Bros & Shows - Wieners and Losers (Southern Hospitality Full Recap)

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

What's up Bros? On this episode of SoHo, TJ and Joey Bottles have come to a truce and agree to move forward. Will and Emmy have 'tuned out the noise' and are living happily in their delusion. But Emmy decides to skip work for a 'mental health day' that included walking by Republic during her shift and subsequently posting an instagram story from dinner while she was supposed to be working. The rest of the crew is more than irritated with her and her recent escapades. Michol's goes on a date as he tries to navigate the Charleston dating scene, and let's us in on why his journey to find love has been difficult for him. TJ comes up with an incredible idea of Sir Wieners, a hot dog cart, and the merch is absolute fire by the way. Maddi and Joe talk about the future. Michols has a serious issue with Emmy and tells her she's being written up for skipping work, and the spiral of Emmy continues. Austin drops a bomb at the end after hearing the most recent Will cheating rumor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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there a bad time to go to charleston i want to get down there i want to hit republic i want to golf check in with the boys make sure everybody's doing all right you know just make sure you guys are doing good hey the bros are out of check in there's no wellness check on your bros I'm Frozen Shows. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Frozen Shows. I'm your co-host. You're also joined as always by the one and only hydrated Magoutar.

What's up, you rested boy, you? It's so fucking dark out all the time now. I thought that we're supposed to start getting sun in the afternoons. And now it's dark. That's so weird that you said that. Because I was just like, fuck, is it like five o'clock? It's 324. I know.

You just said good evening. And I looked up. and realized it was not even 3.30. And now I hate it. And I hate it. I'm pissed. Should we start over? No, no.

Why is it so dark outside? I don't know. This is pissing me off. You know where it's not dark, though? Charleston, South Carolina. Hey, that's called a tie-in. Welcome back, everybody. We're here to talk about a little bit of Soho.

And, uh, let's get hospitable up in this bitch. This is one of my favorite shows. This is, this is fucking great. This and Salt Lake are carrying right now. I agree. Yeah. And everybody thinks it too.

Like they're, they're getting very good views. They're getting very good reviews. And, uh, you know what? We couldn't be happier. We couldn't be prouder.

We're just, well, it's one of those things. It's like, my favorite thing now is how many messages we're getting or comments or people are like, you guys finally convinced me to start watching Southern hospitality, started from season one.

And oh my God, this show is great. We've been saying it for three years now. So we're stoked that you guys are fine. It's not even when I told you so a moment. We're just glad you're here. We're glad you're along for the ride. We're not getting to fucking paid for it though.

I know. Where's the referral fee? I don't know, but the bribes will start coming in one day. You guys will know. You guys will figure it out when the bribes start. So far they haven't. So you're still getting very unbiased opinions.

For now. It will change. We can be bought, everybody. No You're talking like really well about Will We're like you know what He's just trying to be a lawyer

You know it's really tough He's misunderstood He's just misunderstood My man is reading so much That when he comes home He's just tired So I don't blame him for going off You know what I mean

Yeah Did he cheat or was he so tired That he just fell asleep in some other girls bed I don't know I don't know Nobody will ever No fuck that I can't even fake that one We're gonna find out that Will

will got a highfalutin law job as he says and then all of a sudden we're going to start talking differently about him either he sued us or he's paying us so one of those two things happened yeah we either got served or uh we got a check so just wait and see we'll just wait and see but let's start this bad boy off we we pick up where we left off with tj and joe and they acknowledge that there's been some distance between the two of them after this whole thing and you know I'm confused by later what happened because again if we recap what Joe said I was drunk and I touched you

but then Joe doubles down and says you know we snuggled like it was a cuddle sesh because I thought you were a girl and I was really really drunk I'm not entirely sure I don't know if we'll ever get the full story about this whole thing I don't think we need to be privy to that you know what I don't think so either I don't think the details are as important as the feelings, you know what I mean? And I get it too. Like, TJ needs to be able to share his experience. I fully understand that

part of it. We both thought the way that he went about it was not cool. But we can leave some things out there. We don't need to know. You know what? Let the two of them get together. If they're cool at the end of the day and they're friends, fine by me because I'd rather than be friends. I think they need to be friends. I think they should be friends. They have a very good friendship when they're good. I want that for them. I don't need to know the things that happens before you know what i mean i don't either wash it then why can't we i agree with that's that's a good take on it but you know jo's like we haven't really talked about it and tj's like we've never talked about it and so what this scene did do for me because again we thought the way

that tj handled it could have gone better again we did acknowledge last week when he said why can i speak on my experience it did paint it in a different light we're both like all right you know what there there's some merit to be said there so what's you're seeing like he was genuinely emotionally connected to Joe Bradley. And it seems to be from this moment on is when that confusion started. He references once again that he's had some interactions with straight guys in the past. So this seems to be a little bit of that mixed in with some just strong feelings that he had for a friend of his that didn't reciprocate those feelings. Obviously something confusing happened.

And I think that's exactly what TJ needed. I think he just needed Joe to acknowledge that this happened. acknowledge that it was more than just you being drunk and you thought I was a girl. Just acknowledge that this was a moment. Yeah, I fully agree. Oh, I thought you were done. No, go ahead. Good, good.

All right. I want to hear you go. I want you to go. Yeah, you just go. Yeah, you jump in. I think it was, I think it was equally important that Joe heard him out because T.J. hadn't had the opportunity to hear him out. And I do understand that there are certain frustrations that come around that.

And we already had the scene with Michaels earlier on where, you know, TJ opened up to him and talked about how there were a lot of straight guys that you know they weren't really sure and they were questioning their sexuality and that's not fair to tj of course that's not fair to tj i don't again agree with how he went about it talking to other people about the moment that him and joe had when joe wasn't even talking about it right questioning his sexuality and then other people are kind of running with it like it's a rumor obviously don't agree with that but i can't speak to tj's mental state during all of that obviously it really fucked him up but i will say i think joe handled himself unbelievable i thought it did a good job I thought it was really well, really well done.

He listened. He didn't just get pissed off. Obviously, he dropped the sign of other people are telling me that I'm gay. And obviously, that came from somewhere. TJ didn't really acknowledge it, but Joe just wanted to get that one off his chest. And then he sat and listened to him because at the end of the day, Joe does want to have a good friendship with TJ. He was his first friend. He wants to continue that.

And he sat there and listen to him. That's what you have to do. You have to let TJ talk about how he feels about everything. And don't get upset. Don't get defensive. We didn't see Joey bottles get all defensive about it. he heard him out and he understood too and pointing out look this is a good stepping stone i think tj said it's a good stepping stone it is a very good stepping stone you're not in the clear you're

not done with this yet and joe didn't do that immediately yeah he tried to do that earlier in the conversation like all right we're good you want to talk it out let's get that out here but you know what it's awkward he's awkward but he still talked about it he acknowledged it he gave tj what he needed and he got in return from tj what he needed which is oh god he's like what do you guys say it about me. Yours a burden. But no, I agree. And I was actually impressed that I handled it.

I think seeing T.J.'s emotion is probably what kind of snapped Joe out of this whole thing. He's like, all right, this did affect you. You're crying. And he's like, look, nothing happened. And I apologize if you felt differently. And then T.J. He's sad, but he's apologetic as well. He's like, look, because Joe's like, I'm sorry for the rage text. I said some

unforgivable things. And T.J. Like, you know what? I deserved it. That whole thing was fucked. up so they're both taking accountability for what happened and joe goes a step further and he's like look i care about what people think and this was kind of a wake-up call for me that i shouldn't because i need to be a better friend and i want to be a better friend to you tj so it's a good talk it's a really good talk but i was confused because mattie's been pushing this right oh i was very confused by this yeah mattie picks up joe and she's like how was it he's like oh it's a really good combo he'd a really good convoy.

Just remember, he was telling me, don't give Joe a chance because he's gay. I was like, what the fuck? Why are you starting the pot again? They were cool. You wanted this. I was so confused by this too. And look, I understand maybe it's like, because the way that Joe is, I think that he's very easy to, like, if you were to apologize to him, I think he just wants to move on and

like forget that it happens, maybe. He just wants to be friends again. And he wants to be friends again. But I think that maybe, maybe. Maddie's just trying to let him know, like, hey, you don't have to just immediately be okay with this. You don't have to just immediately, yeah, tread lightly a little bit. Like, just because he's back in and you guys are good and you're going to work on it doesn't

mean you should fully trust him. So I think maybe that's what she was doing? And look, that could just be a good girlfriend move. Who knows? I was just taking back. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing, Maddie? I was like, you've wanted this for so long and it's happening and you fucking threw a wrenching to it.

A little bit off about it too. And that's okay. She deserves to be. Because you had T.J. bad mouthing your boyfriend to your face. So I get if you took it a little personally. But I was under the impression that you wanted to squashed. And it appears to have just been squashed. And you're like, yeah, but wait.

There's more, Joe. But you also know Joe. So he's going to be like, oh, fuck, wait. What do you mean? Take me back. Yeah, fucking turn around. Hold on. Hey, fuck you, TJ.

Like, that's so funny. Yeah, but we get Chavon and Molly. And I will say, they are growing on me. I like these little recaps with these two. Why? Because they're in their apartment, having their conversation. That's what I wanted. You guys fucking live together.

Still the goddamn couch and talk. When they showed the camera and they were at home, I was like, Shooter's going to be thrilled. He's going to be so excited for finally filming in their apartment as roommates. If you fucking manufacturer, a scene where you have to go to a diner or some fucking restaurant, you guys live together. I want to see you on Sunday morning after going out Saturday night hanging out, just decompress it and gossiping.

That's what I want. Yeah, well, it's nice because it sets the tone. You understand like what's going on behind the scenes because they seem to have their ear to the, the rumor mill more so than other people, or at least they're more talkative about it. So it's almost like a check-in of like, all right, what's the, what's the sitch? Well, Kim, Possible reference. Also, call me, beat me if you want to reach me. That's good.

Christy Crawls and Romano, nice. Not going to lie, fully anticipated their apartment to look like a wreck. I don't know why. They just give off that strong, like, gross apartment vibes. Yeah. I don't know. I thought there was just going to be shit everywhere. I don't know why. Yeah, no, it was very clean.

Pleasily surprised, yeah. Yeah, there was neat and tidy. But they ran into Emmy. Emmy is very hurt. She feels betrayed because of what transpired at Lake Wiley, which is just a testament to the blinders that she has on right now because none of that. Just grocery shopping. Yeah, dude, like, what are you talking about? You know she was peering around the corner, like, if I talk to Chavon about this, it'll get to the rest of the group and it'll get on

camera. Yo, honestly, that's what she's doing. She's trying to manufacture different people to, like, go do her bidding for her. She thinks if she says the right thing to the right person, the layoff will, little does she know. It actually makes a situation. You're calling him into question more. Yeah.

Like, you stop. What are you doing here? You needed one lemon? Is that all you needed to the grocery store? Yeah. Yeah. That's all I did. Yeah.

Yeah, just I'm making lemons. No, why we're here, I'm really hurt, betrayed. Will feels betrayed too He's not here Because he hasn't come anywhere with me Because he hates me But yeah I feel really betrayed

And Will wanted you to know That he's upset to Okay He also feels betrayed But he's got a 9 to 5 and he's tired Not happy about Michaels either But we're going on a yacht later All right

You got it? You got it? You got it? I'll send you pictures So stupid But we get Lake and Michaels I'm stunned I really thought

that Michaels was going to be an athlete. I really, really did. Yeah, like, I was like, come on, man. But, you know, here's the thing. For all of his positives, I can look past that he doesn't play tennis because, like, he is a shining, shining star. Like, what, that's not fun. Hold on.

The way that he painted it while they were talking, I was like, at some point, you implied that you were at least serviceable at tennis. I agree. And lo and behold, you, I was too. I was a little bummed out. It was a little bummed out. Only because I hold him in such high regard. You know?

I do too. I do too. I do too. But like, why are you going? What's the suggestion to go play tennis if you're not, you're not good at it? It was clearly a scene suggestion. No, it's clearly a scene suggestion from production. Pickle ball.

Pickle ball's easier. Everyone can play pickleball. Yeah. Just do that. I don't know. Whatever. It's not the point of scene. Just go to Taylor can play.

They need a, they need another two people. Yeah, they need another duo to play with. But it's a check-in about Emmy, obviously. And Michael still has not talked to her. And, you know, he's in a really, really tough spot because he is Emmy's closest. And I figured that this would rear its head at some point just because of the dynamic of that relationship. And also because he's not, he's a no bullshit manager, which I appreciate that's why I like him so much. When it comes to business, he doesn't fuck around it regardless of who you are.

So obviously this was going to rear its head. It seems to have now because he's upset that you refuse to talk to him at Lake Wiley. At the same time, it's an awkward relationship. but she hasn't done anything wrong yet from a business standpoint. She's only done something wrong as a friend for now. For now. Oh, I mean, other than the freak out. Let's do what those dresses.

Oh, yeah, other than stealing, apparently, which, you know, debunked. We've seen the receipts. She would also be losing money from the store. So, yeah, whatever. Yeah, aside from the freakouts, but, yeah. Well, she did go home after the freak out, too. Maybe she just wanted to go home. She just put on the theatrics like, oh, this is a good opportunity.

for me to go home. Given her theatrics again at Lake Wiley, I don't think that this is like... She wanted to go home again. Yeah, but I think the emotions are real that are coming out from it. But if that's the true motive, though, she just fucking hates being in social, like, any sort of like social setting. She's totally fine. She just doing this on purpose so she can leave.

Maybe. I don't think that's what's going on, but let's get to my least favorite scene of the season. It's Will and Emmy. And I just don't like watching them together Because I don't trust the guy I know what he's about We all do There's no longer

There's no longer smoke This fire is burning so hot That it's smokeless It's just it's like a sun Nice Yeah is there smoke coming out of the sun No there's not That's how hot

You can use that fire In your back room right now To warm up I could because I'm a chilly little boy right now And I wish I had some Some fire in my fireplace But I could borrow some From Will

Some diamond cutters there brother I just made you look I'll hold my notebook up now you pervert but no let's get into this scene because it's almost like she's explaining exactly what Will wants

right he wants her to be isolated he doesn't want her connecting with the group because she's going to hear more bullshit that he's spewing around town she's going to hear allegations rumors all these other things he's got to write where he wants her because she's like the only person

I want to be around his will and they're on a boat and even then she's like oh I look like I'm going to a pageant and he still makes a weird comment he's like yeah it's probably all the eye makeup it's like shut up just stop like why do you have to comment on fucking everything

why don't you just say yeah you look beautiful yeah but try that one on for size asshole he doesn't know how he truly does not know how to give a compliment because he doesn't like her so everything she does and says is irritating to him it's so fucking obvious and that's why I feel bad I do feel bad for her I don't want to get twisted Yeah.

Like, I genuinely see somebody that's stuck. But I do feel bad. We will rip on her. But at the same time, like she's stuck in this. She doesn't see a way out of this. She doesn't even understand what's going on because she's so involved in this. It sucks.

It really does. But she doesn't do herself any favors, especially when she goes to a confessional. And she's like, you know, people from the South, they just assume that I want a wealthy husband. I'm going to turn a blind eye and do whatever he wants. And it's not going to be me. I'm like, oh, no. Oh, oh, no.

She's like, I'm not the one. You know me. No. Like, no. No, you're literally doing all of those things. What you're doing currently. Currently, you're doing it. It's insane.

You're not even married yet and you're already doing it. It's so fucking weird. It's just unfortunate because like this shows you that she doesn't see what's going on. She has no clue. She has zero idea what the hell's going on. And she has no self-awareness. And it's tough to see, even tougher to see that she's. still doing this and this is months ago and she's still doing it even more now because the

fucking show is airing and everybody is now privy to the fact that your boyfriend sucks and hates you and doesn't want to be in the relationship and is a piece of shit and now you're still backpedaling he's deleting his fucking social media and you're going to fucking town on defending him you're going to war against commenters to defend this guy that can't even have social media because it's digging up too much shit there's too much smoke like it's just It's hard to defend at this point, and it just sucks for her because, like, I do think one day she's going to watch this back and be like, oh, especially this comment, you know, like what she just said about like the Southern wife and like that kind of stuff.

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who is relaxed says that they're relaxed unless they haven't been relaxed a long time and then they're like wow I feel so relaxed yeah and then they have that awkward sharkoutery thing where it's like oh I'm gonna make the perfect cracker it's like guys do you even talk to each other anymore like are you guys able to have a normal conversation then she's like you know when this was so frustrating She's like, you know when you try to tell someone the truth and you want to scream it from a mountain, but nobody hears you? I'm like, yeah, dude, all of your friends are currently doing that. You cannot look at 12 people on the mountaintop screaming at you that there's a problem here.

And yet you're looking at the bottom of the hill at your boyfriend who's treating you like shit going, that's my person, that's my safe space. They're trying. They're not getting through to you. They're doing what you say is so frustrating because the more. that you say there's no problem between Will and I without addressing the clear and obvious issues you are having because that's the that's the hardest part even amidst all of these will rumors amidst him being a piece of shit boyfriend the whole group is still going we don't want you to break up we want you to figure it out which is also disrespectful to Emmy because if they weren't friends with Will

here's my problem with the group handling it if they weren't friends with Will they would tell Emmy to run. But because they don't want to fuck up their relationship with Will, who's being a bad person, let's not get this twisted. Just because he's a nice guy's guy does not mean that the treatment of his girlfriend is acceptable or okay. It still makes him an asshole. If

this was somebody else, they would tell Emmy to get the fuck out. But because it's Will, they're not doing that. And then you see scenes like this. And we're getting that too from the people in the cast, rather, that aren't friends with Will. You get Molly and Chavon,

that are sitting there, not friends with Will at all, just talking about Emmy. They're only talking about Emmy because they want her to run. The rest of them are conflicted because they are friends with Will and they want to see this. But eventually push is going to come to shove with people like Brad, with people like TJ, with people like Joe, who know both sides and see Will for who he is and say he doesn't want to be in this relationship. Eventually they're going to have to tell him to run because he doesn't want to be in it and it's better for Emmy. Because everybody right now just feels bad for Emmy. and like you said or rather what emmy said

they're all sitting at the top of a mountain and she's down at base camp you know what I mean she can't hear him she's all the way down at base camp you gotta climb that mountain girl yeah but she can't because she's getting dragged down by this idiot and he has the balls to say I feel guilty this thing's really beating me down is it because you're the cause of it

if you stop doing stupid shit she wouldn't be held to the fire every week by your friends who by the way they're not trying to beat her down they are trying to lift her up and get her to see what's going on and question you about it. At this rate, he can continue to do this shit for two years while he goes through law school, have Emmy, do whatever the fuck he's doing at law school, which we'll talk about later.

And then at the end of that, when he gets his lawyer job, he's probably just going to break up with Emmy. Yes. That's what we're heading for. When he says, my future plans are a house, a dog, and a hot wife like you, not a hot wife in you, not just you. That is his plan. He's going to graduate. He's going to move on to quote unquote greener pastures, which I don't agree that it's greener pastures, but that's going to be his thought process.

Yep. And it's going to leave you in the dust. He's going to leave you hurt. Like that's what this looks like based on the things that we're hearing that he's doing and saying. And that's not trying to be assholes. That's us calling it from our perspective, which we have a unique perspective here on Will.

So this is what it looks like to us. And it sucks because I do think she's really going through it. But every time that she talks about Will, it's like Will's head over heels about me. It's like, why are you always trying to convince us? You shouldn't have to. We should be able to see it

because actions speak louder than words. We've yet to see one scene this entire season where it appears that Will is present and checked in. And I would argue over the past few years. Yeah, three years. I haven't seen them once. No, it's always her.

It's like, what's their deal? I got it. Yeah. And there's always been rumors. There's always been speculation. and it's just it sucks it's really kind of a bummer to see but we get to republic and it's uh they're getting ready for service and emmy's m ia nowhere to be found and michael's is livid because now she's cross boundaries you fucked up our friendship and now you're fucking with our business and that

doesn't work with him because again he is all business when he's at work and i love that so he's not going to take this shit but they're busy and their short staff so now mattie she's picking up the slack for Emmy. She is what we call in Food and Bev, a no call, no show, an NCNS. Yeah, I was going to do that too. Nice. Or are you? NCNS, yeah.

NCNS, yeah. But the gall, the audacity to stroll by Republic with will and say, I'm not here at NCS. I think, I think this is for the show. I don't believe that any dumbass would ever do that. I think in this current state from like I agree with you I agree but given what we've seen how she's been moving and acting recently it wouldn't be that unfathomable if she did actually do this yeah just like a huge fuck you to everybody but like yeah that's kind of what it feels like because you guys I want to talk shit watch me walk by with my boyfriend all happy we're going

to dinner on time for your bullshit I'm skipping work like yeah I could call in a question how did me get fired didn't me get fired for a no call in a show no she got fired because she talked shit to love his face. Oh, you can't do that. Never didn't like that. Yeah, she didn't fuck with that. She got the boot. Yeah.

Yeah, that was last season. It's just a huge fuck you to, and like in the real world, if you do that, you would get fired pretty much. Correct. It's TV show, you know, it's not, there's a lot of implications around it, whatever. She's not going to get fired, but I think she knows that. Yeah, there's a chance that she just did that just as a huge fuck you to Michael's to everybody else, which is, it just shows you how.

warped her mind is because the way that michael's approached her at the lake was a friend a concerned friend who was conflicted and he wanted to get it off of his chest because it was literally eating him alive he didn't want to deal with it he didn't want to room with you because he had something to say and he felt uncomfortable he came to you as gentle as you could imagine somebody coming with that kind of information you blow him off completely blew him off he is not at fault at all i don't care what your warped sense of reality is you don't get to walk by republic and flip people off and, you know, I guess sort of, like, actually.

But you don't get to do that. You are posting an Instagram story at dinner when you're supposed to be at work. That's a fucking fucking insane. Like that just shows you how far gone she is too. And you know that Will is probably saying that. Like, yeah, come on. Let's walk up.

We'll walk up King Street. We'll do this. You want to say fuck you to them. We'll walk right past. You don't call them. You don't tell them you're not showing up. Maybe they'll see it. Maybe they won't.

Maybe they'll hear you. Let's do like a loud laugh when we walk by. Show how happy we are. And then they'll look at you and say, fuck her. That's what he wants. He wants you to be isolated from them. Correct.

It's just insane. That drives a further wedge. And then when he leaves inevitably, now you're solo because you dogged your friends. You dropped out on work. And now you don't have support because you're treating your friends like shit who are just trying to help. I get it's hard to hear. But at the same time, do you think for a second that anybody that's broached this topic with you wants to have this conversation? That's not a fun conversation.

Hey, I'm going to rattle. I'm going to rattle your cage really badly. You're probably going to hate me for this. Yeah. But I love you so much. It's going to be so fun. I tell you. Yeah, this could be great.

This is going to be super not awkward. And our friendship's going to flourish after this. Like, come on, man. But like I said, you see the, uh, the Instagram story. And of course, Michael's is is fucking livid. And I love that he just goes straight into man. He goes, this Michael's world, baby. It's fucking Michael's world.

I'm like, yeah, it is. Put on your all on the Michael's World hat. Yeah. I need those hats, by the way, the Michael's World hats. No, there is merch that I do want really bad. I know. I do too. And it's this scene right here.

It's this scene right here because TJ and Mike, executive chef at Republic, they're sitting down and never arrives. Why is the chef here? It's like, well, because I have an idea. I bought myself a hot dog cart. And I was thinking of a funny name. And the name is exceptional. It is phenomenal.

It's unbelievable. Sir Wiener's. I want all the merch. I want the. hat. I want the shirt. I want the long sleeve tea. I want a short sleeve tea. I want a tank top. I want shorts. I want everything. Give me it all.

It's great marketing. The fact that Brad's hot dog's name is the dumpster dog. It's incredible. So good. Yes. Phenomenal marketing. We definitely need to get some of that merch. I'm sure it's for sale. We need to look at before it gets sold out. I saw they're making an announcement on February 7th.

So anybody who's listening to this that wants some Sir Weiner's merch? Check it out on February 7th. Feb 7th, set those calendars. I'll plug that all day long. I will plug Wieners all day long. Come on. You know I had to get that. You know I had to slip that one in there.

Oh, okay. We're moving on. You were good at plug-in-weeners, and now we've gone a step too far. Come on. I got a couple more. You want to hear them? I'm sure they'll come out eventually. I'm sure I don't, but they'll come out at some point.

But let's get back to Emmy and Will, because I can't have enough, and we'll talk and she's talking still the group attacked me no they didn't nope that was not an attack that was a hard conversation that your friends tried to have with you and then they still after that dinner where yeah they ganged up on you a little bit but they're still just raising concerns and telling you the fucked up things that your boyfriend's been saying about you they still went to your room to try and console you you still ended up leaving even though you had a moment with mattie where you seemed to kind of connect again but you wanted to get the fuck out of there because you have to get back to your quote unquote safe space which is not a

safe space it's an isolation chamber you are in what is it uh when you go to solitary confinement that's where you're at and that's a bad place to be people don't like being there from what i've heard in prison haven't been yet well let you know if i ever get there anywho she says that i needed a reset but i'm going back in today i'm going back in today i'm going to kick ass and be a pro in a confessional that's what she says in real time she says i'm so worried i'm about to have a attack. All right. Those are extremely contradictory.

And you know what? If you want to be a pro, you want to be a pro, then you don't fucking miss work and walk by and then post Instagram stories. You don't get to be a pro after you ditch work. But that shows you how delusional she is. The fact that weeks later during a confessional, she's saying, I went in there ready to kill it. She doesn't realize that she went in there and she was going to hyperventilate and have

a panic attack. Like, do you not remember what happens? Is that how, like, out there you are? Is that how you're the president? in the of the Lulu land right now. Especially when she walks into Republic, like nothing fucking happened. It's just crazy.

She strolls in. She's like, Brad, you look massive. The right approach to, the right approach to is Molly saying, up, the queen's here. She's going to work today. That is true. Like, yes, is it a little shady?

It's a little catty. Fine. I don't care. She deserves that. You don't get to then have your feelings protected when you are ditching your fellow staff and leaving them short-staffed.

That's not how it works. And you walk in, rather than being apologetic, rather than understanding that you shouldn't have done that, you walk in like literally nothing happened and everybody's annoyed at you. Your best friend, Maddie, comes up to you and says, dude, you were a no show, no call. What happened? And she's like, I get you were mad, but you fucked me over. You fucked the girls over. Like, this is not you. And that's like, I wish that you could hear that part.

It's like, this is not you. What's going on? Something's not okay. like are you okay blink twice if you need help like what the fuck are you doing and like this is this is not an excuse so i didn't feel comfortable talking to michael's after he attacked me it's like first and foremost once again didn't attack you second you don't get to do that you cross the boundary of friend and boss he is still your boss you should be fired you're not going to be knowing michael's he is such a professional and cares about his job he's not

going to talk to you about Will while you're at work. Were you afraid that you were going to walk in there? Like, you should know him better than that. We watch him on TV and we know him better than that. He's not going to sit there and pull you aside at work and say, hey, we need to talk about this. Let's try to squash this or whatever. He's fucking focused on his job.

Somebody else might, but they probably don't want to broach the subject with you after your panic attack last time at the lake. So they're probably going to leave you alone and it would show them a lot more if you were to show up for work and not talk about anything. And be apologetic. Just be normal. Yeah, maybe apologetic. maybe you know don't talk about it at all that would probably be best yeah let's just act like it

didn't happen i don't give a shit move on anything but like what you do anything yeah she's defensive like brad goes over to emmy to talk she's like how are you and she's like i'm sick and tired of letting people have a piece of me it's like you're misconstruing everything and again yeah i feel bad because it's because of the place she's in and her relationship mentally emotionally all that but you are just burning bridges left and right you're gonna fuck up your employment which last year, that was your full sole focus, was moving up the ranks. And I think that you've, if anything, taken significant steps back. And it is all due to your relationship. And once again, if your boyfriend gave a shit, he would try to work through whatever this is so that you were

not having performance issues at work. That's what a supportive boyfriend. Instead, he's fueling the fire. He's being a party to you missing work and walking by Republic. Like, he does not have your best interest at heart. Clearly, he has his best interest at heart. And that's driving a wedge so you don't find out more shit that he's done. Yep. It's, it's so obvious. It's just sucks, but you even get a clip of dinner and I guess Joe, I don't know why we didn't get

to see this, why this was not like an actual scene. I don't know either. Yeah. You get Joe and Will and was Brad there. I'm not even sure the entire No, this was from like season one, by the way. Oh, that's why you didn't see it. Yeah. Yeah. It's way back. It's from the original cheating rumor.

And here we are again. In season three. We've had three seasons, three rumors what the fuck and i'm sure there's more these just the three that we know about but he pulls a will smith keep me and emmy's name out of your mouth it's like okay dude like sick joke but michael's finally sits down with emmy he's like look and he's he's straightforward this is not a friend conversation he goes we were short staffed i need to write you up as a no show the fact that emmy's going to use leva is bizarre there's no way leva backs you here she's going to be upset about how you handle everything like you don't just get to skip work and

as Michael's points out, because he's all business, he goes, no, dude, there's a chain of command. You don't, you don't tell the owner. You tell me, I tell the owner. That is how this operates. Just because you're on a show and you think you have a direct ear with Leva, no, no, my job. You work for me.

And I like that he's just boop, boop, boop. I don't even think. It's where he has to be right now. Even like outside of work, that's where he has to be. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that this moves forward at all. No, I don't think this is where it is until Emmy says something. Yeah.

Until Emmy takes accountability or responsibility or anything for her. actions or at least acknowledges how fucking lunatic she was up there just do something until then I don't blame Michaels for not moving forward you can't move forward you keep it at business for now you see her out you say hi that's it you don't talk about anything else because anytime you want to talk about something a little bit deeper with emmy right now it's going to be all will all the time and that's the only thing that she has going on in your life and that's sad why do you want to do that you know it's just going to end up in a fight so just don't bother he shouldn't be emotionally invested anymore he's not he's

completely tapped out. He even says Danny goes, look, she crossed two boundaries. There's no coming back from this. Yep. You know, you, you fucked up. And I don't even think she realizes the level in which she fucked up. And then saying, like, after being attacked by Michaels, I'm sorry, I'm not going to call you. He's your boss. You're an adult. That's not how it works. You don't get to be emotional and have an emotional response to a job issue because you didn't show up for work. You're the problem, not Michaels. And again, he was trying to help you. Just didn't want to fucking hear him. But we get to the Sir Wiener's photo. shoot and you get TJ and Brad and this this could lead to I hope it doesn't I hope we just let it lie move on but as he's talking to Brad you know they're sad that Will and Emmy aren't there obviously they're still friends with the both of them and he gives Joe credit he's like he helped a lot today he's trying I think we're in a really good place we address the root of everything and Brad's like that's good I know that's been fucking with you for a long time I'm glad you got there this was a little ambiguous it's like he admitted that there was a situation I'm like he did but the way that you're framing it makes it seem like

there's more I we don't know like you said I don't think we need to know it's between those two yeah but this does leave the door open a little bit more than I thought it would be because I thought they were squashed I think I think they can be moving forward I think that talking to Brad I think Brad knows more I think Brad knows a lot more based on the way that TJ was talking about it where Brad was like look brave of him to even address it to talk about it to not dismiss it which is the right approach for that for brad but the way that he was answering the question so i'm like uh tj has told him a lot more about what happened and they're not saying it on camera which is good because you don't and you know you don't have to air it out

if tj feels better and they can have those conversations about enclosed doors fine that's great but we should be able to just leave it at that and move forward because they both know what happened whatever it was that happened that's all they have to do and they can handle their business how they're going to that's i agree kind of how we're going to do that i just didn't know if this seems going to lead to another conversation, which I don't think needs to happen. I think they're good. I think it's fine. I don't think it will.

I hope not. I don't think so. I just don't think it needs to happen. I think they're good moving forward here, and let's just let it lie. Whatever happened between the two of them, I think we might get a conversation the next couple of weeks where things are going well, and they address the facts that things are going well, and it's nice to be back in each other's lives. And maybe at that point, yeah, we'll definitely address that reunion.

But maybe at that point would be a good time to put in some boundaries. maybe some just share some feelings about things you know whatever that's that's really all you have to do i don't think you have to readdress now that the the cats out of the bag so to speak i agree i think that they need to let it lie but we got a really sweet see i'm really enjoying these two together mattie and yeah i know it does seem genuine they're cooking uh joy bottle it's so nice to have them it's so nice oh dude yeah he does it's yeah but also mattie does too that i knew she was going to do that with the fucking hot pan i knew it as soon as i saw her i'm like oh no don't do it yeah look yeah don't don't ever put water ever ever ever put water on hot oil in a pan

that was the least that could have happened that could have went way worse yeah but they figure it out they get dinner quote unquote made but it look mattie's dj career we've talked about in the past is starting to take off she's starting to get some real gigs i thought it was actually really fucking cool we get scenes from next week and you see her yeah that's awesome side of a building like she's legitimate and she's she's having a little surge in her career and it's cool and it's also it's interesting to watch joe be like this open about stuff with her where they're having genuine conversations where it's like look i'm so excited for you but i'm nervous because i'm afraid that you're going to move on to bigger and better things you're going to leave me in the dust

in charleston and like i want a family and kids and this and that this is what we've been missing from this show is a mature relationship and who the fuck would have thought Joe Bradley and Maddie Reese able to have emotional conversations. They talk about the future with family and kids and everything. And Maddie even says, look, I think about that too. And I do want that. I'm like, wow, guys. I never would have thought we would have gotten that too.

And this is how you approach those things. How often have we seen shows like this where there's a relationship on screen and they just withhold information? They withhold their feelings. Deep down, we would know. We do in confessionals. We know in confessionals. And we would know because Joe would go to his confessional and say, I'm a little nervous.

What if she just leaves me high and dry? I want to be home-based. Charleston is where I want to live. Those are the conversations you need to have with your partner, not with the camera and the confessional. We say that all the time. And they're doing it. And they're doing it well.

And I love it. Who the fuck would have thought? Not only are they the most adorable relationship right now, because they are just lovely to watch, but they're also the most mature relationship on the show right now. I would have not in a million years. Not a million years. What a time.

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She wants G. Lily to come out and perform. She's like, hey, have you been practicing? She's like, oh, yeah, hell yeah, I've been practicing every day of my life. I'm like, please acknowledge that you've been actually practicing the song. No, she won't. She cannot. She has not. Her life is practicing every day.

That's what she said. And that's alarming. If I'm getting ready to her, if I asked you, like right before. on stage like hey dude did you do your research i've been doing research my whole life i'm like fuck what are we walking on to right now like yeah but i'm not g lily i don't have g lily does anybody other than g lily no that's why she's a star nobody's maybe maybe i don't know why and she's pretty much a friend of at this point we need more g lily and it looks like we're gonna get some next week and it doesn't look like it doesn't look good did somebody go to her room it's a

time lapse. Let's hope it's a time lapse and she is awake and ready to go. I really hope so. I hope that she comes out like a minute before. She's like, just wave you baby and they're like, oh, God, you get on the stage and then she doesn't know the song. I don't want to see. Have you been practicing? My whole life. Except for this song.

I do believe she'll rise to the occasion. I do believe she's going to ad lib the song. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you get. That's what you get with G. Lily. That's what's going to care. Nobody's going to care. I mean, Maddie's going to care. She's going to be upset because she's professional but people in the crowd aren't going to give a shit they're hammered it's

Vegas come on yeah they're rolling they don't give a fuck they're fine they've been awake for six days they're broke so they're they're fine yeah but let's get to the michael's and preston because we get to see and as we know michael's newer to the day love an arcade date's a great arcade date's a great arcade date to the fucking best yeah breaks the ice you know even for like a friend date too you would just go with your boys you would go with your girls just go to a barcade or barcade or arcade either one oh yeah uh i love it yeah there's nothing better so we get to see him thinking about it david busters yeah i'm thinking about going with you yeah just me and you just hanging out anytime pal yeah anytime pal yeah they even have the

they have the uh fucking what do you call it speed pitch there oh do they i hit 84 and my oh boy how's your arm i was sore for i was i was there with poppy and like That's the funniest part. She's like she obviously wants to pop around and play games. Oh, yeah. Hold on, kid. Your dad's still got it. Watch this.

She doesn't give two shits. And I'm throwing, lower body. I'm crow hopping and throwing this shit as hard as I can. And like, nobody's watching. It's all for me. And I'm like,

84. I'm like, fuck yeah. And Poppy's off like playing the crane game. I'm like, look. She's like, give me the fucking card.

That number means nothing to me. I don't have a point of records. Give me the power card so I can go play, whack a mole you dickhead yeah but it makes me feel better but anyway let's get back to this we get it's a very cute date you know they have a little like cheese moment where he like wipes the cheese off his lip and he's like oh you didn't use your tongue that time he's like ah i'll do that with frosting i'm like oh this is cute you guys are cute i like the vibe horrible but what i didn't expect was michael's to dive in much further with everything because he was talking about the fact

that he went home his mom's still super distant as we know she's not cool ever since he came out as gay she doesn't accept it she's not discussing it with him she's pretty much iced him out he says a stepdad doesn't really give a shit he's kind of whatever about the whole thing but there's disconnect with his mom really rattled him and he goes further into it talking about how he had friends that came out uh when he was in high school i guess and watched as their parents are very accepting and very open to the idea so he had this preconceived notion that it would be the same with his family didn't get that warm reception from them and it has since affected his relationship Entirely with men in Charleston dating in general with dudes like he doesn't have the ability to fall in love. He says he feels he cannot be loved because he is not worthy of it because that's how his mom made him feel and my heart broke for him when he's crying about this because you can tell yeah because you can tell that this really messes with him and look with look Michaels you definitely deserve love pal you deserve your night and shining armor to sweep you off your feet and take you to arcades and

and, and go do Charleston shit together. I don't know what their boats. You guys do boats. Yeah, boats were boats, boats and, uh, maybe not, no, Emmy and Will went on a boat. So yeah, don't go on the boat. I mean, it's bad. You find, find something, Charleston, but you do you deserve your own, pal.

Yeah, make it your own. And I just was really sad because like, for all intents and purposes, Michael's is a catch. He's successful. He's driven. He's going to college. He's very handsome. He's mature. he's 21 going on 35 like you deserve it all pal don't let anyone tell you differently but

hopefully we see that work itself out throughout the season you guys i mean his his storyline that and less of emmy and will same but this is what what other shows should take note of and why we are so invested in the one-on-one scenes when michael's is doing his thing because we really like him because we've grown to know him and he's been so open about his journey in such a short amount I know. It's impressive. And so that's why when you get a scene like this, you want to know more. We're in other shows with other people, we get these scenes and we're like, don't fucking care because I don't care about this person because you've done a bad job presenting them to us. And a lot of credit goes to Michael's himself for being this open with the whole process. But yeah, I think he's a star. I think he's a star. Oh, no, Molly's on Southern Charm. I was going to say Molly, but that's Molly from Southern Charm. Different newcomers. Yeah.

all right charleston anyway yeah chalston they're not from boston i don't know where that came from fuck is that chalston and borg i think there is maybe that's what i got i don't know shut up republic because we're at republic and the crew's going to vegas and everyone's stoked everyone's excited fuck yeah let's not bring the vibe down austin let's not do that but do emmy and will get invited to Vegas though i believe so because we get the the scenes from and you see will in the crowd. So I believe they do, which they need to. No, fuck that.

They need to be in a group setting. Like with Will there. They need him there. He hasn't been there. So like we need this moment where they can call him out in front and be like, all right, dude, defend yourself in front of her. Nothing comes of it. She's spoken for you for, yeah, clearly, because they're still doing this bullshit.

But like, I need that moment for this season to be a success. I think I'm just like, I'm so turned off by the idea of then. I totally get it. Just doing anything. Anytime they come on screen, I'm like, uh, it was actually kind of fun originally because it's like, oh, what kind of mess are we going to get into this time? What kind of lies is Will going to say this time? And now I'm like, I, well, now because it's the same. It's the same shit we've seen for three years.

He's just doing it again and he's doing it grander fashion because now, according to Austin, he brings up a room where he went out and there was some law students there that he knew. They also went to school with Will and he heard some shit that he's doing some hard cheating. He hard cheated on Emmy. And he goes, we're getting so close to the law prom. We are getting so close to the law prom thing. I know. We're so right.

I know we're right. I fucking know it. I'm going to clip this. Everybody pay attention. We here at Bros. And shows are calling right now, Will 100% took another woman to law prom. We actually said this about six weeks ago,

but right now is when we're saying it again. It's the official statement. it's going to happen bet on it we'll even take prop bets if you think we're wrong there's no fucking way he didn't but he heard that he cheated on emmy he fucked somebody at a party and he just stumbled upon it and everybody's rattled and i think that what you're seeing isn't so much like oh my god i can't believe he did that it's more like this is the confirmation we really need this is our this is for them the straw that broke the camels back they're like all right dude fuck this like we can take the gloves off we don't have to do this anymore like we

tried to be so nice and just reach her. And now that we have this information, it's like, it's confirmation. Like, no, that you can't continue to do this. You can't continue to just make excuses, float around it, float around it, just deny, deny, deny, and continue to live in the Luland. We have confirmation. He cheated on you at law school. You guys are dating.

I don't care what you say. I want to see what the fucking spin is going to be like, oh, yeah, we got into a fight and we were broken up for a day or two. And he just went and, like, hooked up with somebody. And he told me, he told me, guys he came home and told me he told me that they went to the bathroom because her dog died oh god that's what happened but again but let's let's note the source yep right like it's awesome austin's arrived yeah he hasn't done shit so like he's yeah he's arrived castles yeah he's over

there building sand castles and lifting logs in the woods so like this dude's saying it yeah rocking he's doing his thing austin's i've been in austin fans it's day one so he's finally arrived but again know your source. If this dude's saying it, I do not think for one second that Austin's out in Charleston digging for dirt on Emmy and Will. I don't think he gives a fine. So if he stumbles upon this. He probably tries to avoid it to be honest. Yeah, dude, he doesn't want this kind of stuff in his head when he's doing a power clean with a log. You got to be thinking about your form. So if you take it from him, I don't know how you would deny it, especially if there's multiple sources on King Street talking about this shit. It's just more smoke to this ever-burning inferno that Will has started. And I'm just so curious because we know they're still together. How on earth do you spin zone this one? What are you going to say to spin zone this? Like, give me your prediction.

I think I just told you that. I'm telling you, it's going to be either, obviously, it could go the way of, yeah, it could go the way of, no, they're lying, they don't even know me, who'd you hear that from and just try to deny deny deny that's like the most obvious one i think it's going to be we had a rough patch we were broken up for a week whatever happened during that week is will's business that's what i think is a possibility either way it's going to suck it's going to be so stupid i just i i don't know i tripped and fell and yeah ended up having sex i don't know what happened that's just sir your wiener's getting you in trouble

Nice. There you go. I love that. God, I love that. Yeah, we came full circle. Forty-five minutes later. You're welcome. Let's get to some questions about this dog-shit relationship. First one up here from Mama Christina and Diane. Do you think Joe Bradley and Maddie will go the distance? Boy, I hope so. We hope so. I said it last week. I will be devastated if they ever break up. We'll both be crushed. Yeah. So we really hope so. I'm just going to take a dark turn from reshivius.

Have the pros ever no-called, no-show to a job? Yeah, but I was hammered. Yeah, I did too. I had a job at a footwear company out in college, and then I transferred back for a summer job to go back to Philadelphia, and the first time I showed up, they wanted me to start from square one, because that's what we always do when we transfer,

even though I was working there for two years. I didn't go the next time I had no-called-no-show, just never showed back up. Yeah, that's a good way to do it. Later. Deuces. from M. Perham 033. Why is G.L.A. barely on the show. We don't know.

I have no idea. I don't really know especially she's not doing anything. Maddie's concerned because she has a voyage. She's jet-setting and taking ayahuasca, I guess. I don't know. Maybe she just wants to like, G-Li seems like somebody who just can't be bottled up. So she felt like being around to be on the show all the time was kind of like constricting her movements. And she just needs to

flow, you know? So maybe she came to producers and said that and they're like, okay, you can just kind of be on every once in a while if you want to. And she's like, great. See ya. Yeah, I don't know. Down to Touloum. From Max June, more or less love on the show. I think

she's on the perfect amount. Yeah. Yeah, she's doing. She is the overseer and it's working very well. I don't think she needs to be on Southern Charm anymore, but, you know. No, she's really good at this conversation. She comes in. It's also a different vibe because she's the boss and I also love the Lamar

Lamar's just not on the show he's just he is he is the faceless just you know anytime you hear that by the way met him awesome dude very intimidating like you can tell like he's just all busy I don't know there's just something about him and not a negative way

like I didn't know a very positive way but he was just so you know what he is he's just so cool like he's so cool he walked by me and said hi he was like very nice they just went back and sat by himself in a booth and just like kicked back and I was like wow that guy's really fucking cool yeah he's got more yeah that's a good dude exactly he got he's got a very good aura uh do one you got another one I got one for here from uh Corey

Blakely zero zero seven if you were Michaels would you have fired Emmy for the no call no show and the events after I don't think he's suspense I don't think he has that kind of power I think if this was the real world and you know what she's going through I would least suspend her yeah i mean at the very least she needs to be suspended after this right up i i don't think we've seen the end of this i think leva will get involved i think that's when we'll see a bit levy scene yeah do one more from emily perillo 14 or perio sorry if i pronounce it not wrong do you feel like emmy is being just a tad over dramatic just for the show no and that's the alarming thing i think that just is a testament to where she's at

mentally yeah yeah i agree i don't i don't think this is fabricated in the slight which is no off-putting but yeah hopefully she sees the light because like we again we're not trying to roast her we feel bad for it's just hard to defend her actions when she's being so mean to the people trying to protect her but again will's got the wool pulled over her eyes and yep she's not seeing clearly it sucks because he's getting his way content to this day dude like he fucking deleted his social media because he couldn't take the heat so weird like if you're gonna do stupid shit you got to answer the fucking bell dog you can't be fucking soft and bow out of social media because you're getting too much

shit for being a piece of shit. Like, what? Now she's, that's the other thing, man. Because now all the brunt falls on her once again. Like, he's not protecting you. He doesn't care. You're fucking defending him on Twitter and shit. He should be going on the podcast campaign to

try to make sure people like him again. Not you. Yeah. You don't have worse. Yeah, it's, it sucks. It's just sad to watch. But this show doesn't suck. This show is incredible. Yeah, way to go. So, uh, but you got anything else? Nope. Nope. Go birds. And that's our show. Bros. Got to go. American history is full of infamous tales that continue to captivate audiences, decades, or even hundreds of years after they happened.

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