BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 176 - About their uncles, about their jobs
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                                         It's BudPod 176.
                                         
                                         176.
                                         
                                         Please take some pics of the Edinburgh Fringe for me, Pierre.
                                         
                                         Where you are.
                                         
                                         It is where I am.
                                         
                                         And by all accounts, you are tearing the town up.
                                         
                                         All I'm seeing is how great Pierre Nivelli's show is.
                                         
                                         Well, once you're up here phil you will
                                         
    
                                         discover that i'm the only one up here that's the secret um oh what a coup yeah i've killed
                                         
                                         everyone else and whenever you see pictures of a busy royal mile they're either from other years
                                         
                                         or if you look closely it's just me and i've done one of those pictures where you take it
                                         
                                         loads and loads of times and you are standing in different bits and dress differently.
                                         
                                         Right. So we actually, if we look at,
                                         
                                         so the BBC coverage of like Edinburgh festival at full, you know,
                                         
                                         back to full capacity since start pandemic.
                                         
                                         And we zoom in on the crowd. They're all like you in a wig,
                                         
    
                                         you as a baby's head in a pram.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You as a juggler.
                                         
                                         Fire-breathing.
                                         
                                         You as an astonished American tourist.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         That's good work.
                                         
                                         I remember that a friend and excellent comedian, Glenn Moore,
                                         
    
                                         pointing out that one of the most annoying things about The Fringe
                                         
                                         is that it's mostly like stand-up
                                         
                                         comedy and sketches right and plays like that's the majority of what it is and that's the most
                                         
                                         popular stuff like the cover of the fringe guide every year is like an insane like neon
                                         
                                         fucking like uh juggling freak with like nipple rings and like an insane face paint and like
                                         
                                         just going just screaming at you totally it really
                                         
                                         missells the fringe also any photograph of the fringe in a broadsheet newspaper is like a guy
                                         
                                         dressed as a jester on the royal mile juggling yes and you're like i never see that guy
                                         
    
                                         that's the guy people are trying to avoid that guy That guy's like a ghost that you only see
                                         
                                         when you go up as a journalist or something.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The coverage always wants to paint this picture of the Fringe
                                         
                                         as like everyone's a crazy circus goblin.
                                         
                                         But no, I mean, the most representative Fringe guide cover
                                         
                                         would just be a lone stand-up comedian holding a mic in front of a third full room.
                                         
                                         And he's just sweating because he's so hungover and the room's so hot.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, he's pouring.
                                         
                                         And like a couple of people are kind of enjoying it and the rest are kind of done.
                                         
                                         That would be a good and honest fringe guide cover. And he's pouring sweat because of how hot it is,
                                         
                                         but also the room is sort of visibly a brew dog.
                                         
                                         Right, right, right.
                                         
                                         He's visibly just a corner of a bar.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And they've separated it from the rest of the bar
                                         
    
                                         with literally a flimsy curtain.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And if you think we're exaggerating, listeners,
                                         
                                         that is a real thing in some venues that has happened to people who we know where they've just gone, well, a curtain shouldsy curtain. Yes, and if you think we're exaggerating, listeners, that is a real thing in some venues that has happened to
                                         
                                         people who we know, where they've just gone,
                                         
                                         well, a curtain should be enough.
                                         
                                         Well, I mean, you and I
                                         
                                         in our early days, Pierre, we
                                         
    
                                         ran and hosted a gig
                                         
                                         in the basement of
                                         
                                         an Italian restaurant that was literally
                                         
                                         adorned with Mussolini quotes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, there were some Mussolini quotes, and there was
                                         
                                         a lot of weird, like, ancient Roman paraphernalia.
                                         
                                         Not real, but sort of made of, I don't know,
                                         
                                         plaster.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, very strange,
                                         
                                         that place. It's still there.
                                         
                                         It's a nice restaurant, but
                                         
                                         weird to look in the basement and find...
                                         
                                         It is a nice restaurant.
                                         
                                         Good ice cream.
                                         
                                         Good ice cream.
                                         
                                         Bad Mussolini.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And, you know, the sad thing is,
                                         
                                         were it not for the Mussolini quotes,
                                         
                                         we would be naming said restaurant
                                         
                                         and perhaps driving some business towards them.
                                         
                                         But it's funny what a Mussolini quote will do
                                         
                                         for your marketing opportunity.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, hang on.
                                         
                                         My phone is deciding that what I wanted
                                         
                                         when I said, don't play this alarm again, what I meant, Phil, apparently, was play this alarm again in ten minutes.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they can be needy.
                                         
                                         I just think if I wanted a snooze button, I wouldn't set an alarm. Do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         Oh, no, no, no. I need a snooze button. I think you're speaking for a very small minority of people here
                                         
                                         who don't want a snooze button.
                                         
    
                                         Well, you're the snooziest boy in town.
                                         
                                         That's different.
                                         
                                         It's true, I'm very snoozy.
                                         
                                         If there weren't a snooze button on alarms,
                                         
                                         I would just never wake up.
                                         
                                         I often think that if I didn't set an alarm,
                                         
                                         I would never wake up, and that would be how I died.
                                         
                                         Do you think?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         People go, how did Phil die?
                                         
                                         Oh, he didn't set an alarm.
                                         
                                         Well, like
                                         
                                         they'd say, how did Phil die? And people
                                         
                                         would go, oh, he fell asleep and he never
                                         
                                         woke up. And they'd go, oh my god, that's terrible.
                                         
                                         What happened? And they'd go, no, no.
                                         
    
                                         He just
                                         
                                         didn't set an alarm. No, no, that's it. He just didn't set an alarm.
                                         
                                         It's just, you know,
                                         
                                         eventually
                                         
                                         you can only poke so many Doritos into a sleeping man's mouth
                                         
                                         i've recently been not able to wake up i've been so tired like i've been sleeping like
                                         
                                         eight hours or seven hours and i wake up like i'm so tired and i wonder i don't know what you
                                         
                                         think i've been wearing my because of the summer and the sun,
                                         
    
                                         I've been wearing like an eye mask to go to sleep.
                                         
                                         Oh, I should get one.
                                         
                                         And yeah, but I think it makes waking up harder
                                         
                                         because you're having to wake up suddenly from a very deep, dark sleep.
                                         
                                         Whereas if you don't have it, the sunlight slowly permeates your eyelids
                                         
                                         and you slowly wake up in the background.
                                         
                                         So even though it's summer, you're giving your eyes and brain, eye brain,
                                         
                                         you're giving your eye brain a sort of like a darkest winter sleep.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, that's right.
                                         
                                         And I've got earplugs in.
                                         
                                         So I'm basically in like a sensory deprivation tank.
                                         
                                         Oh, nice. Oh, nice.
                                         
                                         Oh, nice.
                                         
                                         I kind of, that's kind of dreamy, to be honest,
                                         
                                         because obviously Edinburgh here, very far north,
                                         
                                         very light, very early, very light, very early in the morning in summer.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, interesting.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         No, I have, yeah, I've got, I have a 50 pound eye mask.
                                         
                                         It's made of purest silk. Get. And it's absolutely. In a bin. I have a 50 pound eye mask, Pierre. What?
                                         
                                         It's made of purest silk.
                                         
                                         Get in a bin.
                                         
                                         It's one of my most prized possessions is my eye mask.
                                         
                                         Okay, hang on.
                                         
    
                                         First of all, an expensive eye mask.
                                         
                                         I mean by price, not by weight.
                                         
                                         Yeah, no, no, yeah.
                                         
                                         And then it's like a weighted blanket,
                                         
                                         but just for your eyes.
                                         
                                         It keeps your head pinned to the bed.
                                         
                                         It just crushes,
                                         
                                         crushes your eyes like it's...
                                         
    
                                         Just, I can't sleep
                                         
                                         without my head
                                         
                                         being pinned to the bed.
                                         
                                         Like a wrestler's,
                                         
                                         a wrestler called Sleep
                                         
                                         is fighting me all night.
                                         
                                         I would like,
                                         
                                         I would like,
                                         
    
                                         okay,
                                         
                                         I would like that to be a pro wrestler called Sleep
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Who sits on your face like Rikishi
                                         
                                         Oh yeah
                                         
                                         Oh yeah
                                         
                                         I always found that gross as a kid
                                         
                                         Yeah pretty astonishing
                                         
    
                                         That Rikishi would just stick a guy's head
                                         
                                         In his enormous ass crack. Still the
                                         
                                         largest I've seen to this day. Yeah,
                                         
                                         I wonder how they came up with that, where they were like
                                         
                                         do you think he felt hard done by? Where they
                                         
                                         were like, well, what's the Rock's
                                         
                                         thing? And they go, well, the Rock has a sexy
                                         
                                         eyebrow raise. You get a huge ass
                                         
    
                                         fart roll.
                                         
                                         You can do a big... The Rock and Rikishi
                                         
                                         are related. Did you know that? What?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                         There's quite a large Samoan-Polynesian contingency
                                         
                                         In American professional wrestling
                                         
                                         And they're all connected by a large family
                                         
                                         And so The Rock's dad was a wrestler
                                         
    
                                         And I think Rikishi's his cousin
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         Why isn't Rikishi in some bad films then?
                                         
                                         Why isn't Rikishi in some bad films then?
                                         
                                         He just doesn't have the attitude I guess He couldn't smell what the rock was cooking
                                         
                                         He tried
                                         
                                         All he could smell was his own ass
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
    
                                         His ass smell was too overpowering
                                         
                                         To smell the rock's fine cooking
                                         
                                         I'd be annoyed if my thing was
                                         
                                         Having a horrible
                                         
                                         ass and everyone else got like a sexy flex and like being terrifying and cool
                                         
                                         i'd be pretty bummed out about that um even as a kid i remember almost putting my hands on my
                                         
                                         hips and watching that and being like like at like nine being like, come on, wrestling. This is just undignified.
                                         
                                         Okay, so hang on.
                                         
    
                                         This eye mask, right?
                                         
                                         First of all, a very expensive eye mask
                                         
                                         is such a villain thing to own.
                                         
                                         Yeah, there's something villainous about paying a lot
                                         
                                         to remove a sense. Yeah a lot To remove a sense
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Or to remove a stimulus
                                         
                                         Yeah and there's something
                                         
    
                                         I want to see less of this world
                                         
                                         And I will pay top dollar to do it
                                         
                                         Haven't you ever wanted to be at peace
                                         
                                         There's something villainous about it Because there's something decadent about it and
                                         
                                         a lot of villains are also just like ciphers for decadence aren't they just sort of
                                         
                                         oh right right james bond's enemy likes little you know little chocolates whereas james bond likes a
                                         
                                         just neat gin ha isn't that good um so it's quite villainy thing you've done there and uh what what am i
                                         
                                         getting bang for my buck wise that i'm not getting from say a one pound i'm asked that is easily
                                         
    
                                         available um i'm glad you asked the comfort of the silk um the uh the strength of the band,
                                         
                                         the cheap ones, the band goes after a while,
                                         
                                         the elastic goes.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         And the opaqueness of the block.
                                         
                                         I mean, there's no sunlight getting through that thing.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So would you say it's actually worth it?
                                         
    
                                         Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         It's one of my prized possessions.
                                         
                                         I love it.
                                         
                                         I love it.
                                         
                                         I cannot survive without it.
                                         
                                         I pack it in my bag all the time.
                                         
                                         Everywhere I go, I need it.
                                         
                                         I need it!
                                         
    
                                         I picture you putting it on like Squidward.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I do feel a lot like Squidward all the time with when it regards to noise i'm always
                                         
                                         looking out my window angrily yes i did it just today because there's someone drilling i did it
                                         
                                         last night because someone was shouting i will just i'll just poke my head out the window angrily
                                         
                                         as if someone can see me as if the universe will see how annoyed i am and correct itself
                                         
                                         just a sort of a big frown.
                                         
                                         Honestly,
                                         
                                         that is what I did.
                                         
    
                                         That is so funny. The idea of you going, lifting up your
                                         
                                         eye mask angrily, going, what is that noise?
                                         
                                         I hate noise so much.
                                         
                                         I hate it.
                                         
                                         I hate it.
                                         
                                         You really do hate noise
                                         
                                         What was the shouting last night?
                                         
                                         Noise pollution
                                         
    
                                         I don't know, just some guy going
                                         
                                         And it was along with
                                         
                                         The clattering of glass
                                         
                                         As if throwing milk bottles
                                         
                                         Into a recycling bin
                                         
                                         So I don't know if he was
                                         
                                         Annoyed about having to put out his recycling
                                         
                                         or someone else was throwing
                                         
    
                                         away his milk bottle collection and
                                         
                                         he was annoyed about that. So it was going
                                         
                                         cling cling cling cling
                                         
                                         cling cling cling
                                         
                                         It was confusing. I didn't
                                         
                                         know what was going on. Oh my god.
                                         
                                         What is it about? Maybe it's a climate change
                                         
                                         denial. Watching someone recycle.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah. Livid.
                                         
                                         Livid. What is it about? Maybe it's a climate change denial, watching someone recycle. Yeah, livid. Livid.
                                         
                                         What is it about cities and towns that means that every now and then there is just like a...
                                         
                                         It's quite frightening if you really think about it,
                                         
                                         that somewhere in the night there's just an adult man who, for reasons you can't tell,
                                         
                                         because you can't see him, is just going...
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, it happened a lot in America You were never not watching a man scream at nothing
                                         
    
                                         In America
                                         
                                         And last night there was quite a few
                                         
                                         On the way back from King's Cross
                                         
                                         Shout out to any pod buds
                                         
                                         Who came to see my work in progress
                                         
                                         At 2 North Down
                                         
                                         There was a fire
                                         
                                         At King's Cross Station
                                         
    
                                         Last night We tried to get back There was a fire at King's Cross Station, Pierre
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         Last night
                                         
                                         Yeah, we tried to get back
                                         
                                         And there was an alarm going off at King's Cross Station
                                         
                                         People coming out and they're closing their gates
                                         
                                         And there was like one of the TFL staff
                                         
                                         A lady was shouting at a guy for still being in the station
                                         
    
                                         She was like, get out!
                                         
                                         Get out!
                                         
                                         Like really dramatic
                                         
                                         Oh my god
                                         
                                         And the guy just sort of loosely walked out
                                         
                                         and then she sort of slowly closed the gate
                                         
                                         so it wasn't quite necessary.
                                         
                                         But the engine, the motor room of the lift
                                         
    
                                         had caught fire.
                                         
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         Hmm.
                                         
                                         The king was cross indeed.
                                         
                                         The flaming lift?
                                         
                                         The lift of flame. That's very lift? The lift of flame.
                                         
                                         That's very strange.
                                         
                                         The lift of fire.
                                         
    
                                         The devil's lift.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so then everyone had to wait for buses
                                         
                                         and there was just some guy walking around going,
                                         
                                         I told him not to.
                                         
                                         And then he so calmly got on the bus
                                         
                                         and then blooped his card.
                                         
                                         It's like, how?
                                         
                                         How is that the same guy?
                                         
    
                                         This is what I'm always...
                                         
                                         This is what I'm always this is what
                                         
                                         i'm always amazed with like especially i said this before like crazy like street preachers and people
                                         
                                         in the street like i can't picture them getting up that morning putting on their clothes but they do
                                         
                                         yeah you imagine that as they're putting on their socks they're still just going
                                         
                                         yeah but this guy was shouting or nothing but he had also gone to grips with contactless. You know, it's quite...
                                         
                                         It is strange.
                                         
                                         You know, it's peculiar, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         It is strange.
                                         
                                         It's like if you see someone who you've just seen going absolutely apeshit on a roundabout just in Pret.
                                         
                                         It's sort of like having difficulty deciding between the crayfish sandwich and the chicken and bacon.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Really sort of sizing up the baguettes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Really strange.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's so weird.
                                         
    
                                         Also, I've got a couple more hours of screaming to do.
                                         
                                         Needs a bit of energy.
                                         
                                         I've got a bit of... I don't scream as well on a lot of dairy.
                                         
                                         Shout out to the PodBuds who've been coming to my shows in Edinburgh, by the way.
                                         
                                         You guys are absolute diamonds.
                                         
                                         I got some nice Kojis on the way out.
                                         
                                         Excellent, excellent.
                                         
                                         I had a Koji at a little music festival
                                         
    
                                         On Sunday
                                         
                                         Oh, nice
                                         
                                         I was dancing along to Peggy Goo
                                         
                                         The very cool
                                         
                                         Korean lady DJ
                                         
                                         In Finsbury Park
                                         
                                         And a guy came up while I was dancing away
                                         
                                         and put his hand on his shoulder and said,
                                         
    
                                         Koji.
                                         
                                         Which was nice.
                                         
                                         So the Podbuds are cool.
                                         
                                         Podbuds are cool.
                                         
                                         Podbuds are dancing to Peggy Goo.
                                         
                                         Yeah, man.
                                         
                                         Podbuds are always cool.
                                         
                                         Some good Kojis.
                                         
    
                                         And I keep thinking to myself,
                                         
                                         because I introduce myself on stage right and i always
                                         
                                         forget to say koji when i'm up on the stage because i'm just thinking about the show too much
                                         
                                         um yeah but when i'm backstage and behind the little curtain i'm about to introduce myself
                                         
                                         and come on at the end of every show when bud pods come past me and say oh koji thank you or
                                         
                                         whatever and i go thanks yeah okay thank you koji. And I go, thanks. Yeah. Okay. Thank you,
                                         
                                         Koji.
                                         
                                         Um,
                                         
    
                                         I always think,
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
                                         I should really do like a shout out at the start or whatever,
                                         
                                         or maybe,
                                         
                                         and I always think,
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
                                         but when I'm,
                                         
                                         when I'm behind the curtain,
                                         
    
                                         I could do it.
                                         
                                         But Phil,
                                         
                                         here's my nightmare scenario,
                                         
                                         right?
                                         
                                         I've got six,
                                         
                                         seven,
                                         
                                         eight days in a row of bud pods coming to the show and saying Koji
                                         
                                         afterwards.
                                         
    
                                         I've built up a lot of confidence that bud pods are coming to the show and saying Koji afterwards. I've built up a lot of confidence that Bud Pods are coming to the show and they should...
                                         
                                         Pod Buds.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Pod Buds are coming to the show.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The terminology is very important.
                                         
                                         And they should be addressed, right?
                                         
                                         So I think, okay, this keeps happening.
                                         
    
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         And then my nightmares, I'm backstage and it's like, oh, people of the monkey barrel.
                                         
                                         Koji. And then there nightmares, I'm backstage and it's like, oh, people of the monkey barrel, Koji.
                                         
                                         And then there's nothing.
                                         
                                         I personally don't think you should.
                                         
                                         I don't think you should do it.
                                         
                                         I don't think you should.
                                         
                                         I think, well, for one, it's alienating to the people who aren't pod buds.
                                         
    
                                         Forgive them their sins.
                                         
                                         And second, I think it's nice for people to come up at the end and give you a little
                                         
                                         i think it's nice that the kojis are whispered i think it should be like a secret illuminati sign
                                         
                                         i do quite i do quite like that it is it is like a creepy cult of sexy boys and girls or whatever
                                         
                                         it was that we said naughty little boys and naughty little girls. That's right. Dirty.
                                         
                                         Dirty little boys and dirty little girls.
                                         
                                         That's right.
                                         
                                         But yeah, I was laughing to myself
                                         
    
                                         at how embarrassed I'd be
                                         
                                         if I was like smugly from behind a curtain.
                                         
                                         Oh, Koji.
                                         
                                         And then just like deadly silence.
                                         
                                         I have to go,
                                         
                                         never mind, please,
                                         
                                         back to the stage.
                                         
                                         Or you just hear sort of very exaggerated mumbling.
                                         
    
                                         But what?
                                         
                                         I didn't understand.
                                         
                                         What does he mean by Koji?
                                         
                                         I'm not going to enjoy this now
                                         
                                         How strange
                                         
                                         I've lost faith in this show
                                         
                                         Already
                                         
                                         Yeah, you just
                                         
    
                                         It's like a
                                         
                                         Sound effect called
                                         
                                         Angry Townsfolk
                                         
                                         I'm not going to like this show
                                         
                                         I'm going to fold my arms
                                         
                                         You just wait and see
                                         
                                         I'm backstage going Oh God this show. I'm going to fold my arms. You just wait and see. I'm backstage going, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God.
                                         
                                         I mean, John Robbins of John Robbins and Alice James podcast fame.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         If someone shouts a podcast thing during a show, he'll literally go, not here.
                                         
                                         Which I think is maybe too far the other way.
                                         
                                         Does he do that?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         He'll angrily go, not here.
                                         
                                         Like that.
                                         
                                         That is so funny.
                                         
    
                                         Like the podcast is someone he's having an affair with.
                                         
                                         That's so funny darling please not here not
                                         
                                         where I work
                                         
                                         not in front of
                                         
                                         the class
                                         
                                         my wife is here
                                         
                                         my wife is here not here
                                         
                                         podcast
                                         
    
                                         my life stand up career
                                         
                                         is here not here um that is extremely extremely funny i would if i
                                         
                                         was a um a um oh god what are they um shit what are they called the fans of ellison john
                                         
                                         it's not aficionado but it's something like that The podcast devotee
                                         
                                         Devotee, if I was a devotee
                                         
                                         I wouldn't even be annoyed about that, that's such a funny
                                         
                                         Thing to have said to you
                                         
                                         Yeah yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                         It's canon isn't it
                                         
                                         It's canon yeah, not here, that's very good
                                         
                                         I just say
                                         
                                         Koji and nod
                                         
                                         Because it's a pay what you want show and there's an option To sort of tip me on the way out, I do feel a bit like A Because it's a pay-what-you-want show
                                         
                                         And there's an option to tip me on the way out
                                         
                                         I do feel a bit like a weird vicar
                                         
                                         Grubby vicar
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, but it's going super well, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                         This vicar has little call to be grumpy
                                         
                                         This vicar's got a very satisfied parish
                                         
                                         All I'm seeing on Twitter is other comedians praising your show,
                                         
                                         which is, and your comedians are such,
                                         
                                         we're all such egotistical pricks that,
                                         
                                         like, do you have any idea how good a show has to be
                                         
    
                                         for a comedian to come out and say another comedian's show was good?
                                         
                                         It needs to be good.
                                         
                                         So I'm, you know,
                                         
                                         your show must be sensational.
                                         
                                         Oh, thanks, man.
                                         
                                         I hope so.
                                         
                                         I hope so, yeah.
                                         
                                         I get up and I do my dance.
                                         
    
                                         It's very sweaty.
                                         
                                         I'm hearing the word masterclass a lot.
                                         
                                         That's the word I'm hearing.
                                         
                                         Like I'm a lint chocolatier.
                                         
                                         Or like you've done one of those rather creepy online masterclasses
                                         
                                         where they've got someone where you go,
                                         
                                         how did they get Robert De Niro?
                                         
                                         You know, yeah, it's like one of those.
                                         
    
                                         Hi, I'm Pierre Novelli,
                                         
                                         and in my masterclass you'll learn how to
                                         
                                         deal with her hen party um they went to say and not to say koji on stage do you know how they
                                         
                                         film those the master classes yeah well apparently because like obviously the thing that is seems
                                         
                                         insane is they sort of go you look at it and you go okay they got like
                                         
                                         robert de niro like you say or you know francis ford coppola or whatever and you go what what
                                         
                                         and you think okay i can understand that like look any celebrity is available for a price right
                                         
                                         basically fine fine fine fine however um very few celebrities are willing or necessarily able for a price to put together, I mean, 10 hours of lectures.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, yes, yes.
                                         
                                         A lesson plan.
                                         
                                         A lesson plan.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Robert De Niro.
                                         
                                         Beyonce putting together a lesson plan.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Robert De Niro handing out photocopied bits of paper.
                                         
    
                                         Sorry, it's smudgy.
                                         
                                         Using one of those overhead projectors
                                         
                                         with the big bright light
                                         
                                         and having to address
                                         
                                         the mirror at the top. Can you see that?
                                         
                                         Can you see that? He would have a
                                         
                                         good squinty face.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Can you see that?
                                         
                                         Can you imagine how squinty he'd get if the
                                         
                                         light got in his face like
                                         
                                         how much left is there to squint oh his face would just become like like a sort of um um
                                         
                                         what like a one belly crease yeah it would just start collapsing in on it just one line just
                                         
                                         yeah like a guillermo del too monster. Yeah, called The Squint.
                                         
                                         El Skinte.
                                         
                                         El Skinto.
                                         
    
                                         Un accidente.
                                         
                                         That's my only movie impression I can do.
                                         
                                         What's that?
                                         
                                         It's Pan.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Pan from Pan's Labyrinth going,
                                         
                                         Un accidente.
                                         
                                         Un accidente.
                                         
    
                                         That's good.
                                         
                                         Un accident.
                                         
                                         That's nice.
                                         
                                         But apparently what they do is they just ask them the really well-structured questions
                                         
                                         and edit it really well.
                                         
                                         Right, right, right.
                                         
                                         So they have the lesson plan, effectively.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so they just...
                                         
    
                                         And they just sort of coax.
                                         
                                         They just say, okay,
                                         
                                         we're just going to talk to you for ages
                                         
                                         and film all of it,
                                         
                                         and you just have to answer
                                         
                                         in the form of a question.
                                         
                                         Right, okay, okay, okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah, very smart.
                                         
    
                                         I think that's what I was told by someone,
                                         
                                         that that's what they do for... I'm sure, look, I'm sure, like... Oh, God, okay. Yeah, very smart. I think that's what I was told by someone, that that's what they do for...
                                         
                                         Look, I'm sure like...
                                         
                                         Oh, God, what's his name?
                                         
                                         He's the very alternative director.
                                         
                                         His hair is a quiff.
                                         
                                         His hair is a quiff?
                                         
                                         Yeah, he did Twin Peaks.
                                         
    
                                         Oh.
                                         
                                         You know the guy, I mean.
                                         
                                         David Lynch.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm sure David Lynch put together a hell of a plan.
                                         
                                         I'm sure he did a damn fine plan.
                                         
                                         I'm sure he did it all himself.
                                         
                                         But if I was a lazy celebrity,
                                         
    
                                         I would just be like, yeah, just fucking talk to me.
                                         
                                         You figure it out.
                                         
                                         You cut it.
                                         
                                         Show me it before you put it out.
                                         
                                         There's your master class.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah. you figure it out you cut it show me it before you put it out there's your master class yeah yeah um but yes thank you phil that is very nice of you to mention my lovely compliments which you
                                         
                                         know as you know it is difficult to uh go on about them too much unless you are destined for success
                                         
                                         in entertainment by virtue of being an absolute sociopath yes yes yes there
                                         
    
                                         is nothing especially in the uk yeah you cannot get away with you have to hope other people
                                         
                                         compliment you and point out your success for you because you can't do it or you cannot do it
                                         
                                         yourself yes you have to undermine it if you even try it's a bit like it feels like you're trying to boast in feudal japan yeah or like you're a genie like you're very powerful
                                         
                                         but only someone else can set you free like you have to wait for someone else to say the magic
                                         
                                         word yeah so yeah someone patted me on the shoulder another comedian and said great show man and i went oh and like my my
                                         
                                         shackle started glowing and like flying off and i spun into the air like that you grow legs yeah
                                         
                                         whoa whoa and um out of out of the sky drifted down glowing a ticket back to london i can go home now
                                         
                                         but how how was the fronge in general is it crazy fun is it good to be back the front i guess you were back last year but is it back in you know to be back in its full form it looks pretty pretty
                                         
    
                                         close to a normal one i think i mean I mean, it's hard to tell.
                                         
                                         The numbers of shows is down by, what, like 400?
                                         
                                         I heard 17%.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's about 17.
                                         
                                         Yeah, 20%.
                                         
                                         I don't know if audiences are down by the same amount.
                                         
                                         It's hard to tell.
                                         
                                         The Royal Mile was nice and busy,
                                         
    
                                         and the Saturdays were very busy.
                                         
                                         Ticket numbers are sort of fine
                                         
                                         it's looking like it could be not normal but surprisingly close because i was very pessimistic
                                         
                                         about it um yeah well i heard that so ticket sales and are picking up and like yeah pretty
                                         
                                         it's good um it's good vibes overall um it's very nice to see
                                         
                                         everybody shout out uh to um alfie brown if you're at the fringe alfie is doing new material like
                                         
                                         whips over the next couple of days i think only and um he by his own admission he fucked up filling
                                         
                                         in the form so it doesn't say alfie brown the end of the pier at the end of the world.
                                         
    
                                         It just says the end of the pier at the end of the world.
                                         
                                         So it looks like a really sort of like romantic play about an apocalypse.
                                         
                                         Oh, he didn't put his name on the form.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he buggered it up.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he buggered it up.
                                         
                                         So the photo is something else.
                                         
                                         So I don't know.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         And it's on at like five past midnight at Monkey Barrel.
                                         
                                         So last night, me and great comedian, great friend of the pod, Alex Keeley, were having a lovely pint and discussing audiences in the Monkey Barrel bar.
                                         
                                         discussing our audiences in the Monkey Barrel Bar.
                                         
                                         And Alfie and Kwame Asante,
                                         
                                         another excellent comedian,
                                         
                                         an old friend of mine,
                                         
                                         was there as well.
                                         
                                         Good old Kwame.
                                         
    
                                         So me, Kili and Kwame were having a pint and Alfie sort of burst into the bar
                                         
                                         like the dad from Beauty and the Beast.
                                         
                                         He came into the bar
                                         
                                         and he sort of bellowed very impressively
                                         
                                         to the crowd in the bar, ladies and gentlemen,
                                         
                                         about the fact that, owing to various factors,
                                         
                                         which it turned out was getting the name a bit wrong,
                                         
                                         there weren't enough people in the room
                                         
    
                                         for the work in progress.
                                         
                                         Well, there were some, but he wanted more, basically. So he did it. He did a really good little speech and just basically everyone in the room for the work in progress. Like, well, there were some, but he wanted more, basically.
                                         
                                         So he did it.
                                         
                                         He did a really good little speech,
                                         
                                         and just basically everyone in the bar clapped like it was a coup.
                                         
                                         And we all went and watched.
                                         
                                         He did a speech about how, oh, wow.
                                         
                                         That's very impressive.
                                         
    
                                         That's fringe stuff.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         fringe stuff that's fringe that's fringe that's fringe do you think the fringe could have a mascot um called um what would he be called renty
                                         
                                         he'd be called he'd be called renty
                                         
                                         and uh what would he be physically?
                                         
                                         A big financial document?
                                         
    
                                         Like a paper bill?
                                         
                                         Yeah, like a bill?
                                         
                                         Yeah, or... A very long bill.
                                         
                                         Or like a big sort of square foot.
                                         
                                         A square foot?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh, I see.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         So like Renty the Square Foot.
                                         
                                         That's the fringe mascot.
                                         
                                         Yeah. It's Renty the Squarefoot. That's the Fringe mascot. Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's Renty the Squarefoot, and his catchphrase is, That's Fringe.
                                         
                                         He just shrugs.
                                         
                                         Renty.
                                         
                                         Renty, please. I want to do a show so badly,
                                         
                                         but the rent, the flat, it's 5,000 pounds.
                                         
    
                                         It's not even close to the central.
                                         
                                         That's Fringe. He does a to the center. That's fringe.
                                         
                                         He does a big shrug.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
                                         Sorry, kids.
                                         
                                         That's fringe.
                                         
    
                                         And kids love him for some reason.
                                         
                                         Yay!
                                         
                                         Rant-y!
                                         
                                         Yeah, they love him.
                                         
                                         They love him and they pay him Because that's what he wants
                                         
                                         That's all Renty wants
                                         
                                         Renty just eats money
                                         
                                         And he poops tears
                                         
    
                                         Yeah so that was
                                         
                                         Fringe stuff is happening Phil
                                         
                                         Is the headline
                                         
                                         Fringe shit is going on
                                         
                                         Delightful I can't wait to be there stuff is happening, Phil, is the headline. Fringe shit is going on.
                                         
                                         Delightful. I can't wait to be there. I'll be there next...
                                         
                                         I'll be there starting on the
                                         
                                         15th of Monday. My week
                                         
    
                                         of shows has sold out, but
                                         
                                         adding an extra
                                         
                                         show on the Thursday.
                                         
                                         So if there are any pod buds up
                                         
                                         and you missed out on
                                         
                                         tickets the first time around, I'm doing one extra show on Thursday night
                                         
                                         The 18th of August at 10.30pm
                                         
                                         So come along to that
                                         
    
                                         Shall we read some correspondence?
                                         
                                         Yes we must really
                                         
                                         We must
                                         
                                         Letters
                                         
                                         Emails
                                         
                                         Phone numbers
                                         
                                         Your sister
                                         
                                         Correspondence. Letters.
                                         
    
                                         Correspondence.
                                         
                                         Reading letters from people who like us.
                                         
                                         From people who hate us.
                                         
                                         From people who don't mind.
                                         
                                         Reading letters about their poops.
                                         
                                         About their days. About their loved ones. about their days about their loved ones
                                         
                                         about their children
                                         
                                         about their uncles, about their jobs
                                         
    
                                         it's letters
                                         
                                         that was beautiful
                                         
                                         thank you
                                         
                                         about their uncles, about their jobs.
                                         
                                         That is really funny.
                                         
                                         I'm going to have that stuck in my head all day.
                                         
                                         About their uncles, about their jobs. Oh, Lord. Oh lord
                                         
                                         Oh it's getting warm
                                         
    
                                         It's a warm Pierre
                                         
                                         Another heatwave is coming to London
                                         
                                         I can't wait to go up to Edinburgh
                                         
                                         And I checked the
                                         
                                         Just to get away from the heat
                                         
                                         And literally the day I get there begins a week of rain in Edinburgh.
                                         
                                         Yes, I've heard this.
                                         
                                         The rain cometh.
                                         
    
                                         Whereas at the moment in Edinburgh, it's pretty muggy.
                                         
                                         It's pretty muggy.
                                         
                                         Is it warm?
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's warm enough that in a big room full of people, I am sweating a lot.
                                         
                                         Pretty lot of sweat, actually.
                                         
                                         The heat's a real problem. I'm sweating a lot. Pretty lot of sweat, actually. That's the...
                                         
                                         Yeah, the heat's a real problem.
                                         
                                         Yeah, every venue fights the heat.
                                         
    
                                         Luke.
                                         
                                         Luke gets in touch.
                                         
                                         Luke!
                                         
                                         Don't be spooky.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Stop it.
                                         
                                         Hello, P&P.
                                         
                                         He says, love the part. I'm one
                                         
    
                                         of a bunch of apprentices that have
                                         
                                         been living together.
                                         
                                         Oh, wow.
                                         
                                         Sounds quite magical.
                                         
                                         Yeah, where does this guy
                                         
                                         live? Skyrim?
                                         
                                         That would be a funny thing to...
                                         
                                         Oh, who do you live with, man?
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I live with my fellow apprentices.
                                         
                                         I beg your pardon?
                                         
                                         I live in the guild.
                                         
                                         Well, of course I'm housed
                                         
                                         by the worshipful guild.
                                         
                                         That's great. I wish I lived in...
                                         
                                         I guess I live in a house of apprentices
                                         
                                         During the fringe
                                         
    
                                         Yeah that's true
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         Every flat in Edinburgh is a guild
                                         
                                         For the month of August
                                         
                                         Every flat in Edinburgh is a guild
                                         
                                         Isn't that right renty?
                                         
                                         That's fringe
                                         
    
                                         Renty charge guilds renty it guilt money that's french yeah yay
                                         
                                         all cheering and running after him um so luke says i'm one of a bunch of apprentices that have
                                         
                                         been living together and we got the opportunity to go on a work trip all paid for for a week to gain some experience at a uni campus.
                                         
                                         Very cool. Lovely.
                                         
                                         What? Apprentice of what?
                                         
                                         I wonder. I wonder. I think we might have
                                         
                                         heard from Luke before
                                         
                                         but I'm not sure.
                                         
    
                                         Right. I'm not sure.
                                         
                                         It's cool though.
                                         
                                         Apprenticeships are the way to go
                                         
                                         I think for a lot of jobs.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Oh yeah for sure
                                         
                                         you and I did
                                         
                                         just an unofficial one at uni by doing gigs
                                         
                                         constantly
                                         
    
                                         precisely
                                         
                                         we were booked into an okay hotel
                                         
                                         but was virtually empty as
                                         
                                         restrictions had only been lifted for a little bit
                                         
                                         come the second evening we all decided to have a drink at the hotel bar hotel but was virtually empty as restrictions had only been lifted for a little bit.
                                         
                                         Come the second evening, we all decided to have a drink at the hotel bar.
                                         
                                         Very nice. Lovely.
                                         
                                         And for me, that's all it was. A drink.
                                         
    
                                         Or as me as one of...
                                         
                                         Oh God, what is this?
                                         
                                         And for me, that's all it was. A drink.
                                         
                                         As me or one or two of the others
                                         
                                         decided to go to bed so we could get up in the morning.
                                         
                                         However, others decided to continue drinking.
                                         
                                         Come the morning, I heard laughter outside my door.
                                         
                                         I opened it, and one of the clearly hungover friends
                                         
    
                                         offers me 50 pounds to swap rooms.
                                         
                                         Oh, no.
                                         
                                         I suspiciously decline.
                                         
                                         That's good, isn't it? I suspiciously decline.'s good isn't it
                                         
                                         I suspiciously decline
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         No
                                         
    
                                         No
                                         
                                         It's a nice way to decline something
                                         
                                         Suspiciously
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         Where was I
                                         
                                         I suspiciously decline
                                         
                                         And ask what's going on
                                         
    
                                         They lead me down the corridor and show me
                                         
                                         Before even reaching their door
                                         
                                         I can smell the horrible stench
                                         
                                         They open the door
                                         
                                         And I immediately notice a cow pat of shit
                                         
                                         On the floor at the end of the bed
                                         
                                         Oh
                                         
                                         No How And I immediately notice a cow pat of shit on the floor at the end of the bed. Oh. Oh, no.
                                         
    
                                         How?
                                         
                                         Like an evil Santa has been.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         It's not cold this year, kids.
                                         
                                         The Krampus.
                                         
                                         It's not cold this year, kids.
                                         
                                         Santa's absolutely furious.
                                         
                                         He's calling it bum coal, and he's angry.
                                         
    
                                         At this point, the smell was overwhelming
                                         
                                         And I couldn't bring myself to go in
                                         
                                         So I wasn't sick but from my friend's description
                                         
                                         There was poo on the bed sheets on the chair
                                         
                                         And around the wall and on the wall
                                         
                                         Around the light switch oh no
                                         
                                         Oh
                                         
                                         Oh my god
                                         
    
                                         Oh no yuck
                                         
                                         Like the scene of a pooey murder
                                         
                                         Yeah where the CSI turns The light on and sees all the poo everywhere,
                                         
                                         and it goes, vring, like that.
                                         
                                         Like that bit in Red Dragon.
                                         
                                         We found this absolutely hilarious.
                                         
                                         He claimed he didn't remember how it happened,
                                         
                                         but would you admit that you did?
                                         
    
                                         Fair.
                                         
                                         But it did give him Give him a big problem
                                         
                                         Our manager made the booking
                                         
                                         So should the staff discover the mess
                                         
                                         They would call our manager
                                         
                                         And we also had to work that day
                                         
                                         Right
                                         
                                         So we went to work
                                         
    
                                         It was only a ten minute walk away
                                         
                                         With him unsurprisingly depressed and hungover
                                         
                                         Come lunchtime he managed to slip away
                                         
                                         To try and clean the room
                                         
                                         He was away the rest of the day
                                         
                                         And somehow this went unnoticed.
                                         
                                         Good, clever boy.
                                         
                                         We came back, and he said he'd cleaned most of the mess on the wall and the floor
                                         
    
                                         and used the shower to clean the chair.
                                         
                                         Oh, my God.
                                         
                                         Oh, right, he took the chair into the shower.
                                         
                                         Yeah, like a pensioner.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         You don't want to use that shower to clean the chair
                                         
                                         Also like
                                         
                                         By that point
                                         
    
                                         Presumably a cleaner had already
                                         
                                         Been in and just gone, nope
                                         
                                         Giving themselves
                                         
                                         A suspicious no
                                         
                                         Just looked at all the shit everywhere and went
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         Before even opening the door they could smell it through the door
                                         
                                         They just go no
                                         
    
                                         No
                                         
                                         This is a trap
                                         
                                         However there was no way
                                         
                                         He could clean his bed and bedding
                                         
                                         So he put them in a black bag in the cupboard
                                         
                                         And just turned the mattress over
                                         
                                         You could still smell it outside the room
                                         
                                         Oh my god
                                         
    
                                         Come the second to last day,
                                         
                                         so I guess this is a few days in,
                                         
                                         if it's a week away,
                                         
                                         second to last day,
                                         
                                         the sheets are still in the cupboard,
                                         
                                         and we're telling him he has to tell reception
                                         
                                         what's happened,
                                         
                                         no matter how embarrassing it would be.
                                         
    
                                         But he had a plan.
                                         
                                         He did go down to reception,
                                         
                                         but he said that he'd left his sheets outside,
                                         
                                         and they had been collected,
                                         
                                         but he hadn't been given any new ones.
                                         
                                         So he got the clean sheets from reception
                                         
                                         and took his poo sheets out of the hotel
                                         
                                         in a bag for life, looking pretty suspicious.
                                         
    
                                         Hopefully not for life, all the poo sheets,
                                         
                                         only just for the journey.
                                         
                                         And he put them in a shop's industrial bin
                                         
                                         around the corner.
                                         
                                         Oh my god.
                                         
                                         Somehow he managed to get away with it
                                         
                                         with nothing more than a faded stain on the carpet
                                         
                                         aren't we all in the end just that um i will never trust a hotel room again keep on jacking it luke
                                         
    
                                         yeah i know whenever i go into a hotel room i still i'm under the illusion that it's mine
                                         
                                         and like it feels like i'm the first person to have ever been in there.
                                         
                                         And I'll get naked and I'll jump on the bed, rubbing my ass on things and making snow angels in the bed.
                                         
                                         And just grabbing my naked parts and just rolling around like,
                                         
                                         Ah, my place! My place!
                                         
                                         And then this moment will come across me and i go
                                         
                                         oh i'm not the first person to have done this
                                         
                                         yeah you think ah this is um this is what everyone does isn't it
                                         
    
                                         um the comedian tom segura has a funny routine about that
                                         
                                         where he says
                                         
                                         every time he goes into a hotel room
                                         
                                         he says, now time to
                                         
                                         disrespect this room or something like that
                                         
                                         Well, thank you very much Luke
                                         
                                         I hope your apprentice
                                         
                                         sheeps is going well
                                         
    
                                         Yes, whatever it is in The Dark Arts I hope your apprentice sheeps is going well.
                                         
                                         Yes, whatever it is in.
                                         
                                         The dark arts.
                                         
                                         Alchemy.
                                         
                                         Coopering.
                                         
                                         What's coopering?
                                         
                                         A cooper is...
                                         
                                         Do they make barrels? They make barrels, Philip.
                                         
    
                                         Well done.
                                         
                                         Nice.
                                         
                                         You'll be a medieval boy yet.
                                         
                                         Very nice.
                                         
                                         Well, Christ Penelope, it's time for the bonus pod.
                                         
                                         Christ Penelope.
                                         
                                         Christ Penelope.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, we have got to go to the secret fringe bar of the bonus pod.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And before Pierre must return to his glorious fringe run,
                                         
                                         and I must return to...
                                         
                                         Well, I've got an electrician coming.
                                         
                                         That's what's happening for me today.
                                         
                                         You must return to squid rooting out the window.
                                         
    
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         But see you all in the bonus pod or if you are not
                                         
                                         a Patreon, which you should be, we'll see you
                                         
                                         next week. See you next week.
                                         
                                         Bye-bye. Bye.
                                         
