Bros & Shows - What Does the Text Say, Kyle? (RHOBH Full Recap)

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

What's up Bros? Things are getting messy in RHOBH. We pick up in the Viper Room and Kyle and Dorit are still going at each other. Sutton and Garcelle seem to be team Kyle while at the Viper Room, but their stance shifts as we progress through this episode. Boz goes to bat for Dorit implying maybe she had things to get off her chest. Sutton, Garcelle and Kyle get together for a country club day at Suttons. While discussing Dorit, questions about the contents of the texts arise. Things get a little crazier when Sutton implies infidelity and not the instagram issues we've heard about previously. Boz has fibroid surgery and while on the mend, Kyle goes over to "get to know her" aka to do damage control. Sutton, Kyle and Garcelle once again get together to surprise Erika with a pizza party finally at Charles Entertainment Cheese (Chuck E Cheese) and while sharing a slice, Garcelle proclaims if Kyle wants to be a lesbian, be a lesbian. But then Kyle reveals the contents of a text with PK and the text itself alludes to them discussing way more than just memes. Dorit wants to know what is in the texts and the more Kyle defends herself, the shadier it looks. Garcelle goes to check in on Boz and they discuss Dorit some more. The episode ends with Garcelle revealing what Kyle's text said confirming that Kyle lied to Boz's face... If you want to get involved with our next live stream episode, click the link below to join our Members program! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I didn't think that was possible after the last couple of seasons, especially last year. I thought I had reached my limit of like, oh, I'm sick of her shit. This episode topped it. This was crazy to see the bubble that she lives in, like this old little world, her own little planet. But everybody else, for the most part, I'm pretty. Shows. Brows and Shows. I got to have me. My Bros. and Shows. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bros. and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only Shooter Magouter. What's up, dude? I especially love having conversations with you

about the new intro, and you started off with the old intro. Oh, shit. I forgot we're supposed to do, like, the preamble talk first. This is preamble now. Yeah, no, leave this. Leave all all of this in this is perfect this is what i want everybody to know the show is about it's us forgetting about rebranding and uh talking about beverly hills at some point but we're probably just going to be stupid for a little while and you're just going to have to live with it because you choose to listen to us yep but for those of you that aren't watching this live this is one of our live stream episodes so we have our members in here so they can comment along as we go and ask questions at the end so if you would like to join our next live stream make sure you sign up for

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complaining to say there's a lot going on but uh we're not here to talk about our lack of sleep we're here to talk about beverly hills it look it's not my favorite season but when i think about last season and how maddening it was with kyle in particular and people not really asking any questions It's not taking any shots at Kyle while she's going through everything. Just treading carefully, not giving the viewers what they want. That's the type of shit that we don't want to see, especially for as long of a season as Beverly Hills usually is. This season's a lot better.

And there's one thing in particular that I do want to say, and it has to do with Bose, that I'm not actually going to say. I think the phrase of newbie of the year, hold on. Oh, I said, okay. The phrase of newbie of the year is cursed. it's just it's cursed i don't want to call her that i'm going to say she is such a stark difference from the last two newbies that we've had on beverly hills and it is pleasant to watch her because

you can see how she operates she is so intuitive she's instinctive when she's talking to these women she's not really doing a whole lot in terms of you know backlash or anything like that she's still just compiling information but she's standing her ground and i love to see that because we get to know her as a person. We understand how she operates. And we're seeing her talk to everybody else. And it seems like she's got people coming to her as we see in this episode. Obviously, she just goes through surgery, but she has people coming to her. That's incredible for a newbie. So not calling her newbie of the year, because the last three times that we've done that, things go wrong. Let's just be honest. Maybe it's our fault. It could be our fault. So I'm just

going to leave it at that. That's where I am. Yeah, she's doing a really good job. And the way that she plays the game is commendable because she never puts herself in a bad spot she sets people up and then lets them talk like that's her thing and she said in episode one i'm a really good listener so this to read friendship makes sense it also makes sense for just listening and that's what's funny about this group is if you just sit there and don't say anything they will bury themselves as we see that i have a whole theory with the bow's stuff and i'll get into that when we get into this episode but i agree with everything you said including the jinx that we won't from here on out we won't do that but i agree with you we we're over for when the season goes on which is

unfortunate but we typically do it around now it's usually like the sixth or seventh episode we're like wow this is great is there a potential newbie of the year in the making and then we proclaim them as newbie of the year and then they yeah yeah so let's not do that one time let's not do it that's what it's called now it's called pulling a bronwyn because she was such a frontrunner and what a fall from grace. But let's get into this episode and we pick up at the Viper Room and my dumb ass wrote Venom Room in my notebook. But I'm also using Poppy's Notebook because I'm out of pages. So this is Poppy's Notebook.

It's her Capi Barra notebook. She loves Kathy Bearer's. So I'm using that because I lost my, or ran out of pages in my notebook. But yes, the Venom Room sounds dope. I would go to that place when I was 20-something. I wouldn't go now. It's probably too loud. But we're at the end of the conversation.

Shit escalated, obviously. And there's a lot of stuff being thrown back and forth between Kyle and Doreet. Now, you could say that Kyle escalated it when she raised her voice. The vein started popping. I don't think the volume matters so much with how mad they're getting at each other. I think that what you're seeing, and I think Sutton calls it out later perfectly, Kyle doesn't like when people stand up to her. I don't think she knows how to function when people stand up to her first.

jump is just to lash out and get loud. Doreet's whole thing is she's just done putting up with Kyle's shit. And I think that anybody that's watched a show for a while can understand where Kyle's coming from, or sorry, where Dorete is coming from. But what drives me nuts, because this whole thing has to do with the P.K. texting debacle, what drives me nuts is now she's saying things, like, and we talked about this last week, where she's like, if you don't want me to do that, I won't do it anymore. It's like, that's not the same thing as understanding why it's.

a problem. And that's my problem. Yeah. When every other woman at the table is sitting there saying, I would have a serious problem if you were doing that with my ex-husband, you would think that Kyle might look inward and say, wow, what would I do if somebody was texting Maricio? If Dorete was doing this, she would lose her shit. She wouldn't talk to Doreet, but she would be spewing, let's say, venom. She'd be spewing venom everywhere to any other person that she's talking to. And that's just how Kyle handles business. But now the Kyle's involved. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'll stop. I don't know why you're getting so mad at me. I love the Doreet this year.

We've seen her do it time and time again. She's completely undefeated in fights with Kyle so far. I know. And she, sometimes she provokes them. Sometimes she doesn't. It's been warranted every single time. So whether you agree with Doreet or not, you can watch that and say, holy shit, she is wiping the floor with Kyle.

Kyle has no comeback at all. She's got no leg to stand on. Everybody around everybody's just sitting around the table. It's like, what is going on? This is like a bizarre world where Doret standing up for her. going at Kyle. Kyle's speechless and she's got her vein popping out. And as soon as the vein pops out and Kyle tries to escalate it a little bit further, you point out the vein, that goes back seasons. And now all of a sudden Kyle is self-conscious about that. She's thinking

about it. We see it in the next scene. She's talking about it. It's all over the place. She has lost so many times. And this is the comeuppance that we wanted for years now. We wanted some accountability from Kyle. Did not expect it a million years that it would come at the hands of Doreet, but I'm here for it. I didn't either, especially from a Dereet that's so well spoken and pointed. I've said that everything every single week, I think, because

I'm expecting her to get derailed during these rants and she doesn't. And she even says things like the rules are changed now. Like everything's different and it is. And that's, I'm going to save a lot of it for later. I don't want to jump too far ahead. I will

say this. I didn't like what she said, but I'm glad Garcel is getting in the mix and she out of left field is like like I thought you're going to talk about PK by the way how are you doing and I was like why do you care now like you haven't cared about to read I saw some people some people were pointing out that last week Garcell had brought up to Dorit how everything was going or just said something casual about PK and to read actually answered her and they're like what's the problem this week it's like well she's fucking activated for one she was just screaming at Kyle and getting like raising her voice

Now she's in the thick of it. And now she has somebody who has seen her as an enemy. Garcel has seen Doreet as an enemy. Does not like Doreet. So it's not coming from a place of actual concern or trying to understand. It's just getting into the mix, which, look, we said it before. Garcel doesn't get in the mix enough. So I'm not going to condemn her for that.

But you can't not expect some sort of backlash to an activated woman who is going to bat right now. You're going to jump in and be like, by the way, how's everything going? How the fuck do you think it's going? Do you not see me screaming at somebody who used to be my best friend for texting my ex-husband or my separated husband or whatever you want to call them? You're going to ask me now how things are going. What is that timing? Yeah, not awesome. Not let me tell you.

Not great. They're not great. They've been better if you can't tell right now by my demeanor. But the reet leaves and ladies are talking and Bose chimes in and says, you know, maybe she needed to get all of this stuff out. Makes sense to me. That seems to track. Yeah, super fair. But the crazy thing is Sutton jumps in.

And this was what the weirdest thing to me was is the is the back and forth that Sutton does throughout this episode, that Carcel does throughout this episode as well. In this moment, it's like, Jesus, Dorit, settle the fuck down. Like Sutton's like, Kyle's been texting PK for years. Like Kyle doubles down and goes, you just don't know the relationship. Like Bose is just getting the information and giving you an unbiased. approach as to what this sounds like again pretty much everywhere the table has echoed if you were texting my husband while i was doing all of this i would have a problem with it so bo's is just stating the obvious but kyle's defense is we did this for eight years i would text bk memes it's

like that's fine when you guys are all cool at that moment like when you guys started this weird texting thing you and mo were still together dorit and p k were still together you guys and p k were still together you guys double dated you guys were all friends yeah okay fine you two text memes and shit great whatever could care less sure once the separations occur separations plural that's when the game changes that's when everything changes because now kyle is separated texting der reet's separated husband that's a pretty big problem that seems pretty inappropriate to me but she's dying on this hill of all we're doing is sending memes it's just memes it's not that big of a deal and that's really important to act but kyle's just acting like to read is

is insane and saying that the the context of the texts aren't damning so what does it matter in my head it doesn't matter what the text say the content of these texts is irrelevant because you text for now for now totally i didn't until it gets much much worse but it just baffles me that as she keeps talking about this whole thing i'm like at no point you don't see why this is problematic flip the script and everyone says that later you would be livid if dorrit was texting moe livid like it would be war war three yeah it's absolutely insane to me but i will say going back to sutton the thing with sutton is yes i don't understand the flip-flopping and garcel does it too but to a much less degree when sutton does it she can clap back and when she

claps back and it's really funny and it hits and it's something that we haven't seen it makes up for all of the the missteps that she has every single time because even in this conversation like yes she has it out for derit she's whatever she's offended or just burned away or whatever it might be from derit because derit doesn't want her to be like a shoulder to lean on and she's you know she immediately lashes out of her in the sprinter van on the first trip so there's a lot of bad blood there right now so you can kind of write that one off but sitting there and saying it's not like you're sending them nudes is fucking hilarious because it's so painfully awkward to somebody like Kyle who just has never had to put up with this shit, whether it's the producing, whether

it's the editing, whether it's Kyle just physically removing herself from conversations and just going nonverbal, whatever it might be, all of those things that she's done over the years to somehow evade any sort of criticism. Now she actually is facing the music. She's still stuck there while DeReed has stormed out and Sutton gets to have that little backlash in there. It's not like You're sending them nudes, right? Right. Right. Wouldn't that be weird?

Wouldn't that be weird? How about that? All right. Yeah. Cool. So Sutton makes up for it almost immediately. So if this is what we're going to get, and we're going to get great drama between Kyle and Doreet,

and Doreet's going to be able to stand her ground like this. And we've got Bose over here just clocking everybody at the table, understanding where they all come from. And we're going to get a little quips from Sutton. I'm okay. This is like a perfect dynamic right now. I agree. I think that while some of the things being,

said are confounding, if you will. The fact that we get this level of drama, I'm down for it. I'm down for these kinds of stupid fights. I'm down for people jumping in. I'm down for the side comments. I'm down for all of it. It's just confusing because it doesn't track throughout the entire episode.

But we move forward and we get to Sutton's house. Everyone's coming over for Country Club Day. They're doing a little tennis. And Sutton says at this country club, you can curse and you can drink. That's every country club on the planet, I believe.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but this, so it's just like every other country club. But Kyle and Sutton are chit-chatting before Garcel arrives and Kyle's still upset about the whole thing that happened, still can't see her side of it at all. She is 100% the victim in this whole thing. That's when Sutton points out, Kyle, you don't like when people stand up to you. That's what this is all about. And that's coming from personal experience because we remember when Sutton did this last

season, that's when we got the name-um scene. And again, that was a little wacky during that whole. thing. But that was Sutton standing her grounds of Kyle. Kyle does not know what to do when she's confronted because she's not used to being confronted until these last two years, really. This is much more of a confrontation that I think we've seen with her with somebody in the group because it's carrying on it's somebody that she's known for so long. But it's a great point. Like that's the root of this whole thing. I don't think she's capable of looking inward during all of this because she's so taken aback and not knowing how to play defense. So she's just going to go with, I didn't

do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. This isn't my problem. This is your problem. That's the vibe I get at least. Yeah, that's definitely the vibe that I get. And I also didn't care for Kyle walking in pretty much her first comment was, is there alcohol in this for the iced tea? It's like, fuck off. You're still going to try to push the whole Sutton is drinking constantly thing. That's how I took it. And that's any time that Kyle makes any sort of alcoholic comments, Sutton, I'm like, stop. She makes a lot of offhanded comments to her that just like belittle her. And like, she does that to a lot of people that she doesn't take seriously. You can tell who Kyle take seriously because of the way that she talks it's the offhanded little like it's a jab but

we're friends so it's funny ha ha but if she did that to you it would be a big problem i don't know the hypocrisy is starting to really get on my nerves but garcel arrives she's nursing a shoulder injury so she can't play tennis i don't believe that and she knows that later she wanted to be there to have a drink and look good yeah yeah i don't blame her yeah not at all but after tennis they sit down uh to a little bit of lunch And Kyle had called Mo from the day before. And Mo let her know, you know, P.K had a really hard time last night. And she's like, well, I can't be friends with them, not allowed to be friends with them. And Mo's like, oh, that's so stupid.

It's like, sure, if that's how you framed it, if that's what you said, that, yeah, that would sound pretty dumb. But that's not what's going on. You're not giving the full context here at all. But Garcell and Sutton both say to her, like, we kind of understand, like, this is a problem. This is a different situation than what you guys previously had. So the texting does seem problematic to us. I think the general sentiment from everybody watching on the show is, if this was my spouse, I would have an issue. But Kyle can't hear this thing at all.

And her biggest hang up is the implication that there's something nefarious going on, something dirty, like that they're banging, pretty much, is what they're sending nudes or getting sexual, something like that. So, yes. Yeah, but nobody's thinking that. I don't think. I don't think. No, but now. Kyle are doing anything. Nobody's going to think that until you give them a reason to think it because you keep talking yourself into a corner.

And this is just goes to show you where Kyle is. And again, you know, we've seen her do. so many evasive maneuvers to get out of things now all of a sudden she's groveling she's politicking showing up places like we would see her in this same scene but it would be sudden and garcel going to her house now she's going over to sutton's now she's going over we see it later with bows she's doing all of these things that are way outside of her comfort zone to try to get people on her side which is bizarre and it almost points to you're not going over to erika's you're not just sitting down with erika as you used to in the past.

You have no friends left on this cast. Even when you're going over to Garcel and Sutton, these are two people that will immediately look at you and be like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then have a full conversation about you as soon as you leave. Because Sutton and Garcel are tight. They're actually friends. They actually talk.

So the fact that Kyle shows up to country club day, not dressed in country club gear because she doesn't wear it, she's there for a reason. She's only there so that she can try to continue to gauge some sort of ideas as to how she can get out. of it or how she can just spin it and put it back on Doreet and you can't you just can't you need to just apologize for it say you're sorry and move on that's what you have to do you're going to end up digging yourself a bigger hole as we see well she is the queen of digging big holes like that's

that's what she does she just can't take the accountability but out of left field because again Kyle's the one that brings up infidelity sounds like well you had that and Kyle you could tell immediately this was a conversation that they had Sutton knows that Mo stepped out. Yep. And Kyle's face was 100%. What are you talking about with the big eyes like, dude, shut the fuck up. You're about to blow my cover.

And Garcell's like, oh, with like the, it goes to that cutscene of where. Social media like Instagram and whatever the fuck it was. That was Kyle again. That wasn't even Garcel to try to save her. Carl, Garcel sat there and let it happen. Oh, I thought Garcell pointed that part out. No. Kyle's like, yeah, they just showed it randomly.

And then Kyle was like, you talking about the social media post? It's like, okay. Yeah, sure. If that's what you want to talk about, I'm just trying to pull some sort of threat out to see what you're trying to tell us because I'm calling out infidelities. And we saw it at the reunion last year where Kyle had a full on breakdown crying about it, talking about and alluding to stories, rumors, potential infidelities. So it's like an unforgivable thing. And this is the problem with Kyle too. This is fair game for any housewife in any.

franchise, but it has never been fair game for Kyle. Now you're going through a separation and you're texting your ex-best friend's ex-husband, bizarre. So you're opening yourself up to all of this. You have to face this music. And people are getting stronger too. And I love to see it because now we've got Sutton just going full on unhinged, just making all these comments, making her very awkward. And she is opening herself up to so much more fire and she's going to have to face it. Or she's just going to have to apologize. It's amazing to me that she just hasn't apologize to try to put out the fire it would go away it would go dear reet would be so thrilled to have kyle back as a friend i think that if they if they were able to sit down and have a conversation

and just hash it out and kyle actually listened to daree and let her be long-winded and let her get everything out and then they apologized i think they would hug and the next day they'd be back to normal i don't think it would be that deep but i don't think that kyle's capable of that i truly don't the kyle that we've watched for season after season she's not going to do that so I don't think that this is going to be solved anytime soon. But Kyle's response to the infidelity thing is that's different. What's different? Sure.

What happened? Like, this was such a damning scene. She's like, well, now I understand. It's like, what? I don't know what was happening. But the underlying question, I think that we all have. And it's not really much of a question. I don't need proof to know that they talk about more than just sending memes.

I don't think that anybody thinks they're just sending memes. I think that that was just a convenient thing to say. But they ask her, like, is it just memes? And she's like, yeah, you know, it's just memes. No, it's not. Like, there's no fucking way that you guys are just sending like reels back and forth to each other, giggling and sending laughing face emojis. But what drives me nuts and she's done it time and time again when it comes to Doreet

and this whole thing is she puts the onus on her. If I don't know who this person is, I can't be friends with. that you said the same thing about Sutton when she lost her shit yep there is a common denominator here you are pushing people close to you to a point that they're lashing out and coming after you that is not who they are that's something inside of them that they have pent up for a while and finally it came out because of you but you don't get to say that because you don't recognize who they are because you pushed them to that point that you can't be friends with that it's like no you're the reason that they're like that.

You need to hear them out so you can make adjustments to yourself to stop doing this so that people stop getting pissed off at you. It doesn't make any goddamn sense. Are you explaining what self-awareness is because Kyle doesn't know what that is? Yeah, that's my bad. Yeah, no, that's on you. That's okay. But this is now probably like the fourth season.

Is this the fourth Beverly Hills season that we've covered? Third maybe? I think it's the fourth. Is it the fourth? Whatever with Beverly Hills. So we're still having this season. same conversation about we're still having the same conversation about Kyle that we've had since we started this show.

Nothing has changed. There's no self-awareness there. There's no accountability. It's just who it is. And we thought that maybe she would change a little, you know, having an empty nest. Your husband's living in a bachelor fuck pad over there with P.K. Probably led her couches. PK's definitely staying there.

Yeah, PK definitely lives there. That's what's going on. You should be looking for friends. You should be looking to open up and talk about it more. you were given a storyline granted it's through a very traumatic experience within your life but you're given a storyline to finally do something on this show and not just be kyle richards and just shut everything down you could do something and you're now going completely off the rails and being a completely different person and it is bizarre to watch it's just that's all it is yeah and i don't even know if it's a different person it's just you're seeing the two years in a row it's been like this and it's just it's hard to watch i don't understand what she's doing what her approach is what she's bringing to the show even anymore. If it's just deny, deny, deny, and get pissed off of people that are trying to check you. And no self-awareness, no accountability, no ability to, like, that's something I think that

everybody likes in these shows is to watch growth. Like, we like to watch growth. You see some fucked up stuff. Look at Erica Jane. She went through the Tom Girardi stuff. And now she's in her come-up era, redesigning her house via Martin Lawrence. Everybody wants me to say Martin Lawrence Ballard. I'm not going to do it.

You can argue she's not doing anything either. No, I agree. I agree. I'm just saying like you see too much of a comeback. Yeah, where we could use a little bit more from her. Absolutely. I agree with that.

But my point is it's like journeys to make different choices and different things in your life, but we've seen the same shit over and over again. I guess the hardest part for me is people are trying to push her into making a change, into like acknowledging something. And it's so in her face. And she still can't just say, you know what?

You're right. I'm sorry. Because the whole thing, even if you guys are texting and you tell her, hey, just to let you know, like we're still sending memes, is that cool with you? This is a very different story. But you didn't do that, which makes this 10 times worse because it's secret and it's slimy. But let's keep going. The chat is getting contentious and I love it. Oh, no.

Are people fighting with each other? It's Ryan. Oh, there we go. He said he thinks that it must be just go after Kyle Day. It's like she's basically Tammy Sue. Oh, my God. No, well, if Tamara and Kyle would stop being assholes, then no, we would stop going after them. Like, we don't do this for our health, Ryan.

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That's awesome. I just need some more. I like when Erica gets involved because she says funny shit, and we don't have that right now. She's playing the mediator with stuff, which is nice. I wouldn't even say that she's a mediator. because I would say she's definitely shading towards Doreet. And that's why we're getting this. So at least we do get the one-off scenes where Doreet is just having a one-on-one with somebody like Erica,

who's gone through it, who knows Kyle very well. She's not, she's being pretty careful when it comes to explaining, you know, how she feels about Kyle. But it's getting more out of Doree. And that is, you know, we saw that in the, in the Viper room where she's sitting there. And even Beau said, like, maybe she just needed to get everything out. We're still seeing a lot of scenes. This is Doreet. She's very long-winded.

We said that this could be an entire. see some treat just getting everything off of her chest. And I'm here for it because it's pointed and it's right and it makes a lot of sense to us. If it starts to spiral out of control, we're going to need people like Erica Jane to kind of rain her back in. So I guess she is serving a purpose. It's just when it comes down to what Erica's storyline is, it's like, okay, we've watched you rebuild your life for years now.

You're getting back, you know, you had the Vegas residency last year. Now you're doing furniture shopping and that's your storyline this year. It's like we need more from that way. We're talking about furniture for two weeks now. out for this furniture, which again, I know what it represents. And yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's great. I'm not taken away from the sentiment of the furniture.

But it takes away from the entertainment value. Yeah, I agree with that. But we do a little Doreet check-in. And Bose, Doreet, and Erica Jane had taken a little stroll through the hills of L.A. And the friendship between Doreet and Bose gets called into question again. Because Erica lets them know that people are asking about you guys being friends. I don't know why it's a problem. I don't, I said that from day one when Garcell was pissed off at the fact that Derreet was having a solo conversation with Bose at the end of the

table. It's like they're sitting across from each other or next to each other. That's what you do. You don't yell down the table. You talk to the people close to you. There just seems to be such a vendetta against Dorit because she's long-winded and slightly annoying that like the rest of the group can't fathom that anybody would be friends with her. I'm not entirely sure. It's almost like she'd like, when she became friends with Doreet, she got typecasted by the rest of the cast as, oh, you're a lot like Doreet. Maybe we don't have anything in common. And then there's a little bit of jealousy where it's like, well, when am I going to get my one-on-one time with Bose?

It's like, Doreet went and just started talking to her. And yeah, she did confess her entire life story to her and gave way too many details, but Bose was there for it. You can't help that. There's nothing you can do about that. But you could go over and just start talking to Bose. She's a very interesting woman. She has a lot to present. You could just sit there and just chat with her for a long time.

It is very funny to me that now everybody's like, oh, why are they friends? I don't get it. I didn't get a chance. It's like, well, she's a new cast member. Like, yeah, I mean, maybe you're used to these cast members coming out and trying way too hard and talking about esophaguses. Esophagy. Esophagy.

Esophagy. Yeah. Whatever you might be used to, that's not what Bose is. She's a real person that you can go have a conversation with and you'll be. probably have a lot in common with her as we find out later she's got a million best friends you could be one of them it's not just to read she's not claiming her territory yeah so i i don't really know what it is but i don't get the the jealousy and the judgment because now all of a sudden darit and bo's are friends it's like who cares talked a lot and derit talks a lot and she also lost

her best friend and she doesn't like sutton and garcell hates her so what do you want her to do yes she's going to talk to anybody like she's talking to erika jane and bows because they They will talk to her. And I think the thing that makes me the saddest when you really break it down, the REIT's going through a lot of shit, right? Like in her life, the housewives aside, her issues with the group aside, her own personal life, she was held up at gunpoint, robbed, separated. Her husband's an asshole who literally gets in a fight and leaves the country for weeks at a time,

leaving her and her two young children with her. That's a lot of shit. And the person that she thought she was closest with in Kyle is now claiming they were never even real friends. That's pretty heavy to try to deal with on your own. So she found something in Bose and Erica. Well, they'll sit and talk to her. And that's all people need when they're going through. You need an ear.

Somebody to talk to that's going to sympathize and empathize. That's all it is. And everyone's been out of shape about that. And I guess it's, I don't. I don't know if it's jealousy or they're just not used to Doreet being the one to make friends with the newcomers. I don't know, but it seems like such a non-issue. And Bose is the one that says it's just petty that everyone calling it out. Like, why are you friends of Dore?

It's just petty. People are allowed to form their own opinions about people. You have friends that I don't like. I'm sure I have friends that you don't like. That's okay. You don't have to cross. It just drives me nuts that this is a storyline. Don't cross streams, bro.

Don't cross streams, bro. Everybody knows the rules. but except for the year olds yeah that's that's a different story sortifies are different but the big question is what do you need from kyle to move on and i'm glad that somebody pointed it out and duret points it out it's like the whole thing just feels secretive i think that's the biggest problem with this texting it just feels sneaky and that's where the issues arise i don't believe for a second that dureate is questioning whether or not kyle and p. k are getting a little frisky i don't think anybody's thinking that i think you know what i mean

nobody's thinking that nobody wants to think that nobody wants to imagine that no i really don't stop saying that i'm going to i don't want to but that's not the problem it's the principle of the whole thing and to move forward pretty much she needs confirmation of what these texts are fair that's the least you could do okay fine you have nothing to hide you're texting her husband what are you saying it's memes great show me how simple is that if you're not being weird if you're actually telling the truth that there's just memes and smiley faces back and forth that's an easy thing to prove but she points it out as well if the tables were turned this would be a disaster of epic proportions kyle will be talking to everybody on the side pointing them at der reed telling them how

slimy she is for texting her husband when they're separated she doesn't even text me anymore she just text my husband like do you realize that you're texting her husband while they're separated as her friend on the sly how do you not recognize that that's a fucking

issue like it's just it hurts my brain yeah it's bizarre yeah but let's keep truck and we get to Bose and Keeley and Bose is headed in for fibroid surgery she's got fibroids on her uterus and she needs to get them removed and she's talking more about Keeley in their relationship.

They would like to have a kid. And she's 47, I believe she said, and Keeley's 48. So if it's going to happen, it needs to happen sooner than later. So she's going to get the fibroids removed in hopes that they'll be able to conceive. And she's also nervous that if she's incapable, what that would mean for her relationship with Keeley. So some pretty heavy shit. And, you know, what I appreciate with Bose, obviously in the scenes with other housewife, she's doing a great job.

but she's been very open throughout this whole process she's she's shared with us actually we get to know her and i think that's something that we've missed from some newcomers especially on this show like when ann marie came on you know she who must not be named we didn't get a whole lot of that and a lot of that was because marcellus wiley was accused of something really bad so we weren't really able to dig deeper into her life but yeah but that was also like we knew that that was just going to be like some sort of bravo industry plant where she was just there to give kyle some sort of support and she did not even do that she just didn't do anything and that's really what it was so i'm even going to put her that's why i don't want to compare her because she's just bo's is just head and

shoulders over everybody else she's just so good at this for not knowing the game not understanding how these shows work just coming right in being herself it's incredible because she's bringing it in every scene and this was probably her best episode because she was in so much of it she was like a focal point And this is a Doreet and Kyle issue. And we're coming away with the most screen time from Bose who went into surgery in this episode. I know. That shows you how important she is and how integral she is to this so far in the season. It's incredible that she's been able to do it.

No, she's done a great job. She really has. We can't say enough about it. But we get to the post surgery and Kyle comes over to chat with her. And the funniest part about this, about Sutton's interaction with her, about Garcelli, interaction later is everybody's so concerned that other people are painting them in a bad light. I need to go talk to Bose one-on-one so she gets the right idea about me. Nobody's doing anything to make her form her opinion about you except for your own individual

selves. Okay. Sutton, love you, but you're the reason that she has an opinion about you. Yeah. Because you acted a certain way in the first time you saw after the, she watched you weaponized to read's pain. Then the first thing you did after that, the first time you saw Bose will say, don't weaponize me. That's a weird thing to say. That was a weird interaction that you two had. And Bose does what she does. And she asks some questions and just let Sutton talk. Then she goes to the confessional and says, I don't know if I trust this woman. I don't know if I like her. She seemed that she may be kind of nuts. That was Sutton's doing. Right. In this scene, Kyle's concerned because Bose and Derreed her friends. She's going over there for damage control. She's not going

over there to check on her after surgery and Bose knows that. She was the one to go. Did you see all the flowers? Everybody else had been there. Now, obviously Garcel goes at the end of the episode. Now, look, I don't want to see Sutton and Bose have a one-on-one scene this season. That ship has sailed. It's going to be painfully awkward.

Sutton's going to say something fucking ridiculous and stupid, and it's just going to bury her even more. You just need to just take it for what it is. And look, I think that she just identifies, like, all right, you're a friend of Doreet. Doreet fucking hates me right now. Maybe that'll turn around. But I just need to,

let it lie. Hopefully she realizes that because I don't need a one-on-one scene with Bose and Sutton at all this season. Give that. That's not her strong suit. Our strong suit is not. Unless it's with Garcell are not a strong suit of Sutton. So just let even that. I meant like reading the room and not doing that because she she doesn't like when people don't like her. And then it turns into a what we saw last week where it's like, don't weaponize me. It's like, what are you doing? What the fuck you're talking about? Why would you say that? That is not the word to use. Just shut up. But I do love that these two scenes when it comes to Kyle and you can you can juxtapose it. We got another juxtaposition.

Juxtapose it to Garcells at the end. They're weirdly different. This is two one-on-one scenes that haven't happened yet. You're going to Bose. Yeah, I know she just got surgery, but you're groveling, both of you, in different ways. You can still be yourself. We know immediately what Kyle is there to do. She's there to politic.

She's there to start getting into Bose's ear. Unfortunately, Kyle, Bose is a lot smarter than you. And she's a better person and she's friends with Doree. Those are things that you are not right now. And maybe you've never been those things. But not right now for sure. No, not even remotely. And Bose is immediately skeptical of Kyle and her reasoning and her motives and why she's there.

And they start talking about the Viper Room. And again, Kyle's on this. It's implying scandalous behavior thing. And it's like, you're doing that. I think everyone else is just saying this is fucking weird. You're the one that's implying scandal. analyst behavior again just from the the visual test here no one thinks that you're banging pk okay you can put that one to bet i promise you nobody's thinking that they're just wondering

why you thought this is appropriate to text him on the slide but Bose gives her speech about having lots of best friends which i also thought was almost a move to say to Kyle like yeah you know i see what you're doing but like i got plenty of friends like this isn't going to go the way you think it's going to go. But she says some of those friendships are different. Like I have this one friend that thinks that we are number ones, BFFs forever. And she will text me nasty things, which is fucking weird also when she sees me out to lunch with other people. It's like that seems like a weird friend. Maybe you don't need that person as a friend, but that's not for me to say. And she says to her, maybe that's who you are to Dereet. And she's like, yeah, I probably am. But, you know,

close friends, it's a lot more than just being friends. And you should. And I have a lot of them, by the way. And I have a lot of them. Yeah, just ask. Is that a Trumpism? What the hell is that? Yeah. By the way, let's talk about close friends.

I have a lot of them. I've got way more than everybody else. I've got a billion friends. Everybody knows it. No. It's more so like, I think that was her competing with Bose for a minute. She was like, well, I have friends too. I have lots friends.

Keshe's my friend. Keshe's your friend. I was so strange. But she goes for the real friends, share things, argument. Yeah. And even Bose is like, well, you're claiming Doreet doesn't share things with you. She shared her entire life story with me in the first 10 seconds. So I don't believe that for a minute.

And we even get a montage of Doreet sharing things with Kyle, very intimate things. Thank God. Yeah, I know because there's plenty of evidence. And she's like, P.K. left for London. I'm not sure things are working out. Kyle echoes the sentiment. Things with Mo are a little shaky. It's like, oh, sounds you guys are sharing some pretty personal shit with your close friend.

That's what it looks like to me. call me nuts but you can tell that this is not going the way that kyle wanted it to go and that's the best part and that's like the magic of beaux is that she doesn't really do a lot but she's doing a lot like she's just planting seeds she's posing questions and putting things out there and letting kyle respond to her but kyle's responses are the things that are getting kyle in trouble because she's like, well, maybe manipulative people do that to manipulate other people. And I was like, what? I was like,

now you're just going off the fucking rails. This doesn't even make any sense. And the worst thing you could have done is to try to one up her and be like, well, all right, fine. She wants to play this and she pulls out the picture of Kyle Moe and Doreet hugging.

Let's get some context here, because you didn't explain that to Bose, who probably doesn't know what that picture is from. That was the night that P.K. returned from London because I probably got in a fight and he didn't want to see his kids, so he just got back from London, asshole. And that's

the night that they are all decompressing over the home invasion where Doreet was held at gunpoint. Everyone is a ball of emotions. I can't imagine what that scene felt like. So it's a group hug. I think that we all did the same thing when we saw Doreet kind of like hold Mose back and kiss

him on the back of the shoulder. We're like, weird. But given the circumstances, let's not dig into this one. Because there's problems not more there. It's very intriguing that now Kyle wants to talk about rumors and stories and all the things that are out there. But when Sutton calls you out for infidelities and there's rumors and stories and all the things out there, you talk about the social media thing that you talked about with Eagle Woman. That's what you talk about.

Don't forget Eagle Woman. Shout out Eagle Woman. Shout out Eagle Woman. We love her. Who's her assistant? Dude, Bluebird. No, damn it. Blue Raven.

Blue Raven. Yeah. Wow. Good. Nice job. Well done. But either way, yeah. It only, it benefits Kyle now. And this is what happens with Kyle. She uses things that benefit her. But if the same thing comes down the road and it has to do with Kyle, she's going to jump out of the way. No, no, no, no, I can't do anything with that. You can't bring up something and you had that picture on your phone ready to go. So that means that Kyle's driving over to Bose's. And she's trying to imagine how this conversation is going to go. If it goes one way and Bose still seems like she's on Doreen. side and she's not really hearing me out because I'm telling the truth here, I'm going to pull out this picture and that's going to change everything. No, Kyle, that makes you look like an asshole. You're compiling evidence. You're bringing up tabloid shit from a night that the night after Doreat's home was broken into when her husband was in London and he got home. And you're all decompressing and you're all good friends because you're all sending memes to each other. You're comforting somebody who just went through a traumatic event. But yeah, I'm going to bring this up and show it in the tabloids because fucking dumbass. is on Twitter, we're like, oh, is there something going on here? No, there's nothing going on there.

There never was anything going on there. And the fact that Kyle is bringing that up as evidence is laughable. It has nothing to do with what she's doing. No, because nobody's accusing you of trying to hook up with P.K. They're accusing you of being a shitty friend. Yes, that's good. You shouldn't be talking to him. It makes no sense.

It was such a Hail Mary that was intercepted and ran back for a pick six. Like it wasn't even remotely a good example. Bose doesn't know what's going on. She just sees it as you trying to play defense and trying to do damage control. Bose isn't stupid. Like she recognizes everything that's going on right here. And that's, again, goes back to what I said, all these women that are like, I need to get in Beau's ear to make sure that people aren't giving me a bad reputation.

It's like you're doing it on your own. She's not an idiot. She can sit back and let you do your thing. She's very good at this. She does it to Garcell later too. She just sets them up and then sits back. then she forms an opinion, but everyone is so quick to be like, I got to get to Bose before Doreet gets back to her again.

The funny thing is, watch Doreet scenes with her. Who does Doree talk about herself until Kyle got involved? And now that's a conversation. But the original conversations between Bose and Doreet were about what was going on in Dorete's life. And Bose recognizes, shit, this woman's going through a lot. She doesn't have any fucking friends because her best friend hates her and her best friend seems like an asshole. I'm going to give her a shoulder to cry on. And you know what came from that, but actual friendship.

So now when shit pops off, she's going to listen to what Doreet has to say about Kyle. And given this interaction with Kyle, she's going to believe what Doreet has to say now because she's like, well, I've seen that side of Kyle that you're talking about. She's trying to manipulate me. Fuck that. What's going on with you too? So it just dug her a much deeper hole with the most outlandish evidence you could have used to try to support your argument. But we get the Sutton, Garcel and Kyle once again. And I actually, this was sweet, that they finally get together to have a pizza party for Erica Jane.

I thought they were going to go to Domino's. Oh, God damn it. That would have at least tied your whole theory together. It was so, you have no idea how excited I was. And I tried to contain myself too. I wanted to text you. But I saw somebody on Twitter because, again, we watch these on Peacock. We don't watch them live.

But somebody on Twitter said something about pizza party and Domino's. And I got so excited. Just amped up. I was even on the way there when they're in the fucking car on the way there I was pumped I was so ready for it just tie it all together Chuckie cheese

I knew it was gonna be I was excited for Chuckie cheese then they revealed it I was like fuck yeah Chuckie cheese I was hoping to have like a Kiki mom with you like hell yeah Chuck cheese I mean I love Chuck cheese Charles Entertainment Cheese I love Chuck and cheese even know his legal name that's good good for you yeah we're putting it out there

put his government out there yeah he has a Docs Chuckie It doesn't pay taxes, that's for sure. That rat, definitely not. But I always thought that the Chucky Cheese pizza was like the closest thing, at least growing up, was the closest thing that you could get to the goofy movie pizza with that cheese. Yeah, with the big pole. Oh, the cheese pole. That lives rent free in my brain, dude.

That cheese pole, the best pizza ever made was a goofy movie. And you can't tell me otherwise. That's the most delicious looking pizza ever. I agree with that. I think that what Chucky cheese does. so well with their pizzas. Okay. It's like one of those trash pizzas that when you're in the mood for it and you get it,

it hits harder than like a New York slice. Like, Elyos in the freezer when you're really hammered and you're like, holy shit. And you burn the roof your mouth. Yeah. Fuck, yeah. Like, that's the Chuck Echise life.

I don't, I just get hungry. Just crushing Eelios. But yeah, dude, Chuckie cheese pizza is awesome. What I was concerned about was that you have four. housewives filming in a place for children i was like this could go south pretty quickly the other thing about chucky cheese at least in florida as they serve beer and we would just

get smoked on uh still i i heard a lot of stories there were a lot of fights and stuff didn't somebody fight the mascot yes somebody fought the mascot in florida yeah they did they stopped yeah and that's when i stopped drinking um there you go fuck chucky i punched him right the little story. You guys want another story? I got one for you. It was one time me and Chuckie squared off. No,

no. But yeah, I, there's a special place in my heart for Chuckie cheese pizza. And the last thing I'll say is their sausage pizza because they got the little tiny sausages.

Yeah, little nuggets. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. Croupled sausage on pizza is so much better than anything else. Right? I'm so hungry right now.

God damn it. I just ate dinner. I just ate dinner. Shut up for Anzones. Yeah. There you go. Why are you naming pizza places? Stop it.

Shut up. You assaulted Charles? I'm not allowed to speak about it. And I'm also not allowed back to Chuck your cheese. Don't worry about it. But anyway, we sit down for some pizza and Sutton actually gives Erica her flour. She's like, look, watching you over these past couple of years, get back on your feet, really inspiring, good for you.

I'm proud of you, all those things. Which is nice to, it's a bit forced. But here's the thing with Sutton. It would do her a lot of favor. And again, we love Sutton. It would do her a lot of favors to take this approach and just force niceties and go over the top and just stop there. Just be super duper nice. Kumbaya.

That's it. Sisterhood. But stop there. You know what I mean? The problem comes in when she tries to explain what she's saying. And then it takes a left turn. And then she ends up insulting somebody and then yelling. That's the problem.

So this was perfect. Over the top, for sure. Who cares? it was nice and that's fine but Jesus Ryan really hates Sutton apparently he does yeah what else is new yeah yeah whatever I don't have time for you tonight Ryan I don't have time for it but it goes kind of around the table

like everyone's getting their their moment where it's like you know it's it's good for for the kids to see this from you Sutton you know you're focused on your business now that's great like good for you and Kyle it's good to see that you know your kids are going to see you protect yourself And she's like, well, you know, I don't know they said they'd be crushed. They just saw me like curled up in bed and crying. Something's like, I did that.

And I was like, ooh, that's fine. If you need a good cry in bed, you take a good cry in bed. But she caught a little stray there unintentionally. Yep. But Garcel points out the lack of boundaries between Garcel or sorry, Garcel points out the lack of boundaries between Kyle and Mo thus far. They're still working through their separation. When it comes to that stuff, like that's a different thing.

they're trying to figure out whatever the fuck they're trying to figure out i'm sure as it goes forward they'll create more boundaries or they'll get back together i i truly don't know where kyle and mo are going to end up they're not going to tell us yeah no they're not giving us updates no we have no idea except these like phone calls where it's like look at you all cowboyed up my little cowgirl hey yeah i'm like that's flirty what's going on with you guys but was not expecting this at all and i'm so glad that it happened because garcels talking to kyle and she's like you know what god damn it she's like you do what you want to do you be who you want to be if you want to be a lesbian be a lesbian and i was like oh incredible yes she's yeah that was perfect

and that when people were getting mad at us for saying we wanted more to garcel we missed this and erika goes to a confessional and confirms this is what garcel does best she will ask the question she will say what's on everyone's mind that everyone else is afraid to say and this was the perfect example of that everybody's thought this since Morgan Wade came on the scene we don't give a shit

I'm sure you gotta work through some things figure out what you want to do with your life which way you're going but no one cares if you want to be a lesbian and I'm so glad Garcell's like look we're getting older who gives a fuck we're all bosses we all have money live your goddamn life

it was incredibly empowering and look I don't think that anybody felt like they were in a position last year to say that to Kyle because Kyle was so close off about everything now it seems like you know obviously she's going through it with Dorete but she seems a little more open and she'll she's a little more vulnerable she's showing up to events like this and not just closing off completely so hey let's have a little empowerment moment Kyle you can do whatever the fuck you want who cares what people are going to say I like that Kyle's immediate reaction is like okay and then she smiles and like takes a bite of the pizza it's like I wasn't

expecting that no one was but it's awesome it's such it's such a great line i think everybody probably had the same reaction everybody was crying laughing or just saying hell you out of the tv except this guy right here i'm going to show it oh jesus christ ryan thought it was corny well i don't know how to make you happy ryan if you didn't like that moment i don't know what to tell you dude that was that was gold that was absolute gold god ryan he's a tough critic man but yep hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. This fall get double points on every qualified stay. Life's the trip. Make the most of it

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nobody is inappropriate it is inappropriate but not for the reasons that you're saying yes yes and she's so stuck on that that that the only time i'm questioning it is when kyle's talking i'm like well is it are you guys sending nudes like what's with the secrecy with this whole thing that's the biggest red flag and she's like i'm an adult i'm not going to show my phone that's a fucking joke. What's a fucking joke if you're an adult is not recognizing why this is bad, why this is inappropriate and also if you

can solve this whole thing by just showing the text then we don't have an issue. But she quickly reveals why she can't show the text because she's like, I can't believe this is the one she picked. Why would she not scroll up to a meme and be like, look, this is all we do.

Because she screenshotsed it. Why would she screenshot this one? I don't know. It was, it's the dumbest move of all time. It was so fucking, it opened so many goddamn doors. She took a screenshot of it thinking, this is going to exonerate me. You want to see what I'm saying. I'm being supportive to my friend. No, that is exactly what you're being accused of. You're being supportive to your friend's ex, your friend's separated husbands. It's completely inappropriate. Take a screenshot of the memes. Sure, whatever. But not a screenshot of that.

Talking about how you're not going to say anything that's been disclosed. You're not going to talk to anybody. And I know what you mean. I understand that you're talking about if the media comes a knockin and they want to get some words out of Kyle Richards about what's going on over there, you're going to keep your mouth shut. Fine, whatever. But that's probably not all that you mean. It's just not because it said never repeated anything you shared with me and never would, which means you guys are discussing things about to read in their marriage. You're trying to exonerate yourself and you just gave them the biggest piece of evidence. That's probably the worst text in the whole thread that you could have picked it was so maybe it's not though

that's the other thing that's the other flip side of this maybe there's worse shit up there maybe it is them actually commiserating with each other about their separations we thought that maybe it would bring derit and kyle closer together now obviously we've seen clips of the season before this so we knew that they were going to be at odds but we thought that maybe yeah you guys could bond over this you guys can get through it together you can talk and lean on each other's shoulders and go through it instead you're doing it with pk you're not talking to dureate you iced her out completely after the reunion but you're talking to pk about his separation and talking to him about how to get through it is there worse shit up there if this is what you chose the screenshot is it memes memes memes

i cried for hours today don't worry pk i cried too and then they send pictures of each other crying and then they send like emojis of each other hugging like what is going on up there i don't know this was so much more damning than even what i thought i was going to see on the text i was like oh shit and the other part is everybody at the table is already on the fence of whether or not they're cool right they all agree that this is a step too far that you shouldn't be texting her husband that it's inappropriate the last thread of hope that they have is that you are just sending memes like okay at least it is just memes maybe the uh a cat hanging from a clothes line saying hang in there buddy hang in there bell it's just crazy i was like that's the one

you choose what the hell is the matter with you but Bose and Garcell finish this episode out and again you get somebody going to Bose to make sure that there's not a negative opinion being given to her from somebody else because as we know of her daughter's wedding on this the day might you come to my house much godfather energy incredible godfather energy this whole time is great it was yeah the way that she's sitting on the couch in the back when they like flashed back there oh yeah like she was just sitting and waiting like yeah come come on in take a seat come talk to bows i'm gonna sit

and say nothing and you're going to do the work for me and i don't understand this move from anybody ever if i know that you're friends with somebody right if i'm well aware that you are friends with a person i'm not going to walk up to you and immediately insult that person if i'm trying to have a good conversation with you you would think you would think Because the first thing she does after asking how surgery went, how you're feeling is go, Doreet is an embryo up your uterus. Why?

Because they're friends. Yeah, just nowhere with all. Again, this just goes to show you. I think that they obviously feel some type of way about Doreet, all of these people that are going over to talk to Bose, and they don't understand their friendship. They just cannot wrap their heads around it.

They're just assuming that Doret is going to Bose because she showed her some niceties. And now she's just talking her. ear off. And maybe if I go over there as Garcel, I can sit down and chat with her and I can find out how she actually feels. It was a swing and a miss. Just an unbelievable swing and a miss. But this is the difference. And I talked about this earlier with the Kyle scene where Kyle had the one-on-one with Bose. It just had a completely different feel where yes, Darcell is going over there to talk to Bose. And yeah, she's going to make some comments about DeRate because she doesn't

like Doree. But she's going to stick to her guns. She doesn't care if people know that she doesn't like Dorete. She's just going to say it out there. And then she can still have a full conversation. And she can actually have a conversation with Bose, whereas Kyle was just blasting her. It was completely one-sided. Bowes was giving one-word answers and just reactionary shots, whatever she was doing. She was not on board with any of that. This can be a much better conversation because Bose does want to know the T. At the end of the day, she wants to know what's going on. And Garsell can deliver that. Now, the difference is, where is Boe's going to stand at the end of this conversation? Because it seems like she just throws it right back. But it just

had a completely different feel. And I appreciated it because we're getting more. No, I agree with that too. And I think that Garcel, because again, Garcel's very smart. And I think that she realized after she made that statement, she was like, fuck, I missed, I missed on that one because she tries to realize it. And she's like, look, I just feel like with the read, it's like we take two steps forward and three steps back.

Okay, fine. Why do you think that is? What's your reasons? This is why Bose is great. She's like, okay, evidence now. You made a statement. Support it. Go.

And she's like, well, she talks a lot. And I'm like, eesh, that's not a good reason to hate somebody or come in here and try to break up a friendship because she talks a lot. You might have to do a little bit better than that. And that's when Bose does what I was thinking, what I talked about earlier, where she's like, you know, she's going through a lot of shit. And I'm like, thank you. I feel like nobody's giving any merit to the fact that Dorett's going through a hell

of a lot. They have all the sympathy in the world for Kyle. Everyone still wants to be Kyle Richard's friends. Durit's out on an island with Erica and Bose now. She needs fucking friends, man. That's all this whole thing's about it. She needs friends and somebody she thought was a friend instead of checking with her is checking with her husband. That's it. It's so goddamn simple. It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to realize what's going on. But she talks about Dorit and Kyle's journey and I think she found her way back into good graces at the end of this conversation at least i i do believe that there's a friendship here somewhere i don't think she buried herself nearly as bad as kyle did because she gives her more

finally she's like okay so here's what you don't know they were friends they were thick as thieves that she says and then you get the text what's the oh i'm such a fucking idiot yeah do this the only text that we're talking about jesus here we go but they get to the issue of the text and bose is shocked to hear this is what the text said but that's all the confirmation that she needs so again bose has done not a whole lot as far as pushing the narrative all she's done is ask questions yeah and then listen and let people talk themselves into a whole or reveal the whole story because now she knows Kyle came into my house and lied to my face.

I don't think she's going to take that well. I think that that's going to be a big nail in Kyle's coffins. She's like, okay, I got that. She lied. You need to tell her. You need to tell Doree. Who's going to tell her? You're going to tell her.

And I, she's clearly like, what was she, the chief? What officer? Marketing. Marketing. Yes, yes, she was a CF something, CM something. Because the way that she did that,

I was like, oh, I would tell her if you told me to tell her. I don't know why. But the way that she goes, you're going to tell her. I was like, she's going to tell her. You're right. She's absolutely going to tell her. She's definitely going to tell her because you just, the way that you just said that to her, you're going to tell her.

She's going to tell her. If you're going to be the one to come over here and show me that text or rather read it and paraphrase it, which Garcel did a pretty good job paraphrasing. Honestly, there's no better way to put that text. No, you're going to do it. If you're going to sit here and talk to me about it and you already swung and missed at what our friendship is and you know. where my allegiances lie, and they lie

with Doreet right now. I'm not going to tell her I wasn't there. It's not my business. You can come tell me. That was your decision. But now I know it, the clock is your choice. This is your choice. And look, if you don't do it in time, we're going to have to push it on her. And that's not going to be good for anybody.

You come into my house asking me for a favor on this, the day of my daughter's wedding. Here's how it's going to go. You're going to do it. It was fucking the chef's kiss. This was her best episode yet. She played it so well. Yeah. The whole thing. She's very good at the gameplay, like, in a very subtle way, which makes it even better. And you've watched now three housewives go to her to try to change her opinion about them. And all they've done is dig a deeper hole because she's not

going to get sweet. And she knows the minute you walk in for those, she knows why you're there. We all know why you're there, but Bose definitely knows why you're there. And she's, she's playing you. She's playing everybody. And it's so good. the only one she's not playing is Doreet because Doreet came to her and again talked about herself. Hey, this is what I'm going through. This is my life.

I need help. I'm struggling. And she resonated with that. She didn't come in talking shit like the rest of you. Imagine that. You know she's friends with Doreet. And the first thing you do is insult Doreet. What,

how do you think that's going to go? Whatever. Good episode. It was a good episode. I like, yeah. Very solid. It was solid.

But I, uh, yeah, we need to get to some questions. Now we got our members ready and waiting. So you guys, 10 second delay, but get those questions in. We will answer as many as you got for us. Ryan says that all I want to say is SLC was fired tonight.

I can't wait to watch it. And yeah, if you're looking forward to our recap of last weeks, it's gone. It's gone. Gone. Yeah, the file's gone. And we're both pretty fucking upset about it. It's a great episode. That's true story.

so uh from zoe are you a shoes on or shoes off household shoes off but not like you won't get crucified if you walk through the shoes on yeah there's not like mud outside or something but yeah pretty much shoes off if you're going to stay for a while shoes off if you're just kind of like passing by or there's a party yeah shoes on that yeah it's fine cleaning up later agreed from carmen nelson how many times did we see Kyle say I'm not going to pull out my phone and while literally pulling out her phone? Oh, that's a good point.

Every time she said it. Every time, yeah. I think the other times were to just gesture. It was, it was, um, prop work. I'm going to, you want to pull this thing out? Ah, got a good prop work. Good part, park. Good part park.

From Casey Wright, how many seasons before Bose gets centered diamond? I mean, if she continues at this rate, But you're running the risk of the jinks that we shall not name. Yep. We're not talking about it. Yeah, we don't need to, we don't need to talk about it. Can't answer your question. Sorry, Casey.

It's a jinks. Right. It's just what the fuck. We do it. No. We have no time. We have zero time. We're upset about it.

We'll try to tie some into our recap of tonight's episode, but we, we simply don't have time. It's very, we're bummed out that the episode got lost. We're not thrilled about this. The video's gone. The audio's gone. It's gone. I tried.

I downloaded software that's, that's probably like hacking all of my information to unearth and recover deleted files and I can't delete it now. I can't delete that app that I downloaded so I'm sure it's stealing my information. And here we are worried about TikTok. Yeah.

Candy fart. Maybe Garcel was still wearing her producer hat when talking with Bose. Oh, I don't know. I don't, I think that she just was a misjudged. Yeah, I think she misjudged what that conversation was going to be and what she was going to bring to it. I think she thought that, you know what?

We haven't had one on one time. Maybe we can bond a little bit. It's like, uh, you're a little late to the party here and you came out swinging and missed entirely. Yeah, that's what I think too. From Rachel Mickelis, if you were to have a pizza party anywhere, where would it be? Oof, other than Charles Entertainment, Jesus House. Yeah, but there's got to be like arcade games because that's the best.

Oh, mine, honestly. That just triggered it for me. If it's not Italy, because I, you know, I went on my sliced journey over there. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah, there's different. Did they have arcade games there? No.

In Italy, I would imagine they have an arcade game somewhere in Italy. Yeah. I cannot confirm. I didn't see one, but I would imagine in the entire country of Italy, I almost said state, the 52nd state. They're behind Greenland. It's 53rd. Oh, yeah. And Panama.

I forgot. We got a lot of states coming in. So, God. um i think i just got to complete dera oh dominics up in polka no you've have you been there have i taken you there i don't think so it's like right when you're on about oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like the old school arcades in the back yeah it's a solid spot decent pizza um yeah dominics up in blakesley if anyone knows that how about you um i don't know i it a big focus would probably be playing games um um

Dave and Buster's pizza's trash. It's actually a place that they put into the Willow Grove Mall that's pretty sick. They've got some pizza in there. Tilted something, tilted towers or something. It's great. I told you about it. You got to bring. Yeah, but it's also called that.

If my brother's in here, he'll just yell at me. Okay, good. Castle. Sure. Oh, wow. Brooke. Are you from Rana Santucci's? Good call.

from jr real is it just me or have p k and kyle hooked up she's being awfully defensive over text this episode has me wondering that's the funniest part i don't think so i don't think so i truly don't she's offended at the aspect that maybe or at the prospect that maybe they hooked up and that's why she's so upset about it yeah but but to this point the fact that this question's even being asked that's what kyle's doing she's she's causing for speculation because she keeps alluding to it. That's the problem. Let's see.

Abraham Asparza, do you think Erica's storyline will get past her furniture journey? I hope so that she needs to do something else. Like we're literally like break it down that way. For two weeks now we've been talking about furniture. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't know what a storyline for Erica looks like anymore because we've gone through the divorce thing we went through the earrings we went through the vegas residency i don't know how much more she has to offer like getting a new house but like i don't know

i just love an erika jane um like love interest like getting back in the dating pool would be that would be cool watch yeah i'd be into that you know because i remember when sutton was doing dates that was a blast to watch i'm down for that yeah let's see we'll do two more have two more to go. Oh, Beth. Beth, asked a good one. Do you think, Beth Sheehan,

do you think that their conversations were about Moe cheating? Yeah. Oh, P.K. and Kyle? P.K. and Kyle. Ooh. They might have some sort of conversation somewhere in there.

I think any more it's probably, I think it's literally, it's just support of the two of them going through it, which is hilarious. I don't think it's really any more nefarious than that, but. On Kyle's end, you know that there's,

There's something in the back of P.K.' Yeah, P.K. Just maybe, maybe if I say the right thing, maybe I'll have a chance. I just won't tell Mo about it. Oh, I was thinking maybe it's more about P.K.'s infidelities that Kyle's saying that she won't talk about. Oh. Yeah.

Probably. Maybe. Yeah. Gross. Let's see. We'll do one more if anyone has one. If not, this is a great point. J.R. We on behalf of all you, J.A. fans, you're welcome for the defense.

We love our Philly Bulldogs. They're great. We love the pipeline from Georgia. Keep it coming. Get well soon to Kobe. Yeah. Yeah, seriously. Very soon.

Oh, that was so. That's such a big loss. Dude, that sucks. Bonn, Zach Bonn, he's going to do it all. First team, all pro. Yeah, damn right. Defensive player of the year, he's going to get hosed. He's got better stats than Keekley did when he wanted, but hey, I'm not going to go there.

If his name was Roquan Smith, or if he was another big name, he was another watt, yeah, or if he was a watt, or if he was a watt, or Fred Warner, he would be getting it. But because no one knows who Zach Bonn is, you guys probably don't know who Zach Bonn is. He's getting hosed. But all right, that's all we got here for tonight. But to all of our beautiful members,

thank you so much for coming out and joining us for this. We will have another one up next week. We'll do a different show next week. But our options tonight were... Maybe Salt Lake Reunion? Yes. We'll see. Those are a little chaotic.

We'll have to see how the reunion goes. That's a good point. Yeah, because when we recap those, they get fucking insane because they don't stay on track. with anything. It's writing those down. Maybe we can do like a Southern charm or something like Monday or Tuesday night or something. I like that.

I like that. That's a good idea. But all right. Well, to all of our awesome members, thank you for coming out. We will see you's next week. And this episode, if you want to re-listen to it, I guess you can get it tomorrow. It'll be up. But go birds.

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