BTC Sessions - A Comedian’s Thoughts On Politics, Culture, and Bitcoin | Robbie Bernstein
Episode Date: August 5, 2025Mentor Sessions Ep. 023: Robbie Bernstein on Bitcoin vs. Government, Trump Fiscal Policy, Decentralization & Media CollapseWhat if Bitcoin is the ultimate Trojan horse against government overreach..., Trump’s chaotic fiscal policy, and dying centralized media? In this unfiltered Mentor Sessions interview, comedian and podcaster Robbie Bernstein (Run Your Mouth, Part of the Problem) torches the status quo, exposing how currency manipulation erodes personal responsibility, why decentralization is killing mainstream media, and Bitcoin’s role as a defiant asset in a fiat nightmare. From Epstein conspiracies to Porch Tour tales, Robbie unpacks Trump’s tariffs, government corruption, and why comedy is the new truth serum. Hesitant on Bitcoin? Robbie reveals his 40% net worth bet and how it defunds endless inflation. Dive into this wild ride blending Bitcoin, Trump, government scams, decentralization, media death, Epstein intrigue, currency wars, fiscal policy fails, Porch Tour antics, and razor-sharp comedy—essential for escaping the matrix!Chapters:• 00:00:00 - Intro• 00:01:06 - Wild Open: Epstein, Bitcoin Price & Final Solutions JokeHumor hits hard with Epstein lists, Bitcoin forecasts, and satirical takes.• 00:02:15 - Politics Realignment: Trump vs. DemocratsDiscussing Trump's declining popularity and why he's still the better option.• 00:03:18 - Porch Tour Tales: Meeting America's Autistic FansRobbie shares road stories from his unique backyard comedy tour.• 00:03:48 - Trump Critique: Fiscal Policy, Tariffs & Central PlanningBreaking down Trump's nightmares on economy, wars, and factory jobs obsession.• 00:06:15 - Bitcoin Voting Bloc: Why Root for Trump?How Bitcoiners influenced politics and Trump's pro-Bitcoin promises.• 00:08:08 - Currency Wars: Highlander Analogy & Bitcoin Trojan HorseBitcoin as the one true currency driving out fiat, with stablecoins' role.• 00:11:47 - Comedians as Truth Tellers: Covid & Media DeathWhy comics outperform journalists, plus Overton window shifts post-Covid.• 00:13:36 - Epstein Deep Dive: Trump’s Handling & Elite BlackmailUnpacking the Epstein saga, Trump's fumble, and intelligence ties.• 00:18:30 - Decentralization Beauty: Media & Culture ShiftsHow media decentralization empowers ideas, with Bitcoin parallels.• 00:24:44 - Comedy Roots: Politics, Upbringing & SkepticismRobbie's journey from comedy to politics, influenced by 2008 crisis.• 00:32:02 - Batshit Conspiracies: Aliens, UFOs & Sorting TruthWild theories on aliens, government lies, and incentive structures.• 00:40:53 - Debt Awareness: $37T Hole & Bitcoin ContrarianismPublic ignorance on debt, plus Robbie's 40% Bitcoin allocation.• 00:52:44 - Wrap-Up: Best Sandwiches, Comedians & Porch Tour PromoFood favorites, inspiring comics, and invites to Robbie's events.About Robbie Bernstein:Comedian & Podcaster, Run Your Mouth & Part of the ProblemX: @robbiethefireWebsite: porchtour.com⚡ POWERED by @Sazmining — the easiest way to mine Bitcoin and take control of your financial future. ⛏️You own the rig 🌍 It runs on clean energy 🔐 You get cheap Bitcoin BELOW Exchange Cost Start stacking wild sats today: 👉 https://qrco.de/bg8Jwq 📚 FREE Bitcoin Book Giveaway: New to Bitcoin? Get Magic Internet Money by Jesse Berger FREE! 👉 Click: bitcoinmentororange.com/magic-internet-money 💡BOOK Private Sessions with Bitcoin Mentor: Master self-custody, hardware, multisig, Lightning, privacy, and more. 👉 Visit bitcoinmentor.io Follow Us on X:• BTC Sessions: @BTCsessions• Nathan: @theBTCmentor• Gary: @GaryLeeNYCCheck out Luke Gromen on Bitcoin, Dollar Devaluation, and Global Power Shifts: Watch here https://youtu.be/E_dg03MXJIU#Bitcoin #Trump #Decentralization #Media #Epstein #Currency #FiscalPolicy #PorchTour #Comedy #BTCSessions #RobbieBernstein #RunYourMouth #PartOfTheProblem #BitcoinPodcast #BitcoinEducation #Podcast #Crypto #MentorSessions
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People don't want to be responsible for their own choices.
And that's one of the worst things about what government does with currency.
I think currency is, it's a little bit like Highlander where there can only be one.
And I feel like the decentralization of the media is one of the most beautiful stories of decentralization.
Mainstream media is now dead.
It's just dead.
Those are the things that Trump's better on.
He's terrible on fiscal policy.
I happen to have gotten lucky that I bought in early.
I probably have 40% of my net worth in Bitcoin.
Politicians corrupt.
Personal responsibility, gone. Bitcoin, while some are betting big and winning.
Today we're sitting down with Robbie the Fire Bernstein, host of the Run Your Mouth podcast
and comedian torching the status quo one porch at a time. In this unfiltered interview,
Robbie unleashes on how the government screws us, why centralized media is dying,
and why some people are still hesitant on Bitcoin. But not his audience, they're demanding
he accepted his payment. I'm not going to lie, things get a little bit wild. We also touch on
Epstein, Highlander, and alien invasions. Going beyond Bitcoin to bring you the skills and
insights you need to escape the Fiat matrix, this is Mentor Sessions.
Robbie the Fire, Bernstein, thank you so much for joining us. Let's just start right off.
We all know that the only source of reliable truth and news these days are comedians.
So, number one, who was on the Epstein list and why was it not shown to us?
Number two, what will be the price of Bitcoin on Labor Day?
And a little bit of a softball question, Israel's Palestinian problem. What's the final solution?
Well, you know, I'm happy that you fronted me with the ability to come up with the final solution because what I don't like in life is when I put forth my agenda and people think that it's just like early stages. So I like that you're teeing me up with what I'm saying is the final solution. That makes me feel better that people are actually accounting for my words and that they're going to enact it exactly the way that I say it. As for exact Bitcoin pricing, I did spend time on Epstein's Island and they had some very interesting charts for how they were implementing
Bitcoin in trying to sucker the entire internet into purchasing it.
And then at some point, they would crash out to force everyone back onto the United States currency.
But that's not, that's post-Labor Day.
So you're good for now.
Got you.
Keep buying.
Ride that wave.
In all seriousness, what do you think is going on with politics?
Because I was listening to your show this morning, you and Dave.
And you guys are talking about how Dave made an observation that, you know, Trump's
His approval rating was decreasing, but there wasn't the converse increase on the Democrat side.
You know, usually team red goes down, team blue goes up, team blue goes up, red goes down and vice versa, all that.
Is it too much to say that there might be a realignment out there?
And if not, what are you seeing on the ground?
I mean, you're out through the porch door.
You're talking to real people.
I'm here in like, you know, the stupid insular tri-state area where, you know, we all think everything stops at the, you know, the Hudson.
Yeah.
Well, I do travel the country.
I perform on front lawns, back lawns,
and I seem to meet the same 40-year-old,
moderately autistic,
a guy who has a girlfriend that's too hot from him
and really likes drinking, even though he has a career.
So I seem to reach a lot of the same people,
even though I travel the entire country
to meet the exact same person.
With that said, yeah, you know,
the Democrats are just so bad
that it doesn't matter how bad Trump messes up right now.
He's still just the better option.
So like even as you watch the news now and he's doing, you know, I called it before he got into
like office. I said, listen, he's going to be better on the border and he might be better
on wars, but he's not going to be better on Israel. It's a coin toss on Russia, Ukraine, but he's
really, I mean, dude, it's nice to be rid of the woke stuff and it's nice to be rid of
internet censorship. Those are things that Trump's better on. He's terrible on fiscal policy.
I mean, he's a nightmare. The tariffs, I mean, listen, it's not, it's actually not favorable.
because people are pretty obsessed with that Trump's going to return, you know, your factory job.
People seem to really like central planning when it's coming from Trump.
And they seem to really buy into the ideas of central planning as long as it's Trump doing the Senate.
If it's Biden's windmills, they don't like it.
But if it's Trump's factory jobs, they're all bought in on central planning.
The tariffs are chaotic.
We'll find out what's actually been implemented.
It's amazing the way Trump can go, I had the greatest deal.
And then you turn around to read the news and the last.
Like, yeah, no one's reported on any of the details yet, nor has anyone actually agreed to this.
So on the tariffs, who the hell knows what's happening?
And the fact that in this environment, all he wants is lower interest rates is cartoonishly stupid.
But it doesn't matter because these things are, like, if the entire system, if we end up with like some asset bubbles actually popping under Trump, people will blame Trump unless that happens.
You know, people just aren't aware enough of the economy.
It's just kind of like when assets, if an asset bubble pops, like, it doesn't matter who caused it.
It's who's in office that's being blamed.
It could be policy from 25, 30, 40 years ago.
You can blame it on Nixon for going after the gold standard.
No one cares.
It's whoever's in office right now that's going to be taking the blame for it.
But outside of that, the Democrats are just so stupid.
And not only are they so stupid, they lied to the American people on so many big topics for so long.
And they don't have any talent on the bench right now that can motivate people.
or sell you on that they're worth backing.
So despite the chaos of Trump, he's still just, you know,
every once in a while, Kamala Harris or Biden re-peaks their head.
And you're like, that's right.
That's why I voted for Trump.
Like I was hating what was going on.
And I just needed the reminder of this is the other thing that's out there.
And you actually did vote for Trump.
No, I don't, I didn't show up to vote.
I don't want to fail a fault for this.
Hey, man.
Yeah, this is many elections I didn't show up to vote either.
So I don't blame you at all, man.
I was quietly rooting for Trump because I wanted Kamala Harris to lose.
And like I said, there's aspects that actually, like, affect my life.
I mean, like, the woke censorship stuff, I was censored quite a bit.
I also felt like with Bitcoin, which is interesting, traditionally there's voting blocks
that will get the support of the president and essentially to bribe them for their vote.
I felt like for the first time I actually had an, like usually I don't really own stocks.
I don't own a house.
And usually the fed's propping up those assets.
It doesn't really help me.
Or they're creating favorable policies for individuals that are not.
me. Donald Trump, he's the first president that ever came along and said, hey, this asset
Bitcoin that you own, I'll make sure that the government doesn't ban it. So there were reasons that
I was rooting for Trump, but there was enough that I don't like about him that I wasn't going to
show up and actually feel like I'm responsible for Donald Trump. Totally, totally fair.
Yeah, Nate, you wanted to jump in there? No, I was going to say, yeah, there were a lot of libertarians
and Bitconers that did vote for Trump. I think it was the lesser of two evils, and there was a few
things that he was offering up. So like, again, I'm in Canada, so I couldn't have voted, but maybe
if I was down there could have snuck it and got it in ballot. Probably still could have.
You could have been a corpse. That's all you got to do. You could have done that in the last election
or just pretend like you're coming in from the southern border, not the northern border. You can vote
no problem. So I've heard. I think that would be the best way to go perhaps next time. But the
like I would have had I been in that position, I would have voted just to get Ross out. And he
actually did do that. He actually did do that. And that was the only one like, okay,
you've got me. That's an emotional poll. I would absolutely go for that. I'm just
curious to even looking now in hindsight, do you think that was the best strategy for the libertarians
and kind of bitcoiners to throw their support behind Trump? Is that like should they be acting as a voting
block or are they different paths to maybe getting the policies or even ideas that we want out there
accomplished? Well, I think if you're a single issue Bitcoin voter, I'm just saying is a theoretical
if that's your single issue and all you care about is, uh, and listen, there's a real argument there
of Trojan-horcing Bitcoin of that. You guys, this is a heavy crypto.
their show, right? Yeah.
This is, yeah, all Bitcoin. That's all it is.
Okay, got it, got it. So there's a real
argument, and I'm a fan of
Safedine Amuse. I don't know if you guys have
read this stuff. Okay. We just talked to his brother.
There you go. I'm in the right place here.
I think currency is, it's a little bit like
Highlander where there can only be one,
and you just have like, what is it,
Say's Law, Moore's Law, good, chase out bad, I don't know.
I'm not that good with the economy stuff.
But the point is,
there really is only, if one
One currency actually retains its value and everyone realizes, hey, I want this currency, it will drive out other currencies.
And so the fact that we've kind of Trojan horse Bitcoin that the current administration is not just not outlawing it, but seems to be flirting with the idea of a reserve.
Now they're backing stable coins, which just kind of, I'm sure you guys might not like them, but they do make Bitcoin access and bring more people to the marketplace.
so it's probably actually long,
that's a good,
I think that's a good environment for Bitcoin.
So if you're a single issue voter
and you think, hey,
the way out of this operation
is by everyone opting into this better currency
and defunding government
because they can't just endlessly
steal our wealth through inflation,
then amidst the choices of Kamala Harris
that might have had an unfavorable regulatory environment
for Bitcoin versus Trump,
who has at least signaled for
the duration of his administration,
they're not going to mess with it.
And if anything,
making moves to back it,
I think that's probably why more of the banks
and, you know,
your pension funds and it seems like
more of a climate that's accepting of it,
which then could be the thing
that ultimately undermines the U.S. currency.
I'm not sure I'm that bought into that storyline,
but I'm just saying if you're a single issue
voter for Bitcoin,
I think Trump over Kamala Harris was an obvious pick.
I think that's the hope
among many of us in the Bitcoin space,
even people kind of tangentially in the Bitcoin space,
that's what happens.
You know,
the government can no longer just print money
to do all the horrible things
are actually constrained by real world economics.
On the Highlander metaphor,
where are we?
Is Sean Connery still alive
in this battle for currencies?
Are we down to Christopher Lambert and the Kergan?
Tell me where we are in this storyline.
I wish I was enough of a nerd to have watched that movie
other than when I was eight years old
and just loving the concept of
taking some guy's power by slicing off his head and that the more people he had killed and
sliced off their heads, the more powerful he was.
Yes.
But I'm going to say that whatever Donald Trump's stupid cryptocurrency is.
And, you know, like those are the big guns.
I guess you got to, if you can take out Ethereum and whatever else, I don't know.
Yeah.
No, very good.
All right.
I'm disappointed that you didn't step up with the Highlander stuff.
It's okay.
You can rewatch it and, you know, fully complete this.
circle there, so to speak.
I didn't even put together in my mind that that was Sean Connery in that movie.
No?
Yeah, I watched when I was eight.
I just remember someone had a stupid long haircut, and I got to watch a couple people
get their head sliced off.
I think that's about all I remember.
You know, I think the movie is still rewatchable.
It's never going to be like a four-star masterpiece, but very rewatchable.
Was there a whole series out of it or was just one dumb movie?
They did, I mean, we should even be talking Bitcoin.
Highlander is much more interesting.
They did Highlander, and they did Highlander 2, The Quickening.
which was not good.
They did a Highlander 3 and a Highlander TV series.
It's funny when you run out of it
and then they got to change the story
to some of them manage to regrow their heads.
You know what it's like
when they just keep something running too long
and they kill off a bad guy
and they realize the story's not interesting without him
so they got to figure out how to bring him back.
Nate, I think this is it.
We were looking for extra content beyond podcast.
I think we've got to do like a Bitcoin Highlander series
like a web series or something.
I think it'd make a great Highlander.
Gary. I think you do a wonderful job in that role.
Speaking of the importance of art and culture there, guys.
I'm curious to,
so, Robbie, one of the things I was thinking about in preparation for this, too,
is like you were really, really good on COVID.
And I even just go into the opening question just that we threw out there,
is that it's so weird that we've landed in a position
where comedians legitimately are a better source of information,
like that than the vast majority of academia and journalists out there.
I'm curious from your position,
what kind of, I guess, bums me out for lack of a better term, is that I really anticipated by now and even with everything still going on, like the conflict, the brief conflict with Iran and then the Epstein list not being released, I would have thought that we would have kind of learned the lessons and kind of hit that pitchfork phase at some point in time, but it seems like everybody's just going right back to sleep. So even just from your view, especially being so involved in news, pre and kind of post-COVID, are things any better in terms of moving that Overton window? Or are we really just kind of
the same place or maybe even worse.
All right. Well, in terms of pitchforks, it's the old adage of it's the economy stupid.
And as long as people are employed and their lives are relatively stable and pretty good,
they're not grabbing the pitchforks.
And I think that's part of the sell of what took place even with COVID was that they
sent checks directly to people's doors.
And I think without that, they probably wouldn't have had the same level of compliance.
What's very different about the current landscape and some of these things you just forget,
But for one, mainstream media is now dead.
It's just dead.
They cannot sell storylines the way that they used to be able to sell storylines.
They just can't.
Nobody's turning into CNN or these other outlets and just taking it as gospel.
Now, Trump has not quite been the grand savior that everyone thought that he would be.
My general takeaway from the Epstein story is that either, you know, Trump's name,
And, yeah, like, listen, I don't think Trump was a pedophile, but I don't know.
I also can't say for certain that Epstein was a Mossad or CIA agent and that there was actual
seven or eight-year-old pet.
No one knows.
It's everyone's best bet is that essentially he was blackmailing the elites on behalf of
intelligence agencies and most likely so that, you know, they can ensure that there was more
war or more support for Israel.
This is just everyone's basically their best guess.
Now, Trump is usually the best at the media cycle and he just blew that story.
should have run out the clock.
For some reason, he wasn't interested in it.
It could be that he was front-running the fact that he knew that the media was going
to start reporting that his name appeared in it.
But even that, everyone's just a guess of what's in there.
I'm guessing on Trump, it's just like, listen, he's got goofy things going on in the
cryptocurrency space.
His kids are wheeling and dealing with the hotels.
Mara Lago memberships are up.
I don't think he wants to leave office and have the entire deep state going after him once
again.
And I think now that he's in power while everyone was all.
excited of, oh, this is the righteous Donald Trump, and he's going to do right by the American
people, I think Donald Trump, he'll cut deals and the deals he'll cut is with the deep state,
all right? They offered him the best deal. And so he sat down and he said, hey, I don't want to
take this thing on. And so he's essentially just brushing it under the rug. But Donald Trump
is still just a rebuke of a lot of the old establishment. It's not quite a cleansing of the
swamp or, you know what I mean? It's not, it's not the heroic thing that we all expected,
but it still is a change in landscape, just having him there and that he's not. He's not,
he's not censoring the internet and he's not pushing woke culture and he's not pushing green
energy scams and the whole ESG thing. He's got to, like, listen, he's, he's kind of socialist
in his own way and that he's trying to bring back U.S. manufacturing. It's just a different version
of central planning. Well, I guess we'll kind of see how that plays out. But anyways, we're in a
different environment than that we were pre-Trump. We're not being lied to by the woke left in the
same way because they don't have anyone to sell it and no one's watching the television networks.
So I do think that it's a changed environment.
In terms of the masses, you know, charging up against the elites,
I think you're going to need a financial collapse before you'll see anything like that
happened.
No, one can only dream.
Actually, want to tease out two things there.
One, you're right, because when Trump, he's like, Gary, when Trump on the Epstein thing
was just, Gary, you're muted.
You are, buddy.
Trump on the Epstein thing was so out of character in the sense that he's really good
with a crowd, he's really good on a mic, he's unbelievably persuasive. And so when it first happened,
my initial instinct was this is a distraction, that there's something else they don't want us to look at,
because he's never this bad on the topic. He can suck the oxygen out of a room and direct it exactly
where he wants to go. That's how he got to where he is. So it felt like this was in some way
dishonest, but I'm even wondering in hindsight with cutting a deal with the idea of cutting a deal with
the deep state if he's just phoning it in because perhaps it really isn't even necessarily
his position, but he's made his choice.
think he sniffed too many of his own farts and he got high on his own supply and he's like,
I tricked these people into thinking my terrorists were a good idea. I've tricked them in,
you know what I mean? And I think he just thought, hey, my base is so supportive of me that
if I tell you, hey, this thing is just a hoax and we're moving on from it and don't listen to
the liberal media trying to tell you they don't care about this thing. They're just going to use it
to bog down the other agenda, which is me helping you out. I think he thought that the base was
going to buy that and he's a little bit surprised by that this was the this was the line in the
sand that people would fall that would follow him blindly anywhere were like no you're not going to
tell me that that was nothing it was a little bit too much of the two plus two is five i think most
people to swallow like we've been seeing it for so long but that's that's an interesting take
and the other thing that i want to comment on and kind of get your thoughts on was i agree that like
corporate media is is dead or dying like it's on its way out there's no audience anymore but i wonder
of it kind of cuts as a double-edged sword. So the idea I had was that, one, now you can have all
these new ideas or even old ideas that are resurging and kind of gaining in popularity. You have all
these voices and people participating in the market. But kind of as a result, it means that we're
all off in our little niche kind of area of the internet, our little fandom, a little area that
we're hanging out. And so I wonder if that in some ways kind of limits how hard we can push these things.
Like even specifically thinking about the libertarian ideas, like you have Tucker and you have Joe
Rogan even touching on them from time to time, but it still doesn't really seem to permeate.
And I wonder if it's because we're beyond the point of, to take like a musical example,
we're never really going to have a superstar like Madonna or Michael Jackson again because
there's not one channel and one radio and one MTV. It's everyone's off in their own little corner,
which means moving everyone in a direction culturally is maybe next to impossible at this point.
There's a lot there that I'd have to, I'd have to digest and think about it. But for one, I think
I mean, especially
it's just a fan of
let's go, just Bitcoin.
I know, I'm not supposed to say
crypto, but you've got to be a fan
of decentralization.
And I feel like the decentralization
of the media is one of the most beautiful
stories of decentralization
because it's like in the past,
in the comedy space on television,
there was one time
when it was Johnny Carson and Johnny Carson only, right?
And he was probably making, let's just say,
I don't know, maybe $20 million a year.
How many people are making a living now
off of creating their own comedy content?
I'm not talking rich,
but I'm just saying how much.
In a different environment,
I mean, not that I'm rich from podcasting.
I make some money podcasting,
but there was a time I just couldn't have done this.
So just in theory,
I feel like the decentralization of the media is,
it's such a great storyline.
And maybe that might actually awaken some people
to getting regulation out of other spaces,
because that's the real story of how does everyone have wealth?
It's you get rid of government,
which is what's actually protected,
creating the protectionist policies.
I like to just summarize it as elites don't like to compete.
And everyone's all afraid that corporations are coming for you.
And what they don't realize is that governments the tool by which they then can just steal
from you as opposed to having to actually create value in order to, the only way that,
in an honest market, the only way that anyone ever gets your money is if they give something
of value to you.
The only thing that distorts that equation is the government stepping in with force,
which then means that people can extract wealth from you without actually
you know, giving you good services or something that's of value.
And then competitively, whatever is actually the best of value.
I have horrible ADD.
What the hell did you ask me?
It's funny.
You answered it beautifully.
And you actually made me reflect on one point, too, because you're absolutely right.
And decentralization, particularly with information or money is the best way to go.
I wonder if in my own kind of thinking about that is I'm just too, my timeline's too short
and long of time preference.
People are bigger now than ever, though.
Like, even in your examples, Taylor Swift with zero appeal to me, she's got to be the biggest ever.
And if you look at how many comedians now are filling up stadiums, it's more than ever did it at any other point in time.
So if anything, it feels like more people are like, I don't, you know, you might have a point that people don't move in mass in the same way.
Like, maybe you're not going to have grunge music.
But, like, I bet if we were actually alive, I mean, I was.
I was in like eighth grade, but I was like a tail end of grunge.
But while you might look back at that and see that as a movement,
how many people were still listening to classic rock and how many people weren't,
you know what I mean?
So my guess is you,
I bet if you actually looked at the analytics,
this is very autistic,
although it feels like people don't move in mass because it's almost the media
doesn't report to you on like,
here's a movement of whatever.
I bet there's more people engaged with like specific,
like, for example,
kill Tony.
I bet in like a comedy central era,
you might have pointed to that as like more of a movement.
but if you actually looked at the numbers,
that's more of a cultural experience
than like you actually quite comprehend
because it's not like the traditional media
selling you on the cultural movement of this thing.
So my guess is what I'm trying to say is like
if you feel like we're in an environment now
where like the culture doesn't move in Matt,
well, Trump would be the ultimate example of that not being true.
But I bet that's just the perception of like
the environment we're living in.
But if you actually looked at the numbers of interest
for specific things or engagement,
by people. I bet it's overall higher because of the access to just general media on the internet
as opposed to like, you know, having to go through a newspaper or a television.
It's very interesting. And one, I want to point out that this is a Bitcoin channel, so autism
is more than welcome. And then number two, that I think you're right. And I think perhaps the
one thing that I wasn't accounting for was just time and that there's still a generational aspect.
Like once the entire basic populace has been on podcasts and been on the internet for their life,
we've, you know, love you, Gen X. But if you've moved on and boomers are gone,
then perhaps the best ideas really can rise to the top without any sort of issue.
And they do have that kind of cultural movement.
Gary, I haven't hugging the mic.
Go for it, buddy.
No, no, no, not at all.
The idea of everybody in their own little space.
And like you said, in the old days it was Johnny Carson.
And he was basically the gatekeeper.
And you had three networks.
And, you know, what you saw is what you saw.
And everybody kind of went along with it.
And now we have much more opportunity, like you said, where people can maybe not get filthy rich,
but make a living at comedy or podcasting, all sorts of entertainment.
When I grew up, I'm a little bit older than you, it was always more or less an expectation, at least politically, because you're very political, obviously, that if comedians I saw on TV got into politics, it was almost always in favor of the political left.
Like if they took aside, it was almost always on the political left.
And that seems to have shifted in recent years.
I see a lot, especially in the podcast space, independent comedy.
I see a lot of it moving to the right, whether it's MAGA or reactionary or libertarian.
or ANCAP or whatever.
I guess I'm wondering, what do you see?
Is that a movement?
Is that a shift?
Or is it just now these people
who have always been in comedy
and had these views suddenly have an outlet
where they're maybe not being censored
or suppressed as much?
I don't know that I have my finger on the pulse of that one,
but it would kind of seem to,
I mean, for so long,
if you wanted a Hollywood job,
you had to play ball.
And that kind of included being a lefty.
You know, you would literally lose work
if you were conservative.
or, you know, it's just kind of,
and so the networks don't exist anymore.
I mean, what comedian is like trying to get a late-night spot
to build their career?
Who's trying to get on Comedy Central?
I mean, like, for the first seven or eight years of my career,
that was the game, was you were trying to get on television,
you were trying to be in these outlets.
If anything, people are almost just trying to appeal
to the masses at the moment,
which is, like, conspiracy nutcase of Twitter.
And so I think the market at the moment
almost rewards how bad.
that shit, do you want to go and pretending what your views are?
Because that shit kind of rises to the top at the moment.
That's totally fair.
Personal question, were you into comedy before politics or vice versa?
No, I was definitely more interested in comedy.
And then I found myself more in the political alley as I kind of went about my career.
A big part of that is just, you know, one is it, I remember watching comedians,
bullshitting about politics and finding it irritating that they actually knew nothing and had
nothing to say.
And as I watched the climate kind of change where comedians were kind of expected to be,
to talk about these issues, I was like, well, I'd like to actually be informed.
I don't really like, I don't really like being an asshole.
So I'm like, I'll actually.
No, you don't like it?
I mean, sometimes, I'll be a contrarian, but I'm just saying, like, I don't love talking
about things I know nothing about.
Like that does not,
there's,
a lot of comedians do it.
A lot of comedians don't read anything
and will shout from the hilltop.
Like they're the most knowledgeable and informed
on a particular thing that they know nothing about.
Can I get the names?
What was that?
Could I get some names?
Yeah, after the show.
I'm not going to be throwing people under the bus on air.
But, you know,
I do the show with Dave and he's more politically aligned than I am.
I also kind of wanted to do more like political jokes
and I realized how just informed Dave was
and how much that was kind of informing the angles on his comedy.
And then just from, you know, doing political radio to what is a growing audience,
it's just that same thing of like, well, shit, there's going to be 200,000 people listening to me on this tomorrow.
I better know what the fuck I'm talking about.
That's responsible.
I'm sure there are a lot of people that don't give a fuck and let us go up, like you said, and pontificate.
I certainly fill in the blanks with bullshit, but I do my best to try.
and try and be informed so that, you know, at least it's rooted in something.
I'm curious how much you think your own upbringing has informed your comedy or your politics.
You know, I was listening again to you and Dave this morning, and you were talking about how
you went to Israel when you were eight or nine, and it was finally a break from you to not be
kosher, and you could go eat Burger King and like, this is a big thrill for you.
And, you know, full disclosure, Amahib, the name doesn't look it, but my mom's side of
Ashkenazi Jew reformed.
Really?
Yeah, I went to Hebrew school.
Wow, you're an undercover Islamic.
I know, I know.
I pass a lot of places.
You know, I did the bar mitzvah for grandma.
That was the last time I ever set foot in a temple.
I don't practice anything now.
I could have gone on birthright if I wanted to.
I never had any desire or interest.
But how does your upbringing, whether your religious upbringing or your cultural upbringing,
like, I don't even know where you grew up.
Like, how has that informed your politics and your comedy?
Uh, geez, man, I feel like I'm an NPR. I don't think about these things.
I think I probably have a little bit of an outsider's perspective growing, growing up
Orthodox Jewish. And I'm sure that my worldview is a little bit different than, you know,
the general cultures because of that upbringing. And I'm sure that that creates some, like,
comedic angles of things that I'm seeing that other people aren't seeing. Uh, but I don't,
I don't really reverse engineer my thinking in that capacity.
No, totally fine.
How did you get to the point of being so skeptical about like American interventionism
across the globe?
Ooh, that's a, that's another loaded question.
Well, you know what's interesting was I did get a finance degree in college and I thought
something that was, um, and when I was in college, for one, I had one internship at a hedge fund
and it was right at the start of the 2008 financial crisis.
And one of the things that was interesting was also by the time I was looking to graduate college,
we were in the middle of a recession, and there were no jobs. And so I can tell you, I had actually
studied in college the credit acid bubble that the government had created with the housing
market and the collapse that it led to. And then I was graduating college in an environment with
zero jobs. And I was actually, I was angry about it. Like, I literally could see literally like
there was a government policy that is now creating an environment that I'm going to move back into my
parents' house and feel like I'm a fucking loser.
Whereas like 20 years earlier, if I graduated college, I probably would have left and
gone right to Wall Street and had some job working phones and selling some horse shit to
some guy who's going to retire.
But I'm taking that money, all right?
So the point I'm trying to say is I really graduated college with a knowledge of,
wow, government just fucked me over.
And then there were other things that I just read at that time that really grabbed my
interest.
You know, like there's this guy,
George Reisman, I started reading his blogs,
just really changed my mind on a lot of topics,
like gun control.
There were a lot of topics,
like I kind of would have been a lefty on, social health care,
like a lot of stuff.
And I read those guys' articles,
and just instantly,
my viewpoint was changed on it.
And then, you know,
about four years into comedy,
I started hanging out with Dave,
who is a much more knowledgeable libertarian than I am,
and he started handing me like Murray Rothbard
and the other stuff.
And so I guess that's kind of
when I downloaded more of that information.
No, totally fair.
That's totally fine.
And I assume, I mean, you seem like a very open-minded guy.
I assume you'd probably be open-minded that your views could change somewhat in the future with even more information.
I would love that.
It almost bothers me now that I very rarely read things that like, it used to be like having an orgasm.
You would read something and go, holy shit, I was so wrong on this.
That is a fascinating argument.
It seems to happen so rarely now.
It seems like I see, and maybe it's that I'm in my own feedback loop.
but I seem to read a lot of things
that kind of reinforce ideas
that I already have
or kind of expand on what I already know
but I very rarely read something
that's like a total like
wow, I never saw the universe that way
that's fascinating.
It's very difficult to go down
the Rothbard and Mises rabbit hole
and then find something
that persuades you otherwise later.
Yes.
Yeah, I would agree with that take.
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Jumping back for one second because I want to touch on this.
Also, I want to point out that I love that the story of Robbie the Fire is basically a revenge story against the government.
Like they didn't know what they created when they screwed you over in 2008.
There you go.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Going back to batshit crazy conspiracies, bat shit crazy conspiracies.
Bat shit crazy conspiracies.
because we know those get a lot of views and clicks.
As anything caught your attention recently
or what's the wildest thing you've come across
and all you're digging?
Recent conspiracies that are just bad shit crazy?
Man, I'm fumbling on that one.
I feel like everything's just been like Epstein tariff talk lately.
I don't know.
I mean, there's that crazy storyline
of whatever people are claiming is some giant alien thing.
That one I haven't even dug into,
but there's some giant thing headed towards Earth
that they want to claim our aliens coming.
And then there's also
storyline of like the typical conspiracy theorist saying, oh yeah, if anyone claims that aliens
are coming, it's COVID 2.0 where they're going to tell you, you got to go back into
your house and we're going to control you. So, I mean, if you want to just go follow a bad shit
storyline, it's something's coming to Earth and someone wants to claim it's aliens and other
people want to claim that that's the government just trying to pretend like it's aliens.
That's about as bad shit as it gets. That's a great one. On that same note, too, like the whole,
was it like the UFO or what is it, UAV now on Mandarial?
vehicle or whatever it is, testifying in Congress of the Senate. Again, I'm not buying that
that's actually there, that it's aliens, but the fact that we're at the, we're in the timeline
where the government is saying, yes, there are UFOs is really weird. Yeah, there's nothing
that's going to get me not to believe something sooner than the government acknowledging it.
You know, we're talking about, go ahead. No, no, you go for it. No, I was going to say,
we're talking about bat-shick crazy stuff. And I, for a long time, I used to work in the government.
I did for about six years and we'd have people write letters in.
Yeah, I know.
Dude, he's an actor.
He's a CIA plant.
I already figured this out.
Basically.
We'd have people write these letters in and they'd sometimes sound and come off really crazy.
And I'm sure to some degree they were.
And for a long time, I had been like very, very anti-conspiracy.
Just if only because of the Occam's Razor aspect of it, like a conspiracy is like really,
really hard to keep secret.
Like part of a conspiracy is you need everybody to keep it secret.
It's really just hard to do.
I'm not opposed to the idea of them.
But in recent years, in fact, I'd say even over just the past couple years, the more and more I read, I'm not necessarily saying I'm buying into everything I'm reading, but having already been skeptical of the government and thinking they've really done a lot of fucked up things.
Now I'm like, oh, I haven't gone far enough.
They've done things even more fucked up than I've realized.
So with all that said, I guess my question is, you know, how do you sort the wheat from the chaff?
How do you Robbie Bernstein say, okay, this sounds.
sounds just effing crazy. That doesn't make sense. But maybe there's a nugget of truth to this thing.
I should go digging in. All right. Well, for starters, government and information, it's one big circle
jerk. And it's important for the audience to realize that. And what I mean by that is if you never
read anatomy of the state, it talks about the relationships between basically the elites and the
academics. And the elites will spend basically money on the work of the academics if it's the opinion
of what they're looking to portray into the world.
And then those academics, it signals to us of like,
oh, look, those are the wealthy prestigious academics
because of all the money that's coming from the elites,
just because they're putting out what those people want,
the information that they want to have.
The best example of that concept is there was a Rick and Morty episode
where the dad is talking about how Pluto is a planet.
And then all of a sudden, they bring him to Pluto
and represent him as a scientist because he's the one guy
that will say that Pluto's a planet.
And in terms of like if you're just absolutely like conspiracy, it doesn't exist,
I mean, just look at the green scam that took place over Biden and look at the COVID storyline.
And it's kind of just Carlins, it's a big club and you're not in it.
It's not so much that all these people have to get into the same room and coordinate.
It's just that there has to be enough of incentive structure for them all to be on the same team.
So if like Harvard and everyone doesn't want to criticize Fauci because they have got NIH grants coming in,
then that just reinforces that thing.
Doesn't mean that the head of Harvard ever sat down in a room with Fauci
and decided, hey, we're going to sell everyone on this COVID thing.
It's just that enough incentive structures are in place
for everyone to kind of play ball on the same storyline.
Now, in terms of how do I, like, sift through it and call out bullshit,
a lot of, like, I worked in sales, so I kind of have a pretty good gauge
for honest information.
And usually, like, usually people lie in two ways.
One, it's kind of like the, it's safe and effective where they won't give you any,
any specifics whatsoever.
That's usually a tell of something.
Like, usually if someone has a good reason for something, they will tell you the reason.
And the reason that they won't give you any information is because they don't have any
to support their claims.
And so I'm kind of like on a case by case basis of everything that come with like that's
kind of in the news that week where, you know, I hear something and sometimes you're just like,
well, I don't think that makes sense.
and then you start doing the research of,
well, did they give any of the specifics behind?
Like Trump does this all the time.
Hey, I worked out a deal.
What's the deal?
And there's no information on it.
All right.
So I'm pretty sure it's not a good deal.
I don't know.
If it's a good deal, you would just tell me what the deal was.
You would go, hey, they agreed to this.
And here's why it's great.
If you can't do that, you probably don't have anything good here.
So anyways, for me, it's just, I've worked in sales.
I can kind of see some of the tricks of how people lie
or how they represent information.
one of the best examples when Biden was claiming with the border wall
that he didn't have the authority to police the border,
but if Congress would grant it to him,
then he would start closing the border after 5,000 people cross a day.
And then remember I dug in on that one,
and 5,000 people was like the current level of illegal border crossings.
So he's basically just trying to legalize what's currently illegal border crossings.
And then once that storyline kind of made it to the public,
then they decided to deal with the border.
but he was just lying.
So I don't know.
Sometimes it's like,
he just have to hear it and go,
I don't think that checks out
or what's the reason that they're telling me.
And to be honest,
Twitter,
Gronk has made it so much easier
because you can basically just plug things in
and go,
hey, have they given you any information
to support this?
Like, COVID times was tough, man.
COVID times, like,
especially in the early COVID times,
are just like, I think you're lying to me.
I mean, I had to learn about
all sorts of sciencey things
that I know nothing about.
But I just knew that they were lying.
It didn't make sense
you were stripping my freedom
for some
thing that wasn't a vaccine that you're calling about.
I don't have to rehash all that shit.
Your audience probably knows it and it's boring.
But sometimes like the starting point is just like,
I don't know.
This doesn't smell right.
And then you read up on it and you can usually validate your point of view
or sometimes you're like, no, that checks out.
And then you go, all right, my intuition was wrong.
Fair.
No, I completely agree.
I think it was kind of an advantage being in, let me say,
there's an advantage being a libertarian of one flavor or another.
You tend to be most susceptible to probably,
propaganda that you agree with. And so kind of being this weird autistic third leg of the political
spectrum means that you're not really in either camp and you're probably have an even more
sensitivity to when they're lying. And even just going back to COVID and thinking about the
incentives there too, it wasn't even just directly financial, right? There seemed like such social
I was in the universities at the time and they all just completely agreed. And you could tell
that it was very much so just that social tribal behavior that it wasn't marching orders.
It was almost like closing ranks on their ivory tower.
Yeah, well, that's the problem with the Libertarian party is if you're libertarian, you're probably not that into compliance or being in groups.
Speaking of the Libertarian Party, too, I'm actually curious if you have any thoughts or views on it generally as a vehicle for both political change or even just putting the ideas and information out there.
Because I would, disappointingly, I would argue that, like, yourself and comedians and podcasters and Bitcoin has done so much more for libertarian ideas and information than that.
any of the political organizations have been able to achieve.
Yeah, I'm, I just, I'm trying to stay out of the real political lane of party politics.
That's just not for me.
I'm already like a little bit too far into political commentary in my pursuit of a stand-up comedy.
If I was in charge of a libertarian party in the last election, I probably would have used it to
endorse Trump and I would have looked for more concessions than just Bitcoin and Free Ross.
We actually did an episode of part of the problem where I wrote my list of,
of seven things that I was looking for.
In the current climate,
I think of Donald Trump,
I think if the tariffs,
I think there might be more of an opening
for the third party to actually exist.
With all that said,
it's just not,
it's not really my field of interest.
No, fair enough, fair enough.
Gary?
Do you think, I mean,
we say in Bitcoin,
as Lynn Alden says,
nothing stops this train,
and we're $37 trillion in debt.
Do the people you see out,
when you're doing your porch door out in middle America,
do they have any sense of how supremely fucked we are
and how there really is no way out of this
aside from just totally debasing their money?
I mean, do they get it?
Is there a sense of that at all?
Well, my audience is listening to my show
and they're pretty sophisticated
and sometimes they get mad at me
that I'm not accepting Bitcoin payments.
I think my audience,
because I've talked about the bear story quite a few times,
I think that they're pretty looped in on it.
I think you're typical American to this day
when I start talking about the amount of money
that's been spent over the last 20 years
and asset bubbles, as I've discussed,
it's over their head.
And not only is it over their head,
it just seems so catastrophic
that it's like impossible to them
that we'd be ignoring such a big problem.
And so in that way,
there still is like kind of like
what that COVID compliance was,
that people are still just buying
this system,
little bit and like they just can't believe that it's that kind of doomsdayish of what do you mean
my my house and my stock unless they inflate it to all my other wealth to nothing is not just
going to continuously go up in value it's really not something that people people don't want to
be responsible for their own choices and that's one of the worst things about what government
does with currency is that I don't want to do it I work like you know many hours I put in some
podcasting and stand up the last thing I want to do is when I actually save some
money is figure out what kind of risk I want to take and how I want to allocate it. That is not
how I want to spend my time at all. And I'm telling you every like doctor, lawyer, every single
person that's working their ass off, like a lot of times people don't mind a bad choice as long as
it wasn't their choice and they're not at fault for it. And so if you've got your financial
advisor telling you, no, you got to be 70% in stocks, you got to be blank in your house, you got to be
this and that. People don't want to think about this shit. That was partly the COVID compliance
my doctor's saying I should do it.
I'm not going to listen to some conspiracy nut.
I don't want to think.
People don't want to be responsible for their decisions.
Part of the pitch of government is we're going to step in
and we're going to be the parent in here.
We're going to make the,
and like people don't realize,
well, if somebody's lying to about good decisions,
that's not better.
But so just to your point,
my audience is pretty in the loop on it.
I think the general population,
they do not want to be responsible for their own decisions.
And the like degree of contrarian
that you have to have to have,
have to be like, I don't want to own stocks or I don't want to be in stocks for last three years
because P.U ratios are at 30. And you're just sitting on fucking cash and losing it.
Or if you, I'm not personally all in Bitcoin. I happen to have gotten lucky that I bought in
early. And so from like a, from a, if I was sitting down with the financial advisor, he would
tell me I should be selling some Bitcoin and reallocating it. Like I probably have 40% of my
net worth in Bitcoin. That's not because I've saved 40% of my money and put it in. I'm just
saying the current allocation, that's probably about what my net worth is in Bitcoin.
For most individuals, like, you don't want to take the risk of being in a single, like,
I understand that to you guys, this is currency.
Most people don't want to make the decision to work contrarian against the entire.
And that's why the people that do it, if they end up being right, will be rewarded.
And I'm just saying for most individuals, like, wait, so instead of taking out a loan and
buying this house that I can live in or investing in a business, I'm going to just hold this
alternative currency that gamers,
bros, and libertarians like.
You know what I mean? If that doesn't work
out, then when you're at the bar,
you feel like an asshole. That's what I'm talking about. People don't
like feeling like an asshole. And so
they'd rather just go with what everyone else is doing.
And then if it blows up, well, I was doing
what everyone else was doing. That's totally
fair. Now I get that.
I think we all do it in our lives, especially things that we don't know.
We only have so much bandwidth in the day. The couple of things we're interested in.
I just took my car to get my tire fix
the other day. I trust my guy who
fixes my tire down the block. And he's trying to explain to me. I said, listen, I mean,
I appreciate you trying to explain to the thing here. You've always been good to me. I've only
for two years. You're an honorable trustworthy guy. If you say I need to spend $1,400 and change tires on my
car, I'll just spend the $1,400 and change tires in my car. I have those moments all the time with people.
And I have to bite my tongue. But I had the other day, I was out on the porch. I actually,
something bit me and it kind of blew up and I got nervous that I had a tick bite. And I've not
seen a doctor in like four years. But this one made me nervous enough for I was like, I think I got to go
get this checked. And I go in to get a check and the doctor starts giving me like this whole
rundown of and I'm like, is this, do I need medication for a tick fight or not? Like you're going to
send me whatever bill you're going to send me. I don't need to waste more of your time or my time.
I don't care about any of this information. You can just walk into the room, look at it, go yes or no,
and we can call it a fucking day. But I'll tell you, you know what that is in part? I had this when I was,
I'm a bald man. I'm not totally clean shaving at the minute. I look like an old man. I got the
George Costanza going on.
I basically I shave it once a week.
The other days I wear a hat.
But I remember when I used to go to the barber for him to shave my head,
he would still dress it up and pretend like he's cutting on the sides.
He'd keep you in the chair for 20 minutes.
He'd still rub his dick on your elbow.
He would do all the things because he still wants a tip.
And otherwise, he's going to charge you less.
And so I stopped going.
I started shaving my own head.
But yeah, a lot of career professionals, they're doing that.
They're giving you the this, that, the other thing.
and, you know, just kind of justifies the bill you get.
No, it totally makes sense.
I feel like a lot of life is that.
I mean, even just, you know, my kids in school, you know, whatever the local government
school is.
What are you actually learning there?
I mean, this is glorified daycare.
Let's just be real.
It's a place to leave my kids for such and such hours throughout the day.
And you need to justify your big salary with your degree.
You're saying we're learning this or that.
And most learning doesn't even come from school.
But anyway, that's a whole of a tangent.
Yeah, it's just a lot of justifying your position.
And that's fine.
for me, I would just say, call it what it is. I'll pay you the money. He's happy. You're happy. We're all
happy. Just be honest with me. Yeah. You know, I would give it to people straight, hey, man, I'm recommending
new tires. Do you want to just do it or do you need the explanation? Yeah. No, totally.
Yeah. That's totally the case. Do you think, and that to be, you guys were talking, you guys talk
about this a lot, you and Dave, about the idea of, you know, there are certain things with the two political parties.
that they're going to agree on and they're going to do. And the fighting between them kind of happens
at the margins. And one of the things, obviously, is just America's unconditional support for Israel.
You know, no matter who it is, Republican, Democrat, team, red, team blue, year after year,
Israel wants something, they get it, and sometimes then some. Do you ever see that changing?
How could it possibly change? I guess this is all wrapped up and how do you see this particular
latest part of the conflict in Gaza ending and obviously in the West Bank as well?
I ask this, obviously, you know, I don't want to see people hurt or killed wherever they are,
especially kids, whether they're Jewish, Christian, Muslim, atheist, whatever.
I don't care what make-believe sky creature you worship.
I don't want to see kids killed.
But even just for America's interest, I mean, this stuff creates blowback.
People see who we're supporting over there without question.
So even if you don't care about all, you know, those other people over there, this is hurting our country.
Do you ever see this changing?
And if so, how?
Yeah.
So I think what people need to realize about government.
is that it's a self-serving entity
and they will rule over us
to whatever capacity we allow them to.
I think some of the best examples of that
was when they tease, you know,
having a domestic terrorism title after January 6th,
like, or when they had that,
the ministry of information,
like whatever power we see to government,
they're going to take it.
But the flip side of that is if the audience
and the, you know,
the voting public is outraged over something,
at some point,
the problem is sometimes they just lie their way into office
and then it's new boss, same as the old boss type deal.
But in the current media landscape,
there's things that, I don't know,
because even on the Israel topic,
like in the next election,
I could see someone being like,
yeah, we're not supporting them anymore.
And then they get into office and they just then send them checks and weapons.
So, you know, there does seem to be a lot of, you know,
when you're on the outside,
you make grand claims of what you're going to get done.
And then you get in and it's just kind of, you know,
you play ball with the,
machine. But I do think that I really think it's an educational issue. And with free media,
there's a capacity for people kind of becoming, like, I don't know that, I don't know that there's
endless Israel support. Like, it certainly seems like at the moment, it's still ongoing,
but I don't know that that's endless. You know what I mean? Like, particularly this past week
was a big change in the way that the media was sharing more images and sharing the starvation
story, Americans don't want that. Like, if that story is actually in the media and reported on for
long enough, it'll come to an end. And then it's kind of a capacity where it's like, you know,
if there's so much reporting on something that doesn't exist in traditional media at all,
and it just kind of continues to erode, why would I watch traditional media? They're not actually
telling me what's going on in the world. So the answer is, like, I kind of agree with you,
and that it seems grim
and that, you know,
people lie when they're on the outside to get in,
and then once they're in,
they just seem to enact the exact same agenda, more or less.
But there does seem to be an aspect of public outrage.
And if the public really sinks its teeth into something
or they really care about something,
there will be a change on that issue.
For this last election,
I think immigration was a big one.
And that's why we have seen a change in immigration policy.
And, you know, I guess theoretically,
the problem with the Israel thing is that it's just it's not here.
And at the end of the day, people care about what's here more than what they care about
what's there.
It's human nature.
Yeah.
And so it would be tough to have like a single voter issue of there being so much outrage
over what's happening there that people would be like all vote for AOC,
even though I don't agree with a single one of her economic policies,
but she's actually going to end the situation.
She's going to end support for Israel.
Like I think, you know what I mean?
Most red-blooded Americans, if they think AOC is going to call,
to your job, but she's going to end the famine in Gaza. You're picking your job. Of course.
That's what people do. It's understandable. It's human nature. You look at your own family and what's
nearest to you. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything. It's just what humans do. I totally get
that. I would largely agree. And just to point to something you said earlier that really for there
to be large public sway on kind of any of those issues, I think you're right in the sense that
something has to blow up first. Like you've got to lose your job and kind of fall down that
Maslow's hierarchy of needs before you might really start be taking issue with where money is
being directed otherwise when you're hurting. That there's going to have to be the bubble pop.
There's going to have to be mass kind of layoffs. Then people will basically turn inward and be
really focused on what they need right now. Yeah. The problem with whatever the next collapse
will be is that while people could get educated and figure out that it's the Fed and that it's money
inflation, socialism and totalitarianism seems to be more attractive when people are outraged over
the mistakes of previous administrations. Yeah, I agree. That's why we need the Huyck-slide
roundabout way. That's why I'm so invested in Bitcoin. It's got to think you're right. It's that
Trojan horse. It's taking away the option at some point in time. Well, I hope you're right,
and that it wasn't created by the NSA and that at some point they just collapse it in on you.
but, you know, that's the gamble that we're all taken.
Nope, 100%.
Robbie, I do want to be respectful for time,
but I had two other questions that I want to squeeze in there if I could.
One, with all your travels for the porch tour,
where's the best sandwich in America that you found so far?
Oh, man.
Right?
And while you're thinking about that, number two,
is there another comedian whether uppercumbing or someone well established
that, like, you really respect or you really enjoy or take some inspiration from?
Okay.
Well, let's go with the second question first,
because that's actually easier to answer.
and my roster of openers are like intimidatingly talented
where sometimes I see them working on new jokes or otherwise
my friend menu and heart I cannot believe that that guy is not famous famous at this point
my friend Chris Faga is absolutely hilarious I got a friend Chris Warren
who I met in the open mic scene a couple years ago he does a lot of these with me
there's a bunch of guys I met out on the road I have them with me so
by and large, like the guys that I'm working with are usually because I was out in some
market and I saw them and I'm like, man, this gets killing it. And I definitely, you know, I don't
spend enough time in New York anymore just because I'm on the road basically every weekend for
four-day weekends that I'm podcasting all week. So I don't really know what's going on in the cities
anymore, but I definitely, you know, some of the guys I work with, I'm like, shit, I got to work
harder. These guys are coming up with new and great jokes, which is good. That's, that's who
you want to be around.
Here's the thing.
I love sandwiches and I'm such a fatty,
but overeating,
it's kind of a home game activity.
You know,
I got a sensitive Jewish stomach,
so I really do most of my overeating
at home.
You know, I don't do a lot of overeating on the road
because I'm constantly on the move
and you're like, I got a flight in 10 minutes.
I'm like, that looks incredible,
but I'm not going to eat it.
And so when I'm out on the road,
I tend to actually eat a little bit cleaner
than where I'm at home.
And while I love,
like a cartoonishly large sandwich.
Like, if I saw a billboard, like the cartoonishly large sandwich shop, I'd be like,
fuck, I got a gig in an hour.
Like, I'd really like to eat there.
But shit, I can't do that right now.
Do you have any traditional kosher dish that you would recommend?
Oh, I miss kosher food.
I don't want to keep religion anymore.
But I love, like, some of the old school.
Like, dude, I remember I was once out of Florida, and I went to this, like, kosher
delicatessen with the lady from me there and I was eating like I felt like my grandfather dude I was
eating like stuffed cabbage and ruggalach like uh and I was like this is this is great chalens great
potato cugel kishka like the authentic like eastern European poor people shabot foods oh my god I wish
I could get that somewhere that's good stuff man I grew up with some of that myself yeah and
particularly some like those like the like a like a like a like a really good chocolate bovka.
I haven't had that in forever.
But it's got to be like dank, you know what I mean?
Like where it's like moist on the inside.
Oh yeah.
I'm like that.
That's good.
I get a lot of barbecue on the road.
I'm a big fan of a barbecue because I don't like I like not having to like go through a waiter
and wait on food type deal.
You know what I mean?
I like being old.
I like the tray.
I like the tray system.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Just done right on the spot.
and that's good to go.
Yeah, shovel it down.
Perfect porch food.
It absolutely makes sense
of eating a ton of barbecue on the road.
Beautiful, Robbie, with that,
can you tell me where can people go
to check out the porch tour,
check out you,
follow you all that fun stuff.
And also, lastly, I'll throw in there.
Yeah.
Is you not accepting Bitcoin payments
for the tickets yet.
So if you need some help,
setting that up,
I will just have Gary drive over
and do it for you.
Okay, perfect.
Nice of you to volunteer Gary's services.
What is your wreck for,
for ticketing through Bitcoin?
Easiest way to probably do it.
There's a company out of Austin
called Zaprite,
and it makes it really easy to integrate
like traditional Fiat payments
and then Bitcoin payments
just on the website side
so you can just have it up and good to go.
All right, maybe I'll look inside it
and at the moment I've,
I hate it.
And every single porch store season,
I say I'm going to get off Eventbrite.
And then I just have the capacity
to copy and paste like the old links
and I stay there.
But anyways,
come,
come catch me out on porch store.
I don't think anyone's else done this in comedy.
I'm literally touring the country
playing people's backyards.
It's quite the hangout.
It's a party.
I do my show. We drink all night on people's lawn.
Sometimes I sleep in their houses and I eat their food.
It's a good old time.
Yeah, it's a good time.
And if I had to recommend one, like if there was one poor side to recommend,
it's August 30 at my friend Max's.
It's a remote location, but I stack it with comics.
We got a concert for my friends.
We're doing this thing called the Smokeout Bugout,
which it's essentially four people smoke an ounce of weed in an hour.
And it's a bullshitter's game where I asked them like the Harvard
extemporaneous debate questions, and we see who can, you don't have to know what the fuck
you're talking about. It's just if you can sell the audience on that you do know what you're
talking about. And then other than that, run your mouth podcast. That's my personal pod.
Sweet, man. Love it. And where is Max's house, by the way?
That's in Myersville, Maryland. But if you're not in this area, I got, I got porches all over the
country. I got a Tennessee run coming up, California run. Just go to portstore.com and, you know,
come check out the porch.
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