BTC Sessions - NEW MAJOR Report Guarantees $1 MILLION Bitcoin By 2027

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

A newly released peer reviewed report predicts Bitcoin will hit $1 million by 2027—and it’s not just speculation. Backed by real data and global shifts, 4 unexpected nations are now going all-in o...n BTC, signaling a seismic change in the world economy.BOOK private one-on-one sessions with BITCOIN MENTOR! Learn self custody, hardware, multisig, lightning, privacy, running a node, and plenty more - all from a team of top notch educators that I've personally vetted.https://bitcoinmentor.io/—------------------------------FOLLOW BTC Sessions on X: x.com/BTCsessions—------------------------------SHOW SPONSORS:BITCOIN WELL BUY BITCOINhttps://qrco.de/bfiDC6COINKITE/COLDCARD (5% discount):https://store.coinkite.com/promo/BTCSessions AQUA WALLEThttps://qrco.de/bfiD8gNUNCHUK HONEYBADGER INHERITANCEhttps://qrco.de/bfiDARHODLHODL NO KYC P2P EXCHANGEhttps://hodlhodl.com/join/BTCSESSIONDEBIFI LOANShttps://qrco.de/bfiDCpCRYPTOCLOAKShttps://qrco.de/bg5Dvo#btc #bitcoin #crypto

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Starting point is 00:00:01 A peer-reviewed research paper just mapped out the path to a $1 million Bitcoin with specific dates included, and the logic behind it is hard to ignore. The projections hinge on surging demand from institutions and nation states with math centering around existing liquid supply, while accounting for variances in accumulation moving forward. Now, looking at recent headlines would seem to lend more critical. credence to their analysis. Four different governments this week alone have made moves to accumulate or integrate Bitcoin. Some expected others seemingly out of left field. One's a major democracy in Asia. Another gave us the Renaissance and one of them might be your own. Today we'll unpack
Starting point is 00:00:53 the full report and reveal the timeline of when you might be able to celebrate seven figure Bitcoin, plus cover some of the other interesting things that went down in Bitcoin land this week. Smash that like button and stay tuned. I am Ben with the VTC sessions. This is your weekly session. All right. I want to welcome to the stage. My co-host with the most, Mr. Nathan Fitzsimmons of Bitcoin Mentor.
Starting point is 00:01:25 How you doing, man? Oh, my God. I've missed you, sir. Now, I'm not sure how I feel about the new studio. The chair in the background is a nice touch, but I think I prefer the old one. but it's so good to be back on stream with you. Did you see the terrible news about James Howells?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I think it's Howells. And not the thing you're thinking of, probably the other thing. Remind me that he's the dude. Oh, God, bad luck back. He's the guy who had, I think, 8,000 Bitcoin on a hard drive that he accidentally threw out and spent like the last 12 years trying to find this thing in a landfill. Oh, God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah. I do know what you're talking about. I'm sure we'll get to that moment in a moment here. But yeah, not great, not great. We'll dive into that a little bit. But there's been a bunch going on this week. I want to start today with a little clip. This is of the Bitwise CEO.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, we're going to take a little clip. And so the CIO here is talking about countries buying a Bitcoin. And the reason I'm starting with this is just a kind of good credence to what this peer-reviewed report says in and around price predictions for Bitcoin in the coming years because of said nation state adoption. So let's take a listen to the CIO here of Bitwise and what is happening with them currently. I think it's the same growth curve just at different phases. It's an exponential growth curve. It's just that the sort of bank, wirehouse institutional curve is so far down that now the doubling is very visible, right? Like we've seen a steady acceleration.
Starting point is 00:03:16 We're past the hockey stick point. I think nation states are moving in that direction, right? It's not just El Salvador now. We had Pakistan a little while ago. We have, bitwise, it's multiple sovereigns. We had Abu Dhabi. We've had a few others. I think it's moving in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:03:34 We're just earlier in the doubling phase. But, you know, look, I think if the U.S. actually buys Bitcoin, I can't imagine what that does to the price or to the game theory of other countries moving into the space. I think it would be, I don't think that's priced into the market at all. Yeah. So, you know, he's saying there, Bitwise alone is talking to multiple sovereigns. And, you know, that's just bitwise, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And so I want to chat a little bit about this report here and kind of how they've come to their numbers. And when these price predictions, you know, when they're positing, they may come true as well as some of the stories that are just happening just as of this week that are developing that, you know, would add fuel to the fire of what they're saying. saying may come to fruition. And so with this report, what did they do? So this is a peer-reviewed study. It models Bitcoin's price trajectory using fundamentals based on supply and demand framework. And they started from a base of the April 2024 having as their initial kind of price point
Starting point is 00:04:52 and data moving forward from there. And it highlights how rising institutional and sovereign demand combined with the fixed supply of Bitcoin and increasingly illiquid supply, can drive extreme price appreciation in the coming years. And so they have a few different models, which is kind of the lines that you're seeing on the screen. And so they have a more, we'll call it their conservative scenario. And this is with moderate adoption on the institutional and sovereign side. And around 2000 Bitcoin a day being removed from circulation.
Starting point is 00:05:27 This puts us at around a million dollars per coin in fall of 2028 with a visible supply shock by 2029 to 2030. Their more bullish scenario would be aggressive institutional adoption. Again, in the realm of 1,000 to 2,000 Bitcoin a day, withdrawn from the liquid supply, that would put us at a million by early 27 and 2 million by late 27 with a projected 5 by 2031. Now, they do also outline a hyperbolic trajectory, and this is like 3,000 plus Bitcoin a day removed from liquid supply, which would completely exhaust the supply before 2036 and trigger runaway prices. Now, they don't think in this report that that's super plausible or realistic,
Starting point is 00:06:23 but they just stated as a potential scenario. Now, some of the model assumptions in and around, like, what's liquid and what's not, how do they start? So as of the having, they said in and around that time, 11.2 million Bitcoin would be considered liquid. So this is the Bitcoin that we're currently mined at the time. One million illiquid, just Satoshi wallets. Four million assumed lost forever, just burned keys, people making mistakes in the early days. And then 3.5 to 4.5, somewhere in that realm, a million permanently hogs.
Starting point is 00:07:02 as like a reserve strategy, basically coins that aren't expected to move. So putting the liquid supply at around 11.2 million. Of course, new issuance, currently 450 Bitcoin per day. That'll be cut in half in 2028 to 225. And just for a note, you know, we're talking about like how many thousand Bitcoin per day removed from liquid supply would cause some of these runups. The ETA, you know, and it's in the, you know, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 range.
Starting point is 00:07:40 The ETF flows alone at the end of 2024 were just shy of 300. It was like 285. So that's already a big chunk of that, let alone sovereigns, let alone these other things. So, you know, the numbers, while we're not necessarily seeing that, this moment, a lot of the rumblings would lend credence to that type of of a demand curve over time. And so let's kind of just take a look at a few of the things that are going on this week. So we've got Indonesia, the vice president office chatting about adopting Bitcoin as a national reserve asset.
Starting point is 00:08:26 that they invited Bitcoin Indonesia, this group, to come and basically make the pitch. And the way that they wanted to explore it was using Bitcoin mining as a National Reserve strategy. For me, this is kind of cool to see because one of my first kind of traveling Bitcoin experiences was I got married in Bali. And so I was in Indonesia and I went to one of the offices that they had on the island there just out of curiosity to see what was going on. And that was shortly after I started the channel.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So if you dig deep in my very first videos, one of the things was going to, they had a little Bitcoin office in Bali that I went to. And another little hub spot called Ubuid. Or Hibud was the name of the coffee shop, but they had Bitcoin ATMs and everything. So kind of cool to see this years later. Now, outside of this, what else has been going on?
Starting point is 00:09:27 So beside Indonesia, Brazil, they're considering adding Bitcoin to their national reserve. And they've got their first hearing on debating a national strategic Bitcoin reserve as of August 20th. So coming up pretty quick here. And so the actual proposal here is suggesting putting 5% of Brazil's international reserves into Bitcoin. And I think Nathan, you had said, where are they like in the pecking order when it comes to like GDP for for nation states? I saw some different kind of reports back and forth. But the one that I was looking at most recently had Brazil pegged at number 11 in terms of largest GDP ahead of Australia and South Korea. The South Korea one actually surprised me.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I figured they would have had a little bit more. But no, it's a big player. If they start getting into the space, they can they can move things around. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I mean, there's no joke, Brazil looking at this kind of stuff, like it would actually have a meaningful impact. Now, outside of that, there's a few other things that are going on, a couple more. So we've got an Italian MP that's urging National Banking Foundation's to start allocating to Bitcoin. He recently did an interview on being crypto.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So I just wanted to read a little bit. This is a quote from the MP himself. He said, Italy holds one of the largest gold reserves globally. But that doesn't mean we can't diversify. We face practical hurdles first. There's no budget classification for seized or confiscated crypto assets. Today, C's crypto in illegal investigations is scattered across various jurisdictions with no centralized oversight or accounting. The government hasn't commercialized these assets yet.
Starting point is 00:11:10 But if Bitcoin is treated as part of a diversified strategy, we need a way to track and evaluate it. Eventually, we'll need to decide should we liquidate these assets or remain with part of them as. as part of the state's patrimony. The term strategic reserve sounds impressive, but technically these assets already fall under the umbrella of state property, just like state-owned buildings. It goes on to say some real estate has declined in value over time. Bitcoin might offer a better upside in the long term.
Starting point is 00:11:41 And I'd say might. I just want to point out too, Brazil's number 11, Italy's number 10. Yeah. So, I mean, it's, it's, and continuing up the pecking order here, France. France, again, there's a major political party there that wants to mine Bitcoin with nuclear energy. And so this is coming out of resemblance national. This is Marine Le Pen's party. And so they basically reported last week that the leader, Marine Le Pen. She now backs using idle nuclear energy for Bitcoin mining. She reportedly promoted the plan during a visit to Flamenville.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I'm not sure how to say it. The nuclear plant there back in the spring. And the party said the initiative will turn wasted electricity into secure and extremely profitable digital assets, aka obviously Bitcoin. And so, I mean, these are just things that. have been popping up this week. And this is putting aside that, of course, you've got, you know, state side, still initiatives.
Starting point is 00:13:01 You've got Lomas's bill that's sitting around where she wants them to buy a million Bitcoin over five years. You know, and the head of digital assets for the White House stating that they want as much Bitcoin as they can possibly get their hands on. So there's there's just this kind of perfect storm where everybody's positioning themselves to to potentially cause curves in the price like this. And we're definitely at a time where you have, where you have the having, having way less of an effect because, you know, going from like, you know, one point something percent inflation to like slightly less than a percent has a lot. lot less impact than going from like 50 Bitcoin per block to 25 when not much has been mined in the first place. The crux of where Bitcoin's dollar denominated value lies now is in and around how many people get it and are accumulating. And so it's a completely different and harder to predict trajectory on when people understand. And it's just so much harder to put a
Starting point is 00:14:16 pin in it, but again, this is what they've tried to do with this report. So, Nathan, I'm kind of curious on your end, uh, what, what you think regarding the report and kind of all the stuff that's seemingly just, it's there. The discussions are happening, but when does it come to fruition? Man, I have no idea, but we know which direction is going. It's very clear. And I, it's either going to zero or it's going to multiple millions essentially is every single fiat currency collapses. And I think we all know which way it's going on that. The thing that I find interesting about this that I find kind of funny and reflecting on is that we're always, we're humans, right? We want to look for patterns. We want to map things out. We want to be able to predict the future a
Starting point is 00:14:56 little bit. It makes us feel good. It makes it feel a bit more confident and comfortable in the moment. But do you, this is a throwback. Do you remember the movie Men in Black? Do you remember men in black with Tommy Lee Jones and not doing so well these days, Will Smith? There was a scene near the end where, you know, Will wanted to tell everybody what was going on. And Tommy had this wonderful point. He said, humans are smart and intelligent, but people are dumb.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And in groups were basically these emotional, irrational, creatures. And the one thing, the one thing that none of these models ever account for is the sheer panic that could sweep the entire world. And I know that it could
Starting point is 00:15:31 because we saw it happen with COVID. We also saw it with like signature gate and silver gate with the bank runs, right? You get at some point, like I'm not saying this is necessarily going to happen. It's going to happen next year. But there could be that moment.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It could be the U.S. government issuing debt as being monetized by the central bank to directly buy Bitcoin, where the entire world has a holy shit moment on fiat currency and basically has a bank run running into Bitcoin as fast as they possibly could. We know that humans can move in hers like this. So while I think that these are very interesting and very reassuring, and I'm quite confident that we're going to get there one way or another, I'm always on the look at and so curious because I think there will be those moments, a little time. times along the way where we see those big step-ups because something shifted psychologically with kind of the, I don't know what I want to say, like the global zeitgeist. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's and again, when you're in it, it seems like it's taking forever. But I think we all need to also step back and say like, Bitcoin's been around for 16 years. Many of us have been in it for, you know, a fraction of that. And it feels like, why is not everybody
Starting point is 00:16:40 getting this, but it takes so long to get that into the heads of everyone. And just from the perspective of somebody that's been in it for a while, it, again, it feels like it's taking so long, but like on the grand scheme of things, 16 years for Bitcoin to be discussed in the way it's being discussed right now is astounding. And it just speaks to kind of the power of the technology and what it's been able to accomplish in such a short period of time and also how bad things are because of the existing system. Yeah. I think it will be one of those things that even when we're in the moment, it feels like it's
Starting point is 00:17:23 taken forever. But when we look back on it, these will seem like pivotal, pivotal times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Historically, people will look back and say, oh, my God, all of this happened in the window of like a couple of decades or, you know, two to three decades. and it will be crazy to see like, oh, they went from literally trying to read the tea leaves
Starting point is 00:17:45 of what a small group of people in a room were going to say to actually going to cryptographically provably scarce, finite sound money that is censorship resistant. And it was a monumental step in humanity. 100%. 100%. Well, we're going to discuss a little bit more about the bad. just how bad things are. There's a number of stats that actually you pulled together in and around, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:19 all the stuff that we're seeing with our generation and the newer generations coming up and how much worse they've got it than the generations that came before and because of this fiat decay. So we're going to be kind of diving into some of the specifics there. in and around the stats that are just really not looking good and why bitcoin continues to be hope so uh we'll do that in just a moment uh but we're going to do a quick shout out to our sponsors we'll be back in just a sec make sure you have your lightning uh wallets ready on the other side of it as well uh we'll do a little giveaway but we'll see it in just a moment
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Starting point is 00:22:17 What are we looking at right here? So this is the Google search trends for Bitcoin over the last five years. You can see the excitement back in 2021 there and we had a little blip, I believe that was in the run-up to Trump's inauguration.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But we are back basically at the same levels as like the 2023 bear market. No one's paying attention. We are so early in the cycle still. Yeah. Yeah, and it's crazy because obviously you and I and the people watching this know that Bitcoin fixes a lot of things and that the, in particular, the economic woes on as an initial first level, are solved by a lot of this. And you put together and aggregated a few examples of just how bad things are.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And so I want to bring up a few things. And some of them would point to that certain people are getting it, but definitely not retail. And so first off, let's chat a little bit about the U.S. housing market. house sellers outnumber buyers by more than 500,000 the largest gap ever recorded. So, you know, the the the trope of your home is your most important investment that we were sold. You know, we obviously had the financial crisis in 08 and all that and the housing bubble. But it's not looking. great not looking great there and and um and uh max kaiser retweeted that and quote quote tweeted it and
Starting point is 00:24:13 said uh bitcoin is demonetizing real estate now i don't know necessarily that that's the exact reason why this is happening but it does point to something going on where it's it's just untenable to be in real estate at the moment. How would you attribute what's going on? This right here, and again, this is just me purely speculating. I'm not an expert in any of these fields, but I have some thoughts on it. And I wonder if we're going to see essentially the boomers get rug pulled by their own stupidity over the years, meaning that boomers have the largest amount of wealth, including real estate in terms of like their asset portfolio.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And as they are now approaching, and in large amounts, not retirement, leaving living homes, kind of downsizing, they're looking to monetize the homes that they basically ran up the prices on and choked out the ability for the millennials to be able to buy one. So you set us up that we'd never be able to own a home and you got these ridiculous evaluations, but now you probably need to actually access some of that equity. You need to sell that home. And there's not going to be any buyers because he didn't let us let us take. a chance at having those higher positions in different companies, at not necessarily stripping us
Starting point is 00:25:35 of economic productivity with constantly getting more and more and more, what you call it, social and welfare benefits. And this might be like chickens coming home to roost to see real estate prices correct because the younger generation can't afford them. Yeah. Yeah. Well, exactly. Like what young person nowadays can actually ever believes that they'll own a home, like none. He's just completely given up on it. I don't think like millennials are still like maybe one day at 40. I think I saw some stats on where like the average home buyer, maybe it was like Florida to the US.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It was something stupid where the average home buyer was like in their 50s. It was ridiculous because a lot of people setting up families at 50 Ben. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's unbelievable to me how how quickly that has changed. And, and you know, my sister, so she lives in L.A. currently. And I remember in and around 2021, she had saved up like a sizable down payment. And she was looking at buying somewhere in and around L.A.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And like it was already bad enough. But she was like, hey, I saved up enough money to actually have a down payment or almost. And then she was like, you know, another six to 12 months of savings. I'll be good. And I'll be able to pull a trigger on a property that's actually. decent. Well, what happened? That's when they were in the midst of the COVID printing. And what happened, it just, it became impossible to afford anything. Like the inflation in and around real estate, the not only that, but like then they started hiking interest rates and everything.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it went from, I'm an inch away from pulling the trigger on buying a property to, I will never own a home here. And like that dream for a lot of people, if it was even close to reality in 2020, 2020, 2021, it's gone. It's just completely gone. And that leads us to our next stat. And the horror story here,
Starting point is 00:27:52 this is probably why we're seeing it. But here we go. go estimated percent of 30-year-olds who are both married and homeowners from 1950 to this year. And it goes from over 50 percent to it looks like it's getting close to the yeah. It's like getting close to 10. It's like 12 or 13 percent. Unbelievable. That is horrific.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That's horrific. That's so scary. that is the craziest chart explaining the entire problems with the Fiat system in just one green line. Like to think that you've had an 80% reduction in the amount of what should be that kind of prime age, prime family formation, prime age working individuals that neither have a home or are married. If you want to know which way your society is going, that's the biggest indication I've ever seen. And the fact that that's not alarming to most people, or they're not even necessarily putting two and two together. is just it we've said it a few times and I'll say it again. Those are some fourth turning vibes right there, right?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah. I would love to see. I know it would be almost impossible to get. But I, the optimism, so that's the green line right there, which is very appropriate for Fiat. If you had a nice orange line of Bitcoiners, I bet you it's going the other way right now and I'm damn happy about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah, exactly. It's, it's wild to see, you know, this, this, this, absolute misery. And again, look at the, look at the timeline here. Obviously, like, 1970, you know, 1971-ish, that decade, you know, sizable drop. Notice that it looked like it was going up a little bit from 1950 to 1960. Then, obviously, Vietnam War is happening in here. So there's already like fiat debasement, even though we're technically still pegged to the dollar at that point or peg to gold at that point there is you know this is when people were noticing and when they were like oh maybe we should start to repatriate some of our gold here
Starting point is 00:30:10 and then it's like oh it's not there and then and then it's just like free fall for decades and decades afterwards you know and so like how you know the the uninitiated how does this matter well when you can't afford the costs of living then it's going to take you longer and longer to be able to establish a family and have a home and like home ownership is obviously untenable for most people nowadays and that also has them putting off marriage and having families if they ever do it at all which is horrible yeah now these are these are the only uh things that have been uh going on here. We've got the rigged jobs report to make it look bad for Trump. Of course, like the economy is still not what people claim it is. U.S. adds only 73,000 jobs in July,
Starting point is 00:31:15 and unemployment rates stayed flat at 4.2%. Most expected 100,000 at least. in July. Now, I mean, we did see these job revisions a ton under Biden. They've worse. The revisions were insane and it was always just glossed over by the media as well when that was happening. But beyond that, we also have manufacturing PMI survey falls to 48, lowest since October of 2024. So this is purchasing manager. index. So not looking particularly good on that front. And then in the background, as all of this is going on, the Fed quietly publishes an article discussing, revaluing their gold. And so anybody that is familiar with how things work in the U.S., you know, they've got gold.
Starting point is 00:32:22 but it's valued at historical rates. It's not marked to market. And so revaluing that gold would free up some capital for potentially, you know, this is one of the budget neutral things that they've posited they could use to accumulate Bitcoin for strategic reserves. So, yeah, I don't know, Nathan. Thoughts on this seemingly perfect storm of misery that's happening right now? Well, we know exactly how they're going to respond to it. And you can see why Trump has been yelling at Jerome Powell and really sticking his nose in there and why things are getting a little bit heated is because there is signs that things are not going exactly the way they want.
Starting point is 00:33:03 One of the most shocking aspects of those jobs numbers was not only that July came in under expectations, but May and June revised down 258,000 that they removed from the total count, which is just astonishing. So, again, not looking strong. And to your point, I just pulled up the numbers here as well, too. currently the gold reserves are valued at $42.22.22 per Troy ounce, and they could re-value them at market value of $3,300 per Troy ounce, which is just ridiculous. The idea here, we know where this is going. Trump wants to print. He's putting pressure on the Fed. Powell's out in May of next year, if I'm not mistaken. If not earlier, those whispers keep going around. There was talks of having dissent in both the Treasury position and the central bank position. And even last week, we're talking about how Redali was. talking about QE and the government getting involved in the central bank,
Starting point is 00:33:54 we're basically end of the debt cycle stuff. And this is exactly what we're seeing here. The response is going to be print more money. It's going to be basically we're going to have to kind of accelerate a little bit downward here. Things are going to get worse team. But in terms of those that are holding on to Bitcoin, we know exactly which way it's going to go. And this revaluing of gold, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I want to point it out because in the footnote, let me just find it here for us. We had said in that document from the Fed was one of the possibilities of using proceeds from valuation gains on gold reserves has been floated in the U.S. and Belgium recently. And attached to one of the footnotes there says the idea has come up in the context of helping establish a strategic Bitcoin reserve or a sovereign wealth fund directly in the footnote of that Fed paper. So this very well could be the way that they're looking at budget neutral acquisition of Bitcoin. Revalue the gold, sell some of it by Bitcoin or borrow against it,
Starting point is 00:34:46 maybe. That's wild. Right. Yeah. It's it just, it just, it just, feels like again to the previous segment um there's there's so many things that are are just right there but like preparation stages and my my you know lizard brain high time preference is like why is this not all like actually pull the trigger already because you know i'm i'm just used to that mentality and it's hard to to get out of it but i obviously things take time so Um, you know, and, and I'm not, uh, I'll also kind of add in, you know, I'm not necessarily a fan of governments, uh, you know, having the exorbitant privilege of being able to print themselves out of financial ruin. But we do know that governments, uh, do not have self control when it comes to spending. So even if they are able to give themselves a leg up initially, uh, to keep, uh, to keep,
Starting point is 00:35:50 emulate a bunch of Bitcoin, you know they're going to blow through it. You know they won't be able to hold on to that shit as soon as people stop accepting their monopoly money. And they will stop accepting their monopoly money. Absolutely damn straight. There's really no other way it plays out. And it's funny because even some of the most brilliant minds I have the opportunity to talk to, in the short term, we may have disagreements about where things going.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But if you just lay out the incentives and take a really long time frame, it's like, yeah, I can't make an argument against that. That's probably what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. pretty wild. Well, we're going to take a little break here, but on the other side, you mentioned earlier, you know, this gentleman James who lost back in the day a hard drive with like 8,000
Starting point is 00:36:33 Bitcoin. And he's been on the hunt. And there's some interesting developments around him and some upsetting ones, not just in and around like his hunt, but also how he's handling it. not what you like to see. Also, apparently, like the largest heist in Bitcoin history in dollar-denominated terms went completely unnoticed. So we're going to talk a little bit about that. And plenty of fun other things have been going down this week. So we're going to come back and chat that in just a moment.
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Starting point is 00:39:34 with just the email address to win a cold card queue every single month in perpetuity moving forward. So make sure you do. They're so pretty. But nonetheless, let's. Let's chat about Mr. James Howells. And so anybody unfamiliar with James 2013, he threw out a hard drive. He thought it was an old spare of his 8,000 Bitcoin on it. It ended up being sent to the landfill in Wales.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And he spent basically 12 years trying to find this thing. And he's tried to sue people, assembled teams, you know, he's proposing using AI robot dogs to excavate the site. Again, a lot of rejection from local authorities, all this stuff. And yeah, so a final court ruling in January of this year, denied him access. and he has officially ended the search. But this is not the end of the story. You may be thinking, poor guy, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And yes, I agree. Super unfortunate. That's a tough lesson. You know, and hopefully somebody would glean from this, like, you know, big mistake, but this is going to have value. going forward and that should not impede me from stacking sats now learning from this very very expensive mistake and building a future for my family in the most responsible and uh you know ethical
Starting point is 00:41:29 way that i can unfortunately james is tokenizing the lost 8 000 bitcoin What is this called? C. Cenoid coin? I don't know. Anyways. So built on Bitcoin, powered by Ob return, integrates with stacks, runes and ordinals launching in late 2025.
Starting point is 00:42:01 The vault is mine. And I say the show goes on. Basically, he's saying that he's tokenizing the lost Bitcoin and allowing people to buy his tokens that represent the lost Bitcoin if it ever gets it's just how do you feel Nathan
Starting point is 00:42:27 it's a tragic comedy like my mind is already putting together what this movie looks like the unfortunate thing and I feel for the guy and that could be probably one of the most seductive terrible things that may have happened because how much time effort resources energy was wasted on this that could have been better spent working on a different project or getting pitched, you know, even just having like some other sort of income or business and just stacking stats.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Like it would have been better. Again, it's easy in hindsight. You don't know if you're going to find it, but man, the odds of finding that thing would have been small to begin with if it wasn't completely destroyed or gone. That you wouldn't better off just focusing on building the stack anew from that point and just moving on, just moving on from there. Put all your time and energy and attention to that. And learning about Bitcoin, and maybe you wouldn't think that this was such a good idea if you were learning about Bitcoin. going along the way. It's funny because my immediate vision is like, I already see the movie on this,
Starting point is 00:43:18 right? That like you spend all that time digging for it. And who knows, maybe it's not even there, right? Like you're assuming that you threw it out, but especially after years, how sure are you that it's actually there? This is a tragic comedy. It's just sitting in somebody else's closet right now waiting to be discovered. Yeah. And I've got to imagine like, again, how many resources, like you said, he piled into this hunt over the last X number of years. And think of even just some of the price opportunities that have presented themselves. And just in like even recent memory, like the COVID crash of 2020, Bitcoin was like $4,000. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 How many people would kill to be able to buy a $4,000 Bitcoin right now? Like that they, you're not lying when you say like those resources would have been better. allocated into just stacking over this period of time. And that's that in and of itself is a tough lesson too. And I think that there's again, this sunk cost fallacy and like how do you, how do you come back from that? And you know, unfortunately the answer for James here was I'm going to launch a shit coin and try to get.
Starting point is 00:44:39 society to to buy this tokenized lost Bitcoin and make up for my unfortunate early mistake. It feels like shortcuts, right? Like it's so easy to say in the position of not having lost 8,000 Bitcoin, but you would have been better off just doing work and focusing on your craft and stacking Bitcoin. And the same thing here. Like launching a token is just you trying to shortcut your way to having basically Fiat gains. And it's like, it's what got you kind of in this mess.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Or it's what wasted your time in the first place. Don't, don't keep doing it. Don't keep doing it. Just focus on building other things. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Now, you know, we're talking about lost Bitcoin here. This next little tidbit that I want to touch on is about lost Bitcoin. And it kind of harkens back to the first section where we're talking about impacts on supply.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And this is just a crazy one because it's the biggest. Bitcoin heist in history that nobody even knew happened until very recently, 127,000 Bitcoin stolen. Now, in Bitcoin terms, not the largest heist in history or the largest loss in history. That still, if I'm not mistaken, Mount Gawks, that was somewhere between 650,000 and 850,000 coins. Wow. For context, that's say,
Starting point is 00:46:07 there's entire stack right now yeah yeah exactly yeah um now some of that was recovered obviously and so and so forth but um nonetheless in dollar terms at the time that this happened is the biggest okay so um this was a little known chinese mining pool called uh lubian and again 127,426 Bitcoin. It was $3.5 billion at the time. Currently would be worth $14.5 billion. The largest digital asset heist in history, bigger than Mount Gogx in terms of the dollar value and the by-bit hack, which was $1.5 billion in 2025. It occurred on December 28th of 2020. And went on until this month when a blockchain analytics firm, Arkham intelligence revealed it. At the time of the breach, Lubian was among the top 10 Bitcoin mining pools, controlling 6% of the global hash rate.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It reportedly had operations in China and Iran. Arkham says that on the day of the hack, hackers stole over 90% of their Bitcoin in one sweep. Two days later, six million of Bitcoin and USDT was stolen from Lubin using Omni lair. And what's even more astonishing is that neither Lugian nor the attackers ever publicly acknowledged the theft. Arkham team says the incident was buried for years until they connected the dots through forensic blockchain analysis. Again, after realizing the scale of the theft, Arkham, sorry, Lubian tried to recover its assets. The mining pool sent tiny Bitcoin transactions to the hacker's wallet address. They contained off return messages that allow you to embed text into transactions.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And they talked about return of the assets and a possible reward. And so like some of the images, message from LB to the White Hat who is saving our asset, you can contact us like, well, just hoping, just hoping that they will return it through this email to discuss the return of assets and your reward, like the person. and it's going to give up the billion dollars they just got away with. So how did they get hacked so easily? Apparently, it's believed they had a faulty private key generation used an algorithm with it was brute forcible.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Jesus. Where hackers tried every combination until they guessed the private key. So it just goes to show like don't go and try and, you know, do your own keys. and so, like, humans are really bad at being random. So like, don't try and roll your own encryption. So this one vulnerability allowed to attack us to access and move most of their Bitcoin without much hassle. After the theft, they managed to recover about 11, almost 12,000 Bitcoin, which was moved into recovery wallets in December of 2020. these coins are still untouched and now worth $1.35 billion.
Starting point is 00:49:30 The stolen coins sat idle for years until July of last year when Arkham noticed a large wallet consolidation. This was the first movement of the stolen Bitcoin since the attack. Today, the wallet holding the stolen funds is the 13th largest Bitcoin wallet in the world. The hacker is still undone. and there has been no movement of the fun since 2024. This is insane. What do you think about this? It's,
Starting point is 00:50:00 it's funny when I first saw the headline, I kept thinking to myself, did somebody not check their balance for years? Like, you just imagine you're just part of this, you just weren't looking, you go and it's like, I got to move a little bit out and all of it's gone. That is just,
Starting point is 00:50:12 it's impressive that they were able to keep it under wraps on both sides that never necessarily came out, especially when the Republic message is going back and forth between, the two. My first instinct is that's a state actor. I don't know who, but that's a state actor because maybe you could be so scared. And if you were so aware of Bitcoin in the early days, the only thing you can think of is one or two things. Somebody took the example of Satoshi in that in terms of like anonymity and privacy would be key to one pulling this off. And we're very scared to actually touch or use what they had stolen. But I'm guessing this is probably a state actor. And so we're
Starting point is 00:50:51 talking about that Bitcoin adoption on the nation state level. There might be somebody that's way ahead of where we think they are because maybe haven't publicly disclosed and are trying to figure out the best way to go about saying, we're sitting on 127,000 stolen Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Can you imagine a country announcing their strategic reserve of 127,000 Bitcoin?
Starting point is 00:51:16 And that's probably part of it, too, like just waiting to see if somebody noticed, like, where the coins were. If it is a state actor that does want to establish a reserve or something like that, you're probably about to see a whole lot more liquidity when it comes to either wasabi or the newly launched pork of samurai. Oh, dear God. And it's funny, too, because especially as we progress in this timeline, as more and more nation states get into nothing that is the case right and maybe there's a little bit of blend between
Starting point is 00:51:54 government and you know some corrupt hackers on the side there as well but the geopolitical implications because these were stolen from a chinese pool as well so i doubt it was the ccp i doubt it was russia so if it was it would be somebody on the other side and they might be pretty pissed off if anybody finds out but again total speculation that just to me smells like state actors early state involvement Nathan, would you say that hacking a Chinese minor is budget neutral? No, you got to pay the intern 40 grand a year to do it. Oh, Lord. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Well, I want to shift gears a little bit here. I wanted to bring this up. I just watched this the other day, but it came out six days ago. It was removed. It's not allowed to be broadcast in the UK. And it's a it's a coinbase ad. Now, first off, let's start by saying don't use Coinbase. But credit where credits do, they've got some banger ads that outline what is wrong with society and how Bitcoin fixes this.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's just unfortunate that the solution they're putting forward to people is. to gamble on shit coins. Yeah. So I did want to give this a little watch just because it is. It's a fun video. I quite like it. I think it did a good job. But yes, this was disallowed from airing in the UK.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It was pulled from broadcast. So let's take a look. We ain't got no troubles. We ain't got no troubles. No reason to complain. Because here in great old Britain, we just love it when it rained. Morning. We're cozy heat at home.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Even though it's not our own, but wait a few more years and you can sing. Everything is just fine. Everything is grand. Your life to get the better when you're living by the letter in this pleasant land. Everything is just fine. Everything is great. The streets can't get no cleaner nor the rat meat any leaner No life is just first-rate
Starting point is 00:54:25 Everything is just fine these fish fingers are a steel Price is up a smidge just a hundred quid a meal Empty purse but hay could be worse if there was nothing in the fridge Strategic realignment means I get to work for myself Yeah Pay off my law degree With tips from each delivery Excuse me sir I have your tandory
Starting point is 00:54:59 Everything is just fine Everything is grand Your life you get letter To bring on We're doing our bits We're off to Dubai It's time to jump ship We're time in our belts with a sip of a lip
Starting point is 00:55:33 Because everything everything everything just for yeah i i quite enjoy that i think they do a good job there yeah their marketing team did fantastic it's a it's a wonderful combination of like do you know the keep calm and carry on kind of propaganda that they used during the war um that really stuck in the culture it's like just taking that and bring it to an absurd level and throwing in some mary poppins for fun yeah it's the choreography really really quite good again unfortunate that there's solution is join Coinbase and let us peddle you shit coins. Because it's funny that that is the mentality of the generations coming up now is like the only way I'm going to make it is gamble.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And unfortunately, outside of offering Bitcoin, that's what Coinbase is. That's the solution they're offering is come gamble. And that's the whole platform is tailored towards that. It's just scrolling marquees of this went up this much. This dropped this much. Buy, sell, trade. Give us the commissions on your buys and sells. That's pretty much what it is.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And keep everything on platform. No, let's not do that. That's not like a terrible idea. It's a very good ad. I wonder from the marketing perspective, I think it would have even performed better if it would have had some message about Bitcoin and then flashed Coinbase because Bitcoin's got that brand recognition as well too. So even from like a strategic marketing standpoint,
Starting point is 00:57:08 I would have still mentioned Bitcoin before flashing your Bitcoin Casino. Yeah. Well, and that's what a lot of people I've seen previously have taken coin. Because Coinbase, they've got a killer marketing department. People have taken previous Coinbase ads. And at the end where they just show Coinbase the logo, they just replace it with a Bitcoin B. And then the ad. It reminds me like the NFT bullshit.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Like, this is my ad now. This is my ad now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's, it's screenshot it. It's mine. Yeah. It's, uh, yeah, I mean, credit where credits do. Good, you know, good advertisement for pointing out the flaws in society.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Um, but yeah, uh, I wanted to touch on a couple other, uh, quick things here that I think are, are worth mentioning. Uh, so I was in Lugano when they unveiled, uh, the Satoshi Nakamoto, uh, statue, which, funny enough, does not look like that. Yeah, not that one. But, yeah, so there's a Satoshi Nagamoto statue, and it's one where he kind of disappears. It's like slates of metal. And so depending on the angle you view it at, he kind of disappears. Well, the statue disappeared because somebody stole it and then dumped it in the lake.
Starting point is 00:58:34 So they were able to recover it. And now there's a petition to put it back. up. I did see a handful of pictures of Bitcoiners in Lugano sitting in the place where Satoshi sat. Somebody had a pretty funny take, a picture of the empty statue and saying, well, to be fair, this is a more accurate depiction of Satoshi. Yeah, just nothing there. That is true. Yeah. Yeah. So either way, screw the vandals. they did recover the statue and hopefully they restore it
Starting point is 00:59:10 back to its former glory. It was a pretty cool piece. I completely agree. I think what we have to do for next time. I mean, if you can think about it was Henry Ford, the idea of having like an energy currency, and that's essentially what Bitcoin is. So what we need to do is need to improve upon the statue. Same thing, 240 volts going through it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Leave it alone. It's our energy money, our energy statue. I think that'll deter the vandals next time. Yes, 100%. 100%. Now, we have to give out, a shout out to co-host on the show,
Starting point is 00:59:42 your co-host for Mentor Session and then occasional co-host of the news. If you happen to be away or I happen to be away, of course, Gary was out there with Rob from Bitcoin News, and they gave away Bitcoin to random New Yorkers and used Aqualot to do it, and they were
Starting point is 01:00:05 sending over somewhere around five bucks, something like that, 4,500 sats to each individual, set them up with a wallet. And they actually got a pretty warm reception. I thought it was a great video. You know, it's a couple minutes long, but it's just them chatting to people on the street and their genuine reactions of people, in some cases, getting their very first Bitcoin wallet and receiving it into self-custy, which is actually pretty cool. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:34 You watched it. I imagine. Oh, yeah, of course I did. You like it? Come on. He is the Ernie to my bird, or maybe he's a little bit more grumpy. So, of course, I'm going to watch my buddy's video here. And it was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And I love the idea. It's funny. Even talking to him afterwards, they got a lot of warm reception. But I don't blame them. I feel like New Yorkers in particular would be super skeptical. But, like, it went hard. And a lot of people just looked at them like they were crazy as well, too, which you would fully expect.
Starting point is 01:00:56 It's, it's so interesting that you can do in a day and age for like, everything's happening. And no one's paying attention. and then people are trying to give you the best money and you're just you're too afraid to what's up everybody i'm rob and yeah it's um you know it's it's cool to see uh and and they're both they're both so well spoken and articulate and uh have great personalities that it's just it's just fun to watch so i think gary needs to do more of this uh i recommend that everybody go over and uh make sure that you're following bitcoin news calm uh because i think they intend to do you're tend to do more of this.
Starting point is 01:01:35 If I'm a mistake. I should definitely get back out there and do more. If you have any other other ideas of how Gary and Rob can go out there and embarrass themselves on the street of New York for our own entertainment and Bitcoin adoption, go there, leave a comment. I'm sure they'll, they like the attention. I'm sure they'll do it. Yeah, a hundred.
Starting point is 01:01:51 A couple of quick things to round out here. And I mean, not exactly a quick thing. I think this is pretty awesome. So $3 billion YouTube competitor, and we like that, given that it wasn't too long ago that you and me on a live stream were literally banned from YouTube, like midstream. But Rumble announces it will integrate Bitcoin Lightning Network for tips, which is awesome. You know, we've seen rumblings of this before, pardon the pun. But yes, you know, the CEO of Rumble, Strategic Bitcoin Reserve, for the company, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:32 But yeah, Bitcoin wallets indeed rolling out and indeed will be lightning capable, which is super awesome. I hear that they're going to be using Spunk. I could be mistaken on that. But that could be interesting. And it's like state chain, lightning enabled state chain stuff. I'm still a little fuzzy on exactly how that works. I've messed around with state chains in the past.
Starting point is 01:03:04 A little fuzzy. I'm going to have to do a deeper dive on that and exactly how that back end works. So I don't know, stay tuned for that. New tutorial. Coming soon. I think this. Yeah, yeah. I think this is great.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I think having, and it's not, you know, Rumbles is a good size platform with meaningful creators on it that have large followings. and you can actually get pretty damn good viewership on Rumble. And to have them integrating Bitcoin, it just opens up a whole new realm of possibilities and gives them a huge differentiator between them and Bitcoin. Like, yeah, there's the, we're not going to censor you piece of it. But then there's now the built-in payments assets. of it, which I don't anticipate YouTube doing either of those things. The one thing on this that really excites me is it feels almost like a PG version of the Silk Road in the sense that a lot of the people that are going to Rumble is because the content that they want, they can't get on YouTube or they have an ideological position where they want to be on that.
Starting point is 01:04:16 They're willing to make that transition, go be there, go spend their time there, right? Because network effects, Rumble's still behind YouTube, but they're doing the best that they can. Think about how many people learned about Bitcoin because they just wanted drugs. and that was enough of a motivation for them to go through that process. And now you're going to have a lot of people that, you know, they already have an audience. The audience is already very invested in that creator if they're over on that platform. How many people are going to try and figure out a lightning wallet just because they want to be on Rumble?
Starting point is 01:04:42 They want to be there. They want to support that creator. So I think it's a good funnel for a lot of people to give them almost like that same with Gary. That first little got to get your five bucks and try it out a little bit, that first introduction, that first touchpoint with Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's super positive to see.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And, you know, that as soon as it is available, I'll be doing a tutorial on how to use the Rumble wallets and how to, you know, go from Rumble to, you know, cold storage and all that kind of stuff. Just making sure that people are able to navigate that, especially the newcomers that inevitably will come along with a platform's largest Rumble integrating it, which is really cool to see. So a couple other things earlier this week dropped a tutorial on the nerd specifically the nerd QX plus plus. This thing's a beast and I got a custom crypto cloaks print with the logo on it, which is so badass. Dude, things sizable. Like it's not like a little bitax. It's like I'm going to say like double in. kind of double the height, maybe not quite like, you know, one, one and three quarters or something
Starting point is 01:06:00 like that. Anyways, it's big, but actually pretty quiet when it runs. And it's 4.5 terra hash. Yeah, yeah, like a regular bid axe for some of the newer ones, I think, are clocking in and around one tarahash. So like four and a half times as much hash for one of these things. And it doesn't consume much electricity. So in the tutorial I go through setting it up in the most simplistic way, just like solo mining, using like CK pool or something like that.
Starting point is 01:06:39 But then I also show how to set it up for pooled mining both in just like through a regular pool and then like fully solo like through your own. own CK self CK self hosted solo pool on your start nine or uh through a through like brains with lightning payouts to your own lightning node so like all not even brains sorry I did um ocean ocean payouts um so yeah anyways I go through a whole bunch of different ways starting with the simplest way to use it to more self sovereign and then I also point people towards my full on like run datum on your own start nine tutorial if they want supplemental anyways i quite enjoyed this thing i really i've got my whole array set up i've got like three three kind of like variations on the bit axe plus this thing plus a brains mini minor plus a future bit and then at the very end
Starting point is 01:07:46 not in this tutorial itself but um just to kind of see what my cumulative hash rate look like like and and what my chances of mining a block daily were. It was like with all those devices running, it was like I had a one in six or 700,000 chance per day of mining a solar block. So not bad. Like I don't mind those. Yeah, I don't mind those lottery odds. And so like, yes, you know, odds are still that I'm not going to mine a block.
Starting point is 01:08:20 but like that sounds pretty good to me like it's better than buying a lottery ticket a hundred percent you find a block you got to make sure you at least buy the team a beer we'll go with a beer got to buy around oh yeah uh well we'll get more than a bit sounds good it's just just you all it'll be more bribing you guys there's that too yeah to block got to make sure we keep it under wraps yeah yeah either way uh check up the tutorial and if you need some other supplemental information in and around anything Bitcoin. We do recommend that you check out the learn page, the zero to hero page, and there's a convenient QR code for you guys to check that out.
Starting point is 01:09:05 If you're unfamiliar with the learn page, we've got beginner, intermediate, master level tutorials just pre-selected for various topics, mobile wallets, hardware, buying Bitcoin, you know, privacy, mining, nodes, all these different things with some pre-selected just singular videos that you can check out. But if those don't quite tickle the itch for you, then you can dive deeper into full playlists on a lot of those topics as well. And if you're going through all this, which if you do, you're going to be like so far beyond your average Bitcoin in terms of practical skills.
Starting point is 01:09:42 But if you go through this and you're like, I just need some additional help. You can, of course, reach out to us over at Bitcoin Mentor. And that's just down. I love this new banner here. It's so pretty. Look how good Gary looks. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:55 You always got to put him beside. He has a strong mustache. He's got to grow that thing back. It's gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah. Man, we just look like a big pile of puke next to Gary. Everybody does.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Everybody does. Everybody does. So anyways, reach out if you'd like to chat with any of these handsome gentlemen or the other incredible mentors over a Bitcoin mentor to help you through your self-custy. set up to make sure you're rock solid on it. Now I am of course not at home. This is not my studio. And where am I? I'm in Riga for Baltic Honey Badger, the most OG Bitcoin conference in the world. I was here last year. I'm here again this year. I love it. They always do such a good job. Put on actually by our friends at Hoddle, Hoddle, and Devify. These guys have been around forever.
Starting point is 01:10:48 and yeah, there's just such a great event with solid bitcointers and no compromise on quality of content. So very happy to be here. And on the other side of this, I'm going to be home for a few days. And then I've got another quick foray to learning Bitcoin in Vancouver, which I'm very excited about. We'll be seeing some of our friends there as well. Pablo from Bull Bitcoin is going to be co-hosting a bunch of educational stuff there too. I'm going to be at the unconference the day before as well put on by me premier Bitcoin and doing a talk there as well as helping with and and participating in some of the
Starting point is 01:11:29 programming at learning Bitcoin itself. So if you want to, you know, it's maybe a little late to pull the trigger on Baldock Honeyback, maybe not. Maybe you're host to Latvia. But if not, and you want to or can be in the Vancouver area, be sure to come and check it out. Head over to BTC Sessions.com. And there's an events page that you can hit up at the top.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And you'll see links for learning Bitcoin. And you can use a code sessions to get 20% off as well. So yeah, very much looking forward to that, lots going on. But also very much looking forward to being back home and being able to work in the familiar office. It's been a whirlwind. Of course, I had a family vacate, too. Thanks for holding down the fort for me while I was away, too. Oh, happy to do it.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I think after nine plus years of going straight, you can have a week or two off. That seems reasonable to me. This is the first time that I actually did not do work for two solid weeks. And Mrs. Sessions made sure that I did not relax for a single moment of it. Of course. It was, it was, but it was good. You know, kids love the rides. Side note, eight-year-old daughter, we hit the Veloccoaster, which is insane.
Starting point is 01:12:59 She did it seven times. Oh, my God. It's this, this roll. I'm screaming like a baby the whole time, every time that she made me go on it. It's incredible, but like she loved it. And my other son is four, so he can't quite do the thrill rides yet, but we'll break him in. You get him ready. Well, it sounds like you guys had a fantastic family trip, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So glad you're able to get away. And it seems like we're, fingers crossed, we're not quite at the end yet. But I think we successfully did not burn down the channel in your absence. Yeah, it's still standing. We're here. We didn't get banned. Yeah, we've almost made it. So, yeah, a couple events ahead.
Starting point is 01:13:44 but I will be present and here for shows moving through all this. And yeah, very excited for it all. So anyways, I guess we'll wrap it here. Dude, thanks for everything. Everybody that's watching, of course, I forgot to mention it a whole bunch of times the show, but make sure you slap that like button. Give us. And yeah, we'll see you guys next time.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Keep stacking stats. Keep stacking skills. I'm Ben, this is Nathan, and this was your weekly session. We'll see you guys soon.

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