Bros & Shows - What in the Leg Lift?- RHOBH S12E09

Episode Date: July 8, 2022

In this episode we open with our fellow BravBros of Jersey and the calendar shoot that broke the internet. The Housewives of Jersey are switching up their loyalties… Then we discuss Rinna and her instagram problem before diving into some Southern Charm talk. Dubai is back as well (you may not have even noticed…) before Steel is forced to address some hard truths about Kyle and her behavior… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros, your favorite podcast from the Bros for everybody, for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Steele Russell, but today I am known only as Rooster, joined as always by Shooter Magouter, known always as Shooter McGueter. Shooter, how are we? Doing well, Rooster, and congratulations on the new nickname. You did well last week, so here we are.

Feels good. Yeah. But overall, feeling pretty good. Had a nice long weekend. Went down the shore, got a nice tan. Down to shore. Did you go down Wildwood? Down Wildwood.

Fuck yeah. Got some Sam's pizza, and we're ready to roll. Love it. Love it. I actually went down Wildwood, too. I was in North Wildwood. Actually, in Anglesey. We got a new location. That's fine. Still Wildwood. Yeah, still Wildwood. But yeah, it was a nice long weekend, got to take a little breather before we get back into our night job, our real focus these days. And that's the podcast. Yeah, men of the night, boys of the night. Yeah, and it feels good. I'll tell you what, we got lots of new listeners once again. So if you're new here, first and foremost,

thank you. We're thrilled to have you here. But go back and listen to episode one because we don't want you here now. We want you here later. When it's appropriate. Yeah. Work your way up to it. I like to be, uh, like to be binged. You know what I mean? I actually have been told by a few people that were very bingeable, which I never thought would be a compliment, but I like it. Yeah, it feels good. I mean, being told that you're bingeable and I had my girlfriend Colleen's cousin tell us or tell me that our voices are so soothing and nice that he listened to the first 10 to 15 minutes of the first episode and was in a trance didn't even listen to us just listen to our voices wow what a compliment yeah we could be like

the new like sleep arrangement like get Alexa play some broad bros oh you mean like we could be put on yeah it's like yoga playlist yeah it's like very spiritual and nice yeah we should read stories, like children's stories to, like, help people fall asleep. Yeah, we've got the voices for it, apparently. You know, I'll take it. Absolutely. But it was a great week, great Bravo week. Had a lot of shit popping off.

We had a lot of social media drama this week, which was, I always enjoy that because I'm flipping through my phone all the time anyway. So to get these updates without really asking for them is great. But before we even get to that, we had a bombshell on Fourth of July drop, and that was Denise Richards officially launched her only fans account? Well, we know it was coming, but it is also, for research purposes, of course. Oh, of course. It's nice to see, you know, it gives us a little more homework to do.

Yeah, yeah, we did a little bit of homework on Denise Richards. But she looks great. She really does, you know, good for her. I like that she's taking a stance to support her daughter's decision to join Onlyfans, and you know what, Denise Richards, she still has it. You know, you got to wonder, though, is it a stance, or is she trying to overshadow her daughter? Ooh.

Yeah, could be. What a, what a. Maybe it's a way to like, all right, let's navigate these people away from looking at my daughter. I'm looking at me. I like that. That's actually an interesting approach. Well, no matter what Charlie's pissed off. Charlie's, yeah.

Well, fuck Charlie, whatever. I mean, his outrage at the whole thing was asinine. I can't believe that he took his stance knowing what he's gone through and what he stood for previously. Like, we've already covered it, but, you know, take a seat. bell not only did we have denise richard's dropping bombs we had the boys of new jersey coming out oh yeah they're showing up and god damn they look good yeah that calendar shoot was awesome it was covered in baby oil all over the place you had uh joe benino in there rocking the baby oil yeah i don't know if he stole the show i think he stole the show and here's why you know that he could

not have been like fully comfortable in that moment like All of those other dudes, one, are taking steroids, and two, they work out constantly. Well, look at Evan. I mean, Evan's a fucking powerhouse. Evan's yoked. Yeah. I had no idea. And I think, you know what?

More credit to him because he doesn't just pop the shirt off all the time. You know, you got Joe Gorgas looking for an excuse to take a shirt off. Frank wears nothing but sleeveless shirts. Evan is more of like the classic dad uniform. He's got the underarmor shirt on. He's got the gym shorts on. just some sneakers and, like, very basic, and he's not flaunting it. And then I looked at the calendar shoot.

I was like, damn, that dude's ripped. Not only that, but the first picture that I saw was all of them together, like, posing up a storm in their baby oil. And I didn't even notice that Frank wasn't there. Like, I took my time and I was like, wow, look at these fucking guys. And then I looked at Joe. Joe had his phone, I guess, on FaceTime, tucked in his crotch, and it was Frank's face. That's what that was?

Yeah. I zoomed it. I checked it up. Homework. We do homework for everything. See, we research regardless of the topic. We want to make sure we're informed. But something tells me that is not the first time that Frank has been near Joe's crotch.

No, not at all. No, no shot. There's enough, like, ball talk all the time with Frank and Joe specifically. There's definitely not the first time you're right. He's infatuated with Frank's balls. Yep. But just staying with Jersey, we had a lot of shit. come out. Something was actually brought to my attention by an Instagram account called

the Bravo Bottoms. They DM'd me and asked me if I'd heard of the new alliances being formed with Jersey. And I guess there's a total mix-up with who is loyal to who, who's pallied around with who. We now have learned that Dolores is kind of out on Teresa. She's no longer a Teresa sympathizer. She's kind of calling her out on her bullshit. She's had it up to hear with her and thank the lord i'm so glad that somebody's finally taking a stance against this like everyone just you know follows teresa around because she is teresa judice and that seems to be you know she's the face of it and so they don't want to get on her bad side except for marge really the other one's kind of tread lightly so to have somebody that is an ogy somebody that demands a lot

of respect like dolores kind of take that stand i'm i'm thrilled Yeah, it is nice to see. And, I mean, it's a necessary shakeup because, as you said, things were getting a little stale with everybody just kind of following Teresa or like making excuses for no matter what her behavior was. And it was getting so tiring. But now, I mean, they needed that. They either needed Teresa to leave like you said before and then have these other women come into their own and maybe replace a couple. But this is better because we don't have to have that introductory phase with two or three new people. we get the same people just in different alliances.

I guess Teresa overall is kind of getting along with most people. I wonder how that's going to work with Marge, because Marge was at her neck all last year. And I don't, like, Marge Jr. does not seem like one to let it go. I mean, she tried her hardest during the reunion. She did. And Teresa was having none of it. So to turn around to this season and just be like, oh, I love Teresa again.

Now, the good thing is Dolores is a powerhouse of her own. Hold on. Before we get to that, I will say the post did say that Dolores is no longer hiding her friendship with Marge, which paints a picture that Teresa and Marge still may not be totally cool. I think Teresa is just kind of cool with everybody else, except Melissa. I think Melissa's on the aisle. It's kind of with everybody. She's just kind of in the background, which... That's a shame, too, because she, towards the end of last season, became a no longer a Teresa sympathizer. Like, she wasn't always there when Teresa needed her, which is, kind of what she was.

And I kind of was hoping that maybe, you know, Melissa would kind of team up with Marge. Now you get Dolores in the picture, that would be a good faction. I'd support that because you know you have Joe's somewhere in the background supporting his wife. He's not going to be one to just like flip sides and go to his sister. But I think overall it's definitely good. And I think Dolores is definitely a strong enough character that it'll be fine. Yeah.

And I guess she is allegedly taking sense. center stage this season. She's kind of the one that they're focused on, which I love that premise. I love that. Well, yeah, you get Frank and Yeah. I want all of the Frank and Dolores I can have

because I love those two together. I think they're great TV. I think they're captivating. They're funny. But I think that Dolores again, according to this post, is very much kind of off the rails. Like she's not taking shit from anybody.

Good. Yeah, no, I'm excited to see it. I think it was time for a mix-up, and maybe the producers recognize that, too. I don't know if this was. Well, yeah, I mean, there were stories about how Dolores wasn't even invited to Teresa's wedding, and the backstory was that she didn't have a date for the wedding, so she didn't want, Teresa didn't want Dolores to show up stag, but she would probably have brought Frank, so you've got to imagine that Frank was invited, so I don't really know how that whole thing fits into this. Sounds like a cop-out. Yeah, definitely a cop-out, but I mean, like I said, the show needed a shake-up. It sounds like it got the shake-up that it needed,

and I have high hopes for it. I'm looking forward to it, no. Honestly, and I wasn't because I was so sick of the fucking love bubble. I couldn't do another season of that, so I think we're going to deal with it early on, obviously because of the wedding's being filmed, and they're going to highlight that for probably at least two episodes. And then after that, we kind of get to see this new HBIC, Dolores Take Center

stage. So it'll be exciting to watch. I'm excited to cover it. That being said, sticking with the social media. Now on to Beverly Hills social media, Renna was on some shit this week. Oh, yeah. She was unhinged. She came at Dubai.

She did sort of like a snide backhand to Dubai with people coming at her and Beverly Hills in general. It's just saying like it's getting to the point where it's unwatchable, which I don't agree with. I think Beverly Hills is good this season. I think it is, too. And I don't, I wouldn't categorize it as unwatchable. Like, I would Dubai, because I think Dubai is just a snooze fest. But does Dubai deserve to be included in this? No.

I mean, Renna took offense to people saying that they didn't want to watch Beverly Hills anymore. So she said, you don't want to watch us. Go watch Dubai. Oh, wait, you're not going to do that. Yeah, pussies. Yeah. She called anybody pussies. But the, the good buy product from that is you get eye on the person that you need from Dubai to step in.

And she told Renan to go take her lips back to Africa. which is fucking hilarious. And thank God, Aion is in the picture because she just fucking brings it, dude. Like her comebacks and her clapbacks are so good. They're on point. And then you got Caroline Brooks like piggybacking and kind of making it less impactful because she goes in the comment section and then adds her two cents. It's like, you know what?

We didn't need that. Not only that, you now opened up the door for Rina to come back. And Rina arguably wins this exchange because she goes, this is the energy you need to bring. If you want people to like your show, bring this energy to the show. And you know what? She's right.

Yeah, and I don't think that would have happened if Caroline Brooks just stayed out of it. I think that she probably wouldn't have responded to Ion, left it at that, and it would have been good for Dubai because now you're like, ooh, who is this? Like, that was a funny comment.

Right. Let's watch Dubai. Instead, you get one of the more boring characters of Dubai chiming in, giving her two cents. I don't even know what she said, honestly. I think I read it and it just immediately went on my heads because it's so, like, low impact. that it brought Renna back in to have that final say and she won.

You know what? It's like when one of your buddies is getting into some shit with somebody or like you see somebody like talking shit to somebody and then you have that one random like in the background that is like just yelling over somebody's shoulder that's not tough enough to actually like step up to the plate and they're like, yeah, bitch, like in the back. Yeah, she didn't even like make her own post.

She commented on a Bravo story of Ion's post. Yeah. And it just honestly, it takes the umph. of it. Now it's like, all right, like that, it loses steam. So Renna ultimately wins that exchange, I think. She still looks terrible. I'm not giving her props here. I just think that she won that back and forth. And then, fast forward, this pissed me off a lot. She comes out and says, like, an apology. Like, she has an apology post. I thought it whiffed completely because she seemingly is using Lois's passing and her grieving as an excuse to, like,

Like, hey, if I came at you, if I was talking shit, like, I'm really going through it right now, and I'm sorry if you were on the receiving end of it. Like, you know what? I don't know if that's genuine. And if it's not, like, fuck you, because I just think it's really inappropriate to use a traumatic event like that to kind of fall back and be like, oh, sorry, I'm going through some shit right now. It's like, you can't post negative stuff for a whole entire week, come out an entire franchise,

and then backpedal. Yeah, and it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. it is because if you're a housewife on Bravo, like, yeah, obviously you want your show to do well, but you shouldn't put down another one of the franchises on your station because if everybody does well, everybody's eaten. You know what I mean? Like Ren is going to get more money in her contract next time if Dubai does really well because you have all this viewership, you get all these people checking in and they're going to watch everything. If you want to put down an entire franchise, that's going to screw you in the end. Like, yeah, you're going to be comfortable because

you're not going anywhere as long as you don't want to. But you don't really do that. And it didn't really make any sense. Like the timeline, we finally got a little bit of timeline in Beverly Hills with them doing like the Thanksgiving dinner and then Christmas decorations. So you're like, all right, this happened in November, December. That means lowest passed away, early November, late October. If she was apologizing saying, like, as the episode came out, I'm sorry for what I said to

Sutton, I was going through some shit, you know, I didn't really mean to. That's one thing. Like, in reference to the past. Yeah. But if you're doing it now, like, you just made these comments in the last week and, like, you weren't really on the episode last week because you had to go do Harry's terrible show, whatever the fuck it was, anthrax. And you weren't in it.

So, like, you're chomping at the bit to get some more screen time. Clearly, today she was tweeting during the entire show. Like, I'm back. Check out my shoes. Look at this. Look at that. Live tweeting the episode. Yeah.

And, like, you don't get that from the other housewives. They're like, are you guys excited for the show? overnight and then that's it. And then they might reply to a couple things. But Rin is like live tweeting herself on the screen and you're like, all right, you were getting ready to get back in. Clearly all week you were on edge. But this is seven, eight months passed. Like, yeah. And I mean, I'm not, obviously we're not here to say like how long you're supposed to agree for. Like everyone goes through a process. And that's not, we're not commenting on that. I think more to the point. And maybe, maybe like rewatching these episodes.

is now she's kind of seeing it again and it's like stirring up some shit if we're going to try to give her some kind of excuse here but to your point like you're seemingly processing it fairly well in the show you seem to be coming out on the other side or at least it appears that way and now you're going to use this like you said seven eight months later now that's the reason and now if it's because rewatching it's bringing up those feelings again okay okay fine but I think that it's a dangerous game to play to use that after you come after multiple people on Instagram over and over again and then apologize. I just, I don't know, but something you said, like, if she's eating, everybody's eating,

we actually got a review that said, Bravo is sportslike. And it really, really resonated with me because I think that might be the poll. Because it really is, when you think about it, all of these women are like, they're playing for contracts. They're trying to get re-signed. We have some interleague play. Now we've got, you know, Fadra showing up on Dubai.

We've got the X-wives club, which is almost like the G-League, like the minor leagues. Like you've got these different factions. And I was like, you know what? It really is sports. Like these are our athletes, the athletes of Bravo.

Yeah, it was pretty much like, like Kevin Durant tweeting constantly, like all these like hate messages to people who are giving him hate on Twitter. Like that's kind of what it felt like with, like you said, like the interleague battles and going back and forth and it's it is a lot like that where you're like this league man yeah this fucking league and i i i love that review just because i was like oh my

god maybe that's it that could be what pulled us like we relate to it we've grown up watching sports i've you know we've grown up in sports so without even knowing it it's like oh you know what we're watching our new athletes and that is the women of bravo makes a lot of sense to me. I fucking loved it. I think that was on the nose. That takes this, I think, I just want to touch briefly on, I didn't think Southern Charm was like crazy this week.

I still am not enjoying it. It's still pissing me off for all the reasons I went over last week. Like, the entitlements drive me nuts. Shep needs to walk off a bridge. Like, the moment where he's at the party and he looks up at an airplane and goes, take me with you. You're like, that's an airplane, guy. Like, if you fucking did that at a party, I would smack your drink out of your hand.

They'd get it together. What are you doing? You're fucking 30 years old. Shepp, you're 40 plus, bro. You know it's a goddamn airplane. But that is like, I know you just started watching it, but like, that is what Shep is. And they all, but they all like it. Ooh.

All the cast members. Like, you saw them, the way they responded to him doing that was positive and funny. It didn't. I see to me, it felt like, uh, Shepp, ha-ha. Like, I think they just go with it. They definitely like Shep, and they're fine with him. Fuck, Shep.

Because they've accepted what he is. But, I mean, Southern Charm is, you kind of see it. Like, Catherine wasn't really in the episode at all. We get her and Schleb in the beginning. Kind of. And Schleb. Kind of fighting it out, like duking it out here and there. And you got to take Caleb's side on that one.

100%, but I thought it was super interesting. I just assumed... If you're the mother of Caleb, and he's in that relationship, I would just assume that you'd be like, oh, my God, like, you need to get out of that. Well, she knows, and that's the thing is, and it, I mean, kind of weird when you really write it out, but it's bizarre. He said that his mom, I guess, Catherine grew up in the same neighborhood, and his mom kind of, like, took her in. So it was almost like another sister and her cousin. Yeah, the whole setup was weird. Made it very familiar and weird, but...

But then why, and that, why would the mom push that then? Well, I think the mom does love Catherine. She does, genuinely. Yeah, and if she does, and maybe, I mean, we only get bits and pieces of what Caleb is anyway. So, like, maybe he has his shortcomings to it. And mom's like, you know what, you guys will be good together. And she knows better. And that's fine if you have that dynamic where his mom can reach out to Catherine and be like,

what's going on and be completely unbiased and just be like, yeah, I know how my son is. this is what he does. I know how you are. This is what you do. So it could work out for them. I see it more like she seems to be taking Catherine's side. Catherine was a nightmare at her fucking party. Yeah,

yeah, she was. And her mom seems to be like, oh, you need to understand what she's going to. Like, look, we all know she's been through a ton of shit. Even I know that and I'm a rookie to Southern Charm. But that doesn't excuse her behavior,

nor should it make my man Schleb have to like put up with that shit. And then hear it from his mom like, hey, you need to give her another chance. Hey, you need to met. no no no no like if that was me i'm like you're get the fuck out of there yeah no you're right and the main part about this is at least for this episode was you got like three four minutes of katherine in the beginning then it kind of goes off and there wasn't a lot going on i mean you get the the austin and craig thing going on with naomi and like was craig lying about how many times

he's with naomi which you and i talked about last week we did and before we even get to that like one thing we didn't talk about last week and like I meant to and I'm pissed that I didn't bring it up the situation in which Austin and Paige and Craig are all in the same room and they're going over like the dynamic and Austin gets an attitude because he's a little bitch and he's like well did Craig tell you that he hooked up with Naomi like in Vegas and she's like yeah some friend you are it's like yeah what the fuck bro like there is code okay there is a bro code first second regardless of bro code that's your quote unquote best friend and you're gonna fucking throw him under the bus like that to his current

girlfriend yeah i feel like i austin feels scorned from craig because of Craig's current relationship and how Craig back channel treated him up in the hamptons which we you and i know deplore behavioral behavior by Austin as it was, regardless if he was going through the breakup of Madison at the time, he was a terrible person. Yes. So Craig didn't really have his back. It started with Winterhouse, didn't really have his back at all, didn't give him anything. So Austin was just feeling more and more scorned despite his behavior.

So him and Craig are completely at each other's necks in different ways. Austin's very upfront about it. Craig is more like shut down, maybe talk to my girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, other girls, other dudes about how Austin's kind of pissing me off. So that's like, they handle it differently. And I get why Austin would be kind of pissed off about that. I mean, I guess. But to me, that's not how I see it at all.

How I see it is Craig's growing up. Craig has a shit together. Craig has a business. Like, Austin is spinning his wheels. He's still doing the same shit. He's being a fucking child. He's pissed off that Craig is kind of like moving forward. and the way that Austin talks to Craig

and talks behind Craig's back and fucking throws him under the bus why would he waste his time trying to be his friend? Well, and to Austin's point, is Craig actually moving forward? Is he doing better? No, I don't think he is.

So he has, he's got a history. Him and Naomi broke up. He lied about passing the fucking bar to her face. Years ago. So what? He didn't change anything. And then he cheated.

He didn't, well, by the way, he has his fucking law degree now, pal. Well, whatever. No, that's not whatever. because that plays into the has he grown up he actually has his degree and he has his own firm but has he because he's clearly lying about hooking up with Naomi okay he hooked up with her in Vegas and then hooked up with her again when they got back to Charleston but he admitted that at least once no he didn't he did on the episode no he did not said twice he said once Naomi said twice and then when he

talks to Naomi said yeah it was two times page knows that yeah does page know that does he owe that to Austin? Why the fuck does Austin need to know how many times? Why is it his business and why is he going to get Ben out of shape about what the fuck he's doing? He just wants to find a chink in his armor to get like, aha. See, he told you so. So he has a leg up on him and it's fucking childish. That is true. That's kind of what their friendship has always been now. So it is, it's getting to a boiling point. Obviously, in the coming weeks we're going to get what looks like a wrestling match in the middle of the street, which will be fun. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't think that, And again, this is kind of my rule of thumb

with all these fucking shows. I don't give reality television people credit for anything that they do really because they all kind of have this thing about them where they think they're doing something great. And in reality, they're just kind of doing more of the same dumb shit. I mean, I get it's hard for me,

especially because you're like, I think you're going to see a different side of Austin on this show. And I've seen the same shit, if not worse, because now it takes center stage. and it just continually pisses me off watching him get pissed off like he's a fucking teenager at his friend Craig because Craig's seemingly doing better than him. That's how I see it. As a newcomer, unbiased, maybe slightly biased because I think Austin's a douche.

But I also think Craig has his duchy tendencies. I'm not saying he's scot-free. I'm just saying like for him to take issue and not want to be around certain people that drag him down, that makes fucking sense. He's getting older. He's got shit going on. Austin and Shep go to the same bar and talk the same shit all the fucking time. Yeah.

Well, and they're all kind of, in a way, moving in one direction, slower or faster than others. I mean, Austin seems, again, happy in his relationship that he's with now. I didn't think, like, when they were at Naomi's party and she said something to Naomi, I didn't think that that warranted a full-fledged, like, attack. by the other women, I thought she was just, she was actually calling them out on their shit, which is good, and that's what I want to see. I have two sides to this. Okay.

Well, the way that she called out, and it is Naomi's home, so it's kind of tough to put somebody on the spot like that, but she did say, like, all right, like, she extended an olive branch and you didn't apologize, you just said, I didn't want to be there. So why'd you come? And then Vanita got involved, which good for Vanilla. I mean, at the time, I was just like, all right, Benita, like, maybe stay out of this. I don't think Naomi needs your backup right now I think you guys can just brush it off

but the need is apology afterwards I thought was genuine I did too except what always makes me laugh when people get in certain situations and there's drama they have to announce like that ain't that's not me I love that yeah I'm not the one I'm not the one that like the drama this and that's

like you don't have to announce that if you just said none of you are the one so who the fuck is the one who's the one because you all do this shit but now you're not the all you have to say is hey I'm sorry that was out of line or hey we didn't mean to attack you, walk away. That shows me, okay, she doesn't like drama. Yeah.

If you have to point out that, hey, I'm not into the drama. That's not me. Yeah, it fucking is. Well, and also to Naomi's credit, when she got there, she got the cold shoulder real quick from Catherine. Like, I think Catherine expected her to almost come up and grovel at her feet. Like, oh, thank you for the invite. And, like, you have to understand from both sides.

Like, this is awkward. Isn't an olive branch? Yeah, for sure. But this is a tainted relationship. So it's going to be weird. So for her to then get all bitchy because the moment she walked in, she wasn't like, oh, thank you so much. Like, that's on her.

So I don't think that Olivia took that into account. Like, okay, that's not exactly how it played out. Well, that could also be on Austin because she's also dealing with faulty information. If it's on Austin, yes. So maybe not faulty information, but like I doubt that Austin had the time to even go through all of everybody's pasts and all that. Like, it's not like Olivia had a lot. But again, you're the new girl. Maybe if you're not on TV doing this, maybe you don't do that.

Maybe you kind of like, just kind of ride it out, have some fun with your boyfriend, go make some new friends. I think she wants to, what I took away from that moment, one, I agreed with you. I didn't mind her bringing it up, but I don't think that it was without an agenda. I think she's seeing an opportunity. I think she's trying to get involved. and I think she saw Naomi and she took it upon herself to be like, oh, I'm going to make a name for myself.

People are going to know me at the end of the season. That's what I took from it. This is my moment. Yeah, that could be true. But side note, what do you think happens in Jupiter Island? I don't know what I want to know so bad. Everybody's very, even Shep was hush, hush about it.

Yeah, he said we don't talk about it. Can't talk about it. He talks about fucking everything. I know. So I got to know what happens over there. Look, it has to be one of the, those creepy like Uber rich people

like culty where they all wear the same thing masks yeah like some creepy fucking masks like as close to getting to an orgy as possible yeah who knows they might have orgies yeah I really hope this is not like an Illuminati situation and they hear this and then we disappear because these people have the money to make that happen yeah listen we're doing pretty well in this podcast game

if we don't make another episode something happened to us yeah guys we're on the come up so if we disappear, go to Jupiter Island. Wherever the fuck it is. I don't even know where it is. I didn't look it up. I think if we Google it will be on some kind of list. Probably.

And they'll be like, who are these two? Like, definitely not rich people trying to find us. We'll get sent to work there for the rest of eternity, probably. No, thanks. Well, what happens in Jupiter Island stays in Jupiter, Ireland, unlike Vegas. Unlike that. Oh, nice time. Hey, oh.

Bravo. But yeah, so, well, hey, nice. I got some dirt. Okay. I got an insider scoop from an anonymous source that I will keep protected. All right. That went to college with Matool. Okay.

And we did some digging and had a little conversation just to kind of get a background like, hey, was this surprising to you that he cheated on Naomi? No, it was not surprising at all. I guess behind his back, everybody at college called him Matool, M-E-T-O-O-O-L. like he was a tool so like her friend ends up going out with matool in college and they went on the date i don't know the ins and outs but when it gets down to like he's trying to hook up she says no she's not into it he goes this isn't fair it's not yeah i mean that checks out that's not surprising at all but like what an asshole i don't know the guy i haven't had any experience with mattoole you can tell that he's an asshole well clearly it's not a stretch this isn't fair

My balls are so blue I can't believe that I paid for that dinner Yeah we went to Applebee's And we didn't have to get the two for 20 I let you get whatever you wanted And look at my balls They are a royal blue hue

Like what a douche Fuck Matoole I just wanted to get that out there on the air That's good To bring it on Matul You want some of this You want some of the bra bros We're ready for you pal

Yeah he doesn't belong to Jupiter Island No way No fucking chance He might I don't know He's pretty rich isn't he All right well again And if we disappear.

Look, first look at T-R-I-L and then look from a tool. Yeah. M-E-T-O-L. Suck it, bitch. So we had Dubai back on this week. I don't, do you know why they took a week off? Because it sucks. I agree.

I mean, it's floundering. The only answer I can come up with. There wasn't, yeah, my only guess is that, like, Southern Charm premiered last week. So maybe they didn't want to. overdo it but then this week they had the same lineup so it's like anything changed maybe they needed an extra week to edit some things because they realized that it sucks and they probably did like some viewership ratings to see who gets the most airtime versus who's actually watching and who interacts on social media that would be the smart play would probably be like all right

we had too many scenes with caroline brooks even though she had fager this week she's kind of a dud we had too many scenes with like Lisa and the goat or not enough of the goat rather so those things are oh you think they re-edited yeah yeah I think they fully I think they had like I think they have unlimited footage and they put together these episodes and then they realized oh shit we need to really nobody wants to watch Caroline talk to Sergio anymore we got it we got to axe the seven more smoothie scenes that I love this idea I think that you're right I think that maybe Caroline was taking center stage that was the original plan they're like oh this isn't working. She's not that fucking interesting at all. Oh, I like this. I like this a lot. But back to what

you just said, Fadra was on and dude, she needs to come back to Atlanta. I need more Fadra in my life. She's great. She's just great for TV overall, not just bravo, just the world of television. It was like the first time in this series, that opening scene with Fager, Caroline, and was it, is it Caroline's brother, Sean? Or is it her cousin, cousin? And the, and the first time. And the The three of them sitting at the table, like, just talking about, like, being black in Dubai, like, I was cackling at them, like, talking about it. Like, we're champions here. Like, sweeter the berry. And Strader's a very sweet of the juice.

And Pager says, I'm a chocolate berry. And I was like, fuck, I love you so much. Yeah. And then that, like, one-eyed cat comes up and they zoom in on the cat's balls. Jesus Christ. But it was funny. Like, it was a good time. It was like an organic scene.

And it was just hilarious to watch them. Because Fager brings the fucking heat. She knows how to do it and she's just delightful to watch. Then they get into sister wives and she's like, that sounds like a good gig. Yeah, somebody else cooks, I'll clean, which actually gave me a little bit of information about how the sister wives in Dubai work that it's legal if the husband can financially support all of them the same. They need to all have the same exact lifestyle, yeah.

That's awesome. Well, I'm going to go on a limb here and say that. Well, they also have to ask the first wife if they can marry the second wife. They have to get permission. Right. I mean, I'm sure there's like some other stipulation that comes up with like children and whatever. But it is again, the allure of like what happens in Dubai kind of shows its head again. Those are the things that I do want to know.

That's the interesting stuff. I'm done with the fucking like here's the second biggest mall in the world. Here's all of our designer shops. Here's like 75 Lamborghinis in a row on the road. Like I'm over it. I don't care. anymore. Totally.

Here's an indoor ski facility with, as Caroline said, the bunny slopes because I ski every fucking year. Fuck her. And you think I'm going to go on the bunny slopes inside? While it looked dumb, just fucking go ski. Yeah, look, it's a little hill for sure. But it is, it's in a mall. I mean, that's kind of cool.

And also, everybody's doing it. Just get on the fucking skis and ride down a couple of times and then be miserable at the bottom. Don't draw attention to yourself in a negative way because it's not a fun way. it's not like oh this is interesting she won't ski down the mountain it's more like oh look at this spoiled brat that won't ski up there because she's been to stad she's been all over the world skiing like okay fine whatever she fucking she just sucks and i gotta say this rooster hey i feel terrible for sergio i feel so bad for him such a sad surge episode my stance on him

has changed so much i still don't want to see him on a tv screen very often but like first of all, can we talk about the fact that he played professional soccer for fucking Rayal Madrid? Yeah, he was, um, he was Ronaldo's backup. He didn't play a lot, but like, he was still on the active roster for a couple of years, won a couple of champions league trophies, like won La Liga a couple times, and then decided to cut his football and career short so that he could go to California and study digital marketing.

So he has like a life. He's got things going on. He had a life. What the fuck is he doing with this pert? Like, she's terrible. She's evil to it. And I feel so bad for him because it's becoming pretty clear that the guy just wants a run-of-the-mill family life. He wants a kid.

He wants a loving wife. He just wants to live, like, very humbly. I mean, and that's with a really big grain of salt because you're in Dubai. Yeah. And they have all the money on the planet. But he just wants the simple things, like a kid and a fucking. wife that doesn't belittle him in front of everybody and like to the point where they're having dinner with ion they're trying to like clear the air and he's talking about children and first of

all knock on my man Sergio real quick Ion was talking about how she doesn't want to have another kid she doesn't want to do that to her body that's totally fine totally fair and surgery's like really She's like, yeah. Like, well, why? He's like, well, it hurts. He goes, it does? Are you, dude. Like, we had this two weeks ago where he didn't understand how surrogate works.

A surrogate works because he thought that she would be the genetic mother. Now he's doing this. You don't understand that having a child pushed out of your vagina is going to be unpleasant. Well, you know what we have to do is we have to look at the way that, the way that Europe breeds their soccer players. players they throw them into these schools where they're just playing soccer for eight hours a day probably not learning a lot about anatomy you don't have to know anatomy to know that pushing a human being out of your body is going to be a really really painful experience but after i got over that then i got sad for him again because he's like i've got one or two kids and stanberry's like no

we're having one and once we have that one it's your responsibility you take this child you get a nanny I'm wiping my hands of it. And it's even more upsetting because Ion's sitting there whose father walked out on her when she was younger and she's like, why, you're not ready to have a kid. I don't understand that. And like, you're talking to a person

that has a parent that just didn't want to be there anymore. So for you to say that in front of her, I thought Ion actually handled it really well because she didn't really get that upset about it. And she rightfully could have. And Stanberry's like, yep, nope, not my kid pretty much. Like, I'm going to have a surrogate, so she's not even carrying the baby.

And then once the surrogate has the child, like, no dealings with the child whatsoever. Like, that's fucking awful. Well, you know what? And this is the life that I want for Sergio now. It mirrors a life of a sort of housewife from Jersey. I want him to have a nice child with Caroline and then run off with the nanny, a la Tiki Barber and Tracy. Wow. You think that that's how it went down with them?

He's a professional soccer player. I think that- Professional football player. Go off with the nanny. Go have your nice life. Go back to fucking Spain. Get out of Dubai. And let Caroline rot away with no smoothies.

No more. Well, she has the smoothie. She gives them the smoothies. But something tells me that the tiki situation was not similar. I don't. No, probably not. I'm sure. He probably had like a loving wife that, you know, whatever.

Terrible guy. But. Yeah, I mean, I just want surgery to get the fuck out of this now. Like, I feel so bad. When she's talking about, like, their parents are coming in, she's never even met his parents before. And she's like, I don't want to sit with my parents or his parents for two nights. I'm going to do that on the wedding night.

And you get, like, Lisa looking over, who's just a fucking Stanberry, like, sometimes she hates her. Sometimes she, like, makes excuses for her. And they're all talking. They're like, well, you know, this is her second marriage. So I get it. It's like, no, she's being. a bitch she i mean they do say that but then when she doubles down triples down quadruples down she

keeps saying like no i didn't even want to get married no yeah everyone at the table in that moment's like sorry serge this stings like this has to hurt yeah poor guy he looked great in that uh that floral shirt and i thought he looked like an asshole but well regardless i do feel for him it's just sad man like he he has that like puppy dog look on his face where he just wants to be loved yeah Serge just wants love. Give him love, Stanberry. Or, you know what? If you're incapable and you're this heartless that you don't care about raising your child

or making sure that your man is at least like somewhat happy, let him find somebody else. And you can stay whatever the fuck you are. You guys don't have sex anyway. So like, what are you getting out of this? You just like to have a little man puppet that you can drag around and like talk shit about in front? almost like, it's almost like the Diana situation with Asher, like, except she seems to have some love for Asher, maybe, but she really loves her new baby.

Yeah. And like Diana for all, you know, she's a terrible person, but she loves her kids and she infinitely loves her new child. Then she's just like, we're going to have one kid, you take the kid and just go off and do whatever. I'm going to live my life. Yeah, fuck Stan Barry. Yeah, she fucking sucks.

and she sucks and the show sucks. So it's like, what are you going to do? I thought this was a slightly better episode, I guess. I don't know. I mean, we'll continue to watch it, but my hopes aren't very high. I do. I wish that Renna had tweeted at them before the season started. I think with that kind of fuel, maybe they'll, like, rethink their approach this year.

Because, like, even in the confessionals, dude, it's so forced. Like, they're trying to be catchy and come up with these, like, epic phrases that people remember. And you can tell every time they open their mouth, I'm like, ah, you wrote this down a week ago. And it falls short. Every time. That takes us to the meat and potatoes, the Beverly Hills of it, the Rob, huh, baby. Let me start by saying the lead up to this episode, I was fucking pumped. It was weird.

Like, there were so many, it got to the point where when I was on Twitter, I thought that I missed the episode. Yeah. Because I was, like, still in, like, a trance from coming back from the beach. I'm looking at, like, social media. And everybody's up in arms about all the shit going on. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I saw this. I saw, like, Lisa tweet out. I saw this, whatever.

But I didn't see, like, all of the fucking clips. And then I spent, like, 20 minutes watching these clips. And I'm like, I just released the damn episode at this point. Like, you just released. a third of the episode in various clips to get us ready for the episode that we're all going to watch anyway. Yeah, I know. So what are you doing?

Like, why are you, Bravo? What are you doing? I'm looking at you, Bravo. What are you doing? Let us watch the fucking episode. Yeah, bravo. You, Andy.

No, I totally agree. They let a lot of stuff air out early. And that's why I think I got so excited. I was like, wow, if they're showing all this shit now, like, it must be insane. And like the first five minutes of the show was, it was, it was. fucking crazy. It was nuts. There were so much going.

And like we got the, which I thought we were done with the Sutton and Diana thing. I did too. But he just got, it went even more bonkers. It went so off the rails and it broke my fucking heart. I was crushed. Oh, Kyle sucked. Kyle sucks now. She.

And it made me rethink everything. It made me rethink our whole relationship. It really was one of the. those moments like you have been a Kyle stand this whole show hard and even before then and like the way that she was behaving she was like grabbing Sutton like forcibly like holding her and like gripping her up she shoves her first fucking giggling like this is what happened is like Diana Diana says utters those fucking words that fell flat last week like you wanted your villain here I am and then Diana didn't have to do a thing because she got Kyle so revved up again

v. Sutton, who was merely just saying, which we always talk about, she's just saying, hey, I've been through, like, let me level with you. I've been through it twice. She wasn't trying to want her up, like, fucking Diana, like, pull it. I pulled out my miscarriage card. She pulled out two more. I got so fucking mad. That's so, that's so annoying. And like, Kyle, fuck off. Like, get out of here. It literally made me question everything. And because of this episode and because of the clips coming out, people started, there was a lot. of Instagram posts and Twitter posts about Kyle's past behavior and looking at it in a new light. I'm like, fuck, did I just miss it? Even her like apology. Yeah. Tweet or Instagram story or

whatever it was. She wasn't apologizing for anything. She was just saying this is like this is what I was thinking at the time. It was the same fucking bullshit as when she sat down with Sutton. Like my problem is that Sutton doesn't, we know Sutton doesn't react. She doesn't behave in a normal away. And that's fine because it is who Sutton is. If it was anybody else, it would have been heartbreaking to watch it because, like, Sutton was, like, crying and freaking out. And she's like, she feels so cornered. And then she starts apologizing. And she has nothing to apologize for in that situation. But that's what she does. Like, she gets back on her heels. And she's like, I have to apologize. And she just wants to smooth it out. And Kyle's, like, grabbing her and

like, no. And Diane's just fucking laughing. She's giggling away like a hyena. And got you. Here's where we're at now. this is where my life has gone. I felt so bad for Sutton in that moment, like genuinely upset. I was like, she, you could tell, like, she was just, like, flummoxed. She didn't know what to say. She was just trying to say the right thing to make it all okay.

She was talking to a brick wall because Diana's, like, I hate when people do that, when they just smile at you and, like, make you feel about two inches tall. Like, I can physically feel it. Like, it just was so. hard to watch. And in that moment, watching Kyle assault her, both verbally and physically, I went from a Kyle stand to a Sutton stand. It was easy, though. And like, that's not even hard to do when she's questioning Sutton's miscarriage is like, oh, I couldn't believe that. Did you,

that kind of sounds like bullshit. It's like, whoa. Oh my God. Who the fuck are you? There's a few things in this world that you never fucking question, period. Whether they're true or not one miscarriages two deaths in the family three cancer diagnosis those are my those are my big three which is interesting all three have happened in the housewives realm in one of the franchises like i i was so genuinely upset in that moment just like who the fuck do you think you are that you can sit here and talk to somebody and then when you say well if i do believe you like hers is recent like it doesn't matter no it does not matter and it just goes to show you that they don't understand the way that you empathize with somebody who's going through something like

they just they stick there and they say well we just need to come for you in the moment it's like no sometimes you need to be like look like i went through it if you need somebody to talk to i'm right here but with Kyle specifically like what you said looking at the things that she's done in her past like in a different light now because of what happened it I mean she just looks like a fucking social climber like she does and a sociopath yeah and she panders to these like higher up people because she wants to be where they are so she's like and almost I mean we saw what we thought it was going to be Erica Erica's taking a back seat to the whole Diana thing we thought it could have been anybody else but now Kyle's like I want to pander to Diana in this situation who's being a fucking terrible person brutal and it's just inexcusable it was absolutely inexcusable and it broke my fucking heart

Kyle we're breaking up I'm done and Sutton it pains me to say I got your back girl and I'm glad that right after that we got a little bit of some a leave relief

Jesus Christ yeah we got some a leave popped a couple of leave Popped a couple of leave, came back down to Earth, settled down a little bit. My hip's not turning, so that was great. And we get, Erica is firing on all fucking cylinders, baby. We got to see her not only hit on one of Garcell's kids, but then verbally assault another one. And I thought, one, all I could think about when Oliver was, like, she was coming after her. like hey come over here be a man sit down and he's kind of toying with the idea and I guess

he's married with a couple kids all I can think about dude is his wife watching this episode going why the fuck are you playing into this well what one thing you doing one thing I didn't like and I know it was like pretty playful and yeah Erica was pretty wasted but I didn't like that she she immediately was like let's talk to your baby mama like he's married yeah he's got a wife that's not a baby mama. I didn't really like that. There's a distinction and she knew that and that she was trying to, I think, downgrade the relationship to kind of make him second-guess it in the moment. I read it as a little micro-racism, but. Oh, did you really? Yeah, yeah, at the moment. But that's, I mean, that's how it came across to me. And she does that and like, yeah, you get

like Oliver's kind of playing into it. Like, yeah, I'll take a see. He's fucking 30. But I did like that. Erica, like, raises her leg in the air to call him over. And Marcel goes, what in the leg lift is going on over there? I know. And he comes over pretty quick and sits down and then Garcel like pulls him out and probably saves him. And by the way, Oliver, I'm sorry for what you're going through tonight with your wife because I'm sure she's not thrilled. Yeah. So be smarter next time, buddy.

But then Garcell's poor son, Jacks, who's 14 years old and just turned 14, I guess. He goes to pick up the flowers for his mom. and she says get the fuck out of here but I do this is what I thought the first time I saw it on Instagram I was like oh fuck you can't say that to a 14 year old

I think genuinely she was saying get out of here before you get in trouble because I'm going to hit on you next that's what I got from that that's yeah and in the context of the episode I think I thought the same thing I like right after

I couldn't really tell when Jacks is walking out of the room and he's telling his mom what happened and he says it verbatim he doesn't say F or you know nor fuck no he drops the he's like she told me to get the fuck out of here and Garcel got all like up in arms she's like oh yeah you hurt his feelings and I was like did he actually because it looked like he was like pretty upset it sounded like he was upset at first I thought he did like the high-pitched voice because he was like laughing about it but then I was like oh is he about

to cry and from Garcell's point of view she starts off by her well her and Crystal actually both said it. Your sons are all beautiful. Then heavily hits on Oliver. Yep. And then what seems like 30 seconds later tells Jacks to get the fuck out. Get the fuck out. So like it's a it's a real bad series of situations for Erica versus Garcell. So fully support Garcell in that situation. Oh for sure. Since we brought Kyle up again, we had that dinner moment with her and Sutton. And this tip me back also to some Kyle. moments of the past. She downplays her role in any altercation. Like, you were completely out of line. You were completely wrong. And you're saying to Sutton, you're hard to apologize to you.

You won't shut up. And like, Sutton's like trying to give her a hug. She's like, oh, you're going to tell me that I hit you again? It's like, yo, you did hit her. You fucking pushed her and then you grabbed her. It was not okay. And now you're going to make her feel like she's crazy because you know that Sutton's going to bite the bullet and say, I'm sorry. And this goes back to what we were just saying about Sutton with any normal person. Like, Sutton should not have given Kyle the time of day for that dinner. Nope. She just shouldn't have put herself in that situation.

Like, what you know Kyle at this point, Kyle came out on Instagram. She's like, Sutton's one of my best friends, blah, blah, all that bullshit. What do you think is going to happen? She's not really going to apologize for her role. She's going to look to see if you're going to apologize first to get her off the hot seat. And then she'll give you some fake ass apology. Yep. Sutton didn't apologize.

and then Kyle apologizes, air quotes, and then gets mad that Sutton's not really accepting because, you know what? Sutton's not looking for an apology from you. Sutton's actually still because she's so fucking perplexed as to what happened. She kind of feels like she was in the wrong after all that. And she's like, I need to explain to you what I was trying to do with Diana in that situation still because she's like, you don't fucking get it. You're just yelling at me and grabbing me the whole time and not saying anything to Diana.

I just want to tell you what I was trying to do and how it blew up and how Diana played a role in that with the terrible thing she was saying. And she doesn't fucking owe her that explanation. She doesn't, but that's how Sutton works. And we see that every week. And she apologizes first and then tries to explain where she's going. And like, us, the viewer, we, you don't know us that. Like, we know where you're coming from. We see it.

And we're like, that's fucking terrible. Kyle should be groveling to you And instead she she wants a mutual apology Yeah and like for someone that has been anti-Sutton for years For me to turn the page and I'm starting to see what you've been saying to a certain extent Like she's not calculated at all She's not manipulative she's just clumsy as fuck And she says the wrong things a lot

But it would only take a moment like this for me to like kind of see the light I guess a little bit, but it pissed me off even more. Fast forward, Diana's retelling the story to Rina and lies completely. Well, yeah, and that's what Diana's going to do always. I understand that, but it just, like, it was out of context. It was retold completely wrong.

She's like, I said I had one miscarriage. She said, oh, boop, I have two. Like, we're gambling. It's like, no, all she was doing, I mean, we touched on, we don't have to go back there. But, like, that moment, I'm just, I'm feeling like the hair on the back of my neck. stand-up. I'm like, this sucks. This isn't even fun to watch. It's just mean.

Yeah, and she's, she knows, and this is Diana being calculated versus Sutton not being calculated. Diana knows who she's talking to. She knows, I don't think that was like a producer invite over. Maybe it was and it worked out well. I don't think so. I think Diana's like, you know who I need to talk to in this group about this to get on my side is Rina. Because she's going to be on our side no matter what. And Rina's chomping at the bit. We could see it all fucking week with her tweets and her messages and stuff going out. She doesn't like when she takes a back seat. She doesn't like when she's off the show for a week. She's back and she's happy to be back, even happy to watch herself on TV again, clearly. So she's going to put herself right back into it. We didn't fully get

it this week. It looks like we're going to get it next week. But that's the person that you invite over if you want to start up some more and get more people on your side. And that's what Diana is doing. Diana wants to get to the point where she doesn't have to do anything anymore. She had her one moment, got Kyle to fully go against Sutton. Now she gets to talk to Rinna in the background. Rinna's going to go after Sutton. And Sutton's not going to be able to talk her way out. And Garsell, thankfully, was there for some of it.

So she'll be able to back her up. But like, will Garcel and Sutton be enough against the others? Probably not. Like, you saw Durit the entire episode do fucking nothing. Zero. She sat next to Erica while Erica was yelling at Oliver and yelling at Jacks and whatever. Threat didn't do that goddamn thing. She was sat at the whole time.

After the fact, it's like, that's not okay. It's like, well, then step in in the moment. Yeah, do something at that point. All we got out to read once again this episode is recapping what happened to her. And I thought we put it to bed. We clearly didn't. I brush it off at this point. It's not like, it used to make me so angry when we would spend so much time on that.

But now I'm just like, all, whatever. I just like, look at my phone. She did say one thing that was kind of funny. And it probably wasn't meant to be funny. But she said, you know what? Like, I can't be by myself. I can almost feel the trauma in my. blood and when she said that I was like that's like me during any minor inconvenience in my life

like yeah I went to chip oh I could feel the trauma in my blood after that one yeah I'm on 76 and it's backed up all the way to the conchie curve uh I hate this I can feel it in my blood like but like I look to like now when Dorit talks it's like I make fun of when she does the baby voice like PK was going to go sit down sit down next to me my baby my baby like fuck you Who talks like that? It does. Yeah. So she's,

I mean, she's out of the picture entirely. I really don't care what she does at this point. And it kind of leads us into getting ready for Sutton's party. Sutton's house looked great. It did. It looks good except you said it 15 fucking times.

Mucky. It's mucky. This is all mucky, mucky, mucky, well, that was fucking rude when, hold on. Before we even get into that, Rina shows up.

I have, there's two comparisons. When I first saw it, what she looked like to me, one, Austin Powers. Oh, my God, I was about to say Austin Powers. Yeah. Austin Powers. And then two, I was like, she looks like a villain from like Speed Racer. Like she's going to hop in this like souped up F1 car or something and be a terrible villain that's going to run you off the icy road.

For those of you that don't know and probably nobody does, there was a remake of Speed Racer, which was horrible. Shooter and I at high school loved it. loved Speed Racer. Go back and watch it. It stars Emil Hirsch. And John Goodman. And Susan Sarandon. Yep.

I mean, it's a great cast. It's a terrible movie, but we love that we watched it all the time during third period. That's great. But, yeah, when she walked in and I'll give her this, the heels were fucking cool. I guess. Yeah. But the rest of her outfit, Austin Powers.

Yeah, that's so funny, dude. That's the first thing I thought. But I thought it was hysterical that... She shows up with a candle and goes, this is my favorite candle. And sudden goes, oh, my God, really? And then fast forward like five minutes, Erica shows up. And she goes, this is my favorite candle. She goes, oh, my God, really?

Just like genuinely happy to have people. She was very happy to have people to host. She wanted to show off the new digs. It sucks that it was mucky out. Did you hear what she compared it to? Oh, yeah. She said Augusta. This reminds me of Augusta National, like walking through it.

I was like, wow. Woman after my own heart. She, I think she's playing into the brav bros. I think that she's like, this is an audience I can captivate. Yeah, I mean, she's got me hooked. But yeah, really unfortunate, maybe you see that coming. You put some plastic out there or something, but, or, you know, move the dinner inside. It's California.

I agree. She should have moved it inside. But she even said, like, you persevere, you have the dinner outside. I mean, I guess. They did a good job with, you know, the flip-flops and the handing out the fur coats. But actually, I thought that was kind of. A good move. I think the ladies almost enjoy...

I think in the beginning, they were all pissed because they had to put on flip-flops and all this stuff. But when she brought out the coats, it turned into like a game. It was like, ooh, I get like a luxury coat. She's like, this one's from 1940, which I guess makes it nicer. I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah, backward fur was really fair. But they... Is that the name of your album? Back when fur was really fair. It was really fur. Yeah. By a shooter.

It was nice to see her. her like happy in that moment now we also get the side of erika versus garcel which we saw two different things leading up to it which was pretty funny uh erika taking a walk in the park with crystal and she's like fucking Haitian mom coming after me like that's kind of funny and then she didn't realize how old jacks even was i don't know if 16 they're 16 they're men she's like he's 14 she goes oh that changes yeah but between that and then the one liner you get with garcel and Cherie sitting down, time to straighten a bitch out. Yeah, and they cheers to it.

She's never toasted to that before. I think that's a new toast. I don't drink anymore, but every time we go out, I'm going to make sure we cheers to straighten that bitch out. Yeah, I saw somebody tweeted our buddy, Zach, saying it looks like you have a new tagline for one of your wine bottles. Oh, nice. I think that would be a good one.

I think that's a good one, too. But at the actual dinner itself, nothing really popped off other than Renna brings up, like, oh, you're not passive aggressive. and she's like, no, I'm not. And she's really not. Like, she's just straight up aggressive when she gets in moments. But Renna contradicts herself. She's like, oh, you didn't call Diana a motherfucker?

It's like, I did. That's not passive aggressive, Renna, that's straight up aggressive. Yeah, called her soulless too. Yeah. Like, what do you want? If you say it to their face and it's a bold statement, that's just aggression. That is not passive aggressiveness.

So before you throw that out there, like, get your shit together and say the right phrasing, because that made her look so dumb. And she's already digging a hole. Like, my whole world is upside down. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know where I am. Like, Rina I'm out on.

I loved Rina forever. Like, all the way back, my first glimpse of Lisa Rina was Entourage. Remember that when she's in a hot tub with Johnny Drama and Turtle? Oh, yeah. That's like my first, and I know she's been around for much longer than that,

but big Rina fan from then on. and now she's turning into such an asshole and then Kyle who I love to broke my fucking heart and I don't know which way is up and I'm struggling and it hurts you'll work through it you'll be all right I'm trying I'm trying I just don't like I'm going to be a Sutton guy now I don't think so I don't think this podcast is big enough for two Sutton guys no I don't I don't want to be like she still annoys the shit out of me, but you can't help but feel for her after all that shit. That was atrocious. It is funny. Like, just watching the way that she reacts to people calling her out, like,

she doesn't really get mad. She just starts immediately explaining herself, but she's doing it to the wrong crew. Like, these women are not listening to you. They have their own agendas. They have their own thoughts in their head that they're going to push out. And you can't really permeate that. So it's just never going to work. And I do feel for, like, episode in, episode out, it ends up with Sutton end up like, thank God that she can brush it off and like still be chipper and happy about like things going on in her life. Because otherwise that would be demoralizing to people. Like she'd have to leave the show because they're just like ripping her every time. I did see and I wanted to touch on this and this is just like a brief thing

that I noticed that was kind of funny. When Diana left Garcell's party, who went running out like ooh, did she leave? Let me go check on her. Crystal. Yep. Crystal was up in a split second. and going after her and like all right see you later babe well you know what that is though like and i'll give crystal a little bit of credit here she didn't get a lot of information out of kyle or like garcel came over and garcel's just like i'm going to let them go she didn't say diana immediately like attacked me when i sat down she just kind of like brushed it off and moved on she knows that it happened and it'll come up later kyle came over and was just like i can't with these two it's like you just fucking you were the problem yeah you were the like i mean there was a problem diana was the problem but

you were much worse than Diana, and that's hard to do in that moment. Yeah. But we got a couple of questions, nothing crazy. From I'm Crazy for Baby 2021. Okay. Was Eric insinuating that the boy get the F out before he gets in trouble, meaning she would hit on him next? We covered that.

And we both think, yeah. I think, yeah, probably. I think that's what she was insinuating. That seems to be the vibe. From Paramapunya, do you think Andy will address the microaggressions towards Garcell and her kids? Yeah.

Yeah, I don't think Andy tread lightly on those things. I think, if anything, we kind of, as a fan base, kind of look to Andy, especially with, like, the reunion. Sometimes he gets, the other thing, I mean, the thing with Andy is he does the watch what happens live. throughout the season. So he might hold on to something like that for the reunion just because it'll be captivating.

It'll be good TV rather than just kind of like having, I don't know, like a one-off person. Like he has Crystal on or something again and asks Crystal about it. Like Crystal's not going to say anything. So I think he knows. I think he knows better. Then he's going to hold on to that one.

Yeah, that's a reunion question. I think so too. Oh, we got a few. From Linda Brand Tanner. Why, Kyle? that's it i think you should answer that one yeah linda i don't know and i i can't wrap my head around it either maybe we'll get some kind of resolve here but i think if if you go back and look at some of her past behavior i i i think this is a trend i don't think that she's changing who she is

i think that maybe it's just kind of the blinders are coming off of all of our like the kyle stands in the world. And it breaks my heart, Linda. I'm with you. Why, Kyle? I don't know. We got one last question from Lauren F. Who would you rather be a young husband to? Diana Jenkins or Caroline Stanberry, and I like this one. That's a good one. I'll let you go. I am going to choose Diana because I think, and I touched on this earlier, I think that she actually kind of cherishes the family as a whole. Even if you end up not being like the focal point as her husband and like the patriarch of the family, like she is the overlord of the whole family, she'll still like cherish and love the child

that you brought in and also pay for everything that you want to fucking do. That's true. But stipulation here. Are we us or are we those guys? Are we Asher and Sergio? No, we're us. We're us? Yeah.

Okay. Ooh. I think I have to go. I'm thinking, yeah, I have to go with Diana, too. It's close for me, though. And here's why. I think I'd like to live in Dubai. I think that would be fun.

And if I'm me and that shit's all popping off, like, fuck you, I'm out. And if there's no pre-nup, fuck you, Stanberry. Give me that money. Give me that money. And I'm going wild. Dubai. Yeah, because you know, Diana. I feel like they probably both have pre-offs.

They have to have pre-nups, for sure, without a doubt. But in my realm, in my world, we didn't sign a pre-up, Stanberry. And you know what? I'm sick of your shit. I've had it up to here, and I'm out of here. You can go sit with your, with your no friends. And I'm going to go hit up my soccer player buddies from Real Madrid and be like, yo, boys.

You didn't play soccer for Real Madrid. You're not answering a Sergio. Oh, I fucked up. Yeah. No, fuck that. In this world, steal Russell, aka. Rooster. You know where they got that nickname from? It's not Top Gun. That's what they called me in Real Madrid. Steal the rooster. You know why? Because every time I scored a fucking goal, I strut around the goddamn field. Because you have chicken legs? No. Fuck you. Because I strut around the field. Great question. That was fantastic. I take that back. We actually have one more question for. From Shooter.

All right. So this one comes from my girlfriend, Colleen. Stuck on a desert island and can only bring one male cast member from Southern Charm. Where are you bringing? Craig. Really? There's more to choose from than just Craig and Austin. I know that.

Oh, am I to take fucking Whitney? Is Craig going to bring you pillows? I hope he does. If I'm on a desert... That would be nice. If I'm on a desert island and I have a couple of his pillows, yeah. that's a much better scenario than sitting there with Austin bitch and moan or fucking Whitney talk about God knows what I think that's fair I'm gonna go a little off the beaten path with this one I'm gonna go with Pringle oh see I have thoughts on Pringle really well we'll hear that but I like Pringle I think he's the most down to earth out of any of them and you see him he must get along with everybody because he's talking to every group as he walks through I think he's probably the chillest of the guys to be on a desert island with I agree that he's the chillest of the guys and if you're on a desert island there's probably not

any kind of shadow games being played i i think that pringle is very calculated and i think that he knows he comes off as the cool guy and i think that he knows that he gets away with shit because people like oh he's one of the boys like yeah it's just pringle it's pringle being pringle but i was rewatching someone last year and i was watching his interactions with madison and Austin was still with Madison at this point. Shady, shady, shady, shady. Like that shit. And he was like, he's in your face about it enough.

Like even to Austin, he was saying stuff. And it's almost making it okay. But I think that's a move. I think he's like, oh, like, ah, I had designs is what he says to him. Like, I had designs. Like, ha, ha, ha. But at the same time, like, yo, you're talking about my girlfriend, bro. Back the fuck off.

I also think that adding all, to it. I think Pringle could probably help Russell together some wraths. Why? Get off of there. Why? Out of any of them? Just because he looks the part? Yep. You have no bearing on whether... This man works in the stock market. Yeah, it's fine.

Just because he has a beard and looks like rugged, you think that he just knows how to do that shit. He's got a good head on his shoulders. I would argue you're probably out of all of that crew, he would probably be the most likely to be able to do something like that. But I think that that's beardist. Hey, I am being bearded.

Yeah, I am being embarrassed. My mustache. But that wraps it up. Make sure you follow us on Instagram at brav underscore bros. On Twitter, also brav underscore bros. We're getting a lot more questions every week, which is great. Keep them coming in. You'll hear your name on the air or your screen name.

What is it? Screen name. Or your AIM screen name. Oh, my God, do that. Send us your AIM screen names. We'll read those out. but that's all we got we'll see you next week braf bros are out of here see you next week bye

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