Bros & Shows - You Can Leave! (RHOSLC Full Recap, RHOC Full Recap)

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

What's up Bro's? We start the episode off with Shooter's new segment of current events and were talking Kelce+Swift. Then its off to RHOC where the ladies are finishing up their trip to Mexico. Jenn and Ryan are still a hot button issue as the ladies can't seem to think of anything else interesting to talk about. Meanwhile, Heather has become the punching bag of the group. While Heather does have her flaws, we see the group pick her apart for every little thing and its getting old in a hurry. All it looks like to us is that everyone is jealous of Heather and her wealth. The group visits a Shaman where intentions seem to be peace, love and understanding but when we get to dinner that all goes out the window. Heather is in the crosshairs again when Tamra forces drama on her with stupid allegations of things Heather has said and Tamra continues to be unwatchable. Heather leaves the table and hints at potentially being done with the show altogether due to the other women's treatment of her. Then we're back with the Salt Lake crew at the Trixie Motel. The rest of the group arrives to find Whitney and her unexpected guest Angie. Meredith does not care for it at all and instead of trying to not bring attention to herself, Angie decides she's gonna be defensive and rude to Meredith. To get ready for dinner, the group decides to go shopping and pick out outfits for one another. Whitney turns into a scientist getting married, Lisa looks like she's headed to Coachella and Angie dresses herself... They head to Carey Grants old house which is now a five star restaurant and Lisa gets upset about her clothing for the affair and mentions once again about the loss of her $60k ring. At dinner they play the most boring game of "interesting facts about yourself" followed up with a horrible idea, Warm and Fuzzy/ Cold and Prickly which sets the stage immediately for disaster. Heather doesn't trust Angie, Monica is sick of hearing about Lisa's ring and wants her to be more aware and Angie tops it all off with a toast to the Greek word meaning fake. Meredith has an all time blow up and gives us the gift of You Can Leave! Before sharing with Lisa that she may have some dirt on Angie's husband. Is that true? Or is this a pattern with Meredith like she did with Lisa last season..? This episode is brought to you by Rocket Money. Stop paying for unused subscriptions and manage your money the easy way with Rocket Money! Go to RocketMoney.com/bravbros to download the app for free! This episode is sponsored by Manscaped. Say goodbye to cuts and nicks and start grooming with ease. Whether its for you or a loved one, the Lawnmower 4.0 is the best trimmer for all your bodily needs and no more cuts! For 20% off and Free Shipping go to Manscaped.com and use code BravBros! Time Stamps: Current Events w/ Shooter (2:23) Rose and Thorn (5:40) RHOC (9:16) RHOSLC (44:01) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brov Bros. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Bravo Bros. Your favorite podcast from The Bros for everybody. For whoever wants to listen, I am your co-host, Steele Russell,

joined as always by the one and only shoots Magout. Well, what's up, dude? Long, long week. Exhausting week. Yeah, it's been a long one. At times for about 42 minutes there, which felt like about three hours, it felt longer. Yeah, we're not going to say why, though.

Not yet. No, we don't want to. Nope. Because everybody who's listened to this podcast before knows the reasoning behind what I'm talking about. Yes, they do. Specifically, 42 minutes worth of nothing. It felt like 432 minutes.

At the fucking very least. And we'll get them. We're not going to spill anything over here because we just want to talk about that when we have to actually contractually obligated to speak about that. More or less. Pretty much. That's where we are now. So other than that, you know, I'm pretty bummed down. I was supposed to, I was looking at a concert to go to.

And it turns out it's tonight, not next week. So I really wanted to go to that concert. Now I cannot because I'm here talking about Bravo. Well, I appreciate your sacrifice. Once again, we put you guys first. That's what we do here, because we love you so much. But what concert was it? It was Death Cat for Cutie and the Postal Service.

See, that would have been a good one. Would have been a good one. It would have been a good time. Beautiful weather out there before the storms start rolling in here. We get washed out for the weekend, but, you know, it's okay. I'll figure it out. I'll get to another concert. You know, it would have been a lot for me to go back-to-back weeks.

I went to the birds game last week. Yeah. You know, we kind of rushed through things just to try to get everything tidied up, and then I went down to the parking lot. got hammered, went to the game, you know how it goes. Hung over for three days. Hung over for about three days. Yep, yep.

You know how it works. Didn't have any espresso martinis, though, so I wasn't puking in a sprinter van somewhere. Slash potentially pee. Slash potentially pee. We're going to get into that. Yeah. I don't, yeah, okay. Oh, we can talk about poop, but we can't talk about pee?

I don't know. We'll get into it. Yeah, that's, let's get a little into some current events. Yeah, what's our current event for Friday? As much as I wanted to talk about the fighter jet that just went missing. That crashed in some poor man's backyard pretty much. Poor guy. Fucking hilarious.

All these people claiming to have different video footage of the plane crashing, and like half of them were video games. The funniest one to me is the fact that our stealth technology has gotten so good that they could not find a plane, and then they blamed it on the weather. Hey, you know, you get what you get when you reverse engineer alien technology. That's what I'm talking about. If you want to get into that, I already know the whole conspiracy. Yeah, we can get into a conspiracy episode.

So apparently, according to one of the whistleblowers, this was in front of Congress. Okay, so they're under oath. Now, I will say all of the whistleblowers, because I love space, you know that? Like, space fascinates me. And I like to listen to all the stuff. I don't believe it all necessarily. But one of the whistleblowers said that in like 1930 or something, there was a UFO crash in Europe. Okay?

when they got all of the debris from it to avoid giving it to a country because they would use it for, you know, nefarious reasons or whatever, the Vatican stepped in, scooped up all this stuff, kept it in Vatican City. And it checks out. In 1940, I believe, or in the 40s, the United States purchased this material from the Vatican. Yep. And that is now why, by reverse engineering alien technology, we have the best jets in the world. world in the best jet propulsion system i am not sitting here with my tinfoil hat on saying this is true i'm just relaying information i think it's got to be true it's interesting and there's a fucking alien in what was it mexico somewhere in south america those paper michet ones yeah oh yeah

well they just bizarre shit going then they said that they gave them an autopsy or whatever but it's also the mexican government that ran the autopsy so yeah i don't know i don't know they're just we're so desensitized to all these things that they could legitimately tell us that there is life, like, everywhere else. And we would make jokes about it. People kind of shrug it off now. They're like, oh, they make jokes about it. I mean, it's good memeage.

But yeah, so we get a little bit into that. I kind of want to talk about worlds colliding a tiny bit. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift has been confirmed. Ah, yes, it has. I have to amend something because I was discussing this earlier with Dev, my beautiful loving wife. Swiftie. She is a Swifty.

And I said that Taylor confirmed it via, a source. I think it was the messenger or something. I have to amend that because Taylor herself didn't say it. A source close to Taylor said they're having fun. They're figuring things out. Seeing where things go, I believe was the actual phrase. They're seeing where things go, but Taylor's in her fun girl era. Which is great.

We love that for her. And you know who's fun? Travis Kelsey seems like it. It was confirmed on Eagle Sports Radio on like Tuesday morning. Just driving into work, listening to Jason Kelsey talk about the game. And of course they have to ask him about that. because it's the burning question pretty much across the internet. And he said that he didn't want to get into it and then immediately confirmed it.

Yeah, I love that. That's just what you love from your All-Pro Center. Thank you, Jason. Thanks, Jason. For putting us first. Doing the Lord's work. Yeah, we really appreciate it. But without further ado, let's get into a little Rose and Thorn action.

I'm going to start off a little rose here to just get us off feeling pretty good. This one comes from, none other than Butterbob. Butter Bob. Oh, I just always said, thanks, Butterbob. Thanks, Butterbob. He commented on, I believe it was your discussion about Shannon last week, and he said, I don't always agree with your takes on Housewives, but I was impressed with your conversation on your latest episode about Shannon. You had a very thoughtful and nuanced convo about alcoholism, as well as the grace and accountability for people who drive drunk.

Drunk driving kills, hashtag. Yeah, that's a good comment. Thanks a lot, Butterbob, that's what we wanted. Yeah, and I think, you know, as we discussed, you know, it was two different perspectives on the matter. neither were incorrect, but I left that conversation thinking the same thing. I was like, this was good. This is exactly what I wanted. So, thanks, Butterbob. Thanks, Butterbob. Shout out Butterbob. Everybody needs a Butterbob in their life. Yeah, they do.

And here's the other end of that. Somebody else commented on that video and just said, oh, my God, get a life. Oh, stop it. Yeah. Like, yeah, come on. Just absolutely nothing. Are you new here? This is our life. This is all we do. And it just, like, what do you want us to do? Not talk about it? Everybody else is talking about it.

You don't want us to talk about it? Guess what? We're going to do what we want to do. Yeah. God damn it. Brof bros. Rob bros. All right, well, I'm going to get into my rosent thorn.

I've got two roses just because one's too good. They're both, they're too good to pass up. And I can't save one for next week because the one is more current. So I want to make sure we say it. My thorn for the week. just tease us on your roses and then go to your thorn. Yeah, because I always end with the rose. My thorn for the week, I think, is just the show that we're going to have to talk about later.

It literally, I had an actual thorn, but watching this episode of this show that I'm not going to name until we have to is my thorn. It was a trudge through this week. But my roses are this. I have two roses. I don't need to do a thorn. And we're trying to cheer ourselves up here. so rose day baby my first one is this from a wilson 712 she messes just and said i had the same thought about shepp and the beaic sponsorship so please read this and feel validated steel

there you go i was the only one wasn't the only one my second rose is from youtube and this is from at coffee buzz and we were trying to come up with beetle juice play inspired porn I forgot about that, yeah. Yeah, I'm still thinking of one, but she said beat old juice, B-E-A-T, natural juice. That was good. That was good. So coffee buzz, nice job. Good job, coffee buzzes.

Thank you for your service. Oh, no pun intended. Hey. There's Lauren Bobbitt, whatever her name is, was. Bobert was servicing. That certainly was. I can't get over it. I talked about it with a client today at the gym.

He came in and said, did you see the show? I was like, oh, my God, let's get it. It's just so funny that that video is everywhere. That's it, as it should be, rightfully so. If you don't want it out there, then don't jerk people off in the regional theater. We can see, like, Mitch McConnell go see Beetlejuice. He would, uh, we're not doing this. Don't, don't tee me up.

That'd be fun. He would be drooling watching the stage. They'd be like, sir. With or without the hand job? Oh, you must like it. You're drooling, huh? Anyway, let's get into some shows. Let's just get this one out of the way.

We are in Orange County, or I guess we're actually in Mexico, and I just have to say, after our first full trudge through of OC, next week's the season finale, a lot of people now are finally clamoring for a reboot. We've been looking at the comments, and we've been not on board for this show all season. And it was weird because in the first probably, I want to say like seven episodes worth,

people are like, this show is great, this season's awesome, and I didn't see it, not one time. And now we get to this episode, and this was arguably one of the worst Housewives episodes I think I've seen. It was so fucking bad. I cannot tell you.

Like, sometimes I will, especially, really actually, I realized this before, the only show that I really watch at work, because I don't feel like watching it at home, I've got other things going on, football's on, whatever it might be, is OC. football's on, I got to watch paint dry.

Every other show, I will put on the big screen because I want to enjoy it. I want to, like, be able to pay attention to what's going on. O.C., I throw on my phone at work with the ads on so that I can work in between. I'm working basically through this entire fucking episode. It was painful. It was so fucking bad. There was a moment that I was watching it downstairs. Dev was upstairs working.

And they get down, like, they sit down at dinner. Yeah. And I'm like, all right, it's got to be like three minutes left. So I paused it to check the timing, and I literally said, what the fuck? I did the same thing. I did the exact same time. I'm like, all right, because that's usually what happens. We've seen enough of these episodes.

They sit down for dinner and it like spills over into the next episode. We know what that happens. And I'm like, okay, we've got a couple of minutes left. I can kind of finish this up and then I can go home. No, there's 11 minutes left. What the fuck? Like, what are you going to do in the next 11 minutes? Nothing.

No, nothing happened except more of the same. But it was really funny because after I let out an audible, what the fuck? Dev was upstairs. She goes, what happened? I was like, oh, no, that was just my reaction to having 10 more minutes of this shit. That's the most, I don't even want to say exciting, but it's the most, like, important thing to happen the entire episode was the fact that there was still way more time than I called.

It's just like, it felt like time was going backwards. I swear I looked at my clock, and it was like 4 o'clock, and then I looked 10 minutes later, it was 3.54. It doesn't make any sense. But we start out, and Jen and Taylor are together. Jen's crying, and Taylor's trying to console her, and they call Ryan on the phone. And a really interesting response from Ryan, because Jen tells her what's going on.

Like, they're saying that something's been going on for a year. But, like, he says, they've got nothing. They've got nothing. I'm like, well, that implies that there's something to find, Ryan. To find. You can't say they've got nothing. You're immediately referring to evidence. You sound like an old school, like gang.

It's like, nah, they got nothing on me. You got nothing on me. Like, seriously, though, like, what is that reaction? And we do this all the time whenever cheating allegations pop off. we always try to analyze the other person whoever's being accused of cheating what they do and sometimes you see it and you're like

all right yeah that's definitely some bullshit like you can't even imagine it with him obviously he has his track record but the way that he responds to it he said they've got nothing that's not the right response you say there's no way that I would ever do anything to do to you I would never put you

in that position I would never do this or that whatever instead he immediately turns to their lack of evidence yeah what a dumbass it's just insane But I thought it was funny watching this scene only because you see like she's sitting there upset and if I had to do it like a double take

I was like is she naked because I forgot they're wearing those like manned thing so there's like two men nipples on her I was like what the I was like oh right right right the swimsuits but my thing with this is you know and she's doubting this is obviously raising doubts in her head because these people

won't leave it alone but while she's questioning things and analyze it in her head and she says she wishes her marriage would have worked implying i think that you know she's upset that the the spark went away and she couldn't hang on any longer because let's not forget who is the one that stepped out of the marriage yeah but she says i upheld my end why can't he or he needs to uphold his and that to me is saying like i left my husband for this like you need to not cheat on me it's pretty simple but all i can surmise from this is if you feel this way

then you already know the answer. Like, this ain't it. She absolutely knows the answer. Right? That's like, I don't know. Just her reaction that every time that somebody calls her out, look, warranted or not, they're still bringing up a good point. And her reactions to it all, she's not, like, lashing out at them.

She's not freaking out for even questioning it. She always takes him what they're saying and then has a rebuttal. And the rebuttal is never, he would never do that. to me. It's always, I know about that girl and I know about that girl and I know about his past. And it's like, what the fuck are you doing? I don't really get it. And look, like, I'm not really going to break into like the psychology of staying with somebody in a relationship when you know that they're cheating, especially, you know, later in life and you've got kids and you've got a house and you've got like this whole family values thing and you feel like you might be getting married at some point in time. It just seems like, you know, maybe you'd be better off without them. It seems like you're way too stressed out. Every time you leave the state, the city, whatever, you have to call him to make sure that he's, you know, doing the right thing and he's not cheating on you? Not cheating on you.

Like, you can't be living with that kind of pressure all the time. Like, again, warranted or not, they are bringing up good points. And they really are. And she's not taking it well. And she's also not defending him either. She's on the defense for herself for sticking into a relationship, which everybody knows is bad. Yeah.

It's tough to watch. And that, honestly, I mean, we've talked about this, like, at nauseam, because it's really the only semi-interesting part about this entire season. It is, but we've also gotten to the point now where we're like, look, she's made her bed and her decision. It's time for her to stand in it or lie in it, I guess, leave it alone, everybody else. Like, you keep bringing it up because either you're unhappy with whatever's going on in your life. You're trying to drum up some false drama. She has told you this is her man for the time being.

If you're actually her friend, this is the point where you say, you got to do your thing. We're going to support you. and pick up the pieces if you fall apart. And that's what Emily said last week. Emily said at some point you have to let an adult be an adult. Right. Just leave it alone. Yeah, stop talking about it.

But at the same time, Jen, I think that you are reading the writing on the wall. You just don't want to acknowledge it. But moving on from there, and I have to point this out only because I don't like Tamara at all. But they're going to swim with turtles. So we got turtles two weeks or two episodes. Yeah, this turtle's not as cool. But what was funny to me was that she goes, parasailing turtles, like so. many things we don't get to do in the O.C.

You can do both of those things in the O.C. You can go parasailing and they're sea turtles. Yeah. So of all the things you can highlight are like about being in Mexico, and again, I'm nitpicking because she stinks. But like those are both things you can do in California. I actually know that for a

fact. So boo. But we get two different parties here. We get the turtle swimmers and we get the parasailers. But before we get there, they see masseuses masseurs. Messieurs. No, that can't be it. Masoes?

Massagers. It's masseurs. They see a bunch of massagers on the beach when they're going out. And Vicki or somebody makes a happy ending joke. And I thought that was it. It was just a happy ending joke. Little did I know. Vicky has gotten multiple happy endings at massage parlors.

Yep. She pulled a Robert Kraft out of nowhere. I could have done without knowing that. I don't know. I actually really respected it. I was like, Vicki in this episode, other than her. her weird comment to Jen seeing she's not knowing what an actual happy ending at a massage parlor is though she made it very clear I you know I was entranced by it and I fell

asleep and woke up feeling so good I literally said I like orgasms she did yeah so I'm just I keep thinking back to her at uh Dorinda's manner when she got the sex toys and she's like what am I going to do with this yeah yes you're like she kind of does both things and I really have no idea where where I fall with her she had a good episode so I don't want to drag She had, comparatively, she had the best episode. Everybody had a good episode. The whole fucking thing stunk. Everybody sucks.

Let's keep going. But nothing really happens in those scenes. We get Vicky having like a full-blown panic attack on the parasailing thing and then throwing up off the side of the boat, which actually for me, because like the incessant screaming while she's up there, like at some point you got to settle in. Like you're up there just like chill. But by throwing up, I was like, okay, at least it was real. That's a good point.

Yeah. Have you ever gone parasailing? I have, yeah. Yeah, it's fun. It's a lot of fun. It is definitely not safe. Like, that's the thing. Oh, for sure, not safe.

Like, if you see the boats that you go out on for these things, like the ropes do not look like they're up to code, and the parachutes look arguably similar to that. I love the story the story that Vicky tells about the woman who's rope got cut. And then she ended up on a roof and they couldn't get her down from the room. And I do believe it, but Vicki obviously tends to embellish a lot of stories. I think that was embellish. I imagine she's not still a lot of. up on the roof. No. Oh, maybe. She's still up there? I don't know.

You have a fact check out there. Maybe the F-35 that's flying over the United States can track it down. Yeah. But the next thing, they're all at dinner and this is where the happy ending talk really comes up and she said that this was funny. She's like, the massage is like 40 bucks and then I tip a couple hundred

and you got to lift the leg. I guess that's the tell. Lift the leg. But Shannon brings up Ryan again and the dick pick. And I thought Shannon was going to take a different route, but she says, I thought you and Tamara, like, settled this in Montana when the dick pick was brought up. Yeah.

And Jen's like, yeah, I thought that we did too. And out of left field, Vicky goes, you have five kids and you should have made your marriage work. What the fuck? Vicky has never met Jen before. Not one time. This is the first time. It's like, and I understand when she gets into it a little bit more where she was trying

to come from is like, I left my husband for a total loser. Yeah, but you know that she doesn't have, like, the delicacy to get into a conversation like that. Absolutely not. And also, regardless of your intentions and regardless of your past, you don't know this woman. No. You can't come over the top rope like that and be like, you fucked up everything, Jen. Like, not your place.

You guys aren't close. At the same time, there's just different rules on Housewife shows. You can do whatever the fuck you want and say whatever the hell you want to anybody. Especially on this show. They just grasp its straws most of the time. But Gina defends Jam, which was nice to see. She jumps in and she's like, Vicki, like, you do not know this woman. You can't come on this trip out of nowhere and just start saying things.

like that. But that's when she says, I left my husband for a loser. I just don't want her to do the same thing. But again, it's already been done. So you're just throwing salt on the wound, really. Nothing's going to come of this. But we get to the next day. And they're all going shopping in Tulum, I believe. And, oh, sorry, you can't relieve out the fact that they're going to a shaman, your favorite thing in the world. We got half the group going to a shaman. Half the group is going shopping in Tulum. Do you know what my problem with the shaman is? Oh, no, what? I finally put my thumb on it. Okay, cool.

It's not even the shaman. What's the problem? Oh, I think, well, wait. Wait, wait. Can I guess? Yeah. Okay. I think that your problem with the shaman, like you said, you gave me a little tip,

and I'm on the right track, I think. The people that go, they have these intentions, they say these peace, love, happiness, things at the end. They're all zen or whatever, and then five minutes later, everyone is back to their normal behavior. They're all phony as fuck. There we go. They're all so fucking phony.

Like, that is the thing. I get it. Shaman's are out there. They're going to do whatever they're going to do. do. If you believe in that and you want to do it, I still think sound baths are fucking stupid. Do not get it twisted. Shaman's, at least it's a person that, like,

is, you know, trying it, and that's their lifestyle, and they're kind of passing it on to you to try to find some peace and happiness or whatever the hell they're doing. Not my vibe, but I get it. I understand it. If you are the fakesest fucking person in the world, Tamara, you bitch, you can't

fucking show up at a fucking shaman and say, I just really want to, you know, have good relationships with my friends and really be trustworthy and respectful towards people and then 20 minutes later go back to your same fucking bullshit. I agree with that. You suck. You are so bad. And the fucking worst part about this entire fucking show,

I'm running off right now. You bring back a fucking failed cast member and that person immediately becomes the middle of the fucking show. The show is so bad. Get at the fuck off TV. It's so dumb. She sucks. She should not be a cast member of any.

Go do the traitors. You know, go do the traitors. Go do the traitors. Go do Ultimate Girls trip, I won't watch because I do not care about you. You stink. It's nice being on this side of a rant. It's so fucking annoying. Like, I just don't get it. This show is so fucking bad. I'm just... And look, like, we have been doing this for a little

over a year. There are some bad parts of seasons and they're a little boring and this and that and whatever. I never thought that it would be this bad. Yeah. This show is so goddamn bad. And all you fucking idiots out there that we're saying for like 7-10 episodes, wow, this is really good. It's so refreshing. It's not refreshing. It stinks.

It's so bad. You should be re-evaluated as a TV watcher because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about this is the worst show on Bravo get it the fuck off the screen do you feel better yeah wow I that's steal rant out of shooter

I love that oh I like being on this side of it is I hate this fucking show it needs to end and should not come back this feels good though I feel like this is what you get to do sit here like laugh at a good time great wow I need to stop ranting But before we get to the bus ride to Tulum or whatever,

I have to point out that Shannon did not brush her teeth for five days. She used a towel. For five days. Disgusting. It's so fucking gross. I audibly went, ugh. And she calls for a toothbrush on the last day? No, she doesn't. Tamara does.

Oh, I thought the tailor was on the phone, too. No, Tamara picks up the phone and calls the front desk. Finally. This shows you how much I was paying attention. What do you mean that you don't know where to find one? Any hotel. You can go to a red roof in or a motel 6. Trust me.

Been to a mall and you can get a toothbrush. She said she felt like she was in Walt Disney World because of all the tram cars. Watch the tram car, please. I guarantee you that every hotel resort, just because you're in a different building, there's still a shop in the bottom. Where do you think all the food comes from? You press zero on the phone. And they will answer and go front desk or concierge.

and you say, toothbrush, please. They go, no problem, and they drop it to you. Do you want toothpaste on it? Do you want it pre-wet for you? Yeah, we'll do whatever you want. Whatever. Stop using our towels. Yeah, please stop wiping your grubby teeth on our towels, you slob. Disgusting.

But on the bus, and look, we've gone after Heather a little bit this season for multiple reasons. But the amount of shit she was getting on this trip has changed my opinion significantly about the dynamic of this group. because they're on the bus, and it's brought up that Heather has recently re-followed Emily. Okay? And I guess Heather's defense of this, which I don't fully buy, but she said when she left the friend group, she had FOMO, so she unfollowed people. I think that she left the show or the friend group, and when she did, she just unfollowed them because she doesn't like them because none of these people are actually friends. Absolutely. But in this moment, when you get refollowed, to bring it up, like, it's a negative thing.

like, this is a positive. I know that you have to, like, get past the fact that she unfollowed you and you can like, like, say a joke about it, but it turns into something that is way too big of a deal because then she's like, she puts herself on this pedestal and now it's like, oh, they follow me, but I don't follow her. I was like, really? It's not that deep, man. It's so dumb.

You're reaching so far to try to paint this picture of a pretentious asshole. And look, is she a little pretentious? Yes. Is she a little bit, like, she thinks she's a little bit better than people? Yeah, but not to the level that this group puts it at. And then I finally figured it out because when Taylor and her are talking later and Taylor mentions the money thing, this group is just jealous. They are jealous of the wealth that Heather Dubrow has.

And now it gets you rethinking why Heather didn't tell them all about her selling her house. Exactly. And then I'm like, you know what? Yeah. And like we didn't have a problem with that to begin with. We're like, it's nobody's business anyway. But this makes even more sense because that that right there proves that she's not trying to be pretentious because she actively avoided telling the group about her $50 million

sale because she knew they would spin it into all she talks about is how much money she has because they don't have as much as her. That's the only thing I can think of. But Tamara like stirs the pot. Everyone on the bus keeps pushing it to a point where it's honestly uncomfortable and Heather just goes, I want to go home and gets off the bus and starts crying. And like it's just mean girl behavior. It's like the five of them start like jawing at each other and giggling at her expense. And to her credit, she hasn't said shit. She really hasn't done a goddamn thing, but sit in the back of the bus with a champagne flute, trying to, like, just get through the goddamn trip. And they just can't help themselves. They got to poke at her because Tamara leads

the charge. And Emily, who I liked for a long time, and now it's wearing thin. I'm like, dude, you're not just the snuff-lob biggest thing. Yeah, totally rude. Can Heather get better at taking a joke? Yeah, totally. You guys aren't joking when you say this shit to her. You're hiding behind. that and you know that's my least favorite thing i was joking you gotta drop the act man like it's fucking exhausting but it's just so tough to watch and honestly like i feel the same way i thought that early on i liked emily she seemed genuine she seemed okay and then she's kind of she's either just not doing anything at all or she's doing this shit and it's like it doesn't further the show it doesn't make it more entertaining it's just boring and it does get to the

point where we talk about it all the time like are people just putting on a front for the show are people doing this or that or whatever what it comes down to for all of this with heather specifically is that they are all jealous that's it and this is that's just who they are as people this has nothing to do with the show this has nothing to do with whether or not they're actually friends they are around for an extended period of time they get to see what heather does and how much money she makes and how successful she is and how the life that she gets to live and they are jealous of that yeah they hate it so they feel like they can use the show i guess as the guise to kind of poke at her

and prod at her. And they garner support for it. And then you get to do the fake-ass apology with a fucking shaman the next day and act like, hey, we're going to be friends again. I really want to be genuine with you. It's like, no. And that's why I'm really happy that Heather didn't go to the goddamn shaman. Yeah, I am too. Because that's what would have happened. It would. I'm so sorry for what I said to you on the bus earlier.

You're not. It's just not something that I would normally say and I was just coming from a weak point. And I really want to push a good influence into the world as I move forward. And then you're going to go back to the hotel and give her the same shit. Yep. 100%. A bunch of losers. these people. Oh, man, you used it already.

I was saving it. What? I was going to, when they bring up the loser thing, I was going to just confirm, like, yeah, the problem with this cast, they're all fucking losers. Yeah, they are.

Like, that's it. And like, when whoever said it, whether it was Heather or Tamara, I firmly believe it was Tamara because that is Tamara to a T. Yeah. No pun intended. You're all losers.

All of you. That's the problem with the show. That's why it's not fun. You're not interesting. You don't bring anything to the table. You are all losers. L-7 weenies. Yeah, I love that.

Weenie Hut Jr. Weenie Hut Jr. Ween-Hut Jr. Is there friends with other people in Brought? Like, is she friends with the Beverly Hills cast? I think, I don't know. Actually, I don't want to put that out there. If she actually is genuinely friends with people in, say, Beverly Hills,

she can go to Beverly Hills. I'm fine with that. She said at the end, I don't even want to come back to the show. She did. She can go and go somewhere else. I'm actually okay with her. I am too now. Because the moments, the only moments that I can remember in the last like five to

six weeks that I actually enjoyed were with Heather and her husband. Yeah, and she might, oh, I totally agree with that. That was the only thing that I really enjoyed in, like, selling of her house. At the time, I think I questioned it and said she's just not there and she's away, and now I understand why she's away. If she leaves the show, go somewhere else,

and then what you do is you tie everybody from OC up to a parisail and just drive off in the Pacific. Just take them all out there. And that's how the show ends. That's the series finale is then. That is the series finale. I want With Vicky screaming as they go.

Yeah, that's a good camera, or sorry, curtain call for them. But the only thing I need to talk about with the shaman scene is Shaman Charlie might be my favorite shaman yet. Because he reminds me. You say that every time we see a shaman. Here's why, though. And like, it updates because this dude reminds me wholeheartedly of Tommy Chong from Cheech and Chong. Yeah. Like, just his vibe, man.

And he's like, he's like, he wasn't as fake spiritual. He's just like, tell me what you want. No, no, he did seem real. He wasn't too eccentric. No, I think that was my problem. Now, I'm thinking back to Miami when they had that shaman, and he was just, like, all over the place and fucking dancing and doing, like, fire dances.

Yeah, no, this guy was straightforward, and he's like... This guy seems like he didn't even realize there was cameras there because he had some mushroom tea, like, a couple hours before. And this is where he is. He's had three glasses of ayahuasca, and he's on cloud nine. We don't know where he is, actually. But it's worth noting because you brought it up already, but... Tamara says that she wants a deeper relationship with Jen, and her biggest, her intention is that she wants trust and to be trusted.

But to be trusted, you must be trustworthy, Tamara, which you are never, ever trustworthy. You always go behind people's back and stir shit up and then lie about it. Again, I'll bring it up every time we make this point because it's poignant. You lied on one of our TikToks. You commented on a TikTok that we posted and lied. so you are not trustworthy so no you don't deserve people's trust because you don't give it but in the juxtapose scene when they're shopping this is when taylor thank god somebody goes to heather's aid here and sits down next to her and this is where also with heather i'm like yeah you know you're not perfect because we get that clip of the scene because heather tries to defend it she's like oh am i going to confide in taylor because oh i might call her cute again it's like that's not what happened you did belittle the movie yeah and they cuts to the scene you see and she's like oh it's so cute and i'm I was like, yeah, that was, that was demeaning. So you can't be fully self-righteous, but at the same time, I'm glad Taylor went over there.

I'm glad they started to talk about it. And Taylor's the one that points out, like, yeah, they're all insecure because of your money. That's all it's about. And Heather's like, I'm not apologizing for that. And Taylor's like, you don't have to. It's just that's their problem with you. And I firmly agreed with that. And in that moment, my entire perspective of Heather changed for the whole season almost.

Yeah, I would agree with that. And Taylor was really just the shoulder to cry out. Taylor's been great this season. She's fine. She doesn't need to be on, like, a housewave show. Like, she doesn't need to be a full-time housewife, I don't think. She's just not interesting. No, but she's done...

She was there for moral support, and, you know, somebody has to be there. Put it this way. Compared to the Taylor, we saw an Ultimate Girl's Trip, I like this Taylor much better. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. But we... Ultimate Girl's Trip is just such a whirlwind. Yeah, it is.

I don't really fault them for it. I mean, do I like the show for the most part? No. No, but... No, you don't. I don't mind them, but... Yeah, it's not their fault. We're so close, dude, let's just finish.

No. So we get to dinner, and Shannon, I don't know what the fuck that was. Like, it's a hammock. It's a big hammock. And you don't have to walk on it. And she has a full-blown meltdown when she's going towards this rope thing. And it's like, dude, like the waiter approaches her. And she's like, get away!

Get away from me! Like, walk on the wood. You're standing on a platform. Walk around where everybody else went. I don't know why is that big of a deal. But the full. food look gorgeous. I'll always point that out. The chef comes out and talks to the table, and this is where they go over intentions because they bring up the shaman thing. And

for what it's worth, Emily's like, you know what, I'm done with the Ryan thing. Ryan doesn't define you, Jen, I want to get to know you because, and she makes a really good point. We don't really know Jen. We, the audience don't really know Jen because everything has been either Ryan or Tamara centric regarding her. As far as like, we got a little bit. She's been on the defense of the entire season. I know, which is annoying. But we got a little bit early on. It's actually really funny if we think about it because she started by trying to air out all of her dirty laundry. I know.

And then it still used to get us. And it ended up being defensive for the next 15 fucking episodes. And that's the thing. That's so funny. We got a little bit out of her early on about like fostering and stuff like that, which was really interesting. And then since then all it's been is Ryan and Tamara, Ryan and Tamara. But the new Bimo, V.I. Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks.

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I'm finally happy now and I'm looking for love. want forever love. And somebody asked her, do you want to marry your boyfriend? She's, I could definitely see myself marrying him. I'm not there yet. And for Heather, she says, you know, that makes me happy and said it. I'm happy that you're not 100% and you're trying to figure it out. You're taking your time, like good for you. For whatever reason, Tamara makes a really bad face at this and then takes it upon herself to use this, like, weaponize this against Heather. And this is where you can tell that Tamara's just doing the most to overproduce. She's trying to get the most out of the season in the absolute worst way, because then she brings up the fact, well, you said

that Shannon wasn't all in in Montana, and then it clips to the scene. It's like, all she said was like, yeah, I don't know if she's like 100% in yet. Like, that's not a negative thing. She just said nothing negative. All she said was, as she goes on to explain, all I'm implying is that they're figuring it out. What's wrong with that? And her tone from the Montana clip is 100% aligned with.

They're figuring it out. She's not 100% yet. So this is just them on like a witch hunt to try to take down Heather. And I think Tamara's the most jealous of her of all of them. She has to be. I mean, just she, any low-hanging fruit that she can go after, she's been going after this entire season. And now that Heather's the one who's in the house of pain, if you will,

she's just going after her. And it's just, it's so annoying to watch because you know what's coming too. And that was around the time that I looked again. How much time is left in this? Like, are we still fucking doing this? It's 20 minutes. I know what she's going to do And as soon as she made the face

I'm like, oh God, don't put this back on Heather I thought she was either going to put it on Heather Or try to put something else on Jen And I'm like, please just shut the fuck up Just don't say anything like Because that's what timer does She has two targets And she will just spend time

Either taking them down behind the scenes And telling people like Vicky Hey, you're going to question Jen's marriage Or you're going to question Jen's relationship with Ryan At dinner tonight And Vicki says, yeah, okay, sure, I'll do that Yeah, whatever That's a good Vicky impression

and then Tamara turns around and she starts going after Heather and it's like she's trying to use this like smoke and mirror tactic and then she's also trying to bring in like stupid drama just like shut up just fucking move on yeah they can't focus on one thing that's like I think that's our biggest pet peeve about all these shows is and that's again and not even to bring the new Vroni into this they're not doing that in there like things get squashed and then they go on and like maybe it hasn't been on long enough and they haven't had time to go back to previous fights but this group cannot seem to be move on from fucking anything. No, but it's forced by Tamara and Shannon. And the other thing that's been on topic all season is... I don't think it's forced by Shannon. I think that Shannon has no fucking idea what's going on at any time. I don't think she does either. And it's actually, again, we can lump that into what I said.

It could be that. It could be a personality thing. I think it's a lot going on there. But I do think that Shannon is part of the problem because she brings up again, Heather referring to Emily talking shit in the room. And Heather's like, I didn't fucking see. say Emily, I said Tamara. And then that's confirmed.

Gina's like, yeah, I said this a while ago. It was, I think it might have been Tamara. So this whole thing that they've built the platform on that Heather sucks has been this, that she was talking shit about Shannon to Emily and then wouldn't tell Emily what Shannon said. But none of that ever actually happened. And instead of people being like, oh, you know what, sorry, they change tactics. And Tamara's like, yeah, well, you call them all fucking losers. and Heather's like, no, I didn't.

You did. And Tamara was like, no, I said it in Jess, because I walked up to the table, and I saw you sitting with all of them. I knew that you called them losers. So I walked up the table, and I said, oh, you're sitting with all these fucking losers? What do you believe?

You, Shooter Magooder. What do you believe happen? Tamara, all these people. Heather said that about two people that she said it about and not the rest of the group. But it is nice actually kind of comforting to know that Tamara is an asshole in real life, too. Because there were no cameras when she was talking about Bravo con.

And she walked up to the table. and said that like you're just a real piece of shit it's just really funny and then it's weird because you know gina is on this kick that she's like team heather pro heather she's always got heather's back i haven't really seen that this season no at all but then to me it just it proves my point because you see gina once again we're grasping at straws here she's like i can't believe you didn't tell me that tamer called me a loser it's like really dude like that's the level of petty that we're getting to you're now trying to get upset with he you're just looking for reasons to get upset with like that apparently tamer said it in jest anyway so if that is the case why would she tell you

maybe also she wasn't trying to like go behind tamara's back just for the sole purpose of not being a snitch which is also a thing so for her to get like you know what i'm done i've been nothing but her friend i've been trying so hard and of course you got emily there to just kind of feed into it like yeah i know i feel so bad for you like you've been there for her and she never gives it in return like it's just pile on heather and it's not good tv guys, it's terrible. And that's why I wrote right here in all caps, they are fucking losers. They are. I don't even, like, there's not even much more to say. I don't care. The stupid superiority complex, they claim that Heather has. I don't think that's a thing. I think that Heather does think she's slightly better than other people, but I don't think it goes to the level that they claim it does.

No. And you get the stupid post in her thing with the Trace Amiga's out and about and Emily and Gina sitting there venting about Heather. And it's just, that's what the whole episode is. But the last thing. this is it and then we're moving on tamro says inner confessional when heather's up against the wall she will say anything and that to me was so hypocritical like that is literally your mo that is you have an entire podcast built on that premise so for you to say that about anybody else even if it's true is the most pot calling the kettle black glass house bullshit i think i've ever heard well said one more episode dude one more episode and then 16 reunion episodes real bad show oh god don't say that he he what's up bros shooter here to talk to you guys about rocket money look if you're anything like me you're going to be looking through your bank

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It doesn't mean you have to. Welcome back, everybody who skipped. Welcome back. But we start out. We're back at the Trixie Motel, and the whole group gets here. The first thing that Lisa says, two tricks. is I lost my ring. It was 60 G's.

We got it. We got it. See Monica's reaction. We got, yeah, every time. Like, oh, my God. Yeah, she's like, oh, no. And you were there. You were helping her find it.

That wasn't real. That was her doing that because she's sick of hearing. You think she was doing it sarcastic? Yeah, no, 100%. Oh, I thought it was like she was playing it up. No, no, no, no. She showed up. No, dude, she was doing that.

If you look at her on the bus on last week's episode, she's making faces. She's so fed up with the ring bullshit that she is done with hearing about it. And I am too, but they walk in and I don't know what kind of welcome they thought they were going to get. But Whitney and Angie walk out, like, they're the life of the party. Like, they, hey, surprise, like, they were going to be stoked that Angie was there. And they're met with crickets, like, except for Lisa, it was like, oh, my God, you guys. I don't think either of them thought that they'd be stoked that Angie was there? I don't know.

Do it the way I stoked that Angie's there? No. No, but, like, I think Angie's delusion. I do think that she thought this was a good move on her part. And look, I get it. You're part of the cast. You've got to be there. Meredith, in light of the fresh powder, fresh start stuff that Heather did last week or two weeks ago, whatever.

You should have just invited her and avoided this shit. But for the show, it made for a great fucking episode. But the best part is we get a quick confessional of Mary, who's Angie? Yeah. Who the hell's Angie? I really don't think she knows her angios. And her little quips in this, I actually could have done without what she did

at the end of the episode with Whitney. Oh, I like that. But what my ideal Mary Cosby for this show is just a little quips. I still can't like it over her name, dude. It's just such a funny name, I know. But you have to say the full name. Mary Cosby.

And every little thing that she says, like the one-liners are just perfect. They're always so spot on. There's never too much of her, never too little of her, at least so far. I just want her to stay in that realm because it's just so fun. To give you some confidence when she was on the show prior,

that is her MO. That's kind of how she always is. She'll drop in a one-liner and then she's kind of out of the picture. Like she's not the mainstay. But Meredith and Heather are discussing the fact that Angie's there. And anytime I hear this defense, Meredith goes, there's so many things going on in the world in reference to I'm not going to worry about Angie being here

because there's so many bigger problems. Anytime I hear that, I immediately go, oh, she's dealing with something. Something's going on behind. You think so? Yeah, that's what I think. I think that's a quick deflection to not. I think it's a deflection because she doesn't want to talk about.

I think that's obviously true too, but I think there's more going on here personally. I don't know for sure, but you might be right. When they start to dig into it, she just says, Meredith says her interactions have, like, been unpleasant with Angie in the past, and it goes back to some of the scenes that they've had together. And yeah, it hasn't been totally pleasant, but I thought it was interesting because the one scene, Meredith's talking to her, Meredith seems upset.

Angie seems like she's actually taking what Meredith's saying in stride. She's like, yeah, yeah. Like, it didn't seem like there was contention on Angie's side. It seemed more like a Meredith thing. Yeah. But the more you get into it, I think that it's both sides a little bit. But Heather says it's an act of war.

And I was like, whoa, I don't think it's that deep. It's a really big jump. I think Heather said that. Maybe someone else said that. But yeah, act of war by coming on this trip. Like, it's not that deep. She's a full-time castmate on the show that pays you to do what you're doing. Yeah, they pay her to do what she's doing.

But yes, I get what you're saying. But out by the pool, we get a quick little Mary cut, and she's just like by her. Oh, no, that's not true. But we get Mary Whitney and Angie out by the pool. And this was hysterical because Angie genuinely just like, come sit with us. And Mary's like, just please stop talking to me like that. Like I stop it. Well, I noticed like, did you watch what subtitles on?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Because when, I think it was when Lisa first came out, they did sing-songy when Lisa was talking, when she was saying, hey. And then they kind of did the same thing. They said, I don't think it wasn't sing-songy, but I think it was like pleasant tone or something weird like that from Angie. And I love that immediately Mary's like, no, don't talk to me like that. Don't say that. I'm okay over here.

Yeah. I don't need to come over and join you guys. Leave me alone. Awesome. But I love Mary because she goes, it feels kind of childish to come early. Like, she immediately, that's why she immediately, that's why. she's great for the shows because she will ask the questions that we want asked.

We need to address it. We know why they went early. It's so that Whitney could sneak in Angie. 100%. But it's just, I like that she just immediately gets, we don't have to do the song and dance. We just get down to it immediately. It just feels childish to come early. And Angie goes on to defend herself and Mary goes, I wasn't talking to you.

Firm. Like, shut up. I'm talking to Whitney. You shut up. But everyone else comes out to the pool and we get a gift bag exchange. and Angie seems to get defensive about the fact that there was no gift bag or t-shirt for her. I understand her getting defensive because Meredith literally doesn't acknowledge that she's there, which is actually kind of funny. And she didn't invite her.

Right. But the fact that in that moment as the host, like you just got to bite the bullet, I think. And at the very least. There's nothing you can do about it. Right. So just look at her. Look at her direction and say, sorry, you, and that's a great dig. Sorry, you weren't invited, so I don't have anything for you.

Yep. Like, that's a good dig. Instead of just, like, walking by and, like, trying your hardest not to make eye contact. But Angie's response to it, like, I guess Meredith does eventually say that, like, towards the end, but I think it would have serviced or better to say it, like, early on instead of the awkward moments. But when she does finally say, like, sorry, I don't have anything for you, Angie gets, like, indignant. She's like, well, thank you for acknowledging that I wasn't invited. It's like, whoa, dude, you weren't invited. Like, you weren't invited. Like, you. You are here against her will, and thank God for Monica going. You were going to get a gift bag or something that you were invited to? Like, why would she have an extra one just in case, you know, somebody else shows up? But then she's like, I bet it's all just like re-gifted shit from her. It's like, it doesn't matter, like what it is. It's her gift bag on her trip. Angie's the fucking loser.

I just, I don't need her. We said this last year, too. We did. I can't believe she got the full time. I don't get it. I know you didn't want to put Mary in or maybe Mary didn't want to commit to a full-time that kind of makes more sense but she's on a trip

you know what I mean like I think they've recognized like we need Mary yeah that she's like smaller capacity it's almost like a Marisol situation yeah like we're not going to go over

to Mary's house and do a full day with her I think we might we'll get that one little scene with her talking to her son about you know while she was on the phone with Don Perignon 03

um yeah I just Angie's not doing it for me at all she didn't do it for me last year she's just not good she's not good everything seems played up Everything seems like she wrote it down and she's like trying to recite lines, which I hate. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. Yeah.

But thank God for Monica being there because she literally goes, ew. Monica's like reactions to things are actually really funny. And I forgot that she was even friends with Angie. I did too. I completely forgot. I was like I don't really care because this far into the season of three episodes, I don't really care where Monica came from at this point because she's here. Yeah, she's here. She's here.

I don't care what her connections are. She's going to make friends with people, this, that, and whatever. It seems like she's been here for three seasons. That's the funny thing. She slid right in. I think people are going to go after her at some point in time, and I think she can hold her own. I think she'll be fine. I think she's going to be really good for TV because she brings such a weird dynamic to this

group. Because honestly, if we think about it, if we dropped Mary and Monica, I'd be bored. Yeah, I would too. I mean, Heather can only do so much. She, look, we talked about it on the first episode. This is going to be a roller coaster of a season for her eyes. We're going to go up and down and up and down. But so far, so good.

We have to do a heat check for Heather every week. I like that. How are we feeling? Where are we feeling? I'm a scale one to ten. Okay. I'm at like a six five. I was going to say six five.

Wow. Great. Mine's think alike. I'm at like a six five. And also granted, she's working up from a hard zero. Oh, yeah. So six five is a big. She got herself up to like the seven range.

And last week kind of dropped down to about a three and a half four. Yep. And then she's back up to six five. And look, I mean, she had to vomit in a bag at the end, but she got there. Back out of the half point. Whatever. That's the half the point. But.

We get a scene where Angie, Lisa, and Whitney are in their room talking. And we've already heard, like, when they're filming in other rooms, like, these walls are thin. You can hear everything. But what I love about this... That's the Crappy Lake Motel? It's funny. Somebody else said that, I think, like in the comments on some other page. But the funny thing to me, 95% of housewives in this moment would sit there with, like, a cup on the wall listening to the shit being talked.

No, no. Monica hears her name and she kicks that fucking door and goes, I heard my name because these walls are thin as fuck. What are you guys talking about? And she's, that, that's good stuff. It's good shit. That's good stuff right there. I like that. But Angie gets defensive and she's like, you're my friend. Like, you need to defend me. And it's like,

not when your behavior is indefensible. You're on someone else's trip. You came uninvited and you're being a dick to the host. If you're going to be the person that comes on this trip, it's not coming to prove a point that you want to be mad. It's coming to prove a point like, hey, Meredith, this is why I wanted to get invited because I want to get closer to the group.

You're taking a really weird tactic by being the aggressor instead of just like fading off into the background. Like, know your role here. You weren't invited. Be quiet and enjoy the trip. I don't think she's going to get over the fact

that she's been slighted. No, she's not at all. Like the vibe that you get from Angie is she never deserves to be slighted. How dare you slight me in any way, shape, or form? And she wasn't invited on the trip And she showed up anyway And it's like you can make jokes about it

Like there's so many different ways You can go about it You might be able to diffuse the situation If you use a little humor Just do anything Back a couple of jokes at Meredith's expense Maybe you get Meredith pissed off But who cares

She can't kick you off the trip It's just Do anything else but what you're doing Whatever it's so hard to do what she's doing I know It's so much easier to make it funny It takes more effort to be this much of an asshole On a trip you're not invited on

Than just to do anything else You know how to be exhausting. I'm exhausted watching or try. But we go on the shopping trip for friends. This has to happen across the board. Yeah, no. We're going to have to do this. Should we do this for an episode?

I'll dress you and you dress me. Yeah, we'll do that. I like that. We'll do that. We'll do that. We'll go to, like, a consignment store. We'll try to get, yeah, we'll go to a consignment store. Maybe Salvo.

Yeah. Maybe we'll do that. We'll do it for a live show. Maybe that would be fun. Oh, I like that. That's a good idea. It would be a good time. Yeah.

If we only had a place to go do a live show soon. I haven't done one in a while, getting a little itch. I know, maybe like the West Coast or something. West Coast could probably scratch it. I don't know. I got that sand out there. It's a little more rocky than the East Coast. Yeah, that's okay, but like in L.A.

Could be. I don't know. Maybe you should tune into our live, I guess, last night. You're listening to this now. So we can, yeah, there's your hint. Last night. Yeah, last night. Because this is going to.

Check it out. Check it out. But they're shopping for friends. And Meredith is just like this is where she could do herself. so many favors by being the cool host here and not letting Angie get under her skin. But she is visibly upset the entire time. And that is giving Angie ammo and making her feel almost vindicated by this whole thing. Like, I'm here.

I'm trying. It's like you're here uninvited, but whatever. The groups that are going together, Monica and Mary could have a camera on them for a full episode, I think, and just watch their interactions because, like, it's such a funny dynamic. You've got Mary, who is Mary Cosby. and then you've got Monica who's, you know, a little bit louder. She's going to say kind of whatever she wants to say and not how Mary does, but Monica is a little more.

I think Monica picks up a vibe a little quicker. She seems to read the room better than. She could tell right away, and it's got to be hard to read Mary too. Although I feel like Mary's kind of black and white. She knew right away. I can't read her. You can't? Not really.

I think you kind of, you do what Monica did. Like Monica asked her if she liked this or like that, and Mary gives one word answers. And she's like, okay, cool. That was so funny. because she picks up and said, oh, like, any other person would be like, oh, not really. She's like, oh, do you like this? She's like, no. Yeah.

No. Just immediately no. And then she put it right back on the wreck. She didn't ask for an elaboration. She goes, okay. So I feel like she kind of, she caught that a little bit easier than, obviously, Whitney can't catch anything. The rest of them, like, would never be able to pick it up or they just push their own agenda. Monica, obviously, she's still new, so she's not doing anything.

But when she was with Mary, I thought that was, like you said, it's a really funny scene. I thought it was great. It kind of works. And I feel like Mary even kind of respects Monica. little bit after that scene, which is got to be tough to come by. It's got to be really difficult. And you see Meredith dress up, Lisa, I don't know. Clearly, as

Lisa says, clearly Meredith hates me because what the fuck. And, like, I don't, I didn't, it looked like she was going to Coachella or something like that. Like, it was... Burning Man. R.I.P. Burning Man, yeah. There are Firefest. Well, Firefest, too, yeah. Oh, there is. Oh, there is. There's a rumor about, I don't know if it's true or not, but

allegedly. But, uh, Whitney looks insane. She looks like She's going to a tea party in a laboratory. Whitney would have dressed herself that way. And then Angie, like, this is, this was, like, painful. Like, I felt awkward and uncomfortable. Like, she's there. She's shopping for herself.

Nobody is giving her the time of day. And she's like, oh, like, I'm a Greek goddess, everybody. Look at me. Look at me. And it's like, again, don't, first of all, Heather goes, Angie? Like, who's, like, she's playing into it now, too. But if you are, I'm going to keep saying it. And I know it's getting annoying.

but if you are the person that wasn't invited on the trip, stop making yourself the center of attention. Don't walk out of the room and demand the room because it's a really shitty look. Instead, it's all ego too. Yeah, it's totally ego driven. It's full ego. Like any normal person with any sort of, I guess, humility would be able to walk into that situation and say, all right, I wasn't invited. I'm not going to make too many waves here, but obviously I'm going to check into certain conversations. I'm going to be this and that and whatever.

I don't know if it's because she feels like she's, I think it's a combination of her feelings, slighted and pushing an agenda and also this is just her personality. I think that's... I mean, nobody walks down. It's like, oh, I'm a Greek goddess. Like, I've heard her say that 15 times. She's been on the show for a season and a half. And it's like, we get it. We understand. Move on.

We're good. I don't really care for whatever the fuck you're trying to do right now. No, just stop. It's just painful to watch. It's really painful. It's not good. Any other situations who I would have felt bad. I would have been like, that sucks. She wasn't invited on the trip. Now she has to shop alone. Nobody cares what she's wearing. Everybody's making jokes. She could play that

hand so easily. Any other person, even if I don't like the person, mine is probably Tamara, Tamara, I'd be like, all right, you get what you deserve. Someone else, I'd be like, yeah, that kind of sucks. That's really awkward. But with her, I'm like, I don't care. I do not care. I do not care what you're doing. You're burying yourself. Yeah, get the camera off of her. Go back to Mary and Monica. Please do. Please do. But we find out that we're going to Carrie Grant's house, who, you know, massive movie star from back in the day, North by Northwest. What else was, notorious, I believe, is one of his. Like, fucking superstar

back when Hollywood had, like, actual celebrities, not when everybody's a celebrity now, but... We're celebs, pal. That's my point. Yeah, right? That's, like, that's a scathing indictment of what being famous means, is that you and I could argue that we're, like, Z-list.

I don't even want to say celebrities, because I look, I don't like playing this card. You do. I do not. But... Z? I don't know. Why don't... You are audience... Tell us what letter, quote-unquote, celebrity we are, and please keep it low to avoid this guy. Yeah, do it in the lower 13.

That would probably be. But the lower 13, I don't think I've ever heard that referred in the alphabet, the lower 13. I don't, I just made it up. No, it sounds smart. I know, I know, I get it. I was trying to give you credit. Yeah, bro, pros, math. But once we find this out, Lisa is so upset.

She's like, I'm wearing this ridiculous. outfit to go to Carrie Grant's house and it's a five-star restaurant and I look like an idiot. I had my shopper in Milan send me a bunch of things from over there and I don't even have my $60,000 ring to show things off there. Shut up. This is what

I do not understand is if I was this rich, we were this rich I would not give a fuck. No, we did a plan thing where we had to dress each other and it was funny and goofy and we were going to a five-star restaurant. That's fun. That's hilarious. If you have that kind of money, we can be like

Fuck everybody here. It's like, I know this is a five-star restaurant. I know this is Carrie Grant's estate. I do not care. This is how much I give a shit because I have so much money, you will not turn me away. That is fuck you money, like you said. So I think it's a bigger place. Totally.

Especially, especially look around the table, dude. Like, everyone looks like a moron. Yeah. So no one there at the restaurant is going, oh, these women think they're hip. They're going, oh, this is a bit. Like, this is a thing. It's either a bachelorette party or, like, there's something going. on here where these women dressed funny.

No one's judging Lisa in that moment except for Lisa herself. And it's just I like Lisa Barlow a lot. I think she's great to. This episode was a little tougher. It is because she, and then while they're sitting at the dinner table, this was brutal. This was actually brutal. Like, tell me

something interesting about your life. And that obviously means like when we've heard crazy stories in the past from other housewife shows Meredith starts it out with what I don't even, I didn't even write it down because it wasn't even worth talking about. What did she say? oh, I used to vacation in Palm Springs with my grandparents.

Like, okay. Fun. Ew. Then Mary goes, I had an African crane, but that wasn't even her interesting fact. Boo. I just came out of nowhere. I actually liked the African crane,

and that was funny to me. And she said it was weird. It would make me stare at him all day. In my head, I have this image of, like, her, like, wide-eyed, like, that one picture of her when she finds out they don't have Dom Paranyan. Her just staring at a bird like that for an hour. Yep.

Like without blinking. That's exactly what I thought of too. So I did like that, but we keep going through things. And Angie goes, people think that I'm a hard ass, but I'm actually super sensitive. Nobody thinks you're tough. Not one person at this table thinks you're a hard ass. You are the person they think you are. I think you're an asshole.

Which you are. It's not a hard ass. No. It's not a tough guy. No, you aren't that, you ain't that guy, pal. You're not that guy. but Lisa says I got my second piercing I'm so bad

and the fact that Monica followed up this with what she said because Lisa goes I'm so bad because I got a second piercing Monica goes you guys are boring as shit I fucked my brother-in-law for 18 months Mike drop. Yep. That is an interesting story.

That's the way to do it. Yeah especially when Lisa's saying she's bad because she got two piercings. No, no. She got dicked down by her brother-in-law for 18 months and is sharing it with the table. That is what this game is about. Heather and Angie's interesting fact is that they went to high school together.

Shut up. Stop it. You've seen this. All of you have seen this. Heather's was that she's into birds now. That's how the African crane came up. I just don't understand any of it. I don't either.

That being said, great. It was a great episode overall. But they get into, and of course Whitney's doing this. And I firmly believe that Whitney tries to come up with ways to stir the pot and does a very very bad job of translating that into an organic response. Yeah. Because she's like, let's play warm and fuzzy, cold and prickly. And it's like, oh, this should go well.

What's warm and fuzzy? Oh, that's something you like about the person next to you. What's cold and prickly? It's something you don't like. There's no way this is going to go south. By the way, Lisa. You got to support it. Oh, it worked out really well for us.

But like, you're concerned about the outfits. You should be concerned about the party at the table because somebody's going to ruin everybody's experience at this restaurant. Oh, yeah. We start out, and I forget with the first ones, but when we get to Heather, she tells Angie she doesn't trust her. And she says, why? And she doesn't actually tell Angie why.

What we end up finding out is Heather doesn't trust her because they were friends in high school. And that was glossed over the first couple episodes. They were friends. We thought there was something missing from that whole high school story. That seems to me to be the missing piece because they were friends in high school. And then Heather says it very eloquently. She sucks the biggest dick in the room. She wants to be with the cool kids.

And I think that we get proof of that from last season with how she was with Jen. And I'm not saying that Heather can't be accused of the same thing because of her relationship with Jen. But at the same time, you can't deny that Angie was ride or die for Jen. Jen was clearly going down. So then she jumped over to the Lisa Barlow ship. And I think they've been friends for, that's not true. I think they connected last year. I don't know.

They did at some point last year. But it was around the same time that Jen, I think they went to San Diego. and it's when Jen dumped the bottle of water on Angie's head, that's when Lisa and Angie started to click. That's right. So they've been friends pretty much since then. But again, they did that only because Angie and Jen's relationship started going downhill. Correct.

Yeah, I agree with that. And we kind of get through everybody, and Meredith goes, and she doesn't say anything bad about Angie. And Mary, thank you, Mary Cosby. She might actually be the prophet. Who knows? But Mary Cosby comes out and goes, that's not what you said. You said that you had a feeling. about Angie. But before we get

there, we get Monica's prickly about Lisa. And this one I think is valid because she has an issue with her bringing up the $60,000 ring over and over and over again. And Lisa's like, I never really talked about it that much. And it's like, let's go through it then. Bravo

Production. Hit it. Mention 1. Mention 2. Mention 3. Mention 4. Mention 5. There were 7 plus mentions of this ring. Half of them specifically said the monetary value. which completely goes against, and this doesn't make any sense to me, she kept saying it's a sentimental thing.

I just don't want to lose it. If it's sentimental, then do not tell us how much it is. That immediately wipes the whole sentiment away from the fucking thing. Yep, sentimental things. It just doesn't make any sense. Like, you're clearly wrong. You're mad.

I don't know. Maybe it is sentimental. I'm not going to tell you it's not. But the fact that you keep bringing up the money aspect of it all is either one, showboaty. Look at me. I've got a $60,000 ring. I lost it,

but I'm going to let you know how much it was the entire time or two you care about money and like I don't know it just doesn't make any sense to me it's just she talks about it so much I didn't think that honestly I didn't think that Lisa handled it poorly I think it could have gotten a lot worse when Monica brings something like that up especially somebody that you just met somebody that you're not really friends with I get that and I think that Lisa just said you know I hear you I get it I understand and Monica didn't push too far no Lisa didn't take too much and she was able to kind of move on. It was weird because it's something that was bothering us too. Right. And we understand why Monica was bothered by it. And for something that was kind of annoying, they were able to squash it. She takes it in stride. Now, it could pop up again next week, we don't really know. Before you get too

far. She takes it in stride at the table and then goes to a confessional and she says, when you can afford a $58,000 ring and then the price changes. When you can afford a $58,000 ring, then maybe you can complain about it, you fucking bitch or whatever. That's how we know that she feels. But like that. That's exactly why she keeps saying $60,000. I agree. But for me, like, when this woman just

told you, like, her reasoning behind it was not accusatory. It's like, look, I'm struggling. I've got four kids. I'm a single mom, which, yeah, you're a single mom because you banged your brother-in-law. But at the same time, you still have the children. That doesn't take away from the fact that you're trying to be a good mom, provide all of those things. So to hear somebody get so up in arms over and over again about losing a $60,000 ring probably hits you a little bit. It's probably not awesome to hear. And I think it's a good check. Like, that's a moment for Lisa to be like, oh, you know what? Maybe I

do need to be aware of who I'm talking around because I also, I would imagine a lot of people that are around when they hear that. They're like, ew. Like, tough shit, dude. Like, also, you guarantee the rings insured, so, like, go get another one. But, like, stop talking about it. So I think it was actually a good check. And I don't think that Lisa took it

well. I'm glad she took it well at the table. But the fact that she went and made that confessional, I didn't love that. I throw unless confessionals, they spill, like, actual knowledge or something else, I always kind of just like analyzing the moment because confessionals, you know, weeks and weeks later, you think of quips that you may have been able to say at that point in time.

That's true. I'm going to give her the grace here because she actually handled it well and could have blown up and obviously a lot of other things blew up. Okay. So she kind of kept her cool there and I appreciate that. You know what? It's funny you said it that way. It's almost like when you have an argument with somebody and then like 20 minutes later.

You're like, damn, I wish I said that. That's what confessionals are. You play the argument in your head. Yeah. I should have said this. I would have been sick, and then it would have went this way. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. But what did not need to happen?

Had no business doing this. Thank God she did, but had no business doing this. Angie wants to give a toast because Greeks love to toast. And she says the word of the day is fake. What are you doing right now? Why on earth would you take this route? you are regardless of your feelings of the matter you're on her trip dude just just wear it for a little while when you have the chance to talk to her one-on-one have a conversation don't teach us the greek word for

fake and then say that's the word for fake and merrith says angie said publicly that they couldn't be friends and we didn't get a clip of that so like i'm going to take that one with a grain of salt but angie goes on she's like maybe i should explain why i'm upset merri's like i really really don't care. I really do not care. And this was one of my favorite interactions I think I've seen in a while because it takes such a left turn. Yep. And I was not ready for it. And the fact that Angie takes the approach of trying to take digs at Meredith, digs at Meredith. She's like, you rent all of your shit. Monica again's like, dude, what the fuck are you doing? Which is what we're all doing. It's like, stop it. And I think that's why I like Monica, it's implanting

somebody with our perspective. And she's like, you need to knock this shit off. And it goes to her confessional. She's like, I don't know what the fuck she thinks she's doing. She's like four foot 10 and 70 pounds. Meredith will beat the shit out of her. And I'm not going to get involved in that fight. So I'm just trying to

pull it back, trying to lean it in. This is where we get. We've seen it multiple times, like leading up to this season. We've seen clips of it on mine. You can leave after saying it. Fucking wild. It sounded like Gandalf out there. you shall not bash.

And then she did the weird British accent, too. I love the British accent. I think that Meredith was plastered. They were all really drunk. Well, for the most part, it seems like all the more. And you get to see so many different, like, this is actually a really good case study for, like, the different levels of drinking. Oh, yeah. Heather is, like, goofy and funny, and then she throws up at the end of the night.

Meredith is an emotional wreck. Lisa's quiet at the other end of the table. And, you know, you can kind of kind of mix in. a couple things in there. But everybody else is the in-between people. Exactly. They go a little bit this, a little bit. You get the hard ends of the spectrum and then the trickle-down effect.

Which, by the way, any time that I've ever had, have you ever had an espresso martini when you were drinking? I had one, and I didn't like it. Yeah, it's one of those things that, like... It's like a Red Bull vodka. You ever have two in a night? You're dead. Are you?

I don't think, because I used to do, like, I'd mess with Red Bull vodka's, and I remember one time distinctly, I was, like, so drunk, but I, my heart was. I was like, I don't care for this at all. Like, I don't like this at all. No, it's just not, it's not a good move, and I think they had at least three or four. You know what my... Wild amount of espresso martinis. My roommate at Ohio State, what he used to love was Yeager and Red Bull.

Yeah, Yeagerbaum. Yeah, is that a Yeager bomb? Is Jaeger and Red Bull? Oh, okay, so he would 24-7 in our dorm room, like, we had nothing else in our fridge because he would buy the biggest bottle of Yeager and it took up that whole mini-fridge, and it would be Jaeger and Red Bull. And this motherfucker. college move.

But he would just, like, pull from the bottle and then wash it down with a red bolt. Like, that was his, yeah, yeah, dude. It gives me literally the hair on the back of my neck standing up. But I don't like that feeling of being, like, amped up and slowing down. No. Unless. Unless. It's cocaine.

No. It's the original for loco for me. Oh, well, yeah, that will always live on in infamy. I do not know. I've actually had this discussion before about having a party where we were to go back and, like, drink what we used to in high school. Like, let's get some 40s, sane eyes, some high gravity things in here. Hurricanes.

Like, let's just get into it and just see how it goes. Obviously, we'll never be able to get the original four loco because it's been banned by the FDA because it should be dangerous. It was giving kids heart attacks. I was giving kids heart attacks, yes, because they would drink like five or six of them. Do you know what I've looked up the formula? You know what it's equivalent to? What?

Five cups of coffee, five shots of vodka and a shot of espresso. That is the equivalent of the original four, local and the reason was now it they still make them but they only have caffeine in right the ones back then like you when you get a monster and says like tory and quarry and goron like all that shit it had all of that oh my plus they wouldn't regulate like that was my like that was every once in a while you would get one that was a blackout in a can yeah i remember black out in a can yeah they got the heavy one oh yeah that was a good sidetrack yeah yeah where we um oh the you can leave where you can leave yeah we got the gandolph moment from meredith

and this is where you know and it could be a cop out somebody alludes to that later uh whitney does on the bus ride back where like this is what meredith does like she kind of puts her foot in her mouth and then she tries to reel it and like i'm dealing with a lot of stuff but for me i thought originally i told you when she said there's a lot more going on in the world i was like i think there's more here then when she drops the there's kids that are going to be disabled and this and now I'm like, what the fuck? And she gets up and leaves the table. I'm like, this cannot be the root of the problem.

No. There's no way that this is it. Unless it is. I think we'll find out what the root is because it's Meredith. And luckily, her and Lisa seem to be okay. Yeah. So we'll get it through Lisa. Like Meredith will tell Lisa what's going on, but not anyone else.

What's interesting with Lisa, when they go outside to talk, Lisa says, because Meredith's going off, she's like, oh, she wants to get into this. Like, I've got dirt on her. If she wants me to talk about her hubspins. Huspins. Huspins. Not husband. Hubspins.

If she wants me to talk about hubspins, I will. And Lisa goes in a confessional. And she, this is very good analysis by Lisa. I like this moment. She's like, this is a pattern because Meredith pushes people away. And then she has rumors. And then we go, they're doing a good job with production, bringing the receipts this season, which I appreciate. They go back to last season.

pretty much to the T pushes away Lisa next thing we know she's dropping the rumors about the jazz tickets dropping rumors about Vita tequila so in that moment now I'm questioning

is there more going on or is this a pattern? It's probably a pattern and I did appreciate the way that Lisa did that I also really appreciated that during that whole interaction outside of the restaurant

you can still tell that Lisa's guarded around Meredith she is yet she's not willing yes she'll be a shoulder to cry on if we will but Lisa's not offering up a ton of information. And she's also not fully taking Meredith's side. When she starts to talk her through what just happened in there,

she's not saying Angie is completely wrong. Of course, like she should not have gone at you like that. She starts making generalized excuses for everybody just saying like it looks like, you know, there's emotions or flaring and this and that and whatever, instead of just purely taking Meredith's side. And I think Meredith's going to have to get used to that. And that's where I really don't understand. That kind of brings me back to what we were talking about last week or the week before

about Meredith and Lisa becoming friends again. what's in it for both of them. Lisa, I think she's just kind of open to seeing what happens. Meredith, there is an agenda there, and I really think it's because Meredith's just not close to anybody else in the group. That could be it. She's really not. I mean, she doesn't really have anybody to confide in.

She'll talk to her husband. We'll get those scenes, I'm sure, with the two of them in the bath, just discussing what happened on the trip. I'd rather not. And then they'll come back, and she doesn't have any of the women in the group to talk to real. She'll go back to Lisa. And once that starts happening, I'm interested to see what happens with that, because Lisa has

no allegiance to Meredith right now. She doesn't have to. And I like that she's standing by it, right? Right. We, that's what I was afraid of because their friendship before was very one-sided. She would, she would kind of cater to Meredith. And now, like you said last week, Lisa grew a spine. Like, we got a much tougher Lisa and someone that's protecting herself. So I hope that she carries that through. I like that she's staying middle of the road. I think that's going to serve her well for this whole season. If she can stay on that path, I don't, she's obviously going to get pushed one way or the other. I just think it's impossible to stay neutral this long, but I like the way that she's going.

Final scene, we get the sprinter van, and of course, Salt Lake is infamous for their sprinter van scenes, and Heather's fucking hysterical when she gets on the van. It goes downhill quickly. But this is where Whitney has her moments where it's like, all right, this was premeditated. You were trying to force this in to further your narrative, your storyline, she's like, this isn't real.

opportunistic and convenient for Meredith to say that she's going through a whole lot. And it's like, why? No one's even talking to you. And then when people challenge, like, why? Like, I think Mary brings up. She's like, why are you talking? She's like, I'm defending myself from who? No one was talking to you.

You weren't on the chopping block. You offered the information up. And then you defended yourself because you put your foot in your mouth. I love that when you're completely scot-free from a situation, which Whitney got herself into a lot of shit last year. It looks like she's going to it. She's doing it again, but she's doing it way more actively. Like, you left that dinner table.

You didn't really have any issues with anybody. No. You kind of squashed one thing when you were talking to Meredith at one point in time. You had an issue with her, but that was just during the game and you were able to move past it. Great, whatever. Nobody cares about you right now. Like, don't you just want to enjoy that? Yeah, can't you just?

Maybe being the fun person at the group could be a good time. You could have had a W tonight. You had a little drama dinner. You said, what's the big dill? Because you can't say deal. What's the big deal? like that was good that was enough you don't have to do this that's what i don't want and i think that's just kind of like where we are and like the forecast for housewives moving forward

nobody wants to just kind of like have a good time and just enjoy themselves and maybe be like comic relief and just have a little bit of fun here and they're like that's what heather was good at and then heather got involved in a lot of shit hopefully she goes back to it this season we'll see so far you were just given an opportunity to just maybe like hang around be nice play a couple of jokes here in there and have a little bit of fun. You already brought Angie on the trip. You did enough. First, you brought Angie on this trip, and nobody is mad at you for bringing Angie on the trip yet. No one said shit. Everybody's just mad at Angie for coming, the audacity of Angie to come. How about Whitney who invited her? Like, maybe you could have done that. No, they didn't.

So you somehow managed to escape this entire process without getting in trouble for anything. And you didn't feel right. So you had to insert yourself and be the asshole. To be, to make sense. To defend yourself. Yes. To defend yourself to no one. To nobody. So your own intrusive thoughts, probably. Thank God for our Lord and Savior. Hallowed be thy name, Mary Cosby, because she goes, why did you have to say anything? By the way, you called me a pornography.

A pornography, yes. Go on. What? I'm not familiar with that term. Yeah, everyone's like, what do you mean? It's like, you called me a pornography. At this point, it's only Heather Whitney and Mary on the van. We finally get the actual word because Heather's,

Heather popped her head up with their hat like upside down hanging underneath. Predator. Predator. She said predator. But she's still laughing too, which is so funny. But this is the Heather. And look, I'm not one to advocate for heavy drinking. We haven't seen like, I don't know, I guess we've seen a drunk Heather a lot in the past.

We haven't seen that drunk of a person. No, not on any of these shows, really, because they finally get off of the van. and I loved the driver, dude. The driver is holding that door open. Like, please get off. Like, please get off this fucking van. Can you please shut the door? I need some privacy.

Like, this is my door. And she's like, whatever. She's like, ah. And as soon as she closes it, I like that she took it in stride because when she comes back around the van, she's smiling. When she closes the door, she knows what's about that. She's like, I'm fucked. I'm going to have to power wash this motherfucker. Open the door because it's like a scene where, like, somebody farts in a room.

in their trap, like, give me out. Oh, my God, oh, my God. Because Whitney's, like, panicking. She's like, open the door, open the door, open the door, open the door. Door's the door open, open, door open, door's the door open. There's the door open, and this is where Peagate comes in. Do you think she peed? I think so.

I think she did. That was not... Either that or, like, a water bottle spilled behind her, and it's just doing her dirty. Here's my thing. It's a really bad placement. I don't want to get too graphic, and I'm going to try not to. Oh, they watched it. The bag is seemingly holding up really well.

Yeah, it wasn't the bag. And it was way too liquidy to be... And it was also too clear. She was drinking espresso martinis. That puke would be dark. Yeah. That was a clear liquid coming out from... Underneath.

Let's just... Let's say it what it is. No. She peed. Okay. She peed. And it's okay. Lots of people have done it.

Shockingly, that was not one of my things. I'd never peed while drunk. Being and throwing up? Uh, no. Same time? I've been on the... We don't do this. We don't do this.

I just completely unintentionally went there. I forgot what we were doing. Yeah, we're drifting into it. I thought we were like podcasting right now. I just wanted to. We're just having a conversation now. Yeah, no, no, no. We don't have to do this.

But overall, Salt Lake, tremendous start from an abysmal season last year. So I, it couldn't come at a better time for me. I'm thrilled that, you know, after trudging through OC all season, we get this. And because I was so nervous about this show, I wanted it to have a return to perform. And I think so far, I'm not, we will not do the thing where we're so excited. Stop it now. Yeah. It's good for now.

Yes. So let's move on to questions. That takes us to the question portion of the show up first from FaceTune. Yes, the app FaceTune asked us a question and they said, do you FaceTune like a housewife? And no, this is not an ad. We are not sponsored by FaceTune. This is an actual question we got from FaceTune. I don't.

I don't either. You want to throw us some free stuff, maybe. Yeah, you know, we can be bribed into face-tuning. These faces, they don't need to be tuned. Yeah, you don't have to tune this face. Hey, now. Face-tune. But thanks for asking.

Wow. Thanks, FaceTune. Wow, thanks, FaceTune. You just got a free ad right there. You're welcome. Up next from Liv Tate. It's live.t.8, but I think you mean Tate, and I read it right for once. Do you think Tamara goes after Jen and Ryan because she's jealous Ryan didn't like her?

Oh, I like that. No, no. I think she goes after Jen and Ryan just because she thinks that she knows something scandalous and thinks it's good for TV. I think there's a hint of jealousy there. She did say earlier in the season,

like he hit on me. And then everyone was like, no, no, he didn't. I don't think that she wanted to bang Ryan. I don't think she likes other people getting attention, especially when it's her friend at her gym. Yeah. So yeah. Okay.

I can see some truth there. From E-Fits-07, what is your Fuzzy-Wuzzy-slash-I-Pick about the Dallas Cowboys? Fuzzy-Wuzzy is that they haven't been to the Super Bowl since I've been watching football. And the ice pick is nothing. They're a great franchise that never wins anything. My Fuzzy Wuzzy is the fact that without fail, every season, they destroy themselves. It's so fun to watch the demise of the Cowboys time in and time. time out and the fact that they hired

Mike McCarthy of all people to be their coach who is known for just fizzling out in tremendous fashion is so picture perfect. My ice pick is that there's an alarming amount of Cowboys fans in the Philadelphia area and it's weird to me. That's stupid. Yeah,

that's my ice people. Those people are real losers. Yeah. Right, Heather? Yeah, right, Heather. We're on your team now. From Way ya way Why do people think Heather pissed herself? Do you not know how pants work? What's your... From way away, why do you think people think...

Jesus, why do you wear the sword? From way away, why do people think Heather pissed herself? Do they not know how pants work? What's your thought? To which I need to counter immediately. Do you know how pants work? Pants are not waterproof. Yeah, they're not like rubber pants

that you would take to go fly fishing or something like. If you pee your pants, it will come out like that. If you do a full pee, Like a full drunk pee? It would 100% stream eventually. Let's get Mythbusters on us. Should we? Should we?

Oh, we need to do our own Mythbusters. Just pee somewhere? Through pants. We've had too much bathroom talk. I know, right? Which room would you stay in at the Trixie Motel? This is from Christy Jedlicky. Um, hmm.

There was the, um... I don't remember the... Malibu Bingo room. Malibu Barbara. There was the honeymoon suite. Whatever one, the one that had the circle bed, I'm out. There's something about sleeping on a circle versus a rectangle. So, so same page here.

I just don't, and look, I know you can lay in the middle and everything will be fine, but it just wouldn't feel safe. You know why I don't like it? It just reminds you of like a grimy motel honeymoon suite. Oh, yeah, mirrors on the ceilings. And just you know that the sheets have never been cleaned. Yeah. That's why I can't do a circle bed.

Yeah, that's gross. All right, let's do one more question. from vix b this is a fitting one to end on is heather the only sane one on rosy or am i the only delusional one no i think you're we're coming to terms of it too i think that yeah she seems to be the only reasonable one right now yeah it's too early for monica but obviously we know about her past transgressions this is oh c oh shit i'm way off i thought heather i heard heather and i just went on that that's why i said rosy so whoopsies um yeah i mean i i would say so it just seems like Emily we were we're kind of out on her now because she's just

jumping on the bandwagon Gina's problem is that it seems like she's just pining for affection from Heather and it's kind of rough to watch and we know about the rest of them so yeah Heather's probably the only same one bunch of losers we'll say it bunch of Cowboys fans bunch of yeah well said golf clap golf clap snap that's all we got this evening you got anything else no shocker but remember to follow us in all of our socials at brov underscore bros subscribe to our podcast or our youtube either or or both at brav underscore nope that's brab bro's podcast what a plug i'm killing it you're good at rob bros podcast youtube and hey if you're bored and want to do us a little favor a little favy one please subscribe to our youtube channel it helps us out tremendously

and two drop a review little five star guy give us your thoughts and feelings on the show it helps us out a lot. Other than that, one more time, Scoots, anything else to add? Yeah, get some cameos. Camios are fun to do. Oh, yeah. We have those too. Look, I had something. Wow. Look at that. I forget to ask that question. I don't know who to shout out at this point. I don't either, but hey, you got one more. There we go. Other than that, have a tremendous weekend. I think you're going to ask me again. All right. See you later, guys. No, we're out of here. Bye. Go birds.

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