BTC Sessions - WHY ARE WE BULLISH? Ser Ulric, Humble Warrior, Midy Reyes ep435

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

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What is going on, everybody? Welcome to the show. Another Friday, another episode of Why Are We Bullish? Still on the road, almost home briefly before I head out to Baltic Honey Badger. But we're still doing the show. We're still here. We've got an awesome panel today. Awesome people coming again to get bullish on a Friday.

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Yeah. If you have not already, please do like, subscribe, share, all those things they help a ton getting this content in front of more eyeballs. I am Ben with the BTC sessions. This is your daily session. Before we bring in our guests, let's take a quick look at where we are in the market right now, pulling up timechain calendar.com and simultaneously I'll grab up the live chat over on the right hand side of the screen. Everything you say there from here, from here,

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Appreciate it. We were almost running a little late there. I was rushing to get things together and get my setup. I'm sat in like a conference room at a random hotel. But I appreciate you all joining in. So let's do a quick round of intros so that anybody unfamiliar gets to know you. So Humble, I'll start with you. Who are you?

What do you do? Hello, I'm Humble. And I'm a reseller stylist. I also have two Bitcoin brands, as sovereignty and Mickey Nakamoto, as well as a clothing website called The Orange Habit. Awesome. And second time on the show, glad to have you. Thanks for returning. Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely. All right. And Midi, it is your first time on the show. So give yourself an

introduction as well. Well, I'm Midi. I'm a normal pleb. I have a 9 to 5, but I've been in Bitcoin since 2020. And, you know, I was in what clubhouse was a thing. And then Twitter spaces now. So, but yeah, I love Bitcoin. So that's, that's the one qualifying, qualifier to be on the show is you got to love Bitcoin. So you fit right in. Perfect. Exactly. Awesome. Well, thanks for being here. I appreciate you dipping your toes in a Friday panel for the first time. And yeah, no worries. No, worries and sir allrick uh welcome back to the show good to see you again man um can you give yourself an intro yeah no it's a pleasure to be back um thank you ben my name is olrick um i go by sir olrick my crypto pseudonym on bitcoin twitter um but i've done a lot of things since 21 i've

been in bitcoin for a while but never like twitter much but when i finally decided to i need to share this this bright orange feature future or the destruction of Fiat. Started writing at Bitcoin Magazine for about a year and a half, two years. From there, I moved on to writing on other platforms like Swan, Simply Bitcoin Pleb Underground. You guys may have noticed some of my videos that I've done with Swan in the past before what I like to lovingly call the Swan having. I'm no longer with them, but it was a fun ride while I was there. And I've done a few other projects, Declaration Monetary Independence.

You'll see me wearing the captain hat at the Bitcoin Nashville. It's fun to socialize with everyone and just use the energy that I have when I'm not working my engineering job in my IRL world. Just to kind of share what I think is the future. And it's a it's a privilege to be on stage with these two ladies and Ben as well. Awesome. Well, I'm glad to have you back, man. Again, unfortunate about that particular having. But I think that Bitcoiners, if anything, are resilient and are able to pick up the pieces and come back stronger than ever. So, you know, I'm bullish on Bitcorners for that very reason. But yeah, thank you all for joining on a Friday. Everybody that's watching,

right now, of course. This is why are we bullish? If you're unfamiliar, a very simple premise to the show. Each of us has come with a reason for being bullish in and around Bitcoin. It can really take any form, a personal experience. It might be an app or a book or a news event or it doesn't matter as long as it makes you bullish. And so the flow of the show is as such, number one, somebody is going to drop their reason for being bullish. That's going to be their chance to rant and discuss and get off their chest, whatever they're currently

excited about. Number two, altogether, we're going to riff on that reason, comments, questions, discussions, whatever rabbit holes we decide to go down. And finally, number three, we're going to rotate to the next person until we've all had a turn. So reason, riff, rotate, simple. The only rule here on why are we bullish is try not to drop your reason before you're asked. But besides that, we're going to dive right in. I'll start us off the hop. My reason's relatively simple, but continues to be a pervasive one, and I've brought some visual accompaniment to show exactly why I'm bullish. I'll start it off with, I'm bullish because politicians are addicted to printing money. It doesn't matter what side of the political aisle it is. They, like, every politician

in order to attain office or depending on what type of office, you're holding in order to hold on to office is going to promise things that cost money. And they're going to need to continue promising them in order to get votes and bribe voters into voting for them, uh, at which point that will drive more government deficit spending, at which point that will drive more inflation, at which point that will also require money printer go burr. And it's just an ongoing cycle. And with Bitcoin, we have, a way to just kind of step outside of that system and use a money that nobody can print for free. So the reason that I came to this particular reason for being bullish this week is, you know,

we're getting into the American election cycle. And, you know, that's coming up in a few months here. And, you know, in Canada, we'll get the same thing next year. But a fun little promise that I just saw the other day, well, earlier today is that the Harris campaign, they're announcing that they plan on giving $25,000 first home buyer subsidies and $6,000 tax credits per child for the first year of the baby's life. Basically, again, like, hey, here's some money, vote for me kind of thing.

And again, that's in no way exclusive to any particular political party. But like, that's, that's a pretty large promise. There's, you know, what, 380 million people in the United States. I would say that for a lot of people, especially as the last four years, homeownership is very much off the table with the current environment. and people's wages and how much asset prices have gone up. But, you know, what I anticipate, if this administration were to get in and then follow through with this promise, which who knows, don't trust verify. But if it were, I anticipate that house prices would go up by $25,000 roughly in and around that range.

And then you would, yeah, you would continue to see those houses be out of reach for your average person. The middle class will continue to be hollowed out. And the Fiat Money printer will continue to go burr and reallocate resources to those with assets away from those without. And yeah, and just to further drum that point, here's the US debt clock this is US debt clock.org sitting at a pretty 35.16 trillion dollars of debt and it just keeps on going and going that's $104,000 per citizen if you're only looking at taxpayers $268,000 per taxpaying US resident and it's just when you see how quickly these numbers are moving, like you're ticking through an individual's yearly salary like every couple

of seconds here. And it's just, it's disgusting to see how much money is being created and blown on wasteful programs and just, and sometimes just big question marks. Where'd the money go? Well, not quite sure. We lost a few trillion. So, so that's my reason for being bullish, because at the end of the day, like, Bitcoin must appreciate in, in purchasing power against that. When you're looking at something like that, where it's just the numbers are just, it's getting to the point where when you look into the hundreds of dollars, it's just you can't, you can't focus on how quickly the numbers are going. So, yeah, I mean, I know it's a pretty general reason, but politicians will always, always be addicted to printing money. And the only way to solve that is to

separate money from state. So here what is. So with that, I'll open it up to you guys, comments, questions. I don't know. Where are you guys at with this topic? Go ahead, ladies first. Oh, boy. Go ahead, Minnie. Why, you start? The thing that came to mind when you were talking is, I mean, what is it? It's a $6,000 child tax credit as well, I think is what she's proposing, right? And, you know, it just amazes me that people don't understand that somebody has to pay for that, you know? So it's like, parents will be like, oh, this is just so great.

We're going to get this tax credit. It's like, yeah, you're literally giving it, like your child gets to pay that in the future, you know? like we just keep on passing this on and it's it's really quite a sad thing so yeah that that was my take i'll leave it at that yeah so she's so she's give it she's gonna give away $25,000 for first-time home buyers is that what it is yeah i mean that's what it seems to that's what the promise seems to be if you're buying a home she seems to have a lot of money like that money's coming from somewhere it's it's it's all from you as if she's very close to the money spigot yeah it's it's you're right and and and and humble i i i um again like

the the the the point being that again the government doesn't have money right they they don't have they're they're not really creating anything of value to earn money and be able to spend it they're stealing it other productive people or creating it out of thin air, which is another form of stealing it from other productive people. I think one of my favorite resources that has explained this well is funny enough, a children's show called The Tuttle Twins. And it's such a great show. And it just explains it so simply like when you say that something that costs human capital and human resources to create or to offer.

When you say that's a human right, well, for who? Because, again, somebody has to work in order to create that thing to give it to somebody else for free. So who's going to be doing the free work so that people can have the free stuff is the takeaway from me? I don't know. Ulrich. Like, you, you're down in the U.S. and you get to deal with the politicians are down there. We've got our own flavor up here.

Like, when you're looking at these promises as election season comes around, like what goes through your mind? California ain't that different from Canada, Ben. You know, I'm in the sun shines, but there's a heavy cloud of communism. Every time I go outside, I was just hanging out in Venice Beach just right before this thing for the first time. Like fifth time in 15 years, it can't stand it. It's just a dystopia, despite how much the sun is shining.

And all those people, I was talking to a buddy of mine, all those people, it's a generational dynamic of maybe it's millennials, maybe it's that our parents were too, showed us the, only the bright side of life to the point where as we grow up and come into our own, we expect that parent to come in and provide for us that provide us something that is not ours. And in order for them to provide that, they have to take it from someone else. And that's what you're seeing there. You're seeing that with the $6,000 credit for newborn babies. By the way, they do that in other countries.

And by the way, J.D. Vance suggested that as well. Kamala Harris mocked it and then not doubled down, but added to it. So she mocked it three weeks ago. And then now she says, oh, by the way, we're going to do it and create a and proposed it like it was her own idea. The $25,000 home purchase, guess what that's going to happen? The market's going to absorb that and saying, you know, we know that's going to, we know you're going to get that money.

So we're going to upcharge the price for the house anyway. So it's going to be a net, a net. It's going to be basically net zero. No one's going to feel that, oh, wow, that really helped me about buying that house. You're not going to feel it. The free market is stronger than any. of the nuance that centralized planning can bring to the table. It's just the egotism of the Fiat system.

They think that they can truly centrally plan. And they think that they could do it better in the USSR. They think they can do it better in China. You have this modern monetary theory dynamic. You have this hyper-leftism that's coming into play. And everyone thinks that they can play essentially God, because they've created what is essentially the tower of our modern day tower of Babel, which is fiat currency.

And the problem is that the people who get hurt most are the wage earners in society, the people who don't own assets. And that's why we Bitcoin. Yeah, 100%. And again, it's not the only, how should I say? It's not the only fiscal and monetary quackery that we see out of, out of campaigns like there's already been uh chats or or um uh calls for price controls which you know good luck on that one that's worked out in every other country that's executed them um so yeah

i mean it's it's sometimes it's exhausting because i feel like if there's enough space in between bad ideas, they just need to be learned again and again and nobody picks up a history book and sees, oh, geez, when they did this last time, it was horrendous. Maybe we should like pump the brakes on this one for the second time, third time, fourth time, thousandth time. So I don't know. Like, Midi, I'm curious again, just like your, are you, when you're looking at at the election stuff coming up, are you just like, I'm out? Or are you? Like, do you, do you, um, are you like single issue voter, uh, like if, if Bitcoin or are you just like, I, I don't trust anybody. I'm out. I, I don't trust politicians. It's just a, it's a shit show. I, yeah, yeah, it's, you know, I don't trust them.

You know, you know, it's like you said before, you know, they're going to promise and promise just to, you know, to earn votes. But at the end of the day, you know, somebody, you know, they're going to. You know, they're going to. to print the money, you know? And, you know, it's, it's not fair. So that's why I beg coin. Yeah. I mean, we've, we've, we've all, I wonder how long it'll take, um, society as a whole to, to recognize that these, these promises, they, they come from somewhere. And again, humble, like you said, it's, it's the kid who gets the subsidy is going to be paying back the subsidy later in life plus interest. So it's, uh, but hey, round a, around we go and maybe we can maybe we can escape and and maybe we can stack a few

stimmy checks worth of bitcoin along the way and turn it into generational wealth so but anyways i'll put a bow on my topic here uh moral of the story is they will keep on printing so keep on stacking um but with that humble i'm going to toss it to you i'm going to cue you up for uh the same question everybody will get why i'm are you bullish this week? All right. I just wanted to thank you again for having me on here with my lovely friends. Very happy to see them.

It's awesome. So, you know, I guess what we were talking about before, but I'm bullish on people waking up to Bitcoin, you know, like we say that every now and then. But there are so many events that are happening in the world that I feel the conversations that we've had, the seeds we've planted, I guess. you could say with family and friends, maybe the wheels are turning a little bit, right? You know, you've got suppression of speech in the UK on social media. People are getting jailed.

Things that, you know, like we kind of heard of a while ago, and maybe even some of us thought that. They'd never do that, but now they are. So I'm bullish on people starting to say, this isn't right. What happened to the fact that we were supposed to be able to speak? freely, even if we disagree with each other. And this is how we have great conversations, how we learn from each other, how you can have a certain point of view and then learn from somebody else so as a complete opposite point of view. You know, it's just like you don't want to be

kept in this echo chamber, but they're trying to keep us in their little echo chamber, you know. So I'm really bullish on people starting to place more value on freedom and place. place more value on, you know, we're not at this point a communist country. You know, there is UK isn't either. So like what's happening and why is this happening? It doesn't make sense. So I'm hoping more people will be waiting up to Bitcoin by questioning world events. I like that.

And it's Bitcoin and tangential technologies as well. I find people are starting to kind of close. into like you know privacy tools you know even like social social media like the fact that noster exists in and of itself is is a big vote for freedom of speech but yeah you're right like there's the UK thing is crazy people being potentially arrested for retweeting something like not even writing so it's like you amplified speech that we don't like so like off to the gulag with with you but you see you know like Venezuela and Russia both have banned signal messenger and and so like obviously they're

having an issue with people being able to speak privately there X is also banned in Venezuela which I suppose you know Noster can now kind of be shown in a light where well okay if if one thing can be banned this other thing cannot um but yeah and and then and then monetarily like when when you cannot use banks when you get blacklisted uh what are you going to do and thankfully there's an app for that so uh there's a network for that i suppose but yeah i i mean i'll let uh alrick and and minnie chime in here but but definitely I would echo your sentiment that freedom is being encroached upon and freedom is pushing back. I'll go first this time.

So, like, Humble and I are talking all the time, you know, Midi and I are talking all the time. So I knew that she was going to kind of mention something like this. And it's like, I've always thought this, you know, Bitcoin Twitter, Bitcoin X, we come up with these euphemisms to justify. why we're here and to justify who should also be here. We came up with the terminology, Bitcoin is apolitical, which may be, you know, a tool is in and of itself is just a tool. A hammer is a hammer.

It could be a murder weapon in one person's hands, and it could be an element for building in another person's hands. But when we look at, but the rights to, the element and the justification for if someone should have that element or not is definitely a political statement. I remember watching, I'll never forget this and Oppenheimer, I saw it late because I was one on the Barbie bandwagon. I saw Barbie before Oppenheimer. I'm sorry, LA is rubbing off on me. But when I finally saw it, I'll never forget the communist meetup. The girl said, property is theft i'm like oh oh my gosh you know property is theft i remember like like

taxate we say taxation is theft so so the idea that bitcoin is in is inherent property and someone you are essentially a sinner you're essentially a wrongdoer to a large contingency of people by just owning bitcoin and people come after you for that people will come after you for your for your right your proper inherent property right to speak um which is happening in of all places is the UK where we're supposed, you know, Magna Carta, I guess, you know, they don't really care about that kind of stuff anymore. It's amazing what a thousand years would do. But like, I guess what I'm saying is, you know, communism doesn't work with a variety of thought. Communism has to coerce. And so when you talk to people, you have to say, hey, how much do you want other

people to tell you what to do? It says a lot about how socialist, how communist you are. And you really got to wonder, like, do you really want that system when the wrong person in your eyes is telling you something, is telling you what to do? If Trump decided to be a Trump communist, you know, and all these lefties who absolutely despise him, for instance, do you want him to be head of your communist state? Or do you want your individual liberties to say, despite that person in power, you have certain rights, certain inherent rights to your existence? And that's what we want. No matter who wins, whether it's Trump or Kamala, we want to have some sort of inherent rights that allow us to prosper. And I got to say, no matter where you live right now in this world,

there are challenges in that realm, even having Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the best thing you can have in this world right now, but it's still just a bleak disposition in the way these politics are running in this world over. Yeah. I love it. I'm sorry. I'm bringing a brain of bringing that military into me i work with military people in my in my day job to a degree so love it well middy i'll let you tag in after that one if you have i know how am i going to top that how am i going to top that all you all you got to do a smile you're fine all you can do a smile well um you know i'm actually i'm very grateful for being i'm not ex uh humble i love the morning spaces I'm usually at work, just listening and just sitting there learning, laughing.

It's great. So, you know, I have met so many great people on Bitcoin, Twitter, on spaces. And when I've had chances to actually meet in person, it's been amazing. So I went to Nashville and I met up with my stack chain family. shout out to my stack chain family love you guys and it was amazing hey Anthony V

rebels I see you but yeah it's just you know like I love the fact that we've been able to to meet each other

you know on spaces and then during the conferences gets it to meet and you know it's great

so you know X is not that bad, you know? As long as you can access it. Exactly. Yeah, as long as you're not suspended or anything, you don't, you know. Yeah, yeah.

But it's, it's, again, I think that it's, it's interesting that things have changed on, on X so dramatically to what it was before, because I almost wonder if, um, The fact that there is to a degree where people can actually say what they think on X currently, if that took a little bit of the wind, temporarily took some of the wind out of the nostril sails. Because, I mean, if it was how it was before and you would go to post something and you get throttled and I'm not saying it doesn't happen here and there. but I wonder if it was still as draconian as it was, there would have been much more of an exodus already to Noster. I don't know, like, what do you guys think?

Not all it was. Well, I got an NOSA, but not often. I got an NOSA not too often, but I do try to be there and post and, you know, but for some reason I don't get that engagement that I get on X. You know, most of my friends are on Twitter. Yeah. I think, oh, go ahead, go ahead. No, I'm done. I think, yeah, Noster is like this, it's, you know, everyone's waiting for lightning and explode. Lightning is, lightning is still in its infancy. And so technologies need this long, need this long loading ramp. I don't know, I forget the technical term while live, but it's like you need to get these hours in where you, where you establish this. foundational use case before, you know, you kind of evolve before you level up in terms of like usage and and time and time in app. And so people are teasing it with as tinkerers right now.

And it will evolve. And so it's like this is a patient. This is a process. This is five years. This is even 10 years. This isn't going to be overnight. Of course, the necessity will drive people more to it just like you see Bitcoin with Bitcoin. necessity drives people to it. That's why America is so slow in adopting Bitcoin. All the wealth in America, guess what people? Well, you know, the dollar is kind of good. Why do I need Bitcoin? My house isn't burning down. Talk to people in Nigeria. Talk to people in Venezuela. And of course, there's more urgency, but less capital. So I'd say when it comes to Noster, like, I'm patient. I have an account, but I'm generally inactive. I don't have a massive following. I don't have like, oh, I have to make sure my Noster people hear what I have to say. They don't get to shit. So it's like, I just want, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm. I'm kind of like I got my app, I got my infrastructure, got my, you know, got my relay. So when it's time to be there, it's a, it's a switchover and communication still is manifest. But Twitter, I think it's still good enough, at least for us Americans. I can't say the same for Venezuela. I wouldn't be surprised if the UK shut it down. I dare him to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. No, that's,

that's all good. Humble, I don't know if you had anything else you wanted to tag in there before. I'll just echo that sentiment. I think it's going to take a while for it to catch on, and that's fine. They've got different things that they're working on, and I have a presence there, but I barely, I barely use it just because it was just such a crazy thing to kind of get started and understand. And there were certain apps that were available, and then suddenly they weren't available. And it's like, ah, you know. And, you know, it's like now I feel comfortable posting how I really feel on X. there was a period of time where I maybe wasn't

not comfortable with that and it's kind of like a venting thing you know it's like if people see it they see it if they don't they don't but like I know this is how I feel and it's almost like this historical record too like this is what's happening now this is how I feel you can look back and be like oh okay so yeah it's I think X is good

and I have high hopes for Nostra in the future just not right now yeah fair enough but you know what I do want to say that when I do go on roster, it's nice to get sap, you know, when you post something. You don't get that on X. So I really like that. So I try to, you know, be there, you know, on a daily basis and just, you know, put something in there. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, there's a few things. You so greedy? You just want the sets? No, no. No. I share my, you know, my positive quotes that I love to share on Twitter as well, you know. I'm all positivity. I'm all love, you know? Yeah. Also.

To show support. Sorry. Go ahead. No, I was also going to say it's helpful, too, that the rage algorithm isn't present there. Because, like, sometimes I'll get on X and I know it's serving me stuff that's just going to rile me up to be like, oh, God, I'm sorry. I hate this. And you got to stop yourself of like, do I need to interact with this individual? And, you know, sometimes I'm able to resist the urge and other times I get way too deep into an argument I didn't need to bother myself with. Whereas on Noster, it's just kind of you see what you see and it's not programmatically feeding you things to, to rile you up and get you interacting. So it's, and maybe like that's, that's, that's, it's a feature, but it also comes to a detriment in terms of, quicker onboarding of people because that that addictive algo isn't there to keep you there.

So yeah, it's it's a double-edged sword, I suppose. Well, and it happened so fast with X. Like yesterday, I had looked at, I watched a video and it was on something that I'm not normally watching a complete video on. And I just, I thought I was in the comment feed of this video because like every single thing that was on there was relating to. the video I had just watched and it wasn't. It was just suddenly my feed was showing me everything regarding that video that I watched,

like that subject. So I was like, okay, this is, that's a bit much, you know? So, yeah. And I think we have to kind of understand. As long as you understand it, you can handle it, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yellow's making fun of my disability in the chat right now. You know what, Ben, I want to say something.

So I don't know if you remember. You posted regarding your 40th birthday next year. Yes. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if you saw it, but I hate injustices, and it just riled me up. And my stack chain brothers, they all came to my rescue. Oh, my God. And they trolled that guy so bad.

Oh, yeah. It's hilarious. Somebody was, anybody missing context here? I innocently posted the other day because I don't I usually don't do anything for my birthday, but I figured 40 is a bit of a milestone. So like maybe I'll go somewhere for that. And I just said it'd be cool to celebrate my 40th birthday with some Bitcoiners. And somebody like strung together some narrative of like me going to pretend I'm rich in a third world country and like, you know, like,

the facade of Bitcoiners, like the only way that they can like, first of all, I'm not trying to be like, oh, look at me. Like, I find Bitcoiners are quite the opposite. Like, no, no, no. I'm going to act poor, even if I've stacked early because I want to stack more sats. And two, I don't want anybody to know if I've stacked a lot of stats because I don't want that $5 wrench attack to happen. So, like, I feel like it was kind of, uh, kind of a rid.

Anyways, she just like, and she kept posting over and over and was like angry at the world. Anyways, I know. You know what? But mystery loves company. People, they have nothing else to do with their time, but to dispute negativity. Yeah. You know, a bunch of trolls. It happens.

But that damn Algo got me. Yeah. For that one. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, it's anybody in the chat, it's not my birthday until like March next year. I'm just kind of like early. figuring out, you know, if I want to go somewhere or not. But anyways, besides the point,

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And congrats to whoever sniped those sats. But with that, We're going to do another rotation. Midi, I am sending it straight to you, and I'm going to ask you, same question every he gets. Why are you bullish? Oh, boy. I am bullish for personal reasons. I do have a personal story.

When I turned 40, I decided to get a divorce from an 18-year marriage. And that was hard. It was very tough. And then five months in, my youngest son, who was seven at the time, got diagnosed with a brain tumor, an inoperable brain tumor. So I was obviously devastated, you know. A lot of people know this. But it got to a point, you know, he passed nine months after that. And then afterwards, pretty much my ex was like, when are you moving out?

So I pretty much had to move out of the house and I found myself with nothing. Absolutely nothing. We're going to use the house for, you know, like split it and stuff like that. But everything got spent trying to save my son practically. But there were times where I would just pray and say like, what am I going to do? Like I pretty much have my job. and that's it. That's all I have. Like I have nothing. And, and then when I found out about Bitcoin, which was in 2020, then, and I started to learn about it, it's like, you know, the sky's open. And I was like, you know what? I'm not going to have to work until I'm, you know, 80 years old. And I just went down the rabbit hole and I haven't stopped since. So I'm so grateful I have met some. I have met some. many amazing people and I know I'm not going to work till I'm 80 and every day I just keep stacking

stats, stacking stats and with the help of my stack chain family, like I wouldn't have I wouldn't have more sets if it wasn't for them. So I want to thank all my stack chain family that, you know, I have more sets than I would have. So that's why I'm bullish. That's awesome. I again, like It's you can find a pretty great community with with bitcorners, I think. And that's kind of what comes through there. That to me, it sounds like you've found like a, you know, your tribe with with the stack chaners and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the corners. And yeah, like, tell me a little bit about your. Tell me a little bit about your first, like, foray into, to meeting all of, you know, the bit corners that you know today.

Like, how did that come about? So, like I said before, I used to go to the clubhouse spaces. And my first conference that I went to was in 2021. But the people that I knew from spaces, you know, we weren't like close or it wasn't, I never really interacted because, as I do now, you should just go listen. I love learning. So I just sit on the, you know, and just. just listen and learn. And that's how I pretty much have done ever since. But then in 2022,

I was invited to be part of the Swan Force. And I did that. And I met a group of people. That's when I met my dear humble, 2022, Miami, 2022. And that was awesome. And I've met a few of the other guys. And in 2023, beginning of 2023, then I met my Stackchain family. And like that is my tribe. I love them. And it's just, and when I got to Nashville, I got to meet them in person. So that was like a great experience. That's awesome.

There's nothing better than getting in a room with, with Bicorners, especially for the first time. Like that, that feeling of I'm not crazy. or that or like we're all crazy together like it's one of the two but my family thinks I'm crazy yeah I said yeah so you know what don't come at me when you know but they're quim moons and you have nothing yeah no that's I mean again I'm it's it's like a harrowing story but again the the silver lining the light at the end of that tunnel of finding a community of, you know, like-minded, loving people that, that, you know, you can grow with. I think that's fantastic.

Yeah. Bitcoin has brought a lot of hope into my life. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yellow, yellow said after the story, the question should be, why are you hopeful? And I, yeah, absolutely. Like, Bitcoin is that can be that hope for a lot of. of people in the way that it brings people together.

And yeah, it's a, I think a lot of people in different parts of life, there's a lot of pessimism and nihilism, you know, everywhere right now. And, you know, for a lot of different reasons. But, you know, I think Bitcoin has taken some people to a better place. I'm curious if Humble or Ulrich here have similar sentiments or any questions for Midi. Humble's closer to Middy, so I'm going to go ahead and drop mine first. So no, I think that's better because you guys are really close. So like listening to the Midi story, and I heard it before, I heard, you know, the tragic story

with your son back, you know, close to a year ago. And then I didn't know about the husband part, but I will say, say that the family that you've developed in this Bitcoin, in this Bitcoin realm, whether it's close with the stackchainers, whether it's more, you know, far off from people like me that you may not interact with as much, but you know I got your back. I think it's just an example of the voluntarism of empathy. And what I mean by that is the socialist, communist, they rationalize their atrocities to people by using the buzzword empathy. We have empathy.

The capitalist doesn't. The individualist does not. But the catch is there's nothing truly empathetic about corraling essentially a mob to go door to door with guns to take your time darned wealth and to redistribute it to their interest groups. That's not empathy. That's outright blatant theft. What we have with Bitcoin is when you have, when you have pure ownership of, when you have real ownership of your money, and you're not worried about how much the state is going to come and knock on your door to take from you.

What you end up doing is like, you know what? I have all this saved up energy that I can distribute it to other people that need it. And it may not be, it may not be giving money. It may be giving your time. It may be giving something else. It may be giving whatever. But the catch is that Bitcoin can enable people to give of themselves more because they don't have to reserve something for when the state comes knocking

like a old mobster movie. So I think it's a great example with your Stackchain family. I've just recently met a lot of them or met some people that I didn't even know were in Stackchain, including yourself. I didn't know that you were associated with them until you're hanging out in Nashville. But it's like, what a great group. And what a great group to support someone. And that use case is going to reiterate.

And it's going to blow the use case of communist empathy out the water. So amen to you guys. Thank you. Awesome. Humble, you can jump in here as well. All right. I'm going to try to stay on track here because I don't want to get emotional. I want to say that, oh, well.

Okay, so you, when I met you, you're such a strong individual in, you know, where some people may feel victimized, right, by the situation, circumstances in life. You picked yourself up and the series of events that happened in your life and when you, you know, named Bitcoin, you know, I would imagine that gave you this sense of hope, you know, like for me, what resonated was somebody created this for other people. they didn't want anything for themselves. They saw a problem. They wanted to fix it. And when you have these tragedies happen in your life and I can't understand what you went through with your son, if you can, right? But having this, knowing that there's somebody good out there or something good out

there that was created for others is just that sense of hope that you need sometimes to drive you in the right direction, you know? And I think your story, as it pertains to the divorce, you know, there's a lot of women that are in these situations. There's a lot of women that maybe didn't have jobs. There's women that are in domestic abuse situations. And what can Bitcoin do for these women? And I think that's something to talk about in the future as well to really help educate women so that they can pack up their bags and say, okay, this isn't a healthy situation, you know, because that's a very, there's a lot of women out there that are

dealing with that. So, yeah, so I'm going to that. And I love you. Sorry. That's it. I love you too. Yeah. It is, again, a very inspiring kind of story to kind of come out of a situation like that and build back in a way that, you know, I, I, I, I, I, kind of see the support coming through the chat here and everybody trying to lift each other up. And yeah, it's one that hits right there. So that's great to hear. And what a fantastic topic, I think. Yeah.

And you know what? Also, I also advocate for health and wellness. You know, I'm a bit of a gym rat. And I oppose a lot about that. Yeah, I was told once that I was not normal because I wake up at 4 a.m. And get ready to be at the gym at 5. And that's okay because it works for me. And it actually works.

Like working out has helped me so much. People don't realize that working out is just not to look good, you know, to have a nice body. Working out for me, it has been for my mental health. It has helped me get through. you know, in addition to the support that I've gotten from my family, friends, you know, working out and eating healthy has helped me like tremendously. So that's important. And that's my advocate for that. I love that.

Yeah. It's interesting how these tangential topics to Bitcoin kind of like people, they see the idea of bettering the money, but then also start to question other parts of life. or people that already have some good habits around that, you know, can come to Bitcoin. It can be the other way around as well. But like I think Bitcoiners in general, once they understand Bitcoin, they start looking at ways of bettering their own situation as well. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's awesome. Well, that was a fantastic topic. And I'm really glad you shared that story. So thank you for that, Midey. You're welcome. Awesome. Well, I guess the only thing left to do is do one more rotation here and toss it down to Ulrich here.

And same question, man. You get to round us out. Why are you bullish this week? Yeah, man. I would say I'm bullish on the concept of the insecurity of the ops or the insecurity of the opposition. And I guess what I mean is, well, so I have this quote from the art of war. Where was it? I had this quote that was looking at.

The art of war, Sun Tzu, he said, attack him where he's, he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected. And I think when we look at the world that, you know, the world wasn't ready for rapid technology changes. And what I mean, the world, the people that own the world. the fiat regime, the fiat, the legacy financial system, the legacy monetary power. They didn't realize how fast certain things would become adopted or how hard it would be to get rid of things like decentralization, individually run institutions or infrastructures like the Bitcoin network. And I think that politicians, because they're so used to being on the forefront of everything, I mean, you see the net worth that goes up when they come in as a bright-eyed, bushy-tailed,

you know, representative, and they leave with ten figures in the bank, you know, multiple ten figures. Lizard Warren, you know, or George W. Bush, it doesn't matter. Whether you start off poor, start off rich, you become wildly rich, because why not you? because you have the insider trade on literally everything but Bitcoin. And they didn't see that and they didn't want to see it. And I think that comes down to as we get into this modern world, you know, and we're accelerating. I think it started with the processor.

A lot of people referenced this from the sovereign individual book. I didn't read it in completion. But one part was talking about the processor and how it's essentially this intermediary, or it gets rid of the intermediary of. information or of processing. That's why I call the processor. You don't need a government to do something for you, to solve a problem for you.

The computer chip with the right information given to it will be able to solve so many things for you. And then fast forward, all these multiple technologies laid on top of it. You start getting to the internet. You start getting into Bitcoin. And that is where they don't want to lose. They don't want to lose the idea of,

the they don't want to lose 50% of every value exchange known the man they don't want to lose they don't want to lose that transaction fee they don't want to lose that settlement fee and bitcoin erases all the need for anything of a bank of international settlement central bank uh you know all these government institutions treasuries it's all taken care of in a non-sovereignty way. But you know, they were okay. They were okay with the car replacing the horse because guess why they can invest in that? They were okay with electricity replacing oil. They were okay with that. So they're panicking. And when you see people panicking and you're on the other side of that panic, you know, it's like you're sitting on this side and on the other fence, everyone's freaking out.

You got to say, wow, they're all freaking out. And you're calm, cool, and collective woosaw. There's got to be something good about this. And we go through our volatile stages, we go through our 30% drops or 50% drops, you know, and yet still they're panicking. They're trying to figure out a way to defeat this $1 trillion network, which generally, when you think about $900 trillion of global wealth, it's insignificant, but there's something, there's something about it. The market value doesn't reflect its subjective value doesn't reflect its use case

value and these are the things that you know when I think about a lot of the the messaging on Twitter a lot of people are talking about capital asset a lot of people are talking about it's in its near-term trade value a lot of the top people are talking about and I know we're meaning in the in the chat when a hundred K it's all fun in games and that's and that's cool and all but it's like this technology is so much more important than the near term dollar value and people are struggling people have bills to pay people want to buy houses they want to buy their lambos or maybe not let them go or they want to buy their new car they want they want to turn their money because it's money they

want to turn their money into into a hard asset that they can use and a hard asset that that will last or they may want to buy a nice dinner but the catch is that that money is so valuable in its projected use case just by the fact of looking at all the people that try to rationalize against it you have got you have got to hold firm and especially this time frame when we know that something generally good will happen because of how far we are from the having time frame you want to keep your you want to keep your disposition in a good place you want to be you want to get away from the noise you want to get away from even the bitcoin twitter noise you just want to kind of calm yourself, let time happen, and get to a place where it's like, yeah, like, I brave the storm,

I'm here. And then when it goes down again, if it does, guess what? You're going, you're there, you're there again, because you can, and I've heard, I think I've heard Prest and Pitch say this or someone like that, I can remain solvent longer than the market can remain irrational. And that's the high time, that's the low time preference dynamic that we all need to have and we all need to be reminded about. I'm not saying anything, I'm not boast out anything that we all shouldn't know already, but it still needs to be reminded. It's like going to church on Sunday. Sorry, I got muted there. I think it's great. Again, it's, there's, I always watch these fluctuations in the price and I'm a little astounded that,

you know, like, oh, oh, the U.S. government moved some of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the price drum dumps because people are, are treating it as, like, such a short-term thing. And I'm thinking, like, you're, you're, you're, you're pissing away general, a generational wealth on, you know, a, a, a, a price movement that could be short-lived as, as, as, like, like a week or a month or like what in the hell are you doing like you're you're rolling the dice when you could have a very simple formula you could you know create value for others spend less than you earn and save in a money that nobody else can print and your life will just be so much easier so much simpler you can just be good at something and and save and put some money away and and things will just get easier and easier over time um And it's just, again, we've been conditioned into such a, you've always got this fiat tendency in the background to want to try and time things. And oh, maybe, you know, I'll keep some money on the sidelines so that when it goes down, I can snatch up some more, which great if that happens.

But like, if it just, if it goes for a ride to the upside, then, I mean, you could have just stack those stats. And so I think all of us try to get out from under the thumb of that Fiat mindset. And it's hard when you've, when you've, you know, been living through it for your entire life. And have just been introduced to Bitcoin in the past few years. And yeah, you're right. Like it, it, people need to be reminded constantly. Like, how, how much of a seismic. shift this is for the world and how important it is, I think.

Anyways, I'll let, I'll let Midi and humble, whoever wants to chime in on what I'll work here had to say. Well, it's so much easier to just stack sats, you know? It's like my friends from stacking say, have fun stacking sets. Just stack sats, don't worry about it, put it in cold storage, and forget about it. because you know, you know, Bitcoin's going to moon in the future, you know. Don't worry about it. Just have fun stacking stats.

That's all I got to say. Love it. Humble, humble you. So I have to apologize if there's some new background noise, but I had to take a break to turn my ceiling fan on when I was trying to make it quiet, but it didn't work. So it's kind of annoying, but bear with me.

You know, I had some great advice, advice given to me from a gentleman on on Twitter named Tao and we had both kind of it was at 2022 I think I was trying to think of a time to buy back in because it crashed and this is when I was like trading crypto back in the day you know like all that stuff right I was I was still dealing with that so I pulled as much out as I possibly could and I'm like oh I mean I just I don't know when I'm going to buy more. And so Tao and I were dealing with that. And then a friend of mine, Satya had said, you know, do you believe it's going to go to

$100,000? And I'm like, well, yeah. Yeah, I mean, yes, it will. And then somebody said, well, do you believe it's going to go to like $500,000? I'm like, yeah, I believe it will for sure, yeah. Then what are you waiting for? Just buy in now. Just do it now because nobody can predict what's going to happen.

And that's very true. You know, I sat there. Of course, I didn't listen at first because I'm like, okay, well, that's great, but I still think I know more than everyone else right now, so I'm going to do what I want, right? But it's like, nope, that was the advice. And then you don't have to worry about it anymore, you know? I mean, it's there.

And like Middy said, you just put it aside. Like, it doesn't even, it's there. You know it's there, but you don't have to worry about it. You don't have to have access to it. It's for your future. You're good. So, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I again, I think that's on point. Like as soon as you start overthinking it, then you know you're going in the wrong direction. Just like, again, put it away. Save it. Again, I'm a bit more of a psychopath in that I'm like actively living on it. I felt like having just my savings in Bitcoin wasn't enough. I just needed to be like fully down the rabbit hole. But I mean, it's made me a better saver in that every expenditure beyond my monthly bills is an active decision of, you know, do I want to spend this Bitcoin or not? You know, if I have dollars in the bank, then it's like, well, whatever. It's the dollars, who cares? But when it's at, it's like, okay, well, do I need this? I don't know. And it becomes a bit more of a conscientious process.

of what my expenses are. So, yeah. Hey, Ben, really quick to cut you off on that example. It's so funny. The legacy finance system, they would consider you a bad actor. They're working against you to create velocity of money. Whereas, like, if you're holding, if they would call you a hoarder, they're calling you, they're saying, how do we stop this guy from holding on to his stack of dollars so long?

I know let's debase that amount. So he feels it. Enough so he feels it. So it's like, do I save or do I spend? Do I spend it on those shoes I don't really need? Do I spend it on that, on that extra bookshelf that I don't really need? Oh, guess what? If I don't buy it now, it's going to be 30% more later.

I better buy it now. That's good for the Keynesian economy. And so it's like, we're flipping that on his head. And so like that perfect example, you're living more so on a Bitcoin standard than a lot of people, you are becoming more Austrian, more critical of every single micro unit that you spend. And that's actually good for the economy. Guess what that does? That means that someone who's making a product, they got to make a really good product

in order to separate you from your Bitcoin. And that means that everyone's getting a better deal. Anyways, that was it. Sorry. Yeah. No, I love that. And that's very, very true. because and funny enough, some people might interpret that as thinking like, oh, you must buy really cheap stuff all the time.

It's actually the total opposite because when I go, when I actually need to get something, I want something that's going to last for a long time and be really good. So like rather than go get the crappy IKEA kitchen table, I went and I had my friend who built stuff locally, build solid oak bases. and like and like a granite top and ever that thing weighs so much it will still be standing there when the house burns down eventually it's like that thing is never being moved but are you telling us where your C phrase is yeah yeah so I mean like again it changes a little bit of how you approach things and you're more likely to get the better quality item that takes you maybe a bit longer to save for because you know it's going to last you forever, rather than the trinkety crappy thing that you're going to replace five times inside of the next calendar year.

So it definitely plays with you a little bit. And I see that a little bit with what we're doing in Calgary with the sat market, where we've got local merchants that are coming together and offering services and goods and everything for Bitcoin. they're being more conscientious about the product that they're putting out there because people will go to the market and they'll say, oh, I'll grab some of this and this and kind of support and everything. But the next time somebody comes to the market, if something wasn't that great, they're not

going to spend sats on it again. They're going to go to one of the other merchants and we're starting to grow out how many merchants we have. And so, you know, there's some gentle competition going on there. And we're seeing like a flight to quality rather than. just like quantity crap right like people people aren't it let's let's take bitcoin art as an example people back in the day would be more than happy to buy like any any frinket that just has like a bitcoin b slapped on it it's like okay cool like there's nothing else out there that has this on it

so i'll i'll grab this this keychain that is like okay but now it's It's like, no, if you're putting out a piece of art, you actually need to create something that's unique and speaks to people. And so we're getting this kind of this Bitcoin, you know, like an art renaissance. And some of the, some of the incredible artists that in and around the Bitcoin space that have come out of this and have really carved out a niche of their own. Again, it speaks to exactly, I'll like what you're saying, of it forces people to be better. And I always say it again and again, but I love this quote from Medax. He says, you know, if you're offering a good or service and it's not top notch and you're selling to Bitcoiners, you will not retain that customer beyond the initial sale. But if you put out a killer product, that person will be back.

So, like, it's people, people, uh, treat their purchases much differently with Bitcoin than they do with Fiat. Yep. 100%. Capitalism. Imagine that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a miracle.

Yeah. Or, or we could just go for, uh, you know, uh, stimmy checks and, and price caps. I don't know. It's a toss up. Anyways, guys. Um, I'm conscious of time. I'm going to start rounding things out here.

But there's a way I like to finish the show each time. And I like to go around one last time. Just asking you guys if you have any final thoughts, just any takeaways from the show that you'd like to echo one last time. But more importantly, I love you guys to offer some type of a recommendation. And this can take any form. It could be just a little piece of life advice that you have. It could be a recommendation for a book.

or a movie or, you know, an article you read or even like an app or a device that you like using. So really anything that you think people that have been watching will benefit from, you can toss that out there as well. So I'll get started so you guys can stew a little bit. But yeah, the takeaway here for me, the thing that stood out for me the most was kind of the community piece. because we're building a bit of community outside of, we'll call it the legacy community. The legacy community is fraught with pessimism and nihilism and is spiraling out of control into just doom spending

and hollowing of the middle class. And it's no wonder that people are feeling down and out. and aren't spending much time with each other anymore. It's just like you feel it, especially when I see my normie friends. I feel it. But I found that Bitcoiners are overwhelmingly positive. Even in the face of dire circumstances, there's hope to be had. And we're building for a brighter future.

And people feel that. And so they exude that in their day-to-day. interactions. And so that's why I love being around Bitcorners so much, why I love, you know, going out and meeting, uh, you know, meeting other bitcoinsers and spending time with them. So I guess my piece of advice to tie into that is if you haven't met other Bitcorners yet, then for the love of God, go do it because it's so worth it to be able to spend time with others that there's a common thread of hope between. So yeah, go meet your other local Bitcoiners. You can do it a lot of different ways.

but look for a local meetup. You know, obviously if you're on X, if you're on Noster, if you're, you know, there's Orange Pill app, there's even just look on meetup.com. There might be something local there. But just search around. And if it's not there, go forth and build it yourself. Make a meetup. Let people, you know, put up a post somewhere.

Let people know that you're hosting something and you can be that mecca in your area that people come to when they get interested. So yeah, that's my piece there. I'll toss to Humble next. Any final thoughts, any takeaways that you have from the episode, and if you have a recommendation, feel free. So I'll just follow up with, we are not psychopaths. We've been coined psychopaths. You know, I mean, there's the, what I think, the right, the far right, maybe it's just the right.

It's been coined weird. And we were coined psychopaths before the far right was coined weird. but we're not psychopaths. It is an amazing community. I've never met such, like, truly empathetic individuals where cancel culture is kind of just out there. And, you know, we say it like it is. We want to, we seek the truth.

You know, we as in for the most part. So, yeah, I think that that's definitely my takeaway and just the whole vibe. I mean, I'm always going to say that I'm bullish on Bitcoin because of the experiences that I've had with, you know, some of the people that are on stage here, you know. The recommendation that I have, I'm currently reading a book called Currency Wars by Jim Records. I think it's Jim Records. And it's great. I think that now is a really good time to read that book.

You know, you can kind of see what's happening in the world. So far, you know, I'm only like a couple chapters in, but. it kind of is speaking to possibly what's happening. You know, it's the same players, the same people that are vying for power. And I think if you're trying to make sense of things, maybe this will help a little bit. It's certainly helping me clear my mind and say, okay, well, let's look at it this way and try to make sense of it. Because I think that's what we all try to do too. You can't make sense of anything that's happening in the world right now.

So any additional insight, yeah, I think that's a really great book. it's currency wars again. It is. Yeah, I like Jim Rickard's stuff. It's funny, it's funny he hasn't dove in. I mean,

he's, I think he's a little skeptical of Bitcoin, but it's, there's, there's a lot of people that, that really get the, the underlying problems of what's going on that, that haven't been able to make that extra leap.

But they can still offer some really good insight in and around the existing system and the, the problems with it. So, yeah. Middy, I'm going to toss it down to you. Final thoughts, recommendations. Go ahead.

It's funny, today I was talking to a coworker, and we were discussing the fact that most people don't question anything. People don't question why do we have to get this shot? Why? People don't question anything. Right now, I have another tragic story. sorry, sorry. But my mom is going through breast cancer treatment. And she had her first treatment this past Tuesday, her first session of chemo. And I spoke to her afterwards, and she

tells me, they said not to diet. And I'm like, so what did you say? They're just telling you to eat whatever you want? No. And I just went on a rank. I said, you're going to eat protein and veggies, and that's it. I don't want to hear about it. I don't want to hear about it. You know, they just want you to feed the cancer and, you know, to keep their business going. So I'm like total, I was just, I was livid.

So anyway, but a recommendation that I would like to make is one of my favorite books is The Creature from Jackal Island by G. Andrew Griffin. That was like at my, you know, the beginning of my Bitcoin journey, it's what like I was like whoa is this for real you know it really it was a shocker if if you guys haven't read it it's it's it's worth a read it's a really long book I actually just do audio audible and but it's it's so worth it and you know it just tells you about the the Fed and how it all started and it's it's very interesting

I highly highly recommend it absolutely yeah and I'm sorry to hear about your mom but I I um again yeah you don't want uh somebody that's fighting something like that to be uh taken in a lot of fiat food at the same time right like you got you got to keep healthy and not be eating not be eating garbage right so yeah but they they push they push the the sad diet not the standard american diet they push it because that's what keeps people sick and people don't people don't question it you know yeah yeah yeah it's I just I just finished fiat food the the the book and the the all of the the the government guidance on food and how they came to that is just so angering it's it's so

horrendous yeah highly recommend but Jekyll the creature from Jekyll Island as well eye-opening for sure. So I appreciate those recommendations. And Ulrich, I'm going to toss it to you finally. Final thoughts, recommendations. Go ahead. Oh, I think you muted, buddy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you switching from your headphones? No. No dice. Go down to the settings wheel at the very bottom and just make sure that it's on the same thing. How about? There you go. Oh, yeah, now?

Yeah, you're good. Oh, no, now testing? Yes, you're good. Sorry, guys, yeah. You're good. I may have messed up my audio. I can't hear you guys, but I'll fix it later. My Bluetooth died, so I had to change it and it all messed up my audio.

First, I want to thank Ben for having me. It was a, it's always a blessing to come on stage. You have a great product, all the things that you do from just the, from the education with the tools to, to why are we bullish? It's just a great product, and I'm proud to be a part of it. I'm proud to be on stage with these two lovely ladies, hearing the stories that you both have.

It's edifying, it's humbling. It keeps me on the straight and narrow just from my mindset. It's amazing the government, you know, a lot of people say, especially people who love their government, you have to wonder, you know, they say, oh, you know, they're incentivized to do things. They're not really, you're not doing it in a malicious way. You kind of have to wonder, like, is there malicious intent involved to keep us essentially in a slave state or not? That's my final thought and my recommendation.

Generally, like always, I like to promote my brother who does good work and probably doesn't get enough credit. Coinicrous, Walton Pleb Underground. They do bang up work. Coinicrous does these daily bits every day, six to ten minutes, breaking down, not necessarily about, you know, where your stack, you know, how big is your stack going to grow from a dollar perspective? But talks about the threats to self-custy, talks about the threats to the protocol. And those are the kind of things that when you go down the engineering five Ys, there's a reason why, you know, Fred Kruger talks about the price, but guys like coin Icarus talk about why it's valuable in the first place. So give Plyb Underground to follow, check them out over.

Awesome. Well, yeah, I agree. They are fantastic. And again, Club Underground dudes, I love hanging out with them and seeing them. Walton gets around to all the events and everything. And I get to, I tend to cross paths with him in various. parts of the world. So, um, but yeah, this, this has been fantastic. Uh, I want to thank all of you guys for, uh, joining in. I want to thank the almost 3,300 some odd people that, uh, tuned in and

checked out the episode, everybody in the chat for, uh, having, uh, all those comments fly by and, uh, offer and support and everything. And, um, yeah, I guess I'll, I'll just wrap it up by saying to all of you thank you for coming and getting bullish with me on a Friday night and all of you are welcome back anytime. Thank you for having us. Yes, thank you. It's good to see you again. For sure. Awesome. All right. We'll see you guys later. Have a good evening. And everybody that is watching, thank you guys again for being here. Be sure to check out all of our guests in these show notes down below. You can follow them and see what they're up to and everything with their handles down there. Also, be sure to hit up the previously mentioned sponsors down below.

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