BudPod with Phil Wang & Pierre Novellie - Introducing...BudPod Classics! - #1
Episode Date: February 3, 2025Introducing BudPod Classics! Every Monday we will be releasing a hilarious snippet of a Classic episode of BudPod for you to enjoy and reminisce in.This week our BudPod Classic comes from episode 1, w...here Phil and Pierre name their first ever Most Cool Uncool Thing and the Least Cool Cool Thing.Link to the full episode below -Apple PodcastsSpotifyEnjoy and KOJI ! X Get bonus BudPod on Patreon! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Pierre and I, in every episode, are going to do a segment called...
We realize there are things in the world that are the coolest uncool thing and the most
uncool cool thing. Yeah
so like the
Most uncool cool thing I
think is alcohol
Whoo? Okay, because of all the alcohols like a cool thing, so it's actually really uncool of all the cool things
Yeah, alcohol is right there at the bottom. Yeah, because I guess for one. It's obvious. That's true
To it ruins your body.
Yes.
And alcoholism is the most un- I was going to say it's the most unattractive addiction,
but people really sort of romanticize alcoholics.
They do, but like they always romanticize alcoholics where like,
I always think this, there's a reason why in movies,
or in like detective shows or TV shows,
if they ever have a sort of romantic alcoholic,
you only ever see them in the bar, like in their element.
Whereas like, if it was like a guy being like,
I just can't stop drinking whiskey till I solve this case.
And there was just that guy having loads of diarrhea
every morning because he's an alcoholic and going like,
ugh, like failing at cooking eggs or whatever.
Just like, ugh.
Just like the really like disgusting.
Yeah, if movies could depict having a really dry mouth
in the morning, it would not be cool.
Or that thing where your armpits smell of the booze you were drinking.
Yeah, if we had some full...
That hot feeling in your head when your head is hot.
Your whole head. It's not you don't have a fever, your head is hot.
The skull is hot.
That's... Hothead is that thing of like...
Remember the old Warner Brothers cartoons where they'd fade in a different image and it would be like...
it would sort of show you what the character was feeling.
Hothead is like a big red light bulb.
Yeah.
Where your head is like...
And you're right, it's like you feel like the Crimson Skull from Captain America.
You really do.
With a face on top.
You feel like a gammon on your head.
Yeah, hot, hot ham.
Hot glazed ham.
Yeah.
So that's my most uncool, cool thing, alcohol.
But it's also like a lot of alcohol is shit.
So that's the other thing that is romanticized
about alcoholics is that the fancier boos
that they're an alcoholic with.
So like good whiskey or single malt.
I think a lot of this is the age that we're getting to.
Because alcohol is now this pretty assumed aspect of our lives.
Whereas 10 years ago they still had a frisson to it, it was difficult to get,
you had to prove you were allowed to have it.
And now it is a crutch to avoid.
So I think a big factor of it is age
and how things change with age
and what is cool changes with age.
And the corollary, I can never remember the corollary.
Corollary?
No, corollary.
Yeah, I think it's corollary.
Corollary.
The corollary of this is my most cool, uncool thing is parents.
Oh. So of all the uncool things?
Yeah, parents is the classic one.
I feel like at our age now, and even like TV and especially online, social media, parents have become cool.
Yes.
Posting about your parents, talking about your parents.
That's true. And everyone tweeting, like, oh, screenshots of texts from my dad.
Yeah. And then crying, crying, crying, crying, laughing emojis, and people go aww.
Cry face, cry face, cry face. Angry face.
The TV shows I have parents on. Comedy shows shows have people casting their real parents
into shows like the fucking Izzy Zansari horse shit?
Oh, fucking hell.
Well, I mean, the number of...
Okay, here's the thing.
You're exactly right about this because everyone is like,
oh, you know...
You know Dario Brienne?
Yeah. Do you like him? Yeah.
Yeah, I guess. How would you like to see him go to Peru?
With his mom. Yeah, what? Why would what I mean? I said, I mean, I would not watch it. Would you?
Would you Philip go on a big travel show with one of your parents?
Or would you be able to sell that because I don't think I could I love my parents very much and I'm sort of like
I'm quite good friends with my parents. Right. But I don't think
it's like riff-a-clock. No. When we hang out. It isn't. We're not there going like hey, we're like finger
clicking at each other. My parents and I are neither so similar that we are on the
same wavelength nor so different that we butt heads. We're just in the
middle like most people.
Just hello.
Well, yeah.
And my dad's very quiet.
I'm not a big chatter.
So I don't know what the show would be.
I would love to watch a travelogue of you and Papa
Wang going around sites of genuine historical interest
with a sort of almost silent dignity.
It would just be my dad knocking on the walls, being impressed at the structural robustness.
Oh, very good.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Or really enjoying like, both of our fathers
have worked as engineers.
That's something we have in common.
And I think both of our fathers, if we went to like Cambodia,
would be less keen on some kind of, I don't know, mad party scene
and more keen on going to a temple and going, they really managed to route the stream. The
stream routed through the center of the temple. That's very impressive. To seal it.
My dad almost prefers the opposite. You know, dark tourists?
What?
Dark tourism is people who like go on holiday holiday to current war zones or old massacre grounds or areas run
by drug gangs.
It goes like-
We're really into goth tourism.
That's kind of it.
Tourism for goths.
My dad designed that for civil engineering.
So we'll go to a run-down country and he'll get so much pleasure from looking at shit roads. Look at these. What is possible? Terrible. He's just having such
a good time. I love the yeah, the formality of that disapproval as well. Like tongue clicking
and being like, I wonder what the local the local authority funding system is like.
I bet it's inefficient.
In Malaysia, tutting is very informal. Everyone tuts all the time.
But like, tutting, it's abstract, like a road is funny to me.
Like you'll hear you.
Like it's misbehaved, yeah.
But tutting is for yourself, isn't it?
I go, where you go...
Yeah, for me it's to give me time to think about what I want to say I I
So you give yourself your own personal countdown clock
To be like this is how many seconds I have left to think of something valuable to contribute with I
Yes, sorry, I tore your wedding dress
I needed to wipe my ass. Oh no, that was just the truth.
Oh, now I see you just told the truth really slowly.
Ah.
I see that's the problem.
But parents, but you're right about parents being cool now.
Yeah, I mean people post about their parents all the time.
But also people post about their parents, but also the people who we know who our parents are becoming cool,
because people also post about their zany goddamn children.
Funnily enough, I think that is still less cool than posting about parents.
Yes, no, that's true. It is cooler to be like,
Hey, my dad is 72 and he said, I don't know why no one will let insert incredibly woke thing here happen.
And I'm 72 and I was in a war.
They can't say the war because they're lying.
I think it's also about implying that you're so at ease with yourself and so confident
that you don't mind people knowing about your parents.
Yes.
And you're really open and with Twitter Twitter and Instagram and social media in general,
the more you just let everyone poke around in your guts with a magnifying glass, the more...
See, every aspect of my life is great.
See?
Not just myself, but my immediate family.
Even my interactions with my parents, which for some people are fraught and traumatic,
not for me.
They're tweetable.
Not just that, they're retweetable.
That's going to be a new family therapy thing in like five years.
Would you say the way you communicate with your father is retweetable?
No. It's not even tweetable.
How many likes would you say we get on Instagram if we assume you have say 10,000 followers
That kind of thing. Yeah, and people are gonna judge based on that and get really sad if they go
I wouldn't even send a screenshot of a funny thing
He said about a shelf that he put up in my apartment something like that
That has become very cool
What about you?
What's your most cool, least cool?
Your most uncool.
Your most, ugh, I've got to get this right.
Your coolest uncool thing and your most uncool cool thing.
I'm a big fan of doing things that are deliberately
sort of obtuse and hard to say.
Because it's funny to me to to have that kind of speed bumped communication
So my the least cool cool thing. Yeah, so of all the cool things that we all agree are cool
This is one of the least cool. Yeah, so cool, but
jazz
Yeah, I'm a jazz fan and I have to I guess I have to I like jazz. I have jazz albums. Yeah
I have jazz max guess I have to I like jazz. I have jazz albums. Yeah I have jazz max. I don't have
I smoke jazz cigarettes. I love jazz. Hey jazz apples. That's just a type of apple, right? I hope so. A jazz apple. Some kind of pornographic apple. Is that when they turn an apple into a bong?
Is that a jazz apple? No, I think a jazz apple is just a type of apple, isn't it?
Maybe you can make a flute, a little flute out of an apple, maybe.
A fruit flute?
A fruit flute.
Have a little toot, I'm a fruit flute.
See?
That's like scat.
That's like jazz.
That's pretty cool.
Have a little toot, I'm a fruit flute.
Yeah, so jazz is cool, but it's uncool.
Because it's to do with old people and suits.
But it's also the basis for all popular music,
or a vast amount of popular music.
Also, you have to try really hard at it.
And trying hard at things is generally uncool.
The result of trying hard at things is cool.
Do you think you have to try hard?
I feel like people have an idea that you
have to try harder at classical music, which is just uncool is cool. Do you think you have to try hard? I feel like people have an idea that you have to try harder at classical music, which is
just uncool and cool.
I suppose.
But then like, what's the movie?
Keep drumming or I'll punch you in the face.
There's a whiplash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's the thing in Europe.
That was the title.
In France, that was the translation.
That was the Filipino transit Tagalog version of the title.
Okay, right. So in movies like Keep Drumming, I'll Punch You in the Face,
that's why I think people now are realizing that jazz is really difficult.
Sitting and having to toot a metal horn with your mouth,
and if you don't make your mouth make the right shape, it sounds like a dying cow.
Yeah. Tooting is embarrassing. Tooting is notot, toot. Tooting is not cool.
Bad tooting.
So you've got to spend years learning an instrument.
It's hard to hide your effort when your cheeks are literally
red and like, I'm not really trying.
And you look like you're doing a really hard shit.
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What you can do with the guitar, you can close your fucking, you can go to pretend to be
asleep and play the guitar.
You can smoke.
Yeah.
You can literally be like, I'm at work and on my break at the same time.
That's how easy playing the guitar is for me.
Whereas yeah, if you're doing the Louis Armstrong cheeks.
Yeah.
You can't just be like, take it, Louis.
As you say, like, look, that guy say, look close to a hemorrhage.
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