BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 165 - Why, Lydia!
Episode Date: May 25, 2022Pierre Novellie and Phil Wang chat sweet and savoury, cinemas, nudes and bean juice, Phil got his dinner bought by a fan, Seth Meyers cookies, bin men. Correspondence from: Neil, being lovely, chateau... de caca, Joseph gets in touch about his Moroccan ManPon (Why, Lydia!) Get bonus BudPod on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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                                         It's Budpod 165.
                                         
                                         165. We must strive, we must strive, Pierre. We strive to be back here for one more Budpod.
                                         
                                         At least one more Budpod, that's the least we can say.
                                         
                                         Am I wrong in saying, Phil, that 165 as a number feels yellow and red
                                         
                                         um i don't see yellow and red okay well i see red i see red in the six five as is black to me
                                         
                                         oh interesting yeah five is very to me five is quite uh yeah it's very neutral it's quite masculine it's black oh that is interesting um also hello
                                         
                                         thank you very much to all the pod buds who were at phil's book signing interview chat with both
                                         
                                         of us in bristol in bath in bath in bath yeah bath the uh yes the city of Hygiene The cutesy Jane Austen version of Bristol
                                         
    
                                         Yes
                                         
                                         Bristol's Bridgerton
                                         
                                         Yes, absolutely
                                         
                                         It was at the Bath Festival
                                         
                                         on Saturday
                                         
                                         and Pierre and I
                                         
                                         were at the Comedian Bath
                                         
                                         and it was great, a load of pod buds turned up
                                         
    
                                         Cool cats Yeah, a lot of cool cats who i
                                         
                                         think were very thrilled to have a surprise bonus pierre there yes chatting to me about the book
                                         
                                         yes i don't think i was advertised or i don't know i just showed up with my little book
                                         
                                         yep yep yep.
                                         
                                         I like to think I got some goddamn answers out of you for once, actually.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Pierre really grilled me.
                                         
                                         I think if you're close enough to the stage, you could have seen the beads of sweat forming and dribbling down my forehead.
                                         
                                         You look like Nixon.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         I was like, well, when Phil Wang writes it, it isn't illegal. Nixon yeah yeah yeah well when the film
                                         
                                         Wang write it it isn't illegal we should
                                         
                                         do that we should write a hard-hitting
                                         
                                         stage play called Wang Novelli the little
                                         
                                         slash there it's it's sort of like it's
                                         
                                         done like Frost Nixon but it's just talking about
                                         
                                         people pooing into their own hands
                                         
    
                                         i'm i'm david frost and i've got a whole crew of people saying don't let him get away with it make
                                         
                                         sure he tells you what he thinks about people pooing in their hands yes yes i'll do my best
                                         
                                         and and and he's like so you're saying that when you and Pierre Novelli were talking for all those hours,
                                         
                                         there was recording equipment?
                                         
                                         You were being recorded?
                                         
                                         And I just start sweating like, oh, well.
                                         
                                         Of course, the one thing we never got to the bottom of is why?
                                         
                                         Why record it?
                                         
    
                                         Who on earth would want to hear this?
                                         
                                         Why record evidence of so many crimes that you knew to be wrong?
                                         
                                         Like pooing in your hand.
                                         
                                         I would love to listen to a podcast of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger chatting about shitting themselves.
                                         
                                         It would be of genuine historical value, I feel.
                                         
                                         But it was cool.
                                         
                                         It was nice to...
                                         
                                         Yes, packed house.
                                         
    
                                         Packed house.
                                         
                                         There's like 300, 400 people there.
                                         
                                         So many people.
                                         
                                         Fun questions.
                                         
                                         Good questions.
                                         
                                         Only one was about me on Taskmaster
                                         
                                         because usually I go to these book events
                                         
                                         and I chat about the book for 45 minutes
                                         
    
                                         and I go, any questions?
                                         
                                         And all these hands go up.
                                         
                                         It's like, yes.
                                         
                                         Why did you wear the yellow jumpsuit on Taskmaster?
                                         
                                         And then I'm like,
                                         
                                         unless you have a question,
                                         
                                         if you have a question just about the jumpsuit on Taskmaster,
                                         
                                         can you put your hand down?
                                         
    
                                         And all the hands go down.
                                         
                                         Unless you have a question.
                                         
                                         If you have a question just about the jumpsuit and taskmaster,
                                         
                                         can you put your hand down and all the hands go down?
                                         
                                         But there were questions about the book.
                                         
                                         There were questions about my opinions on things,
                                         
                                         which is exactly what I like to hear.
                                         
                                         I love when people want to know my opinions on things.
                                         
    
                                         It's great.
                                         
                                         And it was great, Pierre.
                                         
                                         It was great.
                                         
                                         We had some real great laughs. You know what, Pierre?
                                         
                                         It was actually the closest we've gotten to the forbidden bud pod live yeah that's true it was it was um it was a bud pod live in all but
                                         
                                         name in some ways yeah the the thin cover of the book they're masquerading for those unaware of the podcast as a way to trick them into coming
                                         
                                         um has it has it made you will literally be it will literally be a thin cover soon
                                         
                                         because the paperback is coming out next month very nice very nice you can finally bend
                                         
    
                                         wang's book that's right that's right no more hard No more hard covers. Just hard truths.
                                         
                                         Yeah, just hard truths.
                                         
                                         Has it softened your heart, Phil, towards the forbidden idea of a live Bud Pod?
                                         
                                         Maybe.
                                         
                                         Maybe.
                                         
                                         I don't want to start getting people excited, but it was fun.
                                         
                                         Has it reassured you that it wouldn't just be you sweating and going, um, poo comes from the bum.
                                         
                                         And then running off stage in that kind of loose elbowed way
                                         
    
                                         that people run when they're children.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it did.
                                         
                                         It did.
                                         
                                         It did reassure me that we would have something to talk about
                                         
                                         in front of a crowd of people for an hour.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah. Oh, yes especially with um live correspondent imagine that correspondence
                                         
                                         straight from the horse's mouths that's quite that's a good idea in it for people to have to
                                         
                                         to say their shame say your shame the the because obviously the correspondence we get is so well
                                         
    
                                         written they'd be like standing up and reading out like a little short story about their own bum.
                                         
                                         It'd be great.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it'd be like a presentation in English class.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         What did your bum do this weekend?
                                         
                                         Everyone?
                                         
                                         Can I hear from you?
                                         
    
                                         Everyone go home and write about what your toilets did over the summer.
                                         
                                         Extra credit, yeah.
                                         
                                         I never understood the idea of...
                                         
                                         Well, I mean, I understood it through implication,
                                         
                                         but I was always fascinated by this American idea
                                         
                                         that they had to get all these...
                                         
                                         It was like Star Trek.
                                         
                                         You had to get these credits together.
                                         
    
                                         God forbid you don't have the credits.
                                         
                                         Which credits were these?
                                         
                                         Well, just in TV shows and things.
                                         
                                         I got to get extra credit.
                                         
                                         That class is worth four credits.
                                         
                                         It was like something from a sci-fi novel.
                                         
                                         Or this is going on my permanent record.
                                         
                                         Yes, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         We've discussed in the past the idea that there's this insane indestructible record somewhere.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And characters can be tempted to doing things where it's like you're
                                         
                                         sure you don't want to come to banjo class no i say it's it's extra credit okay and that'll be
                                         
                                         like the plot will start from there you know it's just credits i just love the idea that you've got
                                         
                                         this little like like video game bank yeah you have to fill mass effect yeah and somehow it's like well you have loads of
                                         
                                         credits now so you have a degree from a university or whatever you go oh okay sick i thought i had
                                         
                                         to do specific like in the uk system it's like specific subjects the whole time and then an exam
                                         
    
                                         and a dissertation there's no chance of outside credits at all thank god and thank fuck
                                         
                                         yes although it would have been funny to get the degree i have while like contributing to it with
                                         
                                         like five credits from like karate or something yeah mini golf mini golf yeah or just a class on
                                         
                                         on where you all write poems.
                                         
                                         Speaking of currency, Pierre,
                                         
                                         last night I went to see the new movie Everything Everywhere All at Once.
                                         
                                         Okay, so that movie,
                                         
                                         everyone I know in the world
                                         
    
                                         is talking about it as if
                                         
                                         they got to the movie theater
                                         
                                         and suddenly
                                         
                                         a big mouth came out of the screen and just sucked them off
                                         
                                         for two hours i i mean they're not far off it is it is amazing really it's amazing yeah it's
                                         
                                         incredible it's one of the yeah it's one of the greatest movies i've i've ever seen and i'm not prone to hyperbole no you're not well yeah i'd say you're prone to
                                         
                                         i'd say you're prone to hyperbole
                                         
                                         right so making things like right yeah decreasing the the bully you're a man i like small bully
                                         
    
                                         i like very small bullies yeah but it's it's absolutely incredible and it's so imaginative and so
                                         
                                         interesting and so beautiful and what done done so in a way humbly like the whole movie i saw today
                                         
                                         it's visually one of the most stunning movies i've ever seen and the budget for the whole movie was i think 25 million dollars which is less apparently
                                         
                                         than the than than the food budget on dr strange gee you're kidding yeah uh no no 25 million dollars
                                         
                                         for benedict sandwiches for big sandwiches beer for benedict's eggs his ex benedict
                                         
                                         his cumberbatch sandwiches cucumber his cucumber batch sandwiches eggs benedict and cucumber
                                         
                                         sandwiches 25 million dollars that's why they're so expensive just a licensing of his name for those
                                         
                                         for those foods yeah it was alone cost 15 million which is a way of his name for those for those foods yeah alone cost 15 million
                                         
    
                                         which is a way of rerouting his fee um god i mean there is a is jamie lee curtis who's in
                                         
                                         everything everywhere all at once who's been tweeting this and i yeah maybe i've maybe i've
                                         
                                         maybe she was kidding and i've taken it maybe she's using hyperbole herself and I've taken it as true.
                                         
                                         But it costs a lot, lot less than Doctor Strange
                                         
                                         and I think it's doing quite a bit better.
                                         
                                         Are you telling me that this is the kind of thing
                                         
                                         I have to see in the cinema?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I would say so.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, balls, okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's truly great.
                                         
                                         It's a lot more Chinese-y than I expected it to be.
                                         
                                         Because one of the director-writers is a Chinese-American.
                                         
                                         And it stars Michelle Yeoh, who's a Chinese-Malaysian.
                                         
                                         She's the great Malaysian actor.
                                         
                                         Oh, right.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Had you heard of her before?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Every Malaysian knows of Michelle Yeoh.
                                         
                                         She was...
                                         
                                         Was she the first Asian Bond girl or something like that? Oh, her, yeah. Every Malaysian knows of Michelle Yeoh. She was... Was she the first Asian Bond girl?
                                         
                                         Or something like that?
                                         
                                         Oh, her!
                                         
                                         Yes, yes. I know who you mean now.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, Ko. Okay.
                                         
                                         Oh, man. I've got to get myself to the
                                         
                                         skin-ima. I've got to get to the skin-ima.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you've got to get yourself
                                         
                                         scowned to the skin-ima.
                                         
                                         I've got to get scowned to the skin-ima to scotch some Scoobies. I've got to get yourself scowned to the cinema. I've got to get scowned to the cinema to scotch some Scoobies.
                                         
                                         I've got to do it.
                                         
                                         It's been ages since I've been.
                                         
    
                                         It's just finding the time.
                                         
                                         I say finding the time.
                                         
                                         It's literally down the road, but showings and all that.
                                         
                                         I just need to get off my ass and do it.
                                         
                                         I saw you go quite a lot.
                                         
                                         Every time I say, oh, that movie's supposed to be good,
                                         
                                         and he's like, yeah.
                                         
                                         You're always like, yeah, it's all right. And he's like, well, when did you see it? And I don't know. I just saw it. You seem quite casual about seeing a lot. Every time I say, oh, that movie's supposed to be good, and he's like, yeah, you're always like, yeah, it's all right.
                                         
    
                                         And he's like, well, when did you see it?
                                         
                                         And I don't know, I just saw it.
                                         
                                         You seem quite casual about seeing a lot of stuff.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I try to just sort of wander down and do it
                                         
                                         almost like it's in my lunch break sort of vibes, ideally.
                                         
                                         Although, I mean, a lot of it is just because I was on those two flights recently,
                                         
                                         and I managed three movies each way, So that's a good six down.
                                         
                                         That's a good go in.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         At the cost of sleep, of course.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         God, I need to do it.
                                         
                                         Phil, what's your go-to movie house snatch?
                                         
                                         My movie house snatch, if it's available.
                                         
                                         Yesterday, I had a small salted popcorn because i i usually
                                         
                                         go for a mixed salt and sweet salty and sweet popcorn but i've had a lot of sweet things
                                         
    
                                         yesterday pierre i don't know how it happened i just i just happened to have a lot of sweet things
                                         
                                         yeah and i and sweet cloys on me hangs around and yes it kind of builds up i can only have so much tolerance per day and once
                                         
                                         i hit my sweet limit i have i i can't take any more yeah i need salty salty salty you um direct
                                         
                                         to heal you and i are quite similar in that respect in that if you have enough of a sweet
                                         
                                         like if we had a sweet a sweet breakfast you know pancake, pancakes, syrup or whatever.
                                         
                                         That's the sugar for the day, really.
                                         
                                         Yeah, we're sons of savory, Pierre.
                                         
                                         We're the sons of savory.
                                         
    
                                         We're a couple of salty little bullies.
                                         
                                         A couple of salty sailors, absolutely.
                                         
                                         And I know what you mean.
                                         
                                         Even if the sweetness was like... The sweetness.
                                         
                                         Even if it was like 14 hours ago, you still go still go no i still kind of feel sick from then yeah yep it's like the sugar stays in that restaurant
                                         
                                         when they're like would you like the dessert i'm i don't even do that oh maybe the shell i don't
                                         
                                         even do that sort of flirty thing with everyone with oh i don't know maybe i'll just straight
                                         
                                         away bill that's my dessert.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Bill, you're going to put icing sugar in it?
                                         
                                         That's your business, but I want that.
                                         
                                         Bill!
                                         
                                         I'm full of salt and I want to go to bed.
                                         
                                         I've filled myself with salt and oil.
                                         
                                         And now I have to sleep.
                                         
                                         And if I have dessert, it'll be the chalky little mint
                                         
    
                                         that you put on the bill.
                                         
                                         At most.
                                         
                                         The crunchy little chalk stick with sugar in it that I...
                                         
                                         I mean, the whole dessert course doesn't really make sense.
                                         
                                         Like, well, now you're so full and lethargic and slow and a bit sick.
                                         
                                         Would you like some caffeine and sugar to keep you awake
                                         
                                         during this uncomfortable period yeah now that you're packed with oil and salt and you feel
                                         
                                         heavy like a bear do you would you want to just lose your mind for a bit do you want to do you
                                         
    
                                         want to sprint home shitting i guess the shitting bit is a good part that's a good reason to have coffee right
                                         
                                         after a big meal yeah that's true evacuate make space yeah gotta get a head start on tomorrow's
                                         
                                         homework as it were get it pre-downloaded so you can just uh install it the next day yeah i everything everything ever all at once superb
                                         
                                         everyone must must uh see it it's it's it's just great to have so much chinese so many chinese
                                         
                                         actors in it and they're all and they speak chinese in an authentic way there's so much
                                         
                                         authentic chinese stuff but it's also it's also very accessible for anyone who isn't Chinese, obviously.
                                         
                                         You're the first person I know who's gone on about how brilliant it was
                                         
                                         who's actually mentioned how Chinese-y it is.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, it's astonishingly Chinese-y.
                                         
                                         I mean, for a huge film like this.
                                         
                                         Well, retrospective credit to all the honkies who were talking about how good it was
                                         
                                         who resisted the urge to go on about how chinesey it was i i then continued the evening i the friend who i went with
                                         
                                         went home after the film and i was peckish so i went down to uh lan zuo la mian which is a noodle
                                         
                                         place in lesser square there's a tiny little hole in the wall basically that's very good so it's
                                         
                                         always packed but i got a little
                                         
                                         place and i sat down i was into this packed table with other chinese people and i got delicious
                                         
    
                                         chinese noodles after a chinese film and then one of the chinese gals leant over and said sorry are
                                         
                                         you phil wang no and she she'd just seen my special with a friend and then she's saying to
                                         
                                         and then she leaned over to the other chinese people at the table and she said tasha you go honey or ming the stand-up comedian which
                                         
                                         meant uh which meant he's a very famous stand-up comedian and then and and then she went away when
                                         
                                         she left and she came back and said i paid for your bill no, she got a photo with me. She paid for my nudes. And I was like,
                                         
                                         am I still in the movie?
                                         
                                         It was so great.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
    
                                         It's such a Chinese...
                                         
                                         So thank you to that lady,
                                         
                                         that gal.
                                         
                                         I paid for your...
                                         
                                         She paid for your nudes.
                                         
                                         She paid for my nudes
                                         
                                         and my soya bean milk.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's all anyone ever wants
                                         
                                         from a strange woman.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm a strange woman to Yeah. Is free soybean milk.
                                         
                                         I want a strange woman to buy me nudes and bean juice.
                                         
                                         That's what people get on your OnlyFans, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Nudes and bean juice.
                                         
    
                                         That's the bean you want to juice for the end of the evening.
                                         
                                         Not the coffee bean, the soybean.
                                         
                                         I start and end my days, Pierre,
                                         
                                         with a black bean and then a white bean.
                                         
                                         It's the yin and yang.
                                         
                                         The Phil Wang yin-yang
                                         
                                         bean approach.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the yin-yang bean diet.
                                         
    
                                         Start the day with a black
                                         
                                         bean, end with a white bean.
                                         
                                         God, yeah.
                                         
                                         By God, I've cracked it.
                                         
                                         You've nailed it. And try and maybe go through all the other
                                         
                                         colors of beans throughout the day and then just fart yourself to sleep
                                         
                                         that's so cool so what was the reaction i here's i'm interested was she the only person who knew
                                         
                                         and when she sort of excitedly told everyone else in chinese did they look up from their noodles and or or did they just go and pull their balls away it was a very
                                         
    
                                         polite chinese indifference nice it was a kind of oh okay oh okay if you say so and the girls
                                         
                                         direct across from me um she just uh she when when the girl who recognized me left, she caught my eye and she just gave me one of those smiles that kind of like smile.
                                         
                                         It's sort of like just a quick acknowledgement that we're both here.
                                         
                                         Smile.
                                         
                                         Like when you bump into a colleague in the kitchen making coffee and just like, you've got nothing to say to each each other but you can't not acknowledge that you know
                                         
                                         each other and they've happened to be in the same space at the same time so you have to give the
                                         
                                         sort of kind of flat smile all right so she did that to you as if to say i'm not buying you any
                                         
                                         food yeah pretty much i'm not buying you any food but i heard what she said and i'm happy for you
                                         
    
                                         i heard i heard what she said i saw you take the selfie and I think that's all great.
                                         
                                         But by God,
                                         
                                         if you think I'm going to buy you
                                         
                                         a sweet red bean paste dessert,
                                         
                                         you got another thing coming.
                                         
                                         You know, I come to think of it now.
                                         
                                         The way I looked at her after the girl left
                                         
                                         did look a bit like me going,
                                         
    
                                         and what are you going to buy me?
                                         
                                         So if you go, bye, bye, bye, thank you, bye.
                                         
                                         And then you just look up like, well?
                                         
                                         Your turn.
                                         
                                         And you're just with one chopstick just hammering on the side of an empty bowl.
                                         
                                         I'm hungry!
                                         
                                         Who's next?
                                         
                                         You become like
                                         
    
                                         that sort of demon from Spirited Away.
                                         
                                         Which one?
                                         
                                         The big ghost demon with the mask on
                                         
                                         that keeps eating.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         No face.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You just sat there like no face.
                                         
    
                                         As people sort of buy you tribute.
                                         
                                         That's really cool, man.
                                         
                                         It was lovely.
                                         
                                         Lovely evening.
                                         
                                         How the hell do you round it?
                                         
                                         How the hell do you end an
                                         
                                         evening like that you've just got to go into leicester square and start firing a gun into the
                                         
                                         sky don't you it's the only way to end on a high when the heights you go great film you feel very
                                         
    
                                         sort of like enveloped by the film embraced and then to be literally fed and embraced by someone
                                         
                                         who's seen your work and then, that's a lot of energy.
                                         
                                         I'm surprised you didn't.
                                         
                                         In a restaurant that was thematically consistent with the movie I'd just seen.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was a good evening.
                                         
                                         I'm surprised you didn't sprint home and commit several murders on the way.
                                         
                                         It was lovely.
                                         
                                         It was lovely.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, don't think I didn't consider it, Pierre.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I was also on one of those gentle hangovers
                                         
                                         where i hadn't slept too great but i wasn't like sick or headachy i was just a bit sort of
                                         
                                         woozy and foggy dreamy yeah dreamy you can have one of those kind of dreamy days we can't
                                         
                                         where everything feels just a little bit surreal and and so that kind of added to it that was
                                         
                                         really nice there's no way to operate those
                                         
                                         days you can't you can't have anything important to do that day but they can be quite nice sort of
                                         
    
                                         zen reflective emotional days i find yeah definitely and especially yesterday where you
                                         
                                         had a sort of combination of oh it was a warm day but in my head the ideal would be a very
                                         
                                         just a very short burst of very soft rain it's lovely the weather temperature right now in london yesterday today is ideal it's so nice
                                         
                                         it's not raining but it's a bit cool on the air pierre yes cool in the shade so nice so what um
                                         
                                         to to travel back what sweets what sweets phil because i i i did oh at the cinema well no what
                                         
                                         sweets did you have that made you have to have the little salty boy because you said you had a sweet
                                         
                                         sweet day oh yeah i had a sweet day because i started the day with a cinnamon uh croissant
                                         
                                         pastry thing that was nice after a bite but then then after three, you're like, this is too sweet.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, and it quickly degenerates into you sort of go,
                                         
                                         is this cinnamon icing in folds of essentially paper?
                                         
                                         Yeah, so I ended up throwing that away.
                                         
                                         It's also not a great way to start your day, just like load up with sugar,
                                         
                                         and you go, ooh, I'm awake, I'm ready.
                                         
                                         And then half an hour afterwards, you're like, I want to go to bed yeah the 11 30 a.m crash and then um in the afternoon i had a an enormous
                                         
                                         american cookie from my seth meyers when i performed on the seth meyers late late show in
                                         
                                         new york it's on youtube now if you look up phil wang seth meyers i did a five minute set on there
                                         
    
                                         um but i got a little goodie bag because they always give these tv shows always give you a in New York. It's on YouTube now. If you look up Phil Wang Seth Meyers, I did a five minute set on there.
                                         
                                         But I got a little goodie bag because these TV shows always give you a little goodie bag to take home.
                                         
                                         Oh, cool.
                                         
                                         And I got some
                                         
                                         New York cookies
                                         
                                         from this place that is supposedly well known.
                                         
                                         And they're so thick.
                                         
                                         They're so thick, these cookies,
                                         
    
                                         Pierre. There's basically cake in the middle
                                         
                                         and a cookie on the outside. It's thick. They're thick, boys. They're like thick these cookies Pierre There's like basically cake in the middle What? And a cookie on the outside
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         It's thick
                                         
                                         They're thick boys
                                         
                                         They're like
                                         
                                         They're the size of English scones
                                         
                                         But they're cookies
                                         
    
                                         Jesus Christ
                                         
                                         That's not a cookie anymore
                                         
                                         They're thick with two C's
                                         
                                         Boys
                                         
                                         B-O-I-S
                                         
                                         Yeah they are
                                         
                                         They got that cake
                                         
                                         They got that cake as they say
                                         
    
                                         Oh my lord And what is Seth Meyers We haven't really discussed that What's Seth Meyers like in real life? IRL They got that cake. They got that cake, as they say.
                                         
                                         Oh, my Lord.
                                         
                                         And what is Seth Meyers?
                                         
                                         We haven't really discussed that.
                                         
                                         What's Seth Meyers like in real life?
                                         
                                         IRL.
                                         
                                         IRL.
                                         
                                         Seth Meyers is a really nice guy.
                                         
    
                                         He came in to my dressing room before I went on to give me a little chat,
                                         
                                         just to introduce himself and everything. He was telling me about when he used to do the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.
                                         
                                         Mad.
                                         
                                         In 2000, I think 1999 to 2001 or two or something,
                                         
                                         like he did the Fringes.
                                         
                                         And I think, unless I'm misunderstood,
                                         
                                         he shared these bills,
                                         
                                         or at least one of them,
                                         
    
                                         with none other than a young, the office mackenzie crook
                                         
                                         whoa mackenzie crook doing weird character stuff and seth meyers doing his stand-up whenever i
                                         
                                         hear about famous americans doing the edinburgh fringe in any context it always weirds me out
                                         
                                         in the same way that if i found out seth meyers had gone to my primary school
                                         
                                         found out Seth Meyers had gone to my primary school.
                                         
                                         When?
                                         
                                         It is.
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
    
                                         It's also funny because the fringe is something that we all here in the UK in the comedy industry
                                         
                                         accept as something you sort of need to do.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And we know why we do it.
                                         
                                         We know why we spend all that money
                                         
                                         and go through all that emotional and mental turmoil for a month.
                                         
                                         We know why we do it.
                                         
                                         We know that that's going to happen
                                         
    
                                         and we still sign up to it. That's how much it it means to us but then when an american says they did it we go oh why
                                         
                                         are you nuts you're mental as we continue to do it for a decade yeah what i think is that we've
                                         
                                         internalized so much the the understanding that americans have a better life than we do
                                         
                                         yeah and enjoy themselves and
                                         
                                         have a more pleasant life experience
                                         
                                         and we're like, what? But these horrible
                                         
                                         experiences are for us, not you.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's almost eerie.
                                         
    
                                         It's a bit like finding a whole bunch of
                                         
                                         cult in America of fans of
                                         
                                         like, Wetherspoon's
                                         
                                         breakfasts.
                                         
                                         Well, the breakfasts apparently
                                         
                                         have quite a good reputation. The burgers, maybe.
                                         
                                         You sort of go, really?
                                         
                                         And they go, yeah, we love it.
                                         
    
                                         But you have better things, don't you?
                                         
                                         Very mysterious.
                                         
                                         Don't you?
                                         
                                         I did the opposite on Sunday, Phil.
                                         
                                         It was my older sister has a birthday or had a birthday,
                                         
                                         depending on when you're listening to this, recently.
                                         
                                         And we had a braaiai a lecker braai
                                         
                                         a big old barbecue oh lovely and i ate a mile of meat
                                         
    
                                         eat them why don't you eat a mile in pierre's shoes and see how you feel after that?
                                         
                                         Eat a mile in my shoes.
                                         
                                         Yeah?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And see how you feel.
                                         
                                         You don't think meat is good?
                                         
                                         Well, why don't you eat a mile in Pierre's shoes?
                                         
                                         Oh, you don't feel sick, do you? You don't feel sick right now?
                                         
    
                                         You don't feel like you're about to throw up
                                         
                                         and shit at the same time?
                                         
                                         Well, why don't you eat a mile in Pierre's shoes?
                                         
                                         We're trying to get everyone in Britain to eat a mile in pierre's shoes we're trying to get everyone in britain to eat a mile of meat to hasten the destruction of the planet eat a mile of meat
                                         
                                         a meter of meat a day and you'll hit a mile before you know it. Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         I'd love that.
                                         
                                         Chris Tarrant telling everyone.
                                         
                                         Chris Tarrant visibly and audibly doing little burps and farts and just really red and sweaty.
                                         
    
                                         Just eating some mince.
                                         
                                         You know, it's like cooked mince and onions. Eat a mile of meat.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I did my part.
                                         
                                         Wow, that's amazing.
                                         
                                         So your sister had a birthday braai.
                                         
                                         So yeah, a big South African BBQ
                                         
                                         in someone's garden or in a park or...
                                         
                                         In a garden.
                                         
    
                                         On a runway.
                                         
                                         On a runway. Under siege runway. On a runway.
                                         
                                         Under siege.
                                         
                                         On a busy runway.
                                         
                                         In the air, on the beaches.
                                         
                                         In the valleys and in the hills.
                                         
                                         We ate a mile of meat.
                                         
                                         That's lovely.
                                         
    
                                         Now, I know you are a tongman yourself.
                                         
                                         You like to man the forge at a braai.
                                         
                                         Were you flipping joints?
                                         
                                         I was...
                                         
                                         Tossing saucies?
                                         
                                         I was off duty.
                                         
                                         I was off duty.
                                         
                                         My brother-in-law was on duty along with my father.
                                         
    
                                         And that's more than enough Tongmen.
                                         
                                         That's more than enough Tong men. There's more than enough Tong men.
                                         
                                         I helped out by eating a lot of dip.
                                         
                                         Just with a spoon?
                                         
                                         Yeah, very helpful.
                                         
                                         And intermittently watching pieces of a show on Netflix
                                         
                                         that my nephew, one of my nephew's likes,
                                         
                                         which appears to be about dinosaurs that are made out of trucks.
                                         
    
                                         Dinosaurs that are made out of trucks. Dinosaurs that are made out of trucks.
                                         
                                         Okay, so like in the Transformer kind of way,
                                         
                                         the trucks become a dinosaur,
                                         
                                         but then you can see like the shoulder is,
                                         
                                         I don't know, one of the axles,
                                         
                                         and then the back is the exhaust pipe,
                                         
                                         or the tail is the exhaust pipe, or something like that.
                                         
                                         You've got the right idea, but they're're never just trucks they're always dinosaurs made of machinery that
                                         
    
                                         is also construction machinery truck stuff okay so they're all specifically construction vehicles
                                         
                                         yes but one is like a stegosaurus truck and one is like a t-rex truck
                                         
                                         oh yeah okay yeah yeah yeah now i would have thought that see the the backhoe no not the backhoe
                                         
                                         yes the backhoe is the crane i don't know one that swivels around and has a big long
                                         
                                         digger plow thing it already looks like a brontosaurus so does that one not have to change
                                         
                                         you're pretty much bang on there yeah they've just given it some eyes and some robo teeth kind of
                                         
                                         you're pretty much bang on there yeah they've just given it some eyes and some robo teeth kind of
                                         
                                         googly eyes yeah and they're all on like tank tracks or wheels depending on the original device and i just i was watching it and i was so impressed with whoever had just gone you
                                         
    
                                         know what little boys fucking love trucks and diggers and they fucking love dinosaurs so why
                                         
                                         don't we just insanely smush them together and become billionaires and they fucking love dinosaurs so why don't we just insanely
                                         
                                         smush them together and become billionaires
                                         
                                         and they just did it
                                         
                                         I mean I would have been
                                         
                                         obsessed with that show when I was a kid
                                         
                                         I loved construction vehicles so much
                                         
                                         we'd be walking
                                         
    
                                         around town and if
                                         
                                         there was an unattended
                                         
                                         backhoe or
                                         
                                         plough thing,
                                         
                                         my father would just pick me up and put me in the cockpit
                                         
                                         and I would just be beaming from ear to ear.
                                         
                                         I loved construction vehicles when I was a wee lad.
                                         
                                         Do you remember what the feeling was?
                                         
    
                                         The source of the love?
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I was just obsessed with it.
                                         
                                         There are just photos of me as a toddler,
                                         
                                         and it's like the happiest I've ever been,
                                         
                                         just sat in the seat by some controls of a backhoe.
                                         
                                         I don't know what it was.
                                         
                                         I think I love the yellow.
                                         
    
                                         I love the yellow and the black on them.
                                         
                                         I love the size of them and the power.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I think there's some stuff that little kids like that I get.
                                         
                                         It kind of makes sense to me how many kids are obsessed with the bin men.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Yes, yes, yes.
                                         
    
                                         I get that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because the bin men are kind of heroes, really.
                                         
                                         They take away your horrible, stinky bins.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and they're sort of mysterious.
                                         
                                         And a rubbish truck's kind of cool.
                                         
                                         It's got like clank, clank, clank bits.
                                         
                                         It's a big truck.
                                         
    
                                         It's also a big truck.
                                         
                                         It's got a mouth at the end. It's a big truck. It's got a mouth at the end.
                                         
                                         They're quite strong.
                                         
                                         The strong heroes are coming.
                                         
                                         And your parents are obsessed
                                         
                                         with them. Your parents always put out the bins.
                                         
                                         What about the bins? The bins, bins, bins.
                                         
                                         Always going on about the bins.
                                         
    
                                         So they clearly matter.
                                         
                                         For these mysterious
                                         
                                         early morning gods.
                                         
                                         I was fascinated when I was young by systems that took something from somewhere
                                         
                                         and made them end up elsewhere.
                                         
                                         So like Post, I was really fascinated by.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Or the bin men and streams.
                                         
    
                                         I was very fascinated by streams when i was small and by
                                         
                                         the idea of putting like a leaf at one bit of a stream and and and and having watching the stream
                                         
                                         take the leaf further down stream the idea of something being placed one play in one spot and
                                         
                                         then it being taken to another spot really fascinated me you really falling dropping
                                         
                                         things i was really fascinated by you need to watch the amazon series that is very unknown and underrated in my opinion patriot
                                         
                                         because they discuss it's very good on its own terms but also there's a there's a very
                                         
                                         interesting amount of like themes and discussion about like moving things from a to b and what
                                         
                                         that means because the guy it's a cia agent who has to masquerade as a fluid dynamics expert.
                                         
    
                                         Pipes and so on.
                                         
                                         Oh, yes.
                                         
                                         I'm interested.
                                         
                                         And it's very funny.
                                         
                                         And I would say it's a mixture of, it's like if the Coen brothers tried to make a Wes Anderson
                                         
                                         spy TV show.
                                         
                                         Gosh, that mixes together a lot of things I quite like.
                                         
                                         Yeah, man.
                                         
    
                                         Give it a little look.
                                         
                                         But before you look
                                         
                                         at it shall we look at some correspondence?
                                         
                                         Oh yeah
                                         
                                         Yes
                                         
                                         Twitters, emails,
                                         
                                         phone calligraphy,
                                         
                                         your sister
                                         
    
                                         and her sister
                                         
                                         to prove me right
                                         
                                         correspondence
                                         
                                         Neil gets in touch
                                         
                                         Neil
                                         
                                         watch your spiel
                                         
                                         watch his spiel
                                         
                                         well I'll tell you what his spiel is
                                         
    
                                         he says hi Filvis and Pierre head
                                         
                                         oh Beavis and Butthead
                                         
                                         yeah and the subject line is
                                         
                                         Peavis and Poohead which is good
                                         
                                         yeah that's good
                                         
                                         I'm a P pistorian who occasionally subjects his dearly beloved wife to your podcast when
                                         
                                         we are going back and forth to hospitals while we wait for her kidney transplant
                                         
                                         oh gosh yeah um after the fourth or fifth time of me forcing her to listen while i drove giggling
                                         
    
                                         and holding back tears of laughter i looked over and she was struggling to cope with the story of the poo vagina.
                                         
                                         Oh, the nadir.
                                         
                                         The nadir.
                                         
                                         Episode 53, if memory serves.
                                         
                                         Or 51, something like that.
                                         
                                         She found it so funny that she came up with the title of the email, Beavis and Poo Head.
                                         
                                         She said, they are the posh, clever the email Beavis and Pooh Head. She said they are the posh clever
                                         
                                         version of Beavis and Butthead.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's
                                         
                                         pretty spot on. That's pretty good.
                                         
                                         I'm pleased with that.
                                         
                                         I'd put that on a poster.
                                         
                                         The posh
                                         
                                         Was it the posh? Posh clever.
                                         
                                         Yes, the posh clever
                                         
                                         Beavis and Buttheadthead yeah i'll take that absolutely
                                         
    
                                         yeah and i think well both of both of you know you and i are are posh sounding in the sense that
                                         
                                         we've had to fit into this country's um incredibly stratified education system and we're not legit
                                         
                                         aristocrats sadly for us no sadly sadly someday we'll have a needlessly enormous home that we have to rent out to the national trust but not yet not yet um he says i think this is high praise indeed and i will not
                                         
                                         redact it also a love of frank skinner's show correct very wise man neil very good has taste
                                         
                                         as i'm now five episodes away from fully catching up over a hundred hours in under two weeks
                                         
                                         being a full-time carer gives me lots of podcast time
                                         
                                         bloody hell Neil
                                         
                                         that's a lot
                                         
    
                                         good for you
                                         
                                         absolutely love both of your work
                                         
                                         I was aware of Phil from his stand-up work
                                         
                                         and as soon as I saw Pierre on the MASH report I was hooked
                                         
                                         wow that's an old cut
                                         
                                         that's a deep cut
                                         
                                         wow that's great
                                         
                                         it was a great appearance
                                         
    
                                         popping up there talking about Ukraine before it was cool in one of them yeah wow wow
                                         
                                         you in on the ground i was in on the ground yeah that's right and people weren't listening
                                         
                                         they're listening now to bud pod uh keep up the amazing podcast i have a local shop that
                                         
                                         sells lots of tats so expect some pics uh more marjorie and lucky kentucky please um he also says uh i have i've had ibs for 20 years so
                                         
                                         there's too many poo stories to mention but imagine a posh restaurant with basically a shed in one
                                         
                                         corner with the toilet in 40th birthday party with the entire family and you can imagine the rest
                                         
                                         can't bring myself to recall it in full sorry koji Koji. Neil. I mean, Neil's left us very much there with a blank canvas.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, but I mean...
                                         
                                         To bury his shit onto.
                                         
                                         Much like monsters in horror films,
                                         
                                         the shit incident we're now imagining
                                         
                                         is always more frightening than the truth.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         It's the unseen horror that's scarier than the seen horror.
                                         
                                         Why would a posh restaurant have a shed
                                         
    
                                         with a toilet in the corner?
                                         
                                         Yeah, that doesn't sound very posh, does it like a little enclosure i know what he means somewhere where like the toilet facilities have been put
                                         
                                         in by builders like just putting up a wall that wasn't originally there you know but that doesn't
                                         
                                         sound posh unless it's like a resort or something and you walk you walk through uh a covered little path with lovely plants on either side
                                         
                                         into the toilet chalet.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Maybe then.
                                         
                                         And then there's a little Frenchman in there.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And he says,
                                         
                                         Bienvenue, bienvenue à le chalet.
                                         
                                         Au chalet de pou, au chalet de caca.
                                         
                                         Bienvenue à le chalet.
                                         
                                         Au chalet de pou, au chalet de caca.
                                         
                                         Chalet de caca.
                                         
                                         Chalet de caca.
                                         
    
                                         Oui.
                                         
                                         If I ever make a wine, I'll be called Chateau de Caca.
                                         
                                         Chateau de Caca Mise en
                                         
                                         Bottum
                                         
                                         Mise en Bottum
                                         
                                         Mise en Derriere
                                         
                                         Oh no that's the name of the
                                         
                                         That's the burlesque house in
                                         
    
                                         Oh yes it is
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         You know when it gets on wine bottles it says
                                         
                                         Mise en Bouteille
                                         
                                         Put into bottles
                                         
                                         So that but Mise like bottled put into bottles oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so that but mise en bottom put into bottoms audible that could be then what's on your
                                         
                                         would you ever sell uh medical products that with unproven uh efficacy phil perhaps uh enemas
                                         
                                         do and do enemas have unproven efficacy would you Would you sell a product of unproven medical efficacy?
                                         
    
                                         Such as a herbal enema?
                                         
                                         No, I don't think I would.
                                         
                                         Not seriously.
                                         
                                         I don't think I would.
                                         
                                         But then, you know, you never know.
                                         
                                         If you're listening and you've got a bunch of them in a warehouse,
                                         
                                         as long as you let us be honest.
                                         
                                         Do write in and we'll, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         We'll make a case-by-case judgment.
                                         
                                         We'll make a case-by-case judgment. We'll make a case-by-case judgment.
                                         
                                         Let's see,
                                         
                                         what is this person?
                                         
                                         Joseph, Joseph,
                                         
                                         Guts and Touch.
                                         
                                         He does sign his name.
                                         
                                         Joseph.
                                         
    
                                         What up, brosif?
                                         
                                         Oh, he's a Technicolor dreamboat.
                                         
                                         Dear Dr. Novelly
                                         
                                         and License to Fill.
                                         
                                         Oh, nice, nice nice nice nice A bond
                                         
                                         A bond themed correspond
                                         
                                         A correspondence
                                         
                                         Correspondence
                                         
    
                                         I have a story that you as pooveas of turd based tales may enjoy
                                         
                                         Yes
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         In the summer of 2012 me and two friends
                                         
                                         Were towards the end of a backpacking trip around Morocco
                                         
                                         Ah I've been sort a backpacking trip around Morocco.
                                         
                                         Ah, I've been sort of backpacking in Morocco.
                                         
                                         It's a, yeah, it's a cool country.
                                         
    
                                         Hot, I imagine.
                                         
                                         Quite hot, quite hot. And you need to know your French to get around.
                                         
                                         You need to know your Chateau de Caca from your mise en bottom.
                                         
                                         Let's just put it that way.
                                         
                                         You need to know your Chateau de Caca from your mise en bottom.
                                         
                                         Let's just put it that way.
                                         
                                         While in the coastal town of... Oh, God.
                                         
                                         Walidia.
                                         
    
                                         Walidia.
                                         
                                         Walidia.
                                         
                                         That's what you say when your wife Lydia's put on a beautiful dress.
                                         
                                         Walidia. And you're a southern... You're as beautiful as the day we met, Walidia. Your wife Lydia's put on a beautiful dress. Wah, Lydia.
                                         
                                         And you're a southern...
                                         
                                         You're as beautiful as the day we met, Wah Lydia.
                                         
                                         And you're a southern colonel.
                                         
                                         Wah, Lydia.
                                         
    
                                         I didn't know you still owned that.
                                         
                                         So that's where he is.
                                         
                                         He's in Wah, Lydia.
                                         
                                         Coastal town, he says.
                                         
                                         I was struck down with a nasty case of food poisoning
                                         
                                         Owing to a dodgy bit of fish
                                         
                                         Ah
                                         
                                         Yeah they have dodgy fish down in that Walidia
                                         
    
                                         Walidia
                                         
                                         This fish is repugnant
                                         
                                         This fish has given me the humors
                                         
                                         Walidia Walidia This fish has given me the humors.
                                         
                                         Oh, Lydia.
                                         
                                         Why, Lydia, this fish is... Why, it's running down my thighs.
                                         
                                         Bit vivid there.
                                         
                                         Dodgy bit of fish.
                                         
    
                                         This meant that for the duration of our two-day stay,
                                         
                                         while my friends were sunning themselves by the lagoon, I was stuck in the bathroom of our apartment, destroying the toilet with a violent and incessant firework display.
                                         
                                         I did my best to keep hydrated and took plenty of travel sickness medication, but when the time came to move on to our final stop of the trip
                                         
                                         in Fez...
                                         
                                         Uh, Fez,
                                         
                                         yes, classic. Yeah, classic. He's going
                                         
                                         to Fez. F-E-S, which I believe
                                         
                                         is where they're from, isn't it? The hats?
                                         
    
                                         It's where the hat's from, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Hats off
                                         
                                         to Fez, that's what they say. Nice.
                                         
                                         All the tourist gear.
                                         
                                         Nice. I love that.
                                         
                                         I was feeling quite literally less than half the man i used to be i'd been well
                                         
                                         and truly imploded and hollowed out from the inside and felt more like a hologram than a human
                                         
                                         as we were strapping on our backpacks and about to leave the apartment to catch our bus i felt
                                         
                                         a rumble in my stomach followed by a sharp abdominal contraction i sort of imagined him
                                         
    
                                         at that point like, you know when a
                                         
                                         tarantula sheds
                                         
                                         a skin because it got too big?
                                         
                                         And it leaves a sort of ghost tarantula.
                                         
                                         Like just kind of...
                                         
                                         Just a casing in the shape of
                                         
                                         a tarantula. That's what I imagined.
                                         
                                         A casing in the shape of a backpacker.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's right. That's what I imagined
                                         
                                         Joseph looked like. Yeah, sort of
                                         
                                         like white and sort of
                                         
                                         A bit translucent like a fingernail
                                         
                                         Yeah exactly exactly
                                         
                                         A carapace
                                         
                                         Is that what they're called
                                         
                                         A carapace
                                         
    
                                         Carapace
                                         
                                         Carapace
                                         
                                         Would you like some carapace
                                         
                                         Why Lydia
                                         
                                         Your carapace? Why, Lydia, your carapace is delightful.
                                         
                                         Thank you, sir.
                                         
                                         Why, you must never ask a lady how old she is
                                         
                                         or at what stage of shedding her carapace she's at.
                                         
    
                                         is or at what stage of shedding her carapace she's at
                                         
                                         we're gonna do a
                                         
                                         deep south like cat
                                         
                                         on a hot tin roof but everyone involved is just
                                         
                                         spiders and lobsters
                                         
                                         yeah disgusting
                                         
                                         human sized bugs
                                         
                                         but who abide by the sort of
                                         
    
                                         decorum
                                         
                                         of the old world South.
                                         
                                         Yeah, of the antebellum South,
                                         
                                         just very restrained drawing rooms.
                                         
                                         I've only recently learned
                                         
                                         that antebellum means pre-war.
                                         
                                         Ah, yes, pre the Civil War.
                                         
                                         Because it's only ever referred to,
                                         
    
                                         used to refer to the South of America,
                                         
                                         the antebellum South.
                                         
                                         You never talk about antebellum south you never talk about antebellum
                                         
                                         france really but antebellum south you do i always assumed that it was because i always thought
                                         
                                         antebellum or antechamber so i thought it's like a i thought it was a geographical
                                         
                                         the antebellum south was the bit you were in before you were in the south or something
                                         
                                         well i mean you know temporally space and something. Well, I mean, you know,
                                         
                                         temporally, space and time being the same thing,
                                         
    
                                         Phil, you weren't wrong.
                                         
                                         Yes, yes. I suppose if you take
                                         
                                         an astrophysical
                                         
                                         approach to this,
                                         
                                         technically
                                         
                                         I was correct.
                                         
                                         Space and time are one.
                                         
                                         Yeah, which is a good thing to scream as you get dragged from a shut restaurant. In an astrophysical sense, I was correct. Which is a good thing to... Space and time are one. Yeah, which is a good thing to scream as you get dragged from a shut restaurant.
                                         
    
                                         In an astrophysical sense, I was correct.
                                         
                                         Get off me!
                                         
                                         Yes, the antebellum south.
                                         
                                         So he's...
                                         
                                         What is it?
                                         
                                         Okay, so they're all strapping on their backpacks,
                                         
                                         getting ready to leave.
                                         
                                         They've got a bus to Fez to catch.
                                         
    
                                         Right?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Hats off to Fez. Hats off to Fez.
                                         
                                         Sharp abdominal contraction, and my body seemed to
                                         
                                         fart of its own free will. That's
                                         
                                         astonishing, just your body deciding
                                         
                                         to clench its fist, as it were.
                                         
                                         Making you do it.
                                         
    
                                         I'm in control now.
                                         
                                         I am the captain now.
                                         
                                         I am the anus now.
                                         
                                         Only it wasn't a fart.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         Had to happen.
                                         
                                         It's the fart's big brother.
                                         
                                         It was fart's big brother.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, fart premium.
                                         
                                         It was fart's big brother saying,
                                         
                                         show me who's been bullying you.
                                         
                                         Uh-oh. his fast big brother saying show show show me who's been bullying you only it wasn't a fart a new disaster had struck i made an excuse and said to my friends i was going to do one for the road that's a funny attitude shitting um bloody hell did you hear
                                         
                                         that thunder yeah i thought that was you moving wheeled furniture.
                                         
                                         I thought it was maybe Joseph's fires.
                                         
                                         Yeah, God.
                                         
                                         We've added sound effects to Bud Pod listeners.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that was incredible.
                                         
                                         Yeesh, that was deep.
                                         
                                         That had some bass to it.
                                         
                                         I think I just heard some,
                                         
                                         but it might have been a low-flying plane.
                                         
                                         That bass was like I was in a Berlin nightclub.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that was so deep.
                                         
                                         Bookie.
                                         
    
                                         That's good stuff So he says I'm going to do one for the road
                                         
                                         And I'll catch you up
                                         
                                         He goes to inspect the damage
                                         
                                         Sure enough there are around three tablespoons worth
                                         
                                         Of slimy mucusy shit in my pants
                                         
                                         I
                                         
                                         I think I know
                                         
                                         Yes I can picture it
                                         
    
                                         Like a baby's first poo.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That involuntary, like, that kind of shit where you go, if it weren't for modern medicine,
                                         
                                         I would be dead in a day.
                                         
                                         I think I was haunted.
                                         
                                         He says, three tablespoons may not sound like much, but I can assure you it's enough.
                                         
                                         Clearly the medication. It's like an ectoplasm. It's an ectoplasm it's an ectopoop it's an ectopoop yes it's that kind of poop that's why the thunder happened because it was a ghost
                                         
    
                                         clearly the medication i'd taken to try and bung myself up for the journey hadn't worked
                                         
                                         and the volcano of bubbling shit in my digestive tract was still active i cleaned myself up changed my boxes and put the soiled pair in the bin a lot of binned
                                         
                                         boxes on this podcast more than i would have ever have thought yeah the reality of the situation
                                         
                                         sunk in i was about to embark on a five hour bus trip and had just demonstrated i couldn't even
                                         
                                         make it out of the apartment without charting. Oh no. The asshartment.
                                         
                                         I knew from previous trips there would not
                                         
                                         be a toilet on the bus and wasn't sure
                                         
                                         if the stop of halfway in Casablanca
                                         
    
                                         would allow me enough time to take a toilet break
                                         
                                         and say, spray it again, Sam.
                                         
                                         Very good.
                                         
                                         Very good.
                                         
                                         This is fun trivia.
                                         
                                         That line doesn't exist in the movie. He never says, play it again, Sam. very good um this is um fun trivia that line
                                         
                                         doesn't exist
                                         
                                         in the movie
                                         
    
                                         he never says
                                         
                                         play it again Sam
                                         
                                         that's right isn't it
                                         
                                         does he
                                         
                                         does he
                                         
                                         he says something
                                         
                                         close to it
                                         
                                         um
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         maybe like
                                         
                                         play it
                                         
                                         or
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         the song
                                         
                                         or
                                         
                                         shut up and play
                                         
    
                                         or something
                                         
                                         shut up and play it
                                         
                                         or
                                         
                                         that
                                         
                                         that slaps
                                         
                                         Sam
                                         
                                         I think he said
                                         
                                         that
                                         
    
                                         that tune slaps
                                         
                                         he says
                                         
                                         yo that shit is fire son
                                         
                                         yeah that's the actual line yeah people don't remember or we forget yeah but yes um spray it
                                         
                                         again sam very good um i was trying to think of a joke related to the film and that one is based
                                         
                                         on the often misquoted line from humphrey bogart slash beaufort is the best I could do. Sorry.
                                         
                                         Bumfrey Beaufort. Bumfrey Beaufort.
                                         
                                         Bumpy Blowfart.
                                         
    
                                         Once again, we're getting close to
                                         
                                         losing all
                                         
                                         trace of the original name.
                                         
                                         Just no meaning at all. Just go to someone and go,
                                         
                                         oh, do you know Bumpy Blowfart?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         I don't even know what you've just said.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I've really wrecked it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm hearing it now.
                                         
                                         And I'm on the other side of London to you.
                                         
                                         Spooky.
                                         
                                         Isn't that sweet?
                                         
                                         We're sharing the same storm.
                                         
                                         We share a storm together.
                                         
                                         That would be good, Tant.
                                         
    
                                         You share a storm, yeah.
                                         
                                         So he says, we hadn't budgeted for an extra day in
                                         
                                         WALIDIA, so trying
                                         
                                         to stay for another night
                                         
                                         at the apartment wasn't an option either.
                                         
                                         I knew
                                         
                                         I had to get on the bus in a
                                         
                                         few minutes, and it felt like I was almost certainly going to
                                         
    
                                         shit myself at some point.
                                         
                                         It felt like I was approaching certain doom. I had to
                                         
                                         do something, and fast.
                                         
                                         That something turned out to be developing a device
                                         
                                         I'd later call the Man-Pon.
                                         
                                         The Man-Pon?
                                         
                                         The Man-Pon.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         The Man-Pon is a generous length of toilet roll
                                         
                                         fashioned into a cigar shape.
                                         
                                         It's fun to do a sort of Groucho Marx
                                         
                                         Or Winston Churchill impressions with it
                                         
                                         A generous length
                                         
                                         A generous length of toilet roll fashioned into a cigar shape
                                         
                                         And then placed between one's arse cheeks
                                         
    
                                         Like a hot dog and a bun
                                         
                                         Hot dogs here A bit like a partial like like what the sumo sumo wrestlers of wear that kind
                                         
                                         of sumo wrestler yeah uh underwear nappy thing where they go right through their cheeks yes
                                         
                                         exactly yes but but unlike sumo wrestlers and their culture of honor this is done with the intention of shame yes yes yes yes yeah so he says my plan was thus i would try and get a window seat on the bus
                                         
                                         hopefully at the back and by myself for a bit of privacy and if slash when i shat myself the man
                                         
                                         pond would soak up the liquid feces and keep me and my clothes as clean as possible then i'd
                                         
                                         sneakily remove the manpon from my arse
                                         
                                         and lob it out of the bus window
                                         
    
                                         onto the baking hot motorway
                                         
                                         to be dried to a crisp by the sun.
                                         
                                         I'd then fashion another manpon
                                         
                                         out of the spare toilet roll I had in my pocket,
                                         
                                         shove it between my arse cheeks,
                                         
                                         and start the awful cycle again.
                                         
                                         Quick, another manpon Quick, nurse
                                         
                                         More manpons
                                         
    
                                         The patient's shouting
                                         
                                         I've heard worse ideas
                                         
                                         I've heard worse ideas than the manpon
                                         
                                         No, this is about as smart As I guess you could be, really.
                                         
                                         I want to see this on Dragon's Den.
                                         
                                         I mean, this is the most extremely effective solution he could have done
                                         
                                         short of finding the only place in WALIDIA where you can buy butt plugs.
                                         
                                         Short of literally plugging his butt.
                                         
    
                                         short of literally plugging his butt the man pond seems to be the best
                                         
                                         best answer
                                         
                                         I'm pleased to say that I miraculously made it to Fez
                                         
                                         with my underwear and the man pond relatively
                                         
                                         unsullied
                                         
                                         well done
                                         
                                         I do feel the man pond gave me
                                         
                                         the confidence to take on the long bus ride
                                         
    
                                         and in a small way I'm proud of my improvisation
                                         
                                         I felt like Ramius
                                         
                                         That's what they're like on the tampon adverts
                                         
                                         Yeah you feel proud
                                         
                                         But they show the confidence
                                         
                                         As a woman with a tampon
                                         
                                         Running around, going for a jog
                                         
                                         Having coffee with your friends
                                         
    
                                         It's the same thing with a manpon
                                         
                                         Get a manpon for that boost of confidence Man if you have food same thing with a man pawn. Yeah. Get a man pawn for that boost of confidence.
                                         
                                         Man, if you have food poisoning,
                                         
                                         just get a man pawn and you can go
                                         
                                         bouldering again or roller skating
                                         
                                         or give a business
                                         
                                         presentation.
                                         
                                         And everyone
                                         
    
                                         claps and they don't know that you're
                                         
                                         shitting your pants.
                                         
                                         So he says
                                         
                                         I felt like Ray Mears if he were a character
                                         
                                         in an Irvin Welsh book
                                         
                                         that's a good comparison
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         very good
                                         
    
                                         I should also stress that despite the manpon's name
                                         
                                         I give my blessings for all genders to use it
                                         
                                         at time of invention
                                         
                                         I thought the perfect thing to have to hand to stem the flow
                                         
                                         would be a sanitary product, hence the name.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but he's going full Tim Berners-Lee here.
                                         
                                         This is for the world.
                                         
                                         This is for everyone.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, this is for everyone.
                                         
                                         Just a little while he says that.
                                         
                                         This is for everyone.
                                         
                                         Human pond, you could call it.
                                         
                                         For all humans.
                                         
                                         I'm keen to know what the buds would have done in my situation,
                                         
                                         and if you think I'm completely mental for trying to bung up my ass with a cigar made of toilet roll,
                                         
                                         should I have just passively accepted my fate?
                                         
    
                                         Should I?
                                         
                                         My only other idea was to sacrifice my least favored t-shirt,
                                         
                                         turning it into a sort of nappy,
                                         
                                         and tying a long-sleeved top around my waist to cover its bulky
                                         
                                         form. Do either of you have any
                                         
                                         alternative solutions? Praise be and
                                         
                                         thanks to be
                                         
                                         redacted.
                                         
    
                                         I'd like to
                                         
                                         say, well, I'll just say the praise
                                         
                                         this time. I'd like to say a sincere thank you for producing
                                         
                                         such an amazing podcast. It's comfortably given me the most
                                         
                                         laughs over anything else during the pandemic. Thank you.
                                         
                                         Good luck with the return to live performance.
                                         
                                         Keep up the excellent work.
                                         
                                         Koji Joseph in Vancouver.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, thank you, Joseph in Vancouver.
                                         
                                         Very nice.
                                         
                                         Yes, a great story. And I mean,
                                         
                                         you asked what we would do, but it sounds
                                         
                                         like you did pretty much as well as you could
                                         
                                         have. You nailed it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you nailed it.
                                         
                                         Just imagine... You survived the ordeal and created a new product if we had been there me and phil would
                                         
    
                                         have hugged you like robin williams and goodwill hunting and just said it's not your fault over
                                         
                                         and over again while you cried and shouted while you were going me and and Phil both rubbing your back saying it's not your fault
                                         
                                         It's the fault of
                                         
                                         Wild Lydia
                                         
                                         Wild Lydia your fish sure stinks
                                         
                                         No well done Joseph
                                         
                                         You did a great job
                                         
                                         You innovated
                                         
    
                                         You MacGyvered your way out of there.
                                         
                                         You survived.
                                         
                                         That's all we can do in these situations.
                                         
                                         Survive.
                                         
                                         Well, Phil, now it's time for you and I
                                         
                                         to take the five-hour,
                                         
                                         boiling-hot, toiletless bus
                                         
                                         to the Patreon.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Join us, won't you?
                                         
                                         If that entices.
                                         
                                         Please. There are seats near the back. Also, just. Join us, won't you? If that entices. Please, there are seats near the back.
                                         
                                         Also, just a quick plug, I have, of all things beer, a beer coming out.
                                         
                                         Well, I have a beer that's come out.
                                         
                                         It's called the Orwangutang, and it's a sour orange beer,
                                         
    
                                         the proceeds of which are going to the Orangutan Foundation
                                         
                                         in support of orangutans in my native Borneo.
                                         
                                         The beers are available
                                         
                                         at the Wine Society.
                                         
                                         So go on the Wine Society website and look up the
                                         
                                         Orwangutan to buy
                                         
                                         some good beers for a good cause.
                                         
                                         Buy those beers and help out those
                                         
    
                                         forest guys. Forest guys.
                                         
                                         Orangutans. Yeah.
                                         
                                         My plugs. I'm just doing lots of previews all around the place lots of
                                         
                                         works and progresses london bristol uh preston at some point in july i'll post them on the
                                         
                                         patreon first to give you guys the edge and then i'll post them on twitter marvelous lovely great
                                         
                                         stuff all thanks guys um have a good week i'll see you in the bonus pod bye
                                         
