BTC Sessions - WHY ARE WE BULLISH? Adrian Barek, Beau Turner, Florencia ep458

Episode Date: December 7, 2024

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome to this show, another Friday, another episode of Why Are We Bullish? Got an awesome panel. I hope everybody's having a good week. Definitely a bullish week. Wild to see Bitcoin over 100K for the first time in history. Pretty epic moment. So very excited. It's going to be a good time. Good time today. Of course, this is live. Anything can happen. And so I defer to my friend Bill here. We'll do it live. Okay. We'll do it live.

Do it live. I'll write it and we'll do it live. Now, if you have not already, like, subscribe, share, all those things they really do help a ton getting this content in front of our eyeballs. I am Ben of the BTC sessions. This is your daily session. Now before we bring in our guests,

let's take a quick look at where we are in the market right now. I'm pulling up timechain calendar.com. We are currently sitting at $100,696 per coin. A single U.S. dollar will now grab you less than 1,000 sats, 993 sats at the moment. In terms of fees, next block, 11 sats per V-byte, and in terms of Bitcoin mine, we're sitting at 19.79 million, which is 94.24% of the total supply. We're going to give a quick shout out to sponsors of the show, and we'll be back in about a minute to bring in our panelists. So we'll see you guys coming right up.

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Thank you guys so much for being here and coming to get bullish on a Friday evening. Let's do a quick round of intros for anybody unfamiliar. Adrian, I'm going to toss it to you first. Give yourself a little intro. Who are you? What do you do? Awesome. Thank you. I'm stoked to be here.

you and I met in Costa Rica poolside thanks to Pablo and if you're in the Bitcoin or an Oster space you know who Pablo is and it was just the world was a little topsy-turvy and it still is but it was kind of cool to connect with the families and just have a barbecue and throw them in the pool and thanks to that same interview of Pablo who orange-pilled me I've been on a mission to write a novel a BTC inspired novel for for women and girls who I'm trying to orange pill with a story as opposed to the thing Bitcoin itself. And yeah, I'm excited to finally say that I'm done the thing or pretty damn close to done the thing. I'm giving it to somebody else because I can't take it to the end zone and I'm just stoked to be here. Hell yeah, man. Well, it's good to see you. And again, we were saying before we started the show, I met you had a very interesting time because it was in the midst of the Canadian trucker protest.

and, you know, myself, my family had already planned a trip down to Costa Rica. And when I got there, I met up with you and another individual, both Canadian expats that escaped the ice wall. But it was a very interesting time because I actually didn't know if I was going to be able to get on a plane to get down there because that's when everything was hitting the fan. You know, there was... Yeah, yeah, there were lawsuits going on.

There were, it was the middle of all of the crackdowns. And, you know, I was, you know, kind of very directly involved in a lot of that. So, yeah, you met, you met me at one of the craziest times in my life, I will say. Credit to you, it didn't feel like that. You were a cool as a cucumber. We were just hanging out. That's a put a viva vibe for you. Yeah, it was, it was all hidden, pushed deep below.

It was, it was the I'm okay, Wojack face. Chris went on there. Yeah. Awesome. Well, let's toss it to Bo. Dude, good to have you on the show. Give yourself an intro. Who are you? What do you do? Appreciate you, Ben. Hey, everybody. I'm Bo Turner, the CEO of Abundant Mines. And I started out in real estate development and built and managed a portfolio of rental properties across the southeast of the U.S. And everything changed for me when I saw the potential of Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining years after being first exposed to it and really fell down the rabbit hole. of mining being the key to our abundant energy future. So I started selling off all my real estate in 2021 when I moved to Oregon.

And as of this year, sold my last property to be 100% Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining allocated. And after I had an initial expensive experience with a bad co-location host to the tune of about half a million dollars, I used my engineering background to build what I wished existed when I was getting into mining. And so now super proud to offer people that service through abundant mines where we do truly passive Bitcoin mining for investors.

And we base all our operations here in the Pacific Northwest on hydropower. In my opinion, the greatest place in the world to mine. Hell yeah. Well, that's awesome, man. I love hearing about self-made individuals. Bitcoin seems to do something interesting to people. So welcome. We're going to toss it one more time down the line to flow.

Flo, good to see you. Thank you for rejoining the show. And for those unfamiliar, let people know who you are and what you do. Hey, thank you so much for hiring me. I'm Flo Montoya. I'm an artist. I'm a classically trained artist. And since 2020, I started doing Bitcoin art.

And I haven't stopped since. And I, yes, there is one. And I also work in marketing. I work currently for Panties for Bitcoin. So I'm also wearing like the CPO chief panty officer hat 2A. And yeah, I'm bullish. No, kidding. I'm just super happy to be here and to talk about and to learn more about what you guys are doing.

Awesome. Well, I'm glad to have you and shout out to Panties for Bitcoin again. It was funny when I first heard about the company and saw them at would have been Bitcoin 22, I think it was the first time I came across their booth. But what a great family. And I thought it was a bit of a schick. And then they kind of explained to me like their ethos and everything. And I love them.

I think it's great. My wife thoroughly enjoys their products. And then they started making men's briefs. and they're probably the most comfortable things in the world. So, so. Yeah, it's really cool because we, as a company, like we focus so much on like internally on quality, but externally it's most about like being fun,

being in the ecosystem. So when people try them because of this fun aspect and they realize like, okay, this was really like good quality. This is not like crap. Yeah. Yeah, they're, they're low time preference undergarments, I'll say. which is an awesome thing.

So yeah, that's great. Well, welcome to all of you. Glad to have you all on the show. And we're going to dive in for anybody watching that's unfamiliar. This is Why Are We Bullish. Very simple premise to the show. Each one of us has come with a reason for being bullish in and around Bitcoin. And it can take really any form.

The sky is the limit, whatever your little heart desires to talk about. But the flow of the show is pretty simple. Well, number one, somebody's going to drop their reason for being bullish. This is their chance to rant about what they're currently excited or buzzing about. Number two, altogether, we're going to riff on that reason, comments, questions, whatever, rabbit holes we decide to go down. And then finally, number three, we're going to rotate to the next person until we all had a turn. So reason, riff, rotate.

Only major rule to observe is try not to drop your reason early. So with that, I'm going to dive in. I'm going to get started with my reason for being bullish. and then we'll continue on from there. So I'm going to bring up an article from earlier this year, just to kind of give some context here. So earlier this year, the Human Rights Foundation launched a quarterly webinar to help nonprofits integrate Bitcoin.

And I have been involved in this webinar, helping present and educate human rights defenders, political dissidents, journalists and places where free speech is either non-existent or under attack. And so we've been educating them about using Bitcoin as a tool in their tool belt to fight back against tyranny. And so we've hosted a number of these. And we've had increasing attendance over time. And it's gotten to the point where, you know, we're going through. bare bones basics.

We're, you know, here's a wallet. Here's a few tools that you might want to use. Here's how to accept Bitcoin donations and some basics about how to transact. Well, now we're getting some deeper questions. And we're getting people saying, can we get some more advanced stuff? Can we try some different things? And so we are next week launching a pilot program that is, we're calling it like the advanced seminar series.

But really, we're just giving people more tools in their tool belt to begin educate them, educating themselves on other, you know, Bitcoin related tools, but just like in general freedom technologies. So I'm very excited that next week we're going to be covering three topics with the pilot group. Number one is going to be introducing them to Noster and teaching them about censor. censorship-resistant social feeds and how Noster can help them get their message out in a way that can't be easily censored or removed from the internet. So I'm very excited about that. Noster is about to get an

influx of human rights defenders. And I think that's an excellent cohort of people to be joining the ranks of the other Nostritches out there. We're also going to be touching on coin join because, of course, Bitcoin in and of itself is not inherently private. It's pseudonymous. And so while your identity may not be explicitly attached to your coins through your interactions with the network, you can be attached to specific coins. So we're going to show and teach about how coin joint can help reduce the links between you and the coins that you control and what you do with them, which of course is very, very important in the realm of of human rights. And then finally, we're going to be touching on hardware. You know, if you build a bit

of a treasury, if you're trying to keep large amounts of donations safe and offline, how do you easily interact with hardware to do that? How do you back up hardware? How do you interact with it? What tools are at your disposal to do these things? And so, yeah, that's what we're going to be covering, Noster, coin join, and hardware. And I couldn't be more excited. We get to dive a little bit deeper. I'm going to be flanked by my co-host, Ana Chekiewicz. She is from Russia, and she has worked alongside the late Alexei Navalny and the Anti-Corruption Foundation.

And she's been doing very, very important work. And this year has been also working hand in hand with the Human Rights Foundation and helping put together. and host these webinars. And she's just a fantastic asset to the Human Rights Foundation and is doing incredible work. Also, Alex Lee and C.K. that have been helping out with all this stuff. And, of course, Alex Gladstein for spearheading the whole thing and making it all possible. I think this is bullish as hell. I think that getting freedom tools to the people that most need free,

freedom is such an important initiative. It's been some of the most impactful moments in my time in Bitcoin. And yeah, I'm particularly excited in around the Noster angle. I think this could be a whole, turning a whole new page for Nostr. Sorry, I'm still getting getting over a cough that my children have brought home from school. But yeah, very excited around this initiative. very excited to get rolling with it next week and very excited to report back soon about how it's all gone. So I'm going to open it up to you guys. If you have comments, questions, anything that

you think about the initiative have at or whoever wants to pop in. This is definitely one of those come for the number, go up, stay for the revolution kind of things. I mean, we're all here in some sense because we think there's potential in this for a return, but really the return is the return on freedom and love to see how this impacts far more than just the financial world. Yeah, yeah. It's easy to forget when we're in the West and you're in a country where on average, the financial infrastructure, you know, more or less works for you, you know, apart from being able to reliably just save in the money that you earn. It's easy to forget that there's, you know, whole swaths of the world that just can't even transact and that regularly get, you know,

bank accounts shut down if they can even get one and are just facing financial censorship day and day out. This offers up something for them. And again, we don't really see that covered in the Western media. We see a whole lot of number go up covered, which is a lot of fun too. But yeah, glad to see that we're taking the other angle as well. So yeah. Sorry, I can see how this is like so bullish because when for me and for my family, we entered the Bitcoin ecosystem because of the use case. You are of course very incentivized by because number go up.

But for us, it was like, how do we bring back home? the money because my dad was working for a German company and we had started having problems with the banking and some bank kicked him out the bank he was using for 20 years he said like we don't want you anymore stuff like that and we have been facing stuff like this and yeah those that's that's really tiny when you compare it with what other people are struggling with and I think that's why Bitcoin actually came like to existence it's not uh you you get rich and that's the second effect like us okay cool but that's not the revolution that's not something that's that's going to change the yeah humanity so this painting back here my dad painted this uh it's Prague

and he was from the Czech Republic and he passed away earlier this year and so it's a bit of a bit of memento for me but what inspires me about the Czech people is they had a velvet revolution right they had the shackles of you know the Eastern block telling them how to live their lives with all the authoritarianism and Marxism. And they managed to kind of shrug it off in what's the, you know, that express, a sly roundabout way, right? Like they, they figured a way to just get out from under that and not have it be a horrible bloody thing. And I look at the lunacy in the current financial system and Bitcoin is our velvet revolution. Beautifully sad. And sorry to hear about your dad. That's sad. But yeah, there was,

who was it somebody did a talk specifically on this in Prague and it might have been I was so sad to miss BTC Prague I wanted to go but it's just I have too many children there everywhere so yeah that happens yeah it was it was a hell of a it was a hell of an event but what a unique place to hold it in so yeah yeah I agree and it's um uh again what uh The tools that we're using to improve our lives are also vastly improving the lives of others for very different reasons. So, yeah, it's very exciting. And guys, I've got to sneak one other thing in here. I've got a surprise second reason for being bullish.

Do you mind if I share a little something here? Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. All right. So on December 20th, so two weeks from today, I've got my fourth annual Christmas special going on. And so it's an aggregation of a bunch of different guests.

And the way it works is I've got effectively panels like this, but in 30-minute segments that run for hours and hours. It's a marathon. It's going to be like a five or six hour show. It always is. And every year I get this guy, his name is Rusty, and he's in the comments right now. And he always makes the most epic thumbnails for the show. And he said that he's got a, he's got the thumbnail going.

He said he might add in a few other guests. as well as time goes on. But my God, I'm looking at it right now, and I can't not share it. So yeah, and Rusty's correcting me. Sorry, my main reason for being bullish outside of all of the wonderful human rights things that are happening is this thumbnail. So I'm going to share it now. World premiere of the thumbnail for this year's Christmas show. And God, the work that this guy does is astounding.

So here it is. I need to just dedicate it to just that. That's insane. Wow. That is, so there's Becca up top left with her new baby boy. There's American Hoddle on his tiny little bike with yellow in the basket. There's Jeff Booth. I see Larry Lepard.

There's Mike Dramano. Who else is in there? Who else am I seeing here? There's Preston Fish on a bowl with, with Greg. I see Maidex in Santa Slay. There's Nico. There's Katie the Russian. Who is that

down in the bottom, right? I see rock star there. There's Sean. Oh, my God. This is insane. I feel like if Mad Max Fury Road met the holidays with a Bitcoin theme, like this is it right here. Wow. Wow. Amazing.

Rusty, you got to tell me, you got to tell me who's, oh, that's Tatum. Oh, my God. It's Tatum. That's hilarious. Okay, wait, who is this back here? I don't know who that is. I can't, can I zoom? I feel like I can zoom.

Who is that? I can't tell who this. Sometimes they get away from me, but wow, what an incredible. I'm going to be finding Easter eggs from now until next year, I think. I have my other ones up on the, I have my other ones. up like literally blown up poster size on around my office and they're insane so um who is the guy yeah that's my question there was like a guy creeping above the sign there above the sign oh that was that's sean harris uh when he had a flat top and he was still playing basketball he's one of one of the

meme meme factory uh wow that's epic so awesome uh so anyways that's okay i again oh harry suttock that's who was the Nostashed guy that I zoomed in on. Okay, awesome, awesome. All right, well, I'm going to leave that bullishness there. Rusty, you do incredible work. Everybody should follow World of Rusty over on X. And he's also on Noster. You should give him a follow.

And he'll be at the after party of the show, too. So make sure you guys tune in for that. But we're going to do a rotation here. So Adrian, I'm going to be coming to you next. We're going to take like a 20 second break, give a shout out to one of our sponsors, and then we'll be right back in. So we'll see you guys in about 20 seconds. DeBify.com allows you to borrow against your Bitcoin in a non-custodial way. Collateral is held in a three of four distributed multi-sig with trusted parties.

It provides institutional liquidity providers, loan periods of up to five years with flexible conditions and the best rates. Best of all, no rehypification of your... If you want to check them out today, head over to debify.com or hit the link in these show notes down below. All right. We are back in. And we're on to our next reason for being bullish. So, Adrian, I'm going to toss it to you. I'll cue you up with the same question everybody gets.

Why are you bullish? This is when I'm telling you. There's no more smoking mirrors. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, no, I'm bullish because Bitcoin taught me low time preference. I did not have a good conception of low time preference before getting orange-pilled. And Bitcoin inspired me to write my first novel, which is something I've always wanted to do,

but didn't have the low-time preference to get done. And my journey, hodling, you know, I started in 2018 and then really probably got me in 2020. And so I've been through those ups and downs and, like, you know, hoddle for dear life. And writing a book was that exact experience. It's like there were so many ups when it felt amazing like I've achieved. such a thing and so many just depressing, depressing lows, you know, and it comes by the day. And it's just, I'm grateful to Bitcoin for having taught me that you just, you know, you lower your time preference.

You see it through. You build value over time in hard money and, you know, number go up and, you know, world change. And it's just this amazing poetry that I don't even know how to explain. So yeah, that's why I'm bullish. That's awesome. I mean, I feel like it, you know, we get low time preference in terms of our fiscal decisions, but it extends, it gradually extends beyond that, right?

Like, it's not just like, oh, do I want to spend this now or delay gratification and, you know, be able to purchase more in the future. But it starts to get into your decisions in and around health, in and around. in and around how you interact with your, you know, your close relationships, your family, your spouse, your your close friends. It, I mean, would you say it kind of retools your brain in general? I'm like, I am so much better a human being having discovered Bitcoin than I was before, not because of number of go up, because of all the rest of the things that you said.

Just like, no, I'm not going to have that drink today because I'm on this health kick that I want for three months from now or whatever. Or, you know, I'm going to, you know, there's innumerable examples, but you nailed the big ones, right? Family and health and wealth and, you know, and happiness. And the more you can delay gratification, the richer that you are. And it's been my experience, again, thanks to Bitcoin and to see number blast past 100,000. And then a whole bunch of people be like, it's never going to go under 100,000 again. And for it to dip down again, but then smash back up the same day.

It's just like, this is validating as fuck. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm curious to get Flo and Bo to weigh in here on just general low-time preference changes that they've seen in themselves and others around them since being in Bitcoin. Well, before that, I mean, Adrian, writing a book is no small feat, and it takes a lot of energy. And I'm curious, from your perspective, you know, what do you think was the reason? or the why that made it compelling enough to actually start writing it and who did you write it for you're coming right for my feels bow and i'm going to give them to you uh the the novel started as a fairy tale or bedtime story i told my daughters and it was about a girl and her horse rusty and some

magic stuff that happens and then i around the time i met ben and i was you know the world turned upside down and i was living in costa rica and it was a really cool headspace to be in and I thought, well, what if you take, what if the magic is Austrian versus Keynesian economics? What if, you know, these things that I've learned from Bitcoin form the world building. And I can tell, I can speak to women and girls with a hero that, you know, builds her happily ever after, you know, in a way that would make me proud to tell my daughters, essentially. And so I hope I've achieved that. But, you know, again, all that traces back to, you know, learning more about this, you know,

incorruptible decentralized magic internet money that is what we know it yeah i i i i maybe we'll touch on a little bit i want to i want to hear what flow has to say but um you did give me a little teaser uh read at one point and and and i will say some of the some of the metaphors in and around um even just like the the intricacies of of how the network works with that were really well thought through, in my opinion. So maybe we'll touch on that a little bit. But Flo, I'm curious your comments or questions or whatever, in and around what Adrian said, low time preference general.

Yeah, I think low time preference is such a beautiful gift. You receive and some people have it from before or maybe you are like working on it. But I think, yeah, Bitcoin pushes that. And I, from my perspective, I see, and I can't wait to see more beauty coming into the world because I think beauty is a thing of a low time preference. I was listening to a podcast the other day talking about like a fiat architecture and all of that. And it's like you don't pursue beauty. You have to live into that state. It has to be like your water when you're a fish.

And of course you will create something beautiful. even at times when people had no degrees, they weren't architects, they were just building for practical reasons. And then it's something, because you're thinking of that long time, you're thinking of things that are going to last. So yeah. Look at the art of the masters, right? You know, they sculpted these beautiful things or painted these beautiful paintings that last forever. And then you look at, Seifideon taught me about fiat art. You see what, you know, he's pointing out, you know, I drew a really.

square on a wall and it's three million dollars because a bunch of academic critics tell you that it's modern art what are we doing no yeah if i may one uh for me i in that sense let it's bitcoin got me back into creating art i was so disappointed with the art ecosystem i was finishing like my studies i had studied for a long time in different types of schools and i said like okay this was a way huge waste of time i'm going to do something else And in the in the process, I already like knew about Bitcoin, but when you don't like really understand it and I started understanding it and it pushed me to create stuff. So yeah.

Yeah. It's and and you see the evolution like when you look at Bitcoin related products and and even like attire or or just things that you find. at conferences that people are selling and then in the art itself. You've seen a very quick evolution of those things from

again, from the high time preference world into the reality of what it's like to try and market to Bitcoiners who recognize that the money that they're using actually stores value quite well and then convincing Bitcoiners to part with They're sats because they see value in something.

It holds your feet to the fire and forces you to be better and create better things that speak to the people that want to purchase them, either in that they're going to last a long time and not break down or in that they're really thoughtful. And like the art has meaning behind it and communicates something to the person that wants to purchase it and, you know, put it on their wall. And, you know, early days in Bitcoin, you could pretty much just slap a bee on something and somebody would grab it because there's nothing with Bitcoin on it. And now, now it's different. Now you've got to, you've got to hone your craft and you've got to have proof of work in what you're doing. Because, again, if you're pumping

stuff out there that is inferior quality. I mean, even the pennies for Bitcoin thing, right? Like they're, they talk about like the material that they use and the quality and the stitching and things like that because they say, okay, well, we want this stuff to last. It's not just going to be like some garbage that falls apart in the wash. And I think across the plethora of products that are now being created with Bitcoiners in mind, that's the number one thing. My spending habits have changed in that, yes, I am conscious about whether or not I want to spend money, but it's also in the types of things that I purchase. I'm actually more likely to buy the higher quality, more expensive thing that's going to last a long time.

And I always throw out this example. I've got this table that's in my living room. We were looking for a new kitchen table. And of course, we did the typical we're looking and, maybe the IKEA thing and we're kind of going through and there's all these faux, you know, stone, whatever. And then we were like, why are we buying, why are we spending, say, half the amount on some piece of trash that's going to be all beat up in no time at all? Why don't we spend more and then have it last forever? So I had a good friend of mine who does an amazing work.

you basically create the base from solid oak and then get like a giant piece of stone for the top and put it all together. This thing weighs like three or 400 pounds and it's sitting in my living room. If this house burned down right now, that table would still be standing here. So like, again, it changes your perspective and like you're willing to maybe pay a little bit more if it's going to last and be a quality thing that you can actually enjoy and pass down to your kids and whatever it may be. And I think we're seeing that change. There was a definite shift from people used to fix things and keep them to, oh, everything's replaceable. Is it broken? Yeah, toss it out.

We'll just buy a new one. I think we're going back to the we'll fix it phase. We're going back to the low time preference products phase of consumerism. I think it's it there's there's a definite shift underway. It's a total mindset shift too because many people nowadays, I mean, you already mentioned it. You spend half as much on something cheap, but over the long arc of time, that can be the most expensive decision that you make because you have to keep making that decision over and over and over again. And if you just go for quality up front, you know, odds are you got something much better that you're much happier with that over time costs you far less than continually having to replace and make up for the mistakes of not spending where you should have on something that was going to make a huge difference in your life. Yeah, absolutely. And this is not a product plug, but if you're telling me that I can get Bitcoin quality underwear cup in my balls, like that's, that is worth every cent.

flow, I didn't realize until Ben said it earlier that panties for Bitcoin makes, you know, things for men. Like, you know, Ben, your point is, it's right on bay. It doesn't matter what it is. Something of quality with value is worth paying for rather than the cheap thing you buy 10 times over, as Beau said. And then you're still further behind and miserable. Yeah. I mean, and what's more valuable than cupping one of the most important parts of your body carefully? So I think, you know, and I will say for those that are worried about keeping their masculinity intact with something that says panties for Bitcoin across it, it says P for B on the men version. So my P for B's, and I get to still keep my man card, I suppose. So here we are.

Yes. So grab yourself a pair of P for B's gentlemen. It's the only manly choice. But with that, I don't know, Adrian, do you have any other, anything else you want to tag on before we do a rotation there? Any final takeaway you want people to have from this? I would ask a question that I'm eager for feedback on. So what I'm trying to do is serve what I think is a slightly underserved audience, and that is younger women. and get them inspired about Bitcoin without talking about Bitcoin, right?

If it's a Bitcoin book, they probably aren't all that interested. So how can I tell a story about a farmer's daughter who has to battle the forces civil and kind of sneak in some decentralization and Austrian themes in there? And the challenge I'm trying to think through is like, how do I go and I market this thing? Because on one hand, if I put a Bitcoin or any other B on it, it's going to turn that segment off. On the other hand, I don't want to shy away from the inspiration because I want them genuinely to be like, oh, I should probably go learn more about this thing. And so I'm trying to think, how do you, you know, how do you get a Bitcoin product in the hands,

you know, of people that aren't Bitcoiners? And how should I be thinking about that? So I don't know. That's my question that I'll leave it with. That's a good question. And I don't know that I have a perfect answer. But I'd love to hear in the chat, too, like if somebody has their take on the best way to, to convey some of these messages to that audience.

I would love to hear it in the chat. One way is I go to all the maxis and I'm like, hey, you've got a wife or a daughter or a mother or an aunt or someone that you love who maybe doesn't quite get this thing, like give them this book. So that's one way. But I also, I don't know, there could be maybe not, maybe more wide stream and don't mention the Bitcoin and just like Trojan

horse it. I don't know. I'm eager for comments. I think, you know, we've talked about this with our company is that marketing to Bitcoiners is one of the smallest markets in the context of all the capital and all the consumers in the world that you can address. So if you can find a way to get into the attention stream of your ideal target or the person who makes purchasing decisions for your ideal target in your case, marketing it as a very. values-based book for young women and getting in the places where those young women are consuming content and making those decisions would be my first step. And the story is the story, the message is the message. You just have to put it in a place where it's going to resonate and then you don't

have to position it in any different way than you want it to be, you want it to stand on its own, but it's just got to find the right people in the right context. Great feedback, Bo. Thank you. Hey, Flo, if you want to send me that link in the private chat, I'll put it as a QR code up on the screen. The YouTube chat will block it by default because scammers often will drop links in there. So it'll just assume that it's something malicious. But if you send it to me in the private chat, I'll put a QR code up. for people. Okay. Let's see. Copy that and then I'll, I'll have it up in a minute here. But,

but yeah, everybody, uh, flow's got a link there. And then I'll, uh, I'll put this together in, in a moment, but, um, Ben, I think you said after we order them, we model them and then flow votes on the winner. Yeah. Is that part of, or am I getting my, I'm getting my podcast. I've got, I've got a digital runway set up, uh, and we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, beyond that momentarily. So, so yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, that's going to happen.

So yeah, we'll, we'll have that up in, in no time at all. I love this. I love this, I love this, this code that, that they have for it. So I'll put that together for you in a moment. But we're going to do a rotation here as Well, we're going to go to Bo. As soon as we get back, we're going to do one more quick shout out to show sponsor. And then we'll be back in.

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And also I've seen that you said the five first people to get it will also get a pin for free. Oh, one of the panties for Bitcoin pins. That's awesome. Those are cereal pins. So we only have 210 and we'll give out five. Nice, nice. Awesome.

I don't want to do your moderating for you, but Zeg has a good question. He said, or she said, will there be eggnog? and you let us off with, you've got an egg knock. I did, I did. I've since finished my egg knock, but there will be much nog to be had. Well, said, sir.

Yes, absolutely. Okay, I'm going to put this down here. Oh, that's obnoxious. I don't like that there. We'll leave it off to the side for the time being. But Bo, we're going to toss it to you. I'm going to cue you up with the same question everybody gets. why are you bullish?

Other than this being the first stream of this type, over 100K, which I think is a celebration in itself, if you can throw some emojis on the screen, however that works. We're not on Zoom, so maybe that doesn't work. My real reason for being bullish at this point is time in history, we've got the powers that be in the U.S. actually on our side. and supportive of what we can all do, especially as miners, to work together toward an abundant

energy future and lower the cost of living for all people through energy innovation. And we're not being shut out and, you know, choke point 2.0 seems to be loosening its hold a little bit. So I'm very bullish on the resistance clearing. And, you know, we're expanding pretty quickly this year. And And so that's bullish for us. But in the mining world specifically, you know, we talked about low time preference, but this next 10-year period is going to be unbelievable. And part of that is because of the remaining 6% or so of supply that you flashed earlier on the screen, we've got five of that to get within a 10-year period.

And then it's going to be another 100 years before we get that last 1%. So personally, laser eye focused on those few years ahead because I'm a huge fan of the 80-20 rule and definitely believe that 80% of your results come from 20% of the efforts. But in this case, we've got the 98-2 rule where in a 10th of the period of time, we get 5x the rewards. So I'm so hyper bullish on anybody that's mining right now that's got a 10-year game plan and really just excited. for people that are participating because the people that get in in 2035 are not going to have the same opportunity and the same set of circumstances that make this really a unique time to be alive and so excited to show all of our local communities what this can do in the real world for them.

Hell yeah. It's, I mean, it's wild to hear that stat that in inside of the next five years, or sorry, the next, how many years before the next 5% is gone and we're just down to one? 10 years for 5% and 100 years for 1. That is insane. Again, like people, it's, it's crazy to think how quickly that goes. And I mean, how quickly it's gone before now, right? How, you know, we're, again, we're at 94 point, whatever percent. and that has taken 15 going on 16 years.

And now we're going to be closing in on 99% inside of a decade. And then it's just the existing supply is the existing supply. 1% inflation over 100 years. Crazy. Like down to the last sat. And again, that having schedule. I mean, even, you know, Bitcoin started having. 50 coins every 10 minutes and we're at the 3.125 mark.

That's wild. And that means that inside of, I'm just looking up the halving schedule here, and this is, I'll bring it up, time chain stats.com. But over here on the right-hand side of the screen, future Bitcoin halvings. So the next halving takes us to 1.5625 in 2028. And the halving after that, it's sub one coin for the block subsidy. So that means if you manage to get to being a whole coiner, then your stack is larger than what the entirety of the world's hash rate will be rewarded with every 10 minutes.

and that's that's astounding and like look how quickly it it disappears after that again like you know you know many of us i'm i'm turning 40 uh in march and and so um you know i hope that uh i i hope that i'm alive for a decent period of time um from here on in but i don't think It's unreasonable to say that I'm going to be alive and kicking in, you know, in 30 years. And so, you know, if we go 30 years out from today and we jump forward to like 2054, you know, in and around that time, you're looking at, you know, a million SATs is the block subsidy. Well, in and around a million stats, 1.2 million sats as a block subsidy for the entire world's hash rate. That's wild. People don't realize how scarce Bitcoin is.

The scarcity is going to hit people like a ton of bricks, and they vastly underestimate that. I mean, again, if you look at what a dollar can buy you, in... If you went back just to the panic of 2020 when the world markets were panicking and Bitcoin dumped there, there's a period of time in 2020 where a single U.S. dollar will buy you, would buy you something like 21 or 22,000 sats for a dollar. And now it's nine, it's, it's under a thousand. And so like, again, you could have gotten 22 times as much Bitcoin. four years ago, four and a half years ago.

So it's, it's slipping through your fingers. So, but the people are going to be talking the same way about it four years from now and four years from that, four years from that. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just going to cut you out. I'm sorry.

But it's like I keep, I'm on Groundhog Day where since 2018, I've been telling people, as I'm sure you have, where it's like, hey, you know, as Satoshi said, you might, you might want to get some of this, right? it might turn into something. And every time from like, you know, 6K to 40 to 70, all the way along, everyone's like, oh, that's too much, too much. Like, I got a weight fill of dips. And then, you know, it's doubled that.

You know, it's just like, no, it's just going to keep going that way. But how do you, that's the great challenge. How do you get people to, how do you shake them by the shirt collar and get them to realize that? Yeah. Yeah. I think one of the, one of the ways that I like measuring this stuff is, is how. how much, how many sats your Fiat can buy you? And looking at a chart of that.

And so, again, like a time chain stats, this is time chain stats, rather. Like the one USD buys this much Bitcoin or, you know, a thousand Satoshi's are about a dollar. I think people need to see the fact that your dollars are buying you less and less Bitcoin. And that's what spurs people into going, oh, crap. I could have bought more before. And I see this chart that is trending down and down and down. And it more accurately communicates the devaluation of the dollar versus somebody feeling like Bitcoin's expensive. it's it's no longer oh i missed the boat it's like oh i need to get to the lifeboat i think that's that's

where we can communicate it so yeah dump those dollars before you can't buy anything with him what i'm getting at here i suppose uh flow i'm curious if you have anything that you'd like to add to to to bow's sentiment his bullish sentiment on uh things opening up a little Yeah, I really like your optimistic view. And I think since we're like talking more about price, price is the best way to get people on board. It's like number go up doesn't fail. Like it's useful. And I know we try to focus on the important.

And we're like, no, this is changing society. This is all the things we love. But that comes after. Like you need like people will get because of number. go up and it's it's cool too and and then we we can like get deeper into the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's um and again I I kind of want to touch on what you're saying about regulatory wise how how we've got a little bit of runway. Now I'm curious if you think that you know are are we starting to get out of the world?

or is this just like kind of a delicate time to navigate because there is potential to whip saw back the other way? Well, I think it's going to get very different in the different places of the world. But I don't think, I think we are just entering then, then they fight you stage. I don't think we're over that. I don't think it was that easy. Like, oh, no, everyone likes it. Okay, cool.

Done. I can see that maybe in some places it will be like that. Like they didn't need to fight it. But I can also see that some places are going to get very tough and, yeah, frightening maybe. Bo, what's your feel? Let's say U.S.-centric. How do you feel in the U.S.? Do you think we're out of the woods or do you think there's still some fight left to go through?

So that's, you're contextualizing it right, where when we're talking about national in the U.S., which I consider one of the most important battlegrounds for this, I think we are exiting the woods. But in the, to the Flows point, in the supernational realm, there might still be quite a bit of fight left. There's some, you know, unelected entities that have their fingers going through quite a few. different, quote, independent nations that are going to be very resistant still to what this means. But in my opinion, you know, there's so many ways to take this. But I think the tides have turned in the U.S. And that's very important. And even though we don't want any threat to decentralization, the fact that Orange Man is talking about mining all of the Bitcoin in the USA is

at least to move in the right direction and that we're going to have so much energy that we get tired of having so much energy are more positive than they are negative to me. And it's almost like that is the place that needs to turn in order for us to have a really strong fighting chance on the global stage. Well, and when somebody like Trump says, we want all the Bitcoin mind in our country, that doesn't mean that the rest of the world rolls over and is like, oh, I guess they're going to mine all the Bitcoin. What does that do? It's, it causes a feeding frenzy.

It's like, no, we want to mine some of the Bitcoin. No, we want to mine some of the Bitcoin. And you get a global hash war, right? You get people seeking out the cheapest, most efficient methods of securing resources of securing energy and then utilizing that in a way where they can. you know, be profitable miners. And I mean, that in and of itself is incredibly bullish. The one angle that I'm curious about, and well, you know, there's no really, no real way to answer this, but I'm curious if this administration, you know, we've gone from

a previous administration that was pretty outwardly antagonistic. to one that is just like opening the floodgates like yeah let have at her uh genslers out uh we're just gonna whatever but i mean we also are getting with that like mega coin and and what what a world whatever it was i don't know to my point being um i prefer this to us arresting and jailing devs. But we're also going to have a lot of a mess to navigate in that we've got most of the world that is fully unfamiliar with this stuff. And we're about to have a shit clinic extravaganza like we've never seen.

And we're about to see a bunch of people get rug pulled and, you know, the usual things that happen in bull runs when scammers take advantage of unsuspecting. newcomers. So it's kind of on us to be the educators in the room and help people navigate that. I prefer that people be able to learn and make their own mistakes because touching the stove is an effective teacher. My one worry and the thing that I hope doesn't happen is that I hope that near the end of this presidential term, that there's not some sort of massive, massive blow-up or some crazy thing that happens that is then used as an impetus to enact like really draconian crackdowns.

And so I hope we don't see some sort of a whipsaw like that. I wouldn't put it past a future administration to do that if the timing worked out right. But hey, we've got, you know, I think we've got a four-year runway to build out tools and make them resistant to even that. So, yeah, I hope nobody hears that as me declaring victory so much as declaring opportunity. Yes. Yeah, exactly what it is. It's an opportunity to build and make ourselves more resilient. And the kind of sort of administrations or ideologies that would attack Bitcoin are, in envy like you know we've seen many other ideologies throughout history so i would love to think that they're going to go away it's it'll never right and it's like how many people can we get

on the right side where it's like oh creating a building and value and all all the attributes that you know like they see the value of it how can we help more people get to that point so that when inevitably the envy folks come marching they're just drowned out by everyone like, no, sorry, we're too rich to talk to you. Yeah, yeah. We'll cross our fingers for it. Yeah, I do think that more and more tools are being built in a way that is difficult to shut down. Again, like with the privacy stuff earlier this year, it wasn't a great day for Bitcoin privacy

when a lot of different things have come to fruition over the past year. But in the wake of that, what did we get? Well, people building more resilient privacy tools. And so, again, you get one jurisdiction banning Bitcoin mining and miners move to more friendly jurisdictions. You know, you get one jurisdiction slapping fees and exorbitant taxes on mining. The miners move to a place where it's more economical, right? So it's, for every negative action, there's an equal and opposite positive reaction on behalf of the network and the people that are a part of it. Yeah.

It's the honey badger. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Honey badger don't care. It's, it's, have you guys seen the video of what is the honey badger being attacked by, like, lions or something like that? I don't care. Yeah, yeah, and they're just they're just like clamping down with their jaws on them. He's just kind of like swatting them off.

Did you see the one that he gets attacked by like a poisonous snake? And then the thing bites him and he like kind of feels asleep. And then he wakes up and he continues to eat the snake afterwards. He doesn't care. Yeah, this is a, it's the perfect, perfect metaphor for Bitcoin. It's great. Well, I mean, Bo, do you have any other? final thoughts in and around your topic that you wanted to get off your chest and anything else that you

wanted to touch on in regards to the I guess coming four years and beyond? You know, we were talking a little bit about just the statistics of how hard it's going to be to get your arms around a whole coin with your trading fiat for it over the next, you know, a couple decades. And obviously there's people who have been in mining for years and years who think that this is just a struggle of an environment. But I always urge people, you know, if you're, if you're trading fiat for Bitcoin, it's going to get harder and harder for you to accumulate some. If you are trading energy natively for it, it's actually a better trade, even if it looks like it's getting harder and harder, which it is, by the way. But we get harder and harder as time goes

on as well. So just like you're not late to Bitcoin, the last 5% still a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if that becomes the ruler, the financial ruler for the globe's wealth, 5% is more than enough to want to put some effort into going after it, right? Yeah. All right. Well, we are going to move into our final rotation. Before we do, I'm going to toss out there. One final thing, I want to, of course, give a shout out to my team over at Bitcoin Mentor. So we have, I've aggregated an awesome team of educators over there. I was doing one-on-ones this time last year teaching people how to

how to secure their stack, how to use Bitcoin wallets, hardware, multisig, run a node, even home hobbyist mining, things like that. And I got inundated and I was just so busy that I couldn't even manage the time. And so that was the impetus to create Bitcoin mentor. And now we've aggregated an incredible team of educators that can do one-on-ones with you. But Beyond that, all the Bitcoiners that have been around for a while, you guys are going to have a ton of people asking you about how to do all of this stuff that you have learned over time as well. And so if you don't have the time and or possibly patience for that, you can scan the QR code there. You can become an affiliate of Bitcoin mentor. And that will give you your own personalized link.

and anytime somebody asks you, if you send them your link and they sign up for a session, then you will earn $21 to be paid out in Bitcoin at the end of the month. And that's not just for their first session, that is for every session in perpetuity moving forward. So if you want to stack sats, well, new Bitcoiners stack skills, then scan the QR code, get yourself your own link, and then just put it in your social profiles, post it wherever you are, pin it in a tweet, put it on your Noster profile, wherever you happen to be, and then just sit back and stack some sats. But with that, I'll leave that QR code up here, but we're going to do a rotation and flow.

I'm looking at you. Our final reason for the evening, why are you bullish? I'm super bullish on culture, and I've been thinking more and more about this. And I've talked to people and realized how important it is for a revolution to actually happen. to have a strong culture behind it. And this doesn't mean that the technical things are not going to be important, but it is important to have other people

building from this other side. And in this regard, it's like going into the arts or whatever cultural things, like, for example, the book, but also like the merch stores or brands like Pantus for Bitcoin, like whoever we're around this world. And because I was studying for an art piece about like the printing press. And I realized that some people say the printing press, like what happened historically there when you separate church from the state is that you have an amazing new technology that's

going to change people's lives. And you have a strong culture supporting it, like building from this. And then you also have this will of change, this, you are sick of something. and you need something to happen. And when these three things combine, it's when historically, changes have actually happened. And I think Bitcoin has three things. It has, of course, the amazing technology.

It has, like, we are sick of things and we want them to change. And we are building a strong culture and community. And what I'm seeing is that I think many people are, like, realizing the importance of this. And I'm seeing, like, for example, I'm working with my friend Rebel Money Art, and we're creating a new gallery. And we're working on that. It's a very new project, but it's going to be on a work working place where many Bitcoin are people who go to work. And then it's going to be an actual gallery with we're trying to get the best quality art we can.

And then I'm seeing, as you mentioned before, like the quality of arts itself is going deeper and deeper. and people are, everyone is thinking from their own perspective about Bitcoin. And it's not just about like, I'm going to slap a Bitcoin B. I'm going to try to sell this and I'm a scammer, basically. No, it's like I'm adding value. I'm giving the best I can to you and to the world. And then I receive value in return. And yeah, that makes me super bullish.

I love it. Tell me about the project where you said it's like a Bitcoin co-working space that you're going to be in. Is that right? Yeah, I don't know how much I can say, but let's do it. It's going to be in Denver, and I hope everything is good, and I hope I'm not messing it up by speaking about it. Yeah, we're working very hard because we want to make it like an actual gallery type.

Like we're taking the role of creators. There is, of course, the gallery, then we're going to have the auction house, so there will be a schedule, and you will be a schedule, and you will be able to go physically to see the art for a long period of time. And then at the end of the, you can buy it, but it will still be displayed in actual galleries. And then at the end of the exhibition,

there will be an auction, hopefully, and then you can actually purchase these other pieces. And then it will rotate and you will be, like any time you go to Denver, you will be able to go to kind of what the Bikkim Museum is doing in National. but with a rotating show. That's really cool.

I like that. It's so great for Bitcoiners to have these spaces that they can go to as well. Like, you know, these not just co-working spaces, but cultural spaces to go and kind of appreciate the creativity and history of Bitcoin. And despite us only having less than 16 years under our belt, I feel like the cultural culture is brimming with a lot to take in. And it's a pretty rich history for such a very recent one. And you see that through the art and through the creations of the community. And again, like, Flo, you're doing your art.

Adrian, you're writing a book. I love the idea, again, of communicating stories through these things. And, you know, for something that came from lines of code, very, very literal, this thing does this, to see these creative minds come to the protocol and communicate what the protocol means in their own, through their own eyes and ears and through the way that they communicate through their. medium is such a cool and unique thing. And I mean, maybe, maybe Flo, you could even speak more to that in terms of, you know, how Bitcoin has inspired you as an artist in terms of, you know, how you, how you capture what you're seeing with the culture and the shift in society. Like, how do you begin to capture that through your art?

Yeah, I think it's similar to what we were talking before. with them, like how Bitcoin changes you and it changes your ways and your habits. It's such a base layer. The mechanism we use for transactions and for savings and for storing wealth, it's so at the bottom that if it crumbles or if, like it will make a change on everything you do.

People creating images are gonna express it that way. People who are like, I don't know, coders are gonna come code, you know? And then maybe more coders are going to go into the open source projects instead of like other companies. And for me, it started more of like, because I had studied arts for such a long time, and as I said, like, I was very disappointed.

And I was like, OK, what am I going to do now? Like, I was super stubborn. I studied arts. And now I my dad was right. Like, I'm going to start. And then, but I knew Bitcoin. And I started like going deeper. And I realized that I started creating art about Bitcoin,

and it was a way for me to understand Bitcoin. So what is this thing? So I start with the means. I start with the easy layers, and then you go deeper and deeper. And then I realized I also want to think about how is Bitcoin going to change our future? And how can I represent that? And how can I help into that shift? Like, I don't want to have this Fiat culture anymore.

What culture do I want to have? like where how do I want my future kids to relate in with other people in this world and yeah it kind of goes into that way into that direction that's yeah that's great i i maybe want to jump to adrian here and and kind of pause the same idea and i know we've touched on this a little bit but like you know you know how have you found it difficult kind of communicating uh you know you said that it's it's been a labor of love to to get through this this book that you've written, what were some of the bigger hurdles that you had in trying to communicate things effectively?

I, myself, mostly. I think I probably wrote, and I'm told that this is nothing unique, but I think I wrote five books and then whittled it down to one, right? And most writers will tell you that. So that, you know, I'm trying through metaphor and simile and theme and all these things you read about in like grade 11 English class like what is the author trying to say to us without actually saying it so I've I've been grasping at these different you know metaphors for things like decentralization versus centralization and the impact that that can have and cryptography and you know

blockchain and how do I take enough of that that it feels true that I'm not just completely waving a magic wand and you know like i it has to be rooted in truth because to me bitcoin is is rooted in truth and that's a major theme in the book um but also take a little bit of liberty and have fun so you know it ends up you know if you if you think about like the red and the blue lightsabers in star wars it almost ends up like that where our heroes have this like orange fiery light magic that they use to battle this like green lime greeny slime sludge fiat thing and so it starts in all these you know intellectual places where I'm overthinking it for my own good and be like, well, how do I, you know, reflect scarcity for inflation versus deflate? How do I show all this? But that's too

much. And you kind of go through this wild process. And at the end, we've just got, you know, orange kicking greens ass. I love that. I love that. Now, Bo, I want to go to you, because obviously you're in, in, you know, the nitty, gritty, the practical, the, the hands-on that you're dealing directly with Bitcoin itself. But I noticed behind you, you've got, you know, your own representations and things that you're drawn to for you as somebody dealing directly with Bitcoin, but obviously feels, you know, a great sense of identity in and around the implications of this and are, you know, moving down the line for future generations.

What are you drawn to when it comes to creative things around Bitcoin, whether it be art or, you know, people's writings or whatever it may be? What speaks to you? What have you seen that you've liked, you know, in recent times? So we work with a lot of, and I'm one of these two with half my brain, analytical types between engineers, investors, people who you would consider. making most of their important decisions based on some form of logic or calculation. And they like to believe that, and we like to believe that, but it's not true. And we're almost always making a decision first based on emotion and connection to a feeling and a story, and then justifying it later with some form of logic.

And so as much as I love the spreadsheets and the math and the analytics and the code and everything that makes the system, the beautiful machine that it is, this is fundamentally a human story and we're telling it to other humans. And whether it's mining or it's Bitcoin art or it's education, it's not so much about the mechanics as it is how can you touch a human soul with? what we're working on. That's why we talk about, you know, come for the number, go up, stay for the revolution. This is a revolution that happens within people's, you know, the very depths of who they are once they've spent enough time with it. And definitely gives off culty vibes, definitely gives off religious vibes, but it's, it's very important. And it's a story that, you know, can't be told just with numbers. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I've, you know, I found my taste in creative Bitcoin items and things that I put on my wall has shifted over time.

I think, again, in line with the, I guess, jumping back to the high versus low time preference side of things. You know, I used to grab everything with the Bitcoin B on it. But my tastes have matured. And so now I'm more likely to grab the, grab the, I don't want to say opsec friendly because, you know, that shit's out the window for me. But more so like the thing that you, you know, like if I have like a, okay, perfect example, I bought a silver necklace that made X made. he had them in Lugano and I grabbed it because on it he put a Rubik's Cube and this is a thing that there's a whole story why he started to put Rubik's cubes into all of his artwork or a lot of his pieces but flashback to 2019 we were in Riga we stayed in a room together but we went

with the Bull Bitcoin team and all of us were there for the Baltic Honey Badger Conference. And, you know, back then still, you know, very small. And, you know, it's one of the, I think the longest running Bitcoin-only conference out there. And we had this dinner put on by Bull Bitcoin. And it was hosted in kind of this underground restaurant that's basically like a cave. and it's where the politicians of the city used to kind of go underground

and like scheme about how they were going to run the city and do all these different things and you know, it's pretty wild. And so we had this dinner and there's like a pig on a spit and like all this meat and everything

and we're in this cavernous, dimly lit. It looks like a supervillain's lair where quite literally the supervillain, villains of the time used to lay out their dastardly plants for their subjects. And bitcoins have just infiltrated the space and are having a delicious dinner.

And the people that were in there was like Safedin and Adam Back and Francis Pugliott and like all of these like epic bitcoins. And there's this picture from that dinner and it looks like the last supper type thing. And it's just like, oh, there's these crazy bitconers that have. been around the block and madex ended up getting a seat beside adam back uh during that dinner and adam back as adam back would of course brought a rubyx cube with him in his pocket to dinner and so then madex is is making adam back teach him how to solve the rubyx cube in this setting that i've just described and it was just one of those you know i'm just sat across the table witnessing this but when I saw the Rubik's Cube start to be inserted into his art, I was like, is that?

And yeah, that's the source of it. So I bought this, you know, this piece of its Bitcoin jewelry, but it has a Rubik's cube on it. And nobody would ever know what the hell that is or what it means. But like for me, it's like a formative memory in my Bitcoin journey. And I love stuff like that where it's just like this little Easter egg that you would never know. Or like just little things where somebody might know and you pass by and they see it and they go, that. And so I think that's where I'm at with with Bitcoin creative stuff and art. I like getting something and then knowing there's a story that there's something important there as to why as opposed to.

B. There you go. And I think that's where art is going. And I think that's where the creatives and the space are headed is, is trying to be not necessarily more cryptic, but intentional and having something deeper beyond the surface level. I don't know if you guys would echo that, but that's my feel. Maybe on that note, just a tiny thing is sometimes you want to go super propagandistic and you want to put the B and But it has an intention now. And I think that's what we're noticing.

It's like, yeah, we're going to still use the symbols, the icons, the honey badger, I don't know. But it's more intentional now than just because it's the only iconography I know about Bitcoin, you know. Yeah. And I mean, even the honey badger is great. I've literally got a pin that I put on my jacket just on the collar. And it's just like a gold honey badger. and most people would have no idea but catch the occasional person they go i know

which is awesome they see your your hair and then the honeybutcher yeah i think i know you probably the hair first is the thing that would catch the attention but but who know yeah awesome i mean flow is there anything else that you want to tag on onto uh your topic any other takeaways that you want to kind of wrap with uh in and around that before we put a bow on it No, just to mention that we are like, I think we are building a lot and I hope you guys like people, if they're interested in these sort of things, they pay attention because we're putting a lot of effort

and not just like we're hosting, for example, a show every week and we interview different artists and creators and maybe Adrian can come because we have interviewed writers and it's about the culture itself and we do it in Twitter, like very simple manner. And also, for example, the crew of a Stack Chain Magazine, what they're building. Like, it's a kind of decentralized type of producing that magazine that it has so much value and content.

And yeah, there are a lot of amazing and with value, like a lot of projects with a lot of value popping up. And I hope people check them out. Yeah, absolutely. Well, with that, we're coming to the end of the show. Now, there's something I like to do before the end of the show. I like to go around the room one last time. And I'll give you guys a moment to stew with this, but to give recommendations for the people that are watching that they may find useful.

And this can come in many different forms. Maybe it's just a piece of advice that you wish you would have had when you started your Bitcoin journey. Maybe it's, hey, I love this book, check it out. Or I listen to this podcast. or I love to this movie or check out this device or app or whatever. It can really take any form that you like, but a recommendation for people watching that you think that they should check it out.

And so mine is, we'll say it's a tad self-serving. Not really, it's more community serving, but we've got this event coming up next Sunday. It's just around the corner here. But we're doing the sat market. And so this is a community initiative here in my city of Calgary. We've gotten together with all of the bitcoinsers and said, hey, we're going to put on this event. You guys are all bitcoinsers.

You all understand that Bitcoin is the better money. And you also all have skills and businesses and services and goods that you offer. why would you not rather than just simply earning dollars and then having to take the extra step of exchanging those dollars into Bitcoin, why don't you cut out a step and also accept Bitcoin? And so we've begun creating this circular market here. And we're hosting another one this Sunday. So we're going to have a Christmas market. And we've just put together a website for it.

And so I guess my call to action for everybody that's watching is you may have a Christmas market. is you may not be in and around Calgary or southern Alberta or southern BC or Saskatchewan or maybe even Montana. You may not be in the immediate vicinity and able to make it. If you are, then please do come. We'd love to have you. But if he can, give that QR code a scan. That'll take you to the website. And please share that wherever you can and help us raise awareness of what we're doing, not just for people to attend, but also for people to realize. that they can replicate this and do this where they are. Because I think Bitcoin becomes absolutely unshakable

when you create relationships with your community and you can simply rely on each other and provide goods and services for each other and remunerate each other in a money that nobody else can print. It's easy when you're relying on ramps and off ramps for top-down pressures to shut down those things or regulate those things. But it's incredibly difficult to say you're not allowed to be friends with people you're friends with and interact peer-to-peer.

That is where Bitcoin truly wins if you can establish that. And that's what we're trying to do. And so, yeah, check it out. Bitcoin satmarket.com, scan that QR code, share it wherever you can. And reach out to us and let us know your trials and tribulations, where you are and maybe we can help you with what we've done. And we're trying to put together a blueprint for it. So if you scroll to the bottom there, you'll also find our social.

So you can follow on X and Noster and catch up with us there. But we're going to be documenting a little bit about what we're doing. It should be a good time. If you're in the area, let us know we've got some other tangential events that are happening in and around Calgary that whole weekend. So come join us, come check out the sat market. It should be a good time. But with that, Adrian, I'm going to toss it to you.

Do you have any recommendations for the people watching? Have babies. That's a great recommendation. It's a fun thing to do, too. It's great. It's the hardest thing you'll ever do, and because of that, it's the most meaningful. And with number go up, you have no excuse. Go make more bit corners.

It's the ultimate low time preference activity. Yeah, it's yeah, I would echo that we need more of that, not less It's perfect really fucking hard don't let anyone kid you But it's worth it yeah absolutely Bo I'm throwing it to you Recommendations what do you got? I'd recommend anybody go as deep as you can Wherever you can whether it's connecting through art or connecting through technology if mining is your vehicle, you know, I often say that getting into mining was my second engineering degree, and I mean that with my whole heart, that it was something that I invested a lot of blood, sweat, and tears in,

and has returned far more than just Bitcoin, a lot of return just on investing in yourself. And I'll often say to people, the only return that's higher than investing straight into Sats is investing in your own skills and investing in yourself. And I guess investing in your own Bitcoin skills would probably be the highest return that you could possibly get. So even if it's something like a, you know, you don't have to spend $10,000 on a miner, you can get a little bidax. And we give these a way to clients every now and then as gifts. But whatever you can do to make it very nice. Whatever you can do to make this real for you and connect it to your life and connect it to some kind of learning, the deeper it goes for you. more impactful it is. So in the words of Jeff Booth, don't just give your your money to the system.

Give your energy and your time and you're going to see a whole different kind of return on this. I love that. That's fantastic. And yeah, I mean, keep learning. The Bitax is a great way to become familiar with Bitcoin and mining and how it works. And then you get a little forever lottery ticket. that you can just plunk on the shelf. And, you know, it's better than buying a real lottery ticket, in my opinion. Flo, I'm going to toss it to you. Any final recommendations that you have for people. Yes, I want to recommend a new documentary that came out recently made by a big coiner.

He did everything, the editing, the shooting, everything. And it's called No More Inflation. The site where you can watch it is No More Inflation.com. And he's like promoting it himself right now. And I watched it. We had it. We interviewed him for the thing we do. And it's super interesting.

And this is a film that will be fun and engaging for Bitcoiners. It will lift your spirit. Some of the things, of course, are things you know. Maybe you know more about one topic because it goes through many things. But it's fun to watch. And it's something you can watch. with whomever nor me know Bitcoiner friendly people around the world. And they will get the idea.

It's super well done. Yeah, yeah. Shooter's awesome. He's been putting his blood, sweat, and tears into this. And well worth it. And go support, again, your Bitcoin creators. I definitely dropped some sets on watching this. And yeah.

It's been, it's a fantastic watch. So go check it out. No moreinflation.com. Yeah, hell of a time. And hey, look, he was kind enough to mention me. I'm like up here beside Graham Hancock and Alex Gladstein and stuff. That's wild. That's weird.

But pretty cool. He did a really good job on it. So yeah, great recommendation flow. Awesome. Well, everybody, I want to thank you guys so much for coming out, getting bullish with me on a Friday evening. Great time to be bullish. Adrian, Beau, Flo. Thank you guys so much for your time.

Everybody that's watching, check them out. There's links down below so you can follow them and what they're up to. And you're all welcome back anytime. Appreciate you, Ben. Thank you so much. Cheers, guys. I'll see you. Have a good weekend.

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