Bros & Shows - What is Jesse Solomon Doing? (Summer House Full Recap)

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

What's up Bros? Summer is heating up and my goodness things are getting out of control. In this episode, Jesse has to answer for his behavior at the Summer House last weekend. He's taken the approach of 'it was just a joke' yet his body language and overall behavior proves he feels guilty (as he should). Lexi and Jesse get together in the city and the love bombing commences followed quickly by a lets be exclusive conversation. Paige and Craig continue to expose cracks in their relationship as we near closer and closer to D-Day. Carl launches Soft Bar at an event in Jersey and we get the return of Bailee simply to expose Jesse. Imrul lets slip about the toe sucking, Bailee confronts Jesse, Jesse brings up people speculating about him flirting with Ciara, and the downward spiral commences. Gabby finds some potential dirt on Carl in regards to a DM that Lil sent and the timing of it. (this has been debunked by Lil, contact was made on October 21st of that year). She takes it to Lindsay who shows that she is still not fully over the Carl situation and plans on confronting him. At West's kickball game, Jesse faces the music and he handles it.... horribly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up, dude? Feeling good. We just had a hell of a discourse about Oreos with our best. members this is a members episode so we just got to shoot the shit with our friends you know what it goes you know that's just how we want to spend our Thursday night and i could not be happier than to spend it with you but mostly them but also you kind of you but mostly them and if you want to make sure that you don't miss out on our next live recap or our next community meeting on zoom make sure you sign up for our membership program go to memberful oh sorry go to the bros dot memberful dot com five dollars a month or $50 for the year.

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Very nice. Just noticed that. Just the occasion. Nope. No. Absolutely not. They're not matching hats. Okay, cool.

I thought we were there. I guess we're not. That's good to know. That's good to know. I thought that's where we had gotten to in our relationship matching hats. But hey, no. You haven't said that you love me yet, so. Do you have the parents?

You haven't sucked my toe yet. When you do that, we can go matching hats. Yeah, let's, I'm trying to figure out the, the Jesse Solomon steps. What would Jesse Solomon do? Meet the parents. Then he would suck a toe, and then he wouldn't tell her. and then he would ask to be exclusive to avoid it. And then say,

I love you and then call her, his girlfriends. Yeah, we got it. That's definitely the line right there, definitely. But I like this episode a lot. This was,

this season's just coming on really strong, which I'm glad. It's taking a different turn than I thought it was. Like when I was thinking about what the season would be, I was definitely much more of a, like, fun party house with like the dudes, you know,

like West, Jesse doing their thing. It's taking an interesting turn. But it's a, Good turn. And I will also say Lexi's growing on me. I really liked how she handled this episode. I'm starting to enjoy her a lot more. And yeah, I'm glad that it's off to a good start. I guess I'm really glad that it's off to a good start. And usually the makings of a good show is a lot of people talking about the castmates, being upset about the castmates. And the only thing I'll say is this, because there's a lot of people online talking about how Jesse needs to go. West needs to go. We got to get them out of here. They're terrible people. I'm sorry to tell you. this, but this is how these shows work. We needed exactly this. If not for this, then we would be where we were three years ago, where it was boring,

and everybody was going to Barry's boot camp in the morning. We have actual focal points. You don't know these people. These people are not dating your cousin. They're not dating your sister. They're on a TV show dating people you've never met in your life. They're douchebags, yes, but we need douchebags on shows like this. So just be happy for it.

Don't say that they're annoying. Don't say that they're pitiful people. You could say whatever the hell you want, but they're not. going anywhere because without somebody like jesse we really wouldn't have a whole lot to go off of this season he's been a huge focal point and trying to figure out if you like them or hate him is kind of part of the process i mean that's really well said and that's something i think that a lot of comments and you know social media discourse gets stuck on it's like yeah they're not always the greatest dudes but what you want in like a jesse solomon or a west is to watch them

be dumb dudes like that's kind of the schick and it's it's entertaining jack taylor a good dude no but was he entertaining a shit yes he's been on our screens for like over a decade because we keep watching him he's a gigantic piece of shit i have no remorse for the guy i don't care if he was never on our tv again because of how bad of a person he is however am i going to watch the valley yep am i going to be entertained whether i like him or not by jacks at some point yep yeah it is what it is. Tom Sandoval was on the traders and he was wildly entertaining. Still a huge piece of shit, but still a huge piece of shit. His cameos are so awesome. They're not. Have you seen any of his cameos? What do you mean they're not? They are so good. You know what you're getting for your

birthday, right? Don't, don't do that. Don't waste your wife's birthday is coming up soon too. Yeah. One, that's very sweet that you know my wife's birthday. And two, don't actually send her one. That was actually a dumb one. That'd be really fucking funny. But let's get into this episode. We start out. We're poolside the morning after the wild night after Imrull's threesome. And it cracked me up that the first move that Jesse makes is to bring up the orgy as a defense mechanism.

It's like, oh, Imrule, let's talk about what you did last night with those two girls that you had sex with, right? Right, guys, we're going to talk about what Imruel did. and that's 100% he's like trying to get ahead of it and make sure that emerald's cool i don't really get it i think yeah he was trying to get ahead of it he's also trying to frame it as a huge joke yeah but you already let the cat out of the bag so i don't really understand why it's such a thing like yeah west isn't going to tell anybody but for him to sit there and be like yeah we're just going to paint this as a big joke right away imrule orgy beast going after it how many girls did you hook up with last night oh now you're going to be shy like

you could tell Jesse was being way more intrusive than usual and he had a plan there was a whole thing here and the only thing I'll say about that is and this goes to show you for later when he says or this was actually in the after show that stupid after show that shouldn't exist he said in the after show I was really hoping that Lexi never found out about that it's on TV bro filmed you filmed a confessional about it like how did you think this was going to work didn't you see your friend West get skewered for all the things that he did on camera last year with Sierra yeah Why did you not think that that would apply to you? Why did you not think that you were going to get caught doing that?

I understand if you were like blackout drunk, but the fact that the wheels were moving this early in the morning the day after shows so much remorse. And the fact that he's already just spinning something to try to make it work so that Lexi doesn't find out shows you what his intentions are. 100%. He feels really, really guilty. And you get it the entire episode. You get the uneasy kickball game where he's like, you can tell he's not having a good time once he realizes that she's,

He's not vibing with him. This whole episode was him trying to convince himself that it was a joke because he feels awful for what he did. And he should. He put himself and Lexi in a really stupid situation. And that's kind of been the MO for this entire relationship, I guess, is what we'll call it. If you're going to frame it as a joke and act like it's some big thing to laugh about, you would have just told her. The fact that you were hiding it from her and trying to pin it on her is bad behavior. Jesse? Can't be doing that. You can't be blaming her and saying, well, you know, I know how she is.

She gets very jealous about this. She wouldn't get the joke. No, we don't know what you're saying. But you're not that smart. Come on. No. And by the way, there's no reason for you to try to spin it and make it seem like she's overly jealous because you made a stupid choice to go into that room that night. The whole thing with Jesse, and if he wants to play the card that he plays later in, you know, it's an adjustment for me. I'm not. used to this, okay, fine. But you're actively changing your behaviors when she's not around. You don't want this. It's clear you don't want it. You want to want it. That's where he's at. He wants to be the guy that wants to be in this relationship. But his natural behaviors and actions tell a completely different story. But we'll talk more about that later. I don't want to get too far into it. Now, yeah, it's hard not to. I know. It really is. We get a quick check in with Carl about how

the meeting with Will went and it went great. They got a couple of selfies together. It looks like things are trending in the right direction. He's like, you know, just feel bad. I'm happy that he's happy. He's just like it just feels really nice to be like wanted. Like she's like really into me

and like that's really nice. It's like I'm sure it is. It probably feels great. I'm still at the point where I'm happy for him and I just want the best for him. But some of the things that he does, I'm like, oh, Carl, come on buddy. Sweet, sweet Carl. Fish out of water.

Let's just figure this one out, buddy. He's trying his best, but we do get a quick cut over to Craig and Paige. How do you feel? I know how you feel about babe. I know how you feel about chicken. They're pretty much the same thing to you. How do you feel about chicken with chicken sound effects? Do you go?

No. You don't like that? Oh, fuck. I hated it so much. I really, really hated it. And I felt like what Paige looked like right after that because when she goes to her confessional and she's saying, like, I feel like Craig is being mean to me in the most Southern way possible. You could see it on her face.

She's like, oh, God. And I know that the day before she just had this conversation where she's talking about how he's not supportive and he's kind of, you know, a bit of a pick me. And he's just trying to root against me to try to get me into moving down to Charleston so that I don't get to chase my dreams. That's how she felt. That's how I felt listening to that chicken sound effect. Didn't like it. Didn't care for it at all. Please.

I'm so happy it's gone. Yeah, that was a tough chicken, but that's funny. But you can tell the vibes are off between these two. You can tell that things are starting to. That's funny to your own thing. That's funny. That's funny. Because I wasn't expecting it.

I just said it's tough chicken. It's tough chicken. But anyway, like I said, the vibes are clearly off with these two. You're starting to really see this trend towards them breaking up. And when she explained it here, because obviously you can see why. But you can also see there's two sides of the story. he's pretty clear about what he wants she's pretty clear about what she wants and they're just on two different wavelengths entirely but when she explains it here it makes it make a lot more sense

because one the craig's attacking me in a southern way that hit me right in the gut i was like i know exactly what that's like growing up in the south it's this like it's the bless your heart you know like i'll bless your heart like they say nice things but they're being dicks and that is what he's doing He's trying to convince her when it goes back to that scene and they're having dinner. What he's saying to her is not so much how he's framing it. Because he's framing it like, you know, one day we got to do this. One day we should do that. What he's saying is you need to do this.

You need to do that so that we can move forward. And if you don't, this is not going to work. He's saying like, don't let this thing get too far. And the thing is her dream, the thing that she wants to do the most in her life, the thing that she's been wishing to do for pretty much her entire existence, at least as long as she can remembers. But don't let it get too far to the point that we can't get back to what really matters. And that's living at a house down to Charleston and raising kids. Because that's what I want. But that's also what you want. Yeah, that's what he's doing.

That is 100% what he's doing. And when she says this line, he has no interest in talking about my career unless it involves our relationship. And flashback to every conversation that they've had in regards to the tour. what does it come back to? How is this going to affect us? How is this going to affect the relationship? It has never been, I'm so stoked that you leave in two weeks for your 60 city tour. You must be so excited. Are you nervous? Like what's going on? We never see that scene. We just see the scene of you're going away for a while and I need reassurances because I'm insecure about where we are at the moment. And that's what pushed her off. Like you can tell that's what

finally drove a separation between these two that they couldn't get over. Yeah. And it finally got to the point. And I know, we took like two years off from even talking about their relationship. It took them breaking up for them to actually, and mostly Page, to just be honest about what the hell is going on in their relationship. And finally, the wheels started turning. You can't really stop it. And it seems like pretty much every episode, you and I will watch this. Get the gist of it. Understand it. Say, this is what Craig should be doing. And then the next episode, we'll get Paige in a confessional saying pretty much that verbatim. So it's pretty much breaking down to just that and we're seeing it and it looks like there's really only one side of

the story obviously you know after a breakup we're not going to get the whole let's turn around to just discuss all of this we're just going to move on and ignore it so it's going to be interesting to see you know a couple of months from now if they're not in relationships maybe we'll get to revisit some of this stuff hopefully not i think we just let it lie yeah because i don't really feel like talking about it anymore i was really happy that Craig just kind of left in the beginning the episode so we don't have to talk about it as much anymore because i am getting a little lethargic. I think that we've gotten the answers that we're going to get. At this point, it's going to be people just throwing stones, throwing shade at each other, and it's going

to get messy. We understand what happened. And I don't think either of them are particularly at fault. I think that one party handled it better than the other party at the end. But this was two people that weren't meant to be together because they want different things. And we can leave it there. That's what I make. But we learn about the soft bar event in New Jersey. uh carl's bar has not opened yet in brick and mortar form so they bought a like a van bus thing that will go to events so at like a portable bar almost and it's their first thing is like the friends and family to test some of the drinks so it's nice to see him gassed up about something and of course the uh worries of the castmates later on in the episode are extremely valid this is a

difficult idea to pull off. As somebody in the sober community, I would love for this to work. I really want this to work. I think it's a good idea on paper. It's whether or not you can fill seats and sell drinks is going to be the big question mark. But yeah, but you know what? I'm not even going to say whether or not it's a good idea, but good business idea. It could work out and I actually hope it works out because that would be really cool and it's a good niche. That makes a lot of sense. I'm also not going to take the words of people like West and Jesse and, you know, Paige is really smart too, but she's not doing anything like this in this space. They don't know what the hell they're talking about. So they can leave that at that. I'll take it for the sentiment, which is we'd rather

see Carl pursue a passion, be happy about something, do something that he loves. And if it crashes and burns, he can at least say that he gave it a run. So that's way better than what we've seen from Carl in the last couple of years while he was in that relationship. So I like that we get to see the cast just being sort of like that supportive mom that knows that their kid's an idiot. It's like, oh, it's sort of like, it's another bless your heart. Yeah, it's full circle. But watching him like try to do something and you know he's never going to succeed at playing baseball or basketball or whatever it might be.

But he's having fun out there. You know, he's having a great time. He's not going to go pro, but you know what? Look at him go. Look, he's so happy, you know? Yeah. But I like the same team behind it as well. You know, he wants to help people.

And I love that. I love that he's giving back to the sober community. so I hope it goes well and I don't think it's opened yet I believe it opens sometime this summer but I'm not positive at some point this summer or that's what he was trying anyway that's what they're aiming for but you know everyone's departing the house and page makes I think five number one priority jokes so you can tell that she's fed up with this whole stick and Jesse to Sierra I could get used to this after hugging her at the car and she's like ha ha don't And he's like, well, it was really fun hanging this weekend.

And he's just putting one more feeler out there, just kind of, that's what that weekend was. It's exactly what that weekend was. He was putting feelers out there. And more than ever, and I hope that this is what we get, because I do think that deep down Jesse Solomon is a very fun person to have on a show like this. He's going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. To hang out.

Like, if you and I hung out with them, it would be a blessed. I wouldn't let my sister date him. Absolutely not. not a chance in hell but watching it it's like yeah you're there but i know exactly what you need and you need an absolute just fucking fist in the face of reality like you can't do this so he needs something that's just going to completely obliterate him to get back to normal and that's kind of where we are right now and look you can point to a lot of different things last season was a little bit different you know we had the cancer diagnosis he was a little unsure about things he's got a new

lease on life now he's coming back in he got to see west with sierra last year maybe he was a little bit of jealous maybe he's not really sure what he wants whatever whatever it might be the way he's handling relationships with females right now is terrible and the only thing that's going to fix that is if he crashes and burns so we'll have to see it no he needs to come to jesus moment i don't think that this is it i think he's going to get away with this one with like a slap on the wrist i don't think this is come to jesus moment but it's out there no it is out there Wait, I didn't get charged for my donut. It was free with this Tim's rewards points.

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to go back to Canada because Nana's not doing very well and she hasn't told anybody but Jesse's my person and I trust him more than anyone and I'm like oh three weeks to do a relationship kind of weird to say it's a wild thing to say but it doesn't matter I think it does I know this is what's going to happen we're going to get lost in the sauce of Jesse being an asshole to Lexi we're going to feel really bad for Lexi everybody's going to forget that they've only known each other for like four weeks that's a thousand percent going to happen probably by next episode so I'm going be here to remind everybody you've only known each other for a couple of weeks you shouldn't be putting that much faith in somebody that you just met you don't know but you also don't deserve

what jesse's doing no absolutely not absolutely not but it starts to get a little uh stormy out there did you know that lexie's great grandfather was struck by lightning twice no it's a great fact yeah great fact wonder if it happened was it the same strike that it just come down like hit him in two spots and he's like twice i don't know i imagined it was two separate occasions in which he i don't know i feel like once you get into like the great aspect of relatives you can just kind of make things up i think that's the whole fun part of it yeah it's like folklore yeah exactly he's going to prove you wrong they don't find great grandpappy yeah i had a pampa and a mamma god i just love them so much i always every time you bring them up it just brings me so much joy

hearing those names pampa veril was his name he drank butter and you know why you know why i love it is because when i say it it's all it's like an automatic southern draw yeah and i love it you know how to speak feel good yep pam pa he legit he drank butter milk with cracked pepper in it you had cracked pepper in a buttermilk and he was like here drink this it'll put some hair on your chest i spin it out and he called me a bitch when i was nine good times anyway back to the episode so you ever get that hair on your chest I did. Yeah,

I don't know if it was from that, but, you know, I didn't get hair on my chest eventually. But anyway, Lexi brings up last weekend. And Jesse's like,

ah, you know, I'm just, I'm just trying to remember what happened. I'm trying to think. I just, you know, the party,

yeah, the party was cool, I think, but he goes to a confessional, and he's like, you know, I don't want to make a big deal out of nothing,

you know, it wasn't sexual. It was just a joke. And I wrote what you said earlier, then tell her. If it's not a big deal, if it's just a joke, Why can you not tell her if you don't think it's a big deal?

Why is your behavior and action so awkward if it's not a big deal? Well, it makes sense. I know exactly why you're saying that. You're trying to get ahead of it, but by you not telling her, you're telling us everything, that you are pretty nervous about this, that you do feel like you betrayed her in some way, and you don't want to lose what you have with Lexi because you haven't had sex with her yet. I'm feeling in the last part myself, but I'm sorry, the things that you've done so far, This is, it was such a hot button issue.

Like, watch what happens live. All the people online talking about it. Did he get into a committed relationship just to have sex with Lexi? It's a tough fucking conversation to have, but all signs point to yes. I mean, obviously. But the fucking, the crazy thing, dude, the parallels that you can draw from this to Sierra and West from last season, it's literally the same exact scenario. It's a little bit different in some.

aspects. But overall, it's the same goddamn thing. Like, the only difference is that Lexi moves faster as far as getting into the relationship than Sierra did. Sierra was trying to make sure of things a little bit longer. Lexi is a romantic and wants to give it a shot to see if it's going to work out. But the details are the same. So it's so dumb that he's going to come into like do the same shit. Like you just watched your boy who is still dealing with the fallout, go through the same thing and you are doing all of the same behaviors. It's wild. That's what douchebags do more than anybody else is they look at something like that. And even though Jesse and West are friends, he looks at West and goes, oh, I could do the same thing and that's not going to happen to me.

I would never let that happen to me because I'm too good for that. You could be in the exact same situation. You're going to get your ass handed to you and do the exact same thing. But they always think that they're going to be able to get away. I highlighted the one comment from Stella that just said Also so fucking weird watching your friend have a threesome red flag Red flag We don't kink shame on this program

We don't kink shame You know just throwing that out there Is it a little bit strange to most of us? Sure But to each their own You know That's the bros code But the fact

The fact that he follows up that confessional And I know it's not like in real time But the fact that we get not a big deal him bugging out with him rule at the pool and now his next line is every night not together is a shitty one and I've been exclusive with you but I want to make it official I want to be exclusive with you I don't know if and I I'm unfortunately a little confident about this I think that this was almost a move the timing of it I'm not saying it wouldn't have gotten to exclusivity at some point but this timing

makes it seem like this but this seems like it was a get out of jail free card or he thought it was like we're going to be exclusive hey we weren't exclusive when i got my toe sucked when i flirt with yeah but now we're we're for real now wow that's no it's okay i'll speak for you no that that is actually a really good point but i mean again it's sort of the same thing that i said earlier everything yes lexie's being incredibly transparent with all of these things but the fact that he had one month to figure this out is and I'm making shit for this. It's a little manipulative to put a timeline on you have to be exclusive with me

within a month. You can't really do that. This isn't a month. No, I know, but it's within the month. That's when he went out to dinner with it. I think it's fair for her to put a timeline.

Okay, I'll start up. On when they can become exclusive. Like, if you're not exclusive with me within one month, then I'm going to be done with this. I feel like speaking, like you can have that.

I feel like a timer in your own head. Like, all right, yeah, if a month has gone by and he's still not exclusive with me, something's going on here there's a red flag or this isn't worth my time but telling somebody that like hey like that's when you get there's a line here where it's like yeah transparency is awesome tell everybody what you want but when you go over that line it's a little manipulative because then you're

kind of you're forcing him to rush into things he's in this position because of his own doing i'm not going to argue that but at that point you're just accelerating even more and forcing him to accelerate with you which not great okay i i see what you're saying now actually and i yeah i can see that but lexie is enamored with this man and she's like you know if it's meant to be we'll figure it out and this made me realize how old i am when we're quoting uh musicians uh don't maybe look stupid like Sabrina carpenter says no shade is Sabrina carpenter but now we're quoting like people younger than us and that makes me feel old like I'm used to like quoting you know some of the greats like rock grades rap grades maybe quote big year Tupac

Like the great Sabrina Carpenter says, I'm like, fuck, I'm old. I'm old now. Like Ramstein says, do host, am I right? Do host. Damn right. But let's get to the soft bar event. And it's like the concept and brand announcement. And this is where Carl's like the whole goal is to help people.

I want to, this is an important space to me. And here's my chance to get back. And also this is something I want to pursue. So again, good for him. Lil arrives, made her own outfit. looks great love to see it we're going to have a whole conversation about a little at the end of this could tell she made her own outfit but yeah hey look like a tablecloth look could it use some tweaks but i've seen that before no you know what that's what it was so if you go down the shore

and you're going to see this shit all the time you go down the shore those fucking cabanas that everybody has which by the way wildwood outlawed those no more cabanas on the beach because those shits fly everywhere where they take people out too crazy some really good takedowns. It is so bad. It is so bad, but I laugh every time it happens. Either way, that's the print that we get. So she must have just gotten a hold of one of those. Zip, zip, zip, zip, zip. Put a little safety pins on it. Boom. Ready to go. But I like her quirkiness for Carl. It makes sense. They make sense. It makes a ton of sense. Yes. Yes. I agree with you, 100%. But this is where he says his line. You know, she's into me and I'm super into that. I'm like,

Hell yeah, brother. But I like that the drinks have mushroom benefits in them because there are some things you can do with those. I've had some, not like shroom drinks. I've had like stuff with Lions Main and Ashwaganda and whatnot. Ashwagana is not a mushroom. But look, the point is I like this kind of stuff. So I'm into it. I just thought Ashwaganda was a mushroom.

It's not. No, it's not a mushroom. Yeah, I forget what it is exactly, but it's not a mushroom because I thought it was too for a while. Is it a root? Ashwaganda might be a root. It might be a root. yeah you might be you might be right there but we'll talk about that on health bros um but we get a little Sharon shout out and I've seen some people in the comments over here our members talking about

Sharon I would like to scroll up there but Sharon is just happy to see Carl thriving happy to see him pursuing something it's been a shit year you know I think she doesn't say shit but it's been a shitty year and she was mean to me too and I was like oh Sharon And don't see it out there. Hell yeah. I love that. And West asks her, like, are you able to move on from it? Can you forgive her sick?

Nah, not really. Yeah, no. No. And Carl, he's just going to take the high road. That bitch. Like, that's the vibe that I got from her too. Like, saying it under her breath, like, he's just always taking the fucking high road.

Every single time. I tell him to get on the low road. There's more room down here for people. Just get down there and just go take some stabs. Yeah. love and this is me making fun of west that west immediately says yeah that's what you know trying to take the high road that's what i'm trying to do too yeah i know are you you did a fucking hip piece on her on sierra in the new york times and did like 16 podcasts including ours talking

about sierra in the off season not great love you love you yeah but like you're not taking the fucking high road no you're not at all but you are now a year later like once the fallout happened dude but you know keep going we get bailey back for one reason and was i surprised reason only i know but she i feel like producers called her and they're like hey uh we just need someone to throw into the bus and you don't matter anymore you're going to drop this news and then you're not coming back again you're the only person that could get this information and relay it back to lexie and lexie would trust it and we really need lexie to find out about that this so we're going to plug you over here how about that you how do you feel that going to new jersey

all right let's go yeah do you want to go to a soft call up in jersey get on the fucking bus do you imagine being on that fucking coach bus over to new jersey from i think they started in brooklyn or he started at sea port yeah no no no thanks sorry i'm actually i'm going to italy with uh kyle and amanda you are nice dude good for you thanks you're welcome but just to avoid new jersey but but anyway the whole crew arrives and you know they're all stoked for carl again we already went through their trepidations about this business plan but they're just happy that he's doing it i didn't think it was fair to compare this venture to dj kyle like that's not the same thing do you think

it no no it's not but like i liked the i liked the comment i thought it was very funny yeah it landed it did land i was just like i was like that's a little bit different the whole thing about it though is i know i'm sure you've seen it that he's crowdfunding for the extra money which uh definitely fucking sucks oh you didn't see that so he said in this episode that he put in a hundred k of his own money he has a partner so you have to imagine that the partner somewhere up there as well um oh by the way this is just a little sidebar did you see jason jason there remember him i did yeah yeah last time we saw him was dangarcel yeah carcel he was we also there's all this shit going on jasmine and cyrusel um not carcel um joselle yeah

Yeah, and we had Jasmine and Silas are still together. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. From Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard, that not enough of you watched. It was a great show, and now it's gone. That sucks, but Silas sucks, too. It's all your fault. Yeah. Not blame them.

But, yeah, the whole thing with the crowdfunding, he's trying to raise the extra $1.2 million to do it. Or he was anyway, at least in the last a couple of weeks. So I don't think, I mean, they have the lease according to watch what happens live or whatever he did it on. They have the lease. They have a location, but they still need a lot more money. It's people are like, you've been on reality TV for so long. How do you not have the money? Well, that's not really how that works.

I mean, he's been on reality TV for like 10 years. He lives in a $20,000 a month apartment. And he was even paying for that apartment when he didn't live there. So, yeah. Yeah. Plus he had to buy that bed that Lindsay conceived her baby on. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had to hear about that again.

Yeah. But anyway, we get Jesse, Paige, and Gabby. and they're talking about Lexi and he's he's completely trying to act like nothing happened last weekend you again the body language tells everything you need to know he knows that he fucked up and he knows that she's going to be pissed and he's trying to act like nothing happened everything's cool so the first thing he says is like you know we're official it's exclusive and they're like well do you want that i i believed him here kind of yeah i do i think i'm ready for it. And that goes back to what I said earlier. He wants to be this guy. He's not this guy. He's not

there yet. He wants very badly to be it. What he's not getting and what's so important about this, it's not fair to Lexi for you to test out whether or not you're ready to be a boyfriend. Because she's ready for something serious. She's made it very, very extraordinarily clear to you since almost day one. So to do this, to test the waters of whether or not you're ready to date, is extremely unfair to her and he's not seeing that side of it he's thinking about himself here just like he was last weekend and it's not fair to her i just yeah it's just tough to even say something like that where you're talking about like i think i'm ready for something like this i think this is what i want she's not the girl to do it with based off of what she's been telling you you should

have immediately thought to yourself if you're if you're able to articulate that now saying you know what I think this is what I want. I think I'm ready to be a good boyfriend. You should be able to identify, okay, but she's ready for something immediately serious, which, you know, is fine, whatever, if she wants somebody and they're going to be able to match her energy. That's not you, bro. It's just not.

You want somebody to take it slow with. Maybe you're exclusive after like two, three months. Maybe you start to figure it out. Maybe then your boyfriend and girlfriend. Maybe then you start talking about something down the road if you're comfortable. But if you're still trying to figure this out, that's not the girl to do it with. No, because she told you what. she's looking for. She's very clear about it. You're still in the I think I'm ready for this.

So that means you're not ready for this. Yeah. Especially when you followed up with no guy is going to be like I'm ready to hook up with one person. That's what it is dude. That's when you find your person. You don't want to hook up with other people. That's literally what it is. You don't ask. So don't do this. All that's going to happen is exactly what happened to West. But this time it's going to be you and he doesn't understand that and it's it's really frustrating but they asked the question that we're all thinking since there was that timeline of once we're exclusive we can have sex do you want to date so you can boink and he's like like did you already he's like i don't kiss and tell yes yeah i did yeah 30 seconds later yeah yeah fine so you do kiss and tell yeah you just

did. So you're a liar again. But it cuts to Imrule and Bailey real quick for Bailey's big moment. And Imruel's talking about the threesome and the toes suck. And then I think he realized once he said it, he's like, oh shit. Because he's like, but it was like playfully, you know, it was like totally playfully. Like, wasn't that big deal. The whole thing with Imral bringing this up, he's not who I thought he was.

No, I feel like something like that would have like. His stock's going down. Yeah, his stock is definitely going down. because something like that to the emerald that I knew would have just rolled off his back and he probably would have forgotten about it within a couple of days and not brought it up. But it sounds like he was trying to figure out a way to bring it up to other people.

And he kept talking about like, yeah, you know, maybe I should have like brought it up to Jesse on that Sunday. Yeah, probably should have. Once you wait a couple of days, it does look like you're bringing it up to cause some chaos, which by the way, hand up, I'm cool with because she needed to find out

because we need to see this. But if you're doing that, you're not the guy that I thought you were. So now your stock's kind of dip it a little bit, bro. 100%. But it gets back to Jesse, Page, and Gabby, and they're like, well, did you tell Sierra that you're exclusive? And he realizes that, like, everybody knows everything. And you can see, he's like, why would you ask that? Like, what do you mean by that?

It's like, you know exactly what she means because you're sweating now. Now you're starting to sweat because you know that the jig's up. And Paige is like, last week. weekend, if Lexi was there, she would have cut your balls off. And the fact that he doesn't understand that, they're like, you were acting crazy, dude. Like the flirting with Sierra was way over the top. He's like, well, what does she say? I'm like, nothing, but everybody has eyes.

We watch this whole thing happen. But you get Carl's, I think he's just slowly realizing now that his actions are under scrutiny because he's with Lexi, because everybody's thinking, oh, this is a much different Jesse that when we've seen last week or the week before when Lexi was here, it was all over her. We know where that is because he's constantly talking about the beginnings of a relationship with Lexi, all of the things that she's up front about. Everybody in the house knows what's going on and how she feels.

So you can't just move around like Jesse Solomon like did last year and start flirting with every single girl there, start doing this. Like, yeah, you go to your confessionals and you talk about how you got to try to like keep your head up and you just miss Lexi the whole time. You don't really know how to be at a party with a bunch of hot chicks around and being able to talk to them freely. You're still doing it. You're just honing in on one person and thinking you're being sleuthy, but you're not. We all know what you're doing.

And I like the timing because you just became official with Lexi. You're calling her your girlfriend. And now all of this is starting to crumble. Now you're starting to realize like, fuck, there's so many more things on the line here. Yeah, but you put yourself there. Yep. Shouldn't have done it. and then once you did it, you should have copped to it.

You could have avoided all of this. And now it's going to be as bad as it can be because you actively avoided it, even when you realize as you're talking to Bailey and Sierra and Bailey brings up, heard you got your toe sucked. He goes, it was casual. Who the fuck sucks a toe casually? When you're in a room at two in the morning drunk in a threesome scenario turned into a potential foursome scenario, but it was just a point.

I will shame that king. I will shame that kink. I will shame that one because that doesn't make sense. Casually sucking a toe is bizarre behavior. If you say I'm sexually sucking a toe, fine. Okay, do you? Sure, go for it. Don't tell me you're casually doing it because now you're a weirdo.

Good point, actually. Once it's casual, it's no longer a kink. Now it's weird. Yeah, so we don't, we're not shaming it. So now it's just weird. That's just weird behavior. That's good logic. Well done.

Appreciate that. Bailey asks, does Lexi know? Because aren't you guys official now? And he's like, no, it doesn't really answer the question. And the biggest point that multiple people make throughout this episode, we see it a lot at the kickball game. You wouldn't be cool with Lexi getting her toe sucked by some dude. So you doing it is not okay either. That's the best sticking point that everybody's made.

And his confessional is, I thought Imrule was cool. Don't do that. Don't say that because you're not. you're saying i'm not upset that i did something dumb i'm upset because i got caught well that was the question on watch what happens live too did immoral break the guy code and carl said yeah i think he did i think again if he had just said it casually like the toe suck was very casual he said it casually a day or two after no he's not breaking the guy code he's just thinking it's a big joke jesse's putting it out there as a big joke the problem is emerald didn't really break guy code

because everybody fucking knew it happened. Every single person in that house knew it happens because he told West, Carl found out, Gabby found out that he was in there the next morning. So everybody was finding out about this whole thing. So no,

he didn't break guy code. He just brought it back up and now it's going to get back to Lexi faster. So that's why Jesse's upset about it. I do have one thing to point out here. It's just a question. I would love to hear what our members have to think about it because Stella says guy code gives me the ick.

Does girl code give me the ick? that's my question debate in the comments but anyway let's get back it's i think the connotation for guy code is is covering up for cheating yes covering up for cheating that's like the only type of i code ever comes in that is icky by the way you're correct yeah yeah that part's icky uh that part super yeah i'm trying to think of like a good bro code is when your bro is going through something serious and is emotional and vulnerable and you don't share it with anybody else that's good brocode. Yeah.

How about that? I don't know. Yeah, I guess, yeah. Okay. Or if you kill somebody, I help you hide the body. Brocode. You make me an accomplice.

You know you would call me first. You would pick up truck, of course. I know you got some shovels down of that basement. They're in my shed, but I do. Yeah. But I was floored. And again, it shows you the heads.

space jesse's in in feeling that he has done something wrong because he immediately brings up sierra he's like and everyone's saying that i'm flirting with sierra i'm like you're telling bailey that like what the fuck and only after telling bailey that and realizing that she didn't know about it and now you're like fuck i'm going to get caught again then you go oh i got to tell lexie to to make sure that she hears it from me because if it comes from somebody else it could be taken out of context and go poorly it's like no you realize you just fucked up again you're going to get caught again. You're going to get ahead of this one, but not the toe suck.

Okay, great idea. That's why immediately after we see him texting Lexi, and obviously we can go to the scene after, but we do have to talk about Gabby for a second. But we can go to the Lexi scene where she's modeling, and not a lot happens there, but she gets the real-time text from Jesse and goes right to a confessional talking about how,

yeah, Sierra and Jesse, like, they're basically just like brother and sister. But now people are talking about them flirting, and I've never seen it in front of me, Does that mean it's just happening behind my back? Are there more questions out there? He's literally texting her at this second while we're watching these two scenes about this to try to get ahead of it.

That's more shitty guy behavior. Yep, 100%. But we get to Lexi, who's at a photo shoot, and we learn more about her business. And she got rid of her entire management team and her mom and her sister took over. And, you know, mixing family with business, it can be bad. But business has never been better, had her best year. with her a momager and her sister jure. So

she's happy and she's getting some new shots for her portfolio. I'm not really sure how that works but in the middle of it as she's like you can't make it up. And you think you can because it's reality TV and things get produced. She's wearing Jesse's

briefs, his lucky underwear. Yeah. And he gets she gets this text from him about Sierra and the flirting. And the worst part is I thought they were like brother and sister. At no point was I ever concerned about Jesse and Sierra. And now she has to be because of Jesse.

So now he's also put Sierra in a bad spot not to fully vindicate her, though, because she was being flirty back to him. She was giving them back. And, you know, that wasn't cool either because you're in the house. That's girl code, by the way. Can't break girl code. You know that the two of them are romantically entwined. Don't be flirted back.

You shouldn't be flurring back with somebody else. that lives in the house. Not two girls. That's bad girl code. Yeah. 100%. Now we've established good guy code, bad guy code. Good girl code we already know about because we talk about it all the time.

Thanks Kyle Richards. And also bad girl code with Kyle Richards. So she's great. Yeah. She's like kind of write the whole book on it. Just the gold standard for bad girl code. Yeah, there you go. But the big thing to look at is how he behaves when Lexi is.

is there and how he behaved the one weekend that she was not and that's what people keep pointing out because he's never done that shit around her or lexie even says that she's like i've never seen him flirt when i've been there so now she has even more questions in her head what the hell's going on when i'm not with him not just not with him at the summer house when i'm not with jesse what is he doing because this is a completely different guy that's why this whole thing is so fucked up but we get to lill and gabby and gabby's fishing for the timeline a little bit here because she asks they're talking about the soccer game and when they met and i think the word summer's thrown out there so gabby ears perk up a little bit

summer was thrown out there because gabby brought it up thank you that's who started it leaves it was she leads it lill and i know you know we've all seen i'm sure everybody that's on this right now all of our members have seen this too that there is a post from lill showing that it happened in October. October 21st. But Lil did double down again twice in this conversation and say, yeah, it was last summer. Because Emerald then asks, did it happen last summer? So you guys have known each other for like a year?

And she goes, yep, it's July. So that's a year. It's like nine months, really. But she's not doing herself any favors with that. So this is why Steele and I had a conversation about this off screen via text. He is, why don't you say your piece about Gabby? because I get your piece and I fully understand it, but I don't really care about it on a show like this as much.

I agree with you. It does. It's a little bit different than like a housewife show. But my issue with this and with Gabby, because the one thing, when she leads with the summer, you've known him since this, like last summer.

And she answers, yeah? It was yeah. Infliction, question mark. I was like, that's not really an answer. And then Imreel tries to, I don't know if he's trying to save the situation.

He's like, like the soccer games, the summer. And she was like, yeah. there wasn't enough due diligence there to make a firm decision on whether or not they had started DMing while he was still with Lindsay. That was my first issue. To take that, to take the little bit there and then run with it that, oh, he was texting other women while you guys were engaged is a pretty big jump, I thought.

And the second part is when Gabby's had her own moments on this show and when she's doing her thing, like, she's good for the show. She has a spot on this show. But for the last two seasons, I just feel like she's Lindsay's pal. Like she speaks for Lindsay. Like she goes to bat for Lindsay. It's like, I want to know about Gabby. I don't really give a phone what your relationship is with Lindsay. Yeah.

And she started off this season talking about how, you know, I'm not going to be as bogged down by the house as much anymore. I'm not going to go out with all of these people all the time. I'm going to have my own little sneaky links over here. I'm going to go ahead. And I'm going to stay outside the house. And we're like, right, good for you, Gabby. Maybe something will come about that. it hasn't you just immediately went right back to the backgrounds you're a background character but again on a show like this and you already said it on a housewife show if one of the housewives is doing this shit we're gonna yell at them and tell them to do something stand up and do something if it's another situation where somebody's on a show like this or southern charm or whatever like when we saw this happen to benita you're sharing a lot of your storyline but they're not showing as much bad stocks gabby's not showing anything she's just being lindsay's pal so in the midst of all of this

sitting there and just trying to get the dirt to go back to Lindsay about. I just got an inkling that the two of them are still talking about it, where you and I talked about this a while ago. Shouldn't, look, I love that Lindsay got to pop off this episode, and we'll talk about that in a second. But shouldn't Lindsay not give a fuck? Like, come on. Like, he's pregnant with another dude's kid.

You would think that at this point they'd be on. Let's, yeah, so let's, let's, we're going right to that, aren't we? With Wes setting up for the soft, or for the kickball anyway, with Lindsay and them talking. Yeah, we are. before we do though my one thing is like devil's advocate she's pushing the drama like i don't have a problem with that i don't have a problem with it's the same thing as emerald talking about the to sock correct so it's not like but again like immoral stock has gone down because he doesn't have like his own he doesn't do shit he's just the guy that bangs people and like that was funny and we said that

episode one this stick could get old really fast if he's one dimensional we'll see it's still early like still early in this i mean we're getting close to halfway actually so he should hopefully pick it up a little bit. But I don't have an issue with Gabby. Like, I think Gabby's good for the show. I just want Gabby to do her own thing. And maybe she is, and they're cutting it. Like production can fuck people over.

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The twisted tale of Amanda Knox is now streaming only on Disney Plus. We do. We go straight to kickball. And the whole goal seems to be to get Sierra to be cool with West. We're all going to go play kickball together so that we're okay. The entire goal of all of this. Which is hysterical.

But I think it's objectively, it's very funny that West is going to organize all of this. And we're even going to get a little flashback. We were all in a kickball league last year. and they showed up in the fall and it's just really cool and adverbal that Paige and Sierra show up and they really turn it on when it comes into getting into sports and I just really love that.

We all know what you're doing. You're hoping that Sierra jumps in here because you're trying to remind her of how good times were and you guys can be friends and you're going to organize this and maybe she's going to say thank you. He even said like maybe if you know

she's playing second base and I get to play first, she's going to have to throw the ball to me. She gets the ground ball. She's going to have to throw it over to me. That'll be cool. That's what you're going. for now. Yeah.

We, we started off the summer. You got no fucking hug. You got your arm slapped away. She's not talking to you. She's not even looking at you. You're now settling for potentially throwing a ball over to you. That's what you're going to do.

That's incredible. Just absolutely incredible work by West. Hey, whatever it takes to be cool with her again. But we get to Lindsay and Gabby. And she's like, what was that thing you went to in Jersey or whatever with that, whatever that was.

And, you know, there are reasons for not going. This scene just tells you she's not over it yet. And there's not like, just because she's pregnant with another man's kid doesn't mean that she has to be entirely over the situation. I understand that they were engaged. It's a friendship. It was dating. It was, it's a saga.

So I get it. But she seemed to be over it. That's why when this seat happened, I was like, oh, she's not, she's still got some, some gas left in the tank. She's got a lot of fire going forth, Carl, there. And I, and the way that. I want to look at this. I'm going to look at it in two different ways. One way is reality TV and I don't really care. I'm happy that Lindsay's activated. It's been so long since we've seen her. She's just

been so nice and normal the whole time. We were very shocked that her and Carl were just cool and cordial and she was nice. But seeing her get activated is awesome. I love watching Lindsay get activated. Need her on Roney. Just absolutely need her on Roney. She's got to go. That's for her trajectory is going. And I know that, you know, that's kind of gotten some steam. And I think people have even brought up her. She met with Andy. She met with Andy about it. Yeah. And she's not saying no. So I really hope that that's what happens. Now on the other hand, that show up. On the other hand. Why the fuck do we care if Carl was potentially DMing a girl right before they broke off their engagement? You ended up living in an apartment that he paid for

for multiple months, then got pregnant on the bed that you guys bought together that probably bought you're now six months pregnant or whatever the fuck you are having a baby with some guy that you love that we're not seeing because he is a really nice guy that just doesn't want to be on TV and everybody seems to respect him move on with your life what are you doing lady like are you fucking nuts that we're sitting here talking and speculating about when he started talking to some weird girl that makes her own clothing who gives a shit carl's opening a soft bar you hate that idea lill's over here you hate her you think they started talking before you guys broke up you're fucking pregnant lady enough like just move on so i talked to dev about

this we got we got into a debate actually about this uh which is hysterical um but i had a similar sentiment and after i talked to i'm like okay it's it's similar to the gabby thing it's like yeah sure but entertaining good for the show and also shows you where she's still at that she still does have some feelings about this whole thing and how it went so after the that conversation. I was like, all right, I can see both sides of it because I do agree with you where it's like, all right, it's time to move on. There's not a whole lot of evidence here, especially when you're evident. And the way that she said it to, she's like, I woke up. I went into his room to give him a hug. I'm like, not a great start. You guys are already done.

Like your fucking relationships over. You lived in separate rooms. You got to remind us that you guys lived in separate rooms two months before you're winning yep yeah so you guys were you guys were toast you started out with that and then you you talk about this DM and they swiped out of it and there was a phone number on it my issue with that is it was so heated last year one and two it would have came up no somebody would have brought that up if she had seen that and like we're at the reunion last year and like all that shit's going on with the fallout that came from this that would have been discussed in my opinion that would have came up at some point or another imagine but she takes it and runs with it and she's like i've been putting this whole

thing together one morning i went to his room to give him a hug and i saw the dm he swiped out of it meanwhile he's like oh i'm such a victim woe is me and blah blah blah and here's the other if if i was uh i always forget who her guy's name is but whatever If I was the dad of Lindsay's baby, and I'm watching this, and she's getting this upset over Carl potentially talking or DMing a girl last summer and she's pregnant with my kid, that's a huge fucking red flag. Just a massive red flag. And I know people, I saw somebody in the comments here said, you know, everybody would be upset if you found out about this, about an ex. There's, they're an ex for a reason. Like, they're not getting back together.

I don't think she's not allowed to, she's allowed to feel some type of way. Sure, but she was enraged. And when she said, I've been putting together the pieces, that sounds like an active investigation. That was funny. Just enough. No, no, again, that's why I said the first part where I'm like, I love that Lindsay got activated because it is very fun to watch. And I always root for her in a weird way. But it's hard not to.

In a real standpoint, like, what are you doing? Yeah. And she fucking leans into him. She's like, he's a fraud. He's a phony. He's a liar. and add cheater to the resume. I was like, Jesus, this devolved quickly.

But Gabby spills the tea to Paige and Lindsay about the toe sucking or the little stuff. Like, not the toe sucking. She talks about the little stuff, right? No. Yeah. No. No. She brings up everything. That's right. She brings up everything.

And then over at the boys, Em rule spills the toe tea as I wrote down, which now that I see it out loud is gross. Totee should never be a thing. That's gross. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that. I'm sorry, guys. There's no benefits to TOTI. But it's so funny to me, nice, full circle moment. Good job. Thank you. That as the girls are talking, and it's so funny how the game of telephone works, because Lindsay wasn't there that weekend. Lindsay brings up to Jesse, or brings up to

the girls, I found out Jesse wanted to watch a threesome. It's like, you can't say no. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know if that's like exactly what was happening. I don't know if that's like exactly what was happening but it's just funny that it went from i'm just going to go check out what they're doing to he wanted to go in there and watch it's like oh god what was he up to and he got his toe sucked bailey throws it in there lexie is floored because she's like whoa whoa whoa he got his toe sucked like he left that part out and that's the worst part about him she left all of that out the fact that he tried to cover his tracks on the flirting with sierra but left this out shows you that he is guilty as fuck he feels like an idiot he knows he messed up he was trying to

get around it and the worst part is when she confronts him about it later it was a joke it's like you don't get to say that because you did something inappropriate that's not a good defense i was making a funny no it's just it's not and i mean look we can talk about the the actual kickball game that was kind of fun to watch maybe want to play some kickball But I feel like the whole thing really just goes right back to Jesse and Lexi getting through all of this. Obviously, West completely butt hurt that Sierra didn't show up. Very upset that Sierra didn't show up. He even made her a shirt.

It's somebody's mommy or something on it. I don't know. I guess she has a cat or a dog or something. Gaspers'or's mommy, I believe it was. And that's her cat. Yeah, okay. There we go. Thank you.

But it goes right back to Jesse and Lexi because there's tension in the air and we're figuring this whole thing out. Jesse doesn't know how to handle this he's freaking out immediately all of his world is just crumbling down and this is exactly what he needs to understand you can't do this type of shit I hated the way that he handled this it was atrocious bro

the fucking the worst thing that he could have done was Lexi once again being very transparent talking about her feelings this kind of crushed me I feel like my heart hurts Do you understand where I'm coming from? Do you understand my feelings? He goes, sure. Sure.

Like, are you nuts? Sure. Come on, man. Just fucking eat grow. You have to, you have no other choice here, but to just eat shit. Because lo and behold, we've got footage. There's going to be more questions. 37 minutes is absolutely going to come back.

We've got a reunion coming up. They're probably going to film that in the next couple of weeks. How do you think that's going to go? this is your opportunity to do what West didn't do and get ahead of it. Just apologize your ass off. Hope that she's cool with it. And you can get out of this relatively unscathed. Yeah, you'll be okay.

What laurels are you resting on? Do you think this was a good idea at all? No, it's just, it's insane to me. The way that people operate and typically douchebags operate, it's like, what do you think you're getting away with? There's nothing more that you can do here. You just watched in a matter of, what, five, days all of this got out you flirting with sierra which she hasn't really brought up yet you

get in your toes sucked you barging in the emerald's room all of this came out within a couple of days there's nothing you can do you can't spin this narrative anymore you just have to accept the feet and he's not accepting it and i'm like what are you doing no dude it was it was tough like the one highlight from there's two highlights from the softball game page game ending catch and west diving for the ball in the outfield really resonated with me because that's how i intermural sports and I end up hurting myself. Absolutely. I don't have a, you get it.

I don't have like a 50%. It's 100%. His dive, his dive immediately was negated by jumping to catch a ball that was like Yeah, yeah, the unnecessary jump. Yep, it took it took it all the way.

But the other thing that happened during that game was Lexi was talking to Lindsay and, you know, I think trying to seek comfort and be like, well, he told me about the Sierra flirting thing. And Lindsay's like, yeah yeah i heard that too and she's like oh you did like yeah she's like yeah everyone kind of has been talking about that i heard that he told her it would have been different if i met you

before west which has got to be a fucking dagger especially earlier she had said like all week he was the boyfriend from heaven i felt so safe and now i feel icky and like that's the problem and that's what he doesn't fucking understand is like your dumb actions because you're joking have real effects on people and somebody that's very innocent and very open and transparent is she coming on really strong yeah but she's unapologetically doing so so you can't blame her for it you know where she stands so to enter this conversation and start off with it was a non thing the toe suck was funny i'm so glad the way she handled herself during this conversation was really fucking impressive it was really impressive and i love that she didn't even

go after the toe thing she just sidestepped and goes what about telling us telling Sierra that if you had a chance first, it would have turned out differently. And he was like, oh, deer in headlights, what? He was like, well, that's not what I said. And again, it was paraphrasing a bit, but that is what you were saying. It is what you said. It is exactly what you implied. And also, if you had said that to her and in that moment, she reciprocated, you would have

100% hooked up with her. No doubt. No one doubts that at all. So don't act like it was some joke because you have a brother, sister, friend. that's just a guise for you to be flirty with somebody you're attracted to with no repercussions. But now the repercussions are coming because you overstepped the line. When she says, that may not have been what you said, but that's how everybody received it. So it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter that your intentions may not have been that because what you said made everyone else believe that this is what you were implying and that's a fucking problem because I would never say that to West. I would never say that to Carl because that would be really inappropriate. and you would fucking hate that it was more of a joke it's not funny it's not a joke you got caught and you're trying to not have to take any kind of heat for it you're no well we know we know what he's going to do this he's going to do all of this say that everything's a joke and he's going to try to like circle back to the instagram comments he's going to try to circle back to just who he is

and that's what he's going to rest on he's going to come away from all of this saying you know what i should have just seen it you know we were moving way too fast it was just you know she just wasn't allowing me to be me you know what i mean like i need to find a girl that's going to allow me to be me you know maybe in an open relationship somebody's going to allow you to be you you can go ahead and flirt with whoever you want you can try to test the uh test the water so to speak on any girl that you want any girl hang out with him rule missed connection yeah go to a sex party with em rule but she's not doing that so you can't get away with this not everything can just be a joke at this point because it wasn't a joke when you were doing

it we know what we were doing we know damn well especially as like two dudes like we we know what you're doing it's fucking obvious as shit too you're putting it like we said earlier it's feelers and you you hide behind the friendship so that if she doesn't reciprocate you'd be like ah you know you know how we are but if she leans into it you're like wait a minute that's what you're doing but then when the weekend ends and reality hits again you're like oh fuck lexie now you turn into boyfriend of the year bringing flowers saying all these nice things getting exclusive after you left a weekend of doing what you did now her memory of you two finally getting together is going to be overshadowed by what it was following that's what you did that's who you

are and that shows you're not ready for a fucking relationship and she finishes this whole thing perfectly because after she asks him do you get how that would mess with my trust and he hits her with a sure she goes it's strange you didn't tell me for starters it's strange you told me about sierra but not about the toe it's embarrassing that you did these things i would never put you in that spot and his response is you know it's an adjustment for me i am really sorry but i i won't do it again and like you know i'm really sorry man it's like now you are but you just hit her with a sure 30 seconds ago and you this poor girl's heart hurts she says my heart hurts and that's your fault because you're a bad for her i do too

she's like she does she have her quirks sure but she's her and i appreciate that i'm always down for people that are 100% themselves even if they're a little different i think that's awesome and i think that she's open like there's no question marks you know so for him to go into this whole thing and act like, well, you're not letting me be me. Like, you're totally correct on that one. That's his whole defense. And if this goes south, he's going to be like, she was too controlling. She wanted too much from me.

She was trying to change me. It's like, no, she was trying to get you to not be a fuck boy anymore. And you're not ready to do that. Or instead, you've floored this poor girl. I can, I can theorize now that it'll probably be more along the lines because that'll be too apparent. That'll be too easy of a move for him to do that. It'll be, she was a really nice girl.

she just wasn't for me or she was a really nice girl i just wasn't ready that'll be the thing and that'll be in his own way taking accountability but that's really what he's going to say he's not going to actually take the accountability and be like yeah i was an absolute shithead was pretty much just love bombing this girl because at some point i was like it's not really love bombing you seem to be infatuated now i'm just like this is full um love bombing the flowers after all of that is full love bombing and it's the only love bombing that you can really get

after you cheat on your girlfriend show up with some flowers take her out to dinner make her feel like the best person in the world and then hope that it doesn't get back to her guess what there's cameras everywhere and these people live for drama

they're gonna bring it right to her doorstep so you're fucked no matter what you do and all those nice things that you did that week are now gross to her gone because she realizes why you did them so oh it's gonna get ugly for old Jesse Solomon And I also think Sierra is going to catch astray here.

And, you know, again, she leaned into it, but she is going to be a casualty of this whole thing, I believe, which is unfortunate. But, uh, let's get to some questions from our members. It's a 10 second delay. So we'll just sit here and hang out while you guys think of your questions and fire away when ready. And yes, I did get this water from my water cooler in this room right behind me. It's wonderful. Hell, yeah. There's nothing better than drinking from glass bottles, one,

and from a water cooler and glass bottles. It's just the best. It's the pinnacle. I've made it. I don't need anything else. The only way to do it. What I love about this episode is our comment section has been talking to each other the entire time, which I love to see.

They're not even asking questions. They're still talking to each other, which that's fine. Carry on. Yeah, do your thing. Who do you think we win the fire cup candy? I just saw fight from Candy. Who do you think would win the fight between Sierra and Lexi? I am going to opt out of making that a physical fight

and say that they would be fighting for Jesse Solomon's love. Neither. I think that what? You want me to do the physical fight? I mean, yeah. Okay, probably Sierra. I don't know. Lexi seems scrappy. I don't know.

I'm not going to answer. Oh, well, I, fuck you. For Ryan Stoneman, if Lindsay leaves for Roney, who will carry the show, maybe some MV cast come over. I would love for the Martha's Vineyard cast to get involved. I would love for them to be back on our screens. I thought they got the shaft. That was a good show.

And if you are bored and need something to watch, go back and watch it. It's only two seasons, but it is good. I would love for them to fill in. I don't know if they'll do that. If Lucy leaves who will carry the show. So, um, you just got to get younger people in there. You got to get new people. He doesn't currently carry the show anyway.

She's been on two episodes, Ryan. Yeah. Yeah. So. So yeah. I don't, I don't have an answer for you. Ryan's become like infamous in these chats, by the way.

People come in. Ryan here yet. You're a villain, Ryan. Well done. Not to us. We love you. Love hate, but mostly love. from Deirdre.

Do you think West looks a little like a 90s Abercrombie wears Waldo? That's I like his fashion sense. I'm not going to lie. He's getting a lot of shit for it and he's leaning into it in a funny way and that's the only thing you can do.

Yeah, I actually like it. But, oh, here you go. Who's Sabrina Carpenter? So I don't have to Google. She's one of the most famous like recording artists in the world right now. But that's okay. that's okay parents get mad at her shows because they take their kids to them and she wears lingerie and stuff and they know that she does this and then they take their kids and they still get pissed off about it which is the stupidest thing she's like a sexual position is like the main point of all of her shows during juno and although she didn't do it in um fuck

i was like Copenhagen or something the other day and people were pissed off but it was just the april fool's joke guys yeah but also like you know what she does at her shows so if you take a kid and then you're like what the fuck it's like you took the kid you know what's happening uh hold on we got one here uh from zoe is emerald stick of having a lot of sex going to get old yeah it's already old it's already old yeah yeah if he was like i said if he wasn't one dimensional if that wasn't all he's offering to the show currently then no it would probably just be like a thing he does but that's literally it he was too tired to even contribute at the pool because he was up all night boinkin so yeah oh i'll watch what happens a lot Carl said, I'm surprised that the camera didn't catch any of that, because what they do is when you throw a sheet on there, you can look over and see the camera going up and down and up and down and left and right, trying to get the sheet off. How fucked is that?

The producers are- What? Yeah. It's got to be like a lot. Carl said that, and then Andy goes, wait, that's fucking insane. Could you imagine having sex and then looking up and seeing the camera go like this? you probably wouldn't be able to perform that well so andy didn't know that that is bizarre to me that that is known out there i didn't like it at all i don't like that i feel like that that's

like breaking some kind of law yeah yeah you can't be allowed to do that's like voyeur at all we'll do two more uh max v should craig show up on the summerhouse reunion no no we know we know we know we know did page show up on the southern farm reunion no yeah you know i see which i I get it, Max, but I don't think we need that. There we go. Suzanne said, you're not old because we keep talking about being old. I know. I feel old.

I've lived a long life for a 34-year-old. I'm just tired, but you're right. Thank you. That's nice. From Stella, do you think Kyle and Amanda will ever grow out of Summerhouse and grow up, especially if they're talking about putting off kids? Do we think they are subconsciously doing that because of the show? Kyle might be.

um yeah although it seems like Amanda's the one who's kind of driving that conversation and that's it's kind of similar to page and Craig where Amanda's finding a purpose of her own chasing a dream and now Kyle's finally sitting down saying yeah you know we should start out talking about having some kids and it's like well I'm not ready for it so I mean eventually yes they are going to be too old for the show but um I don't know I just I can't and I like you know love them or hate them i can't see summer house without kyle without kyle i know you know it just is what it is like yeah i know people don't like them but it's it's hard to picture like if you don't have kyle and amanda then you i mean i i feel like we're getting to the point

where you almost have to recast and like you can have a show with these dudes and these ladies in the house currently but like new york centric like what they're doing with their daily lives that would work i enjoy the scenes in new york city but i don't think i don't think getting rid of him solo is the answer i just i think that eventually you got a you got to get a new guard in there but not yet i don't know that's a tough question and thank you all for coming out as always i really appreciate it we both appreciate it the fact that you support us the way you do and come listen to us talk shit for an hour and a half means the world so thanks for coming out and uh next tuesday 9 p.m. is our community

Zoom where we just get to shoot the shit for a while, right? Nine. God damn it. I might want to do a. Damn it. Beverly Hills. We'll put it out. We'll just put it out.

We'll put it out. We'll look it up. Yeah. We'll look it up and we'll put it out. That's what we'll do. Yeah. We'll do that. Don't worry.

But, uh, yeah, you got anything else? Nope. All good here. That's our show. Bro's got to go. Just be cool till it stops streaming, guys. Oh, I got to hit the button again. Be cool, man.

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