BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 169 - BonusPod special! 'Sing to me'
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                                         It's Budpod169. Hello folks. Hello folks. Phil is away. He is filming. I think I'm allowed to say this because I think it's on the industry website.
                                         
                                         Total, as a little announcement. Where's the article? Where's the article?
                                         
                                         Oh God. I should have found...
                                         
                                         Outsiders.
                                         
                                         Yes, it's announced.
                                         
                                         David Mitchell series, Outsiders,
                                         
                                         where you are outside
                                         
                                         and David Mitchell makes you demonstrate
                                         
    
                                         that you can survive the apocalypse.
                                         
                                         I think that's it.
                                         
                                         Wang's doing that as we speak.
                                         
                                         I'm recording this on Monday the 20th of June.
                                         
                                         Excuse me.
                                         
                                         Wang's off doing that. So Wang... Wang's in the woods. As we speak, I'm recording this on Monday the 20th of June. Excuse me.
                                         
                                         Wang's off doing that.
                                         
                                         So Wang, Wang's in the woods, surviving, hopefully, fingers crossed.
                                         
    
                                         Hopefully he's not in a sort of 127 hours style situation. I know that he took, I know that he made sure to take a gun, a knife, a sort of scream mask, I think. He said
                                         
                                         it was for a film, for a TV show. Joking, of course. Last thing I want is for people to
                                         
                                         raid the filming set and arrest Phil for, well, he's many crimes, I suppose. Anyway, by way of
                                         
                                         compensation, the reason, normally, I mean, you guys know, we have not let being in different
                                         
                                         hemispheres stop us from recording before. However, Wang's in the woods. Even the woods
                                         
                                         doesn't have enough Wi-Fi and connection and he couldn't take the microphone. You can imagine,
                                         
                                         have enough Wi-Fi and connection and he couldn't take the microphone. You can imagine. He's literally in a tent in the woods and filming all day, of course. Doing... Knifing a squirrel,
                                         
                                         I guess? Hunting rabbits? Do you think they make them hunt? I haven't seen the first series,
                                         
    
                                         I have to admit, of Outsiders. Do you think it's better or worse to hunt a rabbit by snaring
                                         
                                         it in a kind of classic rabbit hunter way?
                                         
                                         Or by sneaking up behind it completely nude but painted in mud like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Predator?
                                         
                                         And just cutting the rabbit's throat and going, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, while you do it?
                                         
                                         Which is weirder?
                                         
                                         That's what I want to know.
                                         
                                         Which of those two do you think is the least odd
                                         
                                         right
                                         
    
                                         yes so by way of compensation
                                         
                                         by way of compensation
                                         
                                         you are about to be treated to the bonus
                                         
                                         part 166
                                         
                                         so this was the bonus part from 166
                                         
                                         which was 3 or 4 weeks ago
                                         
                                         I think it's a nice little
                                         
                                         chunklet and
                                         
    
                                         if you are un listener ordinaire,
                                         
                                         you will not have heard it.
                                         
                                         And the vast majority of our listeners
                                         
                                         are listeners ordinaire.
                                         
                                         So, patrons,
                                         
                                         bear with us. We hope you enjoy the repeat.
                                         
                                         And in the patron...
                                         
                                         In the Patreon,
                                         
    
                                         I will be doing a sort of solo nonsense
                                         
                                         thing. So, enjoy that.
                                         
                                         Also, I have got
                                         
                                         lots of gigs I posted about them on my Instagram
                                         
                                         lots of gigs coming up lots of previews
                                         
                                         at the Bill Murray in London and at
                                         
                                         2 North Town in London
                                         
                                         working on my show baby
                                         
    
                                         and there's going to be lots more in July as well so
                                         
                                         I mean you never know when I'm coming to your
                                         
                                         local area people keep saying like oh when you
                                         
                                         come to Bristol or when you come to wherever I am
                                         
                                         and often the answer is
                                         
                                         I was there last week.
                                         
                                         People need to be more aware
                                         
                                         of what's their local amenities, guys.
                                         
    
                                         You'd be surprised
                                         
                                         how many great comedians
                                         
                                         you can see down the road
                                         
                                         all the time,
                                         
                                         at least in the UK.
                                         
                                         Anyway, so enjoy the following.
                                         
                                         It is bonus pod 166.
                                         
                                         It's bonus pod 166.
                                         
    
                                         You turn up at the discreet door down the alley private investigators it says
                                         
                                         you're nervous about this
                                         
                                         you've never hired a private investigator before
                                         
                                         but you're pretty sure your boyfriend
                                         
                                         or girlfriend is cheating on you
                                         
                                         and you just need to know
                                         
                                         so rap-a-tap-tap you knock on the door, rap a tap tap
                                         
                                         and there's a little
                                         
    
                                         sliding thing
                                         
                                         at eye level that goes
                                         
                                         and two eyes appear
                                         
                                         and the voice
                                         
                                         goes, yes what is it
                                         
                                         and you say, I'm here
                                         
                                         for the buds
                                         
                                         I need the buds
                                         
    
                                         to investigate my boyfriend or girlfriend.
                                         
                                         And you break down crying.
                                         
                                         And the eyes go, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, calm down.
                                         
                                         And the door opens up.
                                         
                                         But the person who was there is gone.
                                         
                                         It's just a hole.
                                         
                                         And you go, oh, okay.
                                         
                                         And you walk through.
                                         
    
                                         And you're walking past.
                                         
                                         And it's like the paint is peeling and the pipes are clanging.
                                         
                                         You're like, oh God, someone needs to fix this building.
                                         
                                         And you go up some stairs onto the next floor and then it's like a row of doors with those sort of kind of the glass bit,
                                         
                                         but it's sort of murky glass, you know, the kind of,
                                         
                                         I don't know,
                                         
                                         distorted glass they have on bathrooms or whatever.
                                         
                                         And,
                                         
    
                                         and on each,
                                         
                                         and on each door,
                                         
                                         and on the first door,
                                         
                                         it says evidence.
                                         
                                         And you're like,
                                         
                                         wow.
                                         
                                         And on the next door,
                                         
                                         it says dark room.
                                         
    
                                         Gosh,
                                         
                                         cool.
                                         
                                         And then on the final door,
                                         
                                         it says the buds.
                                         
                                         Underneath the buds says written, investigators uh pu detectives i don't know and you open the door and it's a big mahogany desk and um you're
                                         
                                         like hi i'm here for the buds i need you to check up on my butt and then just as you see on the wall is like a
                                         
                                         big cork with loads of black and white photographs of you photos of you getting out of your car
                                         
                                         photos of you at the supermarket photos of you voting photos of you putting something in the post, photos of you at a party, photos of you,
                                         
    
                                         like on the toilet,
                                         
                                         photos of you playing at an open mic night
                                         
                                         with your hat on,
                                         
                                         because you went in disguise,
                                         
                                         because you embarrassed them by playing guitar in public,
                                         
                                         but you thought,
                                         
                                         no, I need to come out of my shell.
                                         
                                         But how do they know that was you playing Wonderwall?
                                         
    
                                         And you're like, like wait what's going on
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         from out of a corner
                                         
                                         Pierre and I walk
                                         
                                         in a big trench coat
                                         
                                         that we're sharing, both of us
                                         
                                         so Pierre's on the left
                                         
                                         side of the trench coat, I'm on the right side of the trench coat
                                         
    
                                         and we say
                                         
                                         not so nice to be followed by
                                         
                                         a private investigator
                                         
                                         is it how do you think your boyfriend or girlfriend will feel and you start to break
                                         
                                         down you go yes you're right sorry this wasn't the right thing to do i shouldn't hire you guys
                                         
                                         and then we go hey no no we didn't say that we just say that. We just want you to know how it feels.
                                         
                                         Okay, so when do we start?
                                         
                                         Welcome to Bonus Pod.
                                         
    
                                         I really like the mental image of, you know,
                                         
                                         when people put their hands out with their palms flat facing you and go, no, no, no, no, and like wiggle the arms?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That, but it's like my left arm and your right arm. That's right, in the same big coat. No, no, no no no and like wiggle the arms yeah that but it's like
                                         
                                         my left arm and your right arm that's right in the same no no no we both do in the trench coat
                                         
                                         and it's perfect and like our right my right arm and your left arm are like we're like around each
                                         
                                         other's waists almost i guess see isn't this funny i pictured me in the right and you in the left is
                                         
                                         that is that narcissism do you do you imagine yourself on your on if you're right-handed maybe imagine yourself on the right hand
                                         
    
                                         so maybe that's what it is maybe that's what it is um and i will say in response to um
                                         
                                         uh a query from a from a dear listener um those are not planned those things you say we don't
                                         
                                         even plan them at all like it is really just a plunge in. Can you believe I improvised these?
                                         
                                         Can you believe?
                                         
                                         I like the idea of the buds, man.
                                         
                                         Take it to the buds.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's fun.
                                         
                                         I think that's a cool...
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that sounds cool, the buds.
                                         
                                         It's cool, man.
                                         
                                         Get the buds on it.
                                         
                                         The buds get results.
                                         
                                         Get the buds on this.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Very cool.
                                         
                                         That's a funny detective
                                         
    
                                         character there's two guys in in a coat but instead of like instead of two kids stood on
                                         
                                         each other's shoulders there's two grown men side by side yeah we see we needed to seem bigger
                                         
                                         we're siamese detectives what if it was two men in a two like that's the backstory of the
                                         
                                         buds is that they were two kids in a trench coat.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's fun.
                                         
                                         And they just got really...
                                         
                                         They got used to it.
                                         
                                         They love it.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, and eventually they got too big
                                         
                                         to be on each other's shoulders,
                                         
                                         but they weren't too big to be side by side.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because for a while they were like,
                                         
                                         we can't tell people we're 11 feet tall.
                                         
                                         That's insane.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         It'll have to be side by side.
                                         
    
                                         That's good.
                                         
                                         Another gold star idea from us.
                                         
                                         Another great idea.
                                         
                                         Another great idea.
                                         
                                         We're basically the Coen brothers over here.
                                         
                                         We're the Coen buds.
                                         
                                         The Coen budders.
                                         
                                         The Coen budders. We're the cohen we're the cohen buds the cohen butters the cohen butters we're the cohen butters where's our five-part hbo series spread over a decade that's what i want to know
                                         
    
                                         i've still not seen the new fargo series the last one i saw was because they don't go on netflix
                                         
                                         they haven't gone on netflix the last one i saw was the one with umwan McGregor. Yeah, me too.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         It was really good.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         But then there's one with Chris Rock in the main part.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I've not seen that.
                                         
    
                                         I think Chris Rock's face looks weird.
                                         
                                         Hmm.
                                         
                                         I think he's had a lot of Botox.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think he probably has.
                                         
                                         Because his face used to be like, part of his act was what an expressive face he had. And he probably has. Because his head, his face used to be,
                                         
                                         like part of his act was what an expressive face he had.
                                         
                                         And he still has an expressive face,
                                         
                                         but now it's really like shiny and tight on his skull.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, yes. It's expressive and taut.
                                         
                                         So taut.
                                         
                                         Like a drum, his face.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, like, yeah.
                                         
                                         Like he's
                                         
                                         one of the medical students
                                         
                                         like muscular skeletal
                                         
    
                                         model that's come to life. Yes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah. And he's doing comedy.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah. And being slapped, of course.
                                         
                                         Being slapped about
                                         
                                         with that taut, taut skin. That's why he gives such a good sound.
                                         
                                         It's like a tight drum.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And like, depending on where you slap his face,
                                         
                                         it gets a different like...
                                         
                                         Yeah, there's a snare.
                                         
                                         There's a snare.
                                         
                                         If you tap him under the chin, it...
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         If you slap him on top of the head, it...
                                         
    
                                         It's like, yeah, if you just slap him around enough of the head It's like yeah
                                         
                                         If you just slap him around enough you can get a whole kind of like
                                         
                                         Stomp thing happening
                                         
                                         Well Phil
                                         
                                         Talking of detectives
                                         
                                         And the criminal mind
                                         
                                         And violence
                                         
                                         And violence
                                         
    
                                         You and I were discussing
                                         
                                         just now
                                         
                                         someone
                                         
                                         not someone we know but someone we know of
                                         
                                         shall we say in the entertainment
                                         
                                         business who we reckon is an
                                         
                                         absolute psycho and we don't mean that rhetorically
                                         
                                         we mean genuinely
                                         
    
                                         dead eyes of a shark
                                         
                                         yeah psychopath
                                         
                                         and I was reminded of this
                                         
                                         riddle that supposedly tests to find out if you are a psychopath yeah and if you basically if
                                         
                                         you know the answer to this you're a psychopath or likely to be a psychopath right yeah i found
                                         
                                         i found it on on a website called
                                         
                                         ifuckinglovescience.com
                                         
                                         which probably means it's
                                         
    
                                         pretty scientific
                                         
                                         I imagine it's peer reviewed
                                         
                                         and this
                                         
                                         it says these riddles can supposedly
                                         
                                         determine if you're a psychopath or not
                                         
                                         so we're about to conduct
                                         
                                         a mass
                                         
                                         psychopath test on our listeners
                                         
    
                                         and I reckon we'll find a couple
                                         
                                         because statistically speaking there must be some out there
                                         
                                         yeah or just people
                                         
                                         who are really good at guessing
                                         
                                         yeah unless psychopaths are
                                         
                                         less likely to listen to podcasts because
                                         
                                         they don't like anyone's voice but their own
                                         
                                         what do you think?
                                         
    
                                         yeah and I think even if they listen to podcasts
                                         
                                         they're much less likely to be a patreon subscriber that's true that's true okay so might not be many so this is
                                         
                                         this is the first test this might be the most famous one okay so here we go
                                         
                                         while okay so you have to listen to this story, okay?
                                         
                                         While at her own mother's funeral,
                                         
                                         a woman meets a guy she doesn't know.
                                         
                                         She thinks this guy is amazing,
                                         
                                         a dream man,
                                         
    
                                         and is pretty sure he could be the love of her life.
                                         
                                         However, she never asked him for his name or number, and afterwards could not find anyone who knows who he was.
                                         
                                         A few days later,
                                         
                                         the girl kills her own sister.
                                         
                                         But why?
                                         
                                         I'll give you a couple of moments there
                                         
                                         to think of an answer.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Is the answer,
                                         
                                         that woman's sister was her son?
                                         
                                         Yeah, actually.
                                         
                                         And if you didn't get that answer,
                                         
                                         then you're sexist.
                                         
                                         Well, the answer...
                                         
                                         If your answer was, that woman can't have done a murder, she's a lady.
                                         
                                         Well, guess what?
                                         
    
                                         You need to grow up.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Ladies can murder too.
                                         
                                         Sassy snap, sassy snap, sassy snap.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         Snap, sassy, snap, sassy, snap.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         So the answer is the lady thought the man
                                         
    
                                         would turn up at her sister's funeral.
                                         
                                         The man that she fancied from her mother's funeral
                                         
                                         would turn up at her sister's funeral.
                                         
                                         So that's why she killed her sister.
                                         
                                         Apparently, if you think that answer is the answer,
                                         
                                         then you are a psychopath.
                                         
                                         Okay, or you have a psychopathic thought pattern of some kind.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Or you just watch a lot of TV.
                                         
                                         Or you just watch a lot of TV, or you go on these websites, I guess.
                                         
                                         Okay, so the idea is like, okay, if he was at one funeral, he'll probably be at this one.
                                         
                                         I'll just kill my sister then.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so the idea is like, okay, if he was at one funeral, he'll probably be at this one. I'll just kill my sister then. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Although it doesn't really establish why the man would know
                                         
                                         both the mother and the sister in that same way.
                                         
    
                                         Because it sounds a lot like this man's a cousin.
                                         
                                         It sounds like a lot of this man is related.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so this test also picks up on incestuous people.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so this test also picks up on incestuous people.
                                         
                                         Yes, if your answer was something to do with banjos, then you're an incestuous person.
                                         
                                         Sorry, I just had my coffee.
                                         
                                         I'm coughing because my coffee had bits of limescale in.
                                         
                                         Pierre has monkey pox, everybody.
                                         
    
                                         I've got the monkey pox.
                                         
                                         It's technically
                                         
                                         it's ape pox, but I don't want to get into it.
                                         
                                         Monkey pox.
                                         
                                         At least it's a funny name.
                                         
                                         They're all dense because of monkey pox.
                                         
                                         At least it's got a funny name.
                                         
                                         We'll go out chuckling.
                                         
    
                                         The second test, it says here,
                                         
                                         which actually comes from an official
                                         
                                         questionnaire used in several studies.
                                         
                                         Ooh, several studies.
                                         
                                         Several, you say?
                                         
                                         Involves a battle between individual rescue and the greater good.
                                         
                                         An assessment of utilitarianism.
                                         
                                         It goes as follows.
                                         
    
                                         A runaway trolley is about to run over and kill five people.
                                         
                                         Oh, this is a famous one, isn't it?
                                         
                                         You're standing on a footbridge.
                                         
                                         Yeah, this is just a trolley problem yeah well i always thought the trolley problem was
                                         
                                         was fairly easy well the way they phrase it is a runaway trolley is about to run over and kill
                                         
                                         five people and you're standing on a footbridge next to a large stranger a large stranger okay
                                         
                                         your body your body is too light to stop the train but if you
                                         
                                         push the stranger onto the tracks killing him you will save the five people would you push the man
                                         
    
                                         oh well that's different i think it's a slightly different arrangement of a similar problem in the
                                         
                                         one i know of it's just you have control of a lever and you can direct the trolley to one person
                                         
                                         or to a group of people yeah well you see in that one
                                         
                                         I don't feel as bad about directing it to the
                                         
                                         one person because some maniacs already gone
                                         
                                         and tied these people to a train track
                                         
                                         hmm
                                         
                                         so so much of it is already
                                         
    
                                         on other someone else's hands so you just sort of go
                                         
                                         well I just made my choice then
                                         
                                         whereas pushing a big fat bloke onto
                                         
                                         a off a bridge or whatever
                                         
                                         hmm that's that's a bit too active Whereas pushing a big fat bloke off a bridge or whatever,
                                         
                                         that's a bit too active.
                                         
                                         It's different.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
    
                                         It's active.
                                         
                                         It's more active, isn't it?
                                         
                                         So you wouldn't kill him.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Also, think about this poor guy.
                                         
                                         The last experience he has in life is a stranger deciding he's big enough to stop a trolley.
                                         
                                         His whole life has been leading up to the moment
                                         
    
                                         where a stranger goes,
                                         
                                         Oi, fatty!
                                         
                                         This will save you guys.
                                         
                                         Don't worry.
                                         
                                         This big tub of lard's going to stop this trolley.
                                         
                                         And that's his last experience in life.
                                         
                                         His last experience.
                                         
                                         He'll get to heaven and be like,
                                         
    
                                         Well, the last thing I remember is this weird guy
                                         
                                         sizing me up and muttering about trolleys and just screaming i fucking love science as he did it
                                         
                                         yeah that one's a that one's a common one we'd they're i'm thinking about it now i have heard
                                         
                                         that pushing version before actually but i think they are but yeah they are different they are
                                         
                                         different they are different i don't see how that's a psychopath test though yeah it's i guess it's a test of like um i suppose a psychopath
                                         
                                         would think which which which avenue is most likely to lead to personal reward for me yeah i
                                         
                                         don't see the psychopath caring if one person dies or five people die so i would have thought
                                         
                                         it'd be the same to them a psychopath probably wouldn't push the big fat guy because he'd
                                         
    
                                         probably think,
                                         
                                         well, then I'll just be in trouble anyway,
                                         
                                         whereas I can just stand here and watch this happen
                                         
                                         and nothing happens to me.
                                         
                                         So that's fine.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         I think to make...
                                         
                                         I also find the trolley problem easy
                                         
    
                                         in that you just...
                                         
                                         you would direct it to the one person over the five.
                                         
                                         I think they should weight it.
                                         
                                         So the trolley on one track,
                                         
                                         it kills five people.
                                         
                                         Or on the other track, it kills one person
                                         
                                         with a bank balance of five people.
                                         
                                         Then what do you choose?
                                         
    
                                         Then who do you kill?
                                         
                                         That would be difficult.
                                         
                                         That would be difficult.
                                         
                                         What about it kills five people or you divert it
                                         
                                         and it kills one person, but you know them
                                         
                                         and it's very awkward
                                         
                                         i mean that that does change things doesn't it if you know the one person that really does
                                         
                                         yeah because then you go like well i i already know steven so sorry guys
                                         
    
                                         or do you go i already know steven i'd like to explore five potential new friendships
                                         
                                         i already know steven but i'm about to make five new best friends for life
                                         
                                         five new friends with let's face it who are going to owe me for a long time
                                         
                                         they're gonna owe me a pretty big i think you'll find you're like shouting over to the
                                         
                                         five guys on the train tracks
                                         
                                         do you guys like
                                         
                                         do you play hockey
                                         
                                         do you
                                         
    
                                         okay that's one one but Stephen does
                                         
                                         that one that's one one
                                         
                                         what do you guys think of the latest Kendrick Lamar
                                         
                                         do you like it
                                         
                                         what do you think it's over1. What do you guys think of the latest Kendrick Lamar? Do you like it?
                                         
                                         What do you think? It's overreaching.
                                         
                                         Are you guys free in the day?
                                         
                                         Like a Thursday, say, weekly?
                                         
    
                                         And they're all frantically nodding
                                         
                                         and you go, I've just
                                         
                                         realized I've given you a big incentive
                                         
                                         to lie. Hold on, I need to think of questions where you given you a big incentive to lie. Hold on.
                                         
                                         I need to think of questions where you don't know what answer I want.
                                         
                                         Hang on.
                                         
                                         And then they go through them.
                                         
                                         And then you're just like, well, Stephen, looks like you win by default, I guess.
                                         
    
                                         But you still owe me, boy.
                                         
                                         Any other psycho riddles?
                                         
                                         There just seem to be the two on here.
                                         
                                         And there's also
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
                                         There's a version of
                                         
                                         That first riddle about the funeral
                                         
                                         Has been thoroughly debunked
                                         
    
                                         Several times before
                                         
                                         Well thanks a lot, cheers, thanks for that
                                         
                                         Thanks for putting it on
                                         
                                         Thoroughly debunked
                                         
                                         And it's not entirely clear where it came from.
                                         
                                         A psycho?
                                         
                                         Oh, gosh, it's on Snopes.
                                         
                                         Does a one-question test reveal psychopaths?
                                         
    
                                         I mean, no.
                                         
                                         It'd be a very, very short version of Silence of the Lambs, wouldn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Hello, Clarice. Show Um, yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Hello, Clarice.
                                         
                                         Show, Dr. Lecter.
                                         
                                         A woman goes to her mother's funeral.
                                         
                                         It's her own mother's funeral.
                                         
    
                                         And she, uh, yes.
                                         
                                         Yes, go on. What sort of catering
                                         
                                         is there?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Open or closed casket, Clarice?
                                         
                                         It doesn't matter, Dr. Lecter.
                                         
                                         It matters to me, Clarice.
                                         
                                         It matters to me.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, just...
                                         
                                         Well, it's so he can meet that...
                                         
                                         She can meet that man again, isn't it?
                                         
                                         Thank you, Dr. Lecter. That will be all.
                                         
                                         Do-do-do-do do do do do this the credits well as she tries to survey him and as anthony hopkins says in the film you think you
                                         
                                         can dissect my mind with these blunt little tools does anthony hopkins say that's his
                                         
                                         yeah that accent out of out of character yeah he does an offensive impression of her accent.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, fun.
                                         
    
                                         Blond little tools.
                                         
                                         Which you would be pretty disappointed
                                         
                                         if the FBI came to question you
                                         
                                         and they had a fucking folder labeled riddles.
                                         
                                         You'd be like, really?
                                         
                                         Is this what my tax dollars have gone towards?
                                         
                                         A riddle club?
                                         
                                         I need to watch the other Hannibals.
                                         
    
                                         I've only seen Silence of the Lambs.
                                         
                                         They're good, man. I like them.
                                         
                                         I like them a lot. I love Popkins.
                                         
                                         I like his creepy little eyes.
                                         
                                         You like Panthony Popkins?
                                         
                                         I love Grampony Popkins
                                         
                                         so much.
                                         
                                         He's very good.
                                         
    
                                         He's great. He's one of my favourite Welshmen.
                                         
                                         Oh, by far.
                                         
                                         By a long...
                                         
                                         By a rare bit.
                                         
                                         Oh, very nice.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Very, very nice.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
    
                                         Dr. Lecter, I was just hoping to ask you a few questions.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         It is I who will ask the questions of you, Clarice.
                                         
                                         Mother and father have I none, but my mother's mother is my son.
                                         
                                         What am I?
                                         
                                         Please, Dr. Lecter, all I want is to be pointed in the right direction.
                                         
                                         Maybe a clue as to Buffalo Bill's...
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         Answer my questions first, Clarice.
                                         
                                         Quid pro quo.
                                         
                                         My dog has no nose.
                                         
                                         So how can he smell?
                                         
                                         Hmm.
                                         
                                         Return to Marcus Aurelius.
                                         
                                         First principles.
                                         
                                         Ask of each and everything what is it of us.
                                         
    
                                         Did you mean to say how does he smell?
                                         
                                         I... Yes. Yes. Yes.
                                         
                                         How does he smell, Clarice?
                                         
                                         How does he smell? Does he smell like the lambs, Clarice?
                                         
                                         Does he smell... Is the answer that he smells terrible?
                                         
                                         Yes. Very good, Clarice.
                                         
                                         Quite a smart one, aren't you?
                                         
                                         I can see why Jack sent you to the...
                                         
    
                                         Okay, Dr. Electris, if that was just the whole point of this meeting, I'm just going to go.
                                         
                                         No, wait! A surgeon...
                                         
                                         Oh, all I have are my riddles.
                                         
                                         Well, Shell, we read out some of the correspondence from these goddamn psychos who listen oh yeah yeah
                                         
                                         come on to your your boyfriend finding funeral yes um okay let god i still have some of that
                                         
                                         lime scale in my mouth it was an awful experience just there. Crunchy coffee. Oh, I hate crunchy coffee. It's the worst.
                                         
                                         It's really hideous stuff.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's awful.
                                         
    
                                         To anyone who doesn't live in the south of England,
                                         
                                         well done on having, you know, liquid water.
                                         
                                         Liquid water.
                                         
                                         It's a real privilege.
                                         
                                         It's a real privilege.
                                         
                                         A real privilege.
                                         
                                         I'm just trying to make sure
                                         
                                         that I have the right
                                         
    
                                         emails that I've got
                                         
                                         it correct I don't want to
                                         
                                         disappoint you yes we did the
                                         
                                         Christian stuff
                                         
                                         yes here we go okay so
                                         
                                         Emily gets in touch
                                         
                                         Emily
                                         
                                         is she Smemily Sm Is she Smemily?
                                         
    
                                         Smemily?
                                         
                                         Smemily Emily
                                         
                                         Smemily Emily
                                         
                                         Smemily Emily
                                         
                                         Smemily Emily
                                         
                                         Yep
                                         
                                         She says
                                         
                                         Dear Peeves and Pouster
                                         
    
                                         That's very good
                                         
                                         That's good
                                         
                                         That's good
                                         
                                         Have you read the
                                         
                                         Jeeves and Worcester books?
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         I need to read Woodhouse really
                                         
                                         I've not really read Woodhouse
                                         
    
                                         I think you'd like it I think I'd likehouse, really. I've not really read Woodhouse.
                                         
                                         I think you'd like it.
                                         
                                         I think I'd like it.
                                         
                                         The bits I have read are really funny,
                                         
                                         and they still hold up.
                                         
                                         They're funny now.
                                         
                                         They really do.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         They really do.
                                         
                                         And it's funny to think that he was so popular in the 30s,
                                         
                                         and he was old-fashioned then.
                                         
                                         Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Because it's from the Edwardian era,
                                         
                                         all the social life he describes.
                                         
                                         It's all from 1906, basically.
                                         
                                         He's just this mad, old, funny guy dear peeves and puster i hope you're both well a friend recommended bud pod
                                         
    
                                         last year thank you to the friend please pass that on to fill the void left when i completed
                                         
                                         the off menu back catalog ah good boys good boys replace boys with other good boys that's right goodbye eddie baby
                                         
                                         and jim joms hello peeves and pooster
                                         
                                         I count myself a lifelong
                                         
                                         fan of food but it was not until I discovered
                                         
                                         your plopulent transmissions that I acknowledged
                                         
                                         the many pleasures of
                                         
                                         not only its ingestion but its
                                         
    
                                         extrusion
                                         
                                         between us and off menu we cover the entire food journey.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         The human experience.
                                         
                                         We're the bumhole of off menu.
                                         
                                         Off menu is the mouth and we're the anus.
                                         
                                         We're not seen as much, but we're vital.
                                         
                                         Also, Emily, I'm quite harrowed by the fact that you said ingestion and
                                         
    
                                         extrusion as opposed to excretion because extrusion is what you do to a piece of metal to turn it into
                                         
                                         a wire and i don't like the idea that there's that is like there's an there's an infinite lump
                                         
                                         of poo in me that's just being extruded out of my bum in the shape of like a girder, in like an I-beam shape.
                                         
                                         And it's like really red and hot and still like bendable as it comes out.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And like the toilet water just like steams up on contact.
                                         
                                         Like when someone's making a sword in a film. So she says, thanks to you both for that.
                                         
                                         I have a story to share about a public display of chundering.
                                         
    
                                         Wonderful.
                                         
                                         The year was 2014.
                                         
                                         The city, New York.
                                         
                                         Ooh.
                                         
                                         Bright lights, big city.
                                         
                                         Bright lights, big city.
                                         
                                         You want to sip my soul?
                                         
                                         I was living there at the time
                                         
    
                                         and was excited to experience my first American Halloween.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, nice.
                                         
                                         Wow, imagine.
                                         
                                         All the more so as a good friend from home was arriving that night
                                         
                                         to spend a week on the sofa of the three-bedroom apartment
                                         
                                         I shared with four other girls.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Three-bedroom apartment, four girls.
                                         
    
                                         So then there'll be five girls temporarily,
                                         
                                         but normally there are four in the three bedroom apartment,
                                         
                                         so two of them are a couple.
                                         
                                         Or bunk beds.
                                         
                                         Bunk bed girls, of course.
                                         
                                         I've seen those films.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         So, our haunt for the night.
                                         
    
                                         Very good
                                         
                                         Nice, lovely stuff
                                         
                                         She has a way with words
                                         
                                         Does us, Memoli
                                         
                                         Our haunt for the night was a bar called
                                         
                                         Trailer Park
                                         
                                         Which brimmed with Americana
                                         
                                         All year round
                                         
    
                                         And teamed with witches that night
                                         
                                         Very cool
                                         
                                         My friend and I were dressed as the Brooklyn Bridge.
                                         
                                         I was Brooklyn, she was downtown Manhattan,
                                         
                                         and we had choreographed a stately bridge-like pose.
                                         
                                         Lovely.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         And acquired some little American flags to complete the scene.
                                         
    
                                         It wasn't a good costume,
                                         
                                         but emboldened by red wine and bourbon pickleback shots,
                                         
                                         I saw that we demonstrated it to any who asked,
                                         
                                         and many who didn't.
                                         
                                         This is good stuff.
                                         
                                         I like this vibe I'm imagining.
                                         
                                         Oh, thunder in my part of London.
                                         
                                         Very spooky.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I haven't heard it here.
                                         
                                         For the Halloween story.
                                         
                                         Oh, perfect.
                                         
                                         Lovely.
                                         
                                         How atmospheric.
                                         
                                         So, Emily continues.
                                         
                                         Gentlemen, my actions later that night and the logic that underpinned them
                                         
    
                                         were not immune to this combination of liquids.
                                         
                                         And with eight years of perspective, I still can't identify the lowest point.
                                         
                                         So this is a list of the possible low points, Phil, from the booze.
                                         
                                         Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                         Was it when, banished from Trailer Park
                                         
                                         and chivvied to the station, I painted the
                                         
                                         subway steps puce with my retchings?
                                         
                                         Ha ha, puce. Puce is
                                         
    
                                         a good word. I love puce.
                                         
                                         Puce with my retchings.
                                         
                                         She talks like a witch.
                                         
                                         What is the meaning of puce?
                                         
                                         How do you spell puce? P-U-C-E?
                                         
                                         P-U-C-E, yes. Red.
                                         
                                         Crimson.
                                         
                                         Ah, lovely.
                                         
    
                                         A deep red.
                                         
                                         A dark red, a purple brown color.
                                         
                                         Yes, very good.
                                         
                                         Puce.
                                         
                                         Puce with my retchings.
                                         
                                         What if I...
                                         
                                         I'm going to say that like a witch.
                                         
                                         I painted the subway steps puce with my retchings.
                                         
    
                                         And your little dog too.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's very good.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         So was it then or was it minutes later in the train carriage
                                         
                                         when I unzipped my handbag, a fake Marc Jacobs bought recently
                                         
                                         on New York's famous Canal Street,
                                         
                                         and besieged all the essential possessions therein with my spew?
                                         
                                         Oh, my Lord.
                                         
    
                                         Spew.
                                         
                                         Besieged.
                                         
                                         Ah.
                                         
                                         Ah. Sing to me
                                         
                                         You're like the phantom of the opera
                                         
                                         And she's the new soprano
                                         
                                         Sing to me
                                         
                                         Sing to me
                                         
    
                                         And she's going
                                         
                                         I threw up in my handbag
                                         
                                         And I'm like
                                         
                                         Yes
                                         
                                         I'm going crazy
                                         
                                         You vomit in your bag
                                         
                                         Yes sing
                                         
                                         I turned the steps red
                                         
    
                                         Yes
                                         
                                         I love this
                                         
                                         I'm going mental on an organ
                                         
                                         Covered in candles.
                                         
                                         The vomit and the sob away is here.
                                         
                                         You're like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
                                         
                                         Along the steps.
                                         
                                         Yes, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. yes so there are more steps was it when i insisted that the night air would cure me that we must disembark the subway early only to find the street lights so sickeningly bright that i shut my eyes
                                         
    
                                         the whole way home yeah i shut my eyes i shut my eyes the whole way home leaving my poor friend to navigate
                                         
                                         chunder bag in tow oh god god this is this is where male and female friendships um divide
                                         
                                         because like can you a guy would never look after a friend like this they'd be like alright good luck here's your puke bag
                                         
                                         yeah well not without
                                         
                                         making fun of them during at least
                                         
                                         was it when my
                                         
                                         roommate a girl I then hardly knew
                                         
                                         awoke in the wee hours to my unhallowed
                                         
    
                                         unwashed stench in the adjacent
                                         
                                         bed that's the mystery solved
                                         
                                         wait what
                                         
                                         double bedroom
                                         
                                         they're roommates they're like roommates that's very
                                         
                                         american isn't it yeah my college roommate can you imagine going through your entire university
                                         
                                         is with someone else in your room in my room like a like a fucking ghost i mean it would be
                                         
                                         mad and and you know don't worry they only end up more in debt than we do.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, it's insane. Yeah, I mean, that's insane.
                                         
                                         Insane.
                                         
                                         You don't even get your own room.
                                         
                                         So was it then, or was it the next morning when I found the contents of my handbag cleanly laid out next to me,
                                         
                                         rinsed by my dear friend on the first night of her holiday?
                                         
                                         Goodness me, what a pal.
                                         
                                         Gosh.
                                         
                                         What a friend.
                                         
    
                                         Quite the pal.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         Gosh What a friend
                                         
                                         Quite the pal
                                         
                                         Wow
                                         
                                         It's hard to say
                                         
                                         But my immediate punishment
                                         
                                         Was sitting through
                                         
    
                                         And paying fifty dollars for
                                         
                                         A bottomless brunch the next morning
                                         
                                         At which I only managed to force down
                                         
                                         A few mugs of hot water
                                         
                                         Hard to say indeed
                                         
                                         And hard to choose the better friend
                                         
                                         The other half of my Brooklyn Bridge
                                         
                                         Or the friend who introduced me to Bud Pod.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, sounds like you surround yourself with very high quality individuals.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well done.
                                         
                                         Lucky you.
                                         
                                         She says, I also wanted to let you know there's a restaurant in Soho in London
                                         
                                         called Humble Chicken, which serves all parts of a chicken.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I'm going to look this up right now.
                                         
                                         Humble Chicken.
                                         
                                         I've heard of this.
                                         
                                         My friend went there and he said it was fucking
                                         
                                         great. Humble chicken.
                                         
                                         Look at this. Oh, it's very well reviewed.
                                         
                                         It's right by Ronnie Scott.
                                         
                                         And she says one of their dishes
                                         
    
                                         contains an ingredient called koji. Try it sometime.
                                         
                                         Why not? Best, Emily.
                                         
                                         It looks Japanese-y.
                                         
                                         That would make sense.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and apparently it's all of it. The feet? The feet would be good. Oh yeah, so it's Japanese-y Which would make sense Yeah, and apparently it's all of it
                                         
                                         The feet?
                                         
                                         The feet would be good
                                         
                                         Oh yeah, so it's Japanese-y
                                         
    
                                         It's got yakitori and stuff
                                         
                                         Ooh la la
                                         
                                         Yes, yes, yes
                                         
                                         Yes!
                                         
                                         Now I'm becoming the Phantom of the Opera
                                         
                                         Yeah, a new way to eat chicken feet
                                         
                                         And you're
                                         
                                         Yeah, sing to me
                                         
    
                                         Chicken feet
                                         
                                         Yakitori
                                         
                                         Yes! Teriyaki sing to me chicken feet yakitori yes
                                         
                                         teriyaki
                                         
                                         giblets
                                         
                                         sing
                                         
                                         I like this as a way of responding to things
                                         
                                         I like the idea of
                                         
    
                                         you and me going to a restaurant
                                         
                                         and the waiter reading out the specials and I was going
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         oh god well
                                         
                                         we've run out of time
                                         
                                         but what a way we've run out of time
                                         
                                         what a trip it's been
                                         
                                         what a great way to run out of time absolutely
                                         
    
                                         thanks for listening thanks for being patrons
                                         
                                         And thanks for your wonderful correspondence
                                         
                                         Thank you for your correspondence
                                         
                                         We're going to get to all of you
                                         
                                         We hope you enjoy the way that we do get to you
                                         
                                         And enjoy the plaza
                                         
                                         Enjoy the plaza jazza
                                         
                                         Enjoy the plaza jazza weekend
                                         
    
                                         The jubileezy weekend
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         The jizzle Jizzle jizzle take it jubilee easy no that's good
                                         
                                         come on come on now come on now take it jubilee easy um yep have a good one all the best love
                                         
                                         you lots see you next time see you next time bye bye
                                         
