Bros & Shows - WHY IS JOHN JANNSEN GETTING CONFESSIONALS?!? (RHOC Full Recap)

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

What's up Bros?! OC is continuing its run as a great season. In this episode, Shannon gets ready to invite the crew on the cast trip to London. Heather still has an issue with Emily and now has a problem with Gina for leaving with Emily. Despite the fact that all Emily wants is for Heather to LISTEN and LEARN about why she was upset. Shannon has reached a point with Alexis and Johnny J where she wants to move on and leave them in the dust. Ryan attempts to explain his Vegas trips (unsuccesfully). Jenn has had it with Tamra despite us seeing the classic Tamra backpedal with fake apologies. Emily and Heather sit down to chat (on Heather's terms... shocker) and Heather finally listens to why the fashion show was so triggering. It's almost like this could've been resolved sooner if Heather didn't get so defensive all the time. After revealing the cast trip at her 60th birthday celebration, Shannon recieves flowers with a literal olive branch from Alexis. Despite this outrageous last ditch effort to claw her way on to the cast trip, Shannon has had it and types up a text to tell Alexis she will not be attending. The group has mixed reactions saying the text is 'too tough'... We didn't think it was tough enough after all the shit her and Johnny J put her through. The episode ends with Alexis putting on the performance of a lifetime as Jenn and Katie let her know she is not invited to London. Then we get the confessional nobody asked for, John and Alexis... Kick rocks guys, nobody cares about you. Want more access to the Bros? Join BravBros Members to get exclusive weekly episodes, newsletters, monthly face to face zooms with us and more! Click the link below to sign up! thebros.memberful.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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evening everybody welcome back to another episode of brav bros your favorite podcast from the bros for everybody for whoever wants to listen. I am your co-host, Neil Russell, joined as always by the probably very sad Shooter Magouter. What's up, dude? Yeah, definitely not too happy.

We're recording this after game three of the Philly series. Well, I don't want to talk about the Phillies. I want to talk about something that happened on my walk back. So walking back from the bar to my apartment to have a little bit of food, get ready for the recording session,

me and my buddy were walking by somebody walked by and pointed at two of us and go only in philadelphia am i right don't know what that meant no idea what that meant but what it did was distract us because we were just talking about the phillies and their collapse or that's a lack thereof honestly they they would have had to do something to collapse and it confused me for the rest of the walk and i honestly at the time wanted to go back and be like what you mean by that But now that I'm thinking back, it distracted me for a long time. So it took my mind off of it. So I'm actually okay right now.

That's good. I am very fortunate that I have my little baby to keep me occupied. And as things were falling apart on TV, I was burping her. And I'm just like, you know what? I'm just going to look at my little girl because she's so sweet and precious. I'm not going to look at this disaster on this TV screen because I hate this team. We're not talking about it. We're not talking about it.

We're here to talk about Rosie, a little orange-county. Yeah. We don't need to talk about anything else. Let's just talk about this episode. This is a great season of TV. We've been saying it this whole time. They are delivering week after week after week. You could beg the question, should they get rid of Tamara?

I don't know. I don't think a lot of people are clamoring for it just based on like some of her nonsense this season. And I guess she is dated in what she does and brings to the screen sometimes with the immaturity. Obviously, she needs to stop playing in the mud all of the time and stop going for jugglers. I don't think she's capable of it. But that being said,

you can't deny that this season has hit, like, all over the place. So that was my biggest question mark is do you just run it back with the same exact cast before we jump into this? Because we are getting towards the end of it. Yeah, no, I honestly, I think you do, but

I think towards the end of this episode, as we're recapping it, there's no way you bring Alexis back. I think Alexis knows. No, no. She goes, yeah. There's no reason to bring her back. She's out. Everybody else is fine, honestly. Like, we've talked about Katie pretty much this entire season because she's the newbie. She's the lone lady going through all of this. She has come back and she is now aligned herself with somebody that everybody now loves. Jen was a newbie last year. This year, everybody's talking about Jen. Everybody is delighted by Jen. Jen is going through so much. And while she's on screen, she's doing a great.

job. That's the main thing. She's bringing enough to the table. There's enough going on in her life. There's enough perspective being put out there. And also, she's just a really likable person. So obviously, you bring her back. Jen is now going to be potentially, look, I don't think you're going to be able to unseat Heather DeBrow as the middle orange, but you can be closer to the middle. I think Jen is now supplanted somebody towards the middle, maybe a Gina, maybe somebody along the lines. Jen is an integral figure of this show. Yeah, for sure.

And Katie has aligned herself with Jen and they're friends. And another thing that I might throw in there is Heather Rossi is making the circuit right now. She's going around. She was on Vicki's podcast. She's friends with Jen and Katie. What did I say, Heather? He said Heather. Yeah, Mom, whatever.

It's been a long day. Thanks a lot, Billy's. Gretchen Rossi has been making the circuit and she's friends with everybody. she knows this she knows what's going to happen she knows how the game works bring her back back let's go for a season against tamra because that's what next season's building up to be everybody against tamra and all the things she's doing on the show everything that she's doing on her podcast let her play defense the entire year let let's see how she likes it i don't think she's going to but it's going to be fun to watch i like that i think that's a great way to like springboard

into next year and they have done what other franchises haven't done as well, and we haven't seen it as much across the board. I mean, you've seen it with Atlanta. They brought back Fadra. You've seen some people return to the screen. They brought back Portia. But what we're going to see with this is another person coming back, i.e. Gretchen. OC's done a good job of reintroducing characters into the show to make it good again.

So I'm curious if they're going to do that. That's a great route. That seems like an easy blueprint for a solid season next. year. So I'm curious. And we're not at the end of the season yet, but you can tell we're getting there. So I just wanted to get your take on it. But let's jump into this one and it picks up at the end of the dinner that we saw. And she's still Tamara going on about the FBI, the illegal gambling. We get a great breakdown from our friend, Giorgio. Georgio says, what's up, dude? So you get to see him on screen breaking down this whole thing. We broke it down in our news recap the other day as to how

much we know about this whole situation with Ryan and the guy that he's working with, Matt. Now, as they're discussing this at the table, all I'm thinking is, if you're dealing with millions of dollars and you're a bookkeeper, are you really smart to air out that dude's dirty laundry on screen? Like, is that the best move for Ryan? No, definitely not. And you can tell that he's doing the old. I'm going to try to remove myself from this situation. a little bit and just say, yeah, he's one of my boys. Like, we go to Vegas all the time. Everybody knows that you go to Vegas all the time, like way too often for somebody

who lives way too far away from Vegas for somewhere to go. And I like the questions that were asked. You can tell the people don't really understand exactly what's going on, but they can smell that there's something in the air. There's something going on here that just doesn't really add up. Emily asking whether or not he throws parties was the first question, I think. Yeah. She doesn't, she has no fucking clue what's going on. It's really just he's there. He's bringing other people in. And I guess, which still doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me as somebody who legally gambles on the NFL, the NBA, MLB, whatever, just something like recreational, which is fun. Why do you need an illegal bookie? Why do you need somebody? I guess because they can front you a ton of money and you can then pay back later. Like you can get credit towards those things. But still, there's clearly something. up. And once again, basically the same thing as what happened last week when Ryan was trying to

explain to Matt what he did for a living. He starts explaining what was going on and it made no sense. And he was completely all around the place. Like nothing made any sense. He was all over the place. Everything that he said had nothing to do with what the question was asked. And I just didn't really understand what he was talking about. But that's obviously number one rule. Stop talking. Just don't bring it up. Like, don't explain. Don't use too many specifics because you're going to get caught.

He over explains. We saw this when he was talking to Matt about and Matt being Katie's husband, talking to him about this whole, not Todd. Todd is Bronwyn's husband. But talking about his job when he's a real estate developer. And he just keeps saying I'm a real estate developer. I's like, dude, you're making it seem sketchy. No one would have questioned it.

And if this Vegas thing came up and went, oh, that's my buddy, Matt. We go to Vegas together, period. There would still be question marks, but less question marks. The more you spin this weird narrative, everyone's like, what do you do with Matt? And he's like, we're just boys, he's my buddy, we're my friend, we go to Vegas, we're Vegas buddies. We're Vegas buddies a lot. I go to Vegas a lot. But it's with Matt, and we're friends, and we have other friends in Vegas.

Matt's one of them that we go to Vegas with. Have you guys heard of Vegas? I go, and we're friends. So, yeah, he doesn't do himself any favors

with this shit. No. Anytime he starts explaining, I'm like, you should shut up now because you're making it worse, but I don't think he has any text. So we get to check in with Shannon,

Heather and Katie. Shannon's planning her 60th birthday party. We get a little recap about the show, but she's going over the John Jansen stuff. It does seem like it's winding down a little bit until we get a confessional from Johnny J. later. So I don't know if that's foreshadowing.

It's about to get a little bit worse before it gets better i'm not entirely sure bravo needs to let us know that that's going to happen before it happens like they do disclaimers in the beginning of a lot of episodes we need a disclaimer for john jansen johnny jays on the way everybody's talking about him everybody's doing this and that and whatever we need a disclaimer in the beginning of this episode by the way john jensen's going to be in here at some point so at least we're prepared yeah that's a good point but you know it just I don't know why he's doing this, honestly. And she's talking about the People magazine thing.

He hates the cameras. That's what he claims. And now he's doing confessions with Alexis. He's going to People Magazine. Jen saying that they didn't leak the story, which I don't know what that was all about. We'll talk about that later. I just don't get it. The guy makes no fucking sense.

But I have to comment on this very quickly because I have a funny story. Gina's bedrooms are done. They look great, by the way. The kid's room is sick. Like, that would be dope to have bunk beds, a little desk area. You've got a fire pole. Now, my little sisters had a playroom. You've seen it at my house.

Oh, yeah. And they had a slide, and they had a fire pole. So you could slide down the fire pole. Now, finding a fire pole of that size wasn't that easy for my mom. So she went on eBay and found herself a fire pole. But this fire pole in particular would spin. oh my mom bought a stripper pole oh my god it was a fire pole in my sister's playroom oh my god we would make jokes and she would get so upset she's like that's not what it is

i'm like mom fire poles don't spin when you hold them like they just don't oh my god that's insane do you not know that yeah well no i've never really thought about it but yeah that's hilarious she went on ebay and found a fire pole quote unquote it was a fucking stripper pole it was new. I was going to say, hopefully it was bought new. No, it was not used. It was brand new, but it doesn't take away

from the sentiment, and I would make jokes all the time. And she wouldn't love it, but it was very funny. But they're recapping Tamara from dinner the other night, and the biggest thing that's really ringing true to me now, watching this whole

season play out, how much Tamara went after Shannon for drinking, calling her a drunk for the DUI, all of this stuff. We watched her storm out of there. as she left. And then we get comments like this from Gino. It's like she can't keep doing this because you have three martinis. And it's true. Like you want to point the finger everywhere, but you're a mess. You're an absolute mess. And I don't know if she's placating. I don't know if she's deflecting. I'm not entirely sure of what's happening with her. I think genuinely,

I think that she has lost her identity outside of this show. I think that she and the character that she portrays in the show have become one. And she doesn't know where the line stops. And that's why you get this weird, bizarre caricature out in public where it's like, who the fuck is this lady? Why are you always mean to people? Why do you point the finger? And then you're tripping out of your drunk and you're calling other people a drunk. It's just, it's honestly sad to watch at this point.

Like I get, I have a sad feeling when I see her on screen doing shit like this. I don't get mad anymore. I thought about that before. At one point, do we actually identify that as kind of sad behavior? just at this point this now we've even gotten there because the bad behavior has outweighed the sad behavior so much but i agree with you i feel like she has lost her identity i feel like she's delved so deep into whatever she wants to portray on the show and now we understand her entire like family relations and why people don't want her to be involved in the show and you

get to see eddie still sitting there with a blanket on like a battered out of the house like she's getting into the Uber and you have to have Katie come back and say, Hey, Eddie, she's leaving. Do you want to go with her? And he's like, oh, yeah, I guess I'll say bye to everybody and shake Ryan's hand after all of that and say, sorry. And then I'll leave and I'll go back with my wife. Like, it is bizarre behavior. The fact that they just let this go on and look, I'm still looking at the rest of the cast because this is going on for years. Last year we called it out a million different times. She's doing things that are just not right. And she's going after people that just don't deserve it.

And she's been doing it again this year. And now people are finally calling things out where you get to see Emily actually be logical. You get to see Gina now calling it out. And Gina's the person, the right person that needs to be calling this behavior out. So hopefully that continues because we can't let it continue. And look, there are a lot of things that Tamara does well for the show as far as the storyline goes, as far as arguments go, as far as different situations go. but this is not one of them watching her spiral like this is just not one of them so we're getting to

the point we're approaching the point where it is sad behavior and look at some point we're going to feel bad we're not there yet it's just something that we want to point out yeah it's getting close to just like oh if I pity you you know just pity at this point where wow you're just you're just lost it's not even entertaining to watch at certain points and you're just you don't know who you are you've lost yourself entirely to this show and it's sad but we jump into the Heather and Emily's stuff is coming back up with Emily being upset with how the fashion show went. But now there's a different layer because Heather is upset with Gina.

Gina left with Emily. So now she's upset at her. I was like, whoa, whoa, why? Like that wasn't a pick sides kind of thing. And by the way, as they start to break this thing down, Heather's talking to Katie and asking Katie, whose side are you on? I thought you hated Katie. Why do you care who side she's on?

Now she's starting to scramble. She just wants to put the clamps on Katie. She wants to make sure. that Katie actually answers correctly because she knows that she has the pressure on Katie. Katie did a good job of deflecting. She said, I see both sides. I understand where everybody's going to go.

She didn't actually answer Heather. It's shitty behavior by Heather. Let's just point it out right now. Yes. It's insane. Watching Emily and how upset she was, of course you want a friend to go with her. It's insane to think that a friend wouldn't go.

She's not now picking sides. This is not a pick side situation. And look, later, Heather, finally, for the love of God, gets it right. But right now, she's still stewing in her head. Like, oh, my God, she came after me, me of all people, after that fashion show, after everything that I've done for Emily. Like, no, this has nothing to do with you. Like, you can't get out of your own way.

And now you're going to go after Gina for this. And obviously, there's some residual effect from the things that have happened in the last couple of weeks with Gina. Maybe she's questioning the whole real estate connections thing that Katie brought up. There's a lot that goes into it for sure. sure, but you watch Heather in real time, it makes no sense. And then immediately putting Katie into it and saying, what do you think about this is manipulative? Because you know that you have Katie on the ropes.

You know that maybe Katie feels bad and she's not in your good graces. So maybe she'll answer the way that you want her to answer so that then you have somebody on your team. Like, I don't like it. It's shit behavior. It's crazy the backtracking that she does. She's like, I'm pissed at. Emily talked to everybody but me. It's like, bro, she tried to talk to you.

You weren't having it because you were too defensive about the whole thing. She's like, I would have loved the opportunity to talk to her. Call her. Your phone works, dude. This has been going on for a while. She made it pretty clear. She's upset. You've gotten on the defense way too fast.

Now it's catching up to you. And now you're trying to wrangle Katie into it, who last week, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, you didn't give a shit about. So her going to Katie in this moment, I'm like, ah, you're grasping now. Now you're trying to make this look better for you. Maybe you're realizing it's not looking. looking great. I'm not really sure what her approaches. I'm going to save the rest of it for later when her and Emily talk. But I thought it was cool to see Emily and what she does with the

innocent centers. Like that shit's wild. That dude got convicted at 15 for his half brother murder somebody or attempting to murder somebody. That's wild. He looked great in the suit, by the way. Yeah. But like, how did you get? He definitely looked great in the suit. But that was crazy. I know. I wish we saw more. situation is absolutely insane i i felt that we saw i felt she's something before right amount of that oh you don't want any more innocent project or innocent center don't put that on me come on now no i'm saying that evil on me rickie by i feel like we got it i feel like we got enough the story and i like that because we got a little bit last year she was talking about it last year i think wasn't there

like a gala or something there was a gala or something that she was either hosting or a part of yeah yeah So we had a lot of that last year, but I do like hearing this because it does, again, as something that we always like to point out, it humanizes the people that we watch on TV. Sure. And this was important to watch. This is something that Heather, I'm sorry, this is something that Emily liked. You got Heather on the brain, dude. No, look, we're going after Heather this episode.

So that's what I'm all about. I like that we got to see this because it is something away from everything else that we've been doing this entire season. We like to see these things. And it's very important what she's doing. so I like to say it. Yeah, I agree. I just want to touch on it real quick. I also want to touch real quick on Korean barbecue.

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But we get to Shannon's 60th tea party and it's a sad intro because it's Shannon's solo and she was like, you know, the kids aren't here, and I'm 60 and alone. And I was like, oh, I'm a spinster. I'm like, oh, God. I'm glad you're smiling through this. And it's not that dire. You have friends. Like, you have people in your life.

You have Archie. But that was a sad setup to this whole thing. Honestly, I made me a little bummed out for Shannon. But the minute that Heather gets there, then this is the way that Heather Dubrow works. And I love that people call her out on it in this. episode this is how she moves like she's going to get in an altercation i don't have time for you let me step away i want to gather my thoughts on how i would like to approach this and take the offensive rather than get defensive for too long then she comes to you and says hey can we go chat

i'm like i don't really want to right now like i'm good this is not the time nor the place it kind of goes back to i wish that we had a counter again because of what terry said last week. Terry said that she likes to go through things three times. And maybe she did this. Maybe she did go through it the first time, obviously. She went through it again at the, what are we going to call that? The outdoor furniture store. She went through it again at that point. All that furniture was ugly as shit, by the way. Oh, yeah, I know. I agree. I agree. It didn't really make a whole lot of sense. It was all wicker. It was all wicker. Every single thing that they sat down on was wicker. I actually agree with Shannon because Katie was talking about how she doesn't, maybe she doesn't have that. that like great taste it's like no it's all wicker maybe she's all wicker you don't have good taste katie this this furniture's ugly maybe that's a good point but maybe she went through it again at some point off screen and now she's finally ready to sit down and actually get it right and look i agree with emily too this is about shannon this is shannon's birthday shannon's going to go through everything obviously there's an important announcement which they all know what's going on they all know

they're going on a cast trip and it's going to be announced today let's just make it about shannon the person who's going through the most in our group, let's put our little fickle, like, issues aside and we'll just move on with our lives. No, Heather needs to get it out of the way now because she sat in the Uber on the way over and went through every possibility in her head. Again, I'll give her a sliver,

the tiniest little sliver of credit, because she actually got it right this time and just sat there and fucking listened for the love of God. But that doesn't work. You can't go through this that many times talk to other people, try to drag Katie into it, and then sit down and be like, you know what, I'm going to listen to this time. No, it doesn't work. No, and it's just on your terms. It's always on your terms. And the funniest thing is you're now proving Terry Wright. And you got mad at Terry

for calling you out for it, but now he's vindicated because you're doing exactly what he said. This is your playbook. And the funniest part of this whole thing is when people approach her in the same regard where, hey, can we go hash this out real quick? Oh, no, we're fine. We're fine, I'm not talking to you about this anymore. But when she does it, Emily says no. She's like, come on, come on, come on. Let's get, come on. Hey, come on. And Emily's like, fuck it. Fine. Let's go have a chat.

I'm glad they did. Not for Heather's sake. I could give a fuck. Like, she doesn't deserve any kind of empathy or sympathy from, like, Emily owes her no explanation. But for Emily's sake, I'm glad that she was able to get these things out once and for all to Heather's face. and actually let Heather hear her. And this is what we've all been screaming at our screens for three weeks now, where it's like, dude, she's not coming at you right now. She has body image issues that are furthered by comments on social media, the fact that she feels like she's always the biggest one in the group.

She's put in all of this effort to make these big changes to her life. She's lost 40 pounds. She looks fantastic. And she says, for me to walk in there and then see that my dress is then placed next to Alexis. and I'm the big dress. So now you've singled me out unintentionally, but I'm still singled out because I'm looking at my dress. It's a size 12.

I'm looking at Alexis. It's a size 2 or whatever the fuck it was. Then you're asking me to put on the oversized coat. Oversized again, you're going to trigger me there. And the last part of it is I'm wearing jeans, assuming that everybody else is wearing jeans. Lo and behold, they're all getting fitted outfits from whoever's running this fashion show. I'm bringing my jeans from home.

I already have all of these issues with everything. and I'm aware, Heather, that this is not intentional. But do you know how it feels to then have all of my insecurities thrown in my face, whether intentional or not? And then I have an issue with it. And rather than hearing me out and understanding, hey, for the future, this kind of thing can hurt. It can sting.

And you may not have thought about it. And that's fine. I get it. But in the future, why don't you think about this so you don't hurt my feelings or somebody else's? And Heather, who is so outspoken on being accepting. of everybody, you would think would have a pretty good grasp on people's feelings. You cannot dictate how somebody reacts to something and it's your job as a friend to hear them out. But rather than do that, you get defensive because you think that she's attacking your fashion show. And in that

moment, she's looking for a friend for you to say, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I would never intend to do that. Thank you for pointing it out. I'll be better in the future. But instead, she hears this whole thing, quietly understanding, or so it seems. And at the end of it, She wants to go and say, I get it, I'm a woman. I've got body image issues. It's like, dude, no, that's fine. You may be very well might. A lot of people have body image issues.

And regardless of your size doesn't dictate whether or not you're allowed to have them, don't relate to her in this moment. Let her have her moment and just say, oh, my God, I'm sorry. Then go to the confessional and say, I fucked up. I didn't see it. I'll be better in the future. I'm glad she pointed out to me. But instead, she tries to meet her halfway and say,

I get it. We all get it. You know, we all have body image issues. Like, no, that's not the time. It's not the place. And you somewhat undid, for me, at least, the conversation that was just had. And I know it's a little probably taking it too far, because at least she was understanding. But I didn't like that. I hated that that's how it ended was, I get it. I have issues with my body image as well. Not to that level. She doesn't get comments from random idiots like, oh, she'd be really pretty if she lost weight. It's like, Emily's objectively gorgeous. Let's not play that game. And Heather, just empathize.

Empathize, shut up, apologize, move on. And have the hindsight. Like, we always love to see hindsight in confessionals, looking back and saying, you know what, maybe I should have been a little bit better. The problem with that is, like you said, she's always super understanding until it involves her on a potentially negative end. Once she's on the negative end,

then all of a sudden it's going after her character. then all of a sudden it's what did you do wrong no you weren't actually on the negative end you were just a part of the story that you identified as being negative you could have just made this all go away with a wave of the hand and say look emily i'm really sorry i didn't realize any of that let me hear you talk about it did it the first time instead of going through all of this like you said three weeks we've been screaming at our TVs like heather just fucking understand you seem like somebody who gets it at some point just get it when you're involved or not just understand what's going on so i agree with you yes i i'm happy me personally i'm happy that she finally just sat down and

listened the whole time but i agree with you the confessional wipes a lot of that away i'm more so happy that at least she gave emily the time and the space to just explain what the hell she was going through and everything across the board and if heather doesn't fully understand it that's on Heather, it's not on us, but maybe we can finally move on. I think we can from this at least, but it's just funny in this episode, it seems like we're watching everybody's playbook to the T because immediately after this, Tamara arrives and the first thing she does is apologize to Jen. I'm so sorry.

Look, we can talk later. I don't want this to be awkward. Love Jen in this moment. She's great. And her right now because she's like, okay, you know what, whatever. She's finally gotten to the point where she's like, I see you. It's taking me a long time. I gave you another chance after.

Last year, when he brought me on the show, despite what Ryan Stoneman says, when you brought me on the show, and then you dragged me for the entirety of the season, I gave you another shot. Not this time. You're not going to walk back in here and pull a Tamara. And that's the best part is that's happening across the board now. Because of this season, people are calling it out. As you said, it sets the table for Gretchen Rossi to return. Great TV. We're here for it.

I'm just glad that Jen is finally working her way up to one phenomenal housewife status. talk about a glow up like it's been it's been so entertaining to watch her navigate this season coming in as the friend of tamra coming in and getting dragged by gina not letting it knock her down but instead she's actually climbed her way up even while she's dating this dude that's got some very sketchy shit going on she's still a very likable character she's got a lot of dynamics and i don't see that coming i that came out of left field so she's been a lot of fun to watch but and she invites the whole group to london she's got Got the Union Jack dress on, rips off the jacket, and she's like, we're going to London.

I love the reveal, and I love, as you know, bad accents. A really bad accent that she let go on for way too long. No, it was so good. And Gino's was atrocious. Oh, my God. Gina's been mastering some weird Midwest accent that has like a hint of Staten Island in there. I'm not surprised that she didn't really get it. Staten Island, Long Island.

It's Long Island plus Ohio plus Valley. I would say even more Midwest than Ohio. I'm going to go all the way to Minnesota. Oh, Minnesota, don't you, I know. But as they're sitting there, some flowers arrive. And I'm like, these have to be from Alex. I didn't see any, any. They're actually from March.

Dude, if they were a fucking funeral arrangement from March, just for no reason. Sorry about your lawsuit. I would love it. A little of a sudden, Marge would have just risen to the top of the power rack because that would have been hilarious. That would have been so good

if she's crossing boundaries now into different shows, just sending funeral arrangements across the board when shit goes down. That would be a great bit. I would be here for that. But it's from Alexis. It literally has an olive branch in it.

And it says, I want to extend to you the olive branch. In what world? Do you think that this would work? We understand what you're doing. The producers announced, hey, cast trip's coming up. Shannon's hosting. We're going to London.

And she's going, fuck, I'm not going to go to that. I've already kind of dug a hole this season by trying to go out to this John Jansen shit. This is going to push me completely into irrelevancy. I'm definitely not coming back next season. Shannon just put the nail in my coffin. If I don't get back right now, I'm going to send her some flowers. That's got to work.

Shannon. She writes this whole text out. And you know what? It's very forward. It says exactly what it needs to say and says, of course you're not invited. And I'm pretty sure you understand why. The reaction to the group is crazy to me. Hey, I like that everybody laughs.

I like that originally everybody laughs. The laugh is fine. Heather is the one. Well, look, I understand Jen being like the middle ground being like, yeah, maybe softened up a couple things, Katie, too. Heather was fully against it. Don't send that. Do not do that.

Emily fully in. Send it. I don't understand. Again, if this happened to Heather, Heather would send that text message or she wouldn't send a text message at all and just wouldn't invite you. That's how that would go.

So you don't get to sit over there in the corner of the table and say, hey, maybe like don't send that. Maybe just invite her. Like be the bigger person and invite her. No, Heather. That's not how that works because that's not even remotely as close to, like, what you would have done.

You would have ignored her and act like she wasn't even part of the cast. I don't understand that. And Emily made it really difficult to podcast for this entire moment because Emily said everything that we would say. Emily literally said verbatim, probably what you and I would say together. It was incredible. I finally love that Emily is coming around the logic. She's finally getting through. She's the only one who's finally getting through and saying, this makes zero sense.

After everything that you've done all year, you can send Olive Branch after Olive Branch, but you still act like you don't give a shit. You still act like I don't care about Shannon and I'm going to run her into the dirt because of my boyfriend. It makes zero sense. So of course she's not going to accept this. Send the fucking text message. I agree with you.

I didn't feel like the text message was that bad. I feel like it was very up front. I thought it was very, very reasonable. Yeah. To somebody who has been part of suing you, to somebody who's been rubbing it in your face that they're dating your ex-boyfriend. Of course, you truth that. It makes no sense to not send that text message.

So I'm happy that she finally actually did it. She's like, need a remind you? They're like, no, no. It's like, no, you should fucking, anybody that's like, that's too harsh. Lawsuit, People Magazine, declined your offer of 75K plus a non-disparagement clause. You're threatening with videos. You're talking all kinds of shit. Why on earth would the text be nice?

and why on earth do you think that a literal olive branch, which is the corneous shit I think I've ever seen, would work here. And it's crazy that Alexis is like, and it's wild to me that Shannon's like, this is such a John move. Clearly they're trying to change their tactics,

John's coaching her. And of course, Tamara's like, oh, here we go. Blame it on John. Why can't Alexis just be nice? Because Tamara, we've watched all season and we know who Alexis is and what she's trying to do. This is a desperate attempt to stay relevant and stay on this show because she's about to slip out of relevancy and off the screen once again because her plan for the season completely backfired. You should have left John Jansen off the screen. If you guys really cared

about each other, you really had a relationship, you wouldn't have needed this validation from strangers watching you at home. That's the craziest thing to me. You want to stay off the screen. You want to stay out of the limelight. It seems so very important to you to have our blessing to say, you know what, John, you were slated. And you know what? Even if you were slited in any way by Shannon at this juncture because of the way that you behaved with your new girlfriend, now fiancee, we don't fucking care. Your character's out there for all of us to see, bud.

We get it. We know who you are. Whether you were right or wrong in the original scenario is now completely irrelevant due to your behavior currently. Because you continue to go on screen with this woman to try and disparage Shannon after she's offered you a way out. She's offered you a way out and a way to get off the screen, which you have claimed you so desperately won,

because she ruined your family by bringing you on TV. And here you are doing a goddamn confessional with Alexis that we have to sit through and watch because you think that we give two fucks. Guess what? We don't. I would be thrilled if I never see John Jansen again. If we didn't have to talk about this douche nozzle,

I would be elated. Slip off into relevancy. Let Shannon's final nail in the coffin finally get you out of here. Take Alexis with you and don't let the door hit you in the way out. Go fuck yourselves. No, I love it. I love that entire monologue. That was incredible.

Thank you. This was the moment that I actually looked at Tamara and I fully believe that she has gone full delusional because we've been putting her into a category of she just does all this for the cameras. does all this for the show and she just does all this to portray a character that furthers the show once she said that juxtaposed to what emily said i fully believe that she is delusional now i think that she is fully bought in to whatever character she's putting out there it makes zero

sense and somebody should do a wellness check on tamer at this point because it makes zero sense you cannot sit in your confessional and say oh my god it's got to be about john again john's in the fucking confessional in about three minutes. You think that wasn't orchestrated. You think that they didn't realize what the fuck was going on. It's unbelievably insane that now she's going to try to backtrack it because now this is what we're doing. This is getting towards the end of the season.

Tamara's going to backtrack and backtrack and backtrack and we're going to have an entire reunion of her pulling everything that she said all season back. And it's not going to hit because finally people are seeing through her shit and I can't wait for that. I love it. I cannot wait for it. I just can't believe that John Jansen had a fucking confessional. I can't wait to get to that.

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Mutine, now available in Canada. We're right there, or almost there, because we had Katie, Alexis, and Jen to finish out the episode. And Katie and Jen, who have been somewhat close to the Lexus, they've developed a friendship with her. I guess. I guess.

Like they're friendly. To me, they were, they were tagged in to go do this probably. It didn't look like you. You too kind of like her. Why don't you go over there and like break the notes? You guys seem like real people.

I thought you to go over and see what happened. You're seeing like human beings. So why don't you go talk to to Alexis about this whole thing? They go to break the news. And, you know, it's like we're not moving forward. It's eight weeks too late.

And Alexis is like snap. She's like, why? This whole thing was the, worst performance i have seen on bravo and that says so much because we've seen she also had a midwestern accent did you notice that i did it was bizarre out of nowhere i don't know i have no idea she hanging out of jina too much like i don't get it i've no idea we're not at nowhere yeah and she's the the sheer performativeness of it was baffling to me i'm like do you think that anybody's

buying this nonsense like what the fuck's going on right now what am i watching she's like i'm extending an olive branch and then she gets the text and she's like i've tried it all girls i've tried it all get the text right in there because i watched it twice no way she got the text like hours ago right katy and katy and jennel like check your phone she's like okay i left it in the other room she goes and checks and comes back religiously yeah she has the balls to say i've tried it all girls what is she so hung up on let's review one more time because i wrote it down here as well you had an offer to get rid of this whole thing for the full amount.

All you had to do is sign a piece of paper that said, we were not going to talk shit anymore. Couldn't do that. You filed a lawsuit. You went to People magazine. You threatened with videos. Need we go on? You've also tormented this woman all season

and reminded her over and over and over and over again about a DUI that damn near ruined her life. And while she's trying to climb out of this hole, you're pushing her back in any chance you get. And you think, you fucking think you're going to London? Are you fucking insane? No, you're not going to,

I agree with you. She knows that not going to London is a nail in the coffin. She's done. There's no way that she can come back next year. You can't miss a cast trip internationally and still come back next year. No. There's just no way. I also was going to finish the season, by the way.

That'll be the last few episodes and she's not going to be there. She's not going to be there, which is going to be incredible. I also, my favorite part about all of this is her going upstairs, getting her phone to go bitch about this. and they hear that John is up there. You know he's just like laying in bed. It's like 8 p.m. on like a Tuesday. This guy's just laying across the bed, probably like in his boxers or something.

Like, oh, yeah, you better tell her this, this, this, this, she comes right back down with a new agenda and does all of those things.

It was so funny. I love the entirety. I love the Katie and Jenner there because they're the most like realistic people that are like, what the fuck is going on? like is he upstairs is he like doing this right now what what the hell he doesn't come down why are the doors open why is he listening to this conversation can we talk about that like why

are you listening because he's a creep he's probably up there beating off probably like it like i second i second that yeah yeah he's up there just like whacking it like listening to them talking like oh this one works like but that's when we get to this confessional and he's like we were days away from the statute of limitations i have had to do it. We have evidence that this was a loan. We have X, Y, Z. I have proof. Brother, she offered you the fucking money. That's where all this shit goes out the window. He's like, I couldn't take it because I have to defend myself. We don't give a fuck. No one knows who you are. Need I remind you? Like, you're not a celebrity guy. No one fucking knows. If I walked outside and

knocked on my neighbor's door and said, hey, have you heard of John Jansen? They'd go, who? If I walked and talked to any actual reporter in the media and said, hey, have you ever heard of John Jansen they go no who the fuck is John Jansen you're not big enough to think that this is a storyline that you need to tag on to we heard from Shannon earlier that you had a fucking statement ready to announce when you guys called it off we don't need to hear from you you were never part of this you were the asshole boyfriend for three four five seasons that we couldn't fucking stand and now you're just showing us why we fucking hate you so much and you won't go away you know you're like a goddamn rash leave us to fuck alone

This is a cortisone cream. It's just confirmation of what we talked about two weeks ago. He saw that things were not going their way. He saw that Alexis, whatever her involvement was in all of this, was not working towards what he envisioned in his mind. That's why he has a confessional. That's why he's sitting down with Alexis during the confessional. That's why Alexis isn't talking.

And she's just watching him talk in this confessional. He needed to insert himself because it wasn't going the way that he thought it was. And he thought maybe a little last-ditch effort, let me get out there and let me try to explain my side of the story problem is buddy you suck and you're a piece of shit and we all hate you so when you jump on our screen immediately everybody starts tweeting out we need to know about this jump scare bravo you can't just throw him out there you can't do did you notice that the music changed a little bit too usually they just like jump to a confessional they did like not dramatic music had a fade in dude yeah had like a sad

music fade in going to john jansen sitting there i had to do what i had to do because i'm just a battered man i'm beaten down i just i'm just for my own benefit i'm just so happy that the bravo community and people that actually enjoy this show and understand what the fuck's going on are just going after john jansen god he's an absolute piece of shit for a guy who's sitting there and all we ever hear about him he doesn't want to be on camera he thinks that the show ruined his life and ruined his family's life why do you have a confessional how about you just stay off screen. How about you're not there when Jen and Katie come over? How about that, buddy? No, you have to insert yourself. You need to make sure that you're always around so that

you can coach Alexis. Everything that Shannon is saying all season is being proved by you. Yes. Through Alexis and through yourself. You're not doing yourself any favors. You're actually ruining your own actual character. Everybody knows exactly who you are. It's a nightmare for him and I can't get enough of it. Yeah, suck my butt, cheesebag. What a loser. But I do like that at the very least, Alexis does have a funny moment of just opening the door and saying,

come on. And obviously Jen's comment at the end of it is very funny. Her confessional about being kicked out why I was affected once, that's hilarious. That shows you how far Jen is coming in the show, how far she's come as a housewife. she has some sort of like understanding of where everything is and she can have a little bit of fun with it. It was hilarious. It was great. It was an incredible ending to the episode. I loved it.

It was so good. Watching her get up dramatically wipe away those fake crocodile tears, not say a word. Again, part of this bizarre performance we're witnessing. Open the door, throw her hands up. I'm done. And not even say, get out. Just point. I'm done. They walk out and they're baffled. You're right. You are done. Your season's over. Yeah, you're good. And then she goes upstairs, and John is just finishing up and cleaning up.

And she's like, I've tried so hard, sob, sob, sob. Guys, shut the door and cameras go away and never go back there. Never go back there. They didn't add anything to this season. There was nothing of value. They don't belong on TV. John, you got your wish, pal. We don't care.

We don't care. Bye-bye now. Later, bro. is Smalia, but why don't we get to some questions and then we'll wrap this bad boy up. The funniest part is there's like 15 of these. Like, why oh, why did John Jansson get a confession? Oh, yeah, I know. Oh, God.

It's like all the same question. Oh, here we go. This is, it's the same question, but it's a different variation from Brian J. McGee. On a scale of 1 to 10, how punchable is Johnny Jay's face? I'd say a solid 12 at this. Yeah, I was going to see 12, too, actually. Yeah, he's a 12. And if he hadn't talked this season or just kind of stayed away,

it'd probably be like an eight, like a seven or an eight. He's a full 12 after watching that confessional. So from M.W. Arna, M. Warnah, why did Jen and Katie think to, what? I think you missed. I think they mistyped. Why did Jen and Katie have to gently explain the London trip to Alexis? Because production told them to. Yeah, I think that's pretty self-explanatory, honestly.

Yeah. what we didn't talk about hold on what we didn't talk about is the fact that jenn is saying that alexis did not leak the story to people magazine i'm not sure if she's saying john might have is that what she's implying by by extension she's culpable okay yeah i think so too let's see do we have anything that's not related to those two because i think we've covered all of it i honestly like scrolling through it looks like pretty much every question was about that. Let's see. I saw my guy Gizmo

asked what was production's expectation for Alexis this season? Honestly, I thought that maybe after the first couple episodes, it would turn into her having a different storyline. Like maybe production thought the same

thing. It just hasn't gone that way. And it's awful for her. Great for us. It's brutal. It's fucking brutal. But last, last. one here from shana draper 27 not a cue but congrats on the sweet little girl thank you so much uh i'm going to get back to my little girl and feed her before she goes to bed but thank you all for tuning in as per us and uh go fills as we watch the season just trickle away into oblivion uh and us

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