Brown Girls Do It Too - This Is Your Life, Rubina

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

It's Rubina's turn to answer questions from Poppy: Who is she? When did she become cool?

bbc sounds music radio podcasts before you listen to us for another 10 seconds we need to warn you that we'll probably be using strong and spicy language in this episode like the indians on the high street using your lamb rogan josh and we'll also be having adult conversations about adult themes but the term is a bit misleading as i don't feel like an adult and i've never looked at poppy and thought my she is so so adult. Adult or adult, who knows? Either way, we're both adults apparently. If you're not, probably a good time to switch over to CBeebies. I love CBeebies.

Do you actually? Yeah, Burner's Watch. Do you actually watch CBeebies? No, CBeebies is not the same. That's for little kids, right? Yeah. What's the thing that you watch from 3.30 to 5? After school.

I mean, that maybe was 10 years ago. Burner's Watch was 10 years ago. Burner's Watch was 10 years ago. Burner's Watch was 25 years ago. Brown girls do it too. Hello! If you didn't know already, and us naked in the thumbnail didn't give it away, this is a sex podcast.

And if you can't tell from our voices, we're actually British Asian babes. We really are. I'm Robina. I'm Poppy. And this is Brown Girls Do It Too. We really are. How does a period spot equate to a dead mosquito carcass? So I said the body had been gone, but I just sat on it. And someone else's blood had happened on the chair.

It wasn't mine. Oh, it was still someone else's blood. Oh, yeah. So someone else's blood, someone else's bum. And the mosquito was the embellishment. You're such a shit liar. And I'm Poppy. I'd like to forget the one time I picked my bogeys

when I was 10 it was all caught on the wedding cam I love this how many fingers did you have out there oh mate all four

like you do with someone's vag it was so bad you were fisting your own nostril I went for a real fisting my left nostril I went for a real dig

wow and I didn't know did you eat it afterwards no I don't I'm not white white people do that I'm sorry I had a I had a three minute podcast from a friend of mine talking to me about Did you eat it afterwards? No, I'm not white. White people do that. I'm sorry.

I had a three-minute podcast from a friend of mine talking to me about bogeys and people eating their bogeys. I'm going to start gagging. I'm not a good kind of gagging. Anyway, let's move on, shall we? So earlier in the series, you may have heard Rubina's in-depth interview with me, but today it is my turn to interview her. Yeah, it's like my worst nightmare, actually, because I don't really like things being all

about me. But I have written some answers. I'm really shy, but the narcissist in me found the moment. So, OK, we did we did sort of through the ages, didn't we? Like this is your life through the ages. So tell me, Rubina, through the ages, what were you like aged seven? Aged seven, I was a total tomboy. I totally idolised my brother. I used to, like, dress like him, mainly because I just got hand-me-down clothes, so that's what happened.

My mum was definitely my best friend. And I thought I was a boy. Yeah, I just had no idea about sex or romantic love. But I also used to line up all my cuddly toys and do like a register for school that my mum,

and I'd be like, Mr. Bear, here on time again, I see. Oh my God. I used to do that with all my 15 cousins. Registers were always just a magical thing.

Registers were, you just want that kind of power and you want people to be present. You want to be like, you're here, aren't you? Did your teacher use like all the different coloured pens? Oh, no.

Oh, red was late, which was every Bengali in the class. Oh, right, right. Zero or free school meals, which was every Bengali in the class. And if you were present, it was blue. Oh, right, nice. Yeah, I remember it like it was yesterday. I did that with my cuddly toys in like a kind of, I clearly had wanted some control slash wanted people to talk to.

So, you know, when you like create imaginary friends and you create. Where was your bro? I mean, he did not want to be my friend. He was like, he's two years older than me. He doesn't want to talk to me really. And I think like I just was quite lonely at seven. But I do have a funny story about setting up. Did you ever do this thing where there's, if there was a gap behind the sofa, you might like turn it into a bit of a den. Yeah. And then I put like a big sheet on it and I was really excited. was like I'm gonna turn it I'm a scientist I was imagining being a

scientist because you know I'm Asian yeah and I was imagining being a scientist and I was gonna I made a sign and it was gonna say you know the place where science happens which I thought was Rubina's lavatory not Rubina's laboratory so I made this sign that said Rubina's lavatory and I hung it on the den. And my mum still finds that hilarious because they decided not to correct me until many family members had been over. And they were like, by the way.

You had your own special toilet. And my own lavatory. Is there anything from the time you were seven that's particularly poignant? Something that you remember that kind of, something that you carry to this day. It didn't have to be that deep. It could be something funny,

but like a, it's just a memory that's crystal clear in your head other than your lavatory. Oh, God. Lavatory. Lavatory was good. No, I used to kind of hang out

with like Sylvanian families. Did you ever play that little game that's like these little plastic bears and then you'd create these families and these like houses. I'm sorry, what sylvanian sylvanian is like the brand i used to play with like little toy bears and give them like little families and like little towns and i remember always being obsessed with this whole idea of like like little boy bear meets little girl bear and has like little bear families and then they were in the little bear car and they

were driving to the little bear house and i was like all i want to be was a small bear i still kind of want to be a small bear yeah well you might you might be able to fulfill those dreams where were your cousins by the way why are you playing by yourself this is why you're Asian you have 52 cousins and counting I think you're lucky though because you had lots of sisters whereas I only had an older brother who didn't want to talk to you exactly so then who would I who was hanging out with and i just i wasn't very good at making friends at seven no way i was very shy i was very quiet so you were a bit of an introvert then probably yeah yeah okay so let's fast forward another seven years so we've gone from sylvanian bear family and your lavatory to what are you

doing when you're 14 talk me through it what are you wearing what do're 14? Talk me through it. What are you wearing? What do you look like? I would say puberty hit me really, really hard. Like, very hard, very quickly. And I grew really quickly so much that I think I'm the only person I know who has stretch marks on their knees. And I'm not kidding, I have stretch marks on my knees. I, like, just went... Yeah.

And, like, got really tall really quickly. Yeah. Got big boobs quite quickly as well, which, you know, like, waking up and, like, being like, oh, boobs, ah. It's like that, it's like the film big you know with tom hanks when he wakes up he's big exactly you wake up and you're like shit i got boobs and stretch marks exactly it was very stressful um i got tall i was like tallest in the class and i fancied all of my brother's friends that's where i was at 14 i I thought, you know, whatever. And I was actually quite creepy because I used to keep photographs of my brother's friends

slash boys at my school that I fancied. I used to cut photographs of them and keep them on me. Raveena, thank God you're a podcaster because in another life you would be a serial killer. I mean, I think I had the kind of foundations to be quite a good serial killer. I think, mate, you've got it nailed. I think it's think I had, I had like the kind of foundations to be quite a good serial killer. I think, mate, you've got it nailed. I think it's because I watched like romantic films

where people would have like pictures of their boyfriends in their wallets and I'd be like, don't have a boyfriend, but I have this cute guy in my pocket. Basically, I was quite creepy

and like I fancied loads of people, but like really unrequited, all unrequited love. I was obsessed with that. Like I'd be like obsessing over people and like imagining, you know, real scenarios of like falling in love in my head, but they didn't even know my name.

And I know this because obviously we've got this play together that we're rehearsing, but you kept a diary, didn't you? Yeah, a diary. When did you start this diary? It's actually really good. I started it when I was 13 and I finished it when I was 18 and I finished it when I was 18.

And I called it The Teenage Years because I thought it would be published and maybe will be in the future. It's total shit. I was reading a lot of like Jane Austen at the time. So I was writing like her in a really whimsical way. And I've heard a couple of excerpts, but what's the general tone? The general tone is like angry, angsty, lonely, horny. So like every other teenager. Yeah, exactly.

It would be so jokes if you were like, would bust out something completely different. But you were like. No, that was it. I mean, like, you know, I had like quite an interesting life, I guess, because I went to mosque on the Fridays and Saturdays. And I had like this mosque life where like I had all the brown friends and the brown people. And then I had school where I had no friends, where nothing was going on.

You did have friends in school, didn't you? I was quite popular at mosque, but not at school. Really? No, not at 14. So who were your friends when you were 14? My mum was still my best friend, I think, probably then. But in school? In school, no, I just didn't have any friends.

I used to go to the library at lunchtime. Oh, wow. Yeah. I didn't actually know this about you. That's why you're interviewing me today, to find these things out about me. Oh, wow. Still waters run deep't actually know this about you. That's why you're interviewing me today, to find these things out about me. Oh, wow. Still waters run deep.

Oh, wow. want to be and I didn't know who I wanted to be then and I wasn't ready to like just make friends with any old person I just wanted to read books yeah honestly and keep photos and have imaginary you know the Netflix film of all the boys I fancied it'd be you in it but like just like a massive pin board with everyone's fucking face it's like everyone yeah um fast forward another seven years 21 it's kind of a seminal year, rite of passage. Yeah. You can drink now. In fact, I turned 21 in Singapore when I was living in Singapore. Wow.

Like by then I'd had my first boyfriend and my first heartbreak. Already? He was bored from school. We fell in love. He came up to Edinburgh like to be with me when I went to university. Is he the guy that wrote an entire album for you? He wrote an entire album about me. He played guitar.

He looked like Heath Ledger. I was like boss. My life had completely changed. I was amazing. But then he broke up with me on Halloween. Oh, really? I know. He said I had a drinking problem.

I shouldn't laugh. If anyone does have a drinking problem, please, there are charities that help you. Yeah, but I was in first year at university and everyone has a drinking problem in first year at university and everyone has a drinking problem in first year at university but he just thought

I'd taken it too far had you taken it too far? well I was like I'm enjoying drinking and being out all the time and I don't need you to hold my also I'm just like

pipe down we're muzzos we only started drinking the other day exactly our kidneys are playing catch up whereas you started when you were 14

and it's probably fucking all crystallised and your pancreas is fucked. I mean, he's made a lot of weed. So, you know, we all had issues. We all have issues. Look, I know we're doing it in like stages, years of seven. But I just want to go back between 14 and 21.

When did you turn cool? Was it 18? I know the moment. I know the moment. Oh my, tell me. I went to Muslim summer camp. So no sentence when someone asks you when you became cool starts with, So I went to Muslim summer camp so no sentence when someone asks you when you became cool

starts with so I went to Muslim summer camp I went to Muslim summer camp I'm not even lying I went to a Muslim summer camp

in the Black Forest in Germany and it was like a week trip and my mum was like you need to go and like get confident

because you're like so shy and you need to go and make friends and I was like I really don't want to go but Muslim summer camp changed me okay that's so okay years later you're doing a sex podcast but it was the Muslim summer

camp it was the Muslim summer camp everything happened there because I turned up and I didn't know anyone there and I thought you know what they don't know who I am I could be anyone so I decided to be somebody else and to this day today I'm still like somebody else. Today, I'm still performing. That's interesting. So did you think that you changed your personality? A hundred percent. I think that summer I was like, oh, hang on. Actually, people are nice and you can be friends with people and you can be like, I don't know.

I think I was maybe a little bit like, I just didn't really understand how to be social. I didn't understand socialization anyway. But then I was trapped in the Black Forest in Germany with strangers and I had to do it. And I had to do it and I had to like do camping and build fires

and stuff and then you know So you adopted this alter ego? Kind of yeah which stuck and then I thought like actually

who am I and kind of wanted to be a bit more wanted to be a bit more social Do you sometimes think back to that Rubina that you lost in that forest

and think fuck her or do you think are you like hello there No she needs to remain lost in that forest She was think, fuck her. What do you think? Are you like, hello there? No, she needs to remain lost in that forest. She was a total loser. Wow, okay, so you're in Singapore.

Yeah. You're on the top of a mountain. You found your new alter ego. It's sticking. This boyfriend who wrote you this album says you have a drinking problem. Go fuck yourself, my friend. And you're living your best life.

And then what happens? And then what happens and then what happens oh right then I mean I was going to say this maybe this is actually not funny I won't say it at all well we'll say it

no I don't know I don't know why I put it in there I was just like but it's a big it's a big moment no is it a big moment can you tell the listeners

we shouldn't laugh I don't know I don't know why I wrote it actually I think it's because I just said at 7 my best friend was my said at seven, my best friend was my mum. And at 14, my best friend was my mum. And at 21, my mum actually had cancer. And so she was still like a good family friend.

What am I saying? She was my mum. I don't know why I wrote that down. I think I was just thinking like... Well, then how did that make you feel? I was living away from home as well. So I was like nowhere near home. And my mum told me on Skype that she had cancer. So I was like nowhere near home. And I like, my mum told me on Skype that she had cancer.

And I was like, breast cancer. And like quite, it wasn't that far advanced. It was quite early on. But I remember thinking like, like I'd kind of left my family behind. And I was like really far away. And then she, yeah, made that announcement. And I was so sad.

It was really horrible. I'm not really sure why I put that down there to mention. Yeah, but it's a moment in your life, right? Yeah. Did you, how was she? Did you have to fly back? No, I didn't actually, because I was that down there to mention. Yeah, but it's a moment in your life, right? Yeah. How was she? Did you have to fly back? No, I didn't actually because I was on my year abroad in Singapore studying at university and she was like, stay out there.

And she did recover. She's in remission. She's been fine for ages. But it was one of those moments where, you know, when you like grow up in the same household and then I was kind of thinking, I just need to get away. And I went to university in Edinburgh, like the furthest place you could go from London. And then when I had a chance to do a year abroad, I went to Singapore, which seems like the furthest way you could go from London and then when I had a chance to do a year abroad I went to Singapore which seems like the furthest way you can go to and then at

the end when that happened I was like shit like I let my family down or I wasn't like around my dad was the test that I probably did really well because I got a place at UCL and didn't go yeah because he wanted you to PC's an Asian dad he wanted you in London stay at home but they're really good unis though yeah I just both are. I just really like uni. Yeah. But you just was like... I had a drinking problem. I'm Morgan Freeman and this is Six Degrees from Jamie and Spencer. You know what, Spen? What? I have pulled out some big names

for our podcast recently. What on earth are you talking about? J-Lo, Morgan Freeman, Samuel Jackson, dare I say more? They came on because, apparently, rumour has it, they love me. You know that they're only talking to you to get to me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Six Degrees from Jamie and Spencer. This has got to be amazing. Only on BBC Sounds. Brown we stay friends too. Beautiful. Six Degrees from Jamie and Spencer. This is going to be amazing. Only on BBC Sounds. Brown girls do it too. So everything was fine with your mum? Yes. You didn't have to come back. She was obviously fine. She's on series

two of the podcast. She's very much here. What happened when you were 28? Fast forward another seven years 28 again I think 28 is a seminal year because you make it past the 27 club

and you feel like I've survived something I'm not dead yet I'm gonna make it and actually I'm never gonna die a rockstar life but by 28

I also came up with another breakup out of like a 5 year relationship it was 100% the most devastating heartbreak I'd ever experienced

and it was like a university boyfriend picked one up at school picked one up at university just pick them up all the time just pick them up just pick them up in educational devastating heartbreak I'd ever experienced and it was like a university boyfriend yeah picked one up at school picked one up at university just pick them up just pick them up just pick them up in educational homes yeah uh and yeah he cheated on me and lied to me uh and I think that experience really left a big mark on me because it was the moment where I was like wow you can really just like love someone and then they can like screw you over just like that yeah and you'd like be really unaware of it so I feel like that left me you can really just love someone and then they can screw you over just like that. And you'd be really unaware of it.

So I feel like that left me with a little nascent paranoia about relationships, where I think now I'm much more like, well, it could end. It could end. Oh, I know we're married, but it could end. Oh, I know we have a kid together, but it could end. I mean, I'm not saying that heartbreak was necessary, but I do feel like when you have heartbreaks at the right time in your life, I have the same attitude. I it will end you're like it could end I'm like it will end

so just enjoy these years yeah yeah yeah yeah I wonder and I wonder if after that experience I became a bit more like hardened yes so now when I meet someone who's like overly romantic or thinks they're you and I you and I always shoot people down I think we had Bella last time we were like get over yourself. Stop being jealous. We are quite hardcore like that. Maybe we've become a bit bitter. But if there was a moment in my life where I'd say I was the most bitter, it was probably 28. I feel like I've mellowed out way more.

But 28, I was like, fuck this. This is bullshit. And it's also, I just, I had to move out of this five-year relationship. So I had nowhere to live. I had to go to my parents' house for a month, which was awful. So I moved straight out into a box room.'s the only thing I could afford because I spent the whole time sharing a room with somebody right now to be like right I've got to figure out how I can do this by myself yeah and it was the most grounding and like fully forming experience

ever because I think if you've never been dumped I kind of don't respect you if you've never been dumped I'm like you don't know what that's like you do you do you not respect me because I've never been dumped no but you've, you don't know what that's like. Do you not respect me because I've never been dumped? No, but you've come out of a 10 year relationship. So you know what heartbreak is like. I guess that's what I mean. Like a heartbreak. If you've never had like a moment to be like, I was with somebody and I had thought my life was going in one direction.

You think your DNA is their DNA. Exactly. And also you're quite smug when you're in a relationship and you're like, yeah, everything's fine. Everything's great. And then that happens and you're like, oh, I'm never going to be smug again. I'll never ever count my chickens like that again so that was a grounding experience for you yeah yeah and it's also the year that I got massively into dating apps and slept around

a lot at 28 28 was like a strong sleeper yeah you it was a rebirth of another Rubina another alter ego yeah another alter ego yeah it's really a dating profile that's kind of like your your ego yeah coming through. Yeah. I don't know who she was. She was quite sassy. Is she still? I think she's still pretty sassy, babe.

She's still fucking there, mate. Don't worry about it. But maybe the ultimate thing that you turn into is like pieces of your... Yes, of all the bits of fragments of your personality. Yeah, because like,

you know, Rubina's lavatory is somewhere still in there. The Black Forest girl is like, hey. Hey. In the forest. Ooh yeah and it was like the last time I remember being like single and happy and fulfilled and

confident and just like myself I think and then so you were dating um being an absolute slut bag looking for a boyfriend not looking for a boyfriend not looking for a boyfriend looking for a good boy to be my friend that night but nothing else absolutely nothing else I used to like mostly go on dates and um really early on like I'd go on dates and be like yeah there's a vibe there's definitely a vibe and then like wait till we snogged either I'd instigate or they would and straight after the first snog I'd be like I'm not looking for anything serious though that was like my game oh my god all the time hook line sinker they're not into that man they're so into that and then you'd be like I literally told do that all the time. Hook, line, sinker. They're not into that, man. They're so into that. And then you'd be like,

I literally told you that I wasn't looking for anything. Like, why are you calling me the next day? I'm literally doing that right now. And the moment you say that, they're like, marry me. It's like, oh, go fuck yourself. Do you have any regrets?

I feel like I have, my regrets are all about like people that I was a bit shit to. Like I think my teenagers, I was really shit to my mum. I didn't make massive effort with like family members, like my cousins. I feel like I could have teenagers I was really shit to my mum uh I didn't make massive effort with like family members like my cousins I feel like I could have been a bit more like present but you're too busy being an introvert and in your lavatory and in my head yeah it's I was too busy

living in my head that I wasn't kind of connecting with people well I think I just let that that period of living in my head go on for too long yeah I really weird similarities between us I I mean I had loads of friends and I was an extrovert but I also lived in my head a lot I had like a full-time job living in my head I think that serves us well yeah I think you have an imagination you're creative you sort of know yourself I don't know yeah no for sure I think I mean like everyone has their like inner selves in there their performance yeah yeah yeah it's just doing this episode just made me realize that like actually they're probably a little bit closer than I thought yeah rather than like the podcast me and like me yeah yeah and what about

friends have you kept in touch with any school friends or uni friends or yeah I've got like a really good group of school friends and a really smaller group of university friends I found university quite hard actually yeah um like I'm sure everybody does but why did you I thought most people find it easy but why did you I thought most people find it easy but why did you find it hard because you have to like drink every day

and throw up every day but you had a drinking problem yeah I had a drinking problem so why was that difficult for you you actually cannot

go into that much it's not funny to have a drinking problem again if you have I used to just drink a lot but actually looking

back I used to drink like considering how much I drink now I'm like wow that person used to may you are a light weight I am a light weight

you drink three and you are like hashtag hashtag white girl wasted. I turn into you sober when you are drunk. And when you're three drinks in, that's me sober every day. It's true. I think I turn into Frankie Boyle when I'm really drunk. Like a little bit offensive. And I'm like, oh, that's offensive.

I think the production team got a taste of it when we were in Edinburgh the other day. And they were just making really unsavoury jokes and they were like you can't say that you can't say that yeah but do you have any regrets over your sort of well A your experience at uni

I know we're going back seven years but like losing losing contact with friends because for example I my oldest friend is probably

from when I was 16, 17 I don't it's almost like my life doesn't exist before the age of 16 I don't have any contact with any friends

yeah I've got well I've got a really good friend who I've known since I was born who I went to mosque with okay

and there's nothing more grounding than hanging out with her because I'm like oh yeah that's what I was like I was a total idiot and actually

I lie she was always in the background somewhere even when I was in the library and alone okay she was always around she was always around

yeah and going back to your uh rediscovering your vag and having this you know sexual liberation this moment yeah what what did you what did you want from your sexual partners and we obviously know you're ammo we obviously know you'd kiss them and be like nahi um but like what do you did you just want a good fuck did you want a second third date did you want spoons in a fuck a bit netflix oh well when i was like single and just sleeping around all i wanted was like sex that felt like you know when you suspend disbelief at the cinema when you're like really into the movie you're like i'm just so focused on this there's like nothing

could distract me that's what i would look for in sex. And actually, like, really good compatibility for me sexually is somebody who just, like, totally is like, yeah, has like wild abandoning, like gives themselves up to it. And is like not afraid to just be like really raw with me. Because I feel like I've had sex with people who have been like quite... You have rote repetition sex. Yeah. Paint by numbers sex. Exactly.

Or someone who's like just a bit more like nervous or anxious and like because they've got a bit of anxious energy it kind of slows you down yeah or somebody who's just like fuck it we're fucking it doesn't matter

like we're just gonna do this like that is the best but you know they're really difficult to find yeah this guy I'm seeing the one that keeps coming up like that's what I have with him

and it's so hard to walk away from that kind of sex oh my god yeah because most sex and I'm guilty of this it's paint by I'm doing paint by number six

to me to you backward bend, legs in the air, and isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So define that. Define that. Did you find that sort of amazing compatibility sex or were they all paint by numbers?

No, I'm literally with the person who is the best sex in my life. So yeah, like, and also when I met the person that I'm with now, I was like, oh no, the sex is too good. This is never going to last. This is like, this is like the best sex of your life that you talk about when you're older yeah um and I was like this is just casual this is just is that what you said to him I mean I said that to him for like

a year oh my god and because like I guess because he knew that I wasn't really ready for relationship he just like waited till I was wow um but yeah still the best sex of my life still the person who kind of does it with wild abandon in that way that makes you be like, yes, this is great. You're like genuinely enjoying yourself. And that makes me really enjoy myself. And also the best tongue kisser I've ever had. Kissing with tongues. You recently discovered that you can come from SEMA, that you could kiss.

SEMA made me cum. Yeah, SEMA made us both cum. That you could come from just kissing. So tongue is a real tongue is so good and actually like I'm having sex with the same person and have been doing for god almost seven years and um I would say that we kiss all the time because we're you know hi hi goodbye you know all that um but we we kiss with tongue when we're about to make love really yeah yeah and I'm like oh it's on yeah, it's on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's on. Sometimes you find that you do kiss, which is, and then tongue. Then you have to reach, and then you're both getting horny. And then you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've got to send an email. So can you just hold out? Because sometimes you could just feel yourself getting a bit like, ooh. But tongue kisses are good to be like, I'm going to get you later.

Okay. Right. Give them a little start. Exactly. I love a good tongue kiss. Tongue kissing is, I think, is the gateway to fucking. Tongue kissing is just so fucking good. Yeah.

And also what I like about it is it's not about being heterosexual, is it? Because I feel like I could tongue kiss anyone. Yeah. Like a tongue is a tongue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like it's all about lips and tongue and like how those things work together. Oh, yeah. I'm actually just really into mouths.

Yeah, I'm into mouths and different types of kissing and speed of kissing. And I've been thinking a lot recently about like my son and how he's, all he does when he sees things is like put shit in his mouth. He's seven months old. So he'll see something and he'll be like, ooh, ooh, ooh. And I'll be like, got everything. Everything is about your mouth. But my partner recently said to me, it was like, yeah, that oral fixation never stops.

It never stops. You're a baby and you start to put everything in your mouth and you're an adult and all you want to do is like smoke, drink, fidget. Everything is about your mouth. Put a baby and you start to put everything in your mouth and you're an adult and all you want to do is like smoke, drink, fidget. Everything is about your mouth. Put cock in your mouth. Put your cock in your mouth. I actually don't want to put cock in my mouth

because I don't really like giving blowjobs but for most people. Oh yeah, no, I love blowjobs. Yeah, and I think it's part of the oral fixation because you just want to like. So we've covered this but I feel like we need to really unpack this now. Do you think you're good in bed?

Yeah, I think I am pretty good in bed I'm quite generous yes I've changed the pace up you are generous I mean I know I'm Charlotte tried to teach us taking without giving and the concept was really difficult for us to get our head around yeah but no I think I think if someone goes down on me I will always go down on them okay yeah I would never just you know be like yeah that's fine I'm not gonna do it to you and I think I'm quite good at switching up the pace which helps like sweep things up slow things down sweeping up sweeping up you know yeah so Rubina if you could give your seven-year-old self one piece of advice in 140 characters what would it be buy shares in Apple I feel like I kind of wish I told my younger self lots of things mainly about like making money or like being cooler like knowing and I'm so Indian

I am I'm Indian I mean I'm not ashamed I'm not ashamed yeah I'm a little bit ashamed um I think I would tell my younger self to like just be happy with the body that you have because I feel like I spent so long like through my teenage years getting to the 20s like just trying happy with the body that you have because i feel like i spent so long like through my teenage years getting to the 20s like just trying to always fix it always trying to do other things with it and actually like each stage of my body which has changed i've had a baby things have changed just to like be happy in that moment of like what you have and just be great for your body yeah but also buy shares an apple brown girls do it too let's play the quick fire fuck game from season 2

I know that's animal hospital you know doggy or missionary missionary really yeah I'm not judging you I mean it felt like you were

actually I was a bit I was a bit and I was like Bobby I was like Bobby I was like Bobby Did you just sex shame me on my own sex podcast How

It was a second and I and I redacted and I took it back Pubes or no pubes Pubes Lights on or lights off Lights on

Spit or swallow No that one Oh yeah It's definitely spit I just didn't let anyone come in my mouth as we've discussed You tried it

You tried it And it was like You dribbled half of it And some of it Went into the glass I remember No I had a glass of water It was your task

For season two Because I didn't want to swallow Yeah And I still never want to swallow Okay cool Or spit I don't want it to come in my mouth Okay well

You made it clear You know it's up to you Porn or no porn I would say porn But ethical Good porn That you pay for You've got to pay for your porn

If you want to watch porn Just pay for it good porn that you pay for. You've got to pay for your porn. If you want to watch porn, just pay for it. Good porn as well. Lube it up or natural juices? Lube it up. Hand job or foot job? I always get confused with this. Oh, yeah.

It was a hand job with your hand or a foot job with your feet. On a dick. Feet on a dick. Feet on a dick. I think I'd be all right to do feet on a dick. Foot job. Foot job? Okay, cool.

I wouldn't go then, not with my bunions Give head or get head I'm feeling generous today so I'm going to say give head But I do believe in equality in a relationship so both Quickie in the toilet or quickie in the park Park probably No you don't want to do it in the park Because twigs and trees And rocks and things will get in the way

Yeah but you can get herpes from a toilet seat. I'm sorry, how the fuck are you having sex with someone on the toilet? You bend, you hold the bar. I'm just saying, toilets are dirty places. No. Full of herpes. You're not doing it on the toilet. You're just bending over. Yeah, but you're touching. You're in the space where herpes

existed, where somebody has done a piss. Actually, people piss in the park too, so who knows. So what were you going with then? Park. Park. And that was your quick fire fuck game round. And that's all we've got time for today. How did you feel about doing a version of This Is Your Life?

It was all right. I realise I'm quite socially awkward, so that whole thing just felt quite awkward. But maybe it wasn't. Yeah, was it awkward? Absolutely not. Oh my God, oh my God, I've got it. I've nailed it.

You don't need therapy. Black Forest Rubina is still in you because that was Black Forest Rubina. She's coming out. She's coming out. That was not awkward at all. It was wonderful to learn all this about you and you came across fine. But that moment, what you just said there, she's gunning for you, man. She's still in there.

Don't worry. The lavatory one and that one. They ain't going anytime soon i suppose it's it's it feels weird it probably feels weird for you because usually when we're talking we're talking about each other we're asking each other questions but i suppose when the spotlight you're quite good at asking questions though poppy you've got you're like a pro yeah but you were a pro with me no i wasn't i was awkward just didn't know bye black forest rapina goes back to the forest um if you have any other questions you'd like us to answer do email us at brown girls do it too at bbc.co.uk and please please please do subscribe to the podcast

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