Business Innovators Radio - Dr. Matthew Zerebny at Inland Empire Laser Pain Center Ready to Help You Ditch the Drugs and Skip the Scalpe

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Today, we’re excited to introduce you to a true innovator in the field of natural pain relief and holistic healing—Dr. Matthew Zerebny, better known as Dr. Matt Z. is the founder of Inland Empire Laser Pain Center in Hemet, California. Dr. Z has developed a proprietary “gentle & painless” laser solution that helps people ditch the drugs and skip the scalpel.If you’ve been struggling with chronic pain, inflammation, or mobility issues—and have been told there’s nothing else that can be done—this conversation could change your life. Dr. Z specializes in getting to the root cause of pain instead of masking symptoms. His unique approach combines cutting-edge Class IV laser therapy with Bio-Stacking techniques—powerful, natural energy therapies designed to boost your body’s ability to heal itself.With six certifications beyond his Doctor of Chiropractic degree, and a background in strength and conditioning from UCLA, Dr. Matt Z brings a wealth of experience, passion, and personalized care to every patient he serves.If you’re ready to recover, reclaim your vitality, and live pain-free without surgery or side effects, this episode is for you.About Dr. Matthew Zerebny, D.CAt Zerebny Chiropractic Clinics we use Bio Stacking techniques to give our patients as many advantages as possible to optimize their health and chronic pain conditions. Bio-stacking technique is a wellness technique that combines multiple natural energies to improve physical, mental, and emotional health. It can also refer to combining biohacking techniques for maximum benefit.“I look forward to assisting you on your journey towards a life filled with higher levels of health and vitality!”Dr. Zerebny loves combining state of the art cutting edge therapies with holistic care to promote long-term healing,health and vitality for his Patients.With 6 certifications above his Doctor of Chiropractic degree, he has many tools in his toolbox to be able to create effective therapeutic programs specifically for his Patients for Chronic Pain Relief and Optimizing their bodies ability to heal.Dr. Zerebny was originally a Strength and Conditioning Specialist before he became a Doctor of Chiropractic and had his undergraduate training in Premed at UCLA.He loves working with Patients who have been told “there is a nothing else we can do for you” because he understands that quality of life is such a priceless and precious thing for everyone, especially for those who are looking for help.D.C. – Doctor of ChiropracticCSCS – Certified Strength and Conditioning SpecialistCCST – Certified Chiropractic Spinal TraumaCWS – Certified Wellness SpecialistDACW – Diplomat American College of WellnessCOMS – Certified Obesity Management SpecialistCCWFN – Certified Clinician Whole Foods NutritionCWI – Certified Wellness InstructorInland Empire Laser Pain Center provides a proprietary “gentle & painless“ Laser solution to your debilitating injuries. We can help your body to reduce the agonizing inflammation, swelling, and pain while speeding the repair and healing process. Let’s help you recover and enjoy your active and pain-free life again! Contact us to find out how to avoid the knife and reduce or eliminate the drugs! Let’s get to the root cause versus masking your symptoms.Address901 S State Street Suite 500 Hemet California [e-mail] 9 am-6 pmWednesday 9am-6 pmFriday 9am-6 pmThe Optimal Health Showhttps://businessinnovatorsradio.com/optimal-health-show/Source: https://businessinnovatorsradio.com/dr-matthew-zerebny-at-inland-empire-laser-pain-center-ready-to-help-you-ditch-the-drugs-and-skip-the-scalpel

It's time to put your health in your own hands. Get ready to learn from today's top health and wellness innovators and thought leaders on optimal health radio. Now, here's your host. Hi, everyone. This is Dr. Tammy Patzer, and this is Optimal Health Radio. And today, we are joined by Dr. Matthew Zerebony. And he is a doctor of chiropractic with a wealth of experience in strength and conditioning and holistic healing. He combines advanced therapeutic techniques with natural healing methods

to help patients live pain-free and thrive in life. Today, we're going to be talking about a very powerful treatment, Class 4 laser therapy, and this is an innovative and revolutionizing pain relief and tissue repair system. So let's go ahead and dive right in. about how it can reduce pain and accelerate healing. Welcome. Hi, Tammy. Thank you. So class four laser therapy is, I guess, state of the art,

and it's been proven over and over again by the FDA. So let's talk a little bit about how does it help a person's body rejuvenate and heal. Great question. So with the body, you know, our bodies are wonderfully designed. They're spectacular in terms of their function and ability to heal and repair. But it basically all comes down to two things. You need the right nutrition and you need energy. So you need energy in your body for it to heal and repair. Our bodies are electrical. So like with babies, when they're little, they have a really high microvolt charge in their cells, which allows them to heal and repair very quickly. So So with the body, as we get older, we have a tendency to lose that energy in the tissue.

So the cells in the body have little batteries, which are called mitochondria. So one normal cell in the body has about 700 batteries. A brain cell has 10,000 batteries. So these batteries need energy to be able to do what they're designed to do. So I jokingly say to patients, if you had unlimited energy, what could you get done at your house and they i could clean out the attic i could plan a garden i could clean the closets so you need energy for your body to heal and repair so it's interesting like with a newt i think that's either i don't know if it's a lizard or a frog if its arm falls off it grows back with with a lizard if the tail

falls off it grows back so they thought well why doesn't that happen with a frog so they took the frog's arm off which was not very nice for the frog And then they put energy into the tissue and the arm grew back. So, you know, energy medicine, energy therapeutics, I should say, is state of the art because it's putting energy back into the tissue. And that's what Class 4 laser does is it drives energy into the tissue in a massive amount. So the normal healing mechanism in the body, energy flows from the brain down the spinal cord along the nerves to all the organs and cells and tissues. So imagine that being like a little stream of energy. If the spine gets stiff or it gets locked up, then it blocks that energy.

So now you get a drip, drip, drip of energy. Well, one of the reasons what I do as a chiropractor works so well is I'm opening up that natural energy pathway. But let's say we bypass that and we take a fire hose of energy and we put it right on the tissue. That's what the laser does. It bypasses all those other mechanisms and it just drives a massive amount of energy into the tissue. So Class 4 laser, they use that with professional athletes. They use it with racehorses. They use it, anything that's competitive and alive,

they use it to drive energy into the tissue. So the laser technology, and nowadays it's state of the art because of the pulse frequency, and they know the wavelength. It's like Star Trek stuff. I've never seen anything like it. I've been in practice for 30 years. It's a game changer.

It takes difficult cases, and it helps to get them unstuck to move them in directions that, to be honest, I've never seen before. So it's quite spectacular. It's very interesting. It's very exciting. It does sound really exciting. So what types of conditions would class four laser be good for?

It would basically be great. I mean, what tissues in the body wouldn't benefit with more energy? They would all benefit with more energy. So I can't think of one condition. that wouldn't benefit from it. You know, obviously you don't want to do it over areas where there's cancer or anything else, but everything else. It just, it tops off the battery.

So, you know, imagine having a dimmer switch on the batteries and the energy that goes to an organ or cells and tissues. This is just, you know, topping it off. It's just driving that energy level up so that you've got full charge of energy for all the different organs and cells. So I can't think of anything that wouldn't benefit. So in your practice, what types of patients do you typically see? What are some of the real common things that people come in for that you can treat with this? Well, we have a lot of chronic pain and neuropathy. I live in an area where it's primarily a senior citizen community.

So statistically, one out of three people in our country has chronic pain, one out of three. So that means if there's 360, million people, there's 120 million people who have chronic pain, who don't want to have chronic pain. So I get a lot of musculoskeletal types of conditions that come in. But I'm also a strength and conditioning specialist. I'm a clinical nutritionist. I'm a certified obesity management specialist. And I'm working on a certification in brain health through Dr. Daniel Amin's clinic. And he's the top brain guy on the planet. And, you know, it applies to all those areas. So I can't think of anything it wouldn't be it wouldn't help. So would you say it's so interesting because you're talking you talked about nutrition.

Now you talked about the brain help and the different class four laser treats different things. How does it work? Like I know one of the big things is to skip the drugs or or did the drugs skip the scalpel? And how does that class four, if somebody, do they ever come in and are they able to actually skip the drugs and skip the scalpel? You know, that's a great question. People come into my practice in different phases of disease process. Some of them, it's just starting. So it's interesting.

Women live longer than men on average of about seven to ten years. Do you know why that is, Tammy? No. Women are very proactive. They go to get their physicals on a regular basis, and if they have a problem, if this is when you first start to have a problem, and this is when it's too late, women know about it here. Men, we're not as bright. We kind of go till you blow. So with the body, you want to be able to catch things sooner, and then you have a better recovery.

So ask me your question again. I was just curious about if, you know, people that we have a serious opioid crisis with people getting addicted to drugs. We have many people who are told that their only option is for surgery. For example, I have what I guess would be called a frozen shoulder. And my physical therapist was saying, well, I don't think you're really getting. getting any better and I still have some pain. And she says, well, you probably should go talk to somebody about getting surgery. Right. And of course, I know that maybe I don't need to talk to someone about getting surgery. Maybe what I really need is to do some class court laser therapy.

So I'm curious about if any of your patients had experienced that where they say, well, let me try this, the laser therapy, and what type of pain relief do they get and how fast do they get it? Yeah, that's a great question. So to answer your question, you know, the key is as you try to be a trusted advisor to the patient when they come in, you always want to do what's in the best interest of the patient, irregardless of what tools that I have. So some patients come in when they first start to have issues, some are midstream, some they're so far along. that they need surgery. So for me, I herniated the C-4-5 disc in my neck. When I herniated, I was in a car accident, it broke a bone in my neck back in the 80s. And then I've seen 150,000 patient visits

times 60 adjustments for patient. I've done like 5 million adjustments. The worst disc bulge I've ever seen since I've been in practice was mine. When my disc bulge it gave way, I couldn't use my left arm for a year. So for me, I had to have a neurosurgeon go in there and put it back together and he was spectacular. The neurosurgeon that I went to, he was from Cedar Sinai and Longa Linda. So to answer your question, you want to be very

precise in knowing where the patient is in terms of what conditions they have. So sometimes they're so far along the only thing that they can do is surgery. But short of that, you know, I've had two patients. Both of them had to have chronic knee problems.

They were both in really bad pain. One guy was a contractor. and they both said, I don't want to have to have surgery. I'm looking for some alternatives. And we did laser therapy on both of them. It took some time, but they were like 80% better. So with the laser, not only does it drive inflammation and pain down, but it helps with mitosis, it helps to create new healthy tissue.

So with both of these gentlemen, they're like 60, 70, 80% better. Did it make the joint perfect? No, they still have a lot of the underlying issues, but it made what's left function better. So to answer your question, I see that all the time. Stuff that I would have normally gone, you know what, I don't really know what else I can do to help you. And I'm very aggressive.

I'm the type where if somebody has a condition and everybody else goes, good luck, I don't know what to do. I'm always the one that goes, now we've got to figure something out. You know, this is the quality of the rest of their life that's at stake. So for me, I don't hesitate to jump in and, okay, whether it's nutrition or detoxification or conditioning or, you know, we do what's called biostacking. So we use different energy therapies to drive energy into the tissue. And then we use standard process, which is spectacular, best nutritional stuff on the planet.

But yeah, you start to add energy back into the equation using the class four laser. It's a game changer. It's just over time, it drives more energy. The cells in the body are constantly dying and replacing. So when the cells die off and they replace with new healthy cells, if these healthy cells are like super vibrant, have all this energy, whatever they're designed to do,

they're going to make better bone or better more hormones or better cartilage. So, yeah, we get the spectrum, and you always want to point the patients in the right direction. If they need surgery and it's, you know what, it's a clear, send them for surgery, send them to the best guy. A lot of times I'll send them to my neurosurgeon, Dr. Gosting. He was spectacular.

But with the laser, it's a complete game changer because now just driving the energy in, you know, God didn't make junk. Our bodies are brilliantly smart. They're designed to heal and repair. If you cut yourself, you don't go, maybe it forgot this time. No, your body knows how to do that. It just needs the right energy and it needs nutrition. So like I said, I'm blown away with the results that we're getting.

It's spectacular. It's so interesting to me when you talk about energy a lot and then, of course, the right nutrition. So if somebody is considering Class 4 laser therapy, what do they need to consider and how would they get started? Best thing would be set up a consultation. You know, come in for a consultation where we can sit down. for me, I'm always asking the patient, you know, what's your goal? The obvious one is I don't want to hurt, but with some people, I have a patient that I asked her, I said, you know, what's your goal?

And she thought for a minute, she goes, you know, I'd really like to go back to England. I'd really like to make a trip and maybe even go live in England. But I got to get this fix. So I'm always asking, you know, what's the goal? What are you trying to accomplish? So that way we can have a good idea, you know, the pain, you know, my training is, and doctor chiropractic and nutrition and all these other things. But my real business is giving people their lives back again.

You know, time is short. Time is so short, we never get it back. And life is so fragile. So being able to give people quality of the rest of their lives is it gives me joy going to work every day, knowing that I'm changing people's lives. And, you know, God gets the credit, but our bodies are designed to heal. They want to heal. It's just they're going just, you know, it usually comes down to two things.

You're missing something or something's hindering your body. If we can figure those two things out, then we can move them in the right direction. So the first step would be, you know, come in for a consultation, let's sit down, let me find out, you know, what's important for you to fix? What do you want your life to look like in the next three years? And Einstein said, he said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again. but expecting a different result. So sometimes you just got to do something different. POSPOR laser, so in your opinion, you've called it a game changer.

And you also have the chiropractic and you have all of the background in nutrition and you're working on the certification with Dr. Amon for the brain. So you obviously have this complete practice of when you talk to your patients. Where in all of this do you see the Class 4 laser in enhancing what you're already doing with these people? Well, you know, it just speeds the healing process. So there's been thousands of studies done with laser, how it just enhances the body's ability to heal and repair. Decrease inflame. You know, the big issue today, in my opinion, it's not high cholesterol.

The big issue today is inflammation in the body. So if you can drive inflammation down, it gives the body a chance for it to heal and repair. Inflammation is a huge driver of autoimmune disease. So by getting these things handled, it gives the body the energy to get out. and repair and on a level, like I said, it's almost, and it's kind of funny. It's almost like when you were young, how vibrant and energetic the body was. It's like you're putting that back into those areas so that it's kind of got the ability to heal like it was designed to in the first place.

That's really interesting to me. So how do people reach out to you to get that consultation? So they can call our office. They can go on our website and call our office. And then the ladies will get you set up for a time that's good that works for your schedule. And then we'll sit down and we'll have a discussion. So we're thrilled to help. And like I said, for me, you know, it's exciting for me to have people who are kind of given up and they go, you know what?

And I have patients tell me this lot. You know, you're kind of my last hope. but I love working with people who want to make changes in their life and get their health back again. Because like I said, time is short. We want to enjoy every moment with our kids and our grandkids. And we don't get that time back. So that would be the best thing. They can just give our office a call.

951-652-2752 is our office number. Okay, great. So before I let you go, is there anything else you'd like to add? Um, you know, I just, I just want, I want people just to be able to know that there's other things that don't give up. Don't give up. There's things that you can do. Just, you know, keep reaching out until you find somebody who's willing to go. You know what? I'm happy to join you on this journey. Let me, let me, let me help you, you know, let me go arm and arm on this journey and move you in the right. direction. And with some patients, you know, they need to get their nutrition right and they need to get their health right. And the more of those variables that you can control, you know, it all comes down to the things that we heard when we were kids, you know, eat your fruits and vegetables. If you don't use it, you lose it. And as people get older, they become less active. And one of the best predictors of mortality as we get older is muscle density. So you want to stay active. You want to be. You want to be. You active and keep your muscle strong and keep your body flexible. And I just want people to be encouraged.

Your body's got the capacity to heal and repair. You know, obviously there's conditions that are so far along that you can only do so much. But I jokingly say to patients, you know, what could you get done at your house if you had more energy? If you had unlimited energy, what could you get done? So, you know, I'm just, we're just thrilled to do whatever we can to help move people in a good direction. Well, thank you so much. So everyone, we've been talking with Dr. Matthew Zerebni on Optimal Health Radio, and we really appreciate the time. And everyone, take it to heart. What could you get done if you had more energy? This is Dr. Tammy Pitzer, and this is brought to you by Relief Now Laser Methods. Thank you.

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