Bros & Shows - Wow, That's Cool.....Can I Uhhh Get a Kiss? (Love Island US Full Recap Eps. 8-11)

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Well, the villa is heating up. We have lost one of our islanders first or second islander to go. This show gets better and better. I love this cast. I think that we got a nice product here. And I'm excited to see where this season goes.

But we got a lot of drama to sift through from these last three episodes. Yeah. There's a couple of things that give me a pause for concern with the already established rubric of, yeah, we're not closed off. we're exploring, but like, you better not go fucking explore. I'm going to be pissed on. I was like, all right, relax.

Hopefully that doesn't hold anybody back. I don't really think it will. There's a couple of very funny moments to discuss throughout all of this while people were quote unquote trying to explore. But as usual, America got involved, made it a little messy. Didn't end up as messy as I thought it would, though.

As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. Oh, man, it's 8 o'clock. And so that'll make it a, I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brab Bros.

Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brav Bros. Your favorite podcast for the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host. Steel Russell joined as always. Welcome back. Someone reminded me in the comments, Villa Goots. Ah, Villa Goose.

Yeah, Bill of Goots. Feels good to be back. Not only that, it feels good to be back. And then also welcome back, Sierra Miller, who made her debut not only on the show itself, but also on AfterSun, which that has always been like a rest day for us. That has always been a, yeah, it's AfterSun, whatever. Mara can go handle her thing. Now that Sierra's on it, I'm watching. That is MustCTV.

I'm not watching live, though, because as I mentioned in our Rhode Island episode, There's a lot of World Cup action on and the NBA Finals was on Saturday night. So I was not watching that live, but I did watch it. And I was very impressed by her and Taffy. I was too. I think Sierra did a great job on screen as well during the actual show itself. I wasn't sure. You never know how it's going to translate.

She did great. She looked great. She was awesome. I hope this is the start of her come up. And I hope that we see her. She needs to host a show. Obviously, Ariana's got Love Island. But we got to find a good show for her.

to host. Not Bachelor, not Bachelorette, nothing, none of that. That show is going down the tubes, especially after Taylor, Frankie Paul, at her nonsense. But we got to find a good show for Sierra to host. I don't know what the answer is there. Hopefully not a transition over to Hulu because those shows, they just don't do that well. I'm sorry. Because they drop them at once. They don't spread them out. Yeah, you got to spread those bad boys out. But yeah, stay in the NBC Universal universe, if you will. we'll find something for her at some point. Yeah, she deserves it.

But a lot of shit's going on. A lot of stuff. And we're going to go through kind of episode to episode, but we like to jump around in these when we get started on a topic. I want to lead things off because obviously we're going to see some stuff happen with Bay of this episode. Gabriel, and we had our moment. By we and I had my moment last week. We talked about this guys. Don't hold it against me.

like I said, I saw the light. I don't think he's, you know, moving the right way. And he kind of gets exposed this episode in episode eight because if you really want to talk about the quote unquote communication, right? That's what everybody's claiming Bea and Gabriel had. Great communication. One, they don't talk about anything of substance ever. Two, their communication is not good because Gabriel's telling her, like, oh, I love this connection. oh yeah, it's you and me, blah, blah, blah.

He's telling the dudes, you got to take the risk, get a risket for the biscuit. And he's going around trying to smooch everybody. This guy's just a cereal smoocher. And I don't like that. Gabe is what Corbyn wishes he was. Like Corbyn continuously. You like Corbyn? After this last episode, I do.

Oh, that's fun. That's a fun dynamic. So Corbyn is online known as AI. Yeah, he's just, he's an AI bot. he doesn't actually talk about any personal stories. He just, even in this, uh,

the latest episode, he talks about like having drive and using it. And it's like, oh, is that what you do? Because all you said was your career motivated. You're a videographer. Like that's,

that could be kind of cool. Maybe if you ever talk about it. But that doesn't make sense because he says to, to Melanie, he's like, oh, I know, videoographers.

I know, maybe he just made it up. I think he just made it up. Yeah. Oh, God. It's just so funny. Like, Melanie,

his voice just sounds like, like inauthentically deep. I just can't get a read on this guy. I think he's incredibly funny because of the way that he ends every conversation. He's like, oh, wow, that was a 20 minute conversation. Could I get a kiss?

Like, no, you can't get a kiss. No, actually not. Seeing him get turned down is very funny. But going back to game, I,

in a way, I understand, like he's just not talking very much about what he's doing and what his intentions are. But he is, at least at this juncture, playing it the right way. He's like,

yeah, I'm just trying to figure it out. But my big issue with game, when you have somebody like Casey who's like, all right, like, yeah, I'm kind of just with Anaya, but I want to go find a connection. I want to go figure out what I want to do.

It's like, okay, that makes sense. But he's not allowed to, which we'll get into a little bit later. He has the right idea. Like, I need to figure out because I've been

with Anaya since day one if there's another connection here. The way Gabe's going is just like, you know what, Bay is pretty simple. Let me just pull soul for a chat. Like nobody really knows what's going on. I'll get a kiss from her. I'll pull Jen for a chat. I'll talk to her for a little bit.

We'll end up kissing. It's like, all right. You're not, you're just here to try to smooch as many people as you want. That's all you're doing. You're just, you're not really trying to find a connection. You're just trying to find a hot girl who thinks you're hot so that you can just just probably coast by for the rest of the season. That's really all he wants. And he's going to continue to kiss every bombshell that walks through the door. So that's my big problem with him is that he's not really trying to find a connection. He's just living. He's just trying to smooch. trying to smooch whoever walks at the door.

He almost smooched, uh, who's, what's his name? Caleb at the, uh, the bed challenge thing. I thought it was going to get kisses left and right.

And yeah, you're not really communicating. You know, they're claiming to be communicative. It's like, but you guys don't really talk about anything. You just kind of say the same shit over and over and over again. The funny thing that's happening

is on one hand with the dudes. You do have some more exploring going on. than their lady counterparts. They're not really doing a lot of exploring, although every conversation we see amongst couples is, it's so early, you got to go out there and explore. But like you said,

if they do explore, and granted, there's levels to this. You know, there's some fuckery going on with the dudes and how they're exploring, namely sincere is very insincere. That guy,

what a 180. What a 180 he did in my book, because I thought it was sincere. I was like, you say the right things. My fuck boy radar was up early because of how he talks. I was like, maybe you're just trying to pour it on thick. His situation is annoying because I don't think Melanie's crazy. I think he's driving Melanie crazy.

And I think that if you do lay out like a side by side of infractions, right? I do think Melanie, you know, fucked up a few times. Yeah. But not to the degree in which Sincer is using it to fuel this like get back. But the craziest thing is like you are enamored with soul. Every scene that we see you two with, you are all over each other. There does seem to be an emotional connection. There's obviously a physical attraction.

You guys are smooching any chance you get. You're telling her all these things, you know, all these super nice things. Then you go to Melanie, you're like, I don't want anything to do with her. I don't even kind of want to do anything with her. I want to be with you. You're crazy. Why are you getting so worked up? He gaslights the shit out of her, goes and does what he wants with Soul.

And unfortunately, every single time he comes crawling back to Melanie, she takes him back. Yeah. And I think he's just driven her insane. Yeah, I think he is definitely driven her insane. And again, we talked about this last week. We laid it out even before episode eight aired. All he had to do was just say, yeah, you know what you fucked up a little too much. It's a little early.

I have a somewhat of a connection with Soul. I'm going to go explore that more. And I think they get caught up and we talk a lot about it over these three episodes with prioritization. Like, all right, number one girl, number two girl. Now, you're my top connection. You're my bottom connection. Like, it's just, it goes too far with all that way. We get into the semantics too much.

You can just say, yeah, you know, I feel like there's a bit of a spark there. So I'm going to explore it. If he was just straightforward, he'd probably be fine. And I think even Melanie would be like, like, Melanie got to a point in episode eight where she's like, look, I mean, I fucked up. I did a lot. And then maybe I pushed you away. All you have to say is, you kind of did. and you push me into the arms as somebody else,

and now I'm exploring that connection. I still would like to explore you, but if there's a problem here, I'd rather not deal with that problem, and I'd rather just go explore the connection that I'm currently seeing, which is actually going really well. And I think it would be fine, and that's the best way to go about it.

Because then if Melanie crashes out, it's like, all right, like, I was straightforward to you. I'm just moving on. He's not doing any of that. He's actually making things so much worse for himself, and it's even funnier going into episode nine when they're talking about, like America voted for who the bombshells are going to be with.

You have it made. All you have to do is just kind of say the right things here and there. He just fucking like over this two episode stretch was just pouring it on with both of them. I mean, it was embarrassing to watch. You can't do that. Again, like we said, all you have to do is just tell Mel like, hey, I'm going to cool a little bit on you because of how you've been acting. But if you're still down to like explore the connection and see because we're still in a couple, we can always do that. I just feel like I've got a connection over here that I'm going to put a little bit more eggs in that basket.

That's all you really have to do. and then America's going to vote with you and Seoul together anyway. So then you just move on. And then you're like, well, I don't want to be disrespectful to my couple. I'm giving her a fair shot. But obviously there's still something here. So you can still live in the world where you have your cake and eat it too. It just seems like every time he's presented with a very easy opportunity,

he's like, how can I make this worse? Let me really pour it on with Mel and tell her there is no connection with me and Seoul. It was just somebody who grabbed my eyes as soon as she walked in, but I can tell that my connections with you. It's like, why would you say that? Why are you, you're making it so much worse for yourself. You're making it so much harder for you to do what you want to do. And the funniest part is what he's sitting with soul, all of his like conversations are kind of

surface level and then they make out. And he's like, oh, I really enjoy this. And then he ends up running back to Mel and having real conversations, but then they're not kissing. So it's very bizarre. It is. But I will say like, no, I don't think you and Melanie are the ones. Like I don't think you need to be.

You guys are toxic as shit back and forth. Like there's a lot of back and forth. And yes, I do think that Sincere is driving a lot of that because I think he's making her question her entire existence right now. It's a lot more fourth now than back. Yeah. Yes, definitely. But at the same time, like, you guys just seem to move on from this whole thing. And, you know, if my two years in Love Island have taught me anything, and I could be wrong here, but it seems like there's always a toxic couple that comes out early on.

This was this year's toxic couple. Now, I fully believe that now that we have them separated, as we know, because soul and. and sincere are going to get voted as a couple. I think we're going to see a much different Melanie. I think we're going to see her kind of settle in, be able to actually explore other people, because I also think that by sincere gaslighting her was hindering her from exploring anywhere else.

Well, he's exploring soul. He's making her feel like she can't explore because she's like, well, I can't fuck up again, or I'm going to lose sincere. So I think the best thing that could have happened was the recoupling. But it's funny because like you said,

all sincere had to, do was kind of coaxed until that happened. And he would have gotten what he wanted anyway without burning down everything along the way. But he simply doesn't know how. I think my favorite part of this show, especially at this juncture, is the scramble that happens when you start to see how things are playing out. And you realize like, all right, you know what for Melanie?

Finally, she's like, all right, maybe this whole thing with sincere is not going to work out. I'm tired of getting burned by him every time I turn the corner. Let me go talk to Corbett. Corbin also is doing that because he's watching as I always forget his name, Caleb. I want to call him Caden every time. I don't know why. Maybe because we got a Cada, we got a Cada, Corbin and a Caleb on the same show. Yeah, and it can see.

So yeah, and now we've got Caleb and Kenzie. So I think that Corbyn's sitting there like, fuck, man. I don't know. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. What am I going to do? How am I going to get a kiss? Well, I don't know.

Oh, my God. It's Melody. Melody's here. Like, oh, my God, dude. But yeah, Melody, finally playing that. And we watched it play out with Corvin where he's kind of just watching Caleb and Kenzie across the way. He's like, shit, like, I'm going to be out.

And if I'm out, I'm out. I've got no other connection. Here walks Melanie, who feels burned by sincere. Let me go talk to her. Great. You pull each other for a chat. I don't exactly know how that played out. I think Melanie actually pulled him.

But she gets to the end of it. And he's like, I was going to pull you for a chat too. Yeah. I know. I'm looking at you for day. I was going to pull you any minute now. Every time I was gonna, you were out there with salt. Like, God, dude, what the fuck?

But when eventually gets down to it and they're talking. I think there is somewhat of a connection there. You know, my quote and bias aside for him actually not being a person and a robot, I think there is a bit of a connection there. And when he gets to the end of it, I actually like this. She doesn't know where him and Kenzie stands. I mean, they do sleep together. And we saw, which is always very bizarre to watch, you can see them like making out in the middle

of the night and they're doing a little bit more. It's like, all right, you're sleeping right next to them. You probably know that there's more there than what we're seeing on TV anyway. So at the end of it, when Corbyn asked for a kiss, you're like, I'm not saying no, but I am saying I need to check in with Kenzie because I feel like that's the right thing to do. I fully anticipated Kenzie being like, oh, you know what? It's Love Island. Don't worry about it.

I'm kind of shading towards Caleb anyway. She keeps calling him a cowboy. I'm like this, you can attest this. The guy has said he's not a cowboy. He lives in Charleston. He's not a cowboy. Now, he doesn't do himself any honors by talking about line dancing and shit later. I'm like, I don't know where you are anymore.

Yeah, I'm wearing a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. But I thought that's how it was going to break. I thought that Kenzie was going to be like, oh, yeah, of course. Like, I see what's going on with you and sincere, sincere and soul. You're going to be the odd woman out. That makes sense. Go talk to Corby and see if there's anything there. Instead, she was like, I just, I just don't believe you.

I can't believe that you would do this to me. I'm like, what the fuck? I didn't, I didn't expect this at all. Like, go, go have fun with Caleb. you're having fun with Caleb but I guess yeah Kenzie's just in that weird spot where she even said she's like I'm not used to having a roster this is fun like is it fun

I don't think it's fun and she also said it's not fun so she did it yeah she's not loving it it's nerve wracking I guess is the best way to do it but then again while you're looking around and this is when the other news breaks to everybody that gave is also making out with everybody that walks through the door so Bay is like shit I don't know what's going to happen here

I haven't explored like oh good that's the scramble that I love to see when you watch your man or you watch your girl just kind of floating around hooking up with whoever you're like fuck all right let me go explore because at the end of the day if we get a revote and we get a recoupling i might be out of here let me go figure out what's going on i'll pour court i'm going to pull corbin too what is going on corbin went from having no prospects to suddenly being able to pick whoever he was yeah and you know the funny thing with corbin he's so close to moving well you know like these conversations

conversations he's having aren't crazy. Like, hey, I want to explore this. Let's go talk. But he finishes every conversation with, I guess you know? Not the Bay one. The Bay one. No,

the Bay one. No, the Bay one. He was complaining about not getting a kiss. You know, and I respect Melanie for saying not yet. I'm going to go talk to Kenzie. But like you said,

that's the funniest part. She tried to respect Kenzie and still get shit for it. It's like, well, it's just fucked up. It's like, no, it's not. She told him no. And there, exploring. Like this is what the show is about, which leads me to my next thing, which is Anaya,

who I love, I love Anaya. She needs to explore. She hasn't explored anybody. She desperately needs to explore. And I think that would open up. That's the other part. They always talk about this. Like just like the toxic couple, there's the strong couple. And everybody keeps looking at an Nia and KC. Like you guys are so strong. It doesn't look like anything's going on. But every conversation they have together, it's where KC's just kind of plugging away a little bit. Like, yeah, you know, I just feel like I want to explore. Like, what if somebody walks through that's exactly my type? And he's another one that just says something wrong every time he opens his mouth.

But I know what he means that I'm on board with it. It's just when it's not reciprocated and when you have this conversation with Anaya and her response is, I mean, I would be upset if you went to go do that. I would be really upset. I can't imagine that you going to do that. But then she's talking to other people and she's like, I mean, that's the name of the game. You're going to go explore. But you can't do that.

You can't say that to your friends. And they keep an eye on KC while he's talking. talking to soul in episode 11 and be like, I can't even imagine why he's doing that right now. I don't even want to go talk to him. Which, where do you want? Like,

I don't understand where you are. I think she wants people to think she doesn't care, but she does care. Yeah. And so she tells Casey she cares. But for her sake, I want her to explore. I think her and Casey are fine.

I do think that they're a strong couple. But I would be nervous of somebody walking in that door and kind of stealing his attention. Because where does that leave you? You really don't have a connection with anybody else. That leads me back to my sincere Anaya idea, which now at this point, I'm like, oh, no, no. Anaya, you stay far away from him because he's a fuck boy. But I need her to get involved.

She's got to play the game more. She's not giving herself enough options. And I think, like you said, Casey's kind of breadcrubbing to the point where he's like, he wants to explore possibly multiple other people. And he's kind of laying out this narrative. And every time he does, she gets upset about it, which is only going to make him want to do it more. Meanwhile, she's not doing it at all.

And I want to nigh it to find her man. I do too. I really do. And I think there's a, weirdly, there's a lack of bombshells. I know that we just got Sol and Jen walk in. I bet we get two or three next. I would imagine we have to in this next stretch, either Monday night's episode or Tuesday night's episode,

there should be bombshells. Not a recoupling or anything. They just announced today that they're going to be actually releasing in movie theaters next Monday night. And it's for Casa. So Casa starts next week, which I'm always excited about. Should we go to watch it. If we have the time. Who has the time these days to do that?

You know, not us. But I do wonder what the wrinkle is going to be with Casa because last year the wrinkle was fucking awful. It was sucked. Yeah, nobody goes home. Casa, terrible disappointment. one recoupling from what I remember where somebody actually got, I think it was Huda and Chris. Otherwise,

no one else got recoupled up. And then it was just CASA people floating around. And they're like, all right, what are we supposed to do now? And then everybody ends up getting voted off anyway. So hopefully they just kind of go back to the original. Oh, yeah.

Wait, I thought Coco was going to be back on this season. Maybe. I don't remember seeing that. Where did you see that? No, no, no.

After, because I thought she did a good job on TV last year. So I was like, I wouldn't be surprised if they bring her back because I thought she was in and out pretty quick and did a good dad. It was like a, it was a me. She started dating Chris and Beyond the Villa, which was a dog shit experiment. That's the other thing that I actually, I can't help myself.

But when I'm watching the show, I start thinking about like, who's going to be on Beyond the Villa because last season was such a disappointment because they couldn't get any of the big hitters. So they just threw out like random people. And I'm like, oh, God, it's going to be a show circled around Corbyn. We're going to have Corbyn walking around trying to be the main guy because I think he's so funny to watch, dude. He might be, but again, just don't do that.

If you don't get any of the big people from this show, which I don't even know who it's going to be at this point. But if you don't, just don't do that show, please, for the love of God, it was awful this year. Either way, there's one more doubtful I need to go explore that we do need to talk about that a lot of people were commenting on immediately after our episode saying I can't wait for them to see what's going on. And it's baby boy Bryce because this was this was a travesty.

I don't know. I get the sentiment, but I do it with anybody else. And if you're trying to test your connection, pick anybody else to go do that with. Right. This was another panic. It was, it had to have been like, I just said that I really love the scramble. This was a weird one. And I get it in a way.

Like, yeah, you and Trinity have been a bit of a slow burn, but you've kind of been together since day one for the most part. Figuring it out. Seems like Trinity likes you. She's opening up, at least from what we can see. But Bryce has that panic. And the panic sets in not if a bombshell walks through the door, who's exactly my type I need to go explore. It's, I've only ever had one other interest in this house.

And it's with my best friend's girl. It was so bizarre. It just feeds further into this bromance, honestly. I'm like, do you want to, do you want a connection with her because Zach has a connection with her? Or another part of this whole thing. I feel like Bryce is questioning his connection with Trinity because Zach is questioning his connection with Trinity. And he's in his ear.

I don't think she likes you that much, bro. Why? Based on what? Because our conversations that I've seen them have, I think she does. I think that she's pretty up front with them. Like, yeah, you know,

early odds, it has been a slow burn, but every conversation we have is more reassuring. And all of those things are leading to what seems like, at least on what is giving off a TV, that you guys probably have one of the strongest connections in the house. And yet every time we see a one-on-one with Zach and Bryce, it's questioning that connection,

which is not healthy for the connection. And for him to go to Kada, of all people there, I agree with you. The premise of it makes a lot of sense. I want to make sure this connection with Trinity is legit. So I'm going to go and put it to the test with somebody else in this. house that I think I have a connection with.

You don't have a connection with Katie just because you check her out and you think she's hot. That's not a connection. You think she's hot. You're attracted to her. Or because you stood on a red dot before you even saw her and she took you with Zach and the two of you had fair shots at going for her and Zach won. That's what it is. That's what it.

That's what's driving this whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was very bizarre. Also incredibly funny to watch those sitting down because he has to pull Zach for. to talk to Zach about it, essentially get his blessing. Zach laughs at him, then realize he's being serious. He's like, what the fuck is going on?

And when he eventually walks over and he, the way the Bryce moved was bizarre. Like you can, it's a very similar conversation to Casey and Anaya, where they're sitting down talking about like if your, if your type walks through the door, where are we going to do? Yeah, I feel like we've been kind of slow burning, but it's going to look different than what Zach and Kada have. Fine, whatever. That's all well and good.

But then he moves on and sits with Zach. gets his quote unquote blessing and tells him he's going to do it anyway and he even says like i think she's going to laugh at you like i think he's going to do that and when we finally get to the conversation in episode 11 i think it was or no it was episode 10 whatever nine i probably nine because 10 was after son either way i'm getting caught up on bullshit when he finally sits down with kata it goes so awkwardly and ever the awkwardness is already built up beyond belief at this point you you're not going to have a normal conversation with Kato. You're not going to actually have the conversation that you said that you wanted to have

with Trinity or in between. It was a joke. It was, yeah, you know, like Trinity and I are pretty good, but I just want to see. And the only other person that I've had eyes for has been you. So I just kind of want to close that door entirely. It's like you're already leading off, but negging yourself. And then also saying, I see what you and Zach have and it looks great. And she's like, yeah, of course it does.

And also I feel like we're better as friends. It's like, why are you doing this conversation in the first place? I don't know. You should be doing it. And I guess that's where the panic sets in where it's like, where are we in the whole scale of this? Like we're moving on. Like every day, me and Trinity get closer and I'm going to lose that opportunity to explore.

I can't wait for a bombshell. I just have to do it now. But he's going to shoot himself in the foot because the way that this works out, obviously you're going to cost it next week. But you're going to get bombshells this week. One of them is probably going to be your type. And now it's like, oh, I already had that conversation with Keda. I'm now going back to Trinity telling her.

I just needed to have that to get it out of my system. Now I can focus on us entirely. Somebody's going to walk through and you're going to be like, fuck, I missed my opportunity. No, he's not. He's not. He's like, I need to go explore this and see just in case, you know, this doesn't work out. And he's going to shoot himself in the foot, which is what I said. I thought there was more to Bryce.

I'm not out on Bryce. I still think he's, you know, a decent dude. He can come back. He definitely can. He's not like in the dog house or at least that far in the dog house. But at the same time, cause for pause. gives me a moment of hesitation like oh don't love that don't love that at all and i love trinity i think she's great she deserves the best dude there and it has been bryce up until now but

bryce gave me a little reason to hesitate again he's fine but i'm hesitating now but the funniest thing is the app crashed so the recoupling was delayed as we go into episode nine we do get the new couples, though. And no surprise. You get Caleb with Kenzie. You get Jen and Gabriel, which would have been, I guess, the most surprising, but not really because Jen only really talked to Gabriel. She's not doing anything either. She's not really mixing it up with anybody. And I will say, I guess no one's mixing up with her either. But that vote to me was just simply, they were talking once. Let's vote those two together. We have to vote someone. Yeah. I honestly think they're perfect for each other because when they sit and talk,

they say the same shit. There's no substance. It's just the same back and forth with like nothing being said. And then obviously you get sold. Yeah, well, Jen even said. She's like, I don't even care about the conversations. I just like how hot he is and that he wants to kiss me.

Like, okay. Okay. My favorite trope this season, though, is people hearing that they're not somebody's type and questioning their entire existence. What do you mean? I don't love hearing that. She said like, I'm not used to dating a sexy guy.

And he's like, I don't really like that. She said, I'm not her type, but, you know, as long as she continues to make me feel good. I was like, she just called you sexy. They take that away from it. But every time, I don't think a lot of these people are used to getting turned down or not being somebody's type. So watching them scramble after that has been very fun. In Toronto, every arrival is a statement. And nothing says it better than this.

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and now wherever you get your podcasts. When the chaotic are on the case. But obviously the big, big mix up here is soul and sincere, which we were all expecting. No surprises there. And honestly, first I want to commend America for not doing what we did last year and just fucking to show up by doing something, quote unquote,

funny because the hood of thing to this day, that whole season shifted that day. when we had a chance to get her out, not the first time. First time, I think we're all like, ha ha, this is funny. The second time we should have known better. The second time we voted her through again. Yeah. This year we took it a little bit seriously, so I appreciate that.

And soul and sincere, I believe, is going to push this show into a better direction overall. See, I don't think that's going to last. I think something happens. The way that soul is moving, and honestly, it's not just soul, but you can also start to look at Melanie a little bit because at the end of all of that, Bay is the, the odd woman out. Corbyn, Corbyn picks Melanie. We all figured that was going to happen. Bay is the last one out.

So she ends up going home. But the way, you can look at it two ways because Soul has shown she's letting things get to her very personally. Like the game where they do the sweet as pie game and they're all talking. I totally get. I'll go. There's a piece of it. Yeah, there is a piece of it.

But I think that, again, it's a game, especially. in a challenge it's not that big of a deal like it she just gets it was a negative question everybody else was getting it people were getting a little upset but she pushed it away and then went off and cried in case he's like i don't know what you want me to do with this but you can look at melody because when Melanie starts to make it a bigger deal with the soul aspect all of the other girls who have been there since day one they go and talk to Melanie soul isn't really having any friendships develop in the house i mean even her and jen don't talk anymore and they talk to his bombshells when they walked in. Jen's not really talking to anybody except for Gabriel now. Soul's just kind of out

on an island by herself talking sincere all day and then looking and watching as all the other girls are looking at her like, oh, you stole her man. It's like, no, that's not really how it played out, but she's letting it get to her a little too much. And I could see that being a bit of a damper on the show moving forward. I could see that. Here's my take on it. All right. One, I didn't think that it was fair because nobody's really tried to get to know her. You know, so to that, say like she's getting labeled as a home record more or less but she hasn't done anything wrong like she came in as a bombshell and she's doing what bombshells do and no one else is talking to her right like no one's making that effort to have that connection i took it a step further because

that's what i do i overthink things i would imagine that this is something she's probably dealt with her whole life because of how she looks like she's gorgeous right objectively gorgeous so i i would assume that people assume things about her without getting to know her that she does this kind of stuff. She steals people's man. She's, she's moving dirty when she's not actually doing any of that. She's just going to keep into herself and talking to sincere. So I think it was bigger than that. I think this is

like a residual thing that she's actually dealt with a lot in the past, especially in groups and groups of girls, groups of women. So I think that it's stung a bit more because she's here now on the island and everyone's there for the same reason and you're supposed to explore and talk to people and she does that. And now she's

a home record, but other people doing it, they're just playing the game. So that's how I took it. That's not really fair to label her these things when you guys aren't really talking to her because she seems very nice. So that's kind of my take. I do agree. Like, I don't want to get dampered down by stuff like that. Like, we have enough drama between couples that I don't want to see infighting. And it gets cleaned up pretty quickly, which I appreciated.

You know, Melanie goes and talks to her. Other people go to talk to her and they do point to sincere as the actual problem, which is good. I don't want to see in a love triangle the two women get berated. while it's the dude that's fucking them both up and it's his problem. So I'm glad we're able to shift in that direction. But looking around at these couples now, Corbyn and Melanie, that one has legs. That one I get.

Yeah, it does. But only if Melanie gets out of the way of herself with this sincere thing. Because I think she's trying, but I think it's a little fucking ridiculous to go sleep in soul ties in episode nine. Like that's a little, little too early to be doing that shit. And you have a new connection. So it might be a thing where she's like, I don't really know.

Like sincere is the only one for me. And that's going to get kind of annoying if she doesn't develop. Because I do think her and her Corbyn could be fine if they can stop thinking and talking about sincere and soul. Casey and Anaya, Casey pulling soul to go talk was kind of wild. And again, he doesn't say much of substance. It's almost like it's.

more of like laying a foundation again, which he's been doing for like four episodes now. And we told everybody to kind of keep an eye on this one because they are not the strongest couple because Casey does want to go explore. He just doesn't know how to because every time he goes to try to explore, and now he gets upset at him. Even though she's saying, no, it's okay. That's what the game is all about. Is it?

I don't think it is. I don't think you mean that. But him sitting down with soul was hilarious because he doesn't say anything. He's like, yeah, we're just trying to figure out how to explore. And I feel like you were my type as soon as you walk through. But every time that I look to go pull you, you were with soul. So I think that ship is just kind of sailed. It's like, okay, then what was the point in this conversation?

You don't have to officially pull her to tell her that she was your type and you never got a chance. You could just mention that in passing. I think he's, again, he's just constantly testing the waters and those waters are rough. That's the big thing for me. I think he's just, he's breadcrumbing a little bit. So he can go back and have a more in-depth conversation because now he can go back. back to Anaya and tell her, I told her there's nothing there. But then he can have another conversation as we see in the next episode and it gets a little

bit more in depth. And then he can say, well, you know, we had the conversation. I told her what was up. But then we started to develop a connection. He's trying to protect himself and then go explore. I have no issue with him going to explore. I think that Anaya needs to go explore as well. My issue comes in when again, it's similar or sincere.

He's saying one thing to Anaya. and moving differently than that. There's no problem with the exploration. The exploration is expected. It's still early. It's part of the show, 100%. But it made a lot of sense to me when he says, I was going to go explore soul.

I waited a couple of days. I was trying to figure out how to do it. And in those few days, Anaya and I became so strong that I didn't feel the need to. Fine. Okay, cool. That makes a lot of sense. If you want to stick to that,

but you use that. one and then you then you fall back on it then you pull soul twice and you're giving her googly eyes and she you know again she's trying to explore connection she realizes now if it's not sincere like i don't have anybody to talk to because i don't talk to anybody so she's doing what she's supposed to do on this show kc's doing what he's supposed to do in the show but he's doing it in a sneaky way yeah that's where the dudes it always makes me laugh watching this show i would say the most successful people you see on these shows are the ones that are up front. Bryce, for all of his shenanigans, at the very least, tells Trinity about his shenanigans.

Like, it doesn't make a lot of sense that he would go do something like that because it's going to fuck up your best friend group. But at the same time, he was up front. Like, it seems so simple. It's the dudes that move a certain way. Like you're not in a house with all of these people. Like, they're not going to see you, Gabriel. You're making out in soul ties.

You go, did anybody see that? Probably, Gabe. Probably. Because you're in an open space. Yeah. That's always very funny. I mean, I love the way that when the dudes are moving that way, it's just so that they can keep the door open. Again, like Bryce, I still don't really know where I'm going to end up with him.

But all he's doing is just trying to temper Trinity's expectations. And they're listening to what they're saying, but they're not really because all they really want is, hey, by the way, I just want to keep this door cracked a little bit. I don't want to close off entirely. They're so scared of closing off and just ruining their experience. So between him and Casey, I mean, since here is on the other end of the spectrum, he's just saying one thing and doing something completely different, which by the way, again, we haven't gotten to this yet.

He doesn't have to do anything. He can just explore his connection with soul. And I know for a fact when we watch the episode tonight, he's going to do something. He's going to pull Melanie for a chat and be all lovey-dovey with her. And then 20 minutes later, pull Soul for a chat and reassure her and tell her, No, there's nothing there. I just wanted to check it with her because obviously we had a connection.

But I'm fully invested in you. But he's going to tell Melanie that he's still invested in her, even though they're not a couple. I hope she stays strong. I hope she does too because I feel like it's just going to further drive a wedge between her and Corbyn's potential connection. And then you've got Casey somewhere in the middle where he's just planting those seeds and breadcrumbing, like you said. He just wants to keep the door slightly open, but Anaya is not having any of it. So it's going to get very, very interesting. I know.

I know it cracks me up watching. And it always is the strongest couple, quote, unquote, because you just assume they're good. But no one asks them how they're doing, you know, because you assume that they're good. And then shenanigans happen. And then people get upset. Then somebody's left out on an island. And then the producers have to throw a wrench into the whole show and bring two people back. They got voted off out of nowhere, which they've never done before.

Remember that? I do. I do. I do. But yeah, I'm not mad at that. I know you are, but I actually, I liked that last year. But regardless, we're in a very funny time because a lot of people are trying to hold on to. It's still early.

I'm like, it's not that early. It's not that early. It's not that early. And that's still an excuse. And I think that's also coming from the Islanders because they keep saying it's so early. I can't close off. Maybe it's not. Maybe it is.

Maybe it's not. I don't really know. I mean, I know we have Costa next week. and want to see how early it actually is. But that's the other thing, for all these guys that are actively ruining their connections by trying to keep that door open, you get to go to a different villain. Or you stay in your villain. The girls come to you.

Whatever it might be. You're going to have a free-for-all. You can do whatever you want. Movie night's probably going to be around the corner. They never did that last year, which pissed me off. But movie night's going to show that you did things. But at the end of the day, if you're just experiencing what you've wanted to experience, you could just wait for that.

I mean, I'm not telling you that you have to have the closed off, conversation before that happens. You don't have to do anything. You can just continue to grow the connection, see where it goes. I feel like there's so many conversations with all of these couples, and maybe not Zach and Cato because, as we know at the end of episode 11, they get to go to hideaway. But every other couple, they've had these very serious conversations about the connection. They've had these really breathtaking conversations about, I feel so strong where we are. I don't even want to do these things. Like, you're just going to shoot yourself in the foot at some point. You're going to do something wrong.

And if you don't, you might look around and you might look back when this is all over and be like, why didn't I do that? Why didn't I do that? It's because he got so caught up in the moment trying to reassure for nothing. That's the funniest part. They're overextending for no reason. You don't have to say the things that you're saying, but you keep saying these things. And then you see the panic throttle like Zach. We haven't talked about Zach yet.

Nah. Our vanilla paste fucking blah watching page ride, dude. Yeah. He is just a sneaky little shitter. And he goes under the guise of like, I'm just being real. Like I'm just going to tell the truth and I just keep pissing people off. You don't have to offer up the things that you're saying. Yeah.

And like you're in, you're in Bryce's ear. You're just kind of moving me, me, me. Also, in the challenges, you're going all out. fine you're making out with kato you guys are getting into it it's hot it's heavy whatever every time you're not in a challenge the kisses are legit just peck peck peck peck peck peck and you guys are so good you claim to be so good you have these conversations we're so connected and then without fail every two or three days you have this weird moment of oh fuck what if what if i jumped into quick can i ask an uncomfortable question what if this is too much what i love that where did that come from

It makes no sense. It's almost like he, somebody like poked him or sent him a note like, hey, you have to ask this. Like it comes out of nowhere all the time. Yeah, it might be his conversations with Bryce.

I don't really know. Sean even said on after study. He's like, honestly, I feel like the strongest connection in this villa is Bryce and Zach. Like they, the bromance that has developed between them,

he said he was cracking up when Bryce and Zach were sitting down talking about him pulling Kada for a chat. It's just, it's beyond funny the way that those things are going on. Other than that, I mean, like, yeah, things are kind of playing out how you would expect. There's not a lot more that goes on, especially in episode 11, like before the hideaway thing.

Yeah, I mean, you get like the surprising makeout between, I'm sorry, like the surprising click that happens with Melanie and Corbyn, but we all know that like that might not go anywhere if Melanie decides that she's going to hung up on sincere. I don't think she's going on. I don't think she is, honestly. It's just the sleeping in soul ties gives me the ick. but everybody else is just kind of straight path. It's just a straight and narrow path for a lot of them. Like, yeah, there's a couple of hiccups there, but you don't see a lot of movement.

And that's why I keep questioning why they're trying to explore with other established couples. It makes no sense to me. The way the game works, the way the show works, there's going to be people walking through the door tomorrow night, the night after that. Just hold on, just wait. Leave the door open for that.

Yeah. Like, don't leave the door open and then waste it on going, to talk to somebody who's been with the same couple since day one. That doesn't mean. Your best friend. Yeah. Like, none of that ever makes any sense. So I feel like we're building for chaos.

We've been a little stagnant. Even Baya going home, like, wasn't that shocking. It's just been a little stagnant. It's been a little too straightforward. I want some chaos and I want all the bombshells to walk in this week. And then I want CASA next week to be absolute insane. Well, here's what I think we are set up for because of the straight and narrow path that we've been taking.

But we've gotten enough conversations from. islanders to know people's eyes are still searching the villa. Like just because we have settled into these couples does not mean that people aren't still keeping the door open. That's all Brace is doing, by the way. Like I want him in Trinity to work. I want them to be legit. I want him to be legit.

His little conversations tell me that he's keeping his foot in the door in case somebody walks in. I believe Zach is doing the same thing. That's why every two or three episodes, you have that moment where he asks Kata, whether it's in soul ties or laying. in bed in the middle of the night, which is such an awkward time to do it in front of everybody, but whatever. Staying like, what if, what if, you know, you leave me?

And I love that he frames it that way. He's not saying, what if I see a bombshell? He always follows it up with that. He goes, it could be me too. But it's always like the onus is on Kada. But that sets up some real shit that's going to pop off because these dudes are over extending themselves in these one-on-one conversations. They're saying too much that they don't need to be saying.

Then they realize it. They try to reel it in, which is always funny to watch. That pisses somebody off. But all it tells me is you guys are waiting for CASA. You're waiting for a bombshell to come in. And you're trying to mitigate the damage early after you've also said to them that you're pretty much falling for them. They're the only one in the villa for you. So look, not the brightest bulbs in the tree.

No, they never are. It's coming out that way. They just need to fucking just be up front. I will never understand it on this show how people. The lack of honesty. Yes, because that's the name of the game. If you want to move throughout the villa of your own volition, just tell people you're doing that.

Gabe, for example, like you know you want to just smooch. So just say, I'm being very open. Don't lie and don't go, stop asking everybody for a kiss. That should stop now. him and Corbyn.

You knock it off too. Because I do like Corbyn. I think him and Melanie Click. But he needs to stop asking for smooches. Yeah. And then being like, well, I learned, I learn my lesson. No, you didn't because you keep doing it. It's why we need bombshells this week more than anything.

Yeah. I would imagine that we're going to get some. Yeah. Let's see. Let's see what the audience thinks. Maybe we're in line with them. Ryan Stomeman 83. You get two for two today, Ryan.

Why do they always? let the audience pick who the bombshells couple up with. That's a good question. I do think we should let some of those things play out, especially like early on, like let it play out. You don't need to do the audience pick right away. I agree,

but they're always going to push the audience to get involved. It's all about Numbies, Ryan. It's all about Numbies. This is a business at the end of the day. Natalie K. Cahill. Is Casey just comfortable or does he like Anaya? This is a two-parter, but the second one's just a statement.

Also, Zach is an instigator. There you go. I told you, his little shitster is what he is. And he hides behind. I'm just being honest. I care about everybody so much. No, you don't. You're just a little shitster.

I think you can say the same thing for Casey as you can for Bryce. They do like their partner with Trinity and Anaya, but they also don't want to lock in right now. They kind of want to see what they get to relay that. They don't know how to explain that without being an asshole. So, yeah, I don't know. And then Anaya gets upset. And he's like, come on.

I'm like, no. Dude, you're moving weird. Don't blame her. From K. Looker Woods, should Corbyn have offered to sleep in soul ties with Melanie? I don't understand why these people sleep outside in Fiji with all the bugs that we see and all of those things. It doesn't make any sense to me. I think, I don't know if he should have, but I would have liked to have seen him do that because then at least I can put some of those suspicions to bed. If he actually said, do you want me to come with you?

and she said, no, I'm going to go by myself. That tells me everything I need to know. She's uncomfortable with being around sincere and soul, and this is not going to get any better. If she said yes, then at least it can just be like, look, I'm a little uncomfortable, but yes, I still want to do this with you. I want to explore with you.

Then go ahead. I think that would have been fine, but we didn't get that moment. I think the setup though now and, you know, Melanie being able to kind of like settle in, not be driven crazy by sincere at all of his bullshit. Mm-hmm.

I just feel like you're going to get a power couple in Corbett and Melanie because I think they're both going to be able to freely explore with no repercussions. Yeah. And then find out whether they have a legit connect. Like that's kind of where you want to be, honestly. They're in a probably the best spot because they're exploring each other. They seem to like each other. But nobody's going to get mad at the person still exploring stuff because obviously Corbett and Kenzie and Caleb is a fucking mess. That's an absolute mess because she wanted her cowboy, even though he had.

has said multiple times. Somebody made the comment like, oh, he's a cowboys. No, not really. He said that. And now it's funny because now he's leaning fully into it, the cowboy hat and the cowboy boots because he realizes, Kenzie needs a cowboy.

Well, settle up. I'll be your cowboy. Just so I can beat Corbyn. Like, that's all it's happening. Uh, from Jade Brianna, justice for Baya and soul. And time has shown that Mel, while pathetic is no hooda,

insincere. Look, I don't even think that Mel is I don't think I'm sad. I'm sad. Sincere definitely drove her crazy over the last couple of episodes. I think she did a couple things early on, but it was early on. What's the big deal? We're all exploring, aren't we?

Are we supposed to be exploring? Yeah, I think she convinced her that those indiscretions early on were worthy of the response he gave her by being a fuck boy, which is not. I'm team Mel. Yeah. And also I hope that the, while pathetic is no huda, I hope. I hope what you mean is that Huda was very pathetic and not that she is some like lofty standard that we need to get to

because oh yeah that is the wrong show for this we did not yeah no you're not Huda fans here no um oh from Samantha Balsamo am I the only one who doesn't feel bad for soul I don't think she was being picked on I don't think she's being picked on but she's not being included but she's also not including herself so it's an awkward thing I think she just needs to get thicker skin, but I might be wrong about that. First thing, I think that's a very missed opportunity with a name like that to not have a

username like balsamo vinaigrette. Seems like a no-brainer to me. But I'm on the opposite side of this one. I do think that she was picked on. And I think that she could do a better job about getting involved with people in the villa, for sure. Like that goes without saying. But I do think that there was no reason for her to catch multiple pies for essentially

home wrecking when she's just playing the game. Yeah. Megano, Megano, new aftersend format, seeing dumped Islanders talk to family is really good. Yes, it is. Actually, we didn't really talk about that because we talked about it before we started recording. But I love it.

I think it's awesome. The fact that they get their phones back and then they get recorded getting their phones back. Sean gets updated on the fact that the mayor had bad things to say about him and that his sister was getting into a fight with the mayor online. Was very funny and also very nice. Baya talking to her friend was also very fun and very nice. I really like that format.

I think it's great. I'm surprised that it took them this long to do this. Yeah, I miss Baya. I wish she was still on the show. I really liked her. I wouldn't be stunned. I would imagine her or Sean or possibly both will be in Casa. I would be shocked if you don't think either of them.

No. They already got their exit interview on. Oh, they're right. You're right. Yeah. I would have liked Bayer to come back. Sean, whatever. But they have, I wouldn't have minded.

a return. And then last one here from Alyssa M. Woods. Can they please stop making out with everybody in every challenge? That's the show. Have you watched Blue Island before? You can speed through them. Yeah. Please. Yeah. Sometimes it does get a little too much. We speed.

I, I again, was traveling yesterday and I was backed up like three episodes. So I had to knock them out or two episodes and I had to catch up for last night. This is not a good show to watch in public. There's just no way about it. I've tried it at the Jim, I look like a fucking creep on the Stairor master because people don't know I have a podcast

about this. So they're like, oh, look at this guy watching people. It's like soft-core porn on his phone. Yeah. And then on the plane, the problem with that is, you know, you're on a plane and you're sitting there and you put the phone up on your trade table. And then you're kind of like looking around the plane every once in a while, just like, you know, losing, losing focus.

And then you look back at your phone and you're like, oh, God. And it's like a very, very graphic scene. And then you have to look around and be like, who's watching me? watch this and what are they think of me right now. God, I'm gross. Scooby agrees. Scooby does agree. Yeah, he's barking all about that.

I just got an email from Fandango, where you can get movie tickets. Monday, June 22nd at King of Prussia 9 p.m. You can go see Casa a Morse. We could go to K-Pott beforehand and then go see Casa. Yeah, who knows? It's a theatrical event and it's two hours long. Jesus, okay.

That's a lot. Yeah, that might be a lot. We'll have you have Korean barbecue first and then we go. It'd be fun. It could be a good time. It could be a good time. We'll keep you updated on that. But we have to date night in a while, pal.

I know. Yeah, we'll have to see how this all shakes out with all the things this week. Again, I assume there's going to be some bombshells going on this week. Otherwise, I don't know what else is going to happen. Yeah, honestly, I think tonight is going to be a massive shakeup episode. to launch us into this week. And because we need something drastic before CASAS. Something big has to happen leading us into CASA so that you get a bunch of scored people

going into CASA looking for revenge. And then they over-extend themselves in CASA. And then they go, oh, God, I missed my original connection. But I just made out with three dudes back-to-back or, oh, I just made out with three chicks back-to-back. That's what we need. So we need chaos this week. I would imagine that the producers will understand the assignment.

there is because Ian even said in this last episode that there will be a vote this week there's another vote this there's another I don't know it's a bomb shell no or recover maybe yeah I don't know what's going to be but at least there's going to be something to shake it up because I don't want to get a little too stagnant here yeah buckle up this way I would imagine we're going to get some some big moves being made but uh yeah look still very much enjoying this show curious to see where we go who ends up where and uh the Dudes have a lot of, uh, explaining to do. Lots of explaining to do. And the ladies, I just need y'all to explore more.

The boys are setting the tone and follow their lead. They want to go exploring all around. You guys go explore all around. You deserve it. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Nope. Well, it's our show.

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