Bros & Shows - Why is The RHOA Reunion 3 Parts? (RHOA Reunion Pt 2 Full Recap)

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

What's up Bros? We thought this episode was gonna bring it a little bit more but it looks like Bravo is trying to save the drama for episode 3. In this episode, we cover a whole list of issues but we don't really get down into anything. The Phaedra v Angela issue is chalked up to a 'lets move on because we are not getting to the bottom of it..." Porsha and Shamea get into a "who's the bigger liar". What this reunion did do is call a lot into question for Shamea. She had a lot to answer for and her answers weren't really sufficient. Drew deserves more respect than the 4th seat and we think she's holding her own this ep. The husbands are saved for the last episode, the first 2 have been lackluster. So, here's to hoping they can at least end it on a high note? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, we were bamboozled, and we kind of bamboozled ourselves, just thinking it was going to be action-packed. And it wasn't. So it's our fault. It's our fault. And it's not a good sign that husbands got pushed episode three. Oh, boy. Yeah. I'm your co-host and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Bros and shows. I got to have me my bros and shows. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Bros and Shows. I'm your co-host, Neil Russell, joined as always by the one and only ATL McGuder. What's up, dude? Not a whole whole lot.

A little anti-climactic. Can't spell anti-climactic without ATL. Sure. There's an A, a T, and an L in there. Yeah. I don't know what you're going to. I guess it's not anti-climactic. We don't know how the third episode's going to go.

But the second episode, what are we doing? What are we going to talk about here? I don't know. It was confused. It turned into a liar off. Yeah. Who's the liar? There was speculation drawn on

Angela and her potential involvement with the Marcus thing. Marcus is the dude that blew up their spot at the Kelly event. So it was confusing. Taking notes was confusing. It was kind of a constant discussion of everybody, but nothing. It was, I don't even know. I think the thing that really confused me the most was Shamea and Portia at the end, because I could not understand where they were going with any of it.

And there were two different instances. They started talking about the wedding. And I'm like, okay, like, maybe we'll get somewhere. We've heard about this before. And I'm like, I don't know what to think about this. I don't know if there was a wedding. Did anybody get married? So, what's going on?

She had the wedding in Kenya. Uh-huh. Was that a wedding? That was a wedding. Okay. Porsche didn't go to that one because they were beefing. Right. And also says she didn't go because of a medical condition in which she can't sit in the back of airplanes.

Wasn't Shimea then saying that the real wedding was in Atlanta? And that wasn't a wedding? That's where I was really confused. So one of them was a Sarah. So here's how I see it. I think the ceremony was in Kenya and then the actual, like, marriage was in Atlanta. It would make sense if it was the other way because not everybody can travel to Kenya, you know. So maybe here's how I thought.

Just because of the distance that Kenya is, not everybody can make that wedding, which is understandable. So they had the real wedding in Kenya, but then they had a ceremony in the States so that more. people that are local could make it that would make more sense so yeah this episode for us is going to be trying to make heads and tails of things yeah because i don't know i i will say my big takeaway from this episode angela is a great housewife yeah she's awesome even when you don't really fully believe her with certain things and she comes out with receipts i love that she had the birth certificate receipt that's so fucking funny great move but even when you truly are like uh yeah i don't like you might want to just take this one and just, you know, lie down.

She doesn't have to. No. She's good at it because she stands her ground so well. And it's not over that line that we hate where it just gets annoying. Like Tamara does it, where it's like, you're wrong and you're just screaming at this point. She doesn't raise her voice. She's calm, cool, and collected. And she just agrees to disagree at the very end of it.

And it's like, you're still wrong, but you kind of won that. Right. Really, I like it. It's remarkable. It's nice that she will acknowledge it and then be like, hey, let's, move on. Yeah. Like, I don't want to do this with you anymore, so we're just going to stop talking about it,

but I still don't agree with you. That's a big positive for a housewife because you're not going to get bogged down by the mundane shit, the stuff that we don't like to talk about week in, week out. So I love that about her. You need at least like two people on every cast. I need there to be a prerequisite for going into a new season, get your cast together. You have to have at least two Angela Oakleys. I like that.

That'll work really well because we won't get stuck on that. and I just love the way that she ended everything because obviously we're not going to see eye-to-eye on certain things. She's not going to be able to agree with what Porsche is saying. She's not going to be able to agree with what Fager's saying. She still has her doubts in mind, whatever it might be. She can move on. And I truly believe when she says, you know what, I don't know, we're just going to move on. Good.

Great. Awesome. Yeah. And I think Kelly didn't have a great showing in both episodes. She didn't do a lot of negative. I just, I think it's, you know, the newbie curse. I wonder if her prep was that she was. just going to go after Britt the whole time, and she thought that going into it.

I don't believe that everybody was completely caught off guard that Britt wasn't there. No, I think they're playing into it a lot. Yeah, they're definitely playing into it a lot. And obviously, Andy had a, like, they already had the screenshot of her story that she posted that day. So there was already things going on. I'm sure most of them knew. But still, when it comes to Kelly, I would have expected a lot more just because she, I felt

like she grew a lot throughout the season. She kind of molded into a completely different person, and she was enjoyable, and I like that. But she still had some sticking points with Britt in particular. So she probably went into this thinking, oh, yeah, me and Brit are really going to get into it. That's going to be the big focus for this. And now Brit's not there, so you can't do that. And now she's just kind of taking a backseat. That's the funniest part to me because this season was not great, right?

I think we can all agree on that, not their best showing. A lot of that had to do with Britt. Yeah. ironically brit not being at the reunion gives us nothing to really discuss until we get to the charles and angela thing i see i went through that today actually because it did feel like one of those episodes where i'm like what the hell are we going to talk about it still feels like that to be honest and i sort of inserted brit in my mind to see how that would go it doesn't go that smoothly in my head it's very uh tempers are flaring she's yelling shit she gets nasty other people get

and that's pretty much how it goes from like A to B, pretty much from the start to the finish. She's not going to let anybody get a word in edgewise. She's probably going to cry. It's just going to be kind of frustrating because we're not going to get anywhere. That's how I view it if Britt was there. But you still have a focal point of who to focus on because so many questions are asked about her and what you think about it. We need to stand in for Brit. That would have been fun.

Bring someone in. They do this for watch what happens live. they bring in like the playhouse clubhouse so they have people like john ham do readings like dramatic readings bring somebody in bring an actor and actress in yeah john ham sit brit bring john ham in have him sit down and he's brit so everybody at least has somebody to look at when they're yelling things and then john ham can get involved because he probably watched it it was just interesting like that was my thought process i don't disagree with you i'm not saying that brit being there would skyrocket this into a great reunion yeah it would

definitely be better only because a lot of the sticking points being made or Andy's saying, well, what do you think Britt thought of this? It's like, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah. What does it matter? She's not coming back. We're done with her. Just leave her in the past of this. Yeah. So, it's just a weird reunion. And I think the third one is going to be fine. Like, I don't know. They clearly were trying to stretch this out into three. Right. The first, here's the funny thing. If you take the first one and the second one and lump that into one episode, it's probably tolerable. It's probably not horrible. It is, yeah.

If you edit certain things out and you just do two episodes and the second episode is when the husband's come in, we get the, I guess, resolution of Shania and Portia. Something, you know, anything. Whatever we got today was not anything. So, yeah, I agree with you. I think, I don't know if I talked about this last week or if I was talking about it to somebody else. You talk about this shit with other people? Yeah, dude, I talk about it to everyone. Wow.

I stop people on the street. You slut. Hey, bro. You watch in Atlanta? What do you think about this? No, I do think that the way that Bravo operates and NBC, I guess, operates. They already have this penned in as a three-part reunion for TV rights, for all of these things. So once Brit drops out, once Kenya drops out, they probably already have it set in stone.

Like, hey, we're going to do a three-part reunion. Then Kenya drops out. Then Brit's not there. It's like, fuck, what do we do? and they always have. We always hear about like how long and grueling these reunion days are. They're eight hours, nine hours long, sometimes ten hours if it's VPR. So they already have this already set.

They're like, we've got to have something in here, right? This is brutal. If you have nine hours of footage, I would actually be surprised if they went over like five hours at this point because there's just nothing here. That's actually a really good indicator of how good a reunion is going to be is the, not every time, but the length that they stay there. I would love to know the time. I haven't seen anybody talk about it, like anybody from the cast or Andy talking about how long they were there. That'd be a good prop bet if they started putting that out there. How long would this reunion take to film?

Put a, well, I guess this would be hard for editing because then we would see how much they edit. But put a little clock in the bottom. Yeah. Just a little countdown clock. Like, hey, this is now hour six. Sometimes Andy will throw that in there. Like, we're going on hour six. Can we please move on?

Yeah. We have so much more to get to and we're never going to leave here. That's always very helpful for me. It always makes me feel better because I'm like, oh, good. great keeps everybody on the same page but let's uh let's jump in as we attempt to sift through whatever it is that we watched diving into the shallow end of a pool right now it's like you know it's shallow we're gonna try at first baby put my hands out and just kind to try to prop myself up and find some shit i don't know but we start out where we left off

and it's the marcus thing we're trying to get to the bottom of who let this information leak to this random person that came up and said I know your husband referring to Charles and then made the cheating toast, whatever the fuck that was. Down the line from Angela, like how this came

to pass is Fadra's brother knows this woman. This woman knows Marcus. Marcus knows Charles and Angela through the rumors. Now Fadra is saying, I don't know who that woman is. Let's call

my brother Jacques. So we call Jacques. This to me is not proof of anything whatsoever because of course he's going to ride for her. He's not going to say anything. I think this is where Andy should have stepped in because we've seen that before where Andy will step in and be like, I'll be the one to call. That way you can't set him up with a leading question and say, hey, we're talking about this, this, this, this and this. What do you think about it? How are you involved? It's like now he knows all the information. He's just going to deny it. Yeah, because and like anybody would in that situation. Like I would do the same. exact thing, but it's not enough to really clear the air, but it leads us to a new revelation

that I haven't heard this being discussed, but Cynthia says that she doesn't think that Angela was involved. I must have been writing something or not paying attention. When did that come up? They sort of tried to spin it at the finale. They did, okay. And then we got a little tidbit towards the end of episode one of the reunion. Gotcha.

that other, really it's just Fager's side of the couches are trying, not even Cynthia, but really it's just Portia and Fajer talking about it. And I guess Kelly's probably getting involved. She's involved in everything. Just simply stating the possibility that Angela could be involved in it. But it gets dismissed so quickly because Cynthia doesn't think so. Shemia even lends some support. Like that would be kind of crazy if you did that.

So I don't believe it at all. Yeah, I think Cynthia's like that would be the biggest heist of all time if that was what was going on. I don't know. I'm still under the impression that Fajer had something to do with it or is involved. I do, too. And the way they tried to defend it didn't clear her name in my head because you start looking at the reasons that Jock gave, the reasons that she's giving. And it's not anything set in stone. And Jacques is friends with this woman on Facebook. Yeah. But then he's like, I'm friends with a lot of people. Like, ooh, that's not, that doesn't clear it from it. Yeah, it doesn't clear it. And I mean, you could bring anybody up. I mean, everybody on Facebook. had like 1,200 friends or whatever it was, you can point to anybody. I'd be like, I kind of know who that is. Right.

You always kind of know who it is. You know of them. Yeah. I think what happened here is traitors got to Fager's head. I love Fager, but I think she might be cosplaying as a trader still. Interesting. Probably kept the hood. She kept the cloak.

She's got like the gloves on with the envelope. Like I could see her doing this just for fun. She's now just a full-time trader. She's just a traitor in real life. Interesting. That's interesting. I don't know. Which brings me to my next point.

Oh, good. New podcast for you to listen to. Oh, no. No. No. Who is it? It's Tamara and... Dolores and Wells.

Yeah, no. What is it called? Like, All Ye Faithful or some shit? Something like that. It's a Traders podcast. I guess. They're on traitors, so now they're calling themselves that. I don't know.

I'm not going to listen to that one. What a waste of microphones. You just gave a free advertisement. I can't say ad, apparently. Ad Advertisement. It's an advertasman. But back on task a little bit, Kelly doesn't think that that Britt was involved but isn't positive. Here's what I think.

At the end of the day, I think that Fadre might have brought Britt in on this. I could see that. Like, they worked together to move some things around. As we know, Fadra kind of took on this like maternal role for, for Brit because she felt bad for or whatever. I could see there being some involvement, but I do still believe that Fager's the mastermind. But the best part about this altercation, if you want to call it that, disagreement,

at the very end of it, Angela's like, but, you know, I feel like we can move forward. I'm like, great. Good. Awesome. Yeah, because we're not getting any answers. And we don't want to do this again next year. This one can just be put to bed.

Unless it comes up in like the third part and Charles has something to say about it. He's getting involved, apparently. But they keep playing that same clip. So I'm assuming that's the only moment. The only thing that he does probably. Yeah, I agree. But we get to Kelly and Angela and Kelly had said about Charles having a side baby or somebody

said side baby. Maybe Britt said side baby. Britt yelled, are we going to talk about that baby, though? Right. And then Kelly, I've always thought this, even from day one when we saw that, Kelly just kind of screams it back, but it was more like a question. I thought it was like in jest as a question. Yeah.

It wasn't like, it wasn't accusatory. It wasn't like, are we going to talk about that, baby? It was like, what the fuck did you just say? Yeah. That's what I took it as. And I still take that. Every time they show the clip, which we've now seen six times, I still think the same thing.

I haven't changed on that. I agree with you. But there is a moment where, and Kelly denies it, but Angela took it some kind of way because she's like. Well, it's unseed footage. Why? I don't know. Why do we?

There's so many dud episodes from this season that I remember. You could have put this in somewhere. Sure. exactly what it was. It was during one of the better episodes because it was a little bit later. It was after, from what I understand, just kind of looking at what they were wearing, Angela and Portia had sat down in that other room and it was, I guess it was at Cynthia's party, right? Is that whose party it was? The Bailey Q. Yeah, yeah. So they had sat down, they came out and I guess later in that party is when this happened. Yeah. Why this wasn't included, I don't know.

Maybe because that was one of the good episodes, so they didn't need extra footage, but they could have dropped it in somewhere during the season. Yeah, yeah, drop it back in when they're talking about it or have it spill over to the next episode who cares yeah and kelly denies saying it we get footage of her saying it like you're me whatever it again didn't seem like she was trying to talk shit i can understand from angela's side of things taking it that way because it we we know kelly's situation obviously a terrible situation so to draw comparisons there i would take it some kind of way too but i don't think that it was like hateful or no i i think that she

overstepped in a way where like I think that she was trying to in her own way be helpful I think she was trying to be supportive and be supportive

or something but at the same time while you're doing that as soon as you say that you're also accusing Charles yes having a baby correct so no

bad look bad look bad look question mark yeah good intentions really shitty execution agreed agreed with MX Platinum

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But she does say, you know, I'm sorry I don't mean any disrespect with that, and it seems like we can move on from this one as well. into Angela and her season a little bit. This is when we finally got some kind of like order as far as what we're talking about. So that was nice because we focused on Angela and the rumor that she's not actually 43. Great move to just bring the birth certificate. Just bring the legal documents. It was weird though. I remember we did that earlier in the season. We were trying to bring our birth certificates. I don't think I think we were either doing some sort of live show or we were doing something remote. because I remember Googling how old she was and we couldn't figure it out. So that's kind of weird. Yeah, but, oh, no, you're right. It wasn't anywhere online. It was bizarre.

Yeah, it was tough to find her. We weren't saying that we don't believe she's 43. It was like halfway through the season, so you would imagine that it would be up there. Yeah, it was bizarre. It was hard to, I think one thing said 46, one thing said like 39 and one thing was 43, I believe. So, yeah, I forgot about that.

But it's in these moments during this reunion where I'm not really sure what to bring up next because we go through just her season. It's like, you know, Shamia's nose comment. When did you get your nose done? 2017, okay, how did you feel about your daughter and her secret marriage? And it's like, oh, well, obviously that made me upset. And it's like, how did you feel when she came out?

And she said, oh, well, I always knew. Like, I appreciate that part. Like sharing that. I thought that was cool. She's like, you know, I always knew. So she came out to me as bye. And then Cynthia's like, yeah, you know, we connected on that because my daughter's fluid. I was like, all right, that's awesome.

But we're just going through like. Really just facts. Yeah. We're not having any discussion about anything. It's just, hey, Angela, what's going on here? How about this? What's that? It was just 10 minutes of 21 questions.

Right. Like, how's the house? How's the house is? And she's like, you know, we got foreclosure. This is what I love about Angela is the transparency when it comes to her financial situation. She gets ahead of it, she had already gotten ahead of it. I think it was her confessional in the second of the last episode or the last episode she already started talking about it. Says it in the reunion.

Like, she's smart enough to get ahead of it because she knows the other women will use it against her if they need to. And even in this moment, as soon as Andy, or before Andy's even finished speaking, she says what houses. So, like, she's already kind of shitting on herself. Right. It's fun. It's funny. And also because she's not in a place where it's like this ruined her financially. It's just, this was a bad investment.

The foreclosure notices came. I walked away from it because Charles has given her shit for it at home. I would imagine so. And I think that I just appreciate that she's not trying to josh it up and be like, oh, well, you know, we found a better investment. Oh, dude, every houseway from the world. would have done that. So it's kind of a breath of fresh air. I give her props for that. But amidst all of the drama with the houses, she lost her mom suddenly, which is very sad. And we learned that her mom was bipolar and wanted to share her journey with it because she

apparently got on top of it and was able to live a fulfilling life. So she was looking forward to being able to share her stories. So that's really sad to hear that. She had lost her so quickly, but we can talk about something specific now. Did Drew have Angela's back? No. No, I didn't think so either. We said that a while. We were questioning their friendship because we didn't see a whole lot of them

becoming friends, and we did get some sort of confirmation that they did, or at least from Angela's side, become close quick. And it was truly just a, oh, you're from Chicago, I'm from Chicago too. Cool, we can be friends, at least from Angela's side. Drew, I mean, I, she's self. and she's always been selfish. But there were certain times in the example that they used. I'm like, Drew at the time was in a lot of shit.

Everybody was kind of coming after. And she was off to the side at the Bailey queue. She's like, I'm not getting involved in that over there. Why not? Yeah, I didn't think that, but the difference. She didn't have Angela's back as much as Angela had her back. But then it's like, you get into the weird like semantics of, is it necessary to reciprocate as much as someone else is having your back?

It's like, I didn't really sign up for this. You don't have to have it back yet. Yeah. I don't really know if Drew really had her back that much at all, except for sitting down on that conversation with Marcus. Yeah. Otherwise, she really didn't. So, yeah, she should have done more. Definitely done more.

I do agree that it shouldn't be like equal. Like, I had you back in this. I think it depends on what situations arise. For sure. When she should step up when needed. Yeah. And the only situations I'm trying to remember right now where Angela was really getting it was down in Nashville. and Drew had left, and it was at that party.

Yeah, and she had, like, one opportunity. And I also think, again, at the Bailey Q, Drew is going through a ton of shit, and she even says it. Like, I couldn't really give her all of that support because of everything that I'm going through. And Shemia draws a comparison to all of the shit that she's going through. It's like, well, that's what I'm going through. So this stuff with Portia is really difficult. She, she, she, yeah, have to say that.

No, she didn't. We'll get to you in Portia. We don't have to make it any worse. No. And then when we do, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I have no idea. It's very confusing. But let's get to Fadra and Britt's relationship. And she stepped in because she saw Britt being a self-sabotor and coming into every situation hot and heated. And Portia goes to bat for Fadra. And she's like, you know, I haven't seen an OG give advice like that ever. And then Kelly stands up for Shamea and says, well, Shamea did the same thing. And Shamiya does have a history on the show. It's not like, I wouldn't say it's the same as like Fadra step. No, definitely not, yeah. But I like that Kelly has Shamiya's back a little bit, and I like that. Do we find out more about that alliance? Whatever the hell happened there?

I was doubting the alliance last week, and now we're like, just talking about it out in the open. We did have an alliance. They were saying they weren't really having an alliance. And then they said that the alliance was different people in it. And even after this episode, I'm not entirely sure who's involved in the alliance. I think Shemia brought Portia in, and Portia's just denying it. I think that Shemia might have mentioned it to Porsche. I think they're both lying to a certain extent.

I don't think that Portia had never heard of it, obviously. No. I don't think that she was the target of this alliance. No. But I do think that the alliance was to go after somebody, and perhaps Portia got caught in the crosshairs at some point because she was sidestepping the alliance. And when she, this is where it gets confusing,

because she is like, well, I wanted you to be in it, I asked you to be in. She's like, no, you didn't. I did, and I could see Portia saying this. She's like, you said you don't want to hang out with them off camera. And I was like, that could be true. Yeah. So I don't know. And we don't get enough.

And like I feel like Andy was trying to move things along, but I also wanted to scream to the TV. Like, we don't have a lot to talk about. Like figure out who's in this alliance. I think it was just a judgment call at that point. We're not getting anywhere. We're not getting any new information. You guys are refusing to give even a little bit.

So why are we doing this anymore? Yeah. And then they just, you can tell that they're not in a good place. Oh, no. I know, obviously, you know, the question is asked, where are you guys? Where does your friendship stand right now? No communication. Just fucking crickets for a good 15 seconds before they start talking.

And there's no communication. But you can tell just the way that they're going after each other. Like, they've got a lot to get off their chest. I'm just worried that they're not going to be able to do it in a constructive way, not to repair their friendship. I don't really give a shit about their friendship, to be honest. But as a viewer, I would like, but as a viewer, I would like, like to at least be able to understand what's going on. And it's impossible to understand when

they're just yelling over each other and calling each other liars. But with this alliance thing, I just, I don't know. And I guess this probably happens a lot. Like newbies will group up, start talking about what they want to do this season. I don't think it got as far as we got to take down one of the OGs. We got to go. If Fager wasn't even there at that point, we got to go after Kenya. We got to go after Portia. Because then Porsche's involved. The whole thing is just weird. I think it was as simple as, hey, you know, I'm Shemia. I've been on this show before. I'm a friend of. I've got some connections in here. But I'm now a new housewife and you're a new housewife. Let's just get together and we'll just discuss how this is all going to work. And then we can

kind of understand where we're going from here. That's pretty much probably all it was. I don't, I think even calling it an alliance is bullshit. But I, that's where I get question marks because the lack of including Angela does not make any sense and her. Yeah, I agree. And then Shimea was just like, I didn't know you. It doesn't make sense. Did you know Kelly? Correct. Like, that doesn't track for me.

And her reasons and excuses for why Angela wasn't involved, we're not very good. If we think back to the beginning of the season, Shemia pretty much didn't like Angela from Jump. Right. They got into it because the nose thing. Maybe she's just, they're in a better place now and they're kind of friends. So she feels bad saying, I just simply didn't like you, which I would actually appreciate. And I think Angela actually would too. And she probably knows that.

Yeah. definitely knows that. So I think if Shamiya had just been honest in that moment when, you know, we go back to the dressing rooms and they're just sitting there talking, just say it straight up. Like, I didn't really know you that well. And the things that I heard about you and the things that I knew about you, I didn't like. I didn't really want to be around you. That's not what I like. She gave some weird explanation. I was like, oh, I know you know. I know you know. I know that you know. Yeah. We all know. But the, the explanation didn't do shit, but it just made it seem like she purposely excluded Angela from the whole thing. And before we got to the

lunch. Like, Fadra and Shamiya have a bunch of beef that I wasn't really aware of about a podcast interview and then they would be cool in person, but then Shemia went on this smear campaign. I do believe this part because she did the same thing with Portia. Yeah. So that's... Shania went on a smear

campaign on, what was it, the morning show? She was on... No, it's a... What's his names? Charlotte. Yeah. The Breakfast Club. Yeah. She went on Candy's podcast, the breakfast club. And she did a couple other things. She was talking, we had clips during the season of her talking about Drew and talking about Porsche and talking about everybody else. It's like, maybe don't do that. Yeah, what this episode really

did for me was, and I still likes you. I think she's a good housewife. I think she's going to have a good tenure on this show. But it made me question her a lot more than I did during the season. I don't think she can handle being a housewife. I think that she can handle not being the center of attention housewife. Maybe, yeah. Maybe you give her another shot. It's just the season as a whole, and we've talked about this was bizarre. It started off good. The first two episodes, we both really liked Shemia.

You still held out hope, but there were so many signs throughout the season that I don't think she can really handle it. I think her life is incredibly interesting, but every housewife does this, so I feel bad knocking her for it. Right.

It's her first run. It's her first full housewife show. And now all of a sudden it's like, I really want to get my music career off. I want to do this. I want to do that. It's like, I know other housewives do it, but it seems so disingenuous

when you become a housewife. Like, you know how this works. It's almost like she's like, this is my chance to go do that. I'm going to use this as my platform to get my other stuff off and running. And it's like, okay, good for you. But they all do that. But please deliver as a housewife. I see what you're saying.

Please deliver as a housewife because otherwise I don't give a shit. That's fair. That's fair. But after lunch, we get two statements, one from Kenya, which I appreciate takes full accountability, doesn't side step, but just says I'm sorry for everything I did. But the end of it was kind of funny. What was the end of it? And wait to get back to problem. Oh, yeah, yeah, which, but Andy...

You allowed back? Andy read it and didn't say it. Yeah, he just read it. I do think they're pausing her. I think that's all they're going to do. I think she'll be back. I think she'll be back within two years. Especially if the pictures weren't actually Brit.

Then you're just showing porn at your opening. Which is bizarre, but you're not ruining a life. There's Samantha, or not Samantha. Yeah, I mean, you try to. Maybe I would be really interested if... I am not by any means condoning it, by the way. Not at all, but I would be very interested in, And I don't think she has, to my knowledge, if she would go on a podcast and just cop to the whole thing, tell us from step one to the end, what made you do that and what were your thoughts?

And who was involved? And I did, yeah, who was involved? I don't think she's going to throw anybody under the bus. But I would just be interested to hear what she was thinking throughout it. And I wonder if there is, because there is a part of me that thinks she knew that wasn't Brit. She just wanted to embarrass her. Interesting. And she thought maybe this is away from me.

to skate around it by using pictures of somebody else when it's not actually Brit. And I can put that up there and just be like, look, who's this hell? Who's this? What's going on here? And then all of a sudden it's like, wait, it's not actually you. I'm just fucking around. But this is what's going to happen if you keep trying to cross me. But don't you think Kenya would have come out and said it's not her?

I think the backlash was so swift and so severe that maybe she didn't want to talk about it anymore. I don't know. But it does appear that the door is still open. Yeah, it does. And I have to mention the Ralph and Dennis scene because this might be my favorite. Ralph wants to be a housewife so fucking bad. I know. It's embarrassing.

It's very obvious that that's all he wants. He just wants his peach. Such a loser. He's a dweeb, but it's funny as shit because, you know, he's talking about the recording session and all that. And Dennis is like, look, she did bring a photo of you in the recording booth, but don't take it personally. How are you supposed to take that? Or else, like, I didn't know the whole album was going to be about me. It's like, well, you should have.

You probably should have because you're a big piece of shit. But, you know, that's neither here nor there. That probably made him feel like a star, though. Honestly, yeah. He's like, I inspired her whole album. He's probably showing other girls that he's meeting on his tech conference trips. Like, hey, listen to this song, it's about me. That's all he does to go to tech conferences.

The euphemism in the middle of that. It means he got a big dick. That's exactly what he's doing. That's what he's doing. Well done. And it's laminated, too. His dick? Yeah.

Okay. Just like his bad. But Brits' statement is that she's going to set the record straight at some point that the photos weren't her and she's going to hold people accountable. Again, go away. Go away. I don't understand what you can do if the pictures weren't you. No idea.

I don't think we're not lawyers. We're not. I don't think the intent is good enough to sue. I don't know. And also, Bravo didn't show anything. But they did at least allude to it. Yeah, I mean, going against Bravo is just, it's a losing battle anyway. As we've seen.

So, yeah, you might have a leg to stand on because Bravo did tell us what happened and showed us a lot of the scenes and their reactions to it and how bad it was. They didn't have to do that. So maybe you have something in there. But again, you're going to lose that battle. And I don't think she can sue Kenya. So it's just, go away, Brit. Bye. Yeah.

It is interesting. So we'll do a one off. podcast like oh without a doubt definitely some podcaster who wants to be big on bravo yeah i would assume that's probably coming sooner than later us that would be fun it would be funny i don't think i can handle that would be pretty funny do not think i can handle it i'm down if she wants to come on we'll have anybody on we don't give a shit it's true the interesting thing is shemia says about brit that i guess that night when everything had shaken out they went out and she was totally fine that evening.

I'm not saying that this means that she was okay because maybe she was putting on a happy face. I don't really know. Could have been. But Shamiya's standpoint is that Britt was leaning into it, which, I mean, that's what we said she should have done. It's just lean into this the whole season and be the victim of what happened to you. Not even necessarily be the victim, but what I got from Shamiya talking about her that night, her leaning into it was like kind of making jokes about it and just like, kind of writing it off immediately,

getting it roll off her shoulder. I think if she had taken that, maybe this just isn't her personality, but I wish that she had taken it that way, and I really don't like Britain, I don't think I ever would. Her whole season would have changed if she was able to just let that roll off.

Yeah. And we agree that when you go to that, whatever that brunch thing is, that Kelly set out the next day or two days later, she got really heated and really activated very quickly about other things that weren't about that. And I don't think that she really should have done that. There's just so many different ways that she could have gone about this season

And every single way should have been easy Would have been easy if she had just leaned into it The way that she did that night But at the same time, it's almost like I don't fucking know Maybe she was just putting on a brave face Or it's like that Janet and Jason stuff from the valley Where she did that

Then she went home and she sat on it and thought about it And she's like, ooh, I could take this a whole different way I can use this To catapult me into stardom well that didn't work it didn't work that didn't work at all and britt work in the valley either nope and britt's big claim is that kenya was gunn for since day one and all of the ladies agree i don't think so she was just being dismissive rude yeah like that's the thing she didn't give a shit who you were she was making a little jab at the ring and you took that way too personally and it became a sticking point i remember when that happened both was like what the fuck's the problem yeah why are we getting so far into this. She made that conversation so much worse. I know. And it was just like a, I don't want to say innocent when it comes to what Kenya said, but it was just a question.

You can answer it a couple different ways. Yeah, I know. But this was wild to me. And I can't believe that this was a thing. But, you know, Andy brings up the fact that Cynthia had grace for Brit, but didn't have grace for Kenya. And I was like, okay, let's break this down a little bit because Cynthia's on the right side of history. 100%. Which it sucks that her friendship is ruined with Kenya, apparently. Yeah, that's a bummer. That's a huge bummer. But at the same time,

I like that she stood her ground. Yeah, and I love Cynthia. She always does that, and I appreciate that about her. She's going to stand firm in what she believes in. With the Brit thing. Yes, agreed.

The gun thing was nuts. She shouldn't have done that. That was really bad. And ultimately led to Kenya's retaliation. We all know Kenya, she's going to retaliate in a big way. She certainly did. That was her demise on this show.

But I do think, think at the end of the day, because of what happened with the photos, and because it was so public and because it was so damning, Cynthia was correct to say, like, I can't support this in any way, shape, or form, and leave Kenya standing there without, like, and she didn't. She waited until the end and was like, dude, what are you doing? Like, this is bad. This is really bad. Yep.

And made it very clear that she didn't support that. She didn't say that I support Britt because she was just joking about the gun. No. She was saying in that scene that you guys try having these photos plastered of you in front of a whole public crowd and see how you handle it, which is fair. But that doesn't mean she's condoning the gun thing. And for people to, I can't believe that she got shit for not supporting Kenya. Who's out here like, you should have. Kenya fans are crazy, bro.

Well, I mean, you remember early in the season when this happened. Everybody was like, I'm not even going to tune in because Kenya got kicked out. And then once that episode aired, we were like, oh, fuck, you did it. your grand opening. Like, that's such a bad business idea and you're just slimy for doing that. It's brutal. It's a terrible look. And all those fans online were still like,

this is what she got kicked off for. Are you kidding me? It's not that bad. People are delusional. That's all it is. And I think Cynthia understands that, which is good because she's been on these shows for so long. She's just such a likable person.

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But when we think about it, the rest of the cast did not even check up on Britt. No. And I don't like Britt at all, and I'll say it again. But when it comes down to that situation, how are you not going to just immediately when she walks into that party that brunch that Kelly through and say, how are you holding up? Like, what the fuck was that? That's insane. Instead, they were immediately on her about her mortgage license or her insurance license.

they were immediately on her about just reacting and doing all these things and acting like she doesn't deserve to be the victim like they're just not even talking about it so it was crazy that no one else on the cast even said a word to her like hey you good after that i think it got knocked to the side because of the insurance comment because after angela simply questioned it because she has an insurance license britt got pissed off now before that could they have been more attentive and asking what's going on i feeling absolutely 100% it's just it's a weird I love Angela it's just in that situation she started getting upset saying all of these things that could be happening

to her you don't have to question yeah yeah right there you know maybe a couple episodes later it's just you know two three days later whenever it was the first thing that she says when she's just venting about the whole situation and what the backlash might be

you hone in on the one thing that she said that didn't really make a whole lot of sense later just you know embellish a little bit vent let her vent let her embellish let her just go off the rails for a little bit and get it out there then she might be able to rein it back in and said it's like what what do you mean and it's funny i get it but at the same time it's like yeah let her go yeah that's fair that's a good way to look at it this part pissed me off because it's so quick and then we're done with it

portia implies that drew was involved with the the pictures that she had information she pass along to Kenya. This is instantly denied, and then we move on. Instantly denied. I don't know why we're not questioning it more, why we're not digging it. We don't have a lot to talk about. It may have gotten edited it out, which is perhaps, but we're not talking about

anything else, so why would we not be like, ooh, what's going on there, Drew? It's sort of the same thing as where we were with Marcus and Charles cheating on Angela and all of that where Kelly gets thrown under the bus quick and we just never really expand on

that and Porsche is involved and Fager is obviously involved and it just ends up going towards Fajer and we just kind of forget about everybody else. We've done that a couple different times. It might just be as simple as there really was zero evidence that Drew was involved at all. Yeah, maybe. The fact that she stayed a little bit. She did stay. She did stay and laughed a little bit. I don't know, dude.

I don't think she was involved. I don't think so either, but can we like fake it for 10 minutes so we can have something to talk about? Yeah. Because we immediately move on. to Shamia and we get like a montage of her season which is like okay we watched it we know i just don't this is it's just such a bad look when we're doing and we do montages for newbies all the time like how was your first season let's go through that usually it's just a question you ask in the first episode within the first 20 minutes like how do you enjoy your first season what's going on here's

all your best clips great awesome let's move on to the real things instead it's like we're three four hours into this thing now we're going to go through the montage of what you mean's you. I know. And time filler. We clear up the whole, you know, Brit talking shit about her daughter and saying that she made that up, which was disgusting and random and team Shemia there. And she's obviously upset about those comments.

We find out that she's got a new surrogate because they implanted the egg in the last surrogate that didn't take. And again, we're in a reunion in episode two. It's not that I don't want to know these things, but we're just kind of interviewing. structure is weird we're just you know it's bizarre and it's already a weird thing we're already stretching things here and there like i just don't understand why we're doing this at the end of episode two i don't know it's not even like a it's not like a well-crafted segue into portion no because you don't really need a good segue to that you can just stop everybody talking and

just look at the both of them be like hey where you guys stand you guys ready which is what you did anyway so we really didn't need to and again i agree with you it's nice to hear these things because we did go through this whole season with Shimea. She goes to the surrogacy. She's got Shiloh at home, going through surgeries, all Shiloh doing. Shiloh's doing better. That's awesome. Where do you stand here? Where do you stand there? Fine. Great. Little updates are great. Awesome.

Not right now. Just the timing. Yeah. And obviously we get the Pursa's shadow thing and Shamea's answer's like, you know, I'm a great leader and I'm a great follower. I'm very supportive. But before we dive fully into that, we go to the Drew stuff. And there was more here this season, I thought, and I thought we could

again talk about this a little bit longer. We didn't really, but, you know, she gives Drew her flowers and says, you know, I never knocked her singing, never knocked this, I acknowledge that she's a triple threat, blah, blah, blah. I did think Drew talked a lot of shit about Shamea. She did. And I thought it was weird

that Shamias, like, I never said that you couldn't sing or that your voice was bad or anything. She's like, hmm, you did. You said I couldn't speak five languages. Right. And guess what? I can you can't you can't you were you were alluding to a book called the five languages of love which is you know nice lyrical play there sure but that's not speaking a different language so she

didn't lie about that and that's also not taking a dig at your singing ability that's taking a dig at a lyric that you used she kind of did i i do remember a clip and that was the clip that i was referring to earlier when she was on whatever the radio station wasn't oh that's right she did yeah she is weird that they didn't show that clip because that is when Shimea did question Drew's singing about. She was trying to get her own music career off the ground. She was talking about all the things that she's doing in the studio. They brought up

Drew and she just kind of wrote her off immediately. So she did talk about it. But they didn't show the clip. They didn't show that clip and we obviously have the clip of Drew talking shit about Shamea's voice. For the producers on this show, don't like Drew. Maybe Andy doesn't like Drew. I don't know what it is. She got fourth seat.

Her sitting all the way at the end when there's nothing to talk about and she had a pretty good season, especially for Drew. It's just bizarre. Yeah, it was weird. The whole thing's weird. And like, even right now, I'm like scratching and clawing to find things I wrote down. Like, oh, ooh, like the Judith Lieber bag. I believe that's what it's called.

I don't know I could have gotten that wrong. And then Shemias, like, this is the bag she actually got. But here's the thing, especially for you and I. She pulls out what's a dupe of the bag that costs five grand, and it's like $150. We don't know that the other bag wasn't real. I don't know that the other bag wasn't real. We do now. How?

Judith Lieber commented on and said, that is my bag. Oh, well, there you go. So vindicated. Yeah. So once again, Drew not lying there. And Shemia trying to have this big, like, reveal. This is the thing about receipts, and we all know this from watching 90% of the time receipts don't land. This was a mess.

This was a huge mess. This was stupid. I do like Porsche chiming in quickly saying that she'll take the bag. She likes that bag. That's fine. But yeah, it was just dumb. Like, this is really what your big reveal was going to be. You actually went out and bought that bag so that you could pull it out.

out of the reunion. No one laughed at it. And it wasn't even correct. No. And you didn't give Porsche the bag. But we finally get to Portia and Shemia, which is really the only thing other than Fadra and Angela that we needed to discuss. We're now 35 minutes in

and we're finally dipping a toe. And the first thing that comes up is the texts. And apparently Britt says to Porsche at one point, hey, I saw the text of you talking to your therapist, this, that, the other. Who do you believe? Do you believe that Shemia showed the texts, or do you believe that Britt took something Shemia said

and turned it into I saw the text? The latter. I think, you know what? I actually, in my mind, the way that it played out, Shemia probably went like this. If she needed to, if it was just like paragraph after paragraph from Porsche, she could have been like, yeah, this is what I'm dealing with. Portia's going to therapy, and she's doing all this and that and with her divorce and all this. Here you go.

Just kind of like a whoop, whoop. A quick scroll. And then she put her phone away. I do not think Shamea is the type of person that's going to especially lead on Britt. If she did it to... She's in the alliance. Is she, though? I don't know.

I know Kelly's definitely in the alliance. I don't know if Brits in the Alliance. I know Britt and Shemia are already. Those are the two that I know that are in the alliance, but whatever. But I could see her doing that and maybe showing those tax messages to Cynthia. Because Cynthia's got other people's best interest in mind. It might be able to help her out with him. And his friends with Portia.

The idea of Shemia is sitting down with Brit alone and showing her the text message. Oh, no, Kelly was there, allegedly, because Kelly says no texts were shown. Yeah, so it just... But she also doesn't remember what they talked about. Yeah, that doesn't check any boxes for me. I just, Brit's a liar. Brit's a liar, and it's starting to look like Shemia's lying about a lot of things because we're getting into the big issue that Shemia had was the lack of celebration from Portia

that Shemia was a full-time housewife. Mm-hmm. Which would rub me the wrong way if I was Shemia and had been a friend of and had this big promotion to be a full-time housewife. And one of the OGs of the show didn't, who you're very close with, didn't say, oh, my God, I'm so happy for you. The problem is, we have a list of proof that Portia did. She called her. There's a video that Shemia sent to Portia upon receiving flowers to congratulate her of Shemia, like, super duper happy. then we get the wedding thing she didn't support my wedding didn't go to that and I just found

out it's because we were beefing I thought it's because she can't sit in the back of a plane due to a medical issue which I still don't know what that medical issue would be she has to ride in the cockpit like I don't know but at the same time she did go to your ceremony in Atlanta which at one point you said was your wedding and to the point that you and I are sitting here trying to figure out did you get married in Kenya or did you get married in Atlanta Yeah. So every... This was their sit-down conversation at a restaurant on steroids.

Right. Where, again, nothing gets accomplished. Nobody has any clue what's going on. They're not really doing anything. Like, I guess this one, they are bringing up specific moments in time. Right, but it's just she said, she said. Hoping to anything. So we're not getting anywhere.

It's a semantics argument. And it's a standstill. And, yeah, I'm leaning towards Porsche, but I also think Porsche's lying about a whole lot of shit, too. And I do believe that Porsche is saying things, like, I'm not going to hang out with them off camera. Like, that's not happening with the quote-unquote alliance. The thing that Portia does is she'll lie. She's either lying to be shady or she'll lie about little things. Yeah.

I tend to believe her in certain situations like this, where it's like, yeah. I did too. And like there is evidence of this smear campaign that also comes after they were seemingly okay. And now we have mounting evidence of Shamia doing this to multiple people, doing it to Fajra, doing it to Porsche, it's starting to be a pattern. So I'm going to hear that and go, ooh, I don't think she's on the up and up because we have all this mounting evidence. Is Porsche lying about things too?

Yeah. But it seems like Shamiya almost has a vendetta. And I don't know if she got this full-time thing. And she's like, ooh, I got to ramp it up so I can secure my spot in the show for the future. And she starts saying one thing to the ladies. And then she's going on Candy's podcast and saying something totally opposite. it. On candies is when she said Porsche didn't celebrate me at all

when I was a housewife. We already know that not to be true because we saw the fucking video of you getting the flowers. Was that not enough? And I do believe that it is a lopsided friendship. We watched it throughout the season. It did seem like Shimea was riding harder for Porsche. Yeah, I mean, it started episode one with Shamea's birthday when Portia shows up late and tries to take

over the spotlight. Correct. We knew that going into it. It's just, I guess it finally got to a point. And the way that I take it is Shamea's always known. that. That's why she said the thing about, you know, being in Portia's shadow. She's a good leader and a good follower. She's okay with that. She's probably always been okay with that. She wanted her flowers. She got her flowers before becoming a housewife. And that's kind of where we are. But I think she's now focusing on that because other people are talking about it. We get the

clip of Angela sitting down with both of them talking about it and getting it from both sides and then telling Shamea and it kind of stirs her up, which at the time we're like, great job by Angela because at least it forces them to go talk about it instead of us just having these separate scenes. And then we get to the talk and they're not discussing anything. They're not actually figuring anything out. So we don't actually know what's going on. So I think it's really just, it just kind of amounts to a bunch of pent up hurt feelings. Yes. On both sides probably. Yes. And they're not actually resolving it. Yes. And I guess they never did because they were still in a weird place weeks and weeks ago. But it just gets confusing. Yeah. Because this is when

the alliance comes up and we asked you to be in the alliance. He's like, you never asked me to be in the alliance we don't know what this fucking alliance is and this shit is like off camera stuff that's what i'm saying we're talking about shit that we're not privy to so we can't really have an opinion we're just have to trust these two who seem to be lying to each other back and forth because nobody wants to take full accountability yeah that's where i look at both sides and i go okay i feel like shimea's lying about more than Porsche because Porsche has some evidence to prove her wrong Porsche did do a birthday post that's brought up and shimia like completely shifts and goes, yeah, that, you know what, that was really sweet. She's like, yeah, and then you kept going on

your smear campaign, which she did. So here's what I think, to sum it all up. I believe that for years, Shamia has felt a certain way about Portia and living in Porsche's shadow. I think that now that she's a full-time housewife, she is taking... And she's rich. And she's rich. She's using that to take it out on Porsche and show that she doesn't need to be in Porsche's shadow. I'm standalone, but at the same time she's getting out some pent up anger at Porsche for feeling like a sidekick for so long and I'm sure hearing people throughout the season mentioned that she's in her shadow and that she's a sidekick probably added to that to make her go on this smear campaign to try to be a standalone and to try and put Portia in her place for making her feel like she was lesser than

makes sense to me that's the only thing I can put together but let's get to some question I'm actually kind of interested to hear what our audience I wouldn't be surprised if we had no questions. People are just like, I don't know how to make heads or tails of us. Just a bunch of question marks. Oh, there's only two questions in here. Nobody knows what to do. Great.

From Josie T. Bear. We got that one, right? Nice. Do you think they'll be keeping the same cast next season besides losing Brit? No, I bet they make some moves. I think it'll be majority coming back, yeah. I think there's going to be anything crazy going on. but I don't know.

I don't have no idea. If they bring Nini back, it's a different story. But, yeah, it's too hard to say. It was just such a weird year. I personally would like them to bring the full cast back, and then if Nini comes in at some point, great. I want to see what this group does without. Yeah, let Fager go full-time.

She's done with Married of Medicine. So, like, let's just run it back. Run it back and see what we have, I guess. I don't know. And this sums up everything very perfectly for why we don't have any questions from RMEB-124. Not a question. Just wanted to say thanks for.

taking one for the team to watch this, so I don't have to. You're welcome. You're welcome. You guys do this to us. Yeah, you guys do this to us. You make us do this. And now we have to watch the third one, which you weren't going to, because it's the only one that something might happen.

It's brutal. What a time. What a time. That's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. That's our show. Bro's got to go.

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