking about bots and this and that and the other I'm like this guy's going to be gross so I did the same thing Shannon did and I feel bad for that because this dude walked in wearing gators with eyes on them he's got polka dot socks on he's got that that bead necklace
Starting point is 00:19:05 which I finally figured out as their microphone so I take that away like that's yeah because nicholas had it on later I'm like oh that's the mic necklace yeah while I headed on the next day too yeah because originally I'm like oh that's a duchy necklace and I'm that's a fuck what was that crazy Netflix show. Temptation Island. They had, they all had those crazy necklaces on them. Like, those are lame as hell. But then there was microphones. They were still lame because those guys sucked. But you see him on Bravo a lot. Bravo just has like the black tab off the black necklace. Those are all microphones. So gave a pass for that. But as she's talking to him, he's like, I've been married twice. You know, the first one's for a year and a half. And she's like,
Starting point is 00:19:40 oh, I bet she was in her 20s. Tell me she's in her 20s. He's like, yeah, my second wife, I was badly in love with. She got leukemia twice and died. And I know, I was jaw on the floor. And Shannon doesn't even know how to reel it back in. She's like, oh, my God. Wow. I'm so sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Like, what do you say to that? And, like, he's the opposite of what I thought. He's like, she taught me what love was. And like, when she got sick the second time, I learned what unconditional love is. And I, I just want that feeling back. And I'm like, Earl, Earl, the Pearl is just a big romantic. And I'm over here saying he's a creepy dating app guy. And that's my fault.
Starting point is 00:20:16 looking for real love and shannon what the fuck i mean that's kind of what you expect from shannon that was the thing though it's like yeah that's an awful he took it really well he handled it well he did yeah but like it was the most shannon moment ever like all right back in the dating pool oh your 20 year old wife no my dead wife oh fuck yeah and that's probably what she's used to she probably does go on like every once in a while she'll go on a date out in l.a or an oc and that's what she's used to talking about or hearing about or whatever it might be. But I do feel like I get the vibe from Shannon where she probably overheard Giselle making snarky comments.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like, oh, what did you do wrong in that? Yeah. And she's like, I can do that too. What about this? You were married to somebody in their 20s? No, my wife had leukemia twice. Oh, well, I'm never going to do that again. Stay in your lane, Shannon.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Do what you do. Don't do what Gisle does. No, because that's the thing. If Giselle had done that, she would have been able to backtrack out of it in like a smooth way. Shannon's just like, ha ha ha ha. Although I feel so bad and I have to go on a date with you. I have to invite you on a date and pretend like I like your shoes.
Starting point is 00:21:26 But Giselle gets some time with Wale. And I feel like Giselle's going to be more of a wing woman. Her only real shot here is if she finds some dude attractive. It feels like having a fun night or somebody like just kind of randomly catches her interest out of nowhere. Other than that, I feel like she's going to take on the- I can see Phil maybe stepping in. into that role? Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:21:47 We didn't see a lot. And typically the way that these shows go, you know, we get the, I don't want to call them heavy hitters, but we get probably the most charismatic guys out of the way first. We hear about them in the first episode. They're the ones who step up. They're the ones who go right to each woman and they have a story and they've got a personality. And it's like, all right, let's go out on a date. And if it doesn't work out, then we've got a next, you know, group starts to rise to the
Starting point is 00:22:08 surface. So I feel like that next group is going to be the most important group after these first dates that we're going to talk about in a little bit. And I feel like Phil could be rolling in there. I don't know. I got a vibe from him. Yeah, I can see that too. I can see that too.
Starting point is 00:22:20 But as they're chit-chatting, you know, he wants kids. So immediately she's like, all right, I'm out because one, I don't have a uterus and two, I'm not having more kids. So yeah. But she likes him. She liked his vibe. She liked his energy. So that's good because she's going to talk him up to Ashley.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So that bodes well for Waleh, who's in this conversation goes to a confessional. And he's like, yeah, I'm solely focused on Ashley. Like, Jelle's fine. But Ashley or bust is what he says. And he also knows the way to get to Ashley is probably through Giselle. Let me charm Giselle, and then she'll put it in a good word. Again, Waleigh did his research. He knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 He came in with a plan. And so far, he's executing that plan well. But JKB rolls in. We got one-on-ones tomorrow. We're doing the Sadie Hawkins. So you've got to go ask your date for a one-on-one date tomorrow. Then you get a split scene of the dudes with the ladies. The dudes don't really say much.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It's just you're going to see a rivalry emerge between Nicholas. and Waleigh, because Nicholas is also dead set on Ashley. I don't think Nicholas stands a chance against Waleigh personally, but it will be fun to see him flounder and try. While the ladies are talking, the Earl, the Pearl thing comes up. Shannon tells everyone what's going on. But she likes Ralph as well. I think everyone gives a resounding Ralph's number one in the group as of this moment,
Starting point is 00:23:38 the most eye candy at least. While that's happening, Earl, the Pearl, bring Shannon a drink. I thought that was a good move. It's a good move. Lovely move. Well done. We're over.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yep. And Luanne, she's in on Jerry. She wants to see what Jerry's all about. I don't think they're compatible out of the gate. But, you know, I don't, out of the gate, I thought they might have been because he seems way more free spirited, which is what Luan's probably going to be looking for. But afterwards, obviously, on the one-on-one day, it's like, up, nope, up in there. But that's, I think what appealed to her.
Starting point is 00:24:11 She's like, oh, he surfs all the time. he just moved to Puerto Rico on a whim. I love that down on an island. That sounds nice to me. Let's see what this guy's about. And yeah, once we figured that out, I'm like, nope. Just not Luann's cup of tea,
Starting point is 00:24:22 but Giselle's big on Roy. Who is Roy? Jay. Jay is Roy. I like Jay too. Jay's up there for me as well. And I left him out of my original three, but he's very close number four.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I think Jay's got a bright future ahead of him on this show. But everybody gets together while a slides right in on Ashley. like sits right next to her on the couch. Giselle power move. I love this move. She goes to bed. See you boys tomorrow. Walk off.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Watch me walk away and think of me tonight. That's like what she's doing. It's a great fucking move. So Giselle's playing really well. Waleigh and Ashley immediately. Like I feel like Waleigh is exactly Ashley's speed. Like I think they're on the same wavelength. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And this goes back to my point of dating like when you get older. because they're talking about, oh, we got to jump in the pool post workout after you do our hip thrust. I'm like, Jesus, that's forward. Again, very Ashley. Very. And she, yeah, I know. So, like, is he a huge Potomac fan? Do you think he watches the series or do you think he did his home?
Starting point is 00:25:25 I think he did his homework, probably. I think in a confessional he said he watched one episode of a housewife show and they were all fighting all the time, which. That's what they all say. That's what they all say. Yeah. But, yeah, I think he probably did his research. But again, this is so Ashley's speed. And that's the type of thing where Ashley will make a comment like that.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And I'll be like, oh, God, why do we do this? Why are we always talking about this? But if he's going to match your energy, I'm like, oh, that's good, good. This is a completely different show. Why not? Exactly. That's, I think it allows me also. And I will say Ashley had a good year on Potomac, which made me like her more than I have in years past.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And I think a lot of that has to do with the lack of Michael Darby on the show. Yeah, that's for sure. This is the perfect spot for me to really like Ashley because I don't. It's not going to affect the group dynamic. We're not going to talk about stupid shit. We don't need to talk about. It's just dating and her getting into situations. So, like, I think this is the perfect role for her.
Starting point is 00:26:20 So I'm actually excited to see what she does this season. But morning after, Ashley and Waleigh work out. And if she makes those sounds in public gyms, I really hope that that's not how she works out publicly. Because she's making sex sounds while they're working out. They're doing like a circuit together. She's like, oh, I'm like, what? whoa people don't do that when they're working out no i'm pretty sure that gym was empty for production reasons so i hope so i hope so if i was training somebody in the morning and
Starting point is 00:26:51 i heard that at the gym i would i would like ew yeah i have a wife leave me alone this is gross jazelle asks jay yes obviously louan asked jerry yes obviously and shannon who is awkward as fuck asks Earl and Earl says yes so we got our date set up and it gets a little confusing here because they just jump around from date to date. Let's just do date by date. I'm going to have to go
Starting point is 00:27:17 page by page but we'll do date by date is what I was thinking. So we'll start out with Jay and Giselle who do a little tequila tasting and we just talked about gold plated food yesterday. A gold taco for $25,000
Starting point is 00:27:33 If you buy, I don't either. I know it was like A5. A5 Wagu, which is fucking phenomenal. It's lobster and caviar and gold flakes. So yes, an expensive taco. But if you buy a $25,000 taco or any kind of food, you're a fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:27:57 If anyone buys this, if you're listening and you bought food that cost a single food item over $1,000, you're an idiot. I love you, but you're an idiot. There's no reason to do that. How much is the Meredith Mark's Caviar? I don't know, actually. We should order something. It's over a thousand.
Starting point is 00:28:14 We should do a tasting of Meredith Mark's caviar on Primal. I think I've ever had caviar. Really? I have once. I believe it's, I don't mind it. I think it's fine. I think it's wildly overrated. I think it's one of those things. You're like, hmm, I'm fancy. I'm eating caviar.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Yeah, that sounds great. That's like that good. But some people swear by it. I don't know. It's fine, I guess. But as these two are talking, let me find Giselle and Jay. Yeah. She lays out kind of what she's looking for, which is the same shit that we've heard. She wants somebody outgoing, somebody that can match her energy with that's sexually proficient.
Starting point is 00:28:49 My favorite thing about Giselle in any dating scenario. And honestly, pretty much every housewife that we see that's getting back into the dating pool post-divorce or whatever, they always make a sex comment every single dude that hears that goes I got it you're with the right guy then it's sort of the same thing is like it doesn't make sense
Starting point is 00:29:13 it's the same thing as everybody putting that they're proficient in Excel on their resumes everybody does it everybody says that they are every dude says that they're proficient in sex doesn't mean they are which she probably means is like compatible you know that's probably a better way to put that I think she means like you need to be good in bed
Starting point is 00:29:29 or I'm getting the fuck out of here Yeah, but wouldn't that be compatibility, too? I don't know. I mean, yeah, but I also don't think she's actually looking for love here. I think she just, you know, wants to have fun. I was more pointing out, it makes me laugh that every guy's like, oh, yeah, that's my best thing is sex. Why do you think I'm here?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yeah, let me show you. Like, it just makes me laugh because statistically, no, you're all not good at it. But hey, whatever. Giselle likes Jay. He's a nice fella. But she's like, do I want to bang? him or just get to know him he's a little bit boring and you know what no she's not into him it's pretty evident right out of the gate so she's going to move on to the next one back to the dating pool
Starting point is 00:30:10 uh so let's get to luann and jerry they're doing oyster and caviar tasting in a gigantic clam shell because you know who wouldn't want to do that very little mermaid yep yep and as they're talking this is where i was like ooh you got a shot jare because jerry's retired lives in porto rico which means he's probably got a little cash, you know, he might have a house back in the mainland. I don't really know. He was from New York,
Starting point is 00:30:34 yeah. So like that matched up, well, because I'm like, all right, well, she loves to bop around. She does her cabaret thing.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Like, she's not someone that's going to sit at home and just hang out with you and plant things. And he's like, I love planting and I'm a big homebody. I'm like, well, you're out.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yep. See later. Thanks for plant here. Especially, and this is why Luann's great because she's like, you know what, let's just test it,
Starting point is 00:30:54 just in case. and she gives him a smooch, I could feel the lack of chemistry. I was like, ooh. Yeah, that was the picture that I used for questions today was Luann looking off in the distance after that kiss. And Jerry, like, I think good, right? I nailed it.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And like, the way he was weirdly trying to touch her and then he'd stop touching her. I'm like, this is awkward. I don't like this. Yeah. So on to the next one, Luanne, which is what we want. We don't want anybody settling down too fast. That wouldn't be fun at all.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So let's get to Waleigh and Ashley, who are probably going to settle down. they're doing cacao and chocolate making classes and the minute that she walks up in her dress while he's like i don't want to be actually's friend no more like i'm all in i'm all in on ashley he's got less and less fancy as we went on by the way started at $25,000 tacos which you know what i'm not paying for but i would eat it oh then we moved to oysters and champagne in a big seashell kind of cool on the beach love that in combo why not now we're doing chocolate classes and the last one is just wine and cheese it's like we just completely
Starting point is 00:31:56 step down the ladder here yeah yeah slowly but surely then yeah because the wine and cheese is like in the bar area what if they got to pick they probably got to pick each housewife got to pick i'm sure you think i don't know i think so yeah that'd be interesting i don't know they all kind of seem their speed and then shannon's is just like yeah that's wine and cheese sure yeah yeah i don't really care i don't know what i'm doing actually is more of an activity yeah i'm fully convinced that they got to pick okay it makes sense to me now that you laid it out like that but while i and ashley why they click and why they're going to work at least for the duration of this show is because both of them are going to go too hard too fast because they're doing the the bean
Starting point is 00:32:37 thing and uh if you like peel the cacao bean without breaking the cacao bean it's like oh that's good luck for marriage and he's like i didn't come into this show talking about marriage and she's like oh my goodness they're both going to fall for that one and it's going to just push them so much further so much faster which we see at the end of this episode but i like them together i think it's a funny duo it works yeah yeah i'm down i could see with them just kind of shacking up and then obviously actually having input on the other conversations and maybe even while i get mixed up like oh what did you think about that guy jazelle and just kind of like talking to her about it so i can see that working and i'm cool with that honestly i know i don't want to like couple off one out of
Starting point is 00:33:15 only four but i'm actually okay with it with the entertainment value of the other three dating is way better than the entertainment value of watching Ashley continue to date. I think so too. I think it's actually the best spot for her is to not be bopping around and kind of be coupled up. So we can watch the other three just wreak havoc and Shannon struggle to talk without being awkward. It's going to be, that's the perfect setup. But let's get to Shannon and Earl. I guess he started by talking about his losing his wife. But I was also in response to her being mean about it. But he opened the door to like, let's talk about real shit.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And she starts immediately going over the last year, the DUI recap. I'm like, whoa, okay. Like we're really getting into this shit out of the gate. But I wrote down, I was like, Earl takes it pretty well. He's like, you know, life's a learning experience and his confessional. He's like, hey, I'm really glad that she was open and vulnerable. And they're even holding hands at the bar. I'm like, oh, these two are kind of cute, right?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Little cute. I'm actually okay with it. But that wraps up the dates and everyone kind of meets at the bar, which is even better. And I'm curious if this is, like we see scenes from after at the end of this episode, like scenes from the season. Dudes do start getting upset. Yeah. And I like that immediately after dates, it's right back to the group.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So then you have to watch the woman you just wanted a date with go talk to like seven other guys, which is hilarious. I think most, yeah, I guess I can't make that statement. I think a lot of the guys are going to be cool. I think Nicholas is going to be a fucking nightmare with this whole thing. He's going to be so weird. And when he showed up at this after party thing was when it solidified. Like, oh, you're a bizarre guy.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Like, I already started off at the earring. Then he took his sleeves off and he's got these like little niche tattoos, like the tiny tattoos. You see on like a girl that lives in Brooklyn. Sorry. Or like a barista. Put them out there. Yeah, yeah. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, lives in Brooklyn. So, like, that's sort of. of what i expected from him i just don't want to see much more of him he creeps me out definitely there's just there's something about him where i'm like yeah i don't why are you wearing a tank top sir yeah put on some like put on like a nice shirt god damn it you're supposed to impressing people you're too casual but the problem is and i knew this was going to happen as she's like i'm intrigued i'm like of course you are of course she has to me though look shake i think it's It's 50-50 for me if she's actually intrigued
Starting point is 00:35:48 because I could easily see Ashley being like, huh, yeah, you know what, he's my age. He's the age range that I want to be with. He's, he's interesting. I want to see where this goes. Also, it is a TV show. So she could be playing it up as we've seen before. Which I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I could go either way for me. I also think there's a big part of it where it's like, remember who she was married to, right? Like, she married Michael Darby. So her spectrum of whom she wants to date is a very wide net. and we've seen that on the show as well with Josh, like we've seen a lot of different characters
Starting point is 00:36:20 that she's been into. So Nicholas weirdly fits the bill because he is kind of strange. He is intrigued. It is, but like doesn't it make sense that like Ashley of all people would see him and be like,
Starting point is 00:36:34 hmm. Yeah. Maybe perhaps. I kind of want to see him and I love that like we're just making this judgment on this guy after one episode, but I'd love to see him try to hit on LeWan's and then have Louangelo. knock him down. Like, you're a weirdo.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Get away. That's what's so good about having Luann, having Giselle, is they, most of these guys cannot contend with them. I truly don't think they can. They can't hang. And like, that's going to be whoever's going to be able to give it and take it is going to be who's going to be able to spit some game to those two. I think Ralph again, Ralph was the star of this after party. Everybody wanted a piece of Ralph. Everybody was talking to Ralph. Talk to Giselle. And Giselle was like, hold up. I didn't think I was into Ralph, but I might be into Ralph.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I'm like, hell yeah, all right. We got some Ralph movement, but guess what? Shannon is into Ralph. Everyone's in. Ralph's going to be the Captain Jason of Love Hotel from what it looks like at this moment. He threw on those glasses too in the after party, just looking good. I know. He just looks, he looks good.
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Starting point is 00:39:47 the room and god damn it I felt I was like oh no dude like the awkward ass out hug like good night I'm like why do you think she said walk me back to my room dude what was that and the minute she gets back in she's like fucking kiss me bro and he's walking down the hallway like god damn it what am I doing stupid while I come on dumbass wallay come on He himself a little pep talk. Wale. No. That's all I was thinking about
Starting point is 00:40:18 every time I said his name was Wale A songs. But he walks back to the room. I did appreciate it. I, again, don't think it landed quite as well. But he made up some lost grounds. He knocks on the door. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I'm not saying it didn't work. I'm saying it would have done him. He probably gained two steps where he could have gained 10 steps if he didn't have to walk it. back i think it's i think it's a better situation i think he gained probably six steps when he do you think because he was like cordial and like a gentleman this is just but then he's also ashley's an enigma i don't know because i could see her over analyzing that and being like
Starting point is 00:40:56 he did realize it when he was walking away that this was his opportunity and i like that he took that opportunity like she could spin it in her own head which you know was nothing for us but it does a lot for her yeah so if she's great point she can look at it completely different so i don't know she's an interesting cat He came out of it well, then. All right. I think that we're going to see a lot there. Obviously, they kiss, like I said.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So they're set up pretty well. You get scenes from the season. Shit does pop off. You see Ashley crying at one point, did I make a mistake? There's no way that's about Waleigh. I wonder if she got a connection with Nicholas and was like, I can't do it. I like Wollet. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:32 This season is shaping up to be extremely entertaining. These are the kinds of shows that we love mixed into the serious, quote, serious stuff it just makes it light and fun so i i am completely 100% sold on love hotel it's great i am as well now let's get some questions we got a few of these in here i know it just happened last night so i didn't expect a lot but we do have what looks like five questions here uh i just put them up too i know uh from by nanks how many meltdowns do you think shannon will have five four how many episodes over under four over under four over I was going to say six.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I was going to say six. Six is the over. Okay. I'll take even money. All right. I like it. Yeah, I'm just say six. From something about podcast, do you think any of them will find love?
Starting point is 00:42:27 No. It might be the name of the show, but it is not what's going to happen. The only person here that could genuinely be looking for it is Shannon. The other three are here for fun, which I want. want that yeah um i wouldn't be baffled if shannon walks away from this with a boyfriend yeah if it goes anywhere i don't know but i can see shannon leaving this show with the love interest yeah yeah i agree with that uh from m still here which house wafer are we most excited to watch i think luan anytime she graces our screen yeah i mean luan is just delightful to have
Starting point is 00:43:06 any time that we get to watch her do her thing again but i don't know dude it's it's it's It's tough because they all bring such different things. Yeah. Like I just I love how Giselle talks to men. I just, I fucking love it because they can never formulate a thought. Like she just kind of stumps them the whole time. They're like, ah, yeah, I just, I love that. So I think Giselle, and I also like the fact that she gets taken off guard sometimes where she's like caught off guard.
Starting point is 00:43:32 She's like, oh, maybe I do like that guy. Like she just seems very authentic the way she goes about things. So, Giselle is for me, probably. from Rye Bread 1129. Did it feel like Ashley was acting based off of what
Starting point is 00:43:44 she's seen on The Bachelor? That's a funny way to put it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But that's what's great. If this was Potomac, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:43:54 fuck, knock it off. In this show, play it up. Lean in. Hell yeah. All about it. And last one to hear from L.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Dub. This is two questions, but thoughts on Earl the Pearl. I feel like we let our thoughts out there. Like them. Yeah, Earl.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah. I'm down for Earl. I'm okay with Earl. I think Earl brings an interesting dynamic. And I think that, again, I felt bad because I did what Shannon did. So his bounce back from doing absolutely nothing but existing was tremendous. So, yeah, big on Earl. The question is, are the white shoes that bad?
Starting point is 00:44:31 And my answer is yes. Yeah, no, they are. Yeah, they are. Because here's why. Then we'll wrap this up. they're a statement, right? Which means that he put a lot of emphasis and thought into these shoes. And he also doesn't recognize that when people talk about the shoes, they're doing it in jest.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So he leans further into the shoes. Yeah. And that says a lot about his fashion in general. You can kind of, I could probably predict some of the fits that he's going to walk out. And there's going to be a lot of unbuttoned shirts, a lot of probably two tight pants and some, like, shiny materials is kind of what I think. Yeah, I can see all of that happening. So that's something you've got to deal with. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:45:14 He could be an absolute sweetheart, but his fashion is going to be crazy. And, you know, if you're going to be down with Earl, you've got to be down with the wacky shit. You got to be down with the Pearl. If you're going to be with Earl, you got to be down with the Pearl, baby. I love this show. I'm so excited for this. I didn't think I was going to be. I really didn't.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Going into it, I'm like, fuck. And then I was like, wow. It's a great breakup in between. And it's early in the week, so you can kind of just get your week started off on the radio, you know? Yeah, that's a great way to put it. But we will be back for Love Hotel. We'll be back today. We've got to record another episode.
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