Bros & Shows - Will The Real Drew Sidora Please Stand Up? (RHOA S17 Reunion Part 1 Full Recap)

Episode Date: August 12, 2026

What's up bros?? It's reunion time in ATL and we think all housewives shows should follow this formula. Get allllll of your energy out early so we can get into the deeper stuff later with minimal silly interruptions. That's exactly what the Atlanta ladies did in this episode and it was wildly entertaining; but now we get to back off a little and dig deeper into things we actually want to hear about. Drew, unfortunately, takes on a new persona every reunion and came "prepared" as she apparently didn't know how to roll with the vibe K was putting out and continued down her weird road of throwing insults. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This reunion episode is the perfect example of why Atlanta is as good as it is now. Because as far as what we discuss, what's accomplished, not a whole lot, but very entertaining. I was very entertained. It also kind of sounded like you said, this episode, and I just expected you to say is brought to you by something. And I thought you had a really funny joke, like a sponsorship joke, but you didn't. So we have to work one of those in there at some point because that's, That would be a lot of fun. Yeah, you are right.

I actually really wrapping my brain right now. Did we even, we didn't tackle any topics. Anything. Not really. We just like referenced things. Yeah, it was just, it was an update. It was honestly an update. Like, hey, where are you guys at now?

You guys friends? Is anything repairable? No. Okay. Cool. You guys go. How about that? How about we just let you guys go?

It's the easiest job Andy's ever done. As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man. It's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm karma.

And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by everyone's favorite Reunion Goots.

Who is checking out his shirt. We get it, dude. It's a cool shirt. What's the, yeah, but I thought it was a cheese steak. Now I'm questioning it because there's like some greenery on here and that there shouldn't be greenery. It's so funny. You said that because I've had the same thought process the last time you wore this shirt because it's a great shirt. But I was confused as to what I'm looking at because initially I thought cheese steak.

Yeah. I'm closer. Yeah. Very close. That's great. All right. Is that a meatball sub? No.

No. No. There's like cheese whizzes. on here, I think, and then ketchup, which is fine. I thought that those look like red peppers. I think the dripping is ketchup. This is riveting stuff, by the way. People are listening and not watching.

This is great stuff. Just another reason to go to YouTube. Let me look it up. Philly's sandwich shirt. It's like it's Mitchell at Ness, too, so it should be official. I just don't know what it is. What if it was a Schmitt, now it's not a Schmitter. No, it's not.

It's closer to a Schmitter than it is. A cheese steak, right? God, could you imagine how embarrassing that is for an official Philly's T-shirt to have like a terrible cheese steak on it? Like, uh, yeah, there's, uh, we're going to put broccoli rob on here. I'm looking at it. I got it. It's called the Burgundy Goodies graphic shirt is what it's called. So that's not helpful.

Did they just mash like a bunch of different sandwiches together? Like this is Philly. This is what we do. Okay. So that is ketchup. I can see a ketchup now. Yeah, I'm colorblind too So it really doesn't help

I don't know Dude that's contextual Who the fuck puts lettuce on it is like a cheese steak hoagie It doesn't even that's the funny thing is it doesn't really look like lettuce Like I think it is lettuce but it's like cartoon lettuce Like parsley or broccoli Rob like you said Yeah maybe yeah I also thought maybe cilantro But it's too big to be cilantro

So no I'm just I'm really confused I'm gonna have to look it up Is it a rose pork? Maybe Who does that? Nobody does that No one does that You know what it does, though? It really gets you talking.

They really gets you talking about the shirt. Now they're going to see a spike in sales from people who don't even live in Philadelphia who just listen to our show that are like, yeah, it's a cool shirt. I want to get that and figure out what kind of sandwiches for myself. Maybe we'll get spike in YouTube listener viewers after. You got to see this shirt, guys. If you're listening, you're missing out. Got to see the shirt.

It's also funny, too, because when I said that they just mash a bunch of sandwiches together, I thought of, I forget who did it. but somebody put like a full ass cheese steak inside of a pizza and they called it the oh it's a lorenzo's does that yeah they're gimmicky yeah very gimmickie they got the giant slice they got the the cheese steak rolled up it's a billy burrito right yeah yeah something like that yeah that i mean whatever i would try it but i don't like gimmicky food it's like those uh gold flaky things like that burger at um west and maine yeah gold burger like no i don't a flated burger or something.

Yeah. It's like Goldslager. Exactly. Exactly. And we used to convince ourselves it's because it cut the inside of your throat so you get drunk faster. Now you're just drinking like shitty gold flakes. Yeah. God forbid we remember Superbad because then Jonah Hill's just going to want to beat us up apparently.

Oh, really? You didn't see that? You didn't see any of this. We have very different algorithms. You didn't see any of the fun stuff. He got really good at Jiu-Jitsu or something, supposedly, although a video has now come out of him doing jujitsu and he's not that good at it. And he's also like washed and old and not athletic.

But he was talking to, I think it was Jason Bateman. And he said, anytime somebody comes up to me, they just expect me to be the fat kid from Superbad. They just expect me to be funny. And when they say that to me, I just want to kick their ass.

You know, like I'm really good at jujitsu. And then a video of him doing jujitsu came out. And now he's like all bummed out. He turned into a real asshole. Yeah, I know. He had that whole thing with his ex where he's like, a fucking monster.

Yeah, Jonah Hill, what a fall from great. he was like the golden child in hollywood and now he's yeah i wouldn't even remembered him as the fat kid from super bad oh he was on so many other road street yeah grow up jona hill he fucking loser what a bummer too because he was like when he was good he was great yeah sad times oh sad times i have one more funny thing to say okay before we get into it because a very funny trope happened at the gym today uh in regards to atlanta uh this is like one of my favorite things because it paints a very interesting picture.

And I always am just shocked that people aren't aware. But I told Dev about it. But I was on the treadmill, just walking. And I had my phone up. And I was watching Atlanta. I was taking notes, all that stuff. And this older woman was next to me walking. And she goes, oh, I think she saw Andy.

It was like, are you watching Bravo? And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm watching Atlanta. And she said, and she was an older white woman. It's important to note. We know where this is going. Yeah, 100%. You know exactly where it's all the time. And I was like, yeah, it's actually Real Housewives of Atlanta.

It's the reunion. She goes, oh, I don't watch that one. And I just had to do it. I was like, oh, what about Potomac? No, don't do that either. I think it's fascinating to me. And it's very funny, not in a ha-ha way, but a very curious way, that there is a large amount of people, white people, that watch every Housewise franchise.

but they do not watch Atlanta. They do not watch Potomac. And if you ask them, every single time they're like, oh, no, I don't watch those two. It's like, oh. Yeah, but do you think the conversation would go differently if you just said why?

Why? Yeah, that would be great. I would love to watch. I change that one up. I'll be so funny. I will. You seem to, you,

I mean, obviously, aside from me watching at work, but you seem to be watching it in public way more often and get those questions. So try that out next time. I will. I'll just explain.

to me why and like jokes aside like it's such a shame because those are two of the better franchises Atlanta's top tier right now and has been historically Potomac we've had our ups and downs with Potomac but they've hit a good stride again recently we got over the whole Mia thing but it's just it's fascinating to me because you at home can do it too go up to random white people and say hey what else like hey you at home you can play along too and let us know it's it's fun and if You want to make people uncomfortable in public do that. And I'm going to make them more uncomfortable now because I'm going to ask them why. Good call.

That'll be a lot of fun. Yeah. That's a good way to do it. But yeah, back to the reunion. This was very much now that I'm like, I'm fully immersed and I understand what actually happens. Because I do think it was in ways it was incredibly entertaining because they're all very entertaining people in their own right.

But it was still like we didn't get anywhere. It was mostly just. an update on where everybody is. We did see Jarvis. We did. Don't know who that man is. So I assume if, well, we saw Jarvis,

but still no real name. Unless his name is Jarvis, that would be the best like false flag operation ever. Just like, yeah, his name's Jarvis and he wears an Iron Man helmet. Jarvis with a G. Yeah,

his name actually is Jarvis. That would rock. I know I'm giving Kelly way too much credit because she would never come up with that. But if she ended up pulling that off, that would be fantastic because that would be an absolute smoke screen. But saw a little Jarvis, got a little update on everybody. And the majority of the time was really just spent with like, all right, let's ask a couple of probing questions to just let everybody free for all.

And I actually kind of appreciate that for a first episode. Get that out of the way. That's a good proper warm up for a reunion. If we're going to have three parts. That's a good point. Get all of it out of the way. Not to say that they'll get tired afterwards or anything like that. But I do think they get it out of their system.

And then we can actually have those conversations and we can have people not jumping in on every little detail. If you just have those generalized questions, like, hey, what's going on with you right now? Everybody jumps in. Just let them go. Let them get it out of their system. That's a really good point. That should be the blueprint for all Housewives reunions moving forward. The first one is just cannon fodder.

Get them out there. Get them warmed up. Bring up some, what is it, tintillating topics and let them have at it. Tittalating. What did I say? Tintillating. Tintillating. I was going to say skintillating.

So that's what I'm going to. I have no idea. Yeah, no. I don't know about that one. Yes. I'm just going to preemptively trademark that one just in case because I do think, because that could be a number of things. Got it.

Yeah, I know. Keeping a PG, skintilating sounds like a self-tanner. And I want to make sure that we own that. Oh, I like that. Well, it's ours now. So back off everybody else. But no, like that's the thing, though. It's also that format would be really funny because it will highlight what should

actually have an entertaining cast. Like, I could watch these ladies talk for days. Like, days. They're just so good at this. If you did that with OC, I'd want to break my TV. Like, okay, let's get the topics. You know what the other thing is? It's very funny that you bring up OC.

Their voices all really irritate me. When they start screaming, especially Tamara, she's obviously the best example for that. It is so ear piercing that I just want to turn the TV off. But when we get to Atlanta, like I want to hear the one-liners. I want to hear what they have to say. In terms of like entertainment value, like obviously, again, you and I don't have a ton to talk about because we're just kind of kind of not gloss over. There's a lot of generalizations going on here and just checking in with everybody.

But I think when you let them go, the best Atlanta is when they have those one liners, when they go back and forth for a long period of time and they can really sustain that energy for a little while. That's the most entertaining. Again, it doesn't give us a whole lot to talk about, but we at least get to sit on the couch and laugh about it and have a great time. Yeah, and I think that's what this cast does better than anybody is just so quick. They're so witty. They are the best at one-upping each other. Like someone drops a really good line. And usually we see people trip and fall over their words in that case, not with the ladies of Atlanta.

And this, you had a lot of very good lines in this, but you're right. Like we really didn't get into a whole lot. We are reminded, I always forget, until we get to the reunion. Reunion Drew is a totally different human. And it cracks me up every. She is so, I don't even know if calculated is the right word, but buttoned up,

like trying to say the right things, like very PC. Like she almost sounds like she's a lawyer, the way that she talks at reunions. And I totally forgot that part. I don't love that. I like everyone kind of being off the cuff more so. And she's always,

I appreciate a prepared housewife for a reunion. We always do. But hers is like a different, different flavor. You know what I mean? It's a different flavor. but it is reminiscent of Ashley Darby and that's where I don't care for it

because that's you know I think she may have been the first housewife that we kind of coined that with where she showed up she barely did anything throughout the season we were still going through year seven of her divorce with Michael Darby and then she shows up at the reunion and she has smoke for everybody and she's got props and she's ready to go

and she really makes her money there and I'm sure there's other housewives that I'm not remembering right now because I do kind of move on after the reunion as much as a lot of the seasons drag along and we're like all right, we can deal with that another time. I genuinely do forget until we get back into the season. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's who it was.

But Ashley's the one who comes to mind right away. And, yeah, this is what Drew does. I mean, she's got props. It was an okay prop. I'm all right. But then she pulled it out like 10 minutes into the reunion. No, I feel like maybe let that hang out in your back pocket for a little bit and then pull it out of the good time.

She couldn't help herself. That's fine. And no big problem there. But I do think the things she's talking about at least are relevant, if that makes sense. She is a couple steps up from Ashley Darby, whereas, you know, Ashley just inserts herself at other people's business and goes after it. At least Drew is kind of front and center

while she's talking about herself. That's a good point. The Clapper thing it was funny, but not for the reason that she wanted it to be funny. Yeah. Like I'll give it, but it was you know, whatever. I always appreciate when Andy used it, it sort of solidified it for me as being like, okay.

That was the moment. I'm like, all right, this is kind of funny. But we do have to give props. And congratulations to Pinky. She is due in December. And she's, I, God, oh, my God, I want her to name her baby, Bravisha, so bad. I know. So bad.

Like, that would be awesome. I don't think she will. God, yeah, she's incredible. She really had like an unbelievable turn around. And now that I'm really thinking about it, too, it was really just like half an episode where we're like, ah, don't do that. Don't go over there and sulk and talk to Shimea and Kelly in their little pool house. And then you got into a fight with Angela.

I'm like, okay, that was a pretty good. back and forth, but don't go back over that way. Stay where you are. You're very good as an independent woman on this show. You do not need much help. You can carry yourself very strongly. And she did a great job. The rest of the season was flawless from her. So I really enjoy her. And the added

personality that she brings to the show really fits in. She might be front and center next year next to Portia, honestly. Like she did a stellar job. And just put her right in. Honestly, like that to me, she is such a better fit for a bigger role on this show. She gets along, like that's the difference, right? Shemia always has to be budding heads with somebody,

whether it's Porsche, whether it's somebody she's friends with. Like, it doesn't matter. She always gets into these little snafus, whereas Pinky gets along with everyone. But because of her demeanor and how she carries herself, she's able to check people without it turning into like a fight, like a knock down drag.

It's more like people listen to her and they will actually be checked by Pinky, because she's not doing it from a place of like trying to start a fight. She just try to be like, hey, let's clean it up a little bit. And she has, in one season, she just kind of has that error about her. She's got that respect factor where people are like, oh, yeah, I'm not going to fuck with her. Like, I hear you, Fanky. Whereas Shamiya, she tries to do things like that. And because of the way she goes about it, you know, she'll make a comment under her breath

or she'll say something to somebody on the side. After clearing it, she'll make up with somebody. And the next scene is her whispering to somebody about that person. And then she's like, why does it always blow up in my face? I don't know, Shemia. I don't know. They look in the mirror. Self-awareness would be helpful here.

But yeah, the issue with Shemia and Portia has a little bit of this too, but Porsche has earned it. Shemia has that big ego of I am this show. I am in front and center of this show, which certain shows, I understand it works. But I would say the majority, especially for you and I, and I get why some people like it. But for you and I, we don't tend to really like shows like that where there is one person jostling. Like you can look at obviously Beverly Hills, O.C. But then when you get to Salt Lake City, the thing that makes it so good and the thing that makes Lisa Barlow great was that she didn't

push herself to that spot. She's always been the same person that once she got to that spot because of who she is, everybody else started coming for her. And it's kind of tough to watch at some points. So I'd rather just have a full cast of like, everybody kind of knows your role It's sort of level footing for the majority of you. And yes, there's going to be a couple that are a little bit lower down, but you can work your way back up. You can have your good moments. But I like an even cast.

And I feel like with Shamiya, she'll never allow that because she wants it to be her show. And again, we talk about this all the time. It does have that feel that Bravo is like, all right, it's your time to shine. This is your show. Go have fun. But you still have Porsche there who's been there for a long time. Who's on Ultimate Girl's Trip, who's an icon who's going to do all of these things. And then you've got Shimea jock like jockeying for position up there.

It's like, nah, it's not really how it's going to work. And it just doesn't play. And she has the personality that makes that worse. Yeah, I think that you nailed it with that one. She carries herself as though she is Portia, Cynthia, somebody that's been on this show for forever since the beginning of this show, the inception of the show. And I know she's been on it before her coming back onto the show this time in the last couple of years. But you didn't have the cultural impact that your fellow castmates have had. You can equate Portia and Cynthia, Nini Leaks.

Like they built Atlanta, Kenya, throw her in there. Like they built this show and made it what it is. You have a show because of them. But the way that she approaches things, and I would be curious to hear what our audience has to say about this too, it feels like she wants that respect of being in that league with those ladies. Yeah. And it's like you, but she didn't earn that.

but you seem to think that you have. And that's the self-awareness factory we talked about. That's actually a really good point. I like that. And it's almost like a cop out too because I am giving her a way out here and saying that I think Bravo behind the scenes is telling her these things. And that's where it came from. It could very well just be who she is.

It could very well be her insecurities, lack of understanding any self-awareness, anything like that. And then obviously just looking at portion being like, hey, no, this is my show. You're going to follow me. and that didn't work out very well for her. The only thing that I've been thinking about recently, obviously with Ultimate Girls Trip airing and Nini popping on the screen immediately

is if she comes back, I don't give a shit what they do with the cast. Keep the whole cast for all I care as long as Nini's there because I think that it creates such a different dynamic for Shemia. It won't for Porsche because her and Porsche are close, but they both understand the assignment. The rest of everybody else will fall in line, figure out their role and go forward.

Shamiya is going to be that unknown factor, but it could be incredibly entertaining to watch her try to take on a NeNey versus taking on Porsche. There's so much history there and they can kind of go back and forth. A lot of it, we don't really understand and we don't really care at this point and it gets a little toxic. It's like, okay, go away with this.

If it's NeNe, instead of Portia and Shemia is still trying to get to that top spot, it's not going to work out that well. So I'm okay with that. But if Needy's still not going to come back and they don't want to launch her back in next season or she doesn't want to do it or there's contract disputes, whatever it might be, then you have to get rid of Shemia because the rest of the cast is gold. keep Kelly for all I care. I mean, Kelly, Kelly's fine.

Kelly's fine. She had a great season, like towards the end of the second half when she just kind of disassociated from a lot of the Shameda stuff. She doesn't have a great reunion, but I don't really need Kelly to have a great reunion because that's who she is. It's sort of like the inverse of Drew. Like, yes, Drew is going to get there. She's going to have props.

She's going to try to have her moments. But it's kind of funny when Drew does it because it's true. Kelly almost reverts back to the version of Kelly that we didn't like in the first season that she was on. And then we're like, all right, yeah. But she's done enough this season. I'm able to look the other way a little bit. That's a good point.

It doesn't annoy me as much that she kind of reverts back to that where she's like, you know, someone else talks shit to her. She just repeats what they said and then laughs or changes one word and then throws it back at him. But no, I think that Kelly, we talked about it a lot during the season, during the second half specifically, once she started to be more authentic, once she stopped. being Shamiya's spokesperson, like that changed a lot of things. She became much more tolerable.

You saw her kind of settle into what her role is on this show. And like that I'm totally fine with because we need supporting cast members on this show. And I thought she did a fine job. I thought it was objectively funny that we started the reunion out with the black conversation. I can't get away from this guy. But I didn't know all the shenanigans afoot. that he is amidst a controversy right now. Yeah.

And that does, oh, do you know more about it? I don't know much about it. No, no, I didn't really read into it. I, maybe I should have.

I don't know. He kind of falls under the category of, it's just funny to me, and I don't really need to know more, to be honest. It doesn't really pique my interest, but you can go ahead and Google it. I think this was very indicative of why K.

Michelle was brought on and what the role is and what they thought it was going to be. Her getting first. chair doesn't make a ton of sense to me. It's like, albeit, even though I don't like Shemia, she should still be in the first chair. Her and Portia had the biggest clash of the season. Have Angela

close to the top, do whatever else you want. Throw Kelly up there for support. Who cares? There's enough going on where I'm not even really worried about the positioning. But when you put Kay Michelle in the front, and you also have the end of the season being Kay Michelle's album release and then we spend 10 minutes or so

talking about what she's doing in country music, which again is great. And I I do like hearing about it. I don't know if it deserves 10 minutes at a reunion to talk about it. They basically rolled out the red carpet for her. So everything that happened throughout the season was just her trying to warm up to the crowd, figure everything out, try to understand how this is all going to work.

And then she kind of found her spot, which is great, but I don't think she's first chair. And I don't think she deserves all of the newsworthy stuff that we're getting. But I'm happy that we at least dug into what she's doing on Twitter. And we kind of got to the bottom of that because when we're going back and her and Portia, it makes a lot of sense.

Like you can see when we're talking about it and we're just trying to get to the bottom of it. Like, all right. Yeah, we'll get deeper into the setup that you thought happens. I like that Andy said that. We'll get deeper into that later. We've got that prepared for, you know, the next episode essentially. But for now, let's just dig into these tweets. Like, how do you feel, Portia, when we're going through the season and you're watching it all play up and you go to her confessionals and then you're looking online and she's just live tweeting everything.

It's just, well, I feel like I've got five different versions of Kay Michelle. and came shell's like there's more than five versions what are you talking about like cool that's funny but then we find out she's basically just adding another confessional in there which I think is fucking hilarious and I like that Andy eventually does point where he's like just a little advice

don't do that anymore and I don't even think that was from like a producing standpoint like save it for your confessions and say it I think it was just like you're going to get in more trouble if you do that and then we're going to have to talk about this again next year so don't do that anymore but it makes a ton of sense and going around the room looking at everybody even Porsche who we were talking about

right then and there she's like oh that's what you were fucking oh okay that makes that makes a lot of sense we're good we can move forward from this whole thing yeah she was literally like oh you saw the look on her face now black tatted real name cardel bradley CEO of the hookah company black smoke is facing lawsuits from three prominent black women including b marie of coda skin care Lala Milan and Claudia Gregory. All of them say that they loaned him some money for payroll after he showed his frozen PayPal balance of $9 million. So he showed that, saying, I have the money, took their money, did not pay them back, and is, I don't even know what his defense is. But B. Marie is looking for a million dollars in damages.

Yeah. So, so clearly, and this is, I'm going to chalk it up to Kay Michelle being a rookie and not knowing like what we bring to the show and what we don't. That paints the whole black thing in a much different light. Do I still think that she handled it well? No, I would have loved for her to reference this or something about this like earlier on when she says like I don't want to be associated with that man. I didn't understand why. Now I do. That makes a lot of sense. The tougher look, honestly, is watching Drew go, you don't even have any evidence. I'm like, oh, I haven't even looked it up yet.

I'm like, I'm sure there's probably evidence. And I just looked it up. And there is a lot of evidence. There is a lot of evidence. Tough look. Yeah. Tough look for Drew. I do think that she gets weirdly based on the reactions from the crowd.

I think she gets a bit of a pass because they know how we, her divorce settlements going, which I can't wait to hear more about that at some point in this reunion when we really dig into what's going on with her and Ralph and the custody and everything associated with the marital home. It's a nightmare, I'm sure. But yeah, you would think Drew would have a better approach to all of this? Like, I didn't load him any money, so I wasn't really worried about it. I hope she didn't. Just said that you were aware of the things that were going on. And now you're kind of speaking on his behalf.

And he had, he must have done something to get. that $9 million frozen in his PayPal account, which is, I don't know if maybe we've gotten to that point where you can have $9 million at a PayPal account and it's very normal to have. But that sounds so shady to me. Like if somebody was like, hey, I've got, I've got millions of dollars in PayPal. I'd be like, well, fucking why? Yeah, weird. But that in a different account.

I don't know. A business account with an actual bank. Maybe PayPal's gotten to that point. I don't know. I'm sure people will comment. But to say that you understand what he's going through. kind of speak in his defense a little bit and not really have anything to say after that. It's a terrible look.

It's a really bad look for Drew. I mean, we spent the entire season talking about that and even referencing it multiple times that he's coming. And my mom really loves him. And he's just on the phone at all times. Like, why is he just on the phone at all times? This is going to raise more questions. Was he on like house arrest or something? He couldn't leave his premises.

Is that why he was always on the phone and he had a ringlight? Like I would be asking no questions if I were there. Maybe. That would make more sense to me. I didn't even think about that. And then it does, it makes more sense because I guess B. Marie owns CODA skincare. And the reference that Kay Michelle did a collab for Black, it sounds to me like she had a collab for Coda. This is not confirmed.

I don't know. But that wouldn't be, that doesn't make sense if Drew is trying to use that to say, well, you're associated with Black. If she's doing the skincare thing because he doesn't own that, he just borrowed quote unquote, borrowed money from the owner of that company. Yeah. Ooh, Drew. Yeah, bad luck.

Yeah, tough look, especially amidst all this other shit. You got enough going on. You don't need to hit your wagon to this guy. No. It seems like a bad idea. And like,

that's the thing. Like we are team Drew, especially in like the Ralph thing. Like 100% team Drew. That guy seems like a monster. Do you remember when we talked shit on him like two years ago and his friend was in our comment section? Like,

like Ralph and fuck you up or something. yeah yeah he would come over and fuck you guys up in a heartbeat he owns a company that's why he goes on those that's excursions to Vegas okay like what go fuck yourself we were tired of hearing about the laminant that he would bring back from his Vegas conference where he was going to a tech conference like it was just it was very generalized and we didn't believe him so what do you want from us yeah and the first our first foray into Atlanta was the season where we watched them have that dinner at the end of the season and he was a fucking monster to drew on camera So, yeah, now and forever, fuck Ralph, like fucking basement dweller.

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I'm glad we looked it up. That does give a lot more reference to YK Michelle. was like, no, I'm good. It wasn't just like, oh, like, I don't want my, we get even more insight because here I am thinking, oh, it's because she doesn't want Dr. Casten to be like, oh, are you talking to other guys? Yeah.

Turns out, that's not a problem. They have an arrangement where it's like, you know, you do your thing, I'll do my thing, and we don't talk about it. How wild was that? I mean, honestly, like, with all the black and Kay Michelle stuff, I agree with you. I would have liked her to just speak on it. Like, that is what the show is.

Black's not on the show. Who cares? I talked up a rookie thing. Yeah, maybe it was a working thing. And it was very early on. We were still down in Dallas. And that's kind of when she hit her breaking point, which then she came through the other side of a lot better. So fine. Okay. I still would have liked her to talk about it at some point, especially at the very end of the season

when Drew tries to pop back back out with that. That would have been a good one liner like, oh, cool, little cliffhanger going into the reunion. I'll digress from that. What did you loan him some money? Boom. Yeah. I would have been sick. I will not digress from.

what like what i i don't get it i why you just say you're in an open relationship like what oh yeah i don't know what the semantics of that i'm not gonna let which a very funny line i'm not going to let some strokes mess up what we've created um but yeah i don't she's like he's done his stuff i've done my stuff you go that sounds like an open relationship to me do you guys have an open relationship no no absolutely not we don't want to label it like that okay fine like you're usually the guy who gets irritated by these labels with relationships and all of these things. How deep does this one go

for you? So here's what I think. I don't get it. I think what she's referencing is open relationship implies that you discuss your transgressions. She doesn't want to label it an open relationship because she doesn't want to know about said transgressions. Therefore,

it's not an open relationship, a traditional open relationship. Is that a traditional open relationship? I have no idea. I don't know enough about them. You asked what my breakdown of it was. Yeah, what I think.

I think she thinks an open relationship implies you discuss if you point somebody. That it's open, like open communication as well as, you know, open. It's all encompassing. What'd you say? No.

It could have gotten worse with that one. Yeah, I, this was just out of nowhere, too. And that was the funny thing. It's like, all right,

okay. Can we do it? we want to talk more about like it's i love those gray areas when they pop up because it's like what do you mean let's hear more wait maybe let's not hear more yeah i don't know if i want more i do just speak generally i don't want any specifics and i don't think she's going to give us specifics anyway because if if that is the rule is hey you know just don't tell me and don't make it a thing where they're around and i know who the person is or anything like that again sounds like an open relationship but i guess i'll let them define their own marriage if they want to do that i'm a nice

enough guy. I can let them have that. Wow, good for you, pal. Yeah. What is about the guy. Well, I do have one question about Kay Michelle since we're just kind of jumping around. And like we said, there's not a whole lot that was accomplished this episode. But given her seating chart where she is at this reunion, given the fumbles in the beginning of the season, yes, she came around very well. As we know, I think that she's great for the show now. I have no issues. The way that they're handling K Michelle, do you think that they're trying to ensure that she becomes a mainstay

because they want her to be there because of her following? She's obviously very famous. She's a very accomplished musical artist. It feels to me like they're trying to prop her up a little bit, which I don't have an issue with. It's just do you think they're trying to make her a thing because she comes with a lot of clout? I think they paid her a lot of money, if I'm being frank.

I think they gave her a lot of money. Like I said, I think they rolled out the red carpet, gave her whatever she needed. Atlanta wasn't in a terrible place. There were questions. Like last year- There was a wonky season last year, but that was the Kenya stuff. There were some good moments.

Yeah, yeah, the Kenya stuff, I think, completely derailed it. Because if we even go back to when we first started covering this, which I guess this is now our third season. Fourth of fourth season. Oh, fourth, actually. It's four. Yeah. Because we started on Marlowe's last season, too.

So I, with them losing like candy, Marlowe, everybody else and then kind of rebuilding from there, that rebuild season was tough to watch. And then, yeah, a lot of the Drew and Ralph stuff kind of took over. That wasn't really that fun. Last year, we agreed that there were pieces here and there. Like, we kind of just looked past it all and we got to the reunion. And I think at the end, we've talked about this before. I think we talked about the beginning of this season that we knew it was okay.

We just knew that they had to retool some things here and there. and they brought in Pinky and Kay Michelle, they probably paid Kay Michelle a ton of money to get the following, to get the viewership to come back over. They had good pieces. So I'm hoping that they know they're heading in the right direction and they decided to put it in sports terms,

make that big splash signing, like that big free agent. Let's bring them in. We'll really run this thing. And it worked for the most part. I mean, I'm sure the ratings were a lot better than they were last year,

even though we agreed last year was okay. This year was a lot better. This year was a very good product that they put out there. And I'm okay with that. It's not my money. Fucking spend as much money as you want, Bravo. I actually complain when you don't spend money. You don't bring people back.

You get in the contract disputes with somebody like Nini. And then you refuse to just meet their demands, even though it's going to make the show better. So those are the things that I get involved in. But on this side of it, it's like, oh, okay, cool. It worked out. This was a very good season. Yeah.

No, I agree. I was watching just how she, you know, Andy talks to her and her being first seat and all that other stuff. I was like, huh, I'd like to try to make a statement here. not I'm not mad at it. I agree with you. I love that we're throwing money at these shows, please. They should be.

Bring back NeNe. There's no Olympics or anything coming around, I don't think. That was a big... Love Islands six months away. Yeah, I use the money. Like, you guys don't have to get a new, which is kind of funny, we're going into this. You don't have to use the money that you make from Love Island and put it back into Love Islands because it's the same place every year.

It's the same show every year, essentially. you're not really paying anybody. The prize money hasn't gone up. And they make money on their own. So they're going to do it either way. So use that money and build it back into Bravo. Or, you know, do another weird, like, off show with Jimmy Fallon as the host of a game show on NBC. That's probably what they're doing.

Yeah, Gary. Put it into Bravo. Put it into Bravo. Or no deal island or something. Yeah. Deal or no deal, spacecraft. Oh, yeah. Stop.

Just put it into these shows because it makes them better. Please. I don't know. Deal or No Deal Island is one of the funniest things ever. I refuse to ever find out exactly what it is. But whenever we talk about it, there are comments from people who watch it. And they're like,

it's so much more than just picking a briefcase on an island. Like, are you sure? Are you sure it is? At the root of it. Yeah. Well, they did that.

It coincided with my show on the Food Network. No big deal. It was called, what was it, chopped castaways. And it was a bunch of like outdoor, chefs, like people that are specialized and like over the fire cooking and stuff. And it's like it is what's the show?

And I can't remember the show. I was going to call it Castaway. Naked and afraid. Oh, I love that show. I want to go on that so bad. Survivor? No. Survivor.

Thank you. Survivor. Like, wow. What an idiot. It's like Survivor meets job. Alone. I would, I could make, I don't know if I'd win. I could last months on a loan.

I could, I could do that one. I really am. confident i'd be scared for you i'd just be sitting here recapping it by myself and every day not knowing if you were alive i'd be like it's uh stay fucking 40 steals dead we're still alive rob bros is still going for now uh cannot confirm uh yeah stay tuned and i've dipped my toe into reality tv maybe i get it alone who knows yeah last night i was still waiting to hear back if shooter got on traders fingers uh last night a wolverroon gotten to his knapsack full of meat.

He's a fucking idiot. I don't know why he didn't put it up a little higher where the Wolverine couldn't get it, but I think he's just not thinking right. That would actually be fun. Go do that. I will. And you can recover it. Cover it.

My God. Oh, God. Anyway, let's keep trucking. We have a couple more things to talk about. I love that Pinky. Like, this is the sign of a star in the making. I think it's subtle.

But to be, I'm like, hell yeah. Her favorite moment this season. was her back and forth with Angela in, like, episode two or three, which was one of her bet. I mean, that was a phenomenal back and forth. She did lose, as we said, and it's so funny, the cast reiterated it. The reason that she lost was the stand-up, stand-up, sit-down, you lose. But as far as the back-and-forth, like, that was a great, great back-and-forth.

So the fact that that's her favorite moment, I'm like, you get it. You understand what this show is about, what it needs, and you don't get butt hurt about, little shit. Like she can take it. She can dish it out. She's interesting. She's captivating.

She's authentic. She talks about all of her shit. I can't say enough good things about Pinky. I hope that all of her business stuff gets squared away. So we get like 100% full throttle Pinky next season. Because given Pinky going through bankruptcy, I don't think so either. It sounds like she's currently going through bankruptcy. He's got a couple of other things going on.

But hopefully her housewives paycheck gets big enough and she can clean up some of that stuff yeah that would help out a lot and you could tell too like angela really enjoyed it and that's what gets angela up in the morning is being able to have that kind of back and forth so seeing that and again having the wherewithal of it understand i lost because i got up and walked away i lost because i let her get under my skin i got up and walked away and then i came back and it was very confusing but it was also a really funny moment like that's the thing that i feel like gets lost when we're talking about all this it's like yeah angela won it was a really great back and forth it's like no but it was also incredibly funny that pinky got up

walked away and came back and sat down and said, what are you talking about? I wasn't going anywhere. That's hilarious to me. I love that because it's an absolute curveball for the whole situation. If she went back at Angela, it would have been funnier. And I think in a couple of years, she can do that. And I'm not really worried about the business stuff when it comes to Pinky. I don't know if it's just,

I think she does. We've talked about it before, have that security blanket of like, she's been through a lot of shit, but also her husband does really well for himself. So she can take these risks. She's got a couple of businesses. She's got a couple of good, successful things going. where I think she could take the lumps along the way,

which is very funny when we get into that, talking about the finances of everybody and kind of going back and forth. And then we get to Kelly and it's like, what the fuck's going on with you? Are you in Shmiya's house? Or did you get something? I was only there for two weeks.

I don't believe you. I do not believe that you were only there for two weeks. Your best friend is not going to throw you under the bus. I would hope not anyway. That would be funny though, too. She's like, ah, you were there for like a month and a half. You're still there. You're still there, actually.

We just moved you to a different one of my townhome. Gerald said that you had to leave that one because he had a brother coming in. So, yeah, you can't stay at that one anymore. That would be very funny. But I think he can handle it. Pinky can rock with all the flow of the show, which is all really, all you really want. I think for a first season still figuring it out between her and Kate Michelle, I mean, very different paths, very different finish lines even. But they both figured it out in their own way, which it gives you a little bit of hope.

Yeah, to the Kelly thing, just to highlight sort of what we mean when we say, like, she, reverted back to the Kelly that we don't love like earlier this season last year. When she gets in these moments, right, the back and forth about the house stuff, you told us on screen that you couldn't afford the house that you wanted to get. You told us on screen that you're struggling a little bit. That was why we all had an issue with the fact that you got $70,000 teeth but can't pay your employees. That was that whole point.

So to then sit there and try to throw shade at other women on the couch for their financial standing, that's when you lose us entirely. Because she's going after Angela, and Angela, who again, just should not be trifled with goes, I lost $2 million and I'm still fine. Yeah. She can talk shit back to you using a $2 million loss and it lands better than anything Kelly said. Yeah, it lands a lot better. And this is where it's like, where is your head at? Like, what are you thinking right now? And it's not even reverting because our biggest issue with Kelly was just that we knew what

she was doing, going into a confessional, trying to have that iconic moment, calling somebody out. This was just dumb. This was stupid. This was just ill-conceived to go after someone like Angela and act like now she's still in debt. We watched all of that. We went through all of those things and figured all of it out. And meanwhile, it's like, uh, what's your point?

here because I don't really understand where you're coming from. You're on defense immediately. You're denying things that we watched the entire season and acting like they never happened. You're saying that you moved out and you've got your own house and you're really excited about that. No one brought up, at least not yet, the fact that you had to move out of that first house because things were getting very weird with you and that neighbor.

And there were other things I'm sure that were coming into it that you didn't actually divulge on screen, which is fine. But eventually people are going to start asking questions. if that's a really like inner issue or that's something you don't want to talk about and bring to light and really get into the fact that your neighbor came over and did whatever and slashed your fucking tires and was doing stuff to your daughter's car all of that shit was very bizarre and we didn't ask a lot of questions it was bizarre we kind of moved on with it but i would to hear the rest of that story don't open that door if you don't want that door open that that's exactly what it seems like she's doing yes and you know it comes from her saying throughout the season like Simon's house, Simon's house, Simon's house, Simon's house. Again, sure, is Simon's house or Simon's name on the deed? Fine. Portia's paying the bills and it's a big ass house and she's doing fine. Go naked did 10 million in sales last year according to the internet.

Like she's good. Yeah. You know, so to try to pick that. She's not her mom a house too. Like, right. So like let's be reasonable here. It's just funny. But that's when Andy kind of.

loses control for a sec and goes and gets the clapper click click and we get one thing that comes out and this is kind of your point like kelly you open these doors because now angela angel angel will always have ammo like we we need to know this if you're going to go up against her you have to know she's got something for you sure enough didn't you borrow money from gary ah you better pay gary he's suing you it's like wait i didn't take any like from gary who the fuck is gary Gary, we got George. Like, is there going to be a horse showing up at some point for Drew to try to pull us off? I don't know what's going on.

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, that's the problem. She brings it upon herself and you just don't have any ground to stand on, Kelly. Like, you don't go after the money thing right now, you know? And like then we, I do, I don't know what Drew's beef with her is exactly. Like, obviously we've seen back in forest and stuff like that. But to go to the Sandy Springs location and make a video.

because like here's what happens at the reunion when it comes to Drew. She's always, I don't want to say in the victim mentality, but it's always from a place of like, you wronged me, you wronged me, you wronged me, I've been wronged this entire season. But then you get shit like that where it's like, you throw stones too. Because you went to the Sandy Springs location, he made a shady video. And in response to what exactly? I don't even know what she was was clapping back at.

Did we miss something? Was there an offseason thing? This is the Drewism. This is, I better do something before to stir up something so that I'm involved in a discussion at the reunion. Like that's, it just kind of goes into my brain like that when it comes to Drew.

When you see that, it's an instant reaction. Oh, okay. You're being shady. Kelly didn't really do anything to you. We haven't heard anything that Kelly's been doing. She didn't do anything at the end.

She made some comments towards Angela. and maybe you'll use that as sort of a screen where you can say she was going after my best friend Angela so I had to clap back and I had to do this. It's like Angela can absolutely handle her son. Especially when it comes to Kelly, she is going to be fine. And I'm okay with the camaraderie of being like,

hey, you know what, don't go after Angela. I'll come after you. What are you talking over here with the Sandy Springs location shut down? We were just here a month ago. I'm fine with doing that. It's just having better answers

when people talk to you about it would go a long way in my book. and it feels like Drew always comes up short there. That's my point. Yes. It's like I have no issue with the shade. I'm not saying like, ooh,

how mean of you to go and make that video about Sandy Springs. It's objectively kind of funny, super shady, but kind of funny, especially if you watch the season back. Ed Kelly, while going through financial hardships, also talks like she's loaded.

So like, yeah, it's a low hanging fruit. Go take a video, do all that. But she just, just get so like but hurt about shit. I know.

The K Michelle stuff. It's like we do what that was. There was some tit for tat. There was, I don't think they hated each other, but we saw at the end. You had that kumbaya moment and then it kind of falls apart, but still kind of lighthearted. It wasn't that deep. But when we get to the reunion, everything, that's what it is. Everything becomes so much deeper than it actually was.

Like K. Michelle, when she says, of course, I don't wish ill will on your music career. Like, of course I don't. Like, I know it's a tough business. I want you to succeed. Congrats on the new album. Like, that's great. Well, all season, you're, okay, like, you guys were, the minute that we introduced Kay Michelle, you acted like you weren't 100% sure who she was.

Right. That's the tit for tat. And it's funny having somebody on this show with the repertoire that Kay Michelle has with her, her accolades and everything in the music industry, because it's juxtaposed to you, Drew, who has a success. career. You've done your thing. And I, even Kay Michelle says, there's a banger in there somewhere.

Like, you might have a, a top selling album in your near future. You just got to, like, hunker down and do the work. But it's, yeah, with Drew, I always say she has, like, the preparation. And when she has the preparation for the reunion and she wants to say all of these things, if it goes sideways or comes out in a different way

where Kay Michelle's actually being nice, she's still prepared to go after Kay Michelle. So she's still prepared to go after Kay Michelle. could answer the same way. Like, wait, it's sort of, uh, we didn't make a reference to this already. I was going to say we did. But it is very anchorman-esque. Yeah.

Drew will read the teleprompter. If you put it in front of her. And it's her own words and she wrote this down. She has a script that she's sticking to. Kay Michelle comes out. She's like, look, I don't wish you any will. I want you to have a great music career. I know it's really tough.

And I want to lift you up and make sure that you're good. I'm going to make a couple of comments here and call you and tell you that you're doing something wrong or or say that you're doing. the Pledge of Allegiance, whatever it might be. But at the end of the day, I don't, I don't want you to actually fail because that's not going to make me happy. So that's a nice way to say that. And instead, Drew's like, well, I already have all this shit prepared to go after you.

And you made that comment and like, you were talking about black and I got you red handed. So I've got a lot to do with that. But you also explain that one away. Let me just get this out real quick. I got to read these things through. It's like, you missed it. The vibe is completely shifted. And she's incapable of switching the vibe with it.

That's perfectly said. Exactly. And like to hammer that one home, the best example is we obviously talk about K. Michelle and her issues with her surgeries that she had. And she was very open about that stuff all season. Even in this moment, I respect her for saying like, look, I went to the guy. I knew he wasn't certified. I made the decision.

No, I'm not suing him because it's on me. Respect. But after we do that, there's a moment where Drew's talking about that she just got BBL, I believe. And then he's like, how is it? Well, it's not leaking. But then wants to pretend later like that had nothing to do with her. Really?

Drew, come on, dude. Like, of course it did. Call me crazy, but that might actually be worse than what Porsche did in the season. Like, Porsche could have, you could convince me that Porsche had a full blown airhead moment. And we've seen that before from Porsche. and she said, whoa, is that what happened? It's like, no, why the fuck would you think that? That's not at all what she's, and you also know what Kay Michelle's going through,

but you could convince me, Porsche completely forgot about the entire conversation that happened prior to the season, completely forgot that Kay Michelle got the BBL in the first place, and then went on and did her own thing. Like, that would make sense to me that she had an errorhead moment. Drew, this was actually what you wanted to say. You thought this was good in the moment. You could take it back and say you're sorry. Just be like, you know what?

Yeah, I didn't realize. how bad that was going to be. That's in poor taste. That's on me. And move forward. And I think Kay Michelle's in a good enough spot where she'd be like, look, it's fine. Sometimes you get a little carried away.

That's just going to be Drew. You get that pass a lot from a lot of people on the show and a lot of people to watch the show. A lot of times we even say, it's just Drew being Drew, whatever. It means absolutely fucking nothing. It's not that deep. We'll leave it there. But instead you're like, ah, yeah, you know, I thought you were going to come from me.

You came from me the whole season. So I had to get a little lick in. Like you don't have to get the lick in. you want to get the lick in now because you're on camera and you're at the reunion. You're pissed off probably that they're not letting you sing at the end of this. They're going to like, hey, Michelle sing, I would imagine. But it's okay. You're allowed to just kind of skate through.

You're going to be all right. It's almost like she sees the reunion as like, I got to fight for my job. I got to say some shady shit in here. It's like you don't really have to. That's a good point. And like, you know, it just gets confusing unless you look at it through the lens of like, oh, like you said, this is overly prepared teleprompter reading because when you you get towards the end of Kay Michelle's package.

And, you know, again, I loved what Kay Michelle said. I thought that she cleaned up all of the question marks that we had from the season. She acknowledges, like, I would have done everything differently. I was taking, you know, outside. I was hearing things on the outside and assuming that that was going on. By the way, the people on the outside may have been telling you the truth. We still don't know. Yeah.

Portia pretending as though she had zero shade to throw at you is probably not true at all. So there's a middle ground for sure where Portia may have been shady. There might have been some schemes. There probably was, but reacting to them before they take place looks bad because then the people that are scheming can go, oh, well, I'm just not going to go through with that one. Yeah. She's going to look crazy. But I thought you did a good job of cleaning all that stuff up.

But back to Drew, it's like, okay, we have this whole thing. You know, okay, Michelle's trying to make nice. You keep kind of batting her away. and then we get to the end. And your question for Andy that you wrote down is, what was Shemia's intention of telling Kay and Michelle if the ladies didn't want to be friends with her? Why do you care?

You just went to bat against her. Like, what do you mean? Why is that your question of all things that you could have asked? It's a good question, one I want to get to the bottom of because it doesn't make any sense. Even when Shemia explains it away, I'm like, that makes no sense either. You're still being weird and mean.

But no. I mean, I really hope that we get further into that one when we get into the scheme because Shemia plays a huge part in that scheme. Obviously, as we saw in Dallas when they pop out after K. Michelle kind of breaks it down in a very weird way to us that she thinks people are scheming against her with the toes and the oyster thing. We're going to get into that. You need to bring Shemia back into that one.

And we need to make her actually answer because I'm with you. Her explaining this away made no fucking sense. And it goes hand in hand with all of the things that we've seen Shemia do all season going into like, yeah, you know, everybody's telling me not to be friends with you. And you're sitting down with her at lunch. It's like, like, you don't have to throw that out there, especially to somebody like, like, Hey, Michelle, who is coming to you and pretty much saying, yeah, I had a really rough trip down in Dallas. I'm going through a lot with my body. I'm trying to figure these things out. I also weirdly thought that they were scheming against me. And now you're going to throw that in

there. Again, that's just a Shameaism where she's still kind of involving herself, but she wants to then turn around and be like, why are you guys involving me? I didn't do anything. It's like, no, not getting to play the victim at this point. And her explanation did absolutely nothing for me. So I need them to bring her back in as if she's one of the co-conspirators. Now, I don't know if there are co-conspirators. I don't know what's going on. But the more Drew does, the more I actually think that Kay Michelle's on with

something with Drew. Like we always said that pretty much the whole season, we went away with it. We didn't really talk about it anymore until Kay Michelle's like, yeah, you know what? I'm pretty convinced like, Porsche, you had nothing to do with this. Angela had nothing to do with this. Nobody had anything about Drew, though. I'm not really sure. And I'm like, well, why is Drew still out there?

What did Drew do? Because she's the one that I feel like has no idea what's going on. She proved herself at the end of the season that clearly she did know more about Black and K. Michelle knowing each other. So who's to say that she didn't go a step further? And based on her actions of the reunion, I'm on K. Michelle's side. Yeah, what are you doing, Drew? I would like to say that in the middle of the season, when this was getting cleaned up,

I said I wouldn't be surprised if Drew does have something. when they were on the bus in Dallas. I was like, I don't know. I know we're leaning towards maybe she doesn't. She was cleaning this. I started to get a different vibe. And then this reunion performance, I 100% think that she knows more.

Or she's sitting on something that she's going to pull out and be like, ha, and try to have a got you moment. Yeah. Well, I think the biggest thing that we can point to for all of that is we were fully convinced pretty much after the face time when Drew goes upstairs and calls black.

And he genuinely sounds perplexed. and she sounds reflex. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the way that, honestly, the way that Kay Michelle

was carrying herself at that time, she was a little erratic and all over the place. We didn't believe her because we didn't really know her that well. By the end of the season, once Drew pulls that out,

it's like, ah, yeah, we can go back and revisit that because we were convinced that you had nothing to do with it and Kay Michelle was crazy. Now it looks like you did have something to do with that, and you were trying to do some things.

So we're going to throw you into this mix, too, excited to talk about. He said, oh, well, don't worry, we'll talk about that later. It's like, okay. Yeah, let's get into it. Just to tie a bow on it, uh, with Shemia. Before we do that, like we go into, you know, Portia and Sway and all of that. And I think we've wrapped it up during the season. There wasn't really much more to report there. We knew that she posted. And that's how big Mike found out. So yeah, she's very happy. She's, she's thriving with Sway. I love Sway. I think she's the coolest person on Bravo. Uh, and super rich. So she's, she's

awesome. But back to Shabia. This ending encapsulates all of the issues that we have with her. Because her defense against the K. Michelle thing is, well, I was at dinner with Candy. And Candy doesn't really like her. And Candy told me out to be friends with her.

But she also says, like, by the way, all of these women that were saying that, they're not in the friend group. It's like, that's completely irrelevant. Nor did I think they were in a friend group. Like, did anybody think that she was referencing the group? I thought she was referencing like Atlanta at large and saying like nobody in Atlanta wants to be your friend, Kay Michelle. Nobody wants me to be your

friend, Kay Michelle. That's what we all thought. So for her to be like it's not even in the friend group. It's like that's a million percent irrelevant. And this is what you do. K Michelle is the embodiment, your friendship with her is the embodiment of your issues as a housewife. Because you snuggle up to her. You're nice to her. Then you say, weird shit to her. Then you talk shit about her. This is what you do. Everybody. That's why everybody's like, nah, I'm good. No, that's exactly what it is.

Honestly, when Shimea said that, I wasn't thinking about the group on the show. I was thinking her mom first. I was thinking her mom and her friends first. Like, I was not thinking, oh, yeah, Angela came to me and sent don't be friends that came. Like, no, I can't see that.

Drew's the only one, but you don't really have that much of a connection with anybody in the group necessarily, except for Cynthia sometimes, who's kind of checked out towards the end of the season from you, and Kelly. So no, none of us ever thought that you were talking about the girls in the group. We all thought that you were just talking about Atlanta,

which makes it even worse. Like that's not more people. That's the thing that Shemia doesn't understand. She thinks once again, she's like, people are making shit up. They're talking about this. I wasn't even talking about anybody.

We know. We didn't think that once. Even still, when we were trying to figure out and calculate exactly what you were doing, not one of us thought you were talking about the group. we thought you were talking about Atlanta by large. Like, no. That's so much worse, by the way.

Now, not only do you have to worry about if you're K Michelle, maybe it's some of the women of the group, I don't really know. The whole of Atlanta doesn't want me to be friends with you. What the fuck did I do if I'm K. Michelle? It's like, that's a bizarre thing to do. And that's what you do, Shemia. And now you don't understand why K. Michelle thought that was weird. Why the rest of the group thought that was weird when it came back to them.

So the fact that she doesn't get that. And again, it's probably made up and she made it up herself is stupid. And that's what you mean it does. Exactly. Exactly. And it makes a lot of sense, you know, why Portia has issues with her, why so many people in the group of issues with her and why every time people are getting into it with her, there's always a comment of something behind the scenes that we don't know about.

Something shady going on somewhere. Everyone's always got that locked and loaded on the back end. It's becoming so obvious that you would think that maybe at some. some point, Shimea would watch one of these episodes and go, oh, that's what they're talking about. Not to mention, K. Michelle rode harder for Shemia than anybody else. She wrote harder than Kelly at times. Kelly tapped out. Even amidst you being mean to Kaye, Michelle, she still had your back. So, yeah, you are the problem in your friendships. And it's pretty obvious. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty tough. Let's get to some questions.

first one up here from there's a lot of statements in here um from audrey underscore v can someone shut kelly up already yeah yeah i get that i i can tune her out because she's not saying anything of substance she's just going after people i think she did enough this season where she's okay and it kind of goes into what jennifer m2 m said i think kelly needs to go she's unlikable entitled without earning it and thirsty. I get why you want Kelly out. I just don't think she's that big of like a hindrance to the show. Like I don't think that she's she's that bad and needs to get out of here immediately.

Shamiya's the first one. If you get rid of Shemia and then you look at Kelly and you're like, oh, what are you going to bring to the show? I don't know. You can go to. I'm not going to battle you on that. But you have to get rid of Shamiah first. She's the only one who is truly hindering the show.

Agreed. Blacksmith, Trev, is it? wrong that I felt just, in quotations, whelmed by this season. Not over, not under, but just wellmed. Look, I can see moments where maybe it was just whelming and not over or under. I think if you look at it from a broader perspective of Atlanta over the past three, four years, it's been a bit of a rocky road.

Last year was kind of wacky. I think it hit as hard as it did. One, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought they were very entertaining. But I also think it's like a breath of fresh air to think, okay, Atlanta seems to be back. The ladies seem to be back on track. We got a good show, a good cast, a bright future. That's how I look at it.

So it makes it kind of hit a little bit harder. I don't understand the question. Sorry, Blacksmith, Trev. Overwhelmed is not a good thing. Underwhelmed is also not a good thing. What? Is Welmed good? I don't know.

I don't think whelmed exists. So I think the entire over or under, then you have to be whelmed. But the spectrum of wellmed, the spectrum of whelming, if you will, doesn't sound like a good thing. Let's see. Definition.

Don't Google the spectrum of well. Of wellmed. Welmed. To engulf submerge or completely cover something often with water. Okay. So I don't believe that Blacksmith Trev felt water.

boarded. Oh, here. Okay, hold on. In modern casual speak, it's sometimes used as a middle ground between underwhelmed and overwhelmed to mean moderately impressed or affected. So, yeah, there you go. Oh, that's totally fine. If that's how you feel, Blacksmith, Treb, you have to let us know.

If that's how you feel that I am totally fine with that. I just had a confusion with that's what I got from it. The spectrum of welcoming, because that doesn't, the whole thing just sounds terrible. I'm underwhelmed. I'm like, ah, I don't fucking care. If I'm overwhelmed, I'm like, whoa, overstimulated. I need a chart. right here. That's the well-ed-chart.

We could start working that in. Yeah, make sure you put a big T-M on that one. And we can end on there's a couple here that we have to answer, but they're basically the same thing. From Leah Hall 90, any opinions on the reunion looks and B-Ready 13-126, Pinky best

dressed. Pinky's dress was incredible. Kelly's dress absolutely sucks. I don't know what the fuck that is. Was that a octopus tentacle coming out and around you? Like, it was bizarre. It was an octopus tentacle. You can't tell me otherwise. I thought everybody looked great.

I thought Kelly's dress was kind of strange. I think Pinky is the best dressed. I actually really liked Drew's. I didn't care for her performance, but I liked her dress. Everybody else looked great. It was one of the only times this year that we've seen a reunion look come out, and people are somewhat matching in terms of a theme.

Every other time that we've had a reunion for Housewives this year, everybody's all over the fucking place. And if I see one more guy dressed like Jesse does on the valley, I'm going to show myself. Because enough, like, enough of the cream colors with a t-shirt underneath and, like, shitty shoes. Also don't show up in a tux.

I'm looking at you, Southern Charms. So, like, we got to figure some shit out for the guys. But if we can... Yeah, the dudes definitely need to clean it up. I don't know. Are we going to... I guess there's not really many husbands to get for this show. Yeah, I don't think we're going to have a husband's thing, are we?

I don't think we see the dudes, though. Because it's really, it would just be, what, Charles and you know what though what's Cynthia's boyfriend's name? Oh, oh fuck Prince The Prince Le Prince The Prince, yeah

I want him I want Charles In a weird way I also want Gerald Because I just want him To feel very underwhelms With everything going on Casting

I like him Castin There's enough there Just don't bring out Ralph Because I know they're going to try To do some weird shit with that But there's a no Oh yeah

And then Pinky's husband too Mike Yeah we got Jason Jared I can't remember his name Derek there we go yeah bring out some dudes we can bring out some dudes for this and talk about it i mean if we're gonna have that conversation especially when we get to angela about how charles is in them streets

bring them out let them let them go after somebody because why not that'll be fun for me but yeah like that too yeah that's how i feel so yeah i mean look i i think that if we're looking at a reunion as a three-parter i think how you let us off if this is how you got to get warmed up and then we get into the shit two and three. I'm cool with it. But yeah, entertaining is always, ladies of Atlanta. But we'll see how it wraps up. But that's all I got. You got anything else?

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