BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Episode 87 - VotePod!

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

The boys discuss the election despite it NOT HAVING FINISHED YET - will they be as wrong and stupid as they were about corona virus? Will Phil and Pierre become neutral or even evil? Get bonus BudPod ...on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, it's the election, the election, Bud Pod, which we sort of thought we'd know by now, didn't we, Phil? Yes, we put off recording this pod in the hopes that we'd be able to reflect on a tumultuous night of democracy in action and maybe pass some sort of worthy judgment on whoever came out victorious but we're basically we might as well have recorded yesterday for all that we know now the only difference between us
Starting point is 00:00:36 recording now and recording yesterday is that we are tired and nervous we're tired because we were up last night together playing poker. Thinking it was going to be a real old-fashioned poker and watch the election night together. But it didn't happen. I just lost money.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Went back to my losing ways. I went back. Pierre busted me out twice, I think. Yeah, but then what's annoying is that I busted you out twice, and I also lost bad over the course of the night. Ugh, yeah, terrible. Terrible. Will that turn out to be
Starting point is 00:01:20 an indicative representation of this election who knows having having having done well at some point in the battle losing at the end anyway yeah i genuinely think i was that bad at poker because i had like before we started playing i had one like beer that's enough i think oh yeah honestly i had one beer at dinner and last time we played i drank nothing and i was like rain man i cannot think how i cannot it really is it really is it's a lesson that i learn again and again i will never remember is that booze makes me dumb sometimes i think oh booze will make me smart because it will unlock a bit of my brain that my boring sober side suppresses i'll be i'll be let loose it's the fault of people like fucking hemingway and all these druggy boozy artists you think oh their addictions really unlock to their abilities it's not true at
Starting point is 00:02:21 all it's not true at all yeah yeah and then the trouble is that you drink a little bit of booze and it makes you forget the fact that it makes you dumb yeah yeah it it's like a parasite um and i'd like i think we discussed this ages ago but yeah the hemingway thing you just think is that why it took you like a decade per book it's just editing out all your sloppy drunk mistakes you He was such a perfectionist. He was such a perfectionist that he wouldn't even consider publishing something until he'd had
Starting point is 00:02:51 three bottles of bourbon. He was such a perfectionist, he was absolutely battered constantly. Just imagine. He was such a perfectionist. He liked nothing more than to ingest the thing that famously reduces your perfectionism. Yeah, no one's ever gone,
Starting point is 00:03:17 excuse me, doctor, before we go into surgery, could you have a drink? I just feel a lot better if I'd seen you quickly have a double whiskey. I don't even understand the calming the nerves thing about alcohol as well. I remember watching Titanic
Starting point is 00:03:37 when I was really young and there's these boats going down and the captain takes a swig of brandy. And I was like, Mummy, why did he do that and she's like to feel braver and i've sort of taken i've sort of internalized that thinking and now i think oh i'm feeling a bit nervous about this i'll have a drink i did that last night it made me feel more nervous i just felt more nervous i just felt as nervous but sort of hot and and confused now i'm now I'm nervous and blurry.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah. It's the same with, like, cigarettes and coffee and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But, well, I mean, I guess we should discuss the horrifying election. It's closer than we thought. I still think Biden's going to clinch it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:28 At this point in the commentary, it was very close, very close. People on Twitter especially are losing their minds. They're like, he's done it again. He's won again. How could we be so foolish? But there are lots of mail-in ballots to count still. And people have been saying for months, again how could we be so foolish but there are lots of mail-in ballots to count still and it
Starting point is 00:04:45 would and we people have been saying for months like it's not good there won't be a result on the day there's so many mail-in ballots it's going to take days to find out for sure but everyone seems so forgotten yeah and also i mean the number of mail-in ballots is like in some cases two or three times the size of the gap between the two candidates currently right yeah just enormous like i think in pennsylvania it's a quarter of the vote still they haven't even got to so yeah i mean yeah but what i want to see is how wrong are the polls this time like what where we what i want know, here's my question, Phil. Were we dumb again? I had a feeling we were dumb again.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I came close to betting on Trump winning last night because it would have been good odds, but I couldn't allow myself to become that kind of person, really. To become a disaster capitalist like that um but yeah yeah i i think i think if polling gets wrong again this time we should stop polling because it's obviously a waste of everyone's time yeah well this is it i mean if they can't fix it with like all that money and four years of just like whatever the key is like oh you forgot to go to alligator county and talk to them or whatever it is it's clearly just like
Starting point is 00:06:11 gibberish and through i don't know what the internet or people just lying to pollsters things just change really quickly whatever it is it just doesn't seem to work anymore because they the polls look even stupider with how precise they get it looks stupider to go it's gonna be 64.35 and then it's
Starting point is 00:06:35 10 points off that looks worse than if you'd gone 60ish sure we have become arrogant in our command of of the elements of science where scientific men have
Starting point is 00:06:53 we've grown proud the one thing that polls can never account for is the voting habits and thought patterns of people who when you say sorry do you have time to do a poll? They go, no. They're the most mysterious group in history, Phil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I mean, the polling sample of any poll is in and of itself selective to a degree, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And we've never in history found out what people think who go, I'm busy. Or I don't trust, or I don't give you, I don't tell you, or just I don't trust you with my information, or you're from the FBI, or just like absolute nutters. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to tell you anything because you want to steal my DNA. the FBI or just like absolute nutters yeah yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:07:46 yeah yeah yeah I'm not going to tell you anything because you want to steal my DNA Bill Gates which is a shame because that guy is you know a lot of the Trump base is that guy yeah yeah yeah so you know no wonder we underestimate it
Starting point is 00:08:02 I mean I guess what it does what this closeness does show is that you know, no wonder we underestimate it. I mean, I guess what this closeness does show is that, you know, Trump wasn't a one-off. It wasn't just some one-off act of national vandalism that this sort of nihilistic worldview is pervasive now. It's a large part of our world it's um uh uh it's pervasive and also i've been enjoying a lot of people from the uk tweeting but how how can a voter like a president so much they ignore all these racism scandals and they like someone tweeting that who was you know completely unapologetically pro-corbyn yeah exactly how are people able to put aside their morals for for an economic plan that they roughly agreed with for something that would better them in a financial capacity?
Starting point is 00:09:08 How could people put aside an entire minority of people? Another thing that those people are going to have a lot of trouble contending with is how many more black and Latino people are voting Trump this time around. Especially in Florida. That makes things very awkward. The Cubans love that guy. Yeah. I wonder why.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I know nothing about Cubans, so I couldn't possibly offer an explanation. Well, if they're in Florida, they fled a socialist dictatorship, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So when those guys show up and go don't worry we're going to abolish the police and install socialism the cubans are like no yeah but biden has been quite clear in his distancing from from that wing of his party but i guess it's just the culture of it right the democrats have been painted with this culture yeah but like biden is distancing away from a wing
Starting point is 00:10:06 that he admits is inside his own party. Donald Trump is the enemy of that across the board. Right. Yeah, okay. So it's a much clearer choice where it's like, well, that guy says he won't let his friends do this bad thing to me. And then that guy says he's going to get rid of all of them. So I'll just go with him. Yeah, sure. It it's clear answer yeah it's um
Starting point is 00:10:31 oh hang on uh oh if anyone heard anything in the background oh no it's my phone my phone was the you know the worst thing about trying to follow the election on uh american websites phil autoplay ads with loud uh voices that's just trying to look at cnn for you yeah we're just trying to look at cnn and read with my eyes and there's two things i hate one is i'm just trying to read, and then from nowhere I start hearing, do you like cement? Just bellowing, screaming into my ear. Screaming.
Starting point is 00:11:12 That's the worst. And the other worst thing, and the BBC has started doing this, and I hate it, is there'll be a headline which is like, but why is everyone in the Hebrides getting scarlet fever? Or like some insane story and you go whoa what and you click and it's just a video what do you mean
Starting point is 00:11:32 it's just a video it's just a video there's no article it's just a big video and they go Johnny Kronkles investigates and I go I don't give a fuck about Johnny Kronkles and his media to one degree write the article so I can read it at my leisure with my eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I hate it. I hate the little videos. There was that phrase everyone kept saying two or three years ago. All the news in the world is pivoting to video. We're going to pivot to video. Articles are dead. And it hasn't come to pass. It's not true, but some people insist on making me watch things in a really rigid
Starting point is 00:12:07 and volume-based way. Like, no video is ever going to be loud enough compared to the volume of reading, which is in my own head. That's right. To paraphrase Mean Girls, stop trying to make video happen. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I've been reading so much, man. I've been reading a lot. I mean, this is on the other side, but I've got addicted to reading. Yeah. I'm just really into reading. I'm a bit addicted to reading, you know. I'm just tearing through books. Tearing.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And then reading them. Yeah, much harder because i found it too easy um i now tear up the books and i try and piece them together it feels like i've written my own book every book's a mystery um sorry were you asking me about my predictions well i was gonna say what are your predictions and also has has anything happened so far where you've gone, what? And shaken your computer screen? About this election? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I mean, like in the last day or so. No, not really. I mean, part of me, a sort of childish part of me was like, maybe the Democrats will win Texas. I was like, yeah, wouldn't that be an amazing turn in our world's fortunes? But it wasn't to pass. It didn't come to pass. All in all, I've been struck by just how boring it all is
Starting point is 00:13:42 and how little I actually care. I've been struck by just how boring it all is and how little I actually care. It was the quickest I've stopped watching election coverage. I think I'm finally learning. After Brexit, after the first Trump victory, I'm like, I'm not even going to watch this. Why? And, I mean, it's so boring. BBC News just asking Martin Luther King's son what he thinks.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. I mean, will i will say though the bbc coverage was it has has been very very lackluster compared to say cnn i've not even looked at cnn's way the bbc's has been a bit disappointing no bbc's been bad cnn's really good it's because the bbc still have to constantly interrupt something that might be interesting because A, the BBC don't know anything about like county level demographics in America so they can't be like, well as we all know Chattanooga County is famously
Starting point is 00:14:35 Icelandic or whatever the fuck so they can't be and also they have to keep bringing everything back to the UK so they have to keep going like, and of course if Michigan swings Democrat, what will that mean for Brexit fishing deals? It's so lame. They can't bring themselves to admit that it matters at a greater level than that
Starting point is 00:14:57 because if America sneezes, the world catches a cold. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out what's really at stake here you know if um trump stays in power i guess he'll be sort of unleashed with no election in four years to worry about but i don't know if he was ever worrying about this one, really. He'll go full crazy, for sure. Yeah. But I guess what's important is that the Democrats retain their House of Representatives, which I think they're expected to. Yeah, but it's more about what it says as an endorsement for a certain way of behaving
Starting point is 00:15:41 and a certain way of saying things and policies and stuff. Because he's been doing stuff that even the most mentally ill republicans would never have dreamed of even trying to get away with and he's just going look see the door's been unlocked the whole time yeah yeah yeah it's so he's an open pandora's box certainly yeah exactly yeah and so if he loses it's at least a message saying okay it turns out you can get away with some, let's be honest, absolutely mental stuff, but you will lose the next election at least. That's something. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Whereas if you can just be like, sure, I fucked a bunch of porn stars. I paid them a huge bribe to be quiet. Is that a kid in a cage? And then people just like, I like this guy. Yeah. That's a bad message to send to the kids. I think, yeah, I think it'll also be a message
Starting point is 00:16:36 that the internet really needs to be shut down. Or social media has to be shut down. It's like Facebook has to close. It has to be shut down it it's like facebook has to close it has to close because like one of the things that has happened to trump would have sunk nixon 10 times over but then now you you could just like trump says he could shoot someone in fifth avenue and all the supporters would go oh more media lies and then if trump admitted it in a dementia addled ramble then they'd go ah well good it was probably a bad guy they just don't care it's not about truth anymore everyone's doing it like a life or death
Starting point is 00:17:17 scramble for survival yeah yeah um but hey it'd be good news for uh comedy though pierre right at the very least it'll be a good time to be a comedian as comedians have an easy time of it don't you think oh my god i love it uh when people say that on like when you do like a little radio interview to promote a comedy show like or like a little regional newspaper item. It's like, wow, fertile ground for satire, me thinks. So lame. And it's like, I always want to say to them, well, actually, the worse the world gets, the less comedy you get, because of how susceptible to depression most comedians are so no yeah and also the closer the source material is to already being a joke the less you can do with
Starting point is 00:18:12 it it to me it's it's you might as well just like play austin powers and go oh that would be fun that's a good movie it's a parody you should you should do something about that maybe like a funny version of that like a goofy version of Austin Powers maybe it's not satire to quote someone exactly or it shouldn't be, I mean, fucking hell but it's getting there, it's getting to the point where
Starting point is 00:18:37 what you do is you just play the speech and go see? or just like, put your head in your hands or did you like the Donald Trump Macho man dancing video It was YMCA not Macho man Oh that's right those are the two songs
Starting point is 00:18:54 He plays at his rallies did you know that Oh does he play why does he play on YMCA Surely that's against brand If anything Or is it ironic I was talking to an American about this. An American?
Starting point is 00:19:09 An American. And they were saying that Donald Trump's voter demographic belongs to that sincere generation. Huh. First of all, they're from the generation where that song was on the radio when they were having a great time. They're that old. They're like, I remember my first wife,
Starting point is 00:19:28 and we both enjoyed listening to Macho Man. And, you know, dancing. Imagine just sitting down in a living room with your wife. Macho, macho, macho. And just looking into the distance, just listening to the music. Tapping your finger on your knee while your dog sleeps by a fire. I want to be a macho. And these people are super sincere.
Starting point is 00:19:57 There's no sense of irony to it at all. They're like, what a fun song for the president to choose. And that's it. Yeah. a fun song for the president to choose, and that's it. Yeah. Irony is a... Yeah. Irony is a disease
Starting point is 00:20:10 of the left. That's true. That is true. The right is cripplingly sincere, and it does seem to work, but we'll see. We'll see how well it works, but it's working a hell of a lot better than we expected.
Starting point is 00:20:35 That's true. that's true that's true do you think that like as like like all the all the all the protests uh against police brutality like for for each like left-wing voter that went my god we live in a kind of demi-fascist uh you know dystopia it energized some guy called Cletus to be like they wanna do what? and so it just cancelled each other out yeah I mean the last year
Starting point is 00:20:57 last two years has been a real drawing of battle lines and that's just going to encourage people to pick their side. Yeah. And we've lost, yeah, when you lose nuance, you know, you... I was talking to
Starting point is 00:21:13 an American friend who's just like... An American? An American friend who you know, she thinks like a civil war's coming basically. She lives in LA and everyone's buying guns. Yes, I did see some articles saying like the last year has been like the most astonishing year for gun sales what with like covid and riots and protests every year every year i don't invest in guns and every year i feel like an idiot i just, surely in this time around people aren't going to buy loads of guns.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Every year, I should invest in emergency supplies. Yes, you should invest in whatever you see people fighting over in the background of a disaster film.
Starting point is 00:22:03 You should watch coverage of disasters uh or like riots or looting or whatever and just like pause the news and look in the background like what is that is that samsung what is that like noting it down what is that that's a i can see it's a hurricane lamp but what brand damn it or maybe maybe we're just getting a lot of Budpod listeners in America And So they're buying guns On your recommendation
Starting point is 00:22:33 Maybe The trouble is that Guns have like a domino effect Where if you realise that everyone down the road Has got guns Then you're like, I should have a gun They've all got guns That then you're like, well, I should have a gun. They've all got guns. I mean, it's what you say, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, and if I lived somewhere where everyone else had a gun, then I would also want one. But I don't, so I don't really feel the need. Yeah, it's real escalation there. So I don't know how you pull back from all these guns. You have to make everyone somehow agree to drop their guns at once. Everyone meet in the town square with your guns and we're gonna go three two one and everyone just goes you have to drop your gun clattering noises yeah from from watching films ph, I think what you need is a man with a very long droopy black moustache and a black hat
Starting point is 00:23:26 to say, easy, easy! And then people tend to lower their guns. Or maybe for a very cute little girl to hold one of the soldier's hands and walk him among
Starting point is 00:23:42 the crowd. And as they pass, everyone drops their guns and then kneels for some reason. Because they're faced with a... The last thing we want, Phil, is a panicked matronly woman to shut a load of windows. That means bloodshed's about to arrive. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:24:13 My lord. In a way, Donald Trump winning would make a lot of sense given that 2020 is the year of all the bad things all the worst options happening. Like if something can go wrong is the year of all the bad things, all the worst options happening. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Like, if something can go wrong, like, the magic of 2020 is you saying,
Starting point is 00:24:32 well, there's only a one in 20 chance that I could burn my hand horribly if I'm... Like, it just will happen. It doesn't matter if it's very unlikely. Yeah, Sod's Law became a year. Basically, right? sod's year yeah I think in America they call it Murphy's law I don't know why
Starting point is 00:24:52 yeah because the Irish are unlucky maybe something like that right do you think maybe because in America the Irish are sort of unlucky and then in the UK the jokes are always that they're phenomenally stupid for some reason.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So is the luck of the Irish a sarcastic phrase? It kind of has to be, right? Right, yeah. It's the luck of the Kennedys, who are an appropriately named family i guess yes yes i got very i went down a real rabbit hole the other day researching was it chapakidik where ted kennedy was involved somehow in the drowning of that young woman
Starting point is 00:25:40 oh i don't know the story yeah the huge scandal and I was looking it up and I was like, Jesus, I mean that, it's definitely a cover-up of something, I just don't know what. Yeah, look it up, it's spelled Chappaquiddick. The name of the bridge that the car fell off. Now we're turning into a conspiracy zone.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Should we become a conspiracy podcast if Donald Trump wins? Yeah, sure, why not? We get people to send us money to sponsor the podcast, but the money's always sent in raw gold and Bitcoin. That's the demographic of our listeners. Maybe we should become survivalist conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:26:27 guys yeah I think that'd be fun I think we should get a log cabin somewhere and record the podcast there and half of the podcast will be like great recipes for
Starting point is 00:26:43 squirrel yeah the bud cave podcast will be like great recipes for squirrel. Yeah, the bud cave. The bud cave. Yes. You have a lair. I've always wanted a lair. I used to dream of having an underground lab
Starting point is 00:27:01 when I was a kid. I was like, I can't wait until I'm old enough to finally build my underground laboratory. Also, if we have a lair, the Bud Cave, our sort of Batman fantasies of having a talking robot
Starting point is 00:27:16 servant, that's just an Alexa. That's true, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can have that. We're already there. We live in the future. It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can have that. We're already there. We live in the future. It's true. Maybe, yeah. It must be getting harder and harder and harder for films like Batman or James Bond
Starting point is 00:27:36 to come up with technologies that are going to impress us. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like... Yeah. The kind of gadgets that James Bond had in the eighties are like toys. Now you can buy it as a toy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You know, or they, or they, or it's, it's stuff that you wouldn't want where it's like, it's, it shoots you out of your car and you're like, well,
Starting point is 00:27:56 I don't want that. That sounds like, that sounds like I'll only make things worse for me. So I'm being shot at and I have to be fired into the sky and lose two inches of height from my spine compressing. And almost certainly break an arm. Do they really lose height?
Starting point is 00:28:15 That's the thing about ejector seats. Really? If you use an ejector seat, if a pilot uses an ejector seat like three times or something, they just have to retire. Really? The forces acting on the spine and the human times or something, they just have to retire. Really? The forces acting on the spine and the human body are just too great for you to continue.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Jesus. I knew that there's a good chance you break your arm or you break something if you use your ejector seat. God, can you imagine how scary that is? Fuck that. If you're already in a crashing plane and your answer is to shoot yourself higher into the sky why the fuck would you want to be a jet pilot why
Starting point is 00:28:50 it's it's just the most terrifying just buy cocaine just buy cocaine it's also like flying a fighter jet you can go so quickly that you're like uh oh there's london and you're over london already like that's how quickly you can go yeah just just over countries in sort of seconds and then that's already terrifying hurtling through the air like that and then they're like okay the plan is to do this but with people trying to explode you that's the plan and if they do successfully explode you And you're lucky You press this button
Starting point is 00:29:28 And you will turn into a bag of bones Falling through the sky If they explode you But you're lucky You have to shoot yourself even higher And break your spine And then if you survive that and land They'll capture you and torture you
Starting point is 00:29:43 Hopefully not until you die awful it's not worth it for the sexy volleyball scene i did have a thought that uh if donald trump wins by like a landslide, which he's not gonna, even if he does win, but whatever. I thought like, okay, if the forces of evil win, then maybe I should just become, if not evil, then like chaotic neutral, you know? Yeah, I've... How would you define chaotic neutral? Just sort of not worrying about
Starting point is 00:30:22 whether you're being good or evil, but doing it in the the in the favor of some sort of like balance or greater purpose which may well be yourself i think i've i think i've been tending towards that position for the last few years now i think i'm yeah i think i'm tending towards that i think i've been tending towards that for a while i think so since brexit and Since Brexit and Trump, I've started to really lose faith in the value of goodness. Yes, I've watched you, Phil, like a boring Jedi, slide into neutrality. yeah i yeah i feel like i feel like donald trump is of cleansed me of something as he's cleansed me of a naivety i had this as well with jeremy corbyn and. I grew up so much in two years.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It cleansed me of naivety and the idea that there are good people and bad people and life is a battle between good and bad. And after Trump and after Corbyn, I just realized life is just a battle between conflicting interests. And there is no good and bad, really just a battle between conflicting interests yeah and there is no good and bad really it's just conflicting interests it's um it's it's funny to hear you say
Starting point is 00:31:54 the sort of thing that like um not the main villain in a marvel film but pretty close would say yeah in a way in a way it cleansed me I feel like I don't know if you've seen Bird Box Have you seen Bird Box? No It's about It's about
Starting point is 00:32:14 This Calamity happens to the world Where some mysterious otherworldly force If you look at it You go weird and then you kill yourself But then there there are people who don't kill themselves but like become obsessed with um with this being this supernatural being and they become sort of like followers of it and they try and get people
Starting point is 00:32:40 who are not as mad as them to look at it and they keep saying saying, it'll cleanse the world. Just look, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. And when they get people to look at it, they go nuts and they kill themselves. I feel like I'm part of the converted crazy people where I'm like, look at Donald Trump. It's beautiful. It'll cleanse the world.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It'll cleanse the world of naivety. I like the idea of you giving the speech to to someone and then you know and it's funny because what should happen is you should be looking away and then you should turn and look at them over your shoulder and say and in a way i have you to thank and they're like what yeah yeah yeah and you're like yes don't you see you showed me what was possible I'm I'm basically Anakin Skywalker if he stopped
Starting point is 00:33:32 two thirds into the Phantom Menace yeah he got that far and he went this'll do maybe at the end of Phantom Menace no maybe I mean at the end of Phantom Menace he's like, no, maybe I mean at the end of Phantom Menace. I mean, like, before he gets to the end of that
Starting point is 00:33:47 trilogy, episodes one to three, before he becomes full Sith. Yeah, when he's essentially sort of a powerful aristocrat. Hello? Hello, yeah. Hello? Oh, yeah. Hello.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You went away for a while there. I just said when Anakin's essentially like a powerful aristocrat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I'm at now. But I don't feel like it's chaotic I don't find anything chaotic about it in chaotic neutral I feel like I'm
Starting point is 00:34:30 giving up neutral is that one? Is that a choice? law what is there? There's chaotic neutral lawful neutral let me look this up maybe I'll say I'm lawful neutral I think I'm lawful neutral. Let me look this up. Maybe I'll say I'm lawful neutral. I think I'm lawful neutral.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I'm not chaotic. I don't want chaos. I definitely don't want chaos. I want more rules, if anything. I want to return to the rule-based order, as they say, of international diplomacy and public life. That's what it is. True neutral.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So there's lawful and neutral true neutral and chaotic evil a chaotic neutral and what's true neutral that's a good question um a lawful neutral character obeys principle as the highest virtues like a judge okay true neutral is neutral on both axes And cares not for any stances of alignment Okay I'm not true neutral So neutral is like Neither inclined to hurt or harm Or obey or rebel or help
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's someone who only really cares about themselves I suppose I'd say I'm lawful neutral then I'm lawful neutral Yes a chaotic neutral I'd say I'm lawful neutral then. I'm lawful neutral. Yes, a chaotic neutral... Yeah, a sort of free spirit. I'm not a free spirit at all. Yeah, I'm definitely not a chaotic spirit.
Starting point is 00:35:55 My spirit is caged, baby. My spirit is in solitary. Your spirit is on a leash baby well I guess we just have to say we will see and to any of our American listeners good luck out there yeah yeah yeah good luck and hey stay in line
Starting point is 00:36:23 you have to stay in line. This is all I'm seeing on fucking social media. Stay in line. British people. People who live in the UK have maybe three American followers. Stay in line. Don't even know what they're talking about. Yeah, it's just like someone who was on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK two years ago
Starting point is 00:36:47 desperately appealing to the people of rural Pennsylvania but yeah I guess keep voting it everyone yeah keep voting it Covey and whether you live I just want to say Keep voting it, everyone. Yeah, keep voting it. Covey. Yeah, whether you live... I just want to say,
Starting point is 00:37:09 I'm going to use our platform here on BodPod to say whether you live in the UK, whether you live in Canada, whether you're one of our listeners in Australia, whether you live in Hong Kong, to please remember to vote for the President of the United States. Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yes. Please don't forget. They still haven't counted all the votes from countries that aren't America. That's true. Alright. Koji guys and good luck and thank you for being so patient with our little election reaction pod. Yeah. Sorry there wasn't anything to react to but don't blame us. Blame America's
Starting point is 00:37:44 bafflingly rickety voting system slow so slow so every state has its own rules it's pathetic it's the most ramshackle I didn't realize a
Starting point is 00:37:59 voting system could feel like it was made out of string but the American voting system is feel like it was made out of string but the american voting system is the most amateur fucking i love i didn't realize how amazing our voting system in the uk was it's so fucking easy it's so easy yeah i've i've never the longest queue i've ever been in to vote was four people. I've never been in a queue at all. Not once. And also, the voting registry
Starting point is 00:38:31 checks all the time that you vote. They will send you five letters a week saying I registered this address. Do you still want to vote? Yeah? You're going to vote? Make sure you vote. If you don't want to vote, tell us. We're going to assume you want to vote. You want to vote, right? It's actually... they actually bother you yeah it's actually a nuisance yeah of course yeah and if you if you don't reply the queen comes
Starting point is 00:38:54 around and grabs the sides of your head really hard with her long nails and looks you in the eyes and says oh you can't vote it's horrible vote for my government and then if you defeat them I will give you a prize champion oh fuck me well yeah good to see you guys in the dystopia I guess and Koji
Starting point is 00:39:17 yeah Koji, Kofi, bye bye everyone bye

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