Bros & Shows - Would the Real Queen of Potomac Please Stand Up (RHOMs05ep09, SOHOs01ep07, RHOPs07ep14)

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

Whats up Bro's? On this weeks episode we had the pleasure of diving back into one of our new fav's, Southern Hospitality. Before we get there, we discuss the ladies in Miami and Larsa is causing a stir with Nicole. Julia makes a romantic dinner for Martina and everyone is checking in on their relationships due to the Lenny debacle. In SoHo, we get back up to speed on everyone. Mikel has had an inspiring journey becoming more open about who he is, and we see a friendship brewing between him and TJ. Maddi continues to lead our boy Joe and Bradley drama is brought back up with the return of Reagan. Last but certainly not least, we head to Potomac where Charisse and Karen take the main stage as we have to decide who the true Queen of Potomac is... Time Stamps: RHOM(18:45) SoHo(33:22) RHOP(52:49) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Rob bros. Fly, he goes fly on the road to victory. B-A-T-L-E-S-E-S. Eagles. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Brov Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only Skeeter McGee. What's up, Skeeter McGee? Skeets. McGee. Uh, you know,

pretty big week. We got a bird's playoff game coming up. I'm not too anxious about it, but I'll be down there. Nice and early. It's an 8 o'clock game. We were praying. It was one of those funny things because nobody knew what time everything was going to fall in i was just praying for a saturday game sunday games are brutal i got to go back to work five days a week next week so i just wanted a saturday i got that and then the options were four or eight and i'm like just give me a four o'clock game i kind of go home watch the second game relax nope got to be there at eight o'clock so night game south philly i'll be there and i'll be in rare form you're going to the game yeah oh wow well my plan is actually to drive around for about two hours and then

get in there around half time. That's not funny. I'm still like, I'm still slighted from it, honestly, and somebody asked me today, are you going to go to the game? And I was like, absolutely not. And I actually said it in a way where they're like, oh, I'm sorry for asking. I was like, no, no, I'm so sorry. I was like, you didn't hear the podcast last week, but and I went through my whole spiel to her. She wasn't very entertained either, but whatever. I'm still scarred from it. I don't want you to bring it up. You want to know, like, this is probably why, okay, my last two experiences at Eagles games consist of, of last week, like I told you,

okay, the previous time, I got peed on. So, like, those are my... Wait, we got to dig into this one a little bit. How did that happen? So it was Cowboys Eagles. Yeah. All right, and it was, I think, December. Mm-hmm.

Anyway, it was freezing cold outside, and I went to go to the bathroom. We're in, like, the 300. They were way up top, you know, like the steep, steep one. We're up there, and I go to the bathroom, and I'm peeing in a urinal. There's a one man next to me, to my right,

One man next to me. There's one man to my right, one man to my left, and an empty urinal, two to my right. Okay. You got the picture. Did I pay it for you? Good painting. Okay. So the guy on my left is hammered.

All right. He's like staggering left and right. Not paying attention to him. You know the rule. You stare straight at the wall. Do your business. Bounce. I'm standing there.

And it feels like something like brushes against the back of like both in my pant legs. I'm like, what the fuck? I don't pay attention. I'm just peeing. I want to get out of the bathroom. The guy next to me loses his mind. What are you doing? Who the fuck would switch urinals mid-piss?

And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. The guy to my left was so drunk, he moved urinals mid-piss and peed on me and the man next to me. Holy shit. Here's the worst part. You liked it. It's a different story. No king-shaming here.

It was like 22 degrees outside. Yeah. So not only to get peed on, my jeans froze from the piss. Wow. So that, I mean, between that and my... You have really bad luck with the Eagles games. So I'm just staying home. I'm just staying home or going to the Conchie Corner and watching the game in peace.

No one's going to pee on me unless I ask them to. Yeah, I mean, hey, whatever. Pay somebody to meet you in the bathroom. But honestly, with bad luck like that, I'm happy that you're not going. Thank you. Because one, for your own sanity, two, that bad luck might turn into the team. And I don't want any of that bad juju. So I'll be down there posting beforehand, prime for a blackout, talking about myself.

Okay. Talking about myself. I'm just clarified. If you do something to jinx this game, even if you think it's funny, I'm going to lose my shit. Oh, no, that's, you know, the Phillies, we didn't expect them to get to the World Series. I was having a great time. This is way different. This is, you know, religion, cultism, whatever the fuck you want to call it.

I'm not going to mess around with this. The bros are locked in. Absolutely. I got my Dougie P. Dougie P. Visor on YouTube. Oh, yeah, YouTube. Yeah. That's right.

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I can't say that word. Subscribe. Okay. Subscribe. Yeah, you're good. Okay, cool. Subscribe to our YouTube page. But that takes us to our Rose and Thorne for the week.

And we had quite a few comments. And there were some very funny ones. There were some not so funny ones. But why don't you go first this week? I went first last week. So why don't you give me yours? All right. So I am actually going to start off with my rose.

And this was something that I actually thought was pretty funny. Now, we got, just to kind of preface it, we put up a video, and we only did one video last week. There wasn't a whole lot going on, so we just did something on Jen Shaw. The amount of people that came out in support of her or just saying, you better have the same energy for Teresa and for Erica. And it's like, shut the fuck up. Their shows aren't on right now. No, they're not on right now. And also, you're making yourself look bad.

You're just defending a very guilty prisoner, a future prisoner, whatever the fuck you want to call it. We don't want to see her on TV anymore because she sucks and she's also a terrible person. So you defending her or even just saying like, hey, you better keep that same energy, you are still defending Jen Schott. So look yourself in the mirror and, you know, have a good deep thing, honestly. But that being said, there was one and you went on a good hot mic rant is what people are calling it. Love Steels Hot Mike Rants. I get heated. And they did get to see like at the end of the episode, this is what I truly do.

I just sit there and laugh the whole time usually. So that's what happens. But this one comes from Leanne Wolfe on TikTok And she said I was punching the air When you went off when I listened to the episode You're so right I got a vision of one of our fans in the car Just punching the air

Now is that like fist pumping Or just like literally like Imagining Jen Shaw's face and just punch in the air Like it was I don't know The woo Yeah it's got to be right And then this is the thorn

And again we got a lot of weird comments We're really coming after us personally Like as individuals Kind of weird This one I'm not gonna name them. Listen, Pandora and Mario. Tired of listening to you guys blaming fat elf on the shelf knowing damn well that Angie H was behind the posts. I don't really think that we were like coming. I mean, we were, but like, he's a coward of a man. I have the funniest backstory when you're

done. I have the best backstory. My question is, I get the Mario thing for me because I have a mustache, whatever, fine. I'm not Italian now. Pandora, is that, are they saying that like you look like somebody from Avatar? I didn't understand the Pandora one. I didn't understand it either, but so here's the funniest thing. All right, so I know exactly what guy you're talking about. And the funny part is, he's a huge fan. He's actually, like, he's been an avid listener for a while.

And the only reason I know this I was going through, we get a lot of messages. And I try to respond to as many of you guys as I can, but there's just, there's an influx. And we also have, like, a request folder. Yeah. And then a hidden request folder. There's so many different places to find these messages. And I came across one, and somebody, I'm just going to pull it up. So I pull up this message, all right, and I will read the name, okay?

It's Rob is your friend, is his name on Instagram. I don't know what it is on TikTok, but. So he said in a message, you guys need to stop blaming the fat off on the shelf, blah, blah, blah, the same thing that you just read me, okay? But previously, he had sent us a message a while back, like back in October, all right? So he's been listening for a while. 14 minutes in on a Rocky Richards, and you guys are sounding like twats. So sure, Andy tried to course correct after your viral vid, totally. Twots, everyone's been on the same page.

Andy has been circling the drain for a while. Did you not witness his New Year's Eve 2020 antics? He is a mess. Having said that, love you guys. Keep it up, keep your socks on, and save the bare feet for only fans. So I responded to him, and I just said, ha, ha, I love that you called us Twots and love us in the same message. Harrington stink, and we don't stand for either of them.

Yeah. Okay. He responded to me, I call my partner Twatty. It's a term of endearment. Keep it up, guys. Thumbs up emoji. I really wish to be called us, said keep it up twats, but, you know.

But how full circle is that? Yes, he's just, look, I, I. He might be going for the thorn angle, which I've been waiting for this to happen. Maybe. Where people are going to start being, like, fake mean to try to get red. Pandering for a thorn. Yeah, we're going to have to start seeing through that. Look, I am glad it came full circle.

That is hysterical because I thought it was really funny that he called us twats. They said he loves us. So, like, that kind of energy is great. So I'm glad I could at least let you know. who this was. Rob, if you are our friend, you're a good twat. Tell us what Pandora means because it's been driving me crazy and I have no idea. Yeah, I've been trying to figure it out.

I can't get to the bottom of it. But yeah, so that's the Thorne correction. Now, for my Rosenthorn, it's funny that like both of mine kind of coincided with yours. But my thorn was, it's from Marquis de Ney, I believe. I think I got that right. I don't know. Sure, you got that right. Yeah.

Look, I'm trying my best. The comment is, I usually agree with them, but I'm not for the Jen Slander. I'm not a fan of hers, but I think people are going too hard on her. She's going to fucking jail. She's going to jail. Have you read the victim statements? Have you, like, seen some of the coverage on them? It's really, really sad.

I don't know why we have to do this. So, like, defend, not defending or like going after somebody that ruined so many people's lives. Just put a blanket statement out there. Like, hey, you guys are all idiots. Yeah. And I'm done. And from here forth, other than like when we have. have to comment on if they do the Andy thing or not or talk about Salt Lake.

Like, I'm not talking about her anymore. Yeah. I'm not reading comments about her anymore. I need to move on with my life because now I'm getting dragged down into the sludge that is Jen Shaw, and I'm trying to have a happy year, and I'm not going to do it. Pulling a Heather. Oh. See, that's a bad way to start any year.

But my thorn. Rose. My rose. Yeah, I'm all flustered now. I'm all hot and bothered and not in a good way. My rose isn't even a comment. It was just, there's been a few moments along this journey that we've had where we've had some like really cool like, oh shit, that's pretty dope. Who are my favorites on all of Bravo?

I mean, pretty much the banner pumps are at the top. Right. The whole banner pump crew. Yeah. The Tom's being at the top of that list. Tom Schwartz followed us on Twitter and I, I talk to Tom. I talk to Schwartz. He knows who I am.

That was like, and it sounds so dorky and like fanboyish and I don't give a shit. You sent him a selfie of you and your Tom Tom hat? I should send him a selfie. No, please don't. He's such a sweet. sweet guy that he probably would like it. I don't want to scare him off. I don't want to scare him off.

But that's my rose because that was like an actual like, oh shit, that's pretty dope. Like he's one of my faves and he followed us on Twitter. And I got to talk to him. So that takes us to the Bravo news. We got some things popping off out of Jersey. And, you know, I'm starting to notice a trend here. When shows are about to come back on, we tend to hear about them a little bit more. I'm starting to pick up on that.

So a couple of things. First and foremost, Teresa Judice might be a free agent in about four years. Yep. And she's headed out to the West Coast. So West Coast franchises get ready. You're going to have to put up some big offers, all right? She's a megastar. We're talking like a Bryce Harper of the Bravo TV world.

Nice. Thank you so much. Sports. This whole thing's a sports. You know what I mean? This whole thing is a sports. Sports. A sports.

We are sporting. We are sporting. We are sporting. join another franchise do you think she will actually leave and would you rather see her on beverly hills or oc i'm she'd have to go to oc just because i feel like beverly hills can still stay afloat as long as they have like erika and you know derit sutton and garcell and everybody still out there and they'll you know try to pump some new blood in there i'm sure oc seems like it's dying to the fact that they're bringing back tamra who they got rid of in the first place and now they're it just looks like they're floundering at this

So, I mean, Teresa, going to any franchise would be big news. Yeah. I mean, she's, as far as it goes, she's a big star in the Real Housewives world. My biggest concern would be Jersey, honestly. I think the Jersey would flop. I mean, she brings a lot. And I don't think that anything she's doing is, like, ironic. I don't think anything she's doing is forced.

I think she's just off the walls with a lot of the shit that she does. And it makes that show crazy because there's so many people that are like, what are you doing? And they don't know how to contain her, but it's so funny because, it's like a domino effect and everybody goes through it. If she leaves there, Jersey's going to flop, I assume, and be like New York. And I don't really know where that goes. I don't know.

Hopefully she doesn't leave because I don't want Jersey to flop. I don't want Jersey to flop only... I guess your original question was just like, would you rather see her in OC in Beverly Hills? And I just completely spun off. That's okay. I like your spin off much better. Yeah, I'd rather see her at OC probably. I think that I would rather see her on Beverly Hills, but only because we already have so many

strong personalities on there it would almost be like a perfect storm like i don't even know if one franchise could handle all of that like probably not it'll probably be too much and i probably would regret saying that but none of those women could hang with her you know what i mean like when it comes down to like the arguments and tantrums and just like losing your shit even erika jane couldn't match the energy that teresa brings to the table so it would be fun to watch like someone put them in their place because they would just be incapable of matching her levels yeah your point i think it's a really good point i don't know that jersey stands a chance without her i really the fact that you brought that up i didn't even think about that part of it like who else do they have who can carry

that show literally none of them pretty much none of them no the only reason it's still like watchable and enjoyable to some extent it would it would turn into like the melissa and joe show more so the joe show and that wouldn't be a housewife show but moving on um we got some more news on cast members potentially leaving and you are the one that shouted this out, Naomi is out on Southern Charm. Yes. And we got, this comes on the heels of Catherine leaving last week. Supposedly Catherine left under her own terms. Naomi were still a little unclear on. I don't know. I mean, Catherine was pretty much not in the last season. No. I mean, she had her issues with Schleb. She forget about Schleb. No, I didn't forget about Schleb. Nobody forgets

about Schleb. But she had her issues with him and I was pretty much. it. Naomi was kind of a force. The storylines, a lot of the drama, kind of circulated her. So I don't know really why they'd get rid of her unless she wanted to leave. That's obviously fine. But they're kind of dwindling down now. And I don't think Leva's going to be in as much. She has her own show. She's got like four or five different businesses that she's running. She really can't be hanging around with that. So what is it going to be? It's just going to be Austin, Craig, and Shep just sticking around. I'm good. I don't need to watch that. People are going to check out on that. I don't need to watch that. I did see, I think they're

plugging in three new people. Totally unrelated. They don't know any of the people already, which is, I don't know if that'll help or hurt. That's so funny because it goes against everything that we've heard from the people on Southern Charm about Charleston. It's a small city. Everybody knows everybody. If you can't go get coffee with someone, the next day somebody's going to find out about it.

It's like, all right, but you're going to plug in three new people that nobody's ever known. That's hard to believe unless they're pulling them from like not a different show, but like a different town or they had people apply like the real world. Maybe they sent in videotapes. and they did a little audition. We should have done that. I don't want to be on any of these shows.

I would love to be on one of these shows. Just once, like a cameo maybe. Just like pop up in it out. Yeah, why not not the last thing I want to discuss, it takes us back to Potomac real quick, and Mia had to leave her house, move out, because she couldn't afford to live there. Now, I don't wish upon anybody being forced to leave their place of residence

because of financial issues. I will, however, bring up the fact that you were spending 10, thousand dollars a month on a rental property one to allegedly put sixty thousand dollars worth of renovations into a rental home which would be one of the craziest moves in finance history finance history yes financial financial history like you cannot run businesses as you claim to do and then dump 60k into a rental property that doesn't make any fucking sense you don't own this place You will have to leave this place one day, and you just gave them $60,000 of free work. It doesn't add up.

And if you claim to run a business, how the fuck do you do that to your own finances? I really don't know, honestly. Like, this just screams Mia's character. Like, this is who she is, like the $60,000 on a rental property. She'd be like, I can do that because I make, she always says, she's like, if you've ever watched the rest of development where Job is talking about a suit, every time that his suit comes up, He's like, ah, you're going to touch the guy in the $6,000 suit. Get away from the guy in the $10,000 suit.

That's Mia when she talks about, like, how much money she's making. She's like, I'm making like 400. And then the next year she's making $5.50. It's like, you're probably not. You're putting money into these things. And you don't even know when they open. You don't know when construction starts. Like, you're pretty much just a face of a company because G just lets you go around

and play CEO, if that's what you want to do. If you now have to leave your own home that you've been spending money on and had a mortgage on at one point in time and you've built a family and whatever, because of your past transgressions and all of the terrible mistakes that you've made financially, you're an idiot. Like, there's no way around it. And again, like, we don't wish ill will on people. But when you're running around saying how much money you make and kind of making fun of other people like Jacqueline, because they can't afford things.

And because you have to pay for things and put a down payment on a car for her. And then this is what happens. Like, that's karma. That sucks, but it's karma. I mean, you can't look at it any other way. And it's like, did, like, there was a trail of tweaking. that she let out saying that she's not liking what she's seeing on TV and this is like a wake up call and blah blah blah and actions speak louder than words so I'm not even going to give those any credit

but I just I think that you know 60K and reno like that's six more months in your house that's a half of a year in your house instead of renovating someone else's house that doesn't like I don't think that's true because I just clearly cannot wrap my brain around yeah if it is it's the stupidest thing ever. If it's not, then that makes sense. Like, it's just crazy. And that takes us to Miami with the ladies of Rom. And we start off with once again the Lenny and Lisa drama. And Marisol heads over to Lisa's house and they are discussing a page six article that came out. And this article is from Lenny claiming that they mutually agreed upon a divorce about a month prior that they had been separated for a very long time

and clearly trying to paint a picture that he's not a piece of shit. And this was a mutual agreement and everybody is hunky dory and he doesn't understand what all the hoopla's about. Let me just say this. I am so fucking tired

of seeing the clips from the lingerie party in 2011. It's like every time. It's every episode, at least once an episode. Sometimes it's two, three times. It's just that smack on the ass. That's all it is. And I'm like, I don't care enough. We get it.

You can just like gesture towards it. I don't need to see it every single time. I am worried, now, obviously, like, it's a big event, it's traumatic and everything. I am worried that we are going to get tired of the Lisa Lenny thing pretty quick, mostly just because of Lenny's shit, where he's just going to keep going and going and going and they're going to be reacting to it. There has to be other things going on in the background. There has to be other drama between the people.

If this is kind of what we're going to run with the whole time, it might run its course a little early. Hopefully it doesn't. I mean, I agree. Like, it's kind of dragging a little bit, but I also think that knowing about it previously before the show started and obviously we jumped in a little bit late so like we were kind of caught up on the drama like that's the only thing we knew about miami when we started right we knew that lisa and lenny were getting divorced and it was really ugly so i agree it is getting a little bit slow however because of how ridiculous a lot of the shit is that like lenny's polling and because

of the headlines surrounding this i do think there might be enough in there to like pull through the whole season and i can't imagine it's going to be the longest season ever because they just got brought back right this is their second season back yeah so that they're not going to be on like a 20 episode run like Beverly Hills. They might be like 10 to 13, I think. So we're already close, right? Like we're already on episode nine. Yeah.

So it could go. I think it'll be fine. And there's enough for me at least. I don't think that this was the best episode ever, but there's enough for me. And it might only be because we're new to Miami, but I'm still getting to know all the ladies. So I like seeing behind closed doors and like seeing what they're like at home,

seeing what they're like with their kids and like we're still getting that stuff. So I'm still captivated, but I do see what you're saying. I am still captivated and it really is. It's the little things because little things do pop up. And while we're on the subject of Lenny's page six and everything, I thought it was interesting that all of the women were talking about how Lenny's new girlfriend is talking to the press. And they're like, how dare she? Why would she be talking to the press?

She's a no one, blah, blah, blah. The reason that she's talking to the press is because she's a no one. She wants to be somebody. Totally. So that's why she's talking to the press because nobody knows who the fuck she is. She's now dating Lenny. There's all these articles about him. Of course she's going to go out and start showing off and be like, ooh, I'm the one.

Come talk to me and I'll tell you what's really going on behind the closed doors of Lenny and Lisa's relationship. I was there this time. And like she's going to end up screwing Lenny over. I know. Of course. Can't wait for that to happen. But it is kind of funny because like that is one thing that at least brings everybody together. And that was kind of nice is you start off the season.

You get kind of like Larson and Lisa at each other's necks. People aren't really getting along. But then every time that Lisa is there now, everybody circles around her. And like you can see that they are like actually friends, which is nice. But alongside that, and this will take me to the next scene, is Julie and Martina. How lovely was that? That was so nice. That was so delightful.

Yeah. I love that. And this is. Those scenes are the best. What I've loved about this season. And it's something that we don't get to see very often on the Bravo TV sphere or the Bravoverse. if you will. Because of everything going on with Lisa and Lenny,

every other housewife there has taken it upon themselves to check in on their relationships. And it has been really genuine moments. We see it with Gertie and Russell when they're talking on the beach. And she's checking in like, hey, I know I work a lot. Am I home enough? Am I doing enough for you and the kids? Right?

Like she wants to know. That takes us to this scene right here with Julia and Martina. And she owes her that. She's like, this Lisa and Lenny stuff is getting so crazy. I didn't want that to ever happen to us. I didn't want us to be in a position where one of us wants to check out on this. And the scene overall just made me like smile, I think, because it was almost like a rom-com. Like she fucks up the fish.

The fish looks like a mess. But Martina doesn't care. And she like makes a joke when she's eating it. It's just like really cute. You see this like super soft side of Martina that we haven't seen yet. And they seem genuinely in love with one another. And I was just like, oh. I like the same thing too when Gertie and Russell are talking.

and Russell actually gave her answers. He didn't just like, yes her to death. No. He's like, no, you're fine, you're perfect, everything's great. He actually gave her answers. And you got to give them credit because it's on camera. Like, I feel like, if Colleen and I were sitting there, we were talking about our relationship and being like,

am I there for you enough? Am I this? Am I that or whatever? There's cameras in my face? I'm not saying a word. And I'm looking at her and I'm like, don't say a fucking word. We're going to talk about this back of the house.

I don't want anybody else to know about like what we're going through because that's our business. But to see them do that there and like they're confident and it looks good. Like, I guess it is really just like the full-on, like, wave that happens when somebody close to you goes through a traumatic event like this in their relationship. And Gertie talked about it a couple weeks ago. She said, if somebody else's house is on fire, you better go home and make sure that your

house isn't on fire. That's what they all did. But they're doing it in not an accusatory way, not saying, I see you hang out with Lenny all the time. What have you guys been doing? Have you guys been talking to other girls? They're checking in and being like, are we good in our relationship? And it's nice to see.

And those are the moments that I feel like sometimes we gloss over, but not anymore. Because you and I have been talking about it before, where when we do see them, it's such a nice reprieve. And it's such a nice side of the characters on this show, for lack of a better term, that kind of brings us in a little bit closer. Yeah. No, I totally agree. So I love, I'm glad you brought that scene up. And the Gertie scene, obviously, that was touching as well. What got me the most, I think, and this isn't the first time I've seen their relationship.

but it's really incredible, despite how you feel about Alexia, the relationship that she has with Frankie, who is the man, by the way, was so touching to me. Like, and we're getting all sappy tonight. We're getting all emotional. Wait, hold on. What do you mean the way that I feel about Alexia? No, no, despite the way that you, the general public, may or may not feel about Alexia.

That was the general you. That was not the broad you. Because there are some people that don't like Alexia, but, like, you can't deny that she is a good mom and that relationship with Frankie's awesome. and that's the stuff like you just said that that's what pulls us back in and makes us like kind of resonate with these women more just because you see the humanity in them you see like their sweet side and their caring side and we saw that with frank and alexia but moving forward we get to have front row seats to a BBL which I never thought we get to see never did I ever

more so with Martina Navratilova's spouse sitting in the room how they're sitting there and we're getting really good moral support from Julia who is actually seemingly in more pain than Adriana yeah I know I first I was like oh maybe she's just like acting like she's afraid of needles and it's like a whole thing no she was absolutely terrified mortified but we did get the little nugget that they're going to adopt another kid and it made her like light up and I was just curious artina wanted to you know move on with their life and like go travel and this and that is it just was sweet that you know a topic that was seemingly off limits where they kind of moved on from it that she was able to do this and now they're having

another kid it's definitely something that julia has been talking about and it's always one of those things like she's an empty nester so she's not dealing with it well martina just wants to go to aspen so she can ski she's like just come with me for like two weeks we'll have fun i just want to be with you and it turns now into them adopting a kid now i don't know i mean this is obviously it's filmed a long time ago so i don't know if they did it looks like they have complications moving forward trying to, I guess, you have to get approved for adoption and then you get to kind of wait in line. From what I know of it, it's an extremely lengthy process. Yeah. So even the six, eight months ago that they were filming this, it's probably nothing.

It's a drop in the bucket of how long they might be waiting. So we'll see how that goes. But it is nice that you can see like how a little bit of just making an effort the way that Julia did because they haven't had dinner with just the two of them since the kids moved out. Now they do. And all of a sudden they're talking about having another. kid like it just shows you do something nice for your spouse and it might go a long way but back to the bbl back to the bbl i had no fucking idea that's how that worked that i don't think that's front row medical it was it's a bbl but it's not a Brazilian buttlift it's a less invasive brazilia it's a something but then she was at and we'll kind of move around a little bit but then she was at the party that alexia was hosting and i think it was marisol went over and started

grabbing her ass like are you not in pain It was probably a day or two before. I mean, again, timelines. But she came over and she's like really firmly grabbing her ass. And she's like, I need one of those too. And Adriana didn't seem like she was in pain. I'm like, holy shit. Well, she probably wants to, you know, show it off a little bit.

She just got a baby L. So maybe she's, you know. No pain, no game. Right. I don't know. I haven't gotten mine in a while. Oh, fair enough. All right.

Next time you get one. You got to let us know how long. You can grab my ass and I'll tell you if it hurts. But, yeah, I mean, one thing that stood out to me. I think it was Adriana's dog. why do they die poodle's fur she has this little poodle and like i understand like i've seen the westminster dog show it's a great time but the poodle was dyed in like blue and had blue on its feet and like its hair just like don't do that that's not like there's a guy who sits

courtside at uh at heat games now with a little chihuahua or something but he died at yellow and he calls it Pikachu and they actually kicked him out and said you can't have this dog in here anymore it's not an emotional support dog is what they found out but I don't understand why people do that. It was just a little throwaway comment that I wanted to talk about there. Let's move on to what looks like it's going to be more of a headline moving forward is Larsa and Nicole. Now, I like Nicole a lot. I don't know how you feel about her.

Love Nicole. I think she keeps it straight. I think as soon as she says to one of the other women, I have a problem with someone or this is being eaten away at me, she immediately addresses it, which I always appreciate. She doesn't let it to do. She doesn't go talk to five or six other people and then let it get back to them. she takes the time to go right at the person. She sits down, she has a conversation with Larsa. Of course, Larsa is just pretty much always gossiping.

Yeah, dude, I noticed that. So Larson's sitting there talking about Lisa. She's talking about whatever Adriana is going through with her butt lift. It's never just like a nice conversation with Larsa. It's always about whatever somebody else is doing. So it's already annoying. And Nicole sits there and goes, you know what? This is the first real conversation that we've had.

I feel like every time that you talk to me, you bring up my ex being a school teacher. And it feels judgmental, which, by the way, it fucking is. It's extremely judgmental. You know, by the way, that this man, even if he doesn't watch the show, that people send him clips of like, hey, they're talking about you again. It's like, oh, you mean the school teacher? Yeah. And like when she brings it up to her in this moment, she's like, well, yeah, you know how I was married to? It's like, yeah, we all know that you're married to Scotty Pippen.

The whole fucking world knows who Larsa Pippen is because of Scotty Pippen. But she's just trying to spin it and say that my divorce was way worse than your divorce because I had a divorce from an NBA player who was a multimillionaire. you had to divorce from a school teacher so it doesn't really matter and that's what she's doing and that's what lars always does lars who started off as yeah she could be fun you know she's kind of like bringing the heat bringing in the drama whatever now i'm just seeing her like she's kind of goofy like i just like don't like the shit that she talks about it's so forced she always just has something to say and she's so judgmental and it's fucking annoying and i'm happy that finally somebody's just like calling her on her shit and right back she goes you know what i heard

I heard that you fucked every doctor in your hospital. One, that would mean that Nicole's probably going to lose her job. If there's any fucking evidence there, she's out. No other hospital in the area will probably hire her. So be careful of what you say before you say it, especially when your job has no ramifications. By the way, you live in the only fans tower. We know what you do.

So don't fucking talk on shit that you don't have skin in the game for. Like, that's just some bullshit. And I just don't, I just like don't fucking deal with her. I think she makes shit up. I think she just runs with it. Whenever she feels like she's cornered, she just makes up a lie and says, I heard it,

I heard it. I don't think you've heard shit because nobody talks to you. I bet somebody made like an off color comment one time because they were pissed at Nicole. And like, oh, she probably banged every doctor in that hospital

or something stupid. Yeah. And she's like, oh, that's true. Laris is like absolutely. Yeah. She logged that in the back of her head. I read that the times.

Yeah. Yeah. Like my biggest issue with her and people are going to say in the comments and stuff, like, oh, like you need those people on the show for the drama. It's like, no, this is what we need less of because we've had it so many times this year.

They keep pushing shit at us that we see right through. I don't want to deal with this shit anymore. There's enough real drama. There is. There will be enough. The force drama weakens everything else. It does. It makes everything else seem less interesting.

It makes it seem less real. And like, look, we understand what we're watching. We know it's reality TV. Things are played up. Duh, no shit. But the moments that are genuine and they seem real, like that's what we're. we want we want to feel and lose that that sense of reality for two seconds so we can like believe all this shit and when you throw stuff at us that we're like well that's clearly not true

then we that you lose that's the what's the term suspension of belief that's what you that's what you have when you're like watching a movie or playing a video game you have suspension of belief which is or suspension of disbelief sorry when i lose that now i'm looking i'm like fuck well yeah this is dumb this is fake i'm not interested anymore like how many minutes are left in this show Like, I want to mean it. Mean, how many mean it's? Well, if, if they're being mean, it's mean. Yeah, these are meanets.

Stop at the meanest. Oh, I just realized something, though, and we're done here. But the end of the show, they do say on the rest of this season. Yeah, they gave a mid-season trailer? I don't think so. I think it's like a wrap-up trailer. Because that would mean, there's still like nine to ten episodes. No, because we had a quote-unquote mid-season trailer from like Salt Lake, I think, and that was like two weeks.

Yeah, that wasn't that far back. So I think it's just like we're close. We're getting there. Yeah, we're almost there. this is what you have to look forward to we're so close yeah just hold on a little bit longer and now we get the pleasure the distinct pleasure because i enjoyed every episode i caught up on all of it i watched five of them in the last two days look at you soho southern hospitality has the chance to be a fantastic television show in my opinion it does and i'm happy it looks like

People are now watching it, which is good because we do see, you know, a lot of our friends, other podcasters, creators. They're tweeting about it. They're talking about it. I did see that the ratings are up. They do have a good poll now. They actually out did one of the Salt Lake episodes. That's not surprising. I think one of our episodes out did the Salt Lake episode.

Here's the thing. and I was actually telling Colleen on the way over today, if any of these shows, like Southern Charm, Summer House, like Vanderpump has the potential to outdo a couple of the Housewife shows, if any of the shows outdo one of the Housewife shows, it should be a big deal. Like Housewife shows are at the top that you're usually untouchable. Now, I'm not expecting, like, Soho or Southern Charm

to come anywhere close to Beverly Hills or Jersey, but it's worth talking about when one of these shows, especially a new show in the new season, is pulling in more people than a real Housewife show. That's pretty big. So we did take a few weeks off. We enjoyed it up until you watched five episodes. I think that I was confused about what we were going to be talking about over the last couple of weeks.

So I just kept watching. I only had three to watch. Oh, okay. So for two, I don't know if I remember. They all kind of blend together because Peacock just runs them. But yeah, it's super enjoyable. It's everything that you and I talked about what we want to see in a show. Younger people having fun.

Probably sound fucking old. We are old, dude. We are old. You know, have a couple adult beverages, but no, I mean, they're having a good time, and I'm having a good time watching it. Now, there obviously are moments where you're like, all right, shut up. But every show has that. So, you know, what are we going to do? Well, we actually had the distinct pleasure.

So, like, two weeks ago, Will reached out to us and was like, we need you dudes to start covering the show or start watching this show. We have. We have touched on it previously. We didn't dive all the way in because we. had a lot of other shows to watch and we base what we talk about off of what you guys watch and if our listeners aren't up on something, we tend to kind of shy away from it and you guys dictate what we watch. So it wasn't getting that much pull. We kind of stepped back from it. God, am I glad we came back. And we need it. It's a good reprieve from the Housewife shows.

It is. But Will reached out. And so today I got done binging all of them and I was like, all right, I'm going to post. I'm going to tag everybody in it just to kind of like put some feelers out there all of the dudes responded from southern hospitality so we might have something in the works this year i'm not going to give too many secrets away i will tell you more as we get closer but yeah we're going to find out when they film and then steal and i'll just pop up at bourbon and bubbles just table for two table for two bottle service please i'll take evion that's gross i don't drink avion um smart water baby jesus but it was just it was nice to hear from all of them they all were really nice mckell has been listening to us

since like july or before yeah that's great that was before seho even came out i know he's been he's been he's been an avid listener for a while so mckell if you're listening or any of you dudes are listening what's up it's up dudes here's the thing we are not going to pull punches that we will tell you exactly how we feel we pride ourselves on unbiased opinions so if you guys are fucking up we are going to call it out yeah but anyway i'm happy that mackel watches and mickle was somebody who watched even before, listened to us even before, because we both really like McKell. Like, we enjoy, you know, the struggle that he had at work and then what he's going through

in his life and just kind of communicate to his family about, like, his sexuality and, like, coming out and going through pride and everything. Like, it's a hell of a journey. And we're root for him the whole way. And he hasn't done really anything. Like, he's gotten into fights. And I find myself just blindly supporting him. I'm pretty much on his team for the most part.

And like, so I rewatched the first. episodes with that because she hadn't seen any of them. So I wanted her to catch up so we could watch them together. So we watched the first four. So I rewatched the first four. And I'm glad I did because I have a very different perspective on this show now. I thoroughly enjoy this show. I think it's got early VPR written all over it. But with the McKell journey, like you go back to the table when he threw the drink at TJ. Like TJ was being an asshole. Like he was poking the bear, poking the bear. And then it went back to when he was at the bar. for Leva's birthday party and T.J. Yanks the drink away from him. What I've learned about

T.J., who I've also grown to like, what I've learned about T.J. is he comes in really, really hot. Like, my man is guns ablazing right out of the gate. He's passionate. Whatever you want to call it. He just, he comes in hot, right? But I think that under that, like, he's a good dude. And we see that I really like watching the relationship between T.J. and Mikkel kind of like blossom into this friendship. They, they complement each other well. Like, they come. come up with the fancy pride party at Urban and Bubbles. They seem to kind of like watching TJ share his experiences with coming out and like learning about himself sexually and like just watching that moment was just,

it was nice to see them kind of connect. And I'm excited to see how they progress moving forward. Like that's the thing I think I like about the show the most is I want to see the next episode. I want to know what's happening with these guys. But, but let's get into like the meat of this episode and we're on the tail end of the peanut butter fiasco and i'm really glad that i watched because i was confused everybody was posting about this like eddie from martini's with eddie kept posting peanut butter stuff and i was like

what the fuck happened with the peanut butter glad we can close the book on that like what was going on the peanut butter we find out that emmy licked the peanut butter off of trevor's penis i do love that people like they got hung up on the peanut butter aspect and that wasn't even the problem they weren't even like talking about how weird it was that emmy and trevor had hooked up or like how it's going to affect the dynamic between everybody they were just fixated on the butter. And they're like, why not whipped cream? Why not chocolate syrup? Why fucking peanut butter? Was it chunky peanut butter? Like, I don't know. That was such a funny, like, detail to just be hung up on. Whereas I'm thinking, like, not talking about how this is this could spiral Will and Emmy's relationship or Trevor and Maddie's relationship. They're so fixated on the peanut butter. I think the reason that they were fixated on the peanut butter is because everybody knew. The only thing they didn't know was the peanut butter part. Literally everyone in the group was like, yeah, no shit, Bradley. Like, we know that they hooked up. Everybody knows they hooked up. And in that. moment like i think bradley just felt like cornered because everyone's everybody's claiming that bradley and regan hooked up yep right like everyone's claiming that something sketchy happened on a trip

and joe heard him poinkin and now that's starting to come out again because regan's back in the fold and i'm not a big regan fan whatsoever she seems just miserable yeah it doesn't seem like a happy person she seems like she thrives on the fact that she can come into republic and shake things up That quickly, she didn't even do anything yet. All she did was, like, whisper something. Yeah, she whispered something to Mia over here. She whispered another thing over there. Everyone's afraid of Reese.

Who the fuck is Reese? I have no idea. How powerful is this man that you can't talk shit about him or, like, you're afraid that if you banged his girlfriend, he's going to, like, ruin your life? And also, Bradley, while we're on the topic, don't shit on personal trainers. He's like, oh, he probably fuels a certain way because, like, I'm a personal trainer. I'm a personal trainer, all right? We are, it's a proud profession.

Yeah, I think that's just a complex of his own that he's pushing off on that. But talking to Kayla, is that her name? I don't fucking know. So he's dating some girl, I guess her name's Kayla. And Maddie's saying that he was getting a blowy out in the alley. Yeah. Which, by the way, you know what? Work comes first.

During work, come on, Radley. Well, hey, it is a blow job. Jesus Christ. All right, this show's fucking spiraling. But, like, he's sitting there and he's like, he's focused on all the wrong things. And Maddie's sitting there like, I've got some real dirt. You were clearly just cheating on this girl. And I don't really condone what Maddie did where she's like, just protect your heart.

She was trying to pull punches. Everybody knows what that means. Everybody knows. You even said that. You're like, I didn't want to come out fully and just say, hey, by the way, I saw I'm getting a blowjob in the alley. I just told her to protect her heart. We know what that means. She knows what that means.

You know what you were doing. I have taken a weird turn on Maddie. all right i was a fan of hers like first of all everybody on the show from like episode one and two did them dirty all right and i think that production had a lot to do with that like the guys are like i'm the hottest in the group he's like oh he thinks he's the hottest in the group like blah blah blah like all that stuff like kind i was like all right that's annoying that was the type of shit that like pushed me away from the show to begin yes it was and then once we get past the intros and we get to see who these people are like who they really are i started to really gravitate towards

i was like no you know what like joe seems like a hardworking ambitious dude he's just trying to work his way up he's got like puppy love for this girl that like yeah and this is where i took the turn bro this is where i took the turn on her i'm sitting here watching all this stuff play out right and it's a love triangle disaster between Trevor mattie and joe and poor joe has front row seats to these two at all times yeah right and i can't imagine what that's like but as i watched this all unfold mattie just wants her cake and to eat it too she wants both of them and we see that when he's painting her room, first and foremost, my guy's trying so hard. And I appreciate that.

But at the same time, like, dude, like take a hint. Like, this ship has sailed until this dumbass from Philly, unfortunately, is out of the picture. And it seems to me that Trevor will play himself out of this equation at some point. But he's going to do something stupid. He's going to. I'm banking on it. It would look better for you, and Joe, if you're listening, it would look so much better for you if you just cut ties with Maddie. you just keep it out of work relationship

like you do with the other girls because you're a manager now can't be dating inside the company as Leva said it'll look so much better because you know that Trevor's going to fuck up at some point and probably cheat on her or do something dumb

that's going to result in them breaking up you don't want to be the rebound guy because the rebound guy hardly ever actually gets the girl go find somebody else go have some fun and then don't be there when Maddie and Trevor break up

because it's going to drive her crazy and it drove you crazy for what six months eight months however fucking long she said nine months I think think just don't be there and it's going to drive her crazy tit for tat baby tit for tat and that's where also we can talk about Mia like Mia even says it in a confessional she's looking at herself in her own pocket mirror and she's like oh like he needs somebody beautiful and outgoing and

independent like where could you find that and for all intents and purposes I have to like enunciate when I say that now so people don't think I say it intensive purposes for all intense and purposes Mia seems great she seems real like Like, she's, I thought she did Owen a little bit dirty because, you know, she said, like, I'm a hopeless romantic too. I love grand gestures. I love this. And then she later complains, like, he was way too much.

He came on way too thick, way too strong. And, like, I mean, you got that vibe from night one, but she leaned into it. But anyway, and this is when they're painting the room. And Mia comes up in topic of conversation from Maddie. What I thought was going to happen, what I wanted to happen, because I was already getting a, like, a bad. feeling where I'm like, she's leading this poor guy on because she wants him around. She wants him close. But I was hoping that this would kind of change that opinion.

It did not. It furthered my take because she's like talking to him. She brings up Mia. You would think she'd be like, that's awesome. You should go for it. Like you guys make total sense. Like that would be the nice thing to do. That would be the friendly thing to do.

Let's not forget, Joe has sat on his hands and said nothing about Trevor. Yeah. He's talked a lot of shit about him behind his back. Oh, yeah. Rightfully so, probably. But nothing to Maddie. really. Nothing to matter.

Aside from, are you sure you want to date this guy after what he did, which is fucking fine if you're friends. That's being a good friend. And they are best friends, apparently. So in that moment, he hasn't shit on Trevor. You should not sit there and be like, oh, Mia's just not the right guy for him. She goes to a confession and says, like, that doesn't make any sense to me and blah, blah, blah. Like, dude, leave this guy alone.

Let him go. Let him move on. He's tiptoeing around the idea of actually taking a chance at doing something else with somebody else. Like, leave this guy alone because it's dragging him back. He's pulling him back. Well, she's saving him. From what?

No, she's not saving him from anything. She's saving him for herself. Oh, saving him for later. Yeah, she's literally saving him for later. Like she is, she knows in the back of her mind that Trevor is not going to work out because he's a fucking idiot. And he's from Philly because he's a scumbag. But she's saving Joe because he's the nice guy and they're good friends. And she knows that he would never do anything to hurt her.

But she's just not ready for Joe right now. She wants to go have fun with Trevor. But that's bullshit. She knows that Joe will sit and wait for her. That's bullshit. Joe, get the fuck out, bud. Go find another girl. Maybe not Mia because Leva's going to have your neck.

But here's my issue with that. Here's my issue with that. If we're going to, we hear, there's a blueprint here, okay? There's a blueprint of how this show can be great. And it is called Vanderpump Rules. Okay. Vanderpump Rules is crazy because they all bang each other. They all hooked up.

The show is good, but like we're going to see it next year. Like it looks like Tom and Tom are having a hard time getting the bar going. They got it going. Maybe they aren't great business people. Look, if Levin wants to cultivate a good business, you can't have intermingling. But look, all of Lisa Vanderpump's restaurants have done well. I'm sure there's a couple of hiccups along the way, but the ones that are mainstays in L.A. still are still there. She's doing fine.

Tom Tom did, or I guess it's Schwartz and Sandy's, sorry. Schwartz and Sandys did open up. They are open right now. You could literally go there right now if you live in the area. So for you to claim they're not successful is ridiculous. to claim also that that doesn't make great television when they're all dating each other. And just because he's a manager, Peter from Vanderpump is a manager, and he dated multiple. Arguably too many.

Look, you know what? If Levin wants to run her business this way, then let her run it. She's a good business woman. I think she's asking too much because I feel like people in Food and Bev, you can talk to Craig, will probably intermingle no matter what you do. You can put in any laws you want. It's going to happen. We got a Food and Bev.

Reagan. Reagan said, I miss my Food and Bev friends. So it's a real thing. It is a real thing. Well, it's another Charleston thing. Oh, is that a Charleston food and dev thing? I think it's just food and Bev. You can't claim that.

Two for two have been from Charleston. It's a coincidence now. There's a third one. It's not a coincidence anymore. Oh, we need one more. One more. Okay. One more.

Unironic food and Beth. I'll keep my ears open. But back to Leva real quick and back to like the twerking and shit on the boat when they're out of like Norman. I have so many issues with the handling of that situation. Like, for them to be at pride, and grace lily walks out with tape over her nipples yeah that's not an issue but them on a boat on an off day twerking and just because yeah Trevor should not be posting them that did piss me off like dude stay out of it yeah stay out of you're barely even on the show yeah you don't need to be that guy somebody needs a taxi somewhere correct but for love of to claim like this is bad for business I don't want this like whatever like what do you talk you really think that your clientele, kids

that go to college of Charleston, are going to see girls pouring drinks on each other on a boat twerking, and they're not going to be like, oh, we're going to that bar. Yeah, absolutely. It makes no sense. And they all are so terrified of her and like the brand. I get they're all working their way up. You don't want to piss off your boss. Sure,

but her handling of them as employees, it's like they need to be at her beck and call and it's like this is a place of work. This is not the end all be all. I think she's just struggling. So if they didn't have a show, right, and let me walk you through this if they didn't have a show they wouldn't be quote unquote public figures so a lot of people that go to these restaurants wouldn't follow unless it's grace lily but you kind of expect that

behavior from her so who gives a shit but the other ones i don't really think that you'd have like thousands of people following tj or joe or will or whoever if they weren't on a show if they were just bartenders and vip club guys whatever at the club in charleston i don't think level would really care because not many people, not many customers are following. But to your point, yeah, it makes sense. If you see people doing that and they're attracted people, yeah, a group of guys is going to be like, hell yeah, let's go to bourbon and bubbles tonight. Or let's go to Republic tonight. Like, yeah, that's going to happen. I think that she's just afraid that there's going to be like more backlash on them and then her restaurant because there's 8,000, 10,000 people that are following this

and everybody's going to see it. And they'd be like, oh, that's kind of a joke. Why is Leva letting her employees just run a muck out there okay so i think it's just early stages maybe in like two years three years when they're established she'll live them to do whatever the fuck they want because she realizes it brings in business but for now i don't you know i don't really blame her no i totally see what you're saying except for the fact this is airing on national television right now so it makes no sense they're going to see it anyway it's good point they're going to see it anyway and maybe they've changed over the last 10 months who knows changed what it's still out there yeah it's on TV. Go on Peacock. You can

plug for Peacock. But overall, I'm a huge fan. I like pretty much everybody. Grace Lilly is annoying, but she is great for TV. I think she's so funny now. She's great for, she's still like not my cup of tea. In the middle of the peanut butter thing when everybody's screaming about peanut butter, she's sitting there taking us out of her. She's oblivious, like, so, or she just doesn't give

a shit. Or like, after, I think it was, Mia gets followed by the NASCAR driver, and Grace Lily's like, well, did you follow him? She's like, yeah, of course I followed him. She's like, oh, I didn't follow him. I don't follow guys. Like, that's probably why he followed you. Yeah. And then immediately was like, look at this picture that we took together.

Isn't it so cute? I could definitely see myself dating him. It's like, all right. Yeah, she literally take a fucking chill pill. But like aside from that, her other moments are funny because she's not front and center the whole time, which is good because she really doesn't have, she has her personality. But to carry a show, you need a lot more than that. She doesn't really have that, but she is funny background noise.

I'll give her that. I think that, and this is what's crazy, and I hate, hate that I'm saying this and giving credit here, but credit where credits do, I always speak up, okay, even if I don't like it. The more I saw her, the more I watched, and like, yeah, there's a lot of annoying moments, and yeah, she puts her foot in her mouth, and, like, the way that she handles arguments, I think is terrible. I think that she just, like, that argument was squashed. You had no reason to bring it back up later that night, and she brings it back up and, like,

starts shit again with me. It made no sense to me. But everything else she does, like, she really is Grace Lilly all the time. Like, that is who she genuinely is. And the more that she said, I don't know why people care so much. I'm just being me. It made me check myself. I was like, I don't know why I care so much.

She is just being herself. This is who she is, who she wants to be. Why the fuck should I comment or care? I should just shut the fuck up and let her be herself. And I was like, God damn it. I just had a moment of clarity because she wants to twerk. at a go-kart rink, and I'm an asshole somehow in this scenario. So, yeah, gee, Lily, she put me in my place, and I, look, I'll admit it to the public.

Good for you. I know. I'm a strong man. I feel so strong right now. And last but not least, we are back in Potomac, and we are winding down. We have the reunion filming tomorrow, actually. So we are just about finished with Potomac, which overall, I thought it was a good season. So for that dude that claims that we love shows and then hate him, no, this was a good season overall.

It had its ups and downs. Was it like a grand slam? No, but it was entertaining. Yeah, and it's still entertaining. Even now in Mexico, we're only on day two in Mexico. It's still entertaining. It is still entertaining. I enjoyed this episode a lot, actually, and we get to kind of see the back end of the Cherise and Karen fight.

And a lot of people were saying that this was staged. that they fake this. And I don't think so. I didn't think so either. I thought it was so genuine. Like they both seemed really pissed. Yeah. Like you can tell Charisse was pissed.

And I think that she realizes that everybody else realizes that Karen is hiding something or is freaking out for some reason. And she knows that people will start to back her. And you see more and more that Charisse will just start saying stuff and then stop and let everybody else do the talking for or just let Karen just kind of like run herself empty, just screaming about nothing. and it is kind of strange and it looks like next week we get a little bit more we don't want to have to jump there yet but there is clearly something here there's definitely something more with karen and she starts off with this argument to start off the episode making absolutely no sense like coming after chris for just going to her mom's funeral and everybody's sitting there like she's not chasing clout by driving four hours to the middle of nowhere to go to your mom's funeral just to say hey like i hope you're okay where there's no fucking cameras. There's nothing going on. Like, how twisted do you think Sherease is? Like, she's not. She's actually just genuinely cared. And there's something that you think that there's something else there? I think you're a fucking Karen Stan. I think you're, I think your Karen Stanhood is going to come into question here. Look, but I'm going to be honest, okay? Are you

going to be honest or are you going to stand by your girl? I'm going to be honest. I'm standing by your girl. No, no. All right. Let's hear it. I guess I am going to stand by my girl here, but kind of. All right. I don't think that either of them are blameless here. I think that they're both kind of being immature about the whole thing. But there is a clip from years ago, and Cherise was at a party at Karen's house. And she weirdly does bring up, like, oh, I was at your mom's funeral. She brought it up out of context seemingly that she didn't, in fact, go to her mom's funeral. But why would that come up at all?

They could have been talking to a family member that she saw at the funeral. I don't know, dude. Dude, you know Bravo's editors are going to make it look like she brought it up in no. I don't stand by either of them. I don't claim to have a person to stand by, all right? I'm just analyzing the facts here. And what we know is that Bravo does edit things to make it look one way when it's not exactly that way. Okay.

And also, we know that Karen is acting erratically. Here's what I'm going to say. Let me just take it home, okay? I don't think it's fair to say that Cherise went to your mom's funeral out of selfish reasons so that she could then again use it like, as ammo against you. I don't think that's a fair thing to do, especially considering you didn't go to her mom's funeral. However,

she did actually send her a lengthy text offering her condolences, which Cherise glossed over. She said she sent like, oh, like you're in my prayers or something, like a one sentence thing. She said, sorry for your loss.

Sorry for your loss. Yeah. No, it was a well thought out long text. Have we seen that text? Yeah, they showed pictures of it on the episode. Oh, did that?

It's all over Instagram. Yeah, yeah. I think I didn't see that. No, that actually happened. So here we have. I'm going to call it like I see it Neither of them are right

They're both trying to be right And it is clear to me why They both want to be the Queen of Potomac It made Karen so fucking mad When Robin said that Oh and Giselle said it One of the green odd bandits said it And it made her livid

That made Karen physically get up from the table She was squirming in a seat She hated that And even when you went to her confessional She's like just shut the hell up with your dumb shit Like no actually And then she took a step back and, like, no, that was still organic.

Yeah. And this, your confessionals also months later. Right. So she's still pissed about even hearing that. And Cherise kind of sits back and, like, smirks as Jazele and Robin do her dirty work. And it's like, well, hold on. Like, who fucking cares who the Queen of Potomac is? Is it that important of a title?

Yeah, but why? Like, I just, I don't understand why you would drag this shit out as long as they have as tumultuous as it is for a title. Like, Sheree did get the. girls together she was the star for a long time like that is fact go back and watch the early seasons karen came into the fold karen has since kind of taken on that role as being like the grand dom and that's the presence that she brings to the show it's just fact that is what she is now one can be the other as well you don't have to like butt heads over who's got the bigger dick here because like just settled down like this is this is why i like the show a lot and this is why this show is unlike the

other shows we talked about it for weeks in different instances depending on the situation how it seems like no matter what happens like karen will somebody will get say something weird to karen and she'll get mad about it but she'll be okay by like the next day or the day after whatever and they'll come groveling to her karen does something and she doesn't really expect anything in return people will just kind of like turn a blind eye to it we were getting to a point and i wasn't even tired of it at that point like i was just like oh i guess this is just how it is i could have seen myself if it continued by the end of the season questioning why it happens and being like why has nobody ever just confront Karen before I even got to that point we have people confronting Karen

true I love that yeah because I and like this is the way I watch movies is way I watch TV I'm always trying to figure out like when something's going to happen like all right this I know why they're leading this way because this is what's going to happen I didn't even get a chance to do that in this show before it happens and I think it was genuine too I think robin's fed up with Karen talking about her fucking wedding. Robin is, how old is Robin? 40 years old?

I don't know. Who gives a shit if she doesn't want to have a big wedding? Her and Juan have been dancing around and dancing around and dancing around. Let them go do whatever the fuck they want. It's their wedding. Nobody needs, I think Karen just wants a reason to get all dressed up and go somewhere and have pictures taken and have this whole big thing and she's pissed about it.

Or she's just old school and being like, you need to have a big wedding. Either way, it's none of your business. Just shut the fuck up. Then don't have a public. engagement. What do you mean? They had a public engagement years ago, though. I know, but if Juan gets down on one knee, I'm not saying that they need to have a

wedding. They can do their own thing with their family. I don't think that one means the other. Why do you have to have the, why can't you tell them what day your wedding is? It's because you don't have a day yet. Yeah, they don't have a day. Well, then say that. I think that she's tired of them commenting on it so much.

Then give them answers. Stop skating around it. This is what you signed up for. But I feel like, if she gives them answers, they're going to be like, oh, well, you got to set a date. You got to do this. She's probably just tired of fucking a hearing it. Which is irrelevant to me.

I don't think so. Why? It's irrelevant. Because if you're in this show, you have to answer the questions, period. That's par for the course. That's what you do when you are on a Bravo contract. So I want, just say when it is, or say September. We're going in September or October.

Whatever the fucking month is. At least they're going to Jamaica now and not the Chesapeake Bay. Oh, God. That would have been so funny. But the thing is, like, no one else is really giving Robin shit for it. Like, maybe they're all tired of talking about it. Probably. Whatever.

Don't get married. get married, who the fuck cares? Karen is still so adamant about the whole thing. It's like, all right, like get over it. It's not your wedding. You're not in the wedding. You're not a family member. You have nothing to gain here.

Just let her go do whatever the hell she wants to do and she'll do it. You want to send her a gift, send her a fucking gift enough. Robbins at her wits end with her and finally comes after her and calls her a bullshitter, which I've now, I still like Karen a lot, but I've come to realize that Karen is a bullshitter. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I think that she does it really well. Well, she bullshits better than the other ones because she's able to kind of keep it calm and then save it for later. That might be in question now.

It might be. If people are aware of it now. Well, they've been aware of it. I mean, it's just not like it's like a secret. I just think she has a target on her back now. Somebody uncovered a little piece of armor on Karen. And now I feel like people are going to come after. And we can see it in like the scenes for next week.

They start talking about the blue eyed man. Charisse has pictures. I'm fucking pumped. I'm excited to get a face to who the blue eyed man is. I don't think we're going to get a face. You think they're going to get a face? I don't think we're going to get a shit. Oh, no, I didn't think about that.

I thought they blurt it after they're sitting for next week. So he was wearing Washington Redskins gear. Yeah, he's already a loser. In Vegas. He's a loser. Yeah, what a doink. Unless he's like, you know, upper management for the Redskins. Robert Griffin, the third.

But there's one thing I need to comment on because it really pissed me off. Like, genuinely made me mad. When they're all going back and forth, and I'm taking it to a serious note right now, but whatever, they're all going back and forth and she's like yeah well I heard that you went to rehab and everybody gasps I'm like oh my I'm like

god damn it like I hate getting on this soapbox period because I don't want to seem preachy and I don't like to like get aggravated about it but this is part of the problem with people trying to get help and go to rehab but you see how it's used as ammo against Karen and Karen vehemently

is that the right word vehemently vehemently vehemently I say vehemently now I say vehemently Now, I say vehemently. Viamently. Viamently. I'm going with Viamer with the bros. Grammar with the bros.

I know. I can already see a lot of people talking shit on that one. Yeah. Vemently. It's vehemently. It's definitely vehemently. But Karen vehemently denies going to rehab. And it's like, how the fuck is this being used as a negative?

Like the negative part is that her friends flew down there and pulled her out of rehab. Yeah. That's the problem. The problem is not her going to rehab. And now because you did this, because you used this as ammo. if she does need rehab in the future, she's not going to fucking go. So nice job.

I mean, when I tell you sat up in my seat and I wrote it down, I was like, fuck this. Like, that's so annoying to me. It happens all the time. And it's,

you know, just anybody out there listening to this, this is a PSA. Like, just don't fucking do that. It's not cool. It's not comfortable. It pisses people like me off.

Like, I worked my ass off to get where I am from rehab. So rehab is a great place that saves lives. Don't fucking talk about it like that. Anyway, moving on to the fun stuff. Well, do we and I'm going to ask you a question and it's okay if you say yes or no do we have to get into the me and Jacqueline thing um because I don't get the shit I don't really care either I feel bad for Jacqueline in some regards I think that she makes her own bed but I also just think that I was going to say that really I was literally about to say but she made her own bed she's going to lie in it yeah I just you know I just fucking hate me so I really don't care no I think that where my biggest issue with the whole thing is and we can just gloss it over but my biggest issue with the whole thing is Jacqueline

does go to her to try to discuss it yeah it just grinds my gear gear um when we're gonna get you another gear yeah i don't want my one i got a good gear but um it just it grinds my gear when somebody does approach a situation maturely to squash something yeah and you're too immature to sit there and give them the time of day she wouldn't even look at her no she and it's not contact and she kept doing that fucking hand thing like the i just i fucking hate her yeah she's she's brutal but um we get down to the beach and the ladies are doing, which has to be a fucking made-up name. Like some shaman that created this exercise routine was like, this would be a funny name.

Kundalini. Yeah. Like there's no way that something is really named Kundalini. He's definitely just like some purve that wanted to see some girls, like fake an orgasm like on the beach. Like let's see you gyrate those hips girls faster. That's really good. All right. I'm going to think about that one later.

Great. Me and all the shaman are getting together. We're going to talk about this. Yeah. Like Kundalini is a terrible name for anything. but they are doing kundalini and you see a pretty clear divide in the group like the karen is having nothing to do with the rest of it for the time being kandis has also checked out she's chilling with karen and they're just avoiding going to do kundalini jaclain is kind of on her own like

she doesn't really have anybody she's trying to make friends honestly wendy is like kind of extending an olive branch to her which is nice of her to just kind of be like hey and we also see let me get some dirt on mea oh you didn't realize that wow Yeah, absolutely. Because you get it at the end where I didn't really like how Candace was like, I'm just like a little triggered right now because we're talking about drinks being thrown and you're not apologizing. It's like, all right, triggered, not the right word.

You weren't really involved in that. You're just, you know, triggered for Wendy, whatever. No, no, she was triggered because she had, you didn't see that season. That's when Monique threw and hit her with a glass. No, she said, I'm triggered right now because you're not apologizing to the person who was. Oh, see, yeah. That is an incorrect use of the word. And that fucked me up.

See? I was like, no, that makes sense. You were there, but like, whatever. That makes sense to me. That makes sense for Wendy to get close to Jacqueline because let's get a little dirt on Mia. I don't like Mia right now. We've got a little beef going on. It would be nice if I had something in the back pocket.

So when Mia starts doing her fucking hand things and talking about me, I can throw something right out and see what happens. Interesting take. I like that. I didn't even think of that. Smart move. But we do see like at the end of the episode, and Wendy was kind of the middleman here. Ashley and Candace were, you know, obviously they're at odds pretty much the whole season. We started out the season and they seemed to be cool finally.

And then things start to snowball. Ashley throws out some accusations and things obviously took a bad turn. Wendy just wants to squash the beef. And I do appreciate that like we're at a point now in the season and things have been so just kind of chaotic that we're kind of trying to wrap it up for the end of the year. Like that's good. That's good TV. That's good production. Good job Wendy as well.

but we do get to kind of dive into why they felt so slighted right and Candace goes first and she's like you know you threw out all these accusations to me it feels like you're unhappy in your relationship you felt certain things you went through certain things with Michael and you're projecting that on to me because of your own insecurities and that's not fair I know my man I don't need to you know check in and figure out where he is 24-7 I don't need all of these different things that you needed from Michael because you couldn't trust Michael. I trust my man. That's enough for me.

Let's leave it alone. Stop talking about him. Ashley goes on to say, well, I felt slighted because you made fun of me and my struggle to get pregnant. So that was why she was harboring these feelings, I guess, for Candice. Now, how those correlate to one another, why she chose that moment when they seem to be getting better to then use that against her? I'm not entirely sure.

Do I see that she could still have some feelings there and feel upset about it? sure, like I guess, but all in all, they both agree to kind of just squash it. Ashley apologizes the Candace for her role in the Deborah thing. She's like, I just figured that you would want to talk to her. If Michael was doing something, I had the chance of it, it's like, no, dude, different apples to oranges. I say, I'm sorry and move on, but we do get to see them kind of have this, like, we'll call it a treaty for now.

It's not a friendship, but they have a treaty to kind of see where things go. And I do appreciate as we come to a close, like we have a couple episodes left, just kind of like, I had a bow. on it. Let's not end the season with just, okay, they fucking hate each other. Like, there's no hope there, who cares? Although it does make for good TV if it ends the season where two people just fucking hate each other, because then

you want to look forward to next season and say, all right, are they going to be able to patch it up, or are we going to get more of the same? But that takes us to the question portion up first. We've got Gons underscore NAND. I'm just going to read them very straightforward from now on. Is Cherise

the true queen of Potomac. I didn't really ask you. Do you think, who gets the title? I think Sherees gets it because she brought all the girls together. It would be no show if it wasn't for Sherees. Well, there might be a show, but it wouldn't be what we see today. There you go, Gons, Nan. Well, what do you think?

You're just electing not to answer? I think that if you're going to argue, she did start it. Like, she is one of the OGs of Potomac. Sure. But if a queen gets replaced and the old queen is still alive, The other queen's still a queen. You still call her queen for the rest of her life, right?

It's like first lady. If the first lady is no longer in the White House, she is still the first lady. So I think that they are both queens. I think Cherise will forever be the queen of Potomac. And I think that Karen is the current queen of Potomac. I'm trying to think of what, yeah, I guess you just still call them. There is other, like, queen regent and queen mother.

Okay. And then, you know. I can't, no, I don't. I know queen, old queen. You got to watch the crown. What up, queen? from Philly Diva, do you think Mia will come back next season or will she get a pass because she's pretty and messy?

You know, yeah, she doesn't get a pass, but she's probably still going to be on the show because, like it or not, she does things that people talk about. She does. Me specifically. Yeah, I mean, you could argue that a lot of our conversations have been either because of or about Mia. So I think that she's going to fight her ass off

to keep her spot on the show because she needs to buy a house. Or rent a house and then renovate a house and renovate it and just burn money. Just light money on fire. How'd you go bankrupt? Well, what do I have a story for you? Well, if you call this person, they live at this address, I renovated their home for them. Let me know what you think.

I'll go back to the Motel 6. Ah, we have a returning person and I get to re-pronounce her name because she sent us what the actual... No, I got it this time. If I fuck it up now, now it's my fault. Okay? From, no, it's not my fault when I fuck it up the first time. If I fuck it up after they tell me how to say it, that's when I have a problem. From Zeray Allen, I nailed it.

Thoughts on Mia and Wendy's argument. It felt condescending on Mia's part. It's always condescending on Mia's fucker. 100%. It's what she does. Yeah. She's always condescending, even when she talks to her fucking husband. The problem is when the argument's over is when Wendy shoots herself in the foot.

Wendy needs to just stop. talking when it's over but she keeps going and keeps like she has to get the last word in she's like genuinely pissed she is genuinely pissed and I get that but it makes you look worse if you can't just like zip it like the conversation's over she's walking away like let her go away don't just keep throwing out one-liners because they don't land good point and then the last question I have it's a repeat but it ends with something great so I'm just going to read it we're not going to answer it I already know what it ends with yes you do I'm going to let you you're not reading it I'm to let you finish this one.

Okay, ready? Who do you believe is the true Queen of Potomac, South Philly girl here? Go birds. Fucking right, go birds. Big game this weekend. Everybody that listens to us, watch the birds, kick the shit out of the giants. It's going to be glorious. Jalen Hertz at his finest.

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