Business Innovators Radio - 5 Tips for Choosing Your Chiropractor

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

In a sea of health care professionals, how do you find the right ones for you? What should you search for in a provider that will ensure that you receive the care you deserve? With so many choices, knowing what to look for – and what to avoid – can truly make a difference for your health.In this episode, Dr. Dan and Angela discuss their top 5 tips for choosing your chiropractor (or any other health professional). Tune in to hear what they value most and how you can put these tips into action next time you are searching for a new member of your health care team.To learn more about this and other hot health topics, follow us on social media and subscribe to our WTH podcast. If you have a specific health question or would like to find out if we can help you with a personal health challenge, check out our office page or contact us at 412-369-0400/ [e-mail] always, our mission is to help you Get Healthy and Stay Healthy for a Lifetime!What the Health?!https://businessinnovatorsradio.com/what-the-health/Source: https://businessinnovatorsradio.com/5-tips-for-choosing-your-chiropractor

Welcome to What the Health, where anything health is fair game as we tackle the trends and bust the myths about health and wellness. Here are your hosts, Dr. Dan and Angela Toro. And welcome to another episode of What the Health. I am, Dr. Dan, here with my co-host. Angela, welcome back, guys. We'll do our disclaimer even though this one. I don't know it really applies today, but as always, we're here for informational purposes, only not giving any individual. medical advice. Always talk to your trusted health care provider. But again, today's a little bit more. Well, we're going to talk about how to choose that health care provider. So, yeah, years ago, when I was

just starting practice, we created this document on how to choose five tips for choosing your chiropractor. Again, we kind of extended that to any health professional because we, you know, realized that it did kind of overlap, you know, the qualities, the values that we were looking at. So, So yeah, I just wanted to kind of review that. You know, these points are at the end of the book that we wrote, designed to heal. But just kind of talk about, because we have a lot of people, you know, outside our area that we can't put our hands on, that they don't travel to our office, but are still looking for good information and how to find that health professional, you know, for themselves. So we're just going to jump right into this in terms of what are we looking for, you know, in terms of choosing the best chiropractor in your area. So point number one that I think you do a great job of and we do as an office is that they listen.

Yeah. You know, I mean, we have so many people come in, right, that they just feel like they've never, they'd not been listened to, whether it's by their medical doctor or another chiropractor, physical therapist. It's like they've gone to all these different health professionals and no one has just really sat down to listen to their problem. Yeah, I think that's pretty common now, especially in the medical world, because again, you know, doctor schedules are packed. They just don't have the time. And again, we always talk about kind of just data, that checklist, you know, checklist of symptoms they go through, but don't really get to the, you know, the underlying route of what's going on. And a lot of that sometimes just comes from just letting people talk. And I know people will like, oh, sorry, you probably didn't need my whole life story.

And it's like, well, no. But if that man is, you know, sometimes, again, it does go back, you know, especially when we're talking about the spine. I mean, you know, things that happened, you know, years ago, decades ago, absolutely are relevant. So sometimes, yeah, we have to prod for those answers. Like, were you ever in any sports injuries or car accidents or, you know, ever have a bad, you know, fall as a child? Oh, yeah, my brother pushed me down the stuff. Or, you know, I fell on the trampoline and landed on my head. And it's amazing what people remember.

Like these pretty significant injuries. And it's like, okay, yeah, that makes sense of why I'm seeing that on the x-ray. But, yeah, I was listening to, you know, a clinical psychologist recently, and he's become a major, major podcaster. But he said in one of his, one of his podcasts that if you just listen to people long enough, let them talk long enough, they'll pretty much come to the correct conclusions. themselves of what is going on with them. They might not have a diagnostic name for it, but they'll be able figure it out, whether it's a mental emotional manifestation, physical manifestation, spiritual manifestation, or some combination, which that typically is what it is. So, yeah, really, does your health professional, does your chiropractor listen to you, you know, give you the time to talk? And they're,

they're truly trying to, you know, be curious and ask questions about what is going on. And really why you're there because, you know, at the end of the day, yeah, you might have an acre of pain. We talk about this all the time. You might have an acre of pain that's bothering you. But it's never the pain alone that that is, you know, that you're really trying to take care of. It's the fear of what are you not able to do or what are you in fear of possibly losing if this pain doesn't get resolved. So, you know, and again, a lot of times, you know, if you don't have a third party that can ask the right questions, the appropriate questions to really help you get to the bottom of that, it's hard to do that on your own because we are great at lying to ourselves.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. Yeah. I do think that, yeah, that listening part too is just, it's really the first step in making that, that connection as well. And, you know, it's just, yeah, it's just important to, that people feel comfortable enough to talk and it's very easy to know if someone's listening to you or not. So it's, yeah, you really want to make sure that you're not just talking and they're, you know, somebody's sitting there and yeah, they're typing stuff into a computer without actually, you know, having a conversation and listening and asking questions. Yeah. Yeah. So finding that curious health care provider, chiropractor that is listening to you is really point number one for

choosing, you know, your best, your best chiropractor. So, so, um, so then, And then, you know, once they listen, you know, we move on to point number two. And it's really about education. And we've built our entire practice around this. That's why we're doing. It's why we're doing this podcast. Yes. It's why we do what we do. You know, we want people.

And again, it's not that you have to be a PhD or get your doctor of chiropractic degree or, you know, get your master of science degree. Although we do have some patients that absolutely just dive in and love this stuff. But if you don't understand what why, behind, you know, what it is that we're trying to accomplish, you know, in chiropractic or, you know, any other intervention, then you really start to lose, you know, the value or it just becomes very superficial, becomes very monotonous. And that's how you can, you know, really fall off your care before getting things actually corrected. So the education process, I think, is important so that you know why you're there. Yeah. Because the other thing that, you know, we, we have found is that a lot of people, they may think that our office does one thing that, you know, they want to come in for a couple visits and just feel better, which we certainly help people do. But, you know, the long term, we want to help. I always tell people this, when we're doing our initial two visits, is that I want to become the advocate for your 20-year, 30-year future version of yourself. Where do you want to be?

again, that's hard for people to fathom, right? You know, we live in the now where a lot of people live in the past, but, you know, it's like, you know, what, I want to take care of this pain right now. But, okay, well, yes, we'll take care of that. But let's also look at some of these things and what patterns, you know, what poor habits are you doing in your life right now that if we don't take care of, it's like the Titanic right into the iceberg. It's like, you know, our office, we can see the ice.

The ice bird coming. We're trying to give you the warning saying, we're going to wear their body. They're body. We talk about this in the book. It's like the signals, the alarms, the pains. Those are the signals that something is going to happen or worse if you don't get it taken care of. Yeah, we see it as an irritation or inconvenience, but it's really the body screaming at us. Figure this out.

Get this taken care of. So the education process, and again, from a chiropractic perspective, you know, we really bring it back to the nervous system. Because, you know, for better or for worse, you know, most public opinion, and really it's my own profession's, you know, poor public education that we've gotten to this point. But public opinion is chiropractic is good for neck pain, back pain, maybe headaches, and, you know, a couple of ancillary things here and there. But it's like, so if you don't have a neck pain or back pain, that's why people always ask, like, well, wait, you see kids?

Why would you see kids? They don't have neck pain or back pain. Well, you're right. If I was only treating people for neck pain or back pain, I wouldn't see kids because you're right. Very few of them, you know, less than, you know, half a percent of them, maybe experience that. And it's after, you know, some sort of silly injury. But, you know, the fact of the matter is we are adjusting the spine. Well, the spine is intimately related to the nervous system.

What is the nervous system control? Everything. Absolutely everything in the body. It controls your breathing, your heart rate, your digestion, your liver, you know, your liver, you know, toxicity. detoxification, your kidney function, your immune system. We talk about this in many other podcasts. Your reproductive system. Yeah, I mean, everything is coordinated through your nervous system.

So when your spine is moving appropriately and it's structurally aligned, then that nervous system functions way more efficiently. So that's where we take the time to help people understand that. If at the end of all of that, you really don't care. and you just want to get out of pain, well, our office might not be the best fit, you know,

or, you know, maybe it's a fit for a very short period of time, but we always help people understand, like, look, you know, getting out of pain versus actually, you know, stabilizing,

strengthening, and gaining long-term, you know, improvement of the spine, you know, those are two very different conversations. Yeah. The short-term getting out of pain

versus the long-term structural correction. So, and I understand that a lot of people, hey, they just want to get out of pain. And we can help them do that to the best of our ability. But, hey, drink a bottle of Jack Daniel soon. You'll be out of pain for a short period of time. You'll be in a lot of pain in the next day.

But, you know, it's same thing with pain medication, right? It's like. That technically makes you not be in pain. It means you not be in pain. But, you know, again, the long-term side effects of taking pain medication, we know it's just not good for you. So it doesn't gain health. Yes.

And whatever's causing your pain is still there. It's not addressing. the actual issue at hands. Correct. So that's where that education process comes into play. And we're very up-prone with people right in our office. And I know many offices are. It's like the first and second visit, you know, we're really, we're trying to do,

you know, we're listening. We're trying to, you know, hear what's going on and help see if you, if your, you know, issue that you have going on is, in fact, you know, a problem that we can help with. And are you the type of person that wants to just resolve that problem? Or do you want to resolve that problem and work on strengthening? Do you want to solve that problem, work on strengthening, and get healthy and stay healthy for a lifetime? And that's what we're trying to help, you know, understand through listening and also help you make the best decision, you know, through that education process or first and second visit. I mean, it's a lot more intense.

And we tell people that up front. Like, you know, we're going to dive in. We want to make sure that, you know, we're the right fit, you know, and that. that we can actually help you through our process. So if we're talking about the spine and the nervous system, we have to have a way to analyze that, right? We have to have a way to assess that spine and nerve system function. So that's where point number three on these tips for choosing your best chiropractor

or health professional, you know, but specifically chiropractor if we have talking about in this conversation is we analyze. And so, and you've seen that, you know, since you started doing a lot of the, you know, just consultations and getting, you know, talking to people, you know, how often are they coming in and we hear these horror stories of like, you know, I've been to so many other chiropractors, been to so many other healthcare practitioners. And, you know, all they did was they just lay me down on the table and popped and cracked me. Yeah. Like, no results, no. And, yeah, and that's why a lot of people are often afraid of chiropractors because they envision that, like, those real crazy, you know,

you know, neck cracking. Yeah, especially nowadays with all the reels and the videos online. It's just like you get these individuals. And some of them I don't even know if they are chiropractors, but, you know, they're just popping and cracking. And of course, they put the little microphone right up next to this fire and the necks. And you're hearing massive amount of sounds. And it's like, well, what was the analysis done before or after that? How do you know that that was the area that needed to be adjusted?

And I tell people this all the time. It's like I can teach a monkey how to, you know, how to make some noise and pop a joint. You know, my kids can, you know, my oldest son now, he can pick me up. And, you know, my back might make a noise because it, you know, it pops or rib pops or something. But, you know, was that the right area at the right time and actually making a neurological change? Because that's the thing. It's just like with pain medication, you know. medication is designed to stimulate or suppress the, you know, the nervous, the functions of the body.

Well, you know, an adjustment could just stimulate. You can manipulate the spine and stimulate like, hey, some pain suppression. But, you know, it might not last. Yeah. I mean, we had that woman come in the other day. And, I mean, raving review that she put on Google. She'd been to seven other chiropractors. This was over a seven-year period, seven other chiropractors, two pain clinics, had multiple injections, surgeries on her knees.

And one adjustment in our office because, you know, it was so blatantly obvious. I mean, even you saw the rotation in her pelvis. So it was so blatantly obvious the rotation in her pelvis. I laid her down on the table, adjusted, and she gets up off the table. She was 90% better by the next day. She slept and has done nothing but continued to improve. She played basketball the other day. And she hadn't done that in years.

But for her to do that after one adjustment, the power of that comes in the analysis. So you have to have a chiropractor that's actually looking at x-rays and knows how to analyze them. Because, again, chiropractors are trained to look for pathology. But again, we're trained to look for it in the way of that's a medical problem. you should go see your medical doctor. Again, the really, really good ones could diagnose it. But again, we're trained enough to look for red flags and send you off for pathology. But in the same way that we're very lightly, you know, trained to identify pathology

and make sure that it is in fact a chiropractic problem versus a medical problem. And we can refer, medical doctors are very poorly trained. And actually, unfortunately, a lot of chiropractors are very poorly trained in. how to analyze an x-ray for the biomechanical motion and structural position of the spine. And not just, you know, what is ideal, but also what to do if it is in fact rotated. Yeah. You know, how do you know which direction to adjust in, you know, for which rotation or malposition? Yeah.

I mean, I know that's like what you guys have those seminars several times a year where, you know, again, it continue to go over. this and learn and, you know, get better at analyzing and seeing the things. And, and I mean, I know just from, you know, doing the x-rays and I, you know, I don't know all, you know, necessarily all the terms, but I could definitely tell my, oh, yeah, that's, that's jacked up. That's not that. That's not we're supposed to look. We're still working on a bedside manner. Yeah, we're not always so. Ooh, that's not good. Yeah, the digital x-rays are nice, but sometimes they. But we have fun with that, you know, that's not one of our points, but that should be another point.

That should be. That should be. That would be a bonus one. You should have fun. But yeah, the analysis and the, you know, the x-ray and then the motion x-ray adds a whole other layer to that because I've had people that have a very beautiful neck curve that you should have. But then as soon as you go to move your head forward or backward or side to side, it doesn't move. And if your neck isn't moving, then again, you're not going to generate the appropriate neurological response to, you know, have good, healthy messaging throughout your whole system. So the analysis is very important. And not just then on the actual structural and biomechanical side, but then also on the nerve functioning side. So are there some ways that you're looking at nerve function? You know, again, you can palpate and feel for areas of swelling. A lot of times if someone is very, very sensitive and you hit a spot, they'll flinch or their jump.

So, you know, that's a neurological response that can say like, hey, something's going on with this area. We specifically use infrared thermal imaging because temperature we're looking. It's basically a high profile temperature picture, just like what you would use for, you know, a kiddo to take the temperature across the forehead, you know, and you get their temperature. You know, we're looking at, we're looking at it much more detail than that. But, you know, we're looking at the skin over the spine. And that skin is innervated, you know, by the nervous system and controlled by the nervous system by the opening and closing a blood vessel. So we're looking at temperature patterns and how that's changing. And so, you know, we're constantly, and we do that on every visit, right?

So we're constantly looking at how is the body adapting and changing visit to visit? Because if we're giving the same adjustment, if you're doing, if you're going to someone and they're doing the same thing every time you go in, well, your body is not changing. You're not in a state of adaptation. You're actually in a state of rigidness where you're maladaptive. If you're not adapting, and if you're not adapting, if you're doing the exact same thing every time you come in, well, that's like, you know, to me, that's, you know, kind of like popping a medication every day for the rest of your life. Like, you know, medication has a time and a place and, you know, I think it should have, you know, I think medication works best in the short term, right? Yeah. To get over a specific health challenge or get it under control long enough to allow your body to heal itself,

which is what it's designed to do. But, you know, this idea that you're going to go in and do the same adjustment twice a week or once a week for the rest of your life, like, if that's what you're doing, like, I don't think that's putting your body in a very good adaptive state. Yeah. So, you know, but again, if you don't have the analysis, like, it's easy to lay someone down and, you know, click pop crack. And, you know, hey, you're on your way.

Yep. But are you actually, you know, listening and trying to, you know, listening and analyzing and show that you are getting the results, which is point number four. I was waiting for you to just go right into it. So are you getting the results? And again, going back to the point number one about listening, this is not just about getting results of getting you out of pain, right? We always say, I've got four things, four goals for my patients that they walk in.

Number one, I want them to feel better. Number two talks about prevention. I want to prevent the current problem from getting worse. I want to prevent other problems that could be related to nervous system stress that could show up down the road. I want to prevent those from happening. Number three is I want to reverse the effects of the aging process. And that's where I talk about, look, I've got some people who come in in their 30s, right? And they feel like they're in their 40s or 50s, you know, or 90s.

So it's not that we can reverse your actual age, but, you know, we have a lot of people who start to change their lifestyle. They start to get adjusted and get their nervous system under control. And so now, you know, a year or two down the road, they actually feel a decade younger rather than a decade older. So that's the idea of reversing effects of the aging process. And then ultimately all three of those lead to point number four is we want you to live your best quality of life. Yeah. And that's what it comes down to. You know, quality of life is way more important than quantity of life, in my opinion.

But if you have a great quality of life, it's great to live a great quantity of life. But no one wants to live more quantity if they have crappy quality. Yeah, they can't do the things they want to do. Yeah. So being able to get results is not just about getting you out of pain, but we can actually show changes because we're analyzing and we're analyzing regularly. Then we can actually show the before and after changes of structural correction. And you see this in the office?

How often do I say, I see a rotation on a pelvis or a lumbar and I say, I'm going to take them out and adjust up for a post. Set up for the post and you go and you do the post and then we're seeing a 20, 30, 50% change in that structural alignment after that one adjustment. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to maintain because muscles, tendons, ligaments have all developed attention around this alignment. However, because we continue to analyze, then we can continue to monitor how the body is strengthening and a lot. adapting over time. Yeah, and the same thing with the thermal scan. I mean, we always do that before every adjustment, but then off.

Like if somebody comes in with, you know, a kind of crazy, crazy scan, you know, we'll do it again after the adjustment to, again, make sure that whatever it cleared out. Yeah, we're seeing immediate neurological change. That's something. So the adjustment we just did made an actual change in the body. And then again, we do it on the next visit to see, is it, you know, is the old one, is the poor? Yeah.

is the poor nerve function coming back or are they continuing their state of adaptation? And then again, that's what I ask patients all the time this. If I do a thermal scan, which is measuring nerve function, and I do, and I adjust you, and that nervous system changes. And now you come in a couple days later and that thermal scan looks completely different from what it was a couple days ago. Does it make any sense for me to do the exact same adjustment I just did? 100% of the time they're like, no.

Yeah. Because your body is in a state of adaptation. So I better be doing something different to facilitate that adaptation because if I don't, then I could send you right back into your maladaptive, your poor adaptive state. And again, if you're not analyzing that, then it's hard to get those results. B.J. Palmer, the developer of chiropractic, was asked, what do you attribute your success? And he simply responded, results.

Again, it's not just the fact that, you know, people are symptomatically changing, which that's always good, you know. Yes. One of the hardest conversations is when I'm seeing objective changes. Yeah. I'm seeing changes on the X-ray. I'm seeing changes on thermal scans, but they are not symptomatically feeling better. But that's why, you know, part of the big reason I hired you because I know that there are other factors,

you know, once we get the nervous system functioning better or to help facilitate improvement a nerve function, you know, they need to be, you know, maybe making some habit changes and what they're eating, you know. And we've developed the whole program around, you know, helping to, you know, understand sugars in your foods and how to change that and what type of exercise for, you know, different conditions and how to, how to do the exercises, right? Because, I mean, how much time you spend with people just doing exercises appropriately? That's, I mean, correct, like, everyone thinks that they do, like, that they're working their core, but the percentage of people that are actually doing core exercises correctly is so, yeah, and it's like a suit, and I love, because you

can see on that, I'm like, as soon as it clicks with someone, they're like, oh, I'm like, that's what it's supposed to feel like to engage your core. Yeah. That's what you're doing. I can sit there and, you know, do crunches all day long. If I'm not actually activating my core, it's not, it's not really doing anything. It's very superficial. So that's where, again, that getting people to really understand, you know, same thing with like, you know, we talk, we had that whole podcast on FBS, flat blood syndrome. We so have a lot of people who have me work with with glute activation.

And so people think, you know, they start doing leg kickbacks. And they're like, yeah, this is, I'm like, do you actually feel your glute engaged? Yes, because they're just kind of using. Yeah, they're using all the accessory muscles and they're not actually activated. And you can see it. When someone lays down on the table, their ass is completely flat. And it's like, we got to activate this a little bit. We got to get, you know, again, we don't have to get the, you know, the booty of Beyonce.

Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, some woman, some women wouldn't mind that. But still, it's like, you know, we got to activate your glutes appropriately. And that's all muscles. Because whether you're stretching or activating the muscle, you should be able to feel it a certain way. And that's where you can't get that from a video, right? We have a lot of videos that we use and we send to people, but you meet with people. And this goes back to the, you know, again, the listening and the educating and the analyzing.

Yeah, because you're actually, you're actually going through like, do you feel it here? No, no, no. Oh, I can see it on their face if they're doing this correctly. And it's incredible because by doing that, it just amplifies the results that much more. And especially the symptomatic results, you know, because again, it's like the body can get stuck and it can get stuck in this hard wiring of like, okay, I've been in pain so long. My muscles and ligaments, tendons, they're just set to a certain tension. And I can clear them out with the adjusting.

But then until you get in there and do some of the targeted stretching, it's like, oh my gosh, it's a night and day difference. And then again, then they feel more empowered that they have control over their health and well-being. So they don't feel like they have to come into their chiropractor once a week for the rest of their life. Yeah. I think that's ludicrous.

I think that some people. may need that depending on their lifestyle, you know, especially those who go in the gym every weekend. I'm going to say, I need my... And get hit in the face. And I get hit in the face. Kicked in the ribs. I need my weekly adjustments. There are certain athletes and certain lifestyles.

If Mike just stopped kicking me in the ribs, Michael. There are certain people. There's certain lifestyles and, you know, athletics specifically, especially high impact athletics that may need that check and adjustment. But the average person should be able to. to go longer periods. Yes. The average healthy, let's put it that way. I shouldn't say the average person, but the, that's also another podcast. Yes, yes. Yeah, the, do you want to be the average American? Yes. A healthy individual should be able to go, you know, much, much longer.

Yeah, to be able to facilitate, yeah, facilitate your healing, your adjustment, your alignment. And again, that's where the analysis comes into play. Because, you know, know, if someone comes in and their, you know, their scans are looking really good. They're feeling really good. Then it doesn't make sense to go in there and start, you know, manipulating things. Like, you know, you better lay off. Yeah, well, especially with kids, there's plenty of times you'll scan them. No, no, no adjustment.

You look good. And, yeah, my mentor, you know, Dr. Jimmy, I mean, he hammers that into our heads. It's like, be the lazy chiropractor. Because, again, it's like, if, and this was something that Dr. Pierce, you know, for those of you who don't know, practice the Pierce Result System. And Dr. Pierce was famous for asking the question, what's the difference between a car accident where a 6,000-pound car comes to a complete stop and a 15-pound head gets whipped? What's the difference between that impact and a 185-pound chiropractor banging on the exact same bone

in the exact same direction for three times a week, two-time. a week one time a week for years on end. What's the difference? And his point was, if we talk about the intelligence of the body and the intimate connection between the spine and the nervous system, then we better have the humility to say that we could F it up if you're not, if you're not analyzing appropriately. And he was adamant about that. And again, that is where sometimes it is just better to lay off or go and recheck something before you start, you know, manipulating, putting your hands on people. And again, I use it, you know, I'm using the term manipulation in a very different context than the adjustment because I think the adjustment is very,

should be held in very, very high regard. Again, Dr. Pierce used to compare, you know, the adjustment with neurosurgery. Like, if you believe that you can, you know, do an adjustment, get the spine moving and aligned better and you are going to change nerve system function, that's like going and doing neurosurgery. So you better be doing it at the right time, at the right location, in the right direction, and you better have a way of measuring it. And if you did it wrong, you better go back and be able to correct it. So again, that is, that's the results portion of being able to pre-post scan day in and day out

and show people that there's objective changes in their body. And again, the grand slam is, you know, if they're getting the objective changes and then that matches, hey, my symptoms are massively improving. Oh, and by the way, you know, the side benefits we can talk about. I'm sleeping better. I'm more energy. Sleeping better. I'm making better choices.

You know, I have better mental clarity. I'm making better relational connections. And we see all that. Oh, yeah. We see it day in and day out. We're just talking about this. We literally walk. people's personalities change and people open up and just yeah kind of even like just look and feel

lighter and walking in the door it's just yeah it's a massive yeah massive change for people especially people that have been in chronic pain because that absolutely affects your mood i mean i dealt with that for i mean i walked around for six years dealing with chronic back pain i mean it makes you know he's been waiting waiting for an opportunity to say that almost me that's me a sound like. And I think I've used my quote of Yeah, I was going to say, I think that's,

and that was, I think that was just as a brother, not as a healthcare profession. You're welcome. That's where the disclaimer comes to the play. But work for your brother, they say. It would be fun. No, we do it, but.

Well, hopefully you can tell that we are also very passionate about this, just based on the conversation. And, you know, again, Angela walked in. She wasn't in the best mood today. I wasn't. And honestly, just, yeah, just, again, talking a little bit about, we, before we started recording, we were kind of talking about, you know, short-term and long-term

visions for the office. And just, yeah, again, have that did. It just, it reminds, you know, it's a good reminder of, okay, yes, this is, yes, this is, this is our, this is our purpose. I mean, you guys joked since I was in undergrad that, you know, oh, you're going to go, you're going to go more the rest. I'm not like, yeah, right online. Like, never, never, never. And then.

Aaron, you know. Yeah. And yeah. And it just, it all aligned. It all aligned. It did. It all aligned. And I think the one, the one, so people are like, well, how do you measure passion? And again, I think innately most people know.

Like, so many people walk into our office. And they're like, I just feel better sitting in here. Like, it's just a family, friendly, like, you know, it's just, you got a good vibe. Yeah. You just feel, you know, you just feel. You can feel energy. Yeah, you can feel the energy just sitting in the office. It's a place of healing.

It's a place of fun. It's a place of, you know, welcoming. Yeah, welcoming and just, you know, kind-hearted individuals that were just trying to help people get healthy and stay healthy. And we're just, we're so passionate about it. And again, like you said, you know. I don't think either of us had the energy doing this in the morning. We were like ready to go. But it's like as soon as we start, it's like, boom, it just kind of spilling out.

And I remember listening to another, you know, mentor of mine on a podcast years ago. And he said, you can always tell the energy of an office. Like if you start with a certain number of individuals on your schedule, if that number stays about the same throughout the day, you know, you're doing, you're pretty level-headed. You're doing pretty well. if that number starts to dip and, you know, people start calling in, canceling, you know, missed appointments happen. Your energy's off. Oh, yeah.

You need to, your mindset. You better get your mindset, right. In the same respect, I mean, we're rocking yesterday. We had, like, you know, a certain number. It's like, it increased, like, 15% as the day went on. I'm like, where are all these people coming from? I was like, they just get walking in the door. I'm like, all right, come on.

So, you know, you can feel, you know, as an individual, you can feel. You can feel those vibes. You can feel when someone's passionate about what they do. And again, if you're, if you ever want in any healthcare professionals office and you don't get the vibe that they have passion or they're, you know, again, they're just, you know, kind of going through the motions. And, you know, but they're, you know, there are corpse. It's like, well, get out of there. If you, you know, this is your health. We say that all the time.

You need to be the best health advocate for yourself. So it's like if you're in an office and you just don't feel, I still don't understand that. People talk about their primary care provider. Yeah. They just, they don't like or they don't listen to. It's like, why are you even going to them? Yeah. It's like, you know, they're just, you get into these patterns.

Yeah. And we're habit-based beings, right? We're routine animals, routine individuals. So it's like, you know, we get into these habits and we just keep doing it and we don't ask questions about it because we don't want to change. And it's like, changes one of the necessary things that will always happen. So yeah, you know. Get a sense of, you know, is your health, is your chiropractor, is your health professional?

Do they have passion? And again, you'll know that based on, you know, how you feel in their presence. Is your energy higher or lower after you talk to them? Yeah. It's a pretty good indication. So, and then we have fun. We're going to add that one. I think we're definitely going to add that.

Yeah. So if you're not having fun, if you're not laughing. What's the point? What's the point? Honestly, yeah, we have a good time. We do have a good time. So, but as always, and again, I think we do this for the education, we do this to have fun, but we also, you know, if you have any questions or if any of this resonated with you,

or you are not in the, you know, southwestern Pennsylvania region, like in the greater Pittsburgh region, and you're looking for someone who could help you, whether it's a chiropractor or other health professional, we have, we continue to grow our network of individuals, you know, health practitioners, across the nation, that, you know, if you're just looking for help finding that person, you know, reach out to us and we'll see if we can help you. And or we'll do everything we can to help you find that person in your area. So, but yeah, that's the five plus one tips for choosing your chiropractor or other health professional.

And hopefully that was helpful. And we'll see you at the next one. Yes. We'll see you next time. Have the good one, guys. You've been listening to What the Health with Dr. Dan and Angela Toro, brought to you by Toro family chiropractic. To learn more about the resources mentioned on today's show or listen to past episodes, visit www.org.com.