Brown Girls Do It Too - This Is Your Life, Poppy

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

Rubina interviews Poppy about her life: What has she learned? Does she have regrets?

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I'm Robina. I'm Poppy. And this is Brown Girls Do It Too. Hello. I'm Robina. And I need therapy for guilt. I have a lot of guilt that I need to work through. That's actually quite a serious opener.

I did not know this. Hold on to that thought because I want to come back to you on that. I'm Poppy and I need therapy for my mum, my dad, my siblings, the whole family, basically. The whole family. Yeah. So this episode is a very special episode where we're going to learn all about the wonderful life and adventures

of Ms... Are you a Ms.? Ms. Poppy J. Yeah, we're doing this. Are you a Ms.? I'm a Ms. Is that M-I-S-S? No, no, it's M-S. M-S. Yeah, I'm a Ms. I don't really care. I don't give a shit. M-S, M-I-S-S.

So just Poppy J. Just Poppy J. We're going to learn all about you. Today, you're going to sit on my leather couch. Yeah. And I'm going to ask some questions about your life. We're doing this new thing, by the way, where each episode is about the other person, just when we think that we don't. Because I think that we

know each other quite well. But I think every two episodes we throw something in the works, a spanner in the works, and we're like, what? I don't know this about you. The truth is, we have quite an intense relationship, though, because we meet to record this podcast and are very intense with each other. And then we talk to each other pretty much every day or every other day where it's either work or non-work.

Well, it's now shifted into non-work, but very much so it's work. For me, you're a bit like taking an ecstasy pill. Sounds like a compliment, but it doesn't really talk about... Yeah, no, no, no. Do you want to go into the comedown that comes afterwards that I've read about, obviously? I mean, the highs are very, very exhausting. And I know that it's going to run out soon. So I'm like, OK, well, just enjoy the moments.

But you're quite an intense personality, aren't you, Poppy? I would say yes, yeah. We're going to do some light psychoanalysis. So we're going to do some light psychoanalysis. So we're going to do some light psychoanalysis today. You can look at me as Freud. Yeah. And I'm going to be talking to you about certain markers. Seema Anand said Freud was a bit of a prick though,

so could you be someone else? Oh yeah, I don't know. No, it's fine, Doreen. You can be Freud. You're Brown Freud. You're Brown Freud. Guru, I'm your guru. You're guru, okay.

I'm your guru and I'm going to be asking you about certain points in your life. So we're going to play the game that I like to call Sevens. Like the woman in Stranger Things. Okay. Oh, is her name right, Seven? Her name is Eleven.

I don't want Stranger Things. See, when you're going to try a cultural reference. No, we're doing sevens. Eleven can go fuck herself. Where is seven? Okay, seven. Seven would be a cool name for a film. It's a cool name for her, but it's the name of that film with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman. Oh, seven, Morgan Freeman. Yeah, okay. I mean, it's not.

Yeah, seven. Seven, okay. Let's just stick to game of sevens. So we're going to go through the certain ages of your life, starting with you at age seven, and then we want 14, 21, and if anyone knows maths, where it goes next. So, Poppy J, tell us what you were like aged seven. So, age seven, it was 1992. And weirdly, 1993, just a year after, was the best year for me. I don't know why, but I feel like lots of good things happened that year.

I had a new sister, sister number three. In fact, that's a lie. Sisters two and three came into my life. Wow. Yeah, my mum did not fuck around, man. No, didn't take any breaks. She literally couldn't. I mean, you know this.

Your doctor said that after your baby, you're so fertile. So she gave birth to one, and then a month later she gave birth to the other. She was pregnant with the second one so they're both in the same academic year so 1993 let me paint you a picture I was living with my granny

or we just moved I think we just moved into our own flat and it was just I was carefree I was young all the things that we talk about

on this podcast Robina the misogyny the patriarchy your sexual innocence being taken away I hadn't discovered it. No idea. I had no idea.

I tell you something, I got wisps of the misogyny through my mum because my mum was a very sad woman. She was often angry and upset and bitter and I didn't realise it then because obviously I was seven but later on I knew why she was so unhappy because of her circumstances. So I got whiffs of that at the tender age of six, seven,

but it was such a carefree time. Who was your best friend when you were seven? Gulshanara. Gulshanara? Do you know that's my mum's name, Gulshan? Is it really? Yeah. Okay, should this episode just be about you?

Because I did not know this as well. I remember writing Gulshanara's name, and it used to have handwriting class, and you'd get the Beryl handwriting pen, remember the Beryl the Red? Gulshan is a lovely name to write. And it's writing and you used to have handwriting class and you'd get the Beryl handwriting pen remember the Beryl the Red Gulshanara's a lovely name to write and it's writing it

and joined up handwriting it's so nice but it goes on forever and Gulshanara she was your best buddy I tell a lie Gulshanara came later in life

Julie was my best friend and I think it was quite toxic at the age of seven because we were often mistaken for twins oh no apparently she looked like me I was definitely and maybe this is now why I try to be so alpha,

or I am alpha, I think that she thought she was alpha, and I think I was her sidekick. I think I was just a bit meek and shy. You weren't the protagonist of your own life. No. You weren't the main character energy that you are now. So, really, was 1993 the best year for me?

I don't know. But in my friendship, it was me and Julie. And we ran circles around people, but I think she was sort of the bigger character me? I don't know. But in my friendship, it was me and Julie. And we ran circles around people. But I think she was sort of the bigger character. And I secretly knew it. Do you have a good memory from age seven? Yes, I have a really good memory. Why don't you share something that happened when you were age seven?

Oh, wow. At the age of seven. God, you're really taking me back. Well, that memory of my mum. My mum bathing me. And it would be my sister and i mean you know this story really well but it was it was it was the day i'd learned about the patriarchy and the birds and the bees all rolled into one it was um my mum was bathing myself and my sister she would have been five obviously in those days when you have loads of children you're you're chucked in the

bathtub together and i went me and my sister did rock, paper, scissors. And I, because you always want to go first because my mum scrubs you down like it's a Catholic sin. She just read raw. So I went last and she was scrubbing me and she sort of looked me in the eye. Her eyes were glazed over. She was, she'd clearly been crying or she'd been upset.

And effectively the backstory is that my dad had fucked up. He came home hangry. He told my mum he's coming home at five, but came home at three. There was no rice, and he took it out on her. My dad and my daddy had a go at my mum. It wasn't her fault at all. And so my mum looks me in the eye, and she's like, everything that ever bad happens in the world will always be your fault,

whether you like it or not. And that was a really deep moment. It stayed with me. It stays with me to this day so that happened when i was seven and other than that terrible memory uh my sevens were great carefree and innocent carefree innocent best friends with julie gulshanara came a second it's nice came second yeah okay on to 14 now 14 is interesting game of sevens yeah what's happening at 14 year old poppy uh very difficult time uh horny little shit had you had you grown boobs no i didn't i didn't get my period till 15 16 didn't get your period to 15 16 didn't get my period um was a blanket looked like a pencil with a headscarf on. Was treated like a porn star.

Oh. Yeah, so bear with me. I looked like a child still, but I was treated like a slut. So I wasn't allowed to play out. I wasn't allowed to do anything. I had really strict parents. I couldn't go to after school drama class. Couldn't even have friends around mine.

Couldn't play with any of my cousins. It was shit. You have the burden of being a woman when you're not a woman. So it was a difficult time for me. Did you have boobs at 14? I didn't have boobs. I didn't have my period. Yeah, I didn't have my period.

I didn't develop so much later. But I was masturbating like a rabid dog. Right. So you had the hormones. I had the hormones. Oh, God, yeah. I think it was 15, 16. So it was just about happening

And it was really difficult for me It was really hard And also it's that classic age When you're watching all the rom-coms This is the thing My parents made me wear a headscarf And I was forced to wear Salva Kameez at school

And it's the one time When you want to be When you want to express yourself Through fashion and clothes What kind of music Were you listening to at 14? Oh definitely R&B and hip-hop Oh yeah

And shit-pop I didn't go to I music were you listening to at 14? Oh, definitely R&B and hip-hop. Oh, yeah. And shit-pop. I feel like you go to an indie school, where it's all like indie shit, or you go to a hip-hop school, and I went to a hip-hop R&B school. Okay. So like Mariah Carey, JLo, Destiny's Child. Aaliyah. Britney Spears.

Obviously, I loved a slice of pop. Aaliyah loved a big slice of pop. But that's who I was listening to. I wasn't listening to anything alternative. Absolutely alternative. Absolutely nowhere. That came later in my uni days. What's a song that you knew back then that you knew I was listening to I wasn't listening to anything alternative absolutely alternative absolutely nowhere that came later in my uni days what's a song that you knew back then that you knew all the words to?

everything by Britney Spears and Destiny's Child really Destiny's Child bills bills bills keep paying my bills clearly not that but there's one song on the album where I thought she was saying the P word but she was saying packets

what was she saying about her packets? Packets all grown, packets full grown or something. No, I think there's a pockets. Oh, she was saying pockets. And ladies and gentlemen, 20-something years later, I finally realise what Beyonce was saying. She's talking about pockets. Anything else at 14 that you thought was an interesting time in the life of Poppy J?

Yes. It had nothing to do with sex really because at that time it was very evident that I was going to be getting an arranged marriage. Was that like something

that had to be told to you? 100%. That was very much the status quo. You are going to marry the person we pick. Right. Which is why

it feels quite odd having this conversation with you because my life couldn't have been more different to that 14-year-old puppy. And the journey that she's had to go through. One particular memory stuck. We'd just moved into this house. I know you want to do games of sevens, but I was 12 or 13. So can I relay this memory to you? Everyone was, we were painting.

Well, my dad and my uncle were painting. And I was wearing a cello of comedes. And I said to my parents, I had that one pair of jeans that I cherished. Because it's all seen as Western, right? British. And I was like, oh, should I put on the pair of jeans? I was looking for an excuse to wear these jeans. So we can paint.

So I'm not going to get anything on my nice cello of comedes. And my uncle, who I actually liked, but it was a very pricky thing for him to say, no, you don't need to wear jeans. Jeans is for white people. Don't wear jeans stay where you are and I I don't know why

but I thought there was a sinking feeling in my heart where I was like wow so this is what my teenage years are going to be like I'm not going to be allowed to wear what I want

and do what I want and clearly fuck who I want I mean that wasn't going to happen for another good decade decade so yeah so yeah

difficult time was Poppy J at 14 the gobshite that she is now definitely yeah that's not changed yeah okay on to the next stage this is like um through the keyhole slash this is your life this is your life yeah the red book guy yeah and then by the time you were 21 who were were you? I'm afraid I was fat, married and depressed. It gets worse. Every 21-year-old's dream. That's why they give you the key.

The key. God, what happened to that show? Why do they give you a key? I think when you're 21, people give you like a kind of key. It's like a 21-year-old's key to the... It's a lot of rite of passage, isn't it? It's like a key to vote, a key to the kingdom. Why did they... Did they give a key in that show?

I'm sure they did. What, into through the keyhole? No, this is your life. This is your life. Oh, no, they gave them a red book. They were like, this is your life. Wow, my life has been condensed into a red book. I'm getting my shows mixed up.

Things, I promise you, get worse before they get better. So it gets worse. So I'm stuck in a marriage that I don't want to be in at 21 at 21 I'm not happy I'm depressed I'm having sex though

and then I because all around me from our aunties and my mother I was like well I've got to do this now I'm unhappy but I'll make this marriage work

because under layers and layers of pessimism I've always said this about myself I'm an eternal optimist so I was like I'm gonna make this work I'm gonna be married to this person forever I'm gonna have three children we're gonna have a house we're gonna get a Mercedes and I'll be happy and I'll be happy I'll be happy honestly so I was like I'm gonna make this work yeah um so that's where I was when I was 21 great and when you were 21 what was Poppy J wearing at 21? Kulots to hide the thunder thighs Oh yes

Poppy at 20 What kind of food did Poppy at 21 like to eat? Poppy at 21 was too much food 3,000 calories worth of food every day It's a lack of education but I was also unhappy and also clearly eating my feelings but also I had the rod

you know the the implant. Oh, yeah. Which was under my skin. So I think all of that played into it and I just bloomed. I bloomed. So Poppy was wearing mostly culottes and dodgy boots that were the fashionable choice back in Y2K. Nice.

The mid-naughties. Okay, we're in the video game. We're going up to the next level. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Who were you when you were 28? 28. So now I promise you it gets better. Right.

So I would say great year for me was 1993. Another brilliant year was 2011, 2012. It's like the 27, 28. Because once you make it past 27, you've missed the 27 Club. You didn't die. You didn't die. So, you know, that's good. Now you're in 28. And 28 is the year where you've missed the 27 club you didn't die you didn't die so you know that's good now you're in 28 and 28 is the year where you're like well i didn't die what am i going to do with my life now well and you live to tell the tales of what you're going to do with your life so i uh had freedom i've met my ex-partner who i still think is the

most the most incredible person i um after my ex-husband i was at the lowest that I could be like completely no self-esteem no confidence so at 27, 28 I wasn't quite there in terms of shagging loads of people but I was definitely

on my way I was sort of the poppy you see now in terms of confidence I was like still running circles around people but not quite finishing the deal

i.e. going home and fucking them so it was a great time I was partying I was going out raving I'd met these new friends circles around people, but not quite finishing the deal, i.e. going home and fucking them. So it was a great time. I was partying. I was going out raving. I'd met these new friends who are my friends, who are my good friends now.

So 28 was fabulous because I was broken, but very much on the mend and flying and, you know. And were you in a relationship at 28? I was in a relationship with Mike's partner, yeah. How long had you been together by the time you were 28?

Two years. Okay, so it was like early days in a relationship. Early days, it was beautiful. And actually, after my ex-husband, the best antidote. Here was a man who was beautiful and funny and kind and who had hobbies, who taught me how to say please and thank you and recycle. It was great.

And what was Poppy J's 28-year-old tipple? What would you have ordered in the pub? Oh, at the time, I was still on gin and tonic. So I only started, I really only started drinking when I was 25. So like gin and tonic's all my thing. So I was still on gin and tonic. I hadn't even, I don't think I discovered fizz at that time. Because that's, by the way, all Poppy J right now drinks.

It's the drink of champions. It's like Ribena for me. We're back for a new series. Press is the podcast where you get to air what has you guys pressed and what gets us pressed. More dilemmas. Who does that?

Who does that? More voice notes. So why are you asking me out for if you don't know what to do? And more relationship tremors. Wait, so you told YouTube before you told your mother? Yeah, babe. You are mad.

Mad, babe. Boom. One extra present, press. Listen on BBC Sounds. Brown girls do it too. And now for the final sevens of Poppy J's life. Yeah. So far, obviously, you know,

inshallah, you will live long. 35 years old. Oh, wow. So I'm no longer with my ex-partner. I'm shagging around. I'm living my best life. And oddly, I'm sort of going back to 14-year-old Poppy and teen Poppy.

I'm going back to sort of late teens and early 20s Poppy, the Poppy that I never got to be. So I'm doing a weird case of Benjamin Button and going the other way. But I'm actually, I do find with a lot of brown women, we're mature beyond our years, but there's an emotional stunted development. So there is a thing where you live with your family, you don't have the kind of independence that maybe your white friends would have had at 16 17 18 if they'd left the family nest so I really feel like I'm going back to my youth and and reliving those those experiences that I never got so I'm I'm very happy are you happy yeah I am really happy yeah I really am happy I've also um realized that having a

boyfriend which I basically I came out of a relationship and went straight into another one. The emotional, I think what I've realised as well, so I keep saying what I've realised, what I've learnt

having left a relationship and launched straight into another one is that Poppy J is not ready to be in a relationship. And I think the biggest learning curve

I've had in the last six months is that. Because I told you about my theory when you come out of a long-term relationship a bit like pregnancy your fertile ground to go into jump into another one because you know what you're doing because you know what you're doing and you know all the signs oh I like this and I like that and he makes me feel fuzzy and it's magical it's this but actually what I've realized is I have a lot of growing to do and it's something that

you've told me as well privately it's like I've never been single I mean I've been single when I was a fucking kid but that doesn't count that's Muslim parents saying you're not gonna fucking date anyone till you get married you can't count your years of being single it's like I was single from zero to 14 exactly so like what's from zero to 19 I don't even count that right that's just my mum and dad saying you you're not allowed to have a relation be in a relationship but I think it's something what something one of our guests said like I think I love love and I think for all of my chat about being in non-monogamous relationships, I actually just need to do it.

And I think I've got the framework and the mind for it, but I just need to do it. But for whatever reason, monogamy fucking loves me. Just traps me all the time. Buggers me senseless. And now I just need to just be on my own, sit alone in my thoughts, have a good time because boyfriends and partners, they are work. And I need to work on myself. So actually, I'm in I'm in a strange place.

And I think I think I am in a happy place. It's a place where I need to be, basically. Work in progress. Yeah. Do you have any regrets in your life that you'd like to share with us oh my god so many i i i can't even i can't get into it there's just there are there are many would you would you like me to get into one maybe just one okay i suppose i regret the way i treated my younger siblings i was really strict with them because my parents that's all you knew that's all i knew and also i would have been a boy right you know how older brothers rule with a metaphorical and figurative iron fist yeah that's how my parents raised me and I was really mean and unfair I was so strict on them but I was sort of third parenting so I wish I but then I didn't have the foresight they brainwashed

me so that's all I knew so that's probably of my many regrets that's probably one of my big big regrets and my second regret is I've always been a bit indecisive. I know for someone who's quite assertive, you'd think that, no, Poppy knows what she's doing. And believe you me, most of the time I am. But for big, big things, like for my marriage, I kept saying yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. And I kept doing that for a long time. And if I just said no and stuck to my guns, I think I would have had a very different outcome. Yeah. Interesting.

Well, I really don't see you as indecisive. That's like not at all how I think about you. What do you really want from your sexual partners now, at your age, right now? I just want to be ravaged and I want to come each time. But as I've realised, I can't come with new people. I have to have some sort of bond or relationship and connection. You have to at least know their name. You have to at least know their name. Postcode, that kind of thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you do? Do you pay your taxes? Cool. I'm going to come now. Do you think you're good in bed? We talked about this in Series 1. I think I was a lazy shit.

But now when you're a fucking 24-year-old, you have to be good in bed, man. You have to up your game. You have to up your game. Honestly, I've literally put my back out having sex with these young men because honestly i'm just like oh my god i'm like walking around like an old lady did anal the other day started bleeding from the backside wow yeah so you've really got to try it you gotta do the work you gotta do the work also because you're older society is against you so you have to work out more you have to spend more money on creams you have to look better to look younger to look more appealing to these young men so yeah and i've had um recently that the

someone i've been with said i was the best sex he's had so i must be doing something right i do think i'm a bit lazy i know but i also think i feel like you're lazy no but i also think i feel like you give all the good chat no but i also I also... The first five minutes of Poppy's quite nice and then it's just like, she's just lying there. Yeah, but I also think that if I had to, if I had to, I'd pull out all the stops. Oh, really? I think you'd be better in bed than me.

I think if I had... Don't get me wrong. If I had to, I would. But I think you're consistently better. Yeah. Such a compliment. Yeah, I know. What do you like about yourself as a sexual partner yeah I might be lazy but I am game for anything anything anything

oh within reason I don't want you to like get in your life no I'm not into that so I knew you'd go there so not not that sort of stuff no scatty no scattiness and I'm not into vomiting and I'm not you know don't stick a whole what if somebody was, all I really want to do is cut your hair? See, ordinarily, I would. This is a soft spot for you. Yeah, it's a soft spot for me. You know me. This is how you know me.

Because you're very weird about your hair. This is how well you know me. Ordinarily, I would. But I really like my hair. And my beauty is in my hair. This is what you think about your hair. So, actually, you know me very fucking well. The kinkiest thing I could do is if i trimmed

a bit of your hair okay can you give me something else because this whole thing of being a trisexual is obviously not working because i'm not gonna let you go but the hair is my special thing give me something else uh that's not that's not like uh paint like bdsm or painful would you have a threesome absolutely i told you i'm gonna that's on my list. I want to do that in the next couple of weeks. Would you have sex in the BBC toilet? Fuck yes. Would you?

Would you have sex in the BBC toilets? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, exactly. The BBC are going to ban us from coming into this building. No one's having sex in the BBC toilets.

Have you seen the BBC toilets? They're like the most sterile fucking... A hospital toilet is more kinkier than a fucking BBC toilet. Yeah, that's true. No, I think I'm game for...

I'm a trisexual. And you're open. You're really honest. I'm really open and honest, yeah. OK, what would your younger self think of the poppy today? She'd say, well done. Well done, girl. In that Indian accent, well done. Well done! She'd say, you know what? I'm proud of you.

You've gone through many obstacles. you've gone through quite the journey and i'm happy where i'm happy with where you've taken us but you still need to work on your patience because you have that you still have the patience of a nat nat does that work i i've got one of my many bad qualities is impatience. I get really impatient. I think it's something that I've... Being first born, being spoiled, I think it's something I haven't really got rid of. But she'd be proud.

Who is the best sex of your life? You don't have to give us a name, but you just have to tell us something about them. Oh, best sex of my life. I'm going to answer that question by saying... I haven't had it yet. Well, I've had the best sex so far. It's a bit like our episode. Sex of my life. I'm going to answer that question by saying... I haven't had it yet. Well, I've had the best sex so far.

It's a bit like our episode. I've had the best sex so far. There's always someone sexier. And there's always someone different that at the time you find sexier. And you know what? She's so good, isn't she? Poppy should be a politician.

I always think she's really good at that. Ask me this question when we're 75 and we're doing the podcast because by that point I would have had all my sexual partners by then. Brown buddies do it too. Can't wait for that.

That's the comeback sequel we all need. You are the funniest person I know. So we've got quite a list of things to ask each other when we're 75 but honestly ask me when we're 75 because I would have had

most of my sexual partners by then. But I do believe of course I've had the best sex but I've had the best sex so far. What's the most surprising thing that you've done and I wonder if you could share the voice note from your hinge profile right you what why why do you want everyone to know what I've said on my hinge profile for Bina well because I think it's really funny but also it's this thing on hinge that you have to do which is like two truths and a lie which is like a really great bit of this game that we could do anyway uh okay so here it is so this is what it says on my uh they've really changed

the uh the old um interface on the old hinge okay so this is a so they've got as you know with hinge uh they have lots of different uh categories and one-liners and things that you need to fill in so this is what i've said two truths and what I've said. Two truths and a lie. Here we go. Two truths and a lie. I went undercover to investigate ISIS. I did my pilgrimage to Mecca and then went to Burning Man straight after. And I love dogs.

Make of that what you will. It's my favourite thing about Poppypy it's like i loved it when she told it to me when she was setting up his profile because it's just like it encompasses everything about you and no one is getting that right no one is getting that right no one knows can i just say it's really interesting you say that most people say dogs do they yeah most guys say dogs so i think i need to change they Because they've Googled you. Oh, yeah. I didn't think about that. But I think I need to change the delivery.

We'll get productions reaction. Poppy hates dogs. I hate dogs. I don't like dogs at all. But I think with dating profiles, it's so two-dimensional. You need voice notes. You need to know what people sound like. Obviously, I really hammed that up a bit.

Made myself sound like Michelle Hussain. And if you had any advice for your younger self what would you say I would say god I don't want to sound deep it's all going to be okay you're going to go through shit and then you're not and then you're going to be fine and just remember that and that's it that's really nice yeah that's like this thing my mum once said to me where she was like nothing's permanent yeah she was like

every feeling's not permanent and then she was like nothing's permanent except tattoos don't get a tattoo and I remember that I was like oh okay

that was her mum way of saying don't fucking get a tattoo she's like but tattoos are permanent you can't change your mind after that so it really stuck with me

a feeling feeling life you know everything's nothing's permanent yeah it's not that deep and I think I grew up

always thinking it was so deep and it was so meaningful and everything was so serious but it's like it's fine you're gonna be fine yeah so that's me

that's my life I've got one last question yeah what is your death row dish burger and chips best burger that was the quickest

I've ever heard you ask me. I played this game a hundred million times before. What's in the burger? Oh, so it's like the Dethro dish is the same as your Desert Island dish. Yeah. So the game is you have the same dish for the rest of your life. You click your fingers and you get it, right? But you don't have to have it every day.

So one day you can do Tom Hanks Castaway, get fish, coconut, fast. But if you want to eat, you have the same meal every day. A really desert island dish works with the cuisine. But my death row meal is the best burger and fries. Like, that's my meal. Forever? Forever. Well, I'm dying, so it's my last one.

Your last one. Yeah, I'm really basic. Yeah, nothing fancy about me. Like burger and fries. I'm so surprised it wasn't like a South Asian cuisine or a one. Yeah, I'm really basic. Yeah, nothing fancy about me. Like burger and fries. I'm so surprised it wasn't like a South Asian cuisine or a dish. Well, here's the thing. I think the best cuisine, so my desert island dish would be Indian.

Oh, because then you get to have all the variation. Because you have literally everything. Indian food is the best. But it's like South Indian food, you know, like, you know, dosa and idli and sambar. And I was just like, it's incredible. Anyway, I'm really like, it's incredible. Anyway, I'm really hungry now. Me too. I know what we should do.

We should do the quick fire fuck game between each other from series two. Yes! Because that's really quick. It's just really quick fire. And now the moment we've all been waiting for that we've done

across series two. It's the quick fire fuck game! I love this game. We never played it on each other i know i know this is the moment doggy or missionary doggy pubes or no pubes no pubes lights aren't you don't have to go so far it's not a game show i want the 500 pound cash lights on or lights off lights lights off spit or swallow? swallow porn or no porn? no porn

lube it up or natural juices? natural juices except when I'm going out my backside hand job or foot job? yeah is this where I'm giving the no it's just the hand job

or it's feet giving you the hand giving on the dick oh yeah yeah we had the same problem last time it's a really confusing one or it's feet giving you the hand, giving on the dick. Oh, yeah, yeah. We had the same problem last time. Oh, yeah, it was a really confusing one. Yeah, it was a really confusing one. Every time we played it with people.

A series later, we still haven't figured out what that means. A hand job, I guess. Yeah, hand job, hand job, hand job, hand job. Give head or get head? Get head. Quickie in the toilet or quickie in the park? Quickie in the toilet. Have you fucked in a park?

It's really uncomfortable. But a toilet's like smells of bleach. Yeah, but if you get the angles right and they're fast, you just, it happens very quickly. Okay. Yeah. Good to know.

Thank you very much, Poppy J. It has been a delight getting to know you over the last, how long have we known each other? Like three years? 2019. Yeah, so like three years. It's extraordinary.

I mean, we've had our ups and downs I feel like we've mostly had ours we have mostly had ours we've not had it down and whenever we we're quite good whenever we've had it down we sort of talk it out

we flesh it out although I want it to go on record if we ever fall out it'll be your fault why are you saying that you always say that every duo why because you think

I'll hold a grudge every duo I don't know how grudges every duo that comes to an end that will come to an end what about Morecambe and Wise well actually I think one of them died

oh so I hope that one of us dies oh right you hope that one of us dies no one of us dies in older age and we don't fall out okay you're older

so you should die first right let's just do the fucking 70 year old podcast first would these do it too would these do it too that's such a good title

Rubina I love you there is many things that you are learning about me but I feel like you do know me well and your turn is coming my turn to come

it will be your life and I'll be giving you the key and the red book what's the like Asian thing that you give someone instead of a like

this is your life a tiffin a tiffin box. Umbala. Umbala. Box of sweets. Well like a sweet at the end. Yeah. This is your penda. Peru and your jellybee. Thank you for being

so candid and for always, and for being you. Thank you. If you have any questions that you'd like to ask Poppy J about her life, anything about her sex life, anything about what she's into. And again, remember lads, she's still single. Just email us in at browngirlsdoit2 at

bbc.co.uk I'm also dating women as well. Oh yeah, so if there are ladettes and lads, she's open to all. What about non-binaries? And non-binaries, yeah. But it's funny, Poppy as a woman, Poppy who's bicarious likes really girly girls

don't like ladies don't want ladies really what butch lesbians no oh my god that's the only woman

I fancy butch lesbians do you yeah oh wow like Lena Waithe I'm like yeah

I've got Lena Waithe take me out I can't wait to do this episode special on you because I there's so much. I'm quite a surprising character.

I think I know you so well. And then I'm just like, really, Lena? Really? Yeah, Lena Waithe's hot. Okay. Yeah. But you're probably attracted to her brain. Oh, God.

I think I like that she might be able to carry me. Okay. Weirdly what I look for in a partner. Could you carry me if there was a fire? She is attractive. Yeah. fire she's she is attractive yeah but she's not my type I think she probably

kissed quite well she's got nice lips yeah I look out for good lips she's very intelligent and intelligent she's funny intelligent

smart sorry funny intelligence I'm into that it's true for me she's got cool clothes as well oh that's so good

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